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Speaker 2: We're back in your absolute facehole December nineteenth of the

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Speaker 2: this is the best damn combat sports duo since Lorenzo

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Speaker 2: and Frank, Mandy and Nina, Cheyenne and JP. Well, maybe

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Speaker 2: not that one. Hey, it's Morning Combat. Welcome in Brian

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Speaker 2: Campbell live and direct from the Hartford, Connecticut suburbs. Your

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Speaker 2: C is the best damn combat sports analyst in the

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Speaker 2: game today, Luke, Franklin, Thomas and lt. Today is the

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Speaker 2: day judgment day for Jake Paul. I don't mean to,

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Speaker 2: you know, put the idea of death on the table

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Speaker 2: with a smile. But what the hell's gonna happen tonight?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, but probably death for

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Speaker 2: You know, it is what it is in the end,

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Speaker 2: all right. And by the way, this episode of Morning

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Speaker 2: Let's be well, not completely, but it's that is in

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Speaker 2: of course to the fantastic third member of our team,

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Speaker 2: a bawling, enthusiastic producer, a director, a podcaster in his

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Speaker 4: Uh that comment about the BCX got me, Luke, I

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Speaker 2: Look quick. Shout out to the UFC's John Gooden, who

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Speaker 2: for you today. We are We're gonna preview all things Jake, Paul, Anthony, Joshua,

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Speaker 2: It's time for topic number one tonight, Netflix the Casia

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Speaker 2: Center in Miami. No, it's not going to be Drivante

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Speaker 2: And from all of the typical comparative metrics like size, strength, speed, athleticism, experience,

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Speaker 2: to interrupt you, Luke, is if this happened, would you

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Speaker 1: There is no good reason for Jake Paul to win. None.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying this, but I'm gonna say I think

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Speaker 2: You know, you mean fixed. I'm not saying it.

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Speaker 1: And so the unusualness of it is exactly people tempted.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming in there and I'm coming on his a.

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Speaker 1: he cares about. So, like, I'm not saying there won't

433
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Speaker 1: be moments where he doesn't bite down the mouthpiece and swings.

434
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: I think that there will be, But I would be very,

435
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: very surprised if he just, you know, I'm just gonna

436
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 1: charge across and we're gonna go. I think he's gonna

437
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: be here and on his bike for it long stretches

438
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: of however long that fight lasts.

439
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: Anyway, I mean, like he has been sparring with absolutely

440
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 2: legit heavyweights, for Sanchez being one of them will give

441
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 2: him a black eye. There's reports coming out of those

442
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,239
Speaker 2: that you know, Jake's done well in those. I mean,

443
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: who knows whatever all I know is.

444
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean that means absolutely dude, people of combat sports

445
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: will believe any bullshit that comes from Andy's Oh that

446
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: the word is that the sparring was good? What was

447
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: it ever gonna be?

448
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 2: I mean, look, and the difference is whatever power Jake

449
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: has showed in the past has always come against opponents

450
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: where he has a built in advantage of either age, size,

451
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 2: power or even boxing experience. For how little boxing experience

452
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: he has, when he finally fought somebody of his own

453
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: size and of his own experience, and that's of course

454
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: Tommy Fury, he lost to a jab and hold strategy,

455
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: all be it by split decision, and he dropped Fury

456
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: in the final round. But still that's the truth. So

457
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: this is like a bridge too far beyond the bridge

458
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,239
Speaker 2: that's too far beyond the other bridge. Luke the I mean,

459
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: I don't know? Wow, So uh, this is what I mean.

460
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: Listen mathematically, is it possible, Yes, it is possible. You

461
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: have to have some humility about all of this, but

462
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: this is definitely not a thing that should happen, like,

463
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: definitely not.

464
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: I agree. So AJ was asked by my colleague at

465
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: CBS Sports, Sequille MAJORI this week about like what's a

466
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: win for you and what's a loss? And AJ was

467
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 2: honest he said, obviously, if I lose, it's, you know,

468
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: the biggest upset ever, it's a huge debacle. He goes,

469
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: if we go the distance, that's a huge loss for me.

470
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 2: And AJ even went as far as saying, if it

471
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: gets out of round one, it's a huge loss for me. Luke,

472
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: the current DraftKings odds on total rounds and this kind

473
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: of surprised me. Over two and a half is minus

474
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 2: one forty five. Under two and a half is plus

475
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 2: one ten. If this goes more than a round, is

476
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: that a fail for AJ? Or are you of the

477
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 2: belief that Jake, with his size and the mini experience

478
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: he does have, could potentially survive even if he's doing

479
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: fighting a completely negative style, well for maybe even three rounds.

480
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: I'll say this. I'll say this if someone, particularly in

481
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: striking arts, if someone has respectable defense, and I'm not

482
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: sure if Jake has respectable defense or not, to be

483
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: honest with you, but let's just assume that he does

484
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: and they're not really interested in fighting for example BC

485
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: for example, very different scenario, but there's a lesson to

486
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: be learned the first fight between Jiron Ennis and Krnen

487
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 1: what was his last name, Jugasan ju goos On Jew

488
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: Gazan was not there to win. He was absolutely there

489
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: to survive. When someone fights like that, it is actually

490
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: very hard to look good against them. You'll win because

491
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: they're legitimately not trying to win, but it's actually it's

492
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: kind of tough. Now Chukos on BC. He is a

493
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: lot better than Jake Paul and Jon Ennis is obviously,

494
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, a very different thing than Anthony Joshua too,

495
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: but it's a similar kind of lesson. Like, dude, if Jake,

496
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if he can hang on BC.

497
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: But if he's having success circling, clinching, covering, you know

498
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, like just really just not even trying

499
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: to really throw back, I could see him lasting potentially

500
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: a little while. But you know, I you have to

501
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: imagine Joshua and his team are ready for this, right

502
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: you have to imagine that they're gonna have to be

503
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: preparing for a guy who's the ring is going to

504
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: have to be cut off on him a little bit.

505
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: And so I don't know how long I dude, I mean,

506
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: we'll get to the predictions in a minute, but I'd

507
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: be surprised if this goes past round three. That's my right,

508
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, I.

509
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: Wonder where the win is within an almost guaranteed loss

510
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: for Jake? Is the win getting to round four? Is

511
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: the win? Going out on your shield? You know what

512
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean? Like, what is the win here? And obviously

513
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: there's that other half of what long Island Luke mentioned

514
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: how so many people think that this stuff is stage,

515
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: that there's some sort of nda contractual agreement that you know,

516
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: you can beat me but not knock me out or

517
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: what have you. I'm certainly not pushing that forward, but

518
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: have some of his fights been weird or wonky enough

519
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: that you can make that claim? Heck, people make that

520
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: claim in regular boxing all the damn time, Right, every

521
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: close decision is a robbery where some promoter paid it off.

522
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: And by the way, they might be true. You never no,

523
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: you never know. There were some back and forth that

524
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: really illustrate what AJ's true intention is heading into this fight,

525
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: if we can believe his words, and his words were

526
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: so damn spicy enough. Yeah, BC got a hello. I'd

527
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: like to talk to the people who invented tequila. Yeah, Cuervo.

