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Speaker 1: following Big Jim Meller joining the program coming up at
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Speaker 1: our weekly guest from Serious XM NFL Radio and the
Speaker 1: former Bears quarterback off Things NFL. He's got the Wide View,
Speaker 1: and then refocus a little bit on your Chicago Bears
Speaker 1: with a visit from Bill Shoey, the new Outside linebackers coach.
Speaker 1: Been with the organization for a while now, since twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: a long and interesting coaching career. He'll be our guests
Speaker 1: coming up at the bottom of the hour. Good evening,
Speaker 1: Tom There, Hey, what's new, buddy? What is new? What
Speaker 1: is new? Oh? Nothing? Just excited to be uh, you know,
Speaker 1: watching the wires, the conversation about the NFL, the different
Speaker 1: elements of the league they're talking about, the players trying
Speaker 1: to get involved in the conversations and their own team speculation,
Speaker 1: where big free agents are going to go, and the
Speaker 1: real the NFL year hasn't even gotten under way yet,
Speaker 1: but there is never you never starved for a topic
Speaker 1: with the you know, whether it be the Bears or
Speaker 1: just the NFL in general. And honestly, it's that way
Speaker 1: every year, big time. And you know what to what
Speaker 1: are you referring to today? I mean, really, what really
Speaker 1: came across the wire today? It's guess what quarterback conversations
Speaker 1: We've already seen Matthew Stafford, movies seen Carson Wentz, Jason
Speaker 1: excuse me, Jared Goff and now the constant drama what
Speaker 1: appears to be around Deshaun Watson. According to ESPN meeting
Speaker 1: with the new head coach, David Cutting says, Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm sticking to my guns. I don't want to play
Speaker 1: for you. So now what now what? Well, I don't
Speaker 1: think he necessarily doesn't want to play for the new
Speaker 1: head coach. He doesn't want to play for the organization. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's really tough for you bringing
Speaker 1: a head coach and he takes a job, and he's
Speaker 1: excited because he has a franchise quarterback that could be
Speaker 1: there for another decade, and you think of one of
Speaker 1: the most important building blocks. But you know, it seems
Speaker 1: like right now all a lot of the players that
Speaker 1: are free agents are unhappy in what's going on with
Speaker 1: themselves and their organizations. Hey, you know, it's they have
Speaker 1: the talent. They have the ability to go out there
Speaker 1: and say, look, I want to go elsewhere. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's the best thing for the NFL, But
Speaker 1: that's just the world that we live in today. Everybody
Speaker 1: has an opinion about where all these quarterbacks are going to.
Speaker 1: And then you got the agent force heat a quarterback
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. This is the one that stirred up Twitter today,
Speaker 1: not demanding a trade. According to his agent, Mark Rogers,
Speaker 1: telling Adam Schefter of ESPN, wants to remain in Seattle.
Speaker 1: But if you're if you're thinking about moving me, there
Speaker 1: are only poor places I want to go. One of
Speaker 1: them is Chicago, one, Dallas, New Orleans, and Vegas. So
Speaker 1: this is what's coming out of that camp. There seems
Speaker 1: to be some bad blood blurret brillin there in some
Speaker 1: former fashion because it's been several weeks of this kind
Speaker 1: of constant conversation now about Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson, Well,
Speaker 1: you know what's the You know, it's in some of
Speaker 1: the disagreement with Russell Wilson as he talks about he's
Speaker 1: been sacked three hundred and ninety four times throughout a
Speaker 1: period in Seattle, and then he talks he wants to
Speaker 1: have a hand within the personnel decisions. And I don't
Speaker 1: think that's a player's right. I think the players should
Speaker 1: play the game. And um, you know the unfortunate way
Speaker 1: the times that he holds the ball a little bit
Speaker 1: longer than possibly he should, because he has great faith,
Speaker 1: in great trust in his athleticism, sometimes it does result
Speaker 1: in a sack. So, man, I think if the most
Speaker 1: important position on the team isn't focused about the team.
Speaker 1: It's really it could it could have some bad circumstances
Speaker 1: to go along with him if he's only thinking about
Speaker 1: what he can do, not necessarily what he should be doing. Right.
Speaker 1: I mean, he has been hit a lot, he has
Speaker 1: been sacked a lot. There are many factors. It's it's
Speaker 1: they've drafted a bunch of offensive linemen for a period
Speaker 1: of time, there as many as any team in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. They did get some terrific receiving weapons,
Speaker 1: and he helped make some of those weapons better players
Speaker 1: because of his ability. So it's an interesting cross section
Speaker 1: of thoughts and it's a it's it's immovable objects. Here
Speaker 1: you got you got a veteran head coach and Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1: You gotta now a veteran quarterback Russell Wilson that Seattle
Speaker 1: drafted in the middle rounds to uh in a very
Speaker 1: impactful ways, has risen to the challenge of not being
Speaker 1: a first round pick. But you know, I have great
Speaker 1: admiration for Russell Wilson. I think every time you'll get
Speaker 1: a chance to watch him on TV or he plays
Speaker 1: against the Bears, his athleticism how well physically conditioned he is,
Speaker 1: how he can make an old defensive player look old
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. So you know what, whatever he's
Speaker 1: capable of doing, I admire what he's already put down
Speaker 1: in terms of his early career template. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: he's got a great deal of confidence in himself that
Speaker 1: he can do the same thing if it is in
Speaker 1: Seattle or if it is not in Seattle. Another nugget
Speaker 1: today this week, I should say, not just today, and
Speaker 1: we're getting a Jim Miller here and just just a
Speaker 1: bit that Corey Linsley feels like he's not going to
Speaker 1: be back with the Green Bay Packers. Considered by many
Speaker 1: one of, if not the best center in football. He's
Speaker 1: turning thirty in July. But again, this is all salary
Speaker 1: cap related. You know, things are happening around every roster.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a ton of at Denver today releasing
Speaker 1: a five time Pro Bowl defensive tackle and Dull Casey, right,
Speaker 1: you know, with Lindsley and even Bakiar. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's easy to be considered one of the best players
Speaker 1: at your position when you play in front of Aaron Rodgers. Now,
Speaker 1: if you put these players on different teams. And we've
Speaker 1: seen it throughout Peyton Manning's career where there's a couple
Speaker 1: guy that I've gotten free agent opportunities with teams that
Speaker 1: had lesser supporting cast and they never lived up to
Speaker 1: the same role that they showed what they had the
Speaker 1: ability when they were playing behind in front of Peyton Manning.
