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<v Speaker 1>Dan Burreli and Jordan Trudup. The lineup tonight includes the

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<v Speaker 1>following Big Jim Meller joining the program coming up at

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<v Speaker 1>six oz eight for a few segments as he does

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<v Speaker 1>our weekly guest from Serious XM NFL Radio and the

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<v Speaker 1>former Bears quarterback off Things NFL. He's got the Wide View,

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<v Speaker 1>and then refocus a little bit on your Chicago Bears

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<v Speaker 1>with a visit from Bill Shoey, the new Outside linebackers coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Been with the organization for a while now, since twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>a long and interesting coaching career. He'll be our guests

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<v Speaker 1>coming up at the bottom of the hour. Good evening,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom There, Hey, what's new, buddy? What is new? What

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<v Speaker 1>is new? Oh? Nothing? Just excited to be uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>watching the wires, the conversation about the NFL, the different

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<v Speaker 1>elements of the league they're talking about, the players trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get involved in the conversations and their own team speculation,

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<v Speaker 1>where big free agents are going to go, and the

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<v Speaker 1>real the NFL year hasn't even gotten under way yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is never you never starved for a topic

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<v Speaker 1>with the you know, whether it be the Bears or

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<v Speaker 1>just the NFL in general. And honestly, it's that way

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<v Speaker 1>every year, big time. And you know what to what

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<v Speaker 1>are you referring to today? I mean, really, what really

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<v Speaker 1>came across the wire today? It's guess what quarterback conversations

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<v Speaker 1>We've already seen Matthew Stafford, movies seen Carson Wentz, Jason

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, Jared Goff and now the constant drama what

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be around Deshaun Watson. According to ESPN meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with the new head coach, David Cutting says, Hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sticking to my guns. I don't want to play

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<v Speaker 1>for you. So now what now what? Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he necessarily doesn't want to play for the new

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<v Speaker 1>head coach. He doesn't want to play for the organization. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it's really tough for you bringing

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<v Speaker 1>a head coach and he takes a job, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>excited because he has a franchise quarterback that could be

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<v Speaker 1>there for another decade, and you think of one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most important building blocks. But you know, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like right now all a lot of the players that

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<v Speaker 1>are free agents are unhappy in what's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>themselves and their organizations. Hey, you know, it's they have

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<v Speaker 1>the talent. They have the ability to go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and say, look, I want to go elsewhere. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's the best thing for the NFL, But

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<v Speaker 1>that's just the world that we live in today. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>has an opinion about where all these quarterbacks are going to.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you got the agent force heat a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson. This is the one that stirred up Twitter today,

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<v Speaker 1>not demanding a trade. According to his agent, Mark Rogers,

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<v Speaker 1>telling Adam Schefter of ESPN, wants to remain in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're if you're thinking about moving me, there

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<v Speaker 1>are only poor places I want to go. One of

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<v Speaker 1>them is Chicago, one, Dallas, New Orleans, and Vegas. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is what's coming out of that camp. There seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be some bad blood blurret brillin there in some

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<v Speaker 1>former fashion because it's been several weeks of this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of constant conversation now about Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what's the You know, it's in some of

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<v Speaker 1>the disagreement with Russell Wilson as he talks about he's

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<v Speaker 1>been sacked three hundred and ninety four times throughout a

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<v Speaker 1>period in Seattle, and then he talks he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>have a hand within the personnel decisions. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a player's right. I think the players should

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<v Speaker 1>play the game. And um, you know the unfortunate way

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<v Speaker 1>the times that he holds the ball a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>longer than possibly he should, because he has great faith,

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<v Speaker 1>in great trust in his athleticism, sometimes it does result

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<v Speaker 1>in a sack. So, man, I think if the most

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<v Speaker 1>important position on the team isn't focused about the team.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really it could it could have some bad circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>to go along with him if he's only thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>what he can do, not necessarily what he should be doing. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he has been hit a lot, he has

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<v Speaker 1>been sacked a lot. There are many factors. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>they've drafted a bunch of offensive linemen for a period

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<v Speaker 1>of time, there as many as any team in the

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<v Speaker 1>National Football League. They did get some terrific receiving weapons,

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<v Speaker 1>and he helped make some of those weapons better players

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<v Speaker 1>because of his ability. So it's an interesting cross section

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<v Speaker 1>of thoughts and it's a it's it's immovable objects. Here

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<v Speaker 1>you got you got a veteran head coach and Pete Carroll.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta now a veteran quarterback Russell Wilson that Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>drafted in the middle rounds to uh in a very

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<v Speaker 1>impactful ways, has risen to the challenge of not being

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<v Speaker 1>a first round pick. But you know, I have great

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<v Speaker 1>admiration for Russell Wilson. I think every time you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to watch him on TV or he plays

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<v Speaker 1>against the Bears, his athleticism how well physically conditioned he is,

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<v Speaker 1>how he can make an old defensive player look old

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter. So you know what, whatever he's

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<v Speaker 1>capable of doing, I admire what he's already put down

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of his early career template. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a great deal of confidence in himself that

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<v Speaker 1>he can do the same thing if it is in

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle or if it is not in Seattle. Another nugget

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<v Speaker 1>today this week, I should say, not just today, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting a Jim Miller here and just just a

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<v Speaker 1>bit that Corey Linsley feels like he's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be back with the Green Bay Packers. Considered by many

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<v Speaker 1>one of, if not the best center in football. He's

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<v Speaker 1>turning thirty in July. But again, this is all salary

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<v Speaker 1>cap related. You know, things are happening around every roster.