528
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 2: Shots Fired. This shots fired, of course, brought to you

529
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: by Cuervo. Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila

530
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: that invented tequila. Here's Anthony Joshua at Wednesday's press conference,

531
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: not pulling any punches about the punches he plans to deliver.

532
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: Is there any that going zero up on me?

533
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 6: And even that is Jake, It's just you know, I

534
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 6: was actually looking at myself today. I'm a very respectful guy,

535
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 6: brought by a good family. But if I can kill you,

536
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 6: I will kill you. That's just how I am. And

537
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 6: this is just a job I do. So let's go

538
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 6: carrying boxing on my back. I've done it with you

539
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 6: in Garnu fight, and I'm gonna do it again. I

540
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 6: understand the expectation. I don't carry it because the expectation

541
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 6: I have of myself is already enough. But I understand it,

542
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 6: I acknowledge it, and I respect it.

543
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: Look, here is something you can't understand. Who's willing to

544
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: kill a man tonight? What do you make of those

545
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: heavy comments?

546
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I am I allowed to say I'm a

547
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: little worried for Jake Baul.

548
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: Yes you are, Yes you are, sir. I mean it

549
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: feels like, Look, remember people put up a stink for

550
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: McGregor Mayweather, McGregor making the argument that, like McGregor not

551
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: rained or skilled enough to fight this guy, he could

552
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: get seriously hurt. Yet we're talking about a lifelong martial

553
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: artist in McGregor who also grew up boxing. We're talking

554
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: about Jake Paul has been boxing for five years, and

555
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: he's not fighting Gervonte Davis where we're arguing maybe he

556
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: still gets caught. He's fighting one of the most destructive

557
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: heavyweights of this century.

558
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: And a dominant puncher, an athletic, dominant puncher. B See,

559
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: we should talk about this. How much do you feel

560
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: like Anthony Joshua being a little chinny is a relevant

561
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: factor to consider here?

562
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: I don't think it is, because I don't actually think

563
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: he's all that chinny. Okay, but let me take that,

564
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: let me let me, let me put this in proper context.

565
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: Did he get upset and stop by and by Andy Ruiz? Yes,

566
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: he did. I also feel the opponent change the American

567
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: debut Madison Square Garden and the fact that he got

568
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: rocked with an equilibrium shot after dropping Ruiz and then

569
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: tried his best for four rounds to hang around and

570
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: brawl until it just overcame him. I don't think that

571
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: means he's chinny. He's always been a guy who was

572
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: obviously not a boxer to begin with, kind of came

573
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: to the sport late. Still won an Olympic gold medal,

574
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: But even in his prime, he was learning on the job.

575
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: He was trying to be not just muscular in boxy,

576
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: but trying to be a legitimate boxer puncher, and he

577
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: became that. He was also vulnerable to certain shots. But

578
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: there's a difference, I think between being vulnerable and being chinny.

579
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: He didn't lose to Usik because he had a bad chin.

580
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: He got out box spot twice by one of the

581
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: greatest fighters in the history of this sport. And I

582
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: don't think he lost to Dubois by being chinny. He

583
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: showed an insane warrior's heart kept getting up. In fact,

584
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: he had Dubois hurt in the round about fifteen seconds

585
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: before he got sent to Hell. I'm not gonna sit

586
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: here and try to believe that, even at thirty six,

587
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: is he is the best he's ever been. No, but

588
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: he ain't chinny. And on the way out, Luke be

589
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: very honest about this.

590
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: Your your knowledge of this is better than mine. I don't.

591
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't utterly dismiss it. I don't completely

592
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: say it's irrelevant, but I just feel like, I mean, dude,

593
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: we you know the rules every fight, someone's gotta punch,

594
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: someone's got a puncher's chance, and and Jake does two here,

595
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: But it feels like bro. I mean, rarely do we

596
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: ever get fights where I look at it and I'm like, no, literally,

597
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: the only thing he has is a puncher's chance. That

598
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: is the case here. This is the most puncher's chance

599
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 1: fight I've ever seen, because there's nothing else you can

600
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: point to as a reason to have enthusiasm about Jake

601
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 1: Paul's chances, not merely of winning BC but straight up

602
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: like not getting stretchered out of the of the ring.

603
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: If I'm being honest with you, so this is like

604
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: the most emblematic of I mean, you gotta shot. It's

605
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: like it's like the longest shot I've ever That's crazy.

606
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: Well, those comments using the word kill from AJ did

607
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: you know rile up? Some people who thought that was

608
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: being too real are going too far. One of those

609
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: people is former heavyweight champion Tyson Fury, who we know

610
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: according to Mike Coppinger of Ring Magazine, that Riad season

611
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: Turkey Ala Sheikha is planning finally to give us that

612
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: historic All England showdown between AJ and Fury in late

613
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. They were both going to have interim fights,

614
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: even another one for AJ after this. But here's Tyson

615
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: Fury in the car with about seven of his family

616
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: members at the front seat, telling it like he sees

617
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: it about AJ and what AJ's trying to do.

618
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 7: Just pick the kids up from school on a schoolroom Paris.

619
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: And the kids.

620
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 7: I've just been sent the video of Anti Joshua talking

621
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 7: about if he kills somebody, he kills somebody in a

622
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 7: boxing ring.

623
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 6: I'm a very respectful guy, brought up by a good family.

624
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 6: But if I can kill you, oh kill you.

625
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: You know what.

626
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 7: He's a little bit longer the tape to talking shit

627
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 7: like that. It's thirty seven year old at the end

628
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 7: of his career, fighting a YouTuber, a Disney Channel guy

629
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 7: who Tommy b and now he's talking about killing him

630
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 7: and all that to try and sell. Please back them

631
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 7: the wrong tree, idiot. Here's a fun fact. If I

632
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 7: ever come across you bomb, I'm knocking you get spark out.

633
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 7: I ain't YouTuber or a man arfeusize, I am him

634
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 7: the man. You're a classless loser coming off at fifteen

635
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,239
Speaker 7: months knock out defeat to a local lad. Imagine if

636
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 7: someone from Marcum knock me out, you big bomb, useless

637
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 7: tossa get up, and I can't wait if Jake Paul

638
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 7: knocks you spark out, you big bomb.

639
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,239
Speaker 2: Well, I guess that's stirring the pod to get us

640
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: ready for the end of twenty twenty six. But look,

641
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: are there spirits of what fur He's trying to say

642
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: that you agree with, because don't forget that video we

643
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: played earlier of aj. One thing he said is I'm

644
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: carrying boxing with this fight, just like I did with

645
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: Innghan who when in reality, although at the time we

646
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: weren't really sure who in god who was, we kind

647
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: of thought maybe maybe he could do the same thing

648
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: to Joshua that he did to Fury. You look back

649
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: now and you're like, Okay, that's two circus fights in

650
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: your last three and oh, by the way, whether this

651
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: is related or not. Ariel Hawani last night at his

652
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 2: Uncrowned Live show, in Miami broke the news that if

653
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: AJ wins or you know, tonight or when he based

654
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: on how we believe that he's going to make a

655
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: call out for his next fight, and that the opponent

656
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: is out of left field, which to me probably means

657
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: something like maybe andre Ward, maybe a cruiserweight coming up

658
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: like Opataia or Benavidez. I don't know, Luke, I'm just

659
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: trying to guess. But my whole point is like, if

660
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: you're AJ, you still got something, aren't you. Shouldn't you

661
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: be chasing the title picture rather than chasing these kind

662
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 2: of fights and almost bragging about it.