Speaker 1: So I think when you talk about the best center
Speaker 1: in the league, you better just you know, temper that
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's a good player, but he's got
Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks in the history of the
Speaker 1: game behind him. Yeah, it happens at multiple positions. That
Speaker 1: could think of many wide receivers that were a number
Speaker 1: at two and number three and then they had a
Speaker 1: great year because of the attention paid to their number one,
Speaker 1: and then he goes out in the free agent market
Speaker 1: and never lives up to that building. Or a great
Speaker 1: pass rusher is on one side and the other guy's
Speaker 1: getting all the benefit because this guy's getting double team.
Speaker 1: Then now he becomes a high price free agent. So
Speaker 1: it's all very interesting. We'll discuss with Jim Miller here
Speaker 1: on Bears All Access after a first time out here
Speaker 1: on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the score. Welcome back
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Speaker 1: Our show a little bit better right now with Big
Speaker 1: Jim Miller, John of the Program and Serious x m
Speaker 1: FL Radio Moving the chains with our man Pat Kerwin.
Speaker 1: With Tom There, I'm Jeff, Joni act, Big Jim. Welcome
Speaker 1: back this week. How you feeling. I'm doing great, Jeff, Tom,
Speaker 1: always gonna be with you guys. So quiet though right now, right,
Speaker 1: this's just it's way too quiet in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: just not enough's going on, not enough conversation. What the heck? Well,
Speaker 1: and when's it gonna heat up? Jim, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna start heat well. Teams are still figuring out.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of I'm being I'm being facetious because
Speaker 1: every minute there's some new rumor. Well, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of well we call this the protest season. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of you know, players protesting about where
Speaker 1: they want to be and where they want to go
Speaker 1: and I don't want the tag and all these type
Speaker 1: of things, and yeah, there's a lot of speculation and
Speaker 1: in rumor, and some are just thrown out there because
Speaker 1: there's really nothing to write about right now. I just
Speaker 1: think teams are trying to figure out what they're going
Speaker 1: to do in the next week or so. Probably in
Speaker 1: the next ten days, you're going to see a blood
Speaker 1: letting of players around the NFL. There is going to
Speaker 1: be like right now, Pat and I went through it,
Speaker 1: there's over five hundred free agents that are out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's over twenty free age and running backs
Speaker 1: at that position alone. There's over forty defensive backs that
Speaker 1: are out there. You just mentioned Durell Casey, he's on
Speaker 1: the market. There literally will be over seven hundred free
Speaker 1: age and guys that are on the market here in
Speaker 1: the next ten days. There is going to be a
Speaker 1: huge blood letting of teams that need to clear up
Speaker 1: some cap space. Look at Denver by releasing a j
Speaker 1: Bouyer and Joe Casey, they just got twenty four million
Speaker 1: dollars back on their salary, GiB twenty four million dollars.
Speaker 1: What can you do with that money? And that's where
Speaker 1: teams are really looking at right now, so that they
Speaker 1: can clear up and get in this free agent market
Speaker 1: as much as they can. I have a question for
Speaker 1: both of you guys. If Trevor Lawrence wasn't such a
Speaker 1: sure thing, would we be talking more about the first
Speaker 1: couple picks of the draft, because it seems like we're
Speaker 1: only talking about free agency. And that's the veteran side
Speaker 1: of it. Where up unto this point, the three of
Speaker 1: us may have had three or four conversations about the
Speaker 1: combine and about the draft, but it just seems like
Speaker 1: everybody's just you know, hey, Trevor Lawrence is going to
Speaker 1: go here, and then let's see where everybody else falls into. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll the way in first, because Jim, there is no combine,
Speaker 1: so we're not there. We're talking about guy, because ordinarily
Speaker 1: we'd be at the combine, we'll be getting together, we'd
Speaker 1: be talking about everything that transpired over the course of
Speaker 1: the week and what's going to happen next week or
Speaker 1: who's gonna run this. Yeah, it's it's oddly different and
Speaker 1: most of my fat I mean, I started strong right
Speaker 1: when the playoffs started, getting ready for the draft and
Speaker 1: starting that process, but I've shifted now to free agency.
Speaker 1: For what you just said, to have that many people
Speaker 1: out on the free market. I mean, it's I don't
Speaker 1: want to be a veteran right now. Well here, Here's
Speaker 1: what I'd say is, but those are known commodities. These
Speaker 1: guys coming out in the draft are not. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody can say, oh, you're the jetsitude they should take
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson out there at BYU or Justin Fields or
Speaker 1: you name the quarterback. I mean, I just don't see
Speaker 1: that happening. Again. The guys that are out there are
Speaker 1: known commodities, and you're gonna be potentially drafting a player
Speaker 1: that you even that opted out last year. You know,
Speaker 1: there are some guys like I just interviewed Rousseau the
Speaker 1: University of Miami pass rusher. That guy's only played one season,
Speaker 1: one season of games that you're going and people get
Speaker 1: met at the Bears, mister Bisky only at thirteen starts.
Speaker 1: This guy's got less than Mitch Wow, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: draft him. Tommy Vant I want to hear both of
Speaker 1: you guys in this. You know, I know how you are. Tom.
Speaker 1: It's all about ball. So and granted there are a
Speaker 1: lot of guys you know you're going through your list
Speaker 1: and these are top guys that chose to avoid injury
Speaker 1: or for personal reasons to not play at their colleges
Speaker 1: in the pandemic circumstance. Are you gonna look at those
Speaker 1: guys differently despite their great talent? No, I know I would,
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of frown upon guys like the
Speaker 1: San Francisco guy that sits out because he was injured
Speaker 1: in college and then he doesn't have a lengthy track
Speaker 1: record of being durable Nick Bosa. So he doesn't have
Speaker 1: that track record of staying healthy through multiple seasons in
Speaker 1: college where he had to stop playing a senior year,
Speaker 1: then he got injured as a rookie, then he got
Speaker 1: injured as a second year guy. Some of the guys
Speaker 1: that sat out just because of the uncertainty of the
Speaker 1: COVID are are they coming in to be a starter?