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<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be a ton of at Denver today releasing

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<v Speaker 1>a five time Pro Bowl defensive tackle and Dull Casey, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with Lindsley and even Bakiar. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to be considered one of the best players

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<v Speaker 1>at your position when you play in front of Aaron Rodgers. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you put these players on different teams. And we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it throughout Peyton Manning's career where there's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>guy that I've gotten free agent opportunities with teams that

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<v Speaker 1>had lesser supporting cast and they never lived up to

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<v Speaker 1>the same role that they showed what they had the

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<v Speaker 1>ability when they were playing behind in front of Peyton Manning.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think when you talk about the best center

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, you better just you know, temper that

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. He's a good player, but he's got

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best quarterbacks in the history of the

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<v Speaker 1>game behind him. Yeah, it happens at multiple positions. That

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<v Speaker 1>could think of many wide receivers that were a number

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<v Speaker 1>at two and number three and then they had a

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<v Speaker 1>great year because of the attention paid to their number one,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he goes out in the free agent market

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<v Speaker 1>and never lives up to that building. Or a great

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<v Speaker 1>pass rusher is on one side and the other guy's

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<v Speaker 1>getting all the benefit because this guy's getting double team.

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<v Speaker 1>Then now he becomes a high price free agent. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's all very interesting. We'll discuss with Jim Miller here

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<v Speaker 1>on Bears All Access after a first time out here

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<v Speaker 1>on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the score. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>With Tom There, I'm Jeff, Joni act, Big Jim. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back this week. How you feeling. I'm doing great, Jeff, Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>always gonna be with you guys. So quiet though right now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this's just it's way too quiet in the NFL. I

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<v Speaker 1>just not enough's going on, not enough conversation. What the heck? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and when's it gonna heat up? Jim, Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna start heat well. Teams are still figuring out.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of I'm being I'm being facetious because

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<v Speaker 1>every minute there's some new rumor. Well, yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of well we call this the protest season. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of you know, players protesting about where

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<v Speaker 1>they want to be and where they want to go

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want the tag and all these type

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<v Speaker 1>of things, and yeah, there's a lot of speculation and

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<v Speaker 1>in rumor, and some are just thrown out there because

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<v Speaker 1>there's really nothing to write about right now. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think teams are trying to figure out what they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do in the next week or so. Probably in

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<v Speaker 1>the next ten days, you're going to see a blood

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<v Speaker 1>letting of players around the NFL. There is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like right now, Pat and I went through it,

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<v Speaker 1>there's over five hundred free agents that are out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's over twenty free age and running backs

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<v Speaker 1>at that position alone. There's over forty defensive backs that

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<v Speaker 1>are out there. You just mentioned Durell Casey, he's on

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<v Speaker 1>the market. There literally will be over seven hundred free

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<v Speaker 1>age and guys that are on the market here in

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<v Speaker 1>the next ten days. There is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>huge blood letting of teams that need to clear up

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<v Speaker 1>some cap space. Look at Denver by releasing a j

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<v Speaker 1>Bouyer and Joe Casey, they just got twenty four million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars back on their salary, GiB twenty four million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>What can you do with that money? And that's where

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<v Speaker 1>teams are really looking at right now, so that they

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<v Speaker 1>can clear up and get in this free agent market

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<v Speaker 1>as much as they can. I have a question for

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<v Speaker 1>both of you guys. If Trevor Lawrence wasn't such a

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<v Speaker 1>sure thing, would we be talking more about the first

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<v Speaker 1>couple picks of the draft, because it seems like we're

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<v Speaker 1>only talking about free agency. And that's the veteran side

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Where up unto this point, the three of

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<v Speaker 1>us may have had three or four conversations about the

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<v Speaker 1>combine and about the draft, but it just seems like

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's just you know, hey, Trevor Lawrence is going to

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<v Speaker 1>go here, and then let's see where everybody else falls into. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll the way in first, because Jim, there is no combine,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're not there. We're talking about guy, because ordinarily

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<v Speaker 1>we'd be at the combine, we'll be getting together, we'd

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about everything that transpired over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>the week and what's going to happen next week or

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<v Speaker 1>who's gonna run this. Yeah, it's it's oddly different and

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<v Speaker 1>most of my fat I mean, I started strong right

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<v Speaker 1>when the playoffs started, getting ready for the draft and

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<v Speaker 1>starting that process, but I've shifted now to free agency.

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<v Speaker 1>For what you just said, to have that many people

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<v Speaker 1>out on the free market. I mean, it's I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a veteran right now. Well here, Here's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'd say is, but those are known commodities. These

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<v Speaker 1>guys coming out in the draft are not. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody can say, oh, you're the jetsitude they should take

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Wilson out there at BYU or Justin Fields or

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<v Speaker 1>you name the quarterback. I mean, I just don't see

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<v Speaker 1>that happening. Again. The guys that are out there are

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<v Speaker 1>known commodities, and you're gonna be potentially drafting a player

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<v Speaker 1>that you even that opted out last year. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some guys like I just interviewed Rousseau the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Miami pass rusher. That guy's only played one season,

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<v Speaker 1>one season of games that you're going and people get

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<v Speaker 1>met at the Bears, mister Bisky only at thirteen starts.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's got less than Mitch Wow, and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>draft him. Tommy Vant I want to hear both of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys in this. You know, I know how you are. Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about ball. So and granted there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys you know you're going through your list

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<v Speaker 1>and these are top guys that chose to avoid injury

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<v Speaker 1>or for personal reasons to not play at their colleges

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<v Speaker 1>in the pandemic circumstance. Are you gonna look at those

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<v Speaker 1>guys differently despite their great talent? No, I know I would,

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I kind of frown upon guys like the

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco guy that sits out because he was injured

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<v Speaker 1>in college and then he doesn't have a lengthy track

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<v Speaker 1>record of being durable Nick Bosa. So he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>that track record of staying healthy through multiple seasons in

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<v Speaker 1>college where he had to stop playing a senior year,

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<v Speaker 1>then he got injured as a rookie, then he got

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<v Speaker 1>injured as a second year guy. Some of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that sat out just because of the uncertainty of the

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<v Speaker 1>COVID are are they coming in to be a starter?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there's more pressure on them coming in

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<v Speaker 1>to be a starter because of some of the free

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<v Speaker 1>agents that are not being signed. Jim, put your scouting