663
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure how to answer that.

664
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: If you're gonna get paid forty to fifty million and

665
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: to fight Jake Paul and you're closer to forty than

666
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: you are thirty, and you're probably not gonna win titles,

667
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: or you know you could, but yeah, it would require

668
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: a certain set of sacrifices. Is that what you really

669
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: want to do? I don't know what he wants to do,

670
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: be see. I think that's kind of the point.

671
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: Who do you think Ariel's mentioning there?

672
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: It can't be anyone in MMA, can it?

673
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, is it Poeton, is it Moses Atalma?

674
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,479
Speaker 2: What the hell is it? Luke?

675
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: I mean my thought, yeah, my thought would have been

676
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: in gone to if they hadn't already fought. But they

677
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: already fought. Like they're not going to run that one back,

678
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: are they? That would make no sense.

679
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, Islan Luke offering Rico Verhoven. No, they

680
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 2: would not run back and gone. There's nothing there, There's nothing.

681
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: I mean, Rico maybe you know. I mean, well, what's

682
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: who's the audience for that? I mean, I don't no,

683
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. Joshua versus a guy most people have

684
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,479
Speaker 1: never heard of. I don't like, why does that sell?

685
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: And I only mentioned andre Ward because whenever he does

686
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: talk about would I ever come back, Joshua was the

687
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: name he brings up.

688
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: What is do they have beef or something?

689
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: No, it's just that before wards Ward's retirement, him and

690
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 2: trainer Virgil Hunter came up with the idea of him

691
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: going all the way up to heavyweight and and thinking

692
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: Joshua was the right guy to target because he's so

693
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: boxy and you know, not traditional at that time. So

694
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's interesting, but let's get into how

695
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 2: we see this going down. Luke, I want to ask

696
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: you that prop bet again and get your pick, because look,

697
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: you're gonna pick AJ, and you're gonna pick him by stoppage,

698
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: and if AJ didn't stop him by the way, you'd

699
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: have to believe the fixed fight. You know, Army is

700
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: gonna get bigger. It's just it is what I don't know.

701
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: I don't have that information in front of me.

702
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: Because how quickly they stop it if he takes it,

703
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: if he takes a knee twice for example, BC, I

704
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: think that's also a pretty relevant factor. The referee here

705
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: will be a big deciding factor in the quickness.

706
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: The corner of Jake. So will the corner of Jake,

707
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: no question about it.

708
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 4: Howard Foster from England.

709
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: Oh he's up and down. Howard Foster. He's got some

710
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: of those Lawrence Cole moments on his resume. If you

711
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: Boxing fans out there know what I mean. Luke, I

712
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: want to hear your take on that over under over

713
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 2: under two and a half minus one forty five under

714
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: two and a half plus one ten. Where are you betting?

715
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: I'll take the unders the under two Long Island Luke

716
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: you're a better.

717
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: I'm taking the under. Also, don't call me on that

718
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 4: Howard Foster thing yet, that might have been wrong.

719
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: Also, Joshua by KO is minus three eighty. Joshua by

720
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: decision is plus four to twenty five. And if you

721
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: want to ride Jake, Jake by KO plus fourteen hundred,

722
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: Jake by decision is the same and aj By first

723
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: round knockout only plus three hundred. I'm throwing everything I

724
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: got at that, Luke, right.

725
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we're all about to have some enormous

726
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: come up Ince, but it feels like they're giving away

727
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: free money at this Sime at the show.

728
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, sto, what's the best bet here? It

729
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: is it aj By first round KO, because the odds

730
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: increase for aj each round you go. Actually you'll get

731
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: more money if you pick aj By like seventh round KO.

732
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

733
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 4: So I was talking to Luke pre show about this.

734
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 5: I was saying, Joshua rounds five through eight is plus

735
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 5: four hundred him rounds one through four is minus one

736
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 5: sixty five, So you got a lot of value in

737
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 5: those later rounds.

738
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if it goes that long.

739
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 5: DraftKings right now is offering a boost at plus one

740
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 5: point fifty, you can get Joshua Ko rounds one or

741
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 5: two plus one.

742
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 4: That's that's great value. I hopped all over that.

743
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: That's free money. That's that's fricking free money right there.

744
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: That is there's no doubt about that. Wow. Lt Do

745
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 2: you have any final thoughts, final things to say about this? Does?

746
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 8: Well?

747
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: Here's the key question we didn't ask. If Jake forget

748
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: like being praised for going out on his shield, if

749
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: Jake gets fucked up, if Jake gets knocked the hell out,

750
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 2: how much air does that take out of the balloon?

751
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: What like? Is it your only fighting KSI and Tommy

752
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 2: Fury from here on out? Or does is there nothing

753
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: that's going to stop Jake from continuing to do what

754
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:23,959
Speaker 2: he does?

755
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: The question you have to ask yourself is what does

756
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: that do for his ability as we mentioned to spin

757
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: it forward? And what does that do for the Jake

758
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: Paul appetite in terms of what Netflix might be interested in?

759
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is b see, even if he

760
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: gets viciously KOed by Joshua and they made a ks

761
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: I fight, would there be interested in a ks I

762
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: fight potentially? Or for example, let's try something else, a

763
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: Tommy Fury rematch. Would there be you know, could you

764
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: make a Tommy Fury rematch sell some tickets, make some

765
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: money from doing it? Sure? But would Netflix be interested

766
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: in that? Would Netflix be interested in Tommy Fury too,

767
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: Jake Paul, I don't know the answer to that. Would

768
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: they be interested, for example, in Nate Diaz too? I

769
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: don't think that they would, not for the kind of

770
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: money they want to spend, not for the grandeur that

771
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: they're looking for. So the real consideration here is if

772
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: Jake loses and then loses badly, what does it do

773
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: to his prospects, Not necessarily to get a fight and

774
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: make money, but for anyone that the big callers might

775
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: be interested in, And that, to me, he's a little

776
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: bit more precarious.

777
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also, like he signed all the you know,

778
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: he's cornered the market on elite women's fighters. He has

779
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: everyone basically but Katie Taylor.

780
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: And he's going to make a UBO, I guarantee it.

781
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: My official question in twenty twenty six, He's going to

782
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: make a UBO for women.

783
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: But in my opinion, this fight's more dangerous than it

784
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: probably needs to be, because if Jake isn't able to

785
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: stay active in the type of fights that Netflix would want,

786
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: then all of these fighters he's fighting won't have a

787
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: big platform to compete on. I love that he's got

788
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 2: Alicia Baumgardner, who's in the comine here, and he's hired,

789
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: you know, signed so many other top female names. But

790
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: if they're going to be fighting on his own in

791
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: the Korebay Resort in Orlando, no one's gonna care. So

792
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 2: he almost needs to not let this be the end, right,

793
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: Like there's financial pressure.

794
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: This is this is why, Like for example, you know,

795
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: everyone's got a different view of like how far it

796
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: has to go for it to count as a victory.