Speaker 1: And I think there's more pressure on them coming in
Speaker 1: to be a starter because of some of the free
Speaker 1: agents that are not being signed. Jim, put your scouting
Speaker 1: cap on. How do you feel? How are you going
Speaker 1: to evaluate those guys? Yeah? I think one teams are
Speaker 1: evaluating differently and this year is going to be even
Speaker 1: more challenging. Again, That's why I think you'll see more
Speaker 1: guys drafted from the recess Senior Bowl because at least
Speaker 1: you got to see them play in an all star
Speaker 1: game where you could watch a wee week of practices
Speaker 1: of the top talent going against each other. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying these guys are going to be rusty. I mean
Speaker 1: certain guys are going to be rusty. But I think
Speaker 1: it showed down in Mobile that guys could quickly get
Speaker 1: back and involved because there were opt out guys that
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, really showed and really flashed and
Speaker 1: got their sea legs under them pretty quickly, and that
Speaker 1: they will be able to rebound and they will be
Speaker 1: able to contribute. But again, there's just so much less
Speaker 1: tape that you can watch on these guys as as
Speaker 1: we've just mentioned. So if we already thought that raft
Speaker 1: was a fifty fifty crapshoot case in point Isaiah Wilson,
Speaker 1: we all see what happens with him with Tennessee right now,
Speaker 1: the guy hasn't even been with the team ten months.
Speaker 1: He's a first round draft pick, and he's already on
Speaker 1: the block to be traded. Granted, he had some off
Speaker 1: the field. He actually had more incidents off the field
Speaker 1: than snaps that he played for the Tennessee Titans. So
Speaker 1: you better do your due diligence because the information is
Speaker 1: not going to be easy to come by because all
Speaker 1: these numbers, heights, weights, forty times ten yards, splits watching
Speaker 1: him work out, you may not even have be able
Speaker 1: to have a personal workout with a player. Are we
Speaker 1: able to even take all thirty guys? Every team's able
Speaker 1: to invite thirty guys to the facility? Is that even
Speaker 1: possible here? Even Roger Goodell said, ah, we're going to
Speaker 1: keep some of this virtual stuff in place, and potentially
Speaker 1: the draft. Again, nothing's been decided yet, but I think
Speaker 1: all those things are in play. So information is going
Speaker 1: to be tough to come by. Is might take of
Speaker 1: how it's going to unfold? You know, I wish the
Speaker 1: young guy from the Tennessee Titans would have taken the
Speaker 1: challenge by the GM as kind of a motivator and say,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna prove you wrong. I'm gonna show
Speaker 1: you exactly that you pick the right guy. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be more disciplined during the football season, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to be a productive football player during the season. And
Speaker 1: so I think nowadays you get a GM that challenges
Speaker 1: a young man because they see his upside, and then
Speaker 1: they now they want to be traded. What incentive is
Speaker 1: another team have to go out and get this guy
Speaker 1: if he always has already proved maybe to the GM
Speaker 1: that his work ethic and his work habits need to improve. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and how about that? The minute the GM challenged him,
Speaker 1: he writes on Twitter that he no longer wants to
Speaker 1: be a Tennessee Titans. So he basically quit, basically quit
Speaker 1: on his team. How many? How many other teams want that? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I was talking with Jason McKee today briefly,
Speaker 1: and it's just a different even he's not that far
Speaker 1: removed from the National Football League as a player when
Speaker 1: you think about it, and just how how quickly it
Speaker 1: has changed. And these guys have voices on Twitter and
Speaker 1: Instagram or whatever, and whether they're they're not able to
Speaker 1: stop from hitting send or it's truly how they're being positioned,
Speaker 1: how they feel or their agents are given the green
Speaker 1: light to do it. It's it's it's allowed cacophony of
Speaker 1: of of a lot of noise right now, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's everybody feels they can, you know, just say whatever
Speaker 1: and there's no repercussion. But for a guy like that,
Speaker 1: a first round pick, there's serious repercussion. And somebody, the
Speaker 1: young guy from Tennessee who they believe had enough ability
Speaker 1: to be evaluated to be a first rounder in the NFL.
Speaker 1: There's some elder statesman offensive lineman there that should bring
Speaker 1: this guy in their inner circle and say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: this is what we need out of you, because we
Speaker 1: need you to be the player in which the Tennessee
Speaker 1: Titans drafted you for. And if you come and play
Speaker 1: up to your athletics, him your dedication, you know you
Speaker 1: can help us be a major player in the league.
Speaker 1: You guys like timped there and Jim Miller to help too.
Speaker 1: To him a little bit. We're gonna take a break
Speaker 1: here on Bears All Access. Coming up at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the hour. Bill Shoey, the Bear's new outside linebackers coach,
Speaker 1: getting the promotion to that position here for twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: will join us with Jim and Tom. I'm Jeff Joniac.
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Speaker 1: little bit of a business because you know he's a
Speaker 1: Chicago guy now right, he's dropped anchor here, he's raising
Speaker 1: his family and some with a Pistons jersey on going
Speaker 1: back to his Detroit roots. Jim Miller, you know that's
Speaker 1: all good. But you know, Bulls are playing well, game
Speaker 1: under five hundred. Let's go. Oh, have plenty to talk
Speaker 1: about in Chicago, right, you know, got offseason here basketball.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's not to be fired up about. Jeff,
Speaker 1: You're in You're in your You're in your true medium
Speaker 1: right now, aren't you. Yes? Yes, So, Tim and I
Speaker 1: talked about in the first segment about the Wilson stuff
Speaker 1: today and the Deshaun You have anything to add? What
Speaker 1: do you How are you guys handicapping this whole situation? Well,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's I think, like you said, there's
Speaker 1: so much out there, like via social media and things
Speaker 1: that are being stated, whether it's by the player or
Speaker 1: by the player's agent. You know, to me, well, it's
Speaker 1: it's a good annalogy. It almost feels like the NBA,
Speaker 1: like players just want to talk themselves out of places,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's Jamal Adams last year talking his
Speaker 1: way out of New York. And here you have to
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson situation down there in Houston that came to
Speaker 1: a head. They had a meeting Friday. He told the
Speaker 1: new head coach to his face that he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to play for Houston anymore. Russell Wilson. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of and I love Russell Wilson. He's always, to me,
Speaker 1: been a classy guy. But what is Seattle not done
Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson. He got one hundred and forty million
Speaker 1: dollar contract, They've drafted fifteen offensive linement, They've been to
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls. They have just recently fired their offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator and hired a new one that they gave him,
Speaker 1: say in hiring Shane Waldron. And now he supposedly wants
Speaker 1: out of Seattle. I mean, I just don't get it.
Speaker 1: But it seems like it's more like the NBA that
Speaker 1: the players just want to drive where they want to play,
Speaker 1: and I'd be careful because the grass is not always greener.