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<v Speaker 1>cap on. How do you feel? How are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to evaluate those guys? Yeah? I think one teams are

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<v Speaker 1>evaluating differently and this year is going to be even

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<v Speaker 1>more challenging. Again, That's why I think you'll see more

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<v Speaker 1>guys drafted from the recess Senior Bowl because at least

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<v Speaker 1>you got to see them play in an all star

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<v Speaker 1>game where you could watch a wee week of practices

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<v Speaker 1>of the top talent going against each other. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying these guys are going to be rusty. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>certain guys are going to be rusty. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>it showed down in Mobile that guys could quickly get

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<v Speaker 1>back and involved because there were opt out guys that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, really showed and really flashed and

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<v Speaker 1>got their sea legs under them pretty quickly, and that

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<v Speaker 1>they will be able to rebound and they will be

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<v Speaker 1>able to contribute. But again, there's just so much less

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<v Speaker 1>tape that you can watch on these guys as as

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<v Speaker 1>we've just mentioned. So if we already thought that raft

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<v Speaker 1>was a fifty fifty crapshoot case in point Isaiah Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>we all see what happens with him with Tennessee right now,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy hasn't even been with the team ten months.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a first round draft pick, and he's already on

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<v Speaker 1>the block to be traded. Granted, he had some off

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<v Speaker 1>the field. He actually had more incidents off the field

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<v Speaker 1>than snaps that he played for the Tennessee Titans. So

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<v Speaker 1>you better do your due diligence because the information is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be easy to come by because all

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<v Speaker 1>these numbers, heights, weights, forty times ten yards, splits watching

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<v Speaker 1>him work out, you may not even have be able

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<v Speaker 1>to have a personal workout with a player. Are we

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<v Speaker 1>able to even take all thirty guys? Every team's able

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<v Speaker 1>to invite thirty guys to the facility? Is that even

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<v Speaker 1>possible here? Even Roger Goodell said, ah, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep some of this virtual stuff in place, and potentially

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. Again, nothing's been decided yet, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>all those things are in play. So information is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be tough to come by. Is might take of

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<v Speaker 1>how it's going to unfold? You know, I wish the

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<v Speaker 1>young guy from the Tennessee Titans would have taken the

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<v Speaker 1>challenge by the GM as kind of a motivator and say,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm gonna prove you wrong. I'm gonna show

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<v Speaker 1>you exactly that you pick the right guy. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be more disciplined during the football season, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a productive football player during the season. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think nowadays you get a GM that challenges

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<v Speaker 1>a young man because they see his upside, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they now they want to be traded. What incentive is

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<v Speaker 1>another team have to go out and get this guy

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<v Speaker 1>if he always has already proved maybe to the GM

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<v Speaker 1>that his work ethic and his work habits need to improve. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and how about that? The minute the GM challenged him,

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<v Speaker 1>he writes on Twitter that he no longer wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be a Tennessee Titans. So he basically quit, basically quit

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<v Speaker 1>on his team. How many? How many other teams want that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was talking with Jason McKee today briefly,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just a different even he's not that far

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<v Speaker 1>removed from the National Football League as a player when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it, and just how how quickly it

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<v Speaker 1>has changed. And these guys have voices on Twitter and

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram or whatever, and whether they're they're not able to

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<v Speaker 1>stop from hitting send or it's truly how they're being positioned,

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<v Speaker 1>how they feel or their agents are given the green

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<v Speaker 1>light to do it. It's it's it's allowed cacophony of

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<v Speaker 1>of of a lot of noise right now, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's everybody feels they can, you know, just say whatever

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no repercussion. But for a guy like that,

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<v Speaker 1>a first round pick, there's serious repercussion. And somebody, the

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<v Speaker 1>young guy from Tennessee who they believe had enough ability

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<v Speaker 1>to be evaluated to be a first rounder in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some elder statesman offensive lineman there that should bring

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<v Speaker 1>this guy in their inner circle and say, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what we need out of you, because we

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<v Speaker 1>need you to be the player in which the Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>Titans drafted you for. And if you come and play

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<v Speaker 1>up to your athletics, him your dedication, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>can help us be a major player in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys like timped there and Jim Miller to help too.

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<v Speaker 1>To him a little bit. We're gonna take a break

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<v Speaker 1>here on Bears All Access. Coming up at the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the hour. Bill Shoey, the Bear's new outside linebackers coach,

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<v Speaker 1>getting the promotion to that position here for twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>will join us with Jim and Tom. I'm Jeff Joniac.

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a business because you know he's a

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago guy now right, he's dropped anchor here, he's raising

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<v Speaker 1>his family and some with a Pistons jersey on going

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<v Speaker 1>back to his Detroit roots. Jim Miller, you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>all good. But you know, Bulls are playing well, game

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<v Speaker 1>under five hundred. Let's go. Oh, have plenty to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about in Chicago, right, you know, got offseason here basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's not to be fired up about. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>You're in You're in your You're in your true medium

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<v Speaker 1>right now, aren't you. Yes? Yes, So, Tim and I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in the first segment about the Wilson stuff

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<v Speaker 1>today and the Deshaun You have anything to add? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you How are you guys handicapping this whole situation? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's I think, like you said, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much out there, like via social media and things

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<v Speaker 1>that are being stated, whether it's by the player or

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<v Speaker 1>by the player's agent. You know, to me, well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good annalogy. It almost feels like the NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>like players just want to talk themselves out of places,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whether it's Jamal Adams last year talking his

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<v Speaker 1>way out of New York. And here you have to

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Watson situation down there in Houston that came to

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<v Speaker 1>a head. They had a meeting Friday. He told the

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<v Speaker 1>new head coach to his face that he doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to play for Houston anymore. Russell Wilson. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of and I love Russell Wilson. He's always, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>been a classy guy. But what is Seattle not done

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<v Speaker 1>for Russell Wilson. He got one hundred and forty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar contract, They've drafted fifteen offensive linement, They've been to

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<v Speaker 1>two Super Bowls. They have just recently fired their offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator and hired a new one that they gave him,

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<v Speaker 1>say in hiring Shane Waldron. And now he supposedly wants

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<v Speaker 1>out of Seattle. I mean, I just don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it seems like it's more like the NBA that

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<v Speaker 1>the players just want to drive where they want to play,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd be careful because the grass is not always greener.