797
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: But to me, if he makes it to round four

798
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: and he survives three rounds, and like I'll even say this,

799
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: here's a scenario for UBC. He gets battered a bit,

800
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: but he's so fleet a foot for whatever reason, I'm

801
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: just inventing a scenario. He gets battered a bit, he

802
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: doesn't actually get knocked down in the first three rounds.

803
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: Now in round four he gets KOed just like in Ghanu,

804
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: like vicious, quick, brutal, the whole nine yards. So in

805
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: the end, you got kind of what you expected, and

806
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: you got the methodology or the method by which you

807
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: expected it. But if he can say I took this

808
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: guy four rounds, you know, looking, I survived all of this,

809
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: like I did much better than you expected. You know

810
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: how what how far is that? That is? In my mind?

811
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: If he makes it that far, that's enough to spin

812
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: that forward. It truly is. So this is what I mean,

813
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: Like Jake Paul is risking something quite severe, but there

814
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: are numerous ways in which this leverages future opportunity without

815
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: ever having to get your hand raised. He just has

816
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: to protect his health.

817
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 2: And just for the record, Eddie Herner of Mattrium Sport,

818
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: the promoter of Anthony Joshua, revealed this week that they're

819
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: not using VADA to test for drugs for this fight.

820
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: They're using you SADA and that it was most valuable

821
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: promotions choice and Joshua had to go along with it.

822
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: So take that for whatever you think that means. Tom

823
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: for a quick history lesson before we transition, and.

824
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: Goua says something real quick before we transition. I keep

825
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: seeing people say that there's like, oh, there's there's a

826
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: ped use problem in boxing, And my response to that

827
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: would be I don't know what an acceptable level of

828
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: ped use is. That that's a you know, it's a

829
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: debate we can all have, but it's you see, it's

830
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: almost certainly on par with what you get in the

831
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: other sports, right, It's almost certainly on par with what

832
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: you get in American football, which nobody cares even a

833
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: little bit about, and has the exact same amount of

834
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: not worse amounts of trauma that it runs people through.

835
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: And so I'm not saying that's an acceptable level, but

836
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: people keep saying it's like an unusually high amount. No,

837
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: it's probably just quite commensurate with everyone else. It's just

838
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: a different sport with different realities.

839
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: I mean, how much do you think Lebron James playing

840
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: twenty years as peds.

841
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: Or maybe that's asparagus and afternoon naps. P see, that's what.

842
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: Maybe he drank the blood of children Luke and some

843
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: you know in her Hollywood ceremony. You never know, Look,

844
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: you do never know, right there. I mean, one day

845
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: those files will be released. Hey, now's a good time

846
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: to remember, by the way, where Tequila's story truly began. Hey,

847
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 2: let's take it all the way back to seventeen ninety five,

848
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,600
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849
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,960
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850
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: the same thing, fily. Oh yeah, you better believe it,

851
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,560
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852
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,560
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853
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,319
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00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:19,160
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855
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:25,040
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856
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,759
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858
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 2: month away as we get ready for January twenty fourth

859
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: and the first pl e of the paramount UFC Era.

860
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: So there you go. Topic number two Luke is the

861
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: Jake Paul Anthony Joshua undercard And look, if you're an

862
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 2: MMA fan, I'm not saying it's must see TV, but

863
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: in what but it's not nothing? In what amounts to

864
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 2: a loser's bracket matchup between MMA legends who have both

865
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: lost boxing matches to Jake Paul. Forty three year old

866
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: Tyron will Woodley fills in for the injured Chris Widman

867
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 2: against fifty year old Anderson Silva in a cruiserweight matchup,

868
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: and for as weird as this fight is, it's also

869
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: kind of evenly matched, with Silva sitting as a DraftKings

870
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: favorite of minus two seventy five. Occurring on the same

871
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: weekend as both Andrew Tay and Tony Ferguson will have

872
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: boxing matches for better or disgustingly worse under the Misfits banner,

873
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: Silva Woodley almost feels like kind of an interesting fight.

874
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas, what are your expectations for this wash showcase?

875
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: Hilarity, sadness. Here's let me ask you something. This is

876
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this, Okay, I sort of get

877
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: I saw again. This is what I mean about Jake

878
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: Paul just kind of rushing together something. I don't know

879
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: if if the UFC told Chris Widman not to take it,

880
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: because remember there were origin just gonna do Chris Wideman

881
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: silver boxing match and then that all fell through. I'm

882
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: not sad he got hurt.

883
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: Wiedman says he's hurt.

884
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: People say lots of things. But whatever, Let's say he

885
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: got hurt, who cares, so then they make the Silva

886
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: and the Woodley fight. B See, Woodley is zero to

887
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: two in boxing. Those are the only two boxing matches

888
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: he have there. The Jake Paul one, he got viciously

889
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: kaoed in the second one. The hype before the first

890
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: fight was pretty good, but the fight was so so.

891
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: Now the second fight was decent. He hurt Jake and

892
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: it was kind of back and forth.

893
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: It was so so, it was so so okay okay.

894
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: Second fight was terrible, but it had the dramatic ending.

895
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: That was in twenty twenty one. He hasn't fought in

896
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: anything since then, and here he is getting yet a

897
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: third payday. And I bring us all up to say,

898
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: at the end of his run there, I remember he

899
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: had like four losses in a row in UFC, and

900
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: then you're like, wow, man, he's really he's really a

901
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: great champion at one point, but he's really past it.

902
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: That's his father time. He's forty three years old. He

903
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: has managed to get three I'm guessing pretty respectable checks

904
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: at a point in his athletic life when he probably

905
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: there's not much of a market for that kind of thing,

906
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: so respect to him, like, that's actually pretty impressive. But

907
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: this is the one I don't necessarily understand BC, which

908
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: is Silva. Silva who probably by MMA standards, made a

909
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: lot of money in his career and BC and just

910
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: got over ten million dollars from the payout were in

911
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: the class action settlement, Like people were saying, how much

912
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: is this guy gonna get? And how much? Silver got

913
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: ten million dollars? He got ten million dollars? Why are

914
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: you doing this? And by the way, how old.

915
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: Is he fifty? Let's show the face off? Do you

916
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: agree with the odds here? As you see the height

917
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: difference between them Silva minus two seventy five Woodley plus

918
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: two ten, which you know that tells you it could

919
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: be a competitive fight. It's a six round cruiserweight about

920
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: But they're they're the betters, are I mean? Look, Woodley

921
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: hasn't won a fight of any kind since twenty eighteen,

922
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: although he did eat hair Pie on camera, which is

923
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: not nothing? Right?

924
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: Is that a w that?

925
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 2: Well depends who it was, Luke. Let's also see a

926
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: video of Silva on the scale. By the way, he

927
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: came in at one ninety one point four three pounds

928
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: less than Woodley Luke. If I looked at it, look

929
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: like that at fifty and three years I'm taking my

930
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: shirt off to Okay.

931
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and your pants probably too.

932
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, definitely.

933
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't get it. This fight should be butt cheeks.

934
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: Let's just be honest about it. I hope no one

935
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: gets hurt. That's really my point. I'm glad these guys

936
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: are getting a paycheck. I'll say it. I just don't

937
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: get it. In Silva's case, yeah, I don't know. I

938
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: don't really get it. I don't I don't think well.