Speaker 1: It really isn't. Yeah. I mean, that's that's the thing
Speaker 1: about Russell is the supporting cast they put around him,
Speaker 1: the type of head coach Pete Carroll, is the atmosphere
Speaker 1: he's created up there, the defensive personnel that they've been
Speaker 1: able to add keep in place and have as a
Speaker 1: supporting cast for him. You know, he's brought a lot
Speaker 1: of life to that city throughout his career, and you know,
Speaker 1: if there was a team out there that was suffering
Speaker 1: for a franchise quarterback but picked up his contract and
Speaker 1: then did not have the supporting cast to allow him
Speaker 1: to be you know, sacked less or you know, turn
Speaker 1: the offensive around like they've been able to do in
Speaker 1: Seattle and Seattle too. When you blow there and play
Speaker 1: in Seattle, it's almost a guaranteed win because of the
Speaker 1: viciousness of the crowd. I thought it was interesting. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys read that article in The Athletic.
Speaker 1: I did, and one of the quotes was that, you know,
Speaker 1: Russell was basically stating to the coaches like Hey man,
Speaker 1: I'm chasing the greats. When did this become about numbers?
Speaker 1: Isn't it about winning? That's what it's about. It's about
Speaker 1: winning games. All those numbers are going to fall into
Speaker 1: place if you're winning games and things like that. So
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I think it you come off,
Speaker 1: you know, and just have a bad taste in your
Speaker 1: mouth about you know what that conversation, those conversations were about,
Speaker 1: and you just view him a little bit different. I
Speaker 1: just my personal opinion, I thought it was somewhat selfish.
Speaker 1: That article that came out today and some of the
Speaker 1: quotes that were in there all right interest as well
Speaker 1: today from Tom Pealicero from NFL Network, a virtual meeting
Speaker 1: with nflpa's executive director to Morris Smith and the agents,
Speaker 1: imploring them if they have a free agent at one
Speaker 1: position the same position, collude literally collude and try to
Speaker 1: increase the leveraging contract talks because of the drop in
Speaker 1: the salary cap this year at least one eighty. It's
Speaker 1: gonna go up maybe another eight. Last year was one
Speaker 1: night too all dropping because of the pandemic. What is
Speaker 1: your initial reactions to both of that? To meet first, Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Jim good good time. Well, I mean it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, see even kind of contrived and start getting
Speaker 1: guys to have conversations about where they want to play,
Speaker 1: who do they want to play with, how much do
Speaker 1: they want to play for? And so the only one
Speaker 1: that's benefiting really is the agents themselves, because there's no
Speaker 1: guarantee that you're going to put a player in place
Speaker 1: that he's going to be a part of playoffs or
Speaker 1: super Bowl. And I think with Russell Wilson, if he
Speaker 1: wants to be moved, then he should be talking about
Speaker 1: a team that he's going to help get to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, because I think they're supporting Russell Wilson financially
Speaker 1: in with the personnel to try to try to get
Speaker 1: him to personnel or try to get him to Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: If you're telling these guys to sit there and collude
Speaker 1: and have conversations of how they can put a guy
Speaker 1: on a football team, when you talk about sixty guys,
Speaker 1: it's different than the basketball basketball teams being able to
Speaker 1: put two or three guys together with the supporting cast
Speaker 1: to allow them to get back in the playoff temple
Speaker 1: they're looking for. Yeah, I just don't get it at
Speaker 1: all to say that they didn't request to be traded,
Speaker 1: and then you list teams that can't even afford you
Speaker 1: the team that he needed. One of the teams in
Speaker 1: there where the Saints. The Saints have to slash two
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. They can't fit his thirty five million
Speaker 1: dollar contract in their financial budget right now. They haven't
Speaker 1: even decided what they're doing with through breeds. They've already
Speaker 1: cut him down to a million dollars for base salary
Speaker 1: in order. So, I mean, that's just flat out it
Speaker 1: doesn't even make sense to even bring up that team. Now.
Speaker 1: If he said New England or other teams out there
Speaker 1: to have cap space, yeah, I could believe that. That's
Speaker 1: why it's total to me, just misinformation that's being floated
Speaker 1: out there. A Jim we Gotta hit a break coming
Speaker 1: up on the other side. Be joined by Bill Showey,
Speaker 1: Bears new outside linebackers coach, It's Just Ahead here on
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Speaker 1: score our special guest tonight, Bears assistant coach Bill Showey,
Speaker 1: now the outside linebackers coach here in twenty twenty one. Bill,
Speaker 1: thanks for taking the time out. Appreciate you being on.
Speaker 1: How you feeling great, guys, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: Good to talk to you. First of all, Uh, you've
Speaker 1: done a lot. You've done a lot in your coaching career,
Speaker 1: and now to have a whole position to your own
Speaker 1: with Matt Naggie and his system here since twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: You've known him a long time. How does it feel?
Speaker 1: First and foremost, Oh, I'm blessed, guys. I'm I'm very fortunate.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to have the opportunity of looking forward to
Speaker 1: the challenges. If you could put in a word, what
Speaker 1: would be your coaching style? Or not one word, but
Speaker 1: just give me an example of what for those of
Speaker 1: those folks out there that may not know of you
Speaker 1: or your background. Sure, yeah, you know a lot of
Speaker 1: people talk about coaching being teaching, and that's That's how
Speaker 1: I would equate it too, And so you know that's
Speaker 1: part of my background prior to get into coaching, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know that's what that's what I try to do.
Speaker 1: You know, I take I take pride in and you know,
Speaker 1: trying to get the best out of each guys and
Speaker 1: each of the guys and and finding their strengths and
Speaker 1: keeping them strong and cultivating weaknesses to be you know,
Speaker 1: for guys to get better, and working with young guys
Speaker 1: and also with the veteran guys, and you know, finding
Speaker 1: a good a good a good culture, and you know,
Speaker 1: trying to make the most out of the room. You know.
Speaker 1: But my I would say that. You know, the one
Speaker 1: thing about me is you know I consider myself a
Speaker 1: teacher and that's why you know I find coaching a calling.
Speaker 1: You know, it was something I'll tell you a quick
Speaker 1: story is at one point in time, I tried as
Speaker 1: as I started to have my family, I tried to
Speaker 1: get I tried to step away from coaching because you know,
Speaker 1: the hours in coaching are not your normal, you know,
Speaker 1: nine to five hours, and you know, I knew it
Speaker 1: was going to be a challenge to raise a family
Speaker 1: and be a coach, and so I tried, But I
Speaker 1: gotta be honest with you, guys, it was something in
Speaker 1: my blood and it was something that I just thought
Speaker 1: I had to do. And I've been fortunate and blessed
Speaker 1: to be around a lot of good people and over
Speaker 1: the twenty some years that I've been coaching, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's always been about the people. Hey, Bill, Jeff
Speaker 1: talked a lot about your extensive background and colledge coaching.