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<v Speaker 1>It really isn't. Yeah. I mean, that's that's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about Russell is the supporting cast they put around him,

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<v Speaker 1>the type of head coach Pete Carroll, is the atmosphere

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<v Speaker 1>he's created up there, the defensive personnel that they've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to add keep in place and have as a

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<v Speaker 1>supporting cast for him. You know, he's brought a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of life to that city throughout his career, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if there was a team out there that was suffering

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<v Speaker 1>for a franchise quarterback but picked up his contract and

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<v Speaker 1>then did not have the supporting cast to allow him

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<v Speaker 1>to be you know, sacked less or you know, turn

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive around like they've been able to do in

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle and Seattle too. When you blow there and play

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<v Speaker 1>in Seattle, it's almost a guaranteed win because of the

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<v Speaker 1>viciousness of the crowd. I thought it was interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you guys read that article in The Athletic.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, and one of the quotes was that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Russell was basically stating to the coaches like Hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm chasing the greats. When did this become about numbers?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it about winning? That's what it's about. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>winning games. All those numbers are going to fall into

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<v Speaker 1>place if you're winning games and things like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know. I think it you come off,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and just have a bad taste in your

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<v Speaker 1>mouth about you know what that conversation, those conversations were about,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just view him a little bit different. I

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<v Speaker 1>just my personal opinion, I thought it was somewhat selfish.

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<v Speaker 1>That article that came out today and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>quotes that were in there all right interest as well

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<v Speaker 1>today from Tom Pealicero from NFL Network, a virtual meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with nflpa's executive director to Morris Smith and the agents,

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<v Speaker 1>imploring them if they have a free agent at one

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<v Speaker 1>position the same position, collude literally collude and try to

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<v Speaker 1>increase the leveraging contract talks because of the drop in

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<v Speaker 1>the salary cap this year at least one eighty. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go up maybe another eight. Last year was one

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<v Speaker 1>night too all dropping because of the pandemic. What is

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<v Speaker 1>your initial reactions to both of that? To meet first, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Jim good good time. Well, I mean it's just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, see even kind of contrived and start getting

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<v Speaker 1>guys to have conversations about where they want to play,

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<v Speaker 1>who do they want to play with, how much do

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<v Speaker 1>they want to play for? And so the only one

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<v Speaker 1>that's benefiting really is the agents themselves, because there's no

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee that you're going to put a player in place

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<v Speaker 1>that he's going to be a part of playoffs or

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl. And I think with Russell Wilson, if he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be moved, then he should be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a team that he's going to help get to the

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl, because I think they're supporting Russell Wilson financially

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<v Speaker 1>in with the personnel to try to try to get

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<v Speaker 1>him to personnel or try to get him to Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're telling these guys to sit there and collude

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<v Speaker 1>and have conversations of how they can put a guy

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<v Speaker 1>on a football team, when you talk about sixty guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's different than the basketball basketball teams being able to

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<v Speaker 1>put two or three guys together with the supporting cast

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<v Speaker 1>to allow them to get back in the playoff temple

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking for. Yeah, I just don't get it at

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<v Speaker 1>all to say that they didn't request to be traded,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you list teams that can't even afford you

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<v Speaker 1>the team that he needed. One of the teams in

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<v Speaker 1>there where the Saints. The Saints have to slash two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollars. They can't fit his thirty five million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar contract in their financial budget right now. They haven't

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<v Speaker 1>even decided what they're doing with through breeds. They've already

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<v Speaker 1>cut him down to a million dollars for base salary

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<v Speaker 1>in order. So, I mean, that's just flat out it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't even make sense to even bring up that team. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>If he said New England or other teams out there

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<v Speaker 1>to have cap space, yeah, I could believe that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's total to me, just misinformation that's being floated

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<v Speaker 1>out there. A Jim we Gotta hit a break coming

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<v Speaker 1>up on the other side. Be joined by Bill Showey,

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<v Speaker 1>Bears new outside linebackers coach, It's Just Ahead here on

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<v Speaker 1>All Access here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to

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<v Speaker 1>score our special guest tonight, Bears assistant coach Bill Showey,

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<v Speaker 1>now the outside linebackers coach here in twenty twenty one. Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for taking the time out. Appreciate you being on.

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<v Speaker 1>How you feeling great, guys, Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to talk to you. First of all, Uh, you've

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<v Speaker 1>done a lot. You've done a lot in your coaching career,

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<v Speaker 1>and now to have a whole position to your own

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<v Speaker 1>with Matt Naggie and his system here since twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>You've known him a long time. How does it feel?

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<v Speaker 1>First and foremost, Oh, I'm blessed, guys. I'm I'm very fortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to have the opportunity of looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>the challenges. If you could put in a word, what

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<v Speaker 1>would be your coaching style? Or not one word, but

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<v Speaker 1>just give me an example of what for those of

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<v Speaker 1>those folks out there that may not know of you

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<v Speaker 1>or your background. Sure, yeah, you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people talk about coaching being teaching, and that's That's how

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<v Speaker 1>I would equate it too, And so you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of my background prior to get into coaching, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's what that's what I try to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I take I take pride in and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get the best out of each guys and

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<v Speaker 1>each of the guys and and finding their strengths and

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<v Speaker 1>keeping them strong and cultivating weaknesses to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for guys to get better, and working with young guys

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<v Speaker 1>and also with the veteran guys, and you know, finding

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<v Speaker 1>a good a good a good culture, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make the most out of the room. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>But my I would say that. You know, the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing about me is you know I consider myself a

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<v Speaker 1>teacher and that's why you know I find coaching a calling.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was something I'll tell you a quick

