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Speaker 1: Previously on Queen of the Con. In May, con artist

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Speaker 1: while recovering from Brazilian butt lift surgery. She was yelling

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Speaker 1: tissue out of joint when they were handoffing her. She's

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Speaker 1: accused of trying to scam the federal government out of

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Speaker 1: nearly a million dollars, which suggests she's not going to

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Speaker 1: But Daniel Miller is no stranger to jail time. At

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Speaker 1: just thirty two years old, she's got a shockingly wrong

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Speaker 1: rap sheet in multiple states, and her trouble with the

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Speaker 1: law sadly starts really young. I was thirteen when I

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Speaker 1: made the videos at the time. Are you a virgin? Uh?

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Speaker 1: I'm Jonathan Walton and this is Queen of the Con

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Speaker 1: The Rich Girl, Episode two, Swiffer Girl. It's really a shame.

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Speaker 1: She's obviously a very intelligent person and it would be

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Speaker 1: nice if she put that to better use. Long before

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Speaker 1: Daniel Miller attracts attention for being a con artist back

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Speaker 1: in two thousand four, a teenage scandal overnight puts her

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Speaker 1: name on the lips of every student, every parent, and

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Speaker 1: every teacher at her prep school. And she said she's

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Speaker 1: swift Er Girl. And of course, and I only kind

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Speaker 1: of knew what that was because I worked at New

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Speaker 1: York Magazine, which had done a big story about it.

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Speaker 1: In two thousand eighteen. When Daniel Miller calls up journalist

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Speaker 1: Jessica Pressler, she's looking to get her story out there,

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Speaker 1: her Swiffer Girl story. She showed me she was kind

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Speaker 1: of working on a memoir at that point. She had

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Speaker 1: done a lot of writing, and I learned all about Swiftfordgate.

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Speaker 1: Her stories were bananas, and she was a great writer

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Speaker 1: and storyteller. And I actually ended up putting her in

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Speaker 1: touch with a literary agent at one point. Yeah, did

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Speaker 1: you consider her at that point like a colleague? Almost

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Speaker 1: like you thought she had good writing shops and a

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Speaker 1: good story to tell. No, I wouldn't say a colleague.

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Speaker 1: It was more like, this is an interesting person, and

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Speaker 1: what a wild story, and if she can do it herself,

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Speaker 1: then you know, maybe better for her. She can, you know,

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Speaker 1: sort that out. But obviously she wasn't the most stable

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Speaker 1: person in the world. She didn't appear to me to

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Speaker 1: this is a live wire, a bit of a live wire,

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Speaker 1: but interesting to talk to you. And do you know

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Speaker 1: if it went anywhere? Did did the agent you introduce

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Speaker 1: her to sign her to a dealer? Is she writing

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Speaker 1: a book? I mean, she claims to be doing so

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Speaker 1: many things right now. I think it was something like

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Speaker 1: the agent met with her, read the pages, was like,

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Speaker 1: had the same feeling I that, like, Wow, this person

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Speaker 1: is like crazy and kind of a great story. And

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Speaker 1: then you know, when it came to kind of maybe

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Speaker 1: actually doing the work, it's like it kind of fell apart. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. She kind of maybe disappeared at that point. Um,

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Speaker 1: and then the next chapter of her life began. And

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Speaker 1: that next chapter is a real page turner. But before

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Speaker 1: we get to it, it's important to understand daniel Miller's

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Speaker 1: original claim to fame or infamy in this case, How

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Speaker 1: did Daniel Miller first, you know, burst into public consciousness,

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Speaker 1: at least in New York social circles. When Danielle was

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Speaker 1: in the eighth grade, the internet was new was the

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Speaker 1: early two thousand's, and she sent an explicit video to

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Speaker 1: a classmate who had asked her to send something saying

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Speaker 1: to show that she wasn't approved. She sent a video

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Speaker 1: of her doing something with a swipper, unclear what, and

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Speaker 1: it went viral and it was kind of like the

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Speaker 1: viral example of revenge form. And she was thirteen years

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Speaker 1: old and it was horrible and she was ostracized, and

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Speaker 1: it really just kind of set a tone for her life. Really,

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Speaker 1: I think it really with a defining incident for her.

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Speaker 1: And this isn't just any run of the mill school

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Speaker 1: where what's come to be known as swiffer Gate happens.