Speaker 1: So and you've been in the NFL for quite a while.
Speaker 1: How does the coaching conversation change when you're teaching a
Speaker 1: college athlete to a pro athlete. That's a good question.
Speaker 1: I don't know that the conversation changes a whole lot
Speaker 1: because the one thing that you know, I've tried to
Speaker 1: do as as a coach. You know, some guys, some
Speaker 1: guys really focusing on the scheme part of coaching. Other
Speaker 1: guys are really strong on the fundamental aspect of a
Speaker 1: given position. And I've tried to do my best to
Speaker 1: be well versed in all of them, and I got along.
Speaker 1: You know, Obviously, everybody can improve, and I've got a
Speaker 1: long way to go in the various areas. But you know,
Speaker 1: That's the one thing I think that it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what level you're coaching at. It comes down to the
Speaker 1: ability to communicate with with people, to formula formulate relationships
Speaker 1: with them. And I'll tell you the common thread that
Speaker 1: I found is that if people know that you care
Speaker 1: about them and they believe that you that's the ability
Speaker 1: to make them better. You know they're going to buy
Speaker 1: in and it usually works out, you know, for the
Speaker 1: best for both sides. And you know, we bring out
Speaker 1: the best in each other, and at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, that's the goal, you know, to help the
Speaker 1: team move forward. Hey, coach Jim Miller here and thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us. Give us a few moments of your day.
Speaker 1: I thought I read a quote today from Arthur Smith,
Speaker 1: the new head coach of the Atlanta File, because I
Speaker 1: thought it was really interesting about last year about learning
Speaker 1: from every experience, and he also talked about the lessons
Speaker 1: he learned about the virtual world. You know what lessons
Speaker 1: learned from your aspect of how you just brought up
Speaker 1: teaching and communicating with young players of the challenges of
Speaker 1: this past year in twenty twenty that do you carry
Speaker 1: forward here in twenty twenty one, lessons you've learned. Sure,
Speaker 1: that's a good question, Jim. And and I think that
Speaker 1: you know, coach Smith is right on there. You know,
Speaker 1: learning from every experience is you know, that's if you
Speaker 1: can do that. Uh, you know that sufficiency in the
Speaker 1: learning process. And there were certain inherent challenges with the
Speaker 1: you know, you know, the virtual um you know meetings
Speaker 1: and that I mean because everybody learns differently, and so
Speaker 1: you know, the one thing you know, when you're teaching,
Speaker 1: you're trying to you're trying to teach to, you know,
Speaker 1: the guy that's at the top of the class and
Speaker 1: in a certain aspect, and also the guy that might
Speaker 1: be struggling with something. You got to keep everybody interested
Speaker 1: and engaged. And so you don't have as many options
Speaker 1: or maybe the options are different in the virtual world
Speaker 1: than they are maybe when you're hands on. You know,
Speaker 1: some guys that like to learn by doing, you didn't
Speaker 1: have that option. For the most part. You could take
Speaker 1: them through a quiz, and you could you could walk
Speaker 1: through certain film and ask them to explain things to you.
Speaker 1: But you couldn't stand there next to a guy and
Speaker 1: and and go through some things and have the eye
Speaker 1: to eye you know, enter that personal relationship when you're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out the nonverbals. Sometimes all you're looking
Speaker 1: at somebody's face in the way their body's moving as
Speaker 1: best you can. So I think there was some challenges
Speaker 1: there with the virtual coaching part of it, but you know,
Speaker 1: there were also some benefits. There were some some efficiencies
Speaker 1: that were gained in doing so. And so you know,
Speaker 1: you know they're in a perfect world. You'd rather be,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, you'd rather be face to face with somebody.
Speaker 1: That being said, you know you can you can make
Speaker 1: anything work. Bill Showey our guest here on Bears All
Speaker 1: Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The Score brought
Speaker 1: to you by IGS Enter, G Jeff, Jonny Accolong with
Speaker 1: Tom there, Jim Miller. Well, the virtual meetings, that's that's
Speaker 1: here to stay. It sounds like that was the word
Speaker 1: Wednesday from Commissioner Roger Goodell. So it'll be interesting. But
Speaker 1: I want to circle back a little bit because and
Speaker 1: Tom can attest to this, Jim can tested this. I
Speaker 1: love everybody's journey. I don't care if you're a player
Speaker 1: coach in this game. And for thirty plus years, I
Speaker 1: love finding out the journeys, and so doing a little
Speaker 1: bit more homework on you. This was a wrestler. A wait, wrestler,
Speaker 1: I might add in high school with no football, but
Speaker 1: then you go and play semi pro football. You get
Speaker 1: an internship at three Rivers Stadium. So that's not necessarily
Speaker 1: working for the Steelers. You're working for three River Stadium.
Speaker 1: You're a marketing intern in ninety nine with the Eagles,
Speaker 1: an assistant training camp coordinator. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: here's big Red. Andy Reid looked at that. He says, Wow,
Speaker 1: this guy's this guy's got got something. How the heck
Speaker 1: did this happen? Well, you did some bonework, chef. That
Speaker 1: was right, It was excellent. I'm telling you. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's you're at your your your background check is accurate.
Speaker 1: So last the last time I played I played ninth
Speaker 1: grade football. That was it. And like, you're right, I
Speaker 1: U I should say I played football and I was
Speaker 1: a ninth grade and I was a lightweight wrestler in
Speaker 1: high school in a in a very good wrestling area,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it just wasn't unfortunately. You know,
Speaker 1: I was a younger guy from my age, you know,
Speaker 1: I was I was seventeen when I went to college,
Speaker 1: and so, you know, it was it was what it was.
Speaker 1: I really had to work because I love football, you know.
Speaker 1: Growing up, I played you know, youth football, you know,
Speaker 1: for however many years. It was seven or eight years
Speaker 1: prior to that. You know, as soon as I could
Speaker 1: put the helmet on and we were bobbleheads back then,
Speaker 1: you know, I was doing that. And then you know,
Speaker 1: I took I took a break, you know, and I
Speaker 1: just kept working. So when my wrestling career was over,
Speaker 1: I just kept working. And it was always in the
Speaker 1: back of my mind, if I could ever build my
Speaker 1: body up, I'd love to give it another shot. And
Speaker 1: you know, I played briefly in college. When I transferred
Speaker 1: to Slippery Rock University, I played briefly, but um, you
Speaker 1: know that that didn't work out. Then when when I
Speaker 1: got out of college, it was probably the biggest I
Speaker 1: could possibly build my body up. And a friend of
Speaker 1: mine called me and said, you know, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go I'm going to go look at you know, I've
Speaker 1: got a call. I'm going to go out for this
Speaker 1: semi pro team. And I said, I said, well, let
Speaker 1: me know how it goes. And a week later, I was.
