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Speaker 1: Advice shoot Spice, Hello Lollo, Welcome to the Naughty but

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Speaker 1: I'm your host. Drum Shooter is Wednesday, which means anyone

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Speaker 1: thing around. Hey, are our dear friend Donnie? Meet Chum

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Speaker 1: from Okay magazine dot com joins us, Donnie, are you there? Hello? Hellola?

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Speaker 1: Wednesday my favorite day of the week. It has already

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Speaker 1: been a crazy week with the webcast. And they don't

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Speaker 1: know how to act right. We thought with the holidays

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Speaker 1: of its slow down, don't know how to act right.

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Speaker 1: They don't know, they don't know, they don't know. You

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Speaker 1: would think during the holiday show, right during the holidays,

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Speaker 1: things would get quiet to actually gets louder because they're

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Speaker 1: all at home. None of them are workings that all

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Speaker 1: causing trouble. But we are here for that on the

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Speaker 1: Naughty Button Night Show, Naughty but Nice trouble. Hey, let's

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Speaker 1: jump in, my friends. What time is it? Ease te

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Speaker 1: big story at the time by the show, Britney Spears

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Speaker 1: is slamming Diane Sawyer for a two thousand and three interview,

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Speaker 1: saying Diane can kiss my white bottom. She says a

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Speaker 1: different word, but you know the word I mean. So

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Speaker 1: Brittany has said that after she broke up with Justin

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Speaker 1: timber League in two thousand and two. She was hold

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Speaker 1: up in her Manhattan apartment and she didn't really want

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Speaker 1: Let me explain. Brittany said the following quote. I never

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Speaker 1: spoke to anybody for a long time. I was in shock,

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Speaker 1: pretty lame of my dad and three men to show

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Speaker 1: up at my door when I was hardly speaking. Two

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Speaker 1: days later, they put Diane Sawyer in my living room.

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Speaker 1: They forced me to talk. I was a baby and

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Speaker 1: didn't understand, but I effing no. Now, all, well, this

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Speaker 1: is quite a revelation, so much so that even Brittany

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Speaker 1: liked the post. Come on, Danny, what do you think,

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Speaker 1: oh Lynn spears? But no, I remember this interview. It

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Speaker 1: was cringeworthy and it's just Back then though, we all

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Speaker 1: thought of it as Oh Brittany, the silly little Southern

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Speaker 1: pop star. She's so funny, And then now you think

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Speaker 1: about it, you're like her dad, Jamie really sunk his

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Speaker 1: it wasn't just the dad. Diane has certainly had something

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Speaker 1: That frames Brittany as the villain here now Britney saying,

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Speaker 1: Diane can kiss my white A s. S. But this

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Speaker 1: is bringing up something that's really interesting to me, particularly

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Speaker 1: as a media professional. Donnie. The times have changed. When

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Speaker 1: we used to do interviews, we used to love to

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Speaker 1: think Diane's style back then is something that she wasn't

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Speaker 1: alone doing. This also been complaints about Barbara Walters recently,

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Speaker 1: that interview. I mean, at the time I watched it

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Speaker 1: Now it's really wrong, Donnie. I think we're in a

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Speaker 1: the rude questions. No, I agree. Back then, it really

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Speaker 1: us to our pole question of the day. Britney Spears

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Speaker 1: s does Diane, Oh, Brittany an apology? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: tomorrow to hear your results. Donny Love, what are you

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Speaker 1: working on? Or? Speaking of another strong woman, Kim Kardashian,

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