1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Y'all, welcome back to Zone seven's special edition of the 2 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: one hundred Olympic Games. Y'all, Richard Jewel, security guard for 3 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: the Olympics, spotted a suspicious backpack under a bench in 4 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: Olympic Park. It was approximately one ten am. Richard acted quickly, y'all. 5 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: He went and grabbed a GBI agent said look what 6 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: I see. This doesn't look right. The two of them 7 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: started moving people away from the backpack and further from 8 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: that area. Ten minutes later, a pipe bomb detonated in 9 00:00:51,560 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: Centennial Park. Richard Jewel saved lives period. His action and 10 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: his alone were heroic. Tonight, we are joined by Dana Jewel. 11 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: She and Richard were married. We are going to get 12 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: to talk to her and hear firsthand the aftermath for 13 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Richard when he went from being a hero to a 14 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: suspect in the bombing. Dana Jewel, Welcome to Zone seven. 15 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: Thanks Cheryl, Thanks for having me. 16 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: Honey, this conversation's overdue. I tell you, you and I 17 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: we've talked, we know each other, but what you and 18 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: Richard went through is like no other story, and especially 19 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: for you, you weren't married to him during the bombing. 20 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean y'all didn't get together until like eighteen months after. 21 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: Tell us what he would tell you about those eighty 22 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: eight days of being a suspected bomber. 23 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: You know, he didn't talk a lot about it because 24 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: it was just too emotional. It was too much for him. 25 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: But when he would, when he would say stuff, you know, 26 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: it was the experience left him paranoid. He always was 27 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: looking over his shoulder, always thinking somebody was following us. 28 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: He would take different ways home and be checking the 29 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: rear view mirror all the time. You know. He he 30 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: said it was pure hell. It was eighty eight days 31 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: of hell, is what he said. One thing that really 32 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: upset him was that he had to put his Doberman Lacey. 33 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: He had to put her at the at the vent 34 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: because the media was so bad outside of the apartment 35 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 2: that he couldn't even take Lacy for a walk. And 36 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: and that Richard was a huge animal lover and that 37 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: was his best friend, and he couldn't even have her 38 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: as a support during all this time because it was 39 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: such a crazy, crazy atmosphere outside of their apartment. 40 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think that's also one of those 41 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: deals nobody thinks about that nobody thinks about the pet. 42 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: Nobody thinks about best friends and you know, potential employers. 43 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: They don't ever factor that into this equation. When you're 44 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: accused of something at this level and you've got two 45 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: extremely powerful entities, meaning the government, the FBI and the 46 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: media both are coming at you. I mean to me, 47 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: that don't make him paranoid. That makes him smart. He 48 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: had been followed, right, sure. 49 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had been it. He had been followed even 50 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: before it was officially announced that he was a suspect. 51 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: You know, they followed him, you know, just within a 52 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: few days after the bombing. They were already following him. 53 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: He didn't know it at the time, but you know, 54 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: he he was. He would say he you know, he 55 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: would admit that he was paranoid. He had really good 56 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: reason too. He was very it was very hard to 57 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: get to know Richard, you know. And yeah, I didn't 58 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: know him before the bombing, but he it was very 59 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: hard for him to get to trust people. He was 60 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: not easy to get to know. I think that one 61 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: reason why he and I hit it off in the 62 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: beginning was because I didn't I didn't look at him 63 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: as Richard Jewel, the suspect in the bombing or Richard Jewel, 64 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: the hero in the Olympic Park bombing. I just saw 65 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: him as Richard, and I think that that meant a 66 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: lot to him because there was never any pressure with me, 67 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: you know, between us to be a certain way. It 68 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: was never you know. I tried not to make it 69 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: awkward because I didn't see him like. I just saw 70 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: him as a person. I just really the first time 71 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: I met him, I'm like, Oh, he's such a sweet 72 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: little thing. You know. 73 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: How did y'all meet Dana? 74 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: We met on a drug bust. We sure did. 75 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: Awesome. 76 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: So his first job after the bombing was was in Luthersville, Georgia, 77 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 2: which is in Meriwether County, about forty balls south of Atlanta. 