Speaker 1: I was interning at three of a stadium, like you said,
Speaker 1: and I was also working security for the Pirates at
Speaker 1: night because the internship I had was not paid, so
Speaker 1: I was matching around, just trying to make ends meet.
Speaker 1: And he called me a week later, and you know,
Speaker 1: we were talking about it, and partly I was living
Speaker 1: on his couch sometimes too, so we were talking about it,
Speaker 1: and he said, you should come look at it, and
Speaker 1: I said, if I go out there, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to look. So we grabbed up some equipment and went
Speaker 1: out there and it was like day one. You were
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma's and you know, guys were coming from all
Speaker 1: kinds of backgrounds to do that. It was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. And I did that for five or six
Speaker 1: years until until Andy pretty much told me. You know,
Speaker 1: he's like, Bill, if something happens and you get hurt,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to find somebody else to take your job.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to do that, so I'm asking
Speaker 1: you to please, you know, hang it up. And so
Speaker 1: I did. At that point, it took I would say,
Speaker 1: I didn't do it immediately. It took a little bit more,
Speaker 1: you know, coaxing from from coach read, but eventually I did.
Speaker 1: I loved it was a lot of fun. I met
Speaker 1: a lot of Again, it was about the people. You know,
Speaker 1: That's one of the things about football. It makes it
Speaker 1: such a great sport, you know, as the team sport
Speaker 1: truly is. And it was was about the people in
Speaker 1: the locker room and on the bus trips that we
Speaker 1: were taking and everything else. It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: And that's how I bet that was one of the
Speaker 1: things I think when I first met Andy, I was
Speaker 1: I was stocking refrigerators at training camp at Lehigh University
Speaker 1: in Bethlehem, and you know, he heard from from somebody,
Speaker 1: it could have been Sean McDermot or somebody that I
Speaker 1: was playing semi pro football when the Eagles were playing, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, away preseason games, and he we struck up
Speaker 1: a conversation and he found it interesting that I could
Speaker 1: spend so much time working at training camp and still
Speaker 1: find a way to play football. Hey Bill, you know,
Speaker 1: talking about your the extensive time that it takes to
Speaker 1: be a coach in the NFL, but then reading about
Speaker 1: all the different hats you wore Widener College, how did
Speaker 1: you teach yourself to use your time for each of
Speaker 1: those duties and how does it carry up into your
Speaker 1: NFL career. Yeah, that's so when I when I was
Speaker 1: at when I was at Widener, Uh, I was fortunate that,
Speaker 1: you know, the guy that was the head coach there
Speaker 1: was an offensive coach and I knew him. He was
Speaker 1: a scout for the Eagles at one point in time
Speaker 1: and he coached for the Eagles briefly, and so when
Speaker 1: he got the head coaching job at Widen there we
Speaker 1: had a couple of conversations. And when I went down there,
Speaker 1: I was a de coordinator. You know, we we had
Speaker 1: success right at the gate and it was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun and uh. But as as we kept moving forward,
Speaker 1: and I started to understand, you know, because there's there's
Speaker 1: a learning curve to everything. So I was starting to understand,
Speaker 1: you know, the recruiting at that level, how the academics
Speaker 1: fit in the time constraints of certain students, and the
Speaker 1: challenges that they faced. You know, I just felt that
Speaker 1: there was more I could do to help, and that
Speaker 1: was what I was, you know, I was always about
Speaker 1: trying to help young men, developed young men and also
Speaker 1: helped the team win. And I just felt there was
Speaker 1: more I could do to help, and that's what I
Speaker 1: pretty much said to him. I said, look, I think
Speaker 1: I see an area where I think I could bring value.
Speaker 1: What do you think? And every year I just kept
Speaker 1: batting another piece on and you know, I finally got
Speaker 1: to the point where he's like, He's like, Bill, you're
Speaker 1: doing everything you possibly can. And at the time, I
Speaker 1: still had some young kids back home, so it really
Speaker 1: came down to efficiency too. You know. I made sure
Speaker 1: like when we ran meetings, there was an agenda to
Speaker 1: every meeting, and everybody knew what the bullet points were
Speaker 1: and what the goals were for the meeting, and you know,
Speaker 1: we were we got in and out and guys knew
Speaker 1: that they had to be they had to pay attention,
Speaker 1: and they appreciated that approach, I think, and so we
Speaker 1: were able to get a lot done efficiently. And that's
Speaker 1: why I was able to do as much as I
Speaker 1: did there, you know, from recruiting coordinator to assistant special
Speaker 1: teams coordinator, defensive coordinator and I for a couple of
Speaker 1: those years I was able to walk around as a coordinator.
Speaker 1: But then you know that last year I was the
Speaker 1: secondary coach also well coach. We were just talking on
Speaker 1: the air before you joined us about you know, normally
Speaker 1: we'd be down at the combine watching guys work out
Speaker 1: and all the interviews and all that, and least free
Speaker 1: agencies around the corner. But you can watch tape on
Speaker 1: the on the free agents and actually see guys in games.
Speaker 1: And how challenging is that going to be this year
Speaker 1: because or what you can share with our listeners, are
Speaker 1: you even able to go out and work out any
Speaker 1: potential uh, you know, guys coming out of college this
Speaker 1: year and to get all the information you need to
Speaker 1: get a proper evaluation. It's my understanding Jim that the
Speaker 1: way that it works, like each team can have a
Speaker 1: maximum i think three guys at each pro day, and
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to work out like when when I
Speaker 1: was allowed to our push for the Eagles. You know,
Speaker 1: that was one of the things that we we like
Speaker 1: to do, Like you'd call guys up and get private
Speaker 1: workouts and you'd be able to have a dinner with
Speaker 1: them or something like that. Really, you know, get to
Speaker 1: know somebody as much as you can in a you know,
Speaker 1: a twelve hour twenty four hour period, you know, so
Speaker 1: now you've got to lean on there's always trust and
Speaker 1: you got to lean on some other guys in the
Speaker 1: organization for that because the film is the film. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And the benefit of that is you don't get sidetracked
Speaker 1: with some of the other things that you could that
Speaker 1: you would have to fight the earth from getting sidetracked
Speaker 1: on in that evaluation process at the combine and everything else.