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Speaker 1: It's Horace Man, a private and extremely expensive prep school

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Speaker 1: in New York City where the likes of mega billionaire

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Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch sent his son James Horseman. Is you know,

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Speaker 1: one of those elite New York City private schools that

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Speaker 1: York City private schools competitive, you know, intense, a tough place,

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Speaker 1: probably a very tough place to whether a scandal like that.

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Speaker 1: I can imagine just a devastation that would cause a

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Speaker 1: You know, God, what that would do with someone. I

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Speaker 1: reach out to thirty seven different people affiliated with Horseman,

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Speaker 1: from students and Danielle's graduating class, two teachers, even janitors.

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Speaker 1: No one wants to talk about it, and Danielle is

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Speaker 1: still blocking at Queen of the Con on Instagram. She

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Speaker 1: has said publicly during an interview quote, I was thirteen

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Speaker 1: when I made the videos, and then all this came

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Speaker 1: to Fruition where it came out when I was fourteen

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Speaker 1: at the time. Are you a virgin? Uh? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was a virgin until I was fifteen. I didn't even

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Speaker 1: Like I didn't even know what to do. It was

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Speaker 1: basically all acting like what made you pick up the swiffer?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember? I honestly don't remember, and I literally

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Speaker 1: never seen the videos ever again since then. I remember

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Speaker 1: that in one of them that was sent out to everyone,

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Speaker 1: to the whole world. Was in the background, Britney Spears

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Speaker 1: as Toxic was playing that had just come out, and

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Speaker 1: like that song like triggered me for years. But oh

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Speaker 1: my god. And also I remember like being that age

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Speaker 1: and being so hyper sexual all the time. And also

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Speaker 1: I remember just how mean everyone was to each other.

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Speaker 1: I feel like middle school the time was like, especially

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Speaker 1: just fucking demonic. I mean, people were really really mean

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Speaker 1: and ridicule. And it was the early two thousands, which

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Speaker 1: I think than she might otherwise have been. Do you

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Speaker 1: think that is, if not the reason one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons she became who she became in terms of being

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Speaker 1: comfortable with, you know, diplomatically altering reality when she's talking

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Speaker 1: about her life or doing all these things she's accused of, lying, stealing, cheating.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's really hard to say, right. It's certainly

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Speaker 1: like if that hadn't happened, like was it like a

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Speaker 1: sliding doors moment? Perhaps? But here's the thing that really

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Speaker 1: strikes me as odd. In every con artist case I've

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Speaker 1: Irish heiress tricked me out of close to a hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars, never once have I come across a con

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Speaker 1: artist who I actually admits to being a con artist.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Miller is a different breed, though. In that New

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Speaker 1: York Magazine article, she's quoted as saying, I'm we're so

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Speaker 1: consider myself a con artist than anything. That's not what

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Speaker 1: all over the world. Her name has been dragged through

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Speaker 1: the mud since she's thirteen years old. My buddy Evan

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Speaker 1: Goldstein is profoundly sad for Daniel Miller. I do feel

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Speaker 1: a lot of empathy for her. It's like everyone was thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Everyone has done stupid shit. Everyone can think back to

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Speaker 1: They just, you know, wanted people to like them. They

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Speaker 1: I know, I think I would kill myself. I flirted

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Speaker 1: sorry she had to go through that. And Evan raises

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Speaker 1: it kind of blew my mind because it possibly explains

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Speaker 1: a con artist. Well, is it better to be infamous

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Speaker 1: and that's how you're known as a person in your life,

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Speaker 1: constantly running away. Is it better to become famous for

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Speaker 1: another reason, you know, not necessarily a positive one. She

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Speaker 1: Like I hadn't thought of that. So maybe she's trying

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Speaker 1: to black out the Swiffer Girl passed by becoming this

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Speaker 1: else in Daniel Miller's life at this point. That New

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Speaker 1: York magazine article quotes her diary where she writes, I

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Speaker 1: lived in a never ending Gossip Girl episode. Everyone wanted

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Speaker 1: fox swiffer girl to a certain extent, like that's not

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Speaker 1: her fault. You know, that's a tough statement to wrap

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Speaker 1: makes me want to cut her some slack, and journalist

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Speaker 1: Jessica Pressler feels the same way. In fact, Daniel Miller

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Speaker 1: considers Jessica a friend. Kind of like everything that she said,

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Speaker 1: it was so crazy that like it couldn't be made up,

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Speaker 1: some of the things that she said. Another interesting fact