939
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: Anderson made some headlines this week when he was asked

940
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: about Dana White and their business relationship and whether he's

941
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: heard from Dana and Spider kind of got the old

942
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: man's back. Surprisingly, no is nona call me.

943
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 9: I don't talk to Dana for long, long time. But

944
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 9: you know, a lot of people are talking about Dana,

945
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 9: talk bad about Danna. But it's a business. You know,

946
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 9: it's a business man, you know, stay in the business

947
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 9: for many many years. You know, is toff you say

948
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 9: something bad about Dana something good, you know, because it's

949
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 9: only about business. You know, it's numbers. Numbers don't lie.

950
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 9: You know, when you don't make the same numbers, why

951
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 9: you I keep you here? You know that you know

952
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 9: it's Dana's Is Dana is a boss?

953
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: Lucas Silva unnecessaryly polite? Or is he trying to stay

954
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: in the family.

955
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's just trying to. Whenever you're figure

956
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: of that size, you know, anything you say can just

957
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: blow up in the most sometimes unassuming of ways. But

958
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: then there are ones you can kind of see coming.

959
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: And if he was out there being like you know,

960
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: Anderson Silva destroys the a white let's assume that's what

961
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: he Maybe he feels exactly the way he articulated, But

962
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: even if he didn't, he is going to say something

963
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: like this, because if you just get out there and

964
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: you blast him, like you have to then deal with

965
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: a media cycle where everybody and their brother is sort

966
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: of consuming it, and it leads to, you know, potentially

967
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: problems you don't even care about having anymore. Like maybe

968
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: he feels badly about Dane or doesn't like him, but

969
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: just doesn't want the grief of having to, you know,

970
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: deal with an ugly media cycle, especially for a big

971
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: fight like this, So you know, who knows, maybe he

972
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: feels this way. Maybe he doesn't. I just found the critique.

973
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah he did. I don't think he. I think he's

974
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: just trying to have a low key kind of run

975
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: here as well.

976
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 2: I looked at it Long Island, Luke, you're going Silva

977
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: by decision here, right, He's got the longer arms, he's

978
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: got more boxing experience.

979
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 4: All right.

980
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 5: To be honest, I didn't look at Woodley's age when

981
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 5: I made this bet. I just looked at Anderson Silvia's age,

982
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 5: and I went, he's fifty years old. I'll take Tyron

983
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 5: Woodley at plus two ten.

984
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 4: So I'm right withoy has.

985
00:50:59,040 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: Looked so bad.

986
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 2: I can't box though.

987
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 5: He really probably a bad bet. But we got a

988
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 5: forty three year old going against a fifty year old.

989
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 5: I'll take my shot at the forty three year old, right,

990
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 5: all right.

991
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: I'm taking Silva all the way. And that co main event,

992
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 2: by the way, unified one hundred and thirty pound women's

993
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 2: champion Alicia the Bomb Bombgartner, who we didn't get the

994
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: video in time, Luke, but was heavily scantily clad at

995
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: the official ceremonial way, and we'll defend her titles against

996
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: Laila Boydon Boydoon voding something like that. All I know

997
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: is the bomb is a minus fourteen hundred betting favorite.

998
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: But people aren't talking about this fight as much as

999
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: some people are talking about the dust up at the

1000
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: press conference, as Caroline Dubois, the sister of former heavyweight

1001
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: title holder Daniel Dubois, was most recently signed to MVP,

1002
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: will have a fight with for her WBC Women's lightweight

1003
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 2: title on this undercard, and I wonder if MVP is

1004
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: building something here. Here's a quick sound check from these two.

1005
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 8: I'm hearing a lotto out and they say it being

1006
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 8: the face of women's boxing and the best women boxing.

1007
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 8: You know what, I disagree with that one hundred percent.

1008
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 8: I think it's also that we're both on the same

1009
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 8: card and you will be able to make up your

1010
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 8: own mind about who is the best.

1011
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: That's true.

1012
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 10: I mean, baby, I'm the Ko Komain event for a reason.

1013
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 10: So listen, listen, listen, listen. One thing about little puppy.

1014
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 11: One thing about the puppy.

1015
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 10: Hey, listen, one thing, one thing about a puppy. One

1016
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 10: thing about a puppy. You gotta train them, baby, and

1017
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 10: you gotta take your time with them. Puppies, so take

1018
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 10: your time, be patient. Yeah, let's let the big dog

1019
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 10: do with the big dog.

1020
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 11: Do baby eat?

1021
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 10: All right?

1022
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 2: All right?

1023
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, you in the listen, listen, you listen. You in

1024
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 10: the USA. This ain't the UK, baby, This the USA. Baby.

1025
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 10: We're gonna welcome you real good here in Miami. So yeah,

1026
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 10: let's have a good time Friday night.

1027
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 8: Welcome, Welcome to the You guys can make up.

1028
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke, I'm feeling at you.

1029
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: And I know what you're feeling.

1030
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: All right, Sorry about that, Sorry for that.

1031
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: Women's boxing needs rivalries.

1032
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: She's got Bumgardner's got a great one with MICHAELA.

1033
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: Mayer.

1034
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: We got to see that. Remiss, We'll see what happens

1035
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: right there. Let's go to topic number three here. Let's

1036
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: keep the show moving in somewhat I guess you could

1037
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 2: say somewhat of a surprise. The five division champion and

1038
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: most recently the undisputed super middleweight champion after his upset

1039
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 2: of Canelo Alvarez, Terrence Bud Crawford at age thirty eight,

1040
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: put out a five minute plus YouTube video this week

1041
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: announcing his retirement, stating he had nothing left to prove.

1042
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: While we certainly will get to the question in a

1043
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: second of do we believe him? Boxers say this all

1044
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 2: the time. A few boxers get to walk away on

1045
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: their own terms with as immaculate a legacy as Crawford

1046
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: just did. Right, you're talking about guys like Rocky Marciano,

1047
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather, Joe Kalzagi, andre Ward. I mean, there aren't

1048
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: many of them, So, Luke, if Terrence Crawford never fights again,

1049
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: how would you try to sum up what he has

1050
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: accomplished and how he might be remembered after seventeen years

1051
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 2: as a professional.

1052
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: He is the closest thing I've seen to Floyd since Floyd.