78 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: And I worked for Meriwether County Department of Family and 79 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 2: Children's Services. I was a child protective Services investigator. And 80 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: on April tenth, which is my birthday of ninety eight, 81 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: at about four o'clock, I had to go out to 82 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: check on some kids that we had got a report 83 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: and there was possible drugs in the home and a 84 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: drug dealing boyfriend and and all that. So I went 85 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: to check on the kids, but I went to buy 86 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 2: the Luthersville Police Department to see if you know, an 87 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: officer could go with me out there, because we had 88 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: gotten word that the guy might be a little bit difficult. 89 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: So anyway, Richard was there and he's like yeah, and 90 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: then a couple of other officers went to and a 91 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: deputy went and so that's how we met. Come to 92 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: find out, yes, the guy was a drug dealer. Yes, 93 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: there was another big dog drug dealer coming by later 94 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: on in the night. So we spent about four hours 95 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: out there. It was after eight o'clock when we got done, 96 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: and I had ridden with them, so I couldn't leave, 97 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: And so we spent about four hours out there that night, 98 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: and that was the beginning of our story, A drug bust. 99 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: You and I have talked, so you know, I only 100 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: met Richard twice, once that morning that the bomb went off, 101 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: and then once years later when he worked for Sonoy 102 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: Police Department. And we spoke only briefly that day, but 103 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: both times I saw him in person, he was so sweet. 104 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: He was very kind, almost tenderhearted, but certainly wanted to 105 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: help people. And what hits me about y'all's story is, 106 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: after those eighty eight days, which was actually longer than that, 107 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: because even when he was no longer a suspect, even 108 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: when we knew who the bomber was with Eric Robert Rudolph, 109 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: his life was still affected negatively from that experience. But 110 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: what did he do with that experience. He still had 111 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: a servant's heart. He still wanted to serve people, Dana. 112 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: He did, I mean, And his calling was definitely to 113 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: be a police officer. That's all he wanted to do. 114 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: You know. He caught him himself the black sheep of 115 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: his family because the other men on the moms on 116 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: his mom's side of the family were all firemen, and 117 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: then he was a policeman. So he said he was 118 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: a black sheep. But he did I mean, and he, 119 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes to the dismay of people, he lived 120 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: and breathed law enforcement. He loved it. He would drive 121 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: us all a little crazy sometimes about being so gung 122 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: ho at times. 123 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I sat in a whole bunch of 124 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: meetings after the bomb went off, and everybody had all 125 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: these theories and they would toss them around trying to 126 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: connect the three bombings, and they couldn't They couldn't have 127 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: any reasonable answer for these three completely different you know, 128 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: bombs and the locations, but I can tell you Richard 129 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: never made any sense. 130 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't you know, I don't know, after 131 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: having gotten to know Richard and just know his heart, 132 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: I don't know how anybody that knew him before the 133 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: bombing could even think, I mean, even for a second 134 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: thing that he could have done something like that. The 135 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: way he loved his fellow man and he just loved people, 136 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: I just don't understand how anybody could think that he 137 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: would have had that in his heart to be able 138 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: to do that. 139 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's one thing that hurt him is 140 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: how the FBI came at him and some of the 141 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: things that they said, and then the way the media 142 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: ran with such negative statements about him, right, Yeah, The 143 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: very people that he saw as comrades, you know, attacked him. 144 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: They really did, and they said some really some really 145 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: awful things about him, you know, and one guy with 146 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: the GBI that was supposed to be his friend really 147 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: tricked him a war a wire to his in him 148 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: and his mom's apartment, you know, he came to eat 149 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: dinner with them in war a wire, And you know, Richard, 150 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: that's some that's some betrayal. That a person doesn't get 151 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: over very very quickly, and Richard definitely didn't. And that 152 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: was part of why it was it was hard to 153 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: get to know Richard, and you know, and it was 154 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: it was hard for my friends that had been my 155 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: friends for twenty years at that point, you know, fifteen years. 156 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: They were like, I just can't read Richard. I just 157 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: don't know, you know, I don't think he likes me. 158 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not it. It's just keep being you. He 159 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: has trust issues, and he has good reasons to have 160 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: trust issues. 161 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: And the person that wore the wire from the GBI 162 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: that resulted in nothing but more heartache. 