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<v Speaker 1>story is at one point in time, I tried as

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<v Speaker 1>as I started to have my family, I tried to

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<v Speaker 1>get I tried to step away from coaching because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the hours in coaching are not your normal, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nine to five hours, and you know, I knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be a challenge to raise a family

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<v Speaker 1>and be a coach, and so I tried, But I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be honest with you, guys, it was something in

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<v Speaker 1>my blood and it was something that I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do. And I've been fortunate and blessed

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<v Speaker 1>to be around a lot of good people and over

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty some years that I've been coaching, Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's always been about the people. Hey, Bill, Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>talked a lot about your extensive background and colledge coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>So and you've been in the NFL for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 1>How does the coaching conversation change when you're teaching a

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<v Speaker 1>college athlete to a pro athlete. That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that the conversation changes a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>because the one thing that you know, I've tried to

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<v Speaker 1>do as as a coach. You know, some guys, some

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<v Speaker 1>guys really focusing on the scheme part of coaching. Other

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<v Speaker 1>guys are really strong on the fundamental aspect of a

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<v Speaker 1>given position. And I've tried to do my best to

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<v Speaker 1>be well versed in all of them, and I got along.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Obviously, everybody can improve, and I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>long way to go in the various areas. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one thing I think that it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>what level you're coaching at. It comes down to the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to communicate with with people, to formula formulate relationships

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<v Speaker 1>with them. And I'll tell you the common thread that

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<v Speaker 1>I found is that if people know that you care

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<v Speaker 1>about them and they believe that you that's the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to make them better. You know they're going to buy

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<v Speaker 1>in and it usually works out, you know, for the

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<v Speaker 1>best for both sides. And you know, we bring out

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<v Speaker 1>the best in each other, and at the end of

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the day, that's the goal, you know, to help the

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<v Speaker 1>team move forward. Hey, coach Jim Miller here and thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us. Give us a few moments of your day.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I read a quote today from Arthur Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>the new head coach of the Atlanta File, because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was really interesting about last year about learning

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<v Speaker 1>from every experience, and he also talked about the lessons

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<v Speaker 1>he learned about the virtual world. You know what lessons

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<v Speaker 1>learned from your aspect of how you just brought up

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<v Speaker 1>teaching and communicating with young players of the challenges of

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<v Speaker 1>this past year in twenty twenty that do you carry

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<v Speaker 1>forward here in twenty twenty one, lessons you've learned. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good question, Jim. And and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, coach Smith is right on there. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>learning from every experience is you know, that's if you

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<v Speaker 1>can do that. Uh, you know that sufficiency in the

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<v Speaker 1>learning process. And there were certain inherent challenges with the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, the virtual um you know meetings

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and that I mean because everybody learns differently, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the one thing you know, when you're teaching,

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to you're trying to teach to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that's at the top of the class and

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<v Speaker 1>in a certain aspect, and also the guy that might

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<v Speaker 1>be struggling with something. You got to keep everybody interested

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<v Speaker 1>and engaged. And so you don't have as many options

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe the options are different in the virtual world

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 1>than they are maybe when you're hands on. You know,

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 1>some guys that like to learn by doing, you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have that option. For the most part. You could take

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>them through a quiz, and you could you could walk

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<v Speaker 1>through certain film and ask them to explain things to you.

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<v Speaker 1>But you couldn't stand there next to a guy and

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<v Speaker 1>and and go through some things and have the eye

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<v Speaker 1>to eye you know, enter that personal relationship when you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out the nonverbals. Sometimes all you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at somebody's face in the way their body's moving as

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>best you can. So I think there was some challenges

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<v Speaker 1>there with the virtual coaching part of it, but you know,

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>there were also some benefits. There were some some efficiencies

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>that were gained in doing so. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they're in a perfect world. You'd rather be,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, you'd rather be face to face with somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, you know you can you can make

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<v Speaker 1>anything work. Bill Showey our guest here on Bears All

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<v Speaker 1>Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The Score brought

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>to you by IGS Enter, G Jeff, Jonny Accolong with

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<v Speaker 1>Tom there, Jim Miller. Well, the virtual meetings, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>here to stay. It sounds like that was the word

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday from Commissioner Roger Goodell. So it'll be interesting. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want to circle back a little bit because and

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Tom can attest to this, Jim can tested this. I

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<v Speaker 1>love everybody's journey. I don't care if you're a player

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>coach in this game. And for thirty plus years, I

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>love finding out the journeys, and so doing a little

0:28:55.800 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>bit more homework on you. This was a wrestler. A wait, wrestler,

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<v Speaker 1>I might add in high school with no football, but

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 1>then you go and play semi pro football. You get

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<v Speaker 1>an internship at three Rivers Stadium. So that's not necessarily

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>working for the Steelers. You're working for three River Stadium.

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>You're a marketing intern in ninety nine with the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 1>an assistant training camp coordinator. And oh, by the way,

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>here's big Red. Andy Reid looked at that. He says, Wow,

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>this guy's this guy's got got something. How the heck

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>did this happen? Well, you did some bonework, chef. That

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<v Speaker 1>was right, It was excellent. I'm telling you. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's you're at your your your background check is accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>So last the last time I played I played ninth

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>grade football. That was it. And like, you're right, I

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>U I should say I played football and I was

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<v Speaker 1>a ninth grade and I was a lightweight wrestler in

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<v Speaker 1>high school in a in a very good wrestling area,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, it just wasn't unfortunately. You know,

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I was a younger guy from my age, you know,

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I was I was seventeen when I went to college,

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<v Speaker 1>and so, you know, it was it was what it was.

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I really had to work because I love football, you know.