Speaker 1: So that's a positive to it. But the downside is
Speaker 1: that you want to know about you know, you're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out the integrity of a guy, the work
Speaker 1: ethic of a guy, their ability to learn as you
Speaker 1: teach him something and you go back to it. And
Speaker 1: so you can do some of that on zoom interviews.
Speaker 1: But like I said, there's a little bit of the
Speaker 1: personal I mean that gets that gets lost when you're
Speaker 1: looking through a computer screen at somebody as opposed to
Speaker 1: eye to eye. So you know, there are ways around it.
Speaker 1: Like I said, you do get more focused on what
Speaker 1: you see on film, and that's going to be the approach.
Speaker 1: All right, Bell, one last question for it. Let you
Speaker 1: go and really appreciate again your time. I heard something
Speaker 1: yesterday from bulls Head coach Billy Donovan when Zach Levine
Speaker 1: was named as an All Star reserve and you know
Speaker 1: you got a superstar player. New head coach, great backgrounds
Speaker 1: coaching great players, and he used the advice given to
Speaker 1: him by another NBA coach in the years. It's all
Speaker 1: about for the player and for the coach to connect,
Speaker 1: especially a star player. And I'm thinking Khalil on this
Speaker 1: one for example, you're in that you're in that room
Speaker 1: outside linebackers coach the term voluntary cooperation, and that's got
Speaker 1: to come from the player to kind of send the
Speaker 1: message from the coach. Do you feel that your experience
Speaker 1: with the Eagles as a linebackers coach spent spent ten
Speaker 1: years there and your time already here these guys know
Speaker 1: you will ease that transition. Yeah, I think so. I
Speaker 1: mean that's that's one of the benefits of you know,
Speaker 1: being here for for the three years prior to this
Speaker 1: upcoming year that I've been here and and getting to
Speaker 1: know guys and really for those guys to get to
Speaker 1: know you. Uh. You know, relationships take time, and there
Speaker 1: are ways obviously to you know, depending on people's personality.
Speaker 1: You know, it makes it easier to make it to
Speaker 1: deal with some people when you know, depending on personalities
Speaker 1: but time has helped me. You know, with all those guys,
Speaker 1: we've got a great linebacker outside linebacker room, a linebacker
Speaker 1: room period. I mean, we got great linebackers on on
Speaker 1: the defense. Um, a lot of great players at all positions,
Speaker 1: but in the outside linebacker room we got great players.
Speaker 1: But we got really good people too, and so you know,
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to, you know, seeing what I
Speaker 1: can bring to the table to help, you know, some
Speaker 1: of the veteran, more established guys. I mean, Robert Quinn's,
Speaker 1: you know, an established player also in the league with
Speaker 1: a lot of career production. And the approach is going
Speaker 1: to have to be one where they're going to have
Speaker 1: to trust me, and that's something that we've built along
Speaker 1: the way, and I'm looking forward to working with them
Speaker 1: and helping them get better and try to maximize you know,
Speaker 1: what they've got. Bill, it was outstanding. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for sharing those stories. We look forward to talking
Speaker 1: to you soon. Great, great guys. I appreciate it. Y'all
Speaker 1: have a great night, all right, you too, Bill Shoey,
Speaker 1: Bears outside Linebackers coach kind enough to join us here.
Speaker 1: This is Bears All Access. Will take a break be
Speaker 1: back with Jim put some final comments from him. You're
Speaker 1: on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. They Bears
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Speaker 1: Go bets. Tom there, my broadcast partner from w BBM,
Speaker 1: and Jim Metal, former Bears quarterback in serious x MNFL
Speaker 1: radio host Moving the Chains with Pat Kerwin. I'll tell you,
Speaker 1: I just took a gander at Twitter and it's it's
Speaker 1: so blowing up about the whole Russell Wilson thing. People
Speaker 1: are coming up with ideas and how to get him here.
Speaker 1: What has to happen? I mean, this is what the
Speaker 1: NFL thrives on, and this is why it's the most
Speaker 1: popular sport and in this country anyway, and in many
Speaker 1: international places. I know soccer is the number one, but
Speaker 1: uh in in uh internationally, but boy, oh boy, oh boy,
Speaker 1: this is this is right up a football fans alley. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, if everybody we can dive into the rumor speculation.
Speaker 1: How about this? Seattle says, Uh, I've got Houdini because
Speaker 1: he's an escape artist. Because uh, that's what Tom brought
Speaker 1: up about all the sacks and how he's been scrambling
Speaker 1: for his life. And basically Deshaun Watson has the same issue.
Speaker 1: So we'll call him. Who's the other magician? Um not Whodini,
Speaker 1: Who's David Copperfield. We'll call it. We'll call him David Copperfield.
Speaker 1: We'll trade you Hudini for Copperfield, and I'll take your headache,
Speaker 1: you take my headache, and they'll now be both our headaches,
Speaker 1: just with different You imagine that one that would seem
Speaker 1: more more possible, right I think? So? I mean, if
Speaker 1: it gets to that point, because it's it's somewhat equal compensation,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you think? I mean you look at de Sean,
Speaker 1: he's a little bit younger. I mean, but you know
Speaker 1: it might as will throw our hat in the ring.
Speaker 1: How's that? Gentle? Will ask you? This is what is?
Speaker 1: What does Shaun Watson saying tarnishing the reputation of that
Speaker 1: organization where everybody knows Seattle is a great supporting organization
Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson and then going out and get Jamal
Speaker 1: and all that during the off season. So I think
Speaker 1: Seattle still has a really solid reputation amongst the layers
Speaker 1: where Deshaun you know, he's got a difference of opinion
Speaker 1: and even some of the things that JJ Watts said
Speaker 1: before the end of the regular season about some of
Speaker 1: these guys not playing as hard as what he is
Speaker 1: expected out of them. No, I agree. I do think
Speaker 1: that the hit is on the organization. He brought that
Speaker 1: up earlier time because you know, I don't know what
Speaker 1: kell McNair promised or said to Deshaun Watson, but it
Speaker 1: seems pretty evident that if he didn't follow through on it,
Speaker 1: that's how that relationship has deteriorated, along with some other
Speaker 1: things that are that have been going on there. So
Speaker 1: you know, I totally agree with that assessment. I think
Speaker 1: Houston is really the team with the with the black
Speaker 1: eye right now, you know, and how it's made them
Speaker 1: look and how things all the moves that have been made,
Speaker 1: and again, you can't make promises behind closed doors and
Speaker 1: not keep them, And it seems like that one why
Speaker 1: that's the reason why that has deteriorated so fast. The
Speaker 1: other one I'm with you. I think they have done
Speaker 1: everything they can to support Russell. They hate him. They
Speaker 1: drafted him, they named him the starter, they paid him,
Speaker 1: they tried to put weapons around him like DK metcalf
Speaker 1: or even this past year with Greg Olsen. They've done
Speaker 1: everything they can to support the player who they believe in. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, it'll be interesting how both these things shake out.