163 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: It really did, and that really I mean that just 164 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: you know, I just for real, if people in my profession, 165 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: I think if I had been in law enforcement and 166 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: the people that I called my friends and my brothers 167 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: and sisters in law enforcement treated me like that, the 168 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: last thing I would have wanted to do is to 169 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: go back into law enforcement and trust people with my life, 170 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: because you have to trust the people who you work 171 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: with when you're a law enforcement officer, you trust them 172 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: with your life. I don't know how he did it. 173 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: He's a better person than I think I would have been. 174 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: And I think that's what I was trying to say, 175 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: is that you would think, after all the betrayal and 176 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: all the negativity, that he would be like, y'all can 177 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: have it, good luck to you, and he would have 178 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: just gone into a completely new field where maybe nobody 179 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: knew him and he wouldn't have to put his life 180 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: on the line. But that is not what he did 181 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: at all. 182 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: No, it's not what he did. And he he still 183 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: loved it. He loved it till the day he died. 184 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: And that was I think part of him not being 185 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 2: able being told that he couldn't be a police officer 186 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: anymore once he after he got sick, you know, it 187 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: was just a few weeks then when he passed away. 188 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: I think that that that that is what broke him, 189 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 2: when he knew he couldn't go back and be an 190 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: officer or a deputy, he couldn't go and hunt and 191 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: fish like he wanted to. I think that that was, 192 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: you know, that that broke him. I believe. 193 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: Now, Dana, right before he got sick, he would have 194 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: terrible nightmares. 195 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: Oh, oh, Cheryl, he had terrible nightmares from the time 196 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: we met all the way, you know, through till he died, 197 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: I mean, and it would be. And he warned me, 198 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 2: you know, be careful and don't wake me up if 199 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: I'm ever asleep, or be careful, you know, throw something 200 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: at me to wake me up. And I'm like, what 201 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: are you talking about, And he said, because I'll wake 202 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: up throwing hands. And so I said, well, that's good to. 203 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: Know, like a night terror exactly. 204 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: But he would wake me up in the middle of 205 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: the night, I mean several times a week, having the 206 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: night terairs, yelling no, no, no, get out, get out, 207 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: get out. You know, we're in different things. And I 208 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: would wake him up and then he he would be 209 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: soaking wet his shirt and his sleep pants and the sheets. 210 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: We'd have to change the sheets on the bed and 211 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 2: he'd have to take a shower and put clean clothes 212 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: on because he was just totally soaking wet from sweat 213 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: from what those those nighttairs did to him. And he 214 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: wouldn't he wouldn't take medicine. I tried to get him 215 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: to take something, you know, to kind of relax at 216 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: night so he could sleep, because a person's got to, 217 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: you know, And he would run on about three hours 218 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: of sleep at night. And that's not healthy. But he 219 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: would not take any medicine. He did not He wouldn't 220 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: go to the doctor. And that was part of the 221 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 2: paranoia because he said, you know, I still have this lawsuit, 222 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: and if I go to the doctor and there's something 223 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: wrong with me, then the AJAC will get that information 224 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: and they'll use it in the lawsuit against me. 225 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: And that's another thing people always say, Man, if that 226 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: happened to me, I would sue the daylight that of them. 227 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: But that's a lot of stress too, and that's a 228 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: lot of money. And they've already come at his private life. 229 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they made fun of him, They made fun 230 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: of his mama, they made fun of the way they lived, right, 231 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: and so now you're opening yourself up for more of that. 232 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: The lawsuit with the AJAC was the one that he 233 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: really wanted to see come to fruition, and unfortunately he 234 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: didn't get to see that. Well, none of us did. 235 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: What happened with that because you're talking about reporter that 236 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: leaked the information that the FBI had. 237 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: Right right her, Well, her her name was Kathy Scrubbs, 238 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: who wrote the wrote that article. And he really didn't have, 239 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: you know, very nice things to say about her. I mean, 240 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: he really held her in the A j C At 241 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: fault for all of the eighty eight days and for 242 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: all the everything that came after. You know, he felt 243 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: like the A j C. And Kathy Scrubs was responsible 244 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: for destroying his life. 245 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: Well, tell us what happened with the lawsuit. 