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Growing up, I played you know, youth football, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for however many years. It was seven or eight years

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>prior to that. You know, as soon as I could

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<v Speaker 1>put the helmet on and we were bobbleheads back then,

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was doing that. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I took I took a break, you know, and I

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>just kept working. So when my wrestling career was over,

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I just kept working. And it was always in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of my mind, if I could ever build my

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<v Speaker 1>body up, I'd love to give it another shot. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I played briefly in college. When I transferred

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<v Speaker 1>to Slippery Rock University, I played briefly, but um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that that didn't work out. Then when when I

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>got out of college, it was probably the biggest I

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<v Speaker 1>could possibly build my body up. And a friend of

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 1>mine called me and said, you know, I'm going to

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>go I'm going to go look at you know, I've

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>got a call. I'm going to go out for this

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>semi pro team. And I said, I said, well, let

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<v Speaker 1>me know how it goes. And a week later, I was.

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I was interning at three of a stadium, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was also working security for the Pirates at

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<v Speaker 1>night because the internship I had was not paid, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was matching around, just trying to make ends meet.

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<v Speaker 1>And he called me a week later, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about it, and partly I was living

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<v Speaker 1>on his couch sometimes too, so we were talking about it,

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>and he said, you should come look at it, and

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I said, if I go out there, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to look. So we grabbed up some equipment and went

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:17.959
<v Speaker 1>out there and it was like day one. You were

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>in Oklahoma's and you know, guys were coming from all

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>kinds of backgrounds to do that. It was a lot

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>of fun. And I did that for five or six

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<v Speaker 1>years until until Andy pretty much told me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, Bill, if something happens and you get hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to find somebody else to take your job.

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to do that, so I'm asking

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>you to please, you know, hang it up. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I did. At that point, it took I would say,

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do it immediately. It took a little bit more,

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, coaxing from from coach read, but eventually I did.

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I loved it was a lot of fun. I met

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Again, it was about the people. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the things about football. It makes it

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>such a great sport, you know, as the team sport

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>truly is. And it was was about the people in

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room and on the bus trips that we

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>were taking and everything else. It was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how I bet that was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things I think when I first met Andy, I was

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I was stocking refrigerators at training camp at Lehigh University

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>in Bethlehem, and you know, he heard from from somebody,

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>it could have been Sean McDermot or somebody that I

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>was playing semi pro football when the Eagles were playing, uh,

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, away preseason games, and he we struck up

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 1>a conversation and he found it interesting that I could

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>spend so much time working at training camp and still

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>find a way to play football. Hey Bill, you know,

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about your the extensive time that it takes to

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>be a coach in the NFL, but then reading about

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>all the different hats you wore Widener College, how did

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<v Speaker 1>you teach yourself to use your time for each of

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.959
<v Speaker 1>those duties and how does it carry up into your

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>NFL career. Yeah, that's so when I when I was

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<v Speaker 1>at when I was at Widener, Uh, I was fortunate that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the guy that was the head coach there

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>was an offensive coach and I knew him. He was

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>a scout for the Eagles at one point in time

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and he coached for the Eagles briefly, and so when

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>he got the head coaching job at Widen there we

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of conversations. And when I went down there,

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I was a de coordinator. You know, we we had

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>success right at the gate and it was a lot

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>of fun and uh. But as as we kept moving forward,

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and I started to understand, you know, because there's there's

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>a learning curve to everything. So I was starting to understand,

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, the recruiting at that level, how the academics

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>fit in the time constraints of certain students, and the

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 1>challenges that they faced. You know, I just felt that

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:40.239
<v Speaker 1>there was more I could do to help, and that

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>was what I was, you know, I was always about

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to help young men, developed young men and also

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 1>helped the team win. And I just felt there was

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>more I could do to help, and that's what I

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>pretty much said to him. I said, look, I think

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I see an area where I think I could bring value.

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>What do you think? And every year I just kept

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>batting another piece on and you know, I finally got

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to the point where he's like, He's like, Bill, you're

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 1>doing everything you possibly can. And at the time, I

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.359
<v Speaker 1>still had some young kids back home, so it really

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 1>came down to efficiency too. You know. I made sure

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>like when we ran meetings, there was an agenda to

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.879
<v Speaker 1>every meeting, and everybody knew what the bullet points were

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>and what the goals were for the meeting, and you know,

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>we were we got in and out and guys knew

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>that they had to be they had to pay attention,

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and they appreciated that approach, I think, and so we

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>were able to get a lot done efficiently. And that's

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>why I was able to do as much as I

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 1>did there, you know, from recruiting coordinator to assistant special

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>teams coordinator, defensive coordinator and I for a couple of

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>those years I was able to walk around as a coordinator.

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:42.320
<v Speaker 1>But then you know that last year I was the

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>secondary coach also well coach. We were just talking on

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the air before you joined us about you know, normally

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>we'd be down at the combine watching guys work out

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and all the interviews and all that, and least free

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>agencies around the corner. But you can watch tape on

0:34:56.560 --> 0:35:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the on the free agents and actually see guys in games.

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>And how challenging is that going to be this year

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>because or what you can share with our listeners, are

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 1>you even able to go out and work out any

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>potential uh, you know, guys coming out of college this

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>year and to get all the information you need to

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 1>get a proper evaluation. It's my understanding Jim that the

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 1>way that it works, like each team can have a

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>maximum i think three guys at each pro day, and

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you're not allowed to work out like when when I

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 1>was allowed to our push for the Eagles. You know,

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that was one of the things that we we like

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to do, Like you'd call guys up and get private

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>workouts and you'd be able to have a dinner with

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>them or something like that. Really, you know, get to

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 1>know somebody as much as you can in a you know,

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>a twelve hour twenty four hour period, you know, so

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 1>now you've got to lean on there's always trust and

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 1>you got to lean on some other guys in the

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 1>organization for that because the film is the film. Yeah,

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>And the benefit of that is you don't get sidetracked

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>with some of the other things that you could that

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you would have to fight the earth from getting sidetracked

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.919
<v Speaker 1>on in that evaluation process at the combine and everything else.

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 1>So that's a positive to it. But the downside is

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 1>that you want to know about you know, you're trying

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to figure out the integrity of a guy, the work

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 1>ethic of a guy, their ability to learn as you

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>teach him something and you go back to it. And

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 1>so you can do some of that on zoom interviews.