1053
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 1: We've kind of discussed this on the show in previous

1054
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: ways when there was actually people asking us to make comparisons,

1055
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: or comparisons were being made in the media, like who

1056
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: was more dominant in their era or you know, that

1057
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: kind of a thing. But Floyd had a run through

1058
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: boxing that was certainly, at the end, a lot more careful, strategic, thoughtful,

1059
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: and designed around more than just who the best guy

1060
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: he could be or who the best opponent was. It

1061
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: was also designed around you, promotional interest and everything that

1062
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: we all understand goes into this kind of a thing,

1063
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: but in the end it was also pretty undeniable and

1064
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: pretty exemplary and without necessarily a blemish. Obviously, he retired undefeated,

1065
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: and when he beat Manny in twenty fifteen especially, it

1066
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: kind of just became clear at that point who the

1067
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: guy was. By twenty seventeen, obviously he was boxing Connor

1068
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: McGregor and he was in a different space. But he

1069
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: did things during his era that were clearly not done

1070
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: by his contemporaries, and to the extent that there were

1071
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: contemporaries who were biting at his heels or you know,

1072
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: putting up other similar kinds of things head to head,

1073
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: he won. That is kind of to me like what

1074
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: Bud Crawford did during the time he was around. Now,

1075
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: it took a bit of a slow start, and you

1076
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: can blame who you want in the whole top rank thing,

1077
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: and you know, or in the PBC Al Hayman side,

1078
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: however you want to say that that went down, that

1079
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 1: those certainly created some obstacles, but BC, by the time

1080
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: it all kind of came to a close, he was

1081
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: so clearly efforting towards a level of greatness that you

1082
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: just look around, who else was doing something like that. Yes,

1083
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: of course there had been guys who had unified. In fact,

1084
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: he took a unified set of belts from or undisputed

1085
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: from Canelo Alvarez, but Canelo was much closer to his

1086
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: walk around. Way. Here we are at a guy who had

1087
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: never fought at that weight class, and then he won

1088
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: all the belts in his one and only about up there,

1089
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: and of course that was the third weight class he

1090
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: had done that in. This is just remarkable in ways

1091
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: that his contemporaries cannot say that they did. And there's

1092
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: been some pretty good ones BC. Obviously, we know Usik

1093
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: has been doing tremendous things and in a way has

1094
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: been doing tremendous things, and plenty of others who've been

1095
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: champions along the way. But when one person is able

1096
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: to contribute a set of victories so significant that you

1097
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: can't even figure out who would be two or three

1098
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: relative to this in this last era, it kind of

1099
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: says what they represented. That's how I remember him. He

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00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: just did things that his contemporaries did not by a

1101
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: considerable distance, and it frankly wasn't hard to tell. By

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00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: the time that was all over.

1103
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: Well, very well, said I think the thing I'll sum

1104
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: him up the best is he's the rare proof in

1105
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: this sport where you know, politics plays a big role,

1106
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 2: promotional advantages, a sides and all that, he's the rare

1107
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: occurrence where the cream was going to rise to the

1108
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: top eventually and would not be stopped no matter what. Meaning.

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00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: We all remember how long it took him to finally

1110
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: get super elite opponents across the ring from him, and

1111
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: yet while we were on this multi year build to

1112
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: the Spence fight that we didn't know if it was

1113
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: going to happen. It was another Mayweather packiot type situation,

1114
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 2: and Crawford always said throughout that I don't care if

1115
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: it doesn't happen. I still think I'm you know, I

1116
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: still know who I am. I'm still content with what

1117
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 2: I accomplished. If that fight never happened, if Bud had

1118
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: retired without taking on the challenges he did at the

1119
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 2: end of his career, we wouldn't remember him like we

1120
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: remember him today, which means he had a very small window,

1121
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: not as small as the one that Luke Skywalker took

1122
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: the Death Star down with in episode four, not that small,

1123
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: but a very small window to maximize his legacy since

1124
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 2: even though he was already a multi multi division champion

1125
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: by the time he got to welterweight, it took him

1126
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 2: a while. He had a fight in after Market American

1127
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: and after Mark at kel Brook. Yeah he'd be Jeff

1128
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 2: Horn whatever, but it wasn't until he got the fight

1129
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 2: with Sean Porter Aero Spence Israel madramav At one p.

1130
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: Fifty four when he was unbeaten and awkward, and of

1131
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: course Canelo two divisions north of that. Yet he not

1132
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: only was able to keep up his level at age

1133
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 2: thirty eight, where he's still so relying on movement and

1134
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: speed and set up, he was able to get better.

1135
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: He was able to do the best work of his

1136
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: career at the end of it, taking huge chances, putting

1137
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: the unbeaten record on the line. You famously said, Luke,

1138
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: when you were in that arena for Spence versus Crawford,

1139
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: like tears came to your eyes because it was such

1140
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: a such a virtuoso performance. That's one of the biggest

1141
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 2: fights of this century in terms of like people waiting

1142
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: for it, in the expectations, and he made it. He

1143
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: turned it into a one sided beat down. So he

1144
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: was so great that even though he was never in

1145
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: a promotional favorite early on, even though he was always

1146
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 2: sort of against something holding him back, sometimes his own self.

1147
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: He wasn't a great marketer. Top rank got mad at

1148
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 2: him a lot for his inability to sell. Yet when

1149
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: you look now at the totality of his resume, when

1150
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: you've got Canelo, Madrmov, Porter Spence, Victor Postal, the unification

1151
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 2: at one forty, which was a huge fight in his career, Gambo,

1152
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: Jeff Horn, Ricky Burns like no more. Can you say, oh,

1153
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: he's great, but he only beat two names? Like no?

1154
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: He is a five division champion Long Island, Luke, could

1155
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: you show the graphic of who is a five division

1156
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: champion in boxing history? Nanny pacquiel oscar de la Joya,

1157
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather, Sugar Ray, Leonard Thomas, the Hitman, Hearns, and

1158
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: Bud Crawford. He's a three time the only male in

1159
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 2: the modern era to go three time four belt undisputed.

1160
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: He's a four division lineal champion five overall. If we

1161
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: can show the retirement pick he posted of all the

1162
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: belty achieved in his career with the caption of nothing

1163
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: left group and here's a quote tweet from Bud's very

1164
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: long retirement video that said quote, I'm stepping away from

1165
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: competition not because I'm done fighting, but because I've won

1166
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: a different kind of battle, the one where you walk

1167
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: away on your own terms. Now, Luke, if you had

1168
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: asked me, what was still left for him to accomplish.

1169
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 2: I do remember a couple months ago when there was

1170
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: a potential two fight plan for him at middleweight to

1171
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 2: try to go undisputed in four weight classes, where maybe

1172
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 2: he could have took the title from Carlos Damas and

1173
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: maybe he could have taken on the winner of Arislandi

1174
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: lar versus Jannebec to unify the other three belts. Unfortunately,

1175
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: Jannebec pop dirty, the Lara fight didn't happen. I don't

1176
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 2: know if that was a decider in this. There are

1177
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: some people online going, maybe the news that Sawi's not

1178
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: gonna have the same deep pockets in twenty six, that

1179
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: this is just Crawford's way of, you know, getting negotiational

1180
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 2: leverage for an eventual Canelo rematch later this year. I'm

1181
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: not really sure Bud has not been overly motivated by

1182
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: money in his career. He's also made a shit ton

1183
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: of it in the last three years. So, Luke Thomas,

1184
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: do you believe you will ever see Bud Crawford in

1185
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:40,919
Speaker 2: a boxing ring.

1186
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: Gain, Yeah, Yeah, he'll come out of retirement for something.

1187
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: Who knows, dude, Apparently Jake Paul was pursuing the Terrence

1188
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: Crawford fight. You know that's been now corroborated. He'll come

1189
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 1: back out for a paycheck. Someone's going to offer him

1190
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: dumbass money and he'll do it strategically like he always does,

1191
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: BC thoughtfully like he always does, and he'll win probably

1192
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: like he always does. But I don't think it's the

1193
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: last round he's ever boxed. It might be the last

1194
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: round he's boxed for a little while, though, I do

1195
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: believe that.