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Speaker 1: my own con artist, the Irish Heiress, her family disowneder.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Miller's family has disowned her, and that to me

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Speaker 1: really messed up for her entire family, her mother, her father,

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Speaker 1: It's the child, you know, just like somebody who's you know,

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Speaker 1: really out of control of their lives. It's it's really

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Speaker 1: is it the perception of she choosing to be evil

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Speaker 1: or she probably scammed all of them too. I mean

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Speaker 1: I think that often happens, of course. In an interview

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Speaker 1: and I said, oh my god, one second, let me

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Speaker 1: take a look at this. I see that you have

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Speaker 1: some charge back. Everything is okay with your credit card

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Speaker 1: and she's like, no, no, everything is fine. Everything is

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Speaker 1: totally fine. And I'm like, okay, well, I see that

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Speaker 1: I have something some type of transaction. And then I'm

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Speaker 1: really going through and looks like the credit car company is, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's not giving me the money to all those purchases

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Speaker 1: that you did here, and she's like, let me let

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Speaker 1: me second, let me say, let me set all this down.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, everything should be fine, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: so then you're gonna settle this now, like we you

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Speaker 1: all a seven thousand dollars and she's like, no, it's impossible.

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Speaker 1: This is my credit card. And I'm like, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: so let's just on other type of verification. Can I

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Speaker 1: have your A D please? And she's like, I don't

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Speaker 1: always my D. I don't think I have my idea

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Speaker 1: with me. I think it's at home, and she started

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Speaker 1: creating this story. I said, okay, can you give me

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Speaker 1: the credit card that you've made these purchases with? And

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Speaker 1: she's like one second. So she started looking for those

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Speaker 1: credit cards and I'm like, well, I have all these transactions.

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Speaker 1: You must pay for this treatments because I see in

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Speaker 1: my computer that nothing has been paid. So she's like

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Speaker 1: one second, and she started making like a phone call

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Speaker 1: or something, and she was just very uncomfortable. And then

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Speaker 1: I did this with my hands, so you signaled. You

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Speaker 1: signal to the detectives who were outside. They were waiting

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Speaker 1: for her whole side of the story. So it came

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Speaker 1: in exactly at the time where she was going to

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Speaker 1: check out, and then she was like she froze. She

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Speaker 1: literally stand there and she's completely frozen. And then the

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Speaker 1: detective said, okay, well hi, I'm detective cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: And he's like, please, I would like to give me

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Speaker 1: your I need you, I need your idea, I need

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Speaker 1: you unifications. She's like, oh my god, I don't have anything.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, and then he she started creating the

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Speaker 1: story and he was like, okay, I need you to

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Speaker 1: come to the office with you. He's like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I need to skip with my Like what what's the problem,

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Speaker 1: And like she started like creating this kind of what's

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Speaker 1: the problem? Is nothing problem with me? I was like,

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Speaker 1: you all the business money, I need you to show

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Speaker 1: us a proof of purchases. I obviously pull all the

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Speaker 1: records and I laid all the information from all the

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Speaker 1: exercities in the credit card. And he started asking her

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Speaker 1: about all the credit card purchases and it's like, why

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Speaker 1: is this credit card is not in the name? Why

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Speaker 1: what is And then she started creating the story, Oh,

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Speaker 1: this is my friend and he purchased this thing for me,

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Speaker 1: and there was this my mom, and there was my sister,

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Speaker 1: and there was another person. And so he kind of yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's very funny. And she just didn't know, like

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Speaker 1: she was just white. She turned white, and so she

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Speaker 1: couldn't answer any of those questions. He took her purse

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Speaker 1: and he opened the purse and he found out another

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Speaker 1: credit cards inside. What yeah, and all of those credit

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Speaker 1: cards were not in her name, So she was doing

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Speaker 1: this a lot. Well, I was shocked because I didn't

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Speaker 1: even think, like all those names and credit cards and

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Speaker 1: and it's like, what is this credit card? And where

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Speaker 1: is that credit card? Where is this from? And then

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Speaker 1: what en? She couldn't ansen you that stuff. So she

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Speaker 1: just was shocked because we you know, we called her

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Speaker 1: the arst her in the spot. According to the NYPD,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Miller actually argues with the arresting officers, saying, quote,

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Speaker 1: my assistant made the appointment. I had an assistant when

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Speaker 1: I worked for a judge over the summer. I don't

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Speaker 1: have any credit cards with me. Remember, she was interning

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Speaker 1: with a New York judge who was a family friend.