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>But like I said, there's a little bit of the

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 1>personal I mean that gets that gets lost when you're

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>looking through a computer screen at somebody as opposed to

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>eye to eye. So you know, there are ways around it.

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, you do get more focused on what

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.320
<v Speaker 1>you see on film, and that's going to be the approach.

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>All right, Bell, one last question for it. Let you

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:36.439
<v Speaker 1>go and really appreciate again your time. I heard something

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:39.760
<v Speaker 1>yesterday from bulls Head coach Billy Donovan when Zach Levine

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>was named as an All Star reserve and you know

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you got a superstar player. New head coach, great backgrounds

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>coaching great players, and he used the advice given to

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 1>him by another NBA coach in the years. It's all

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>about for the player and for the coach to connect,

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 1>especially a star player. And I'm thinking Khalil on this

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 1>one for example, you're in that you're in that room

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 1>outside linebackers coach the term voluntary cooperation, and that's got

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>to come from the player to kind of send the

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:11.879
<v Speaker 1>message from the coach. Do you feel that your experience

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 1>with the Eagles as a linebackers coach spent spent ten

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 1>years there and your time already here these guys know

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>you will ease that transition. Yeah, I think so. I

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>mean that's that's one of the benefits of you know,

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 1>being here for for the three years prior to this

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 1>upcoming year that I've been here and and getting to

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 1>know guys and really for those guys to get to

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>know you. Uh. You know, relationships take time, and there

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 1>are ways obviously to you know, depending on people's personality.

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, it makes it easier to make it to

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 1>deal with some people when you know, depending on personalities

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>but time has helped me. You know, with all those guys,

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>we've got a great linebacker outside linebacker room, a linebacker

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 1>room period. I mean, we got great linebackers on on

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the defense. Um, a lot of great players at all positions,

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>but in the outside linebacker room we got great players.

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 1>But we got really good people too, and so you know,

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm really looking forward to, you know, seeing what I

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>can bring to the table to help, you know, some

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 1>of the veteran, more established guys. I mean, Robert Quinn's,

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, an established player also in the league with

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of career production. And the approach is going

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 1>to have to be one where they're going to have

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 1>to trust me, and that's something that we've built along

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:24.959
<v Speaker 1>the way, and I'm looking forward to working with them

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and helping them get better and try to maximize you know,

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:32.279
<v Speaker 1>what they've got. Bill, it was outstanding. Thank you so

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 1>much for sharing those stories. We look forward to talking

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 1>to you soon. Great, great guys. I appreciate it. Y'all

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:40.240
<v Speaker 1>have a great night, all right, you too, Bill Shoey,

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Bears outside Linebackers coach kind enough to join us here.

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:44.800
<v Speaker 1>This is Bears All Access. Will take a break be

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>back with Jim put some final comments from him. You're

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 1>on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. They Bears

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0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:10.840
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0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>radio host Moving the Chains with Pat Kerwin. I'll tell you,

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I just took a gander at Twitter and it's it's

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:21.399
<v Speaker 1>so blowing up about the whole Russell Wilson thing. People

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>are coming up with ideas and how to get him here.

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>What has to happen? I mean, this is what the

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 1>NFL thrives on, and this is why it's the most

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>popular sport and in this country anyway, and in many

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 1>international places. I know soccer is the number one, but

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>uh in in uh internationally, but boy, oh boy, oh boy,

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>this is this is right up a football fans alley. Well,

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if everybody we can dive into the rumor speculation.

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 1>How about this? Seattle says, Uh, I've got Houdini because

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.879
<v Speaker 1>he's an escape artist. Because uh, that's what Tom brought

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>up about all the sacks and how he's been scrambling

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 1>for his life. And basically Deshaun Watson has the same issue.

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 1>So we'll call him. Who's the other magician? Um not Whodini,

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Who's David Copperfield. We'll call it. We'll call him David Copperfield.

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 1>We'll trade you Hudini for Copperfield, and I'll take your headache,

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you take my headache, and they'll now be both our headaches,

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 1>just with different You imagine that one that would seem

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 1>more more possible, right I think? So? I mean, if

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:28.439
<v Speaker 1>it gets to that point, because it's it's somewhat equal compensation,

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you think? I mean you look at de Sean,

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 1>he's a little bit younger. I mean, but you know

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>it might as will throw our hat in the ring.

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 1>How's that? Gentle? Will ask you? This is what is?

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 1>What does Shaun Watson saying tarnishing the reputation of that

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:48.839
<v Speaker 1>organization where everybody knows Seattle is a great supporting organization

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:52.360
<v Speaker 1>for Russell Wilson and then going out and get Jamal

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 1>and all that during the off season. So I think

0:40:55.600 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Seattle still has a really solid reputation amongst the layers

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 1>where Deshaun you know, he's got a difference of opinion

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.799
<v Speaker 1>and even some of the things that JJ Watts said

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 1>before the end of the regular season about some of

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>these guys not playing as hard as what he is

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 1>expected out of them. No, I agree. I do think

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that the hit is on the organization. He brought that

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:19.799
<v Speaker 1>up earlier time because you know, I don't know what

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 1>kell McNair promised or said to Deshaun Watson, but it

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 1>seems pretty evident that if he didn't follow through on it,

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that's how that relationship has deteriorated, along with some other

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>things that are that have been going on there. So

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I totally agree with that assessment. I think

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Houston is really the team with the with the black

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>eye right now, you know, and how it's made them

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:45.280
<v Speaker 1>look and how things all the moves that have been made,

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 1>and again, you can't make promises behind closed doors and

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 1>not keep them, And it seems like that one why

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 1>that's the reason why that has deteriorated so fast. The

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>other one I'm with you. I think they have done

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>everything they can to support Russell. They hate him. They

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 1>drafted him, they named him the starter, they paid him,

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:07.360
<v Speaker 1>they tried to put weapons around him like DK metcalf

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:10.359
<v Speaker 1>or even this past year with Greg Olsen. They've done

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>everything they can to support the player who they believe in. So,

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it'll be interesting how both these things shake out.