1196
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes just stepping away on your own terms

1197
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: allows you to have the you know, decision to never

1198
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 2: fight again and look what you left behind. It also

1199
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: gives you that leverage in future negotiation. So congrats to

1200
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: Bud wherever you want to rank him historically, I think

1201
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 2: he's achieved enough where you're probably not wrong, meaning, look,

1202
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard for us in this era to

1203
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: be like, no, he's not as good as Harry Greb was.

1204
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like, look, we weren't around then.

1205
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 2: It's hard to compare boxing back then when there was

1206
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 2: largely one title per division and there was only eight

1207
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: divisions and now you've got you know, four to six

1208
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 2: titles per division and seventeen slash eighteen weight classes. But

1209
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,919
Speaker 2: what Bud has done with what was available to him,

1210
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: He's one of the best fighters in the history of

1211
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 2: this sport. I want to close with a very good video. Hey,

1212
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,479
Speaker 2: if you're not watching The Art of Ward with andre

1213
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: Ward on All the Smoke Fight, he gets some very

1214
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: good interviews, but the one they just released with Hall

1215
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: of Famer Timothy Bradley Junior is beyond must watch on

1216
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: many different levels, for not just Tim's craziness and warrior

1217
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: spirit behind the scenes, but for this little story he

1218
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 2: told about the first time he met Terrence Crawford and.

1219
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 11: I look at him and go, bruh, you ain't no

1220
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 11: spawn partner. You a world champion man.

1221
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 10: You are beating up and dropping sparing partners in STEP's

1222
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 10: Terrence Crawford.

1223
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 11: Oh man, hey, look Terrence lands Palm Springs, never heard

1224
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 11: of him. Brother in law goes down, picks him up,

1225
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 11: straight to the gym, because if his work ain't good enough,

1226
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 11: we got a red eye for him, room and go

1227
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 11: back home. I walk in, I see him off in

1228
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 11: the corner, like, who is this dude right getting the

1229
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 11: ring with him? My team is right here. This dude

1230
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 11: is by himself. He came on my corner to get warfed.

1231
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 11: After every single round first round goes, I'm like, all right,

1232
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 11: let me see what he knows.

1233
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: I make a mo boom, I get hit.

1234
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 11: I'm like, damn, okay, let me get a little bit

1235
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 11: serious with this man.

1236
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 2: Let me see if he lay down.

1237
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 11: So I turned it up, bing.

1238
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 4: Bing bing bing bing.

1239
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 11: He's like be ban being bing bing bing right back,

1240
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 11: and I'm like, oh, okay, he got something right. But

1241
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 11: then I would raise at another level and then it's

1242
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 11: an all out fight. But he right there, hanging with

1243
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 11: me every time.

1244
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 7: He's right there.

1245
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 11: I was supposed to go six rounds that day.

1246
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 4: I only went four.

1247
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: Man.

1248
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 11: I'm like, who are you man? I'm Terrence Crawford, and

1249
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 11: I look at him. I go, bruh, you ain't no

1250
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 11: spawn partner. You a world champion man. I was like,

1251
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 11: why you're not fighting? And he was just like, I

1252
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 11: don't know why. So when I got in the car.

1253
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 11: I immediately called Cameron Duncan and I was like, hey, Cameron, Yo,

1254
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 11: what you doing with Crawford. He was like, don't tell me.

1255
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 11: You're sending him wrong too. I was like, I was like,

1256
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 11: I'm keeping him, and I was like.

1257
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: Can I buy him out this contract? And he goes,

1258
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 2: what do you mean?

1259
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 11: I was like heat with my That's when our relationships

1260
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,479
Speaker 11: started to build because I recognized that he just needed

1261
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 11: a little direction.

1262
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: Right.

1263
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 2: Did he stay for the full camp? Oh?

1264
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, he stays. So I sparred him on Monday, and

1265
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 11: so then I'm going over to film and studying him

1266
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 11: and looking at his mistakes he made on Monday. But

1267
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 11: then Wednesday come and he's a completely different fighter. He

1268
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 11: is just again, but nobody was in his corner, so

1269
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 11: he doing that by himself. It was like, this dude

1270
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 11: had a photographic memory, bro, and so that's what I was,

1271
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 11: just like, this dude is different.

1272
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 9: Man.

1273
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: Cannot recommend the especially the last forty five minutes of

1274
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: that interview enough. But look, that was twenty twelve. That

1275
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 2: story when Bradley was like a unified champion, you know,

1276
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: top ten pounds for pound. Nobody had heard of Crawford

1277
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 2: at all shows up alone and beats up future Hall

1278
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 2: of Famer Tim Bradley, Like those stories are wild, man,

1279
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 2: I'll never get over shit like that.

1280
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: He is. He is a boxing savant.

1281
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: All right. Hey, this podcast you're listening to, by the way,

1282
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,200
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Speaker 2: go to the MMA and tom aspinall firing back at

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Speaker 2: Cerial Gone So. On Tuesday, Serial Gain took to ig

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Speaker 2: and posted a picture of him sparring with ty to

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Speaker 2: Ivasa with the caption still no date or opponent, but

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Speaker 2: we keep on grinding and trading, training hard before the holidays.

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Speaker 2: That post received an almost instantaneous spicy response from the

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Speaker 2: current UFC heavyweight champion Tom Aspinall, who said, no shit,

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Speaker 2: there's not a date yet. I'm not medically cleared to fight.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to have surgery thanks to your disgusting fingernails.

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Speaker 2: I'll be back to smash your face in soon. You'd

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Speaker 2: cheat LT. Is it just me or has this very

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 2: unfortunate ipoke gate, which took place during a fight that

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Speaker 2: none of us were all too excited about giving the

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Speaker 2: John Jones debacle suddenly makes this inevitable rematch must see

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Speaker 2: because of the spite between them, and maybe has turned

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Speaker 2: Tom Asparall into the heel we've been hoping he can become.

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Speaker 2: All along, where do you stand on this?

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Speaker 1: Right? In line with that, the fight has to happen anyway,

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Speaker 1: just because it was a title fight that ended in

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Speaker 1: a what do you want to call it? Flukey way?

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Speaker 1: They need to run that one back. So what's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen no matter what? But Tom I'm doing everything he

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01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: did afterwards where he's you know, leaning into all of this,

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Speaker 1: trying to show how his eye is messed up, and

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously now giving ammunition to his skeptics let's

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01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: put it that way. That has raised it, and now

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Speaker 1: Tom has done the other part where he has kind

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Speaker 1: of turned the screw one more time and now he's

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Speaker 1: going on the offensive. It's more about like, oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: defensively answering to the claims. Now I'm going to go

1343
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: on the offense. Now I'm going to tell everyone in

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01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: his mind anyway what the situation is. And you could

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01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: say he believes that, you could say he doesn't. Either way.