246 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: Well, so after he died, it went on and on. 247 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: I mean it was just ridiculous. It went on and 248 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: on and fighting back and forth. But after he after 249 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: he died, it went over into his to his estate, 250 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: and then they fought for a while longer. But I 251 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: believe in twenty eleven we had to call it quits. 252 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: We just we didn't have we didn't have the money 253 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: to keep fighting it. His mom and I didn't have 254 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: the money to keep fighting it. And you know, when 255 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: he wasn't around to be able to testify and do things. 256 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: So you know, Bobby and I talked to sat down 257 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: and talked with the attorneys, and you know, we just 258 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: made a decision that you know, this, this had to 259 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: be it because we we didn't have one hundred thousand 260 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: dollars laying around to go get copies of all of 261 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: the court transcripts. So Bobby and I didn't We didn't 262 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: have one hundred thousand dollars to get the court transcripts 263 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: transcripts that were needed. So you know, we just had 264 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: to make the decision to just drop it. 265 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: So no justice at all, there no. 266 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: No justice at all, no justice for Richard and that 267 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: and I really hate that for him and his mom 268 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: and and and Watson and Lynn and Wayne and you know, 269 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: because they all fought for for Richard for all those 270 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 2: years too. 271 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: They all fought. 272 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 273 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. I think a lot of people 274 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: think he got crazy paid, but that's not true. 275 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 2: No, it's not true. It's not true at all. And 276 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 2: here's the here's here's funny. I don't I don't know 277 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 2: how much money he got from all those I still 278 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: don't know. And because when when we started getting serious 279 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: and we were about to get married, you know, and everything, 280 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: he's like, you know, I can't tell you how much, 281 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: uh how much these settlements were for. And I'm like, 282 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: have I asked you? And he goes, no, he said, 283 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: but I can't tell you because if I tell you, uh, 284 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: then if when we go to court, if they ask you, 285 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: then you'll have to tell the truth. And I'm not 286 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: supposed to have told you. I said, I don't need 287 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: to know. I don't I don't care to know. I 288 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: don't want to know because I don't want anybody asking 289 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 2: me on the stand, you know, I don't want to know. 290 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: So to this day, I don't know. 291 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: So Richard still did the right thing, no matter what. 292 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a follower for real. He was a follower, 293 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 2: and you know, and he never told me, you know, 294 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 2: the things that would say would be you know, his 295 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: his thing that he would tell folks was, yeah, he 296 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: got he got, he got settlements, but really he only 297 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: got a third because a third went to the attorneys, 298 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: a third went to the taxes, and a third went 299 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 2: to him. And he didn't work for eighteen months because 300 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: nobody would give him a job. So he lived off 301 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: of that that money that he got, you know, and 302 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: he was able. There was there was a little bit 303 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: of money, but then when we once we bought our house, 304 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: that was pretty much you know, we put that in 305 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: the house and that was pretty much it. 306 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: Then. So well, he deserved every dime. He deserved every 307 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: diamond more so, well, let's talk about when Kent Alexander 308 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: came calling. 309 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so you know, Richard, he wasn't a big 310 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: fan of Kent's either, really initially. After after all that 311 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: in two thousand and three, I think when Eric Robert 312 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: Rudolph when when we went to court and he pled guilty, 313 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: I think that was two thousand and three, Richard talked 314 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: to Kent a little bit, and you know, Richard had 315 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: softened up a little bit and was a little bit 316 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: you know better, felt a little bit better about Kent. 317 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: So when Kent reached out to me, I called, actually 318 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: I called Lynn Would and and I also talked to 319 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: Watson Brian and I was like, okay, so dude, his 320 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 2: dude's calling me. What's going on? You know? And so 321 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, we're gonna talk to him. He's going 322 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: to do this book. So I was like okay, because 323 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: I had I had uh. I had promised Richard when 324 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: he when he died, I promised him I was gonna 325 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: figure out a way and I was gonna get a 326 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 2: book written about him. Because before the week or two 327 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: weeks before he died, we went to the bookstore and 328 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: bought some books about how to write a book, because 329 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: he was ready to write his own book. So I 330 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,239 Speaker 2: promised that I was going to get that done, you know. 331 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: And so I had talked to a guy, a friend 332 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 2: of mine, about writing a book about him. He had 333 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: never written a book, and so we were kind of 334 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 2: talking about that for We've been and talks about that 335 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: for a while. And then Kent calls and and after 336 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: I talked to the attorneys then and I talked to 337 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: Kent and he was wonderful. He was amazing. And I 338 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 2: met with him and Kevin and they really put me 339 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: at ease, and I was like, yeah, I really I 340 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: trust these guys. I love the concept that, you know, 341 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 2: the idea of how they wanted to write the book 342 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: and tell the story. And I'm thinking, what better person 343 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: to write the book? If Richard Kent write it? What 344 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 2: better person to write the book. Kent was there on 345 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: the law enforcement side. 346 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean he was there, yep, he was in the 347 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: command center. And let me tell you, you know, he 348 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: wrote the letter in October saying he's not a suspect. 349 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: He didn't do it. 350 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: Right, and that was that was uncommon. You know, that 351 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: was kind of wild that Richard got that letter. 352 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. And then come January, here the FBI 353 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: comes again, naming him as the bomber Ken Alexander. For 354 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: those of y'all that don't know, I should have already said. 355 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: But he was the US attorney for the eleventh Circuit, 356 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: so it was going to be his case. This was 357 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: his deal. So from a minute that bomb detonated, he 358 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: was in the command center. He was running things. He 359 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: was making sure people were interviewed and things were collected 360 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: correctly and legally and you know, scientifically, like he was 361 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: making sure everything was done properly. And as he started 362 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: to look at this thing and all of his people 363 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: were given their opinions, and all of us that were 364 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: there that day and that morning, I mean it just 365 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: we were, I think, all pretty shocked how this thing 366 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: went and the way it went as quick as it did. 367 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: Because if you think of somebody planting that bomb, and 368 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: let's just say it was richer like they said, he 369 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: stayed there next to it, He turned his back to 370 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: it and was pushing people away. How does that make it? 371 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: Ey say sense? 372 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 2: Right? I mean, it doesn't make sense. Who would do that? 373 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: Who would do that? 374 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: Right? 375 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: And then you want me to believe he ran down 376 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: there and made a phone call to nine one one, 377 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: but then ran back. 378 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: Richard was a big back boy back then. He was big. 379 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 2: He couldn't have ran anyway. But it was impossible for 380 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: anybody to have gone to the phone the way. I mean, 381 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 2: it was a four I think a four or five 382 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 2: minute walk from from where the bomb was, so you know, 383 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 2: it couldn't have happened. But Richard was a big boy. 384 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: He couldn't have done that anyway. 385 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: And then there was no motive. They could not find 386 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: a motive. They just were making up a motive. And 387 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, so when Kent got involved, and I think 388 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: all of us heard always writing the book. He's writing 389 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: the book. I had the same reaction you did. There's 390 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: nobody better at this point, and I knew that he 391 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: would honor what Richard did. I knew he would. And 392 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: then the movie tell us about when Richard got sick 393 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: and died. 394 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: In February of two thousand and seven. I had been 395 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: sick with bronchitis for like the two months before then, 396 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: so we had been sleeping in separate bedrooms because so 397 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: he could sleep because I was coughing my head off 398 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: and had the air condition I had an air conditioning 399 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: going in December and January because I was so hot, 400 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: it was it was crazy. But so he was in 401 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: the other bedroom. So one day I saw these little 402 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: h these little crescent looking things on the wood floor. 