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Because they the more and more fired that are more

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and more fuel that keeps on being thrown on this fire.

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>It just both looked like they're heading down the wrong path. No,

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 1>no question, It's gonna be interesting, all right, Jim, I'm

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna let you go appreciate it as always. But you know,

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought I thought i'd seen it all right, because

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 1>Tom Fair does not and will not ever unless he's

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 1>forced to, I guess, and maybe even then, and that

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>he will not go on social media yet. I just

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:44.360
<v Speaker 1>out of curiosity did a background check. I want to

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 1>see because our previous guest was tutored in many respects

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.399
<v Speaker 1>by Jim Johnson, who is a Maywood product provides least

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.919
<v Speaker 1>and he was at Notre Dame with Tom, so I see,

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Tommy Thair Online. It's an online official website

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 1>of Tommy There, the lead guitarist of the legendary rock

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:06.800
<v Speaker 1>band Kiss Instead, but get a load of this story

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 1>on the beaches of Conna Polli, tom take it away.

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>He's staying at the same place that I'm staying in Hawaii,

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and I ran into him yesterday and some and someone

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that works at the hotel said, Hey, this is Tommy

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Thair from Kiss and he wanted to meet you. And

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.320
<v Speaker 1>so I've always I wanted to meet him too, because

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I heard of him, but I've never met him. So

0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 1>just so happens that we're staying in the same building,

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, a couple of feet apart from each other,

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 1>and had a chance to talk. And he's really enamored

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>about the broadcasting business. And we talked a lot about

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the Bears in football and such, and we said we

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:49.759
<v Speaker 1>get together later during the week and talk. But he

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.759
<v Speaker 1>said that he used to go by tom Thair and

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>then when he got he joined Kiss in two thousand

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and two, then he started going by Tommy Fair to

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>change it up a little, right, Well, that's what you

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 1>should do. Though. You should have taken a picture there

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>and that that's a picture. You're definitely gonna gain followers.

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>You can push the send button on that one time.

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Send that picture out. Look. I look forward on Jeff

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Joni x Twitter or Cole Player this week because listen,

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 1>if I had his head of hair at sixty years old,

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:23.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'd be in a rock band. Yeah. I mean

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, it's it's it's lengthy. It's lengthy, and it's black.

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:28.799
<v Speaker 1>And he doesn't look sixty years old, Tom, and he's

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:32.879
<v Speaker 1>at Tom Tommy Underscore there on Twitter, so you can't

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>even use that handle. He said, well, how old are you?

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:37.719
<v Speaker 1>And I said, well, I'll be sixty in August, and

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>he goes, oh, I just turned sixty. And I'm looking

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 1>at him and he looks great. You know, A rock

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:45.360
<v Speaker 1>and roll life hasn't been hard on him, and it

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 1>definitely hasn't lost any hair because of it. Brothers from

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 1>a different mother. All right, Jim, we'll talk to you

0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 1>next week. Appreciate it, buddy, he push informed. All right

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:58.240
<v Speaker 1>on all you get out of the doors. We'll do buddy.

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 1>You guys have a good week. Jim Miller, I guest

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.360
<v Speaker 1>here on Bears All Access a couple of more minutes

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<v Speaker 1>here with Tom Thare. I want to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Shoey because all that experience and the one question,

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<v Speaker 1>if we had time would be, hey, you know, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me a story. Tell me a story about those those

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<v Speaker 1>games in with the Pittsburgh Colts of the Grassroots Football

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<v Speaker 1>League and the Lehigh Valley Panthers of the Colonial Football Alliance.

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<v Speaker 1>These these leagues, these semi pro leagues are probably playing

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<v Speaker 1>on horrible fields, and gosh knows what kind of people

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<v Speaker 1>you meet, there's got to be a good story in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can imagine his teammates smoking cigarettes in

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room because when I first started playing in

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<v Speaker 1>the USFL, we had guys that would run into the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room to be able to you know, smoke at halftime,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, it was only a very few and

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<v Speaker 1>far between, but when you're talking about a semi pro

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<v Speaker 1>football league, I can imagine the you know, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the surprisingly talented guys he saw that for some reason

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<v Speaker 1>or other, they didn't make it to what, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the next level are some of the guys that were

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really look the part, but we're really hard hitting,

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<v Speaker 1>good football players. It were that, you know, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to do a story on, Yeah, because it's an ring

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<v Speaker 1>the season. Yeah, we need to hear more about uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, coach Bill Showey and his semi professional football

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<v Speaker 1>league experience a good stuff, all right. Before we wrap

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<v Speaker 1>things up here, virtual meetings now become standard in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to have his money in person meetings

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<v Speaker 1>when we get back. That's a direct quote from Roger

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<v Speaker 1>Goodell at the NFL Women's Careers in Football Forum this week. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>I think technology is something we have embraced and will

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<v Speaker 1>make us better. So this is the tug of war

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<v Speaker 1>I feel will happen because players, Okay, maybe they'll get

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<v Speaker 1>tired of the zoom thing. There's there's a thing now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we heard it on WBB at zoom burnout

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<v Speaker 1>right or the coaches want to teach face to face.

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<v Speaker 1>So the tug of war there. But Goodell is saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this is going to be here to stay,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter if the pandemic eases or not. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be more challenging for the coaches

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<v Speaker 1>than it is the players because there's a certain sense

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<v Speaker 1>of commitment by players have when you see what their

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<v Speaker 1>efforts are in the weight room and stuff. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be hard getting that point across as a coach,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be interesting. I don't know if you could have

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<v Speaker 1>handled it. I think you need to be face to face.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to see the guy in the eyes. Right

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<v Speaker 1>hey man, I'd be living, I'd be fighting for my

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<v Speaker 1>job every day, big time. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>time there, Jim Miller and our special guest Bill Showey

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<v Speaker 1>and our producer Adamsinski. Thanks for listening to everybody. This

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