Speaker 1: Pushkin. Whether we like it or not. Opposites shape our world.
Speaker 1: There's this expectation of linearity that life begins and it
Speaker 1: proceeds along one trajectory and then it ends. Then once
Speaker 1: it ends, it stays ended. Life and debt time becomes
Speaker 1: something that can be paused or even sometimes reversed and
Speaker 1: restarted again you and me. So the Stasi came up
Speaker 1: with the methodology they called ze demolition of personality East
Speaker 1: and West. I grew up on Bollywood music of the
Speaker 1: forties and fifties and sixties that my dad used to play,
Speaker 1: and I think country music kind of does the same thing.
Speaker 1: There was a blues tradition that was mixed, it was shared.
Speaker 1: It was neither a white nor black, It was mongrel.
Speaker 1: Is the world ever truly black and white? Is it
Speaker 1: always easy to draw a line what happens at the
Speaker 1: border in the gray zone, where one thing turns into
Speaker 1: its opposite. When I think of a thunderstorm filled with
Speaker 1: energy and lightning and giving birth to tornadoes, it's very
Speaker 1: hardful meander to think about it as a kind of
Speaker 1: protal light. I'm Harry Kunzru As a novelist. I've written
Speaker 1: about computer viruses and Haunted Blues recordings about failed revolutions
Speaker 1: and mystical revelations in the desert. My new podcast explores
Speaker 1: the stories that structure the world and inspire my fiction.
Speaker 1: Over this season, we're going to travel into the Zone,
Speaker 1: to the borderlands of modern life, where nothing is as
Speaker 1: clear as it first appears. Time passes so quickly. We've
Speaker 1: been here about six years, I think, because God had
Speaker 1: already decided whether you will get into heaven or not.
Speaker 1: To the South and the powers of Fire. Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 1: This is Into the Zone, a new podcast by Pushkin
Speaker 1: Industries coming September third,