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Speaker 1: And she's telling police that as an intern, she has

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Speaker 1: an assistant who booked these body factory appointments. How many

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Speaker 1: interns do you know have assistance anyway, Daniel Miller goes

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Speaker 1: on to tell the arresting officers, quote, I just want

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Speaker 1: to let you know my father is the president of

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Speaker 1: the New York State Bar Association. But police are clearly

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Speaker 1: not intimidated, because they end up cuffing her and hauling

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Speaker 1: her off to jail. I'm applauding you. Thank you what

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Speaker 1: you did. It is amazing. Thank you the patience you

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Speaker 1: show to wait until she called again instead of trying

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Speaker 1: to get cops to go to her place in the restaurant.

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Speaker 1: You wanted to catch her red handed. And that's unequivocal

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Speaker 1: evidence that police have with their own eyes watching her

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Speaker 1: come and try to use you know, stolen credit cards.

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Speaker 1: To me, was that about the money. My goal was

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Speaker 1: to catch her and to put her in her place.

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Speaker 1: Somebody needed to do this. Somebody needed to explain in

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Speaker 1: this world that you don't do stuff like this. You know,

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Speaker 1: I work hard for my business. I work hard for

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Speaker 1: what I do, and I don't steal anything from no one.

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Speaker 1: I work hard to what I have. I came from

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Speaker 1: a different country here, and I I'm a hard working person.

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Speaker 1: I don't need that somebody's you know, like her, so

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Speaker 1: pretty and young, and you know, and entitled to come

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Speaker 1: to my business and still my hard work. So daniel

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Speaker 1: Miller gets arrest did and is taken to a New

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Speaker 1: York City jail. But she has connections thanks to her father, who,

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Speaker 1: if you recall, is the president of the New York

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Speaker 1: Bar Association. All of a sudden, high powered attorney Barry

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Speaker 1: Commons is retained to defend her. He's a retired New

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Speaker 1: York judge and this courtroom is his old stomping ground.

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Speaker 1: He also used to be the president of the New

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Speaker 1: York Bar Association, and he's got a lucrative history of

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Speaker 1: representing high profile clients like Rudy Giuliani and Harvey Weinstein.

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Speaker 1: Attorney Berry Commons is able to get Danielle quickly released

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Speaker 1: from jail, no problem, as long as she agrees to

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Speaker 1: show up for any and all court appearances pertaining to

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Speaker 1: the criminal case against her. After all, she's being charged

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Speaker 1: with five felonies for her body factory skincare shenanigans, including

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Speaker 1: grand larceny, identity theft, and the unlawful possession of the

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Speaker 1: personal identification of a bunch of people. If she's convicted

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Speaker 1: on all five counts, she might be looking at five

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Speaker 1: years or more in jail, though it is her first

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Speaker 1: brush with the law, and high powered attorney Barry Commons

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Speaker 1: is confident he can get her off with probation. But

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Speaker 1: at her next super important court appearance, Barry Commons is

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Speaker 1: apoplectic because his client, Daniel Miller, is a no show

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Speaker 1: word on the street. Is she skipped down, the judge

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Speaker 1: is furious and he quickly issues a warrant for her arrest.

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Speaker 1: Three weeks later, authorities managed to track down Daniel Miller

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Speaker 1: and slap the cuffs on Earth and you won't believe

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Speaker 1: where it's crazy. Next time on Queen of the Con

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Speaker 1: I wanted to start something against cyber bulling and nonprofit right.

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Speaker 1: She's all into it because she went through the cyber

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Speaker 1: thing with swiffer Gate. Yeah this, yes, swifer Gate. Daniel

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Speaker 1: Miller pulls out all the stops to locked down the

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Speaker 1: object of her affection. She said, you know, during our friendship,

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Speaker 1: she was like, you know, we just get married, I'll

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Speaker 1: be able to get so many millions. And she's like,

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Speaker 1: then we can just like split it up. Then it

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Speaker 1: all goes horribly wrong. Oh my god, I had no idea.

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Speaker 1: Portions of public statements made to the media and to

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Speaker 1: authorities by Daniel Miller were dramatized verbatim in this episode,

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Speaker 1: as were the questions and comments from those interviewing her.

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Speaker 1: Media and I heart Media, hosted by me Jonathan Walton

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Speaker 1: Executive producers Jonathan Walton for Jonathan Walton Productions and Eliza

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