403 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: Now I'm like that, I think one of the dogs 404 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: has a cut on their foot. I told him that, 405 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: you know, because it's blood. He goes, I don't know, 406 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: it may be my foot. And I said, well, let 407 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: me see, and he hit the one of his big toes. 408 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: Was just the whole bottom of it was just one 409 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: big sore. I said, Richard, how long has that been 410 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: like that? He's like, I don't know. I can't fit 411 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 2: And I said what. He goes, I can't feel my feet. 412 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 2: And I said, what do you mean you can't feel 413 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: your feet? He goes, I can't feel anything on my feet. 414 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 2: I said, okay. It was a Sunday afternoon. I said, okay, 415 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: well look here, I am gonna go lay down. I'm 416 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: gonna take a nap, and when I wake up for 417 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: my nap, I'm either taking you to the emergency room 418 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: or I'm gonna pack my bags. I'm going to my 419 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: mama's house because I'm not gonna see here and watch 420 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 2: your foot brought off. So I went and laid down. 421 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: In about five minutes, I hear a tap tap tap 422 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 2: on the door, and uh, I said what he said, Well, 423 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: after you wake up, I'll let you take me to 424 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: the hospital, said, I jumped up. I said, I can't wait, 425 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: let's go now. So we went. That was when he 426 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: was diagnosis having diabetes. Then they ended up having to 427 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 2: clean out his toe in his infect the infection had 428 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: gotten in his bone. They ended up having he had 429 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: to be on iv ana by audix, which then ended 430 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 2: up making him making his kibe and he shut down, 431 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: so then he had to do dialliss. Then another toe 432 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: got in the way and got hurt. He was still 433 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: trying to heal this big toe, so that next toe 434 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: to his big toe had to be amputated. I mean, 435 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 2: it was just like one thing after another, and then 436 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: they couldn't control his blood pressure. It would drop about 437 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: seventy points when he would go from sitting to standing 438 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: and he would pass out. He was passing out a 439 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: week before he died. He called, well, I came home 440 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: from work in the back porch, was there was water 441 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 2: all over the place and I come in. I look 442 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: and he's laying in the bed and didn't have a 443 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 2: shirt on and blood's all over his chest. I'm like, 444 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: what's going on. He had fallen on the back porch 445 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: water and the dogs and had cut his eyebrow and 446 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 2: so I had to take him to get stitches in 447 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 2: his eyebrow because he busted it open. I mean it was. 448 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: He was in and out of the hospital for about 449 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: three months of the last six months of his life. 450 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: And that was about he was in the hospital in noon, 451 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: and and we lived in Woodbury, so that was about 452 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: a forty five minute drive. So the poor man, I mean, 453 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: it just one thing after another. Finally his kidney's kicked 454 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: back in and he was able to go off Dallas's. 455 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: And he told me, he said, I'll never do that again. 456 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: I will die before I have to do dialysis again. 457 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 2: His kidney doctor had told him that he wasn't going 458 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: to be able to go back to work as a 459 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 2: police officer, and he wasn't really going to be able 460 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: to hunt or fish by himself and that kind of thing. 461 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: And the last time he the last night he went 462 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 2: to work, he had he was holding his belt, his 463 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: gun belt, and I said, Richard, what are you doing? 464 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: He said, well, I'm just gonna he was holding his 465 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: gun belt and his bullet proofessed I said, what are 466 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: you doing? He said, well, I'm going to just put 467 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: it in the car, and if I get a call 468 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: and need it, I'm gonna put it on. That was 469 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: the only time I'd ever seen him not in full 470 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: uniform with a vest and his belt on and everything 471 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: to a t right, And so I said, I don't 472 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: I don't think you should go to work. I don't 473 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 2: you know, if if, if you're not feeling like you 474 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 2: can carry all that, I don't think you need to go. 475 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 2: He's like, I'll be okay, I'll be okay. Well, the 476 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: next morning, one of the deputies called me as I 477 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: was getting ready to go to work and was like, 478 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: you probably need to come up here and get Richard. 479 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 2: He was at at one of the little restaurants up there, 480 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: and he had basically passed out at the restaurant. I mean, 481 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: he just was exhausted from working that night. And so 482 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: after that is when the after that is when he 483 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: went back to the nephrologist and she said that you 484 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: know you can't, you can't do that anymore. You're not 485 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: able to. So the day that he died was a Wednesday, 486 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: August the twenty ninth, and I had started calling about 487 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: ten till ten, you know, to make sure he was 488 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: up and awake and all that, and he never answered, 489 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: and he didn't answer, and he didn't answer, so it 490 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: freaked me out. So I came home. I flew home, 491 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: and I got to the I got I opened my door. 492 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: At the time, we had eight dogs and five cats 493 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: because Richard brought home every animal that was around. We 494 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: also had five goats, and we had geese. We had 495 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: rabbits because the man brought everything home. But the dogs 496 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: were in the house and I've never cheryl never. I 497 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: never heard them howl like they