Speaker 1: Because they the more and more fired that are more
Speaker 1: and more fuel that keeps on being thrown on this fire.
Speaker 1: It just both looked like they're heading down the wrong path. No,
Speaker 1: no question, It's gonna be interesting, all right, Jim, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you go appreciate it as always. But you know,
Speaker 1: I thought I thought i'd seen it all right, because
Speaker 1: Tom Fair does not and will not ever unless he's
Speaker 1: forced to, I guess, and maybe even then, and that
Speaker 1: he will not go on social media yet. I just
Speaker 1: out of curiosity did a background check. I want to
Speaker 1: see because our previous guest was tutored in many respects
Speaker 1: by Jim Johnson, who is a Maywood product provides least
Speaker 1: and he was at Notre Dame with Tom, so I see,
Speaker 1: Welcome to Tommy Thair Online. It's an online official website
Speaker 1: of Tommy There, the lead guitarist of the legendary rock
Speaker 1: band Kiss Instead, but get a load of this story
Speaker 1: on the beaches of Conna Polli, tom take it away.
Speaker 1: He's staying at the same place that I'm staying in Hawaii,
Speaker 1: and I ran into him yesterday and some and someone
Speaker 1: that works at the hotel said, Hey, this is Tommy
Speaker 1: Thair from Kiss and he wanted to meet you. And
Speaker 1: so I've always I wanted to meet him too, because
Speaker 1: I heard of him, but I've never met him. So
Speaker 1: just so happens that we're staying in the same building,
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of feet apart from each other,
Speaker 1: and had a chance to talk. And he's really enamored
Speaker 1: about the broadcasting business. And we talked a lot about
Speaker 1: the Bears in football and such, and we said we
Speaker 1: get together later during the week and talk. But he
Speaker 1: said that he used to go by tom Thair and
Speaker 1: then when he got he joined Kiss in two thousand
Speaker 1: and two, then he started going by Tommy Fair to
Speaker 1: change it up a little, right, Well, that's what you
Speaker 1: should do. Though. You should have taken a picture there
Speaker 1: and that that's a picture. You're definitely gonna gain followers.
Speaker 1: You can push the send button on that one time.
Speaker 1: Send that picture out. Look. I look forward on Jeff
Speaker 1: Joni x Twitter or Cole Player this week because listen,
Speaker 1: if I had his head of hair at sixty years old,
Speaker 1: maybe I'd be in a rock band. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's it's it's lengthy. It's lengthy, and it's black.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't look sixty years old, Tom, and he's
Speaker 1: at Tom Tommy Underscore there on Twitter, so you can't
Speaker 1: even use that handle. He said, well, how old are you?
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I'll be sixty in August, and
Speaker 1: he goes, oh, I just turned sixty. And I'm looking
Speaker 1: at him and he looks great. You know, A rock
Speaker 1: and roll life hasn't been hard on him, and it
Speaker 1: definitely hasn't lost any hair because of it. Brothers from
Speaker 1: a different mother. All right, Jim, we'll talk to you
Speaker 1: next week. Appreciate it, buddy, he push informed. All right
Speaker 1: on all you get out of the doors. We'll do buddy.
Speaker 1: You guys have a good week. Jim Miller, I guest
Speaker 1: here on Bears All Access a couple of more minutes
Speaker 1: here with Tom Thare. I want to go back to
Speaker 1: Bill Shoey because all that experience and the one question,
Speaker 1: if we had time would be, hey, you know, tell
Speaker 1: me a story. Tell me a story about those those
Speaker 1: games in with the Pittsburgh Colts of the Grassroots Football
Speaker 1: League and the Lehigh Valley Panthers of the Colonial Football Alliance.
Speaker 1: These these leagues, these semi pro leagues are probably playing
Speaker 1: on horrible fields, and gosh knows what kind of people
Speaker 1: you meet, there's got to be a good story in there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can imagine his teammates smoking cigarettes in
Speaker 1: the locker room because when I first started playing in
Speaker 1: the USFL, we had guys that would run into the
Speaker 1: locker room to be able to you know, smoke at halftime,
Speaker 1: which you know, it was only a very few and
Speaker 1: far between, but when you're talking about a semi pro
Speaker 1: football league, I can imagine the you know, some of
Speaker 1: the surprisingly talented guys he saw that for some reason
Speaker 1: or other, they didn't make it to what, you know,
Speaker 1: the next level are some of the guys that were
Speaker 1: didn't really look the part, but we're really hard hitting,
Speaker 1: good football players. It were that, you know, you got
Speaker 1: to do a story on, Yeah, because it's an ring
Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, we need to hear more about uh,
Speaker 1: you know, coach Bill Showey and his semi professional football
Speaker 1: league experience a good stuff, all right. Before we wrap
Speaker 1: things up here, virtual meetings now become standard in the NFL.
Speaker 1: We're not going to have his money in person meetings
Speaker 1: when we get back. That's a direct quote from Roger
Speaker 1: Goodell at the NFL Women's Careers in Football Forum this week. Quote.
Speaker 1: I think technology is something we have embraced and will
Speaker 1: make us better. So this is the tug of war
Speaker 1: I feel will happen because players, Okay, maybe they'll get
Speaker 1: tired of the zoom thing. There's there's a thing now,
Speaker 1: I know we heard it on WBB at zoom burnout
Speaker 1: right or the coaches want to teach face to face.
Speaker 1: So the tug of war there. But Goodell is saying that,
Speaker 1: you know this is going to be here to stay,
Speaker 1: no matter if the pandemic eases or not. Well, I
Speaker 1: think it's going to be more challenging for the coaches
Speaker 1: than it is the players because there's a certain sense
Speaker 1: of commitment by players have when you see what their
Speaker 1: efforts are in the weight room and stuff. But it's
Speaker 1: gonna be hard getting that point across as a coach,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. I don't know if you could have
Speaker 1: handled it. I think you need to be face to face.
Speaker 1: You need to see the guy in the eyes. Right
Speaker 1: hey man, I'd be living, I'd be fighting for my
Speaker 1: job every day, big time. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: time there, Jim Miller and our special guest Bill Showey
Speaker 1: and our producer Adamsinski. Thanks for listening to everybody. This
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