were howling. And so 498 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: I go running to the door and it was locked, 499 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: So that was weird. So I knew he had not 500 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: been out or let the dogs out since I had left. 501 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: And so I got I walked in and our chocolate 502 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: lab named Duke was he came in nudge me and 503 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: he started walking back, and so I went to the 504 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: bedroom and Richard was there. He was sitting at the 505 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: end of the bed, leaning up against the arm will 506 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: and I was like, Richard, U okay, And he didn't 507 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: say anything. And I walked over and you know and 508 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: felt him, and I knew that he was gone, and 509 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: so I think what happened was I think he got 510 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: up as I was leaving and probably died before I 511 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: even got out of the driveway, is what I think. 512 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: He died of a massive heart attack because of due 513 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: to complications of diabetes. 514 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: Dana, I'm just so sorry. I mean, he was such 515 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: a sweet and gentle man that just got a roll 516 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: deal all the way around. 517 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: Yeah he did. He was such a great guy. I mean, 518 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: he was funny, and he was loving, and he was 519 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: a goofball, you know, and all those things and not 520 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: like he was nothing. He wasn't like what people heard 521 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: that he was on the news every night. 522 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate what you were for him. And you know, 523 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: the last thing I'll ask you about is what did 524 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: you think watching the movie. 525 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 2: I didn't have anything to do with the movie. I 526 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: wasn't contacted about the movie. So when one of the 527 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: my sister in law, was able to get a theater 528 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: to let us watch it early on a Saturday morning 529 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: before it was released to everybody else later, and so 530 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: we had invited I had invited family and friends to come. 531 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: So that's the only time I've watched it, and i'd 532 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: I'll watch it again one day. I'm not ready yet. 533 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's been six years. I'm still not ready yet. 534 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: Because it was so incredibly hard. I cried the whole time. 535 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: I know, my mom and I cried and we hugged 536 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: each other and cried throughout the whole movie. It was 537 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: just it was just so it was so emotional. But 538 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: you know, and there was some things that they got wrong, 539 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: of course, you know, Hollywood kind of does that. But overall, 540 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: I thought that the movie really depicted well of what 541 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: Richard described to me about what he went through during 542 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: that time, and it was pretty amazing. I think, like 543 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: the parking you know, in the the apartment parking lot, 544 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: that's that's what he described. That's how he described it, 545 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: you know. And I think that they got so much 546 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: in that movie, right. A few things not so much, 547 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: but but for the most part, I think the majority 548 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: of the movie I thought was was wonderful. 549 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you joining us. I tell you it was. 550 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: It was a crazy time for all of us that 551 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: were involved. But I don't think any of us can 552 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: overstate what happened to Richard. 553 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: You know, it was it's something I still kind of 554 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: pinched myself. I don't still I'm like, God, how did 555 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 2: this happen? How did I meet him and be a 556 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: part of this? But I was so blessed to have 557 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: met him and to have fallen in love with him 558 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: and to be able to be a part of his 559 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: after the Olympic part bombing. I'm so thankful that we 560 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: were able to spend the time together that we did. 561 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: And you know, I was truly blessed to have met 562 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: him in him been a part of my life, and 563 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: I think that you know, I think he felt the 564 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: same way about me, because it was it was a 565 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: it was a love story that started in a drug bust, as. 566 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: All great love story should. 567 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: Should exactly exactly. 568 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: It was awesome, and listen, I'm thrilled that we were 569 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: able to become friends, and you know we have an 570 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: odd connection as well, but you know, what a great 571 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: way to start a friendship. You know, good things do 572 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: come from bad situations, exactly. 573 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: And I appreciate that you reached out to me. I 574 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: really do, Cheryl, thank you, of. 575 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: Course, and for your first podcast you were awesome. 576 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. Thanks. I appreciate that. 577 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: Well, We will talk soon, and I'm going to end 578 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: Zone seven the way that I always do with a quote. 579 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: Okay, the media. 580 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: Can destroy lives faster than the criminal justice system can 581 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: save them. Richard Jewel, I'm Cheryl McCollum, and this is 582 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: Zone seven.