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01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: BC it gets back to your point, which is I

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01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: did this. I mentioned this before I did this exercise

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Speaker 1: with Mike Bond and the worst fight we had in

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01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five was literally drinkest

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Speaker 1: TUPLECEI versus Sean Strickland one and two. But like right

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Speaker 1: above that in terms of like the all time worst,

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01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 1: or I should say the worst of twenty twenty five

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01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: was maybe the fight between although the event anyway, between

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Speaker 1: Gon and Aspinall. I have to tell you one of

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Speaker 1: the more intriguing fights that I want to see in

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01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six is the Aspinall Gone rematch. We already

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01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: indicated it has to happen, it will happen. All these

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01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: atmospherics have made it much more hotly contested. It put

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Speaker 1: rivalry into a place where maybe there wasn't one before,

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Speaker 1: and it has raised a bunch of questions about Tom's

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Speaker 1: Tom Aspinall's development, which we see we were all kind

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Speaker 1: of no one has been hiding for the fact that

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Speaker 1: you know, aspenaal kind of fights like this, and some

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01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: of that stuff was made to be a real weakness

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Speaker 1: for him against Gon. I am way more interested in

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01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: the rematch than I ever was the first fight. I

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01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: love this rematch and I think it's much more competitive

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01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: than the what I thought the first fight would be

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01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: and much more interesting stakes this time around. Count me in.

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Speaker 2: I'm starting to wonder like, either Tom Aspinall has the

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01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 2: worst luck ever and this was never meant to be,

1372
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 2: meaning remember he got injured, missed the year against after

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01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 2: the Blades fight, then had the John Jones soap opera

1374
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: for two years, finally becomes full champion, and now we're like, Okay,

1375
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: be the superman that we that we thought you were.

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01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,759
Speaker 2: And then has this happened, everybody calling him a quitter.

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01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 2: Either either he's got the worst luck or this is

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01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 2: setting him up for the biggest breakthrough and you know,

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01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: a really good full circle story of coming back, demolishing Gone,

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Speaker 2: taking on whatever celebrity is out there, Jones poets on whomever. So, Luke,

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01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how long eye surgery though last recovery wise,

1382
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 2: do you have any idea? We don't know the severity.

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01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 2: If it's gonna be one eye or both eyes.

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be wise to expect him second, late second,

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01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: or maybe third quarter of the year.

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01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 2: All right, So if that's the case, it seems clear

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01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 2: that we're gonna need an interim title. I mean they

1388
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 2: floated an interium lightweight title real quick, like when tull

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01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 2: Torria was suddenly having blackmail problems and divorce problems here. So, Luke,

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01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 2: if if Aspenall surgery does keep him out for the

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01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 2: first half of next year, what is the right play

1392
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 2: by UFC for an interim heavyweight title fight Surreal Gon

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01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 2: versus Waldo Cortes Acosta if he wins his next coming

1394
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 2: fight in January? Waldoke yes, or John Jones versus Alex

1395
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: Pereira or some combination of both. What should the UFC do?

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01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:18,560
Speaker 2: What will the UFC.

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01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: Do Long Island, Luke says, Gone versus Volkov. I like

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01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: that one actually more because Volkov really has a case

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01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: to have beaten God and that's a rematch that you

1400
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: can run back and have a title I mean, And honestly,

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01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: if you're Volkov, I don't know if you're gonna get

1402
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: an opportunity if they don't slot you in on that one.

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01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: I like that call by Long Island great one. I

1404
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: think that's a good one. And by the way, there's

1405
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: like real intrigue in that fight, because Gone kind of

1406
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: got away with one there.

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01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 2: So you are you of the belief that there's no

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01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 2: reason at all to put Jones Pereira in an interim

1409
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 2: title fight, Like no reason at all, not even to

1410
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 2: trap John into saying if you win, you have to fight.

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01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't think about John Jones at all in any capacity,

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01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: all right, I understand. I understand he might come back

1413
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 1: and compete. I get that, But he is as flaky

1414
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: and unreliable as a human being can possibly be. And

1415
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: even if he stays for a fight, how much longer

1416
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: after that? Probably not very long at all. Like he's

1417
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: just he's a ghost as far as I'm concerned.

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01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,799
Speaker 2: A Long Island Luke reminding us that Volkoff lost twice

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01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 2: to go.

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01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 1: Yes, he got bodied the first time they fought, and

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01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: then the rematch was the three rounder where he looked

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01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: much better.

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01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: Oh and he got right. Yeah, that's right, that was recent. Okay,

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01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: my mind's coming back to me. Yeah, I guess you

1425
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 2: don't need a title on Jones Pereira. It's a super

1426
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 2: fight if they go that way. Uh do you make

1427
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 2: anything of that weird post? That a fighting put out?

1428
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 2: Then they took it down and it kind of said

1429
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 2: that Pereira said that the White House is not going

1430
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: to happen for like to that fight so big. You

1431
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 2: don't need it at the White House. You can put

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01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: it in any pay per view.

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01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 1: I just think that they have. I mean, it's the

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01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: same thing I've been saying this whole time. They have

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01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: a calendar to fill and if you know, I will

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01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: say this though, if Taporia is not going to be

1437
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: on it, you can still put Islam on it, right,

1438
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 1: So that's still something you can do. But Islam headlining

1439
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 1: a card, even at the White House, I'm sorry, is

1440
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: not an I mean, I mean, I don't know what

1441
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 1: enough would be, but that doesn't seem like it'd be enough.

1442
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: You would imagine Poeton would be on that card too,

1443
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: but they've got they've got other events they've got to

1444
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: take care of the rest of the year, So you know,

1445
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: I think people should have somewhat somewhat managed expectations about

1446
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: that card.

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01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 2: All right, we'll see what happens there. But I like

1448
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: the dark turn here from aspinall feel.

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01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: Dude, I definitely like it.

1450
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: This is like episode six when that cry baby Luke

1451
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 2: Skywalker finally put on the black and got all Jedi

1452
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 2: up on that ass. Luke.

1453
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, We're talking about Return of

1454
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: the Jedi.

1455
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke Skywalker because he's the son of that absolute

1456
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 2: bitch Anakin.

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01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah to George Lucas making two whiners, the history of

1458
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 1: the winners of the you know, the greatest Warriors in

1459
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: the Galaxy really tells you that Star Wars is a

1460
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 1: piece of shit franchise.

1461
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow. The real Star Wars is called Dune one

1462
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 2: and two five, Denie Villeneuve. Check it out, dude.

1463
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,440
Speaker 1: Is Star Wars for adults?

1464
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 2: That's right, That's right, that's right there.

1465
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: And if you're mad at me, my balls, I don't.

1466
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 2: Care for writing that story that Lucas stole from you.

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01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 2: Let's go to topic number five, a little Hodgepodge pot pirie

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Speaker 2: of combat sports news and notes. Off the top here Luke.

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Speaker 2: Former UFC heavyweight champion two time champion Kane Velasquez could

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01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 2: be released from jail as early as February of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six, despite serving a five year sentence following a

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01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 2: conviction for attempted murder, where at trial he was facing

1473
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 2: his highest thirty years. Caine scored a new parole eligibility

1474
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 2: date this week. Came now must appear before the parole

1475
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: board to plead his case, but if everything goes perfect,

1476
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 2: he could be out by February. Here's an updated picture

1477
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 2: of Kane in the prison yard. I believe that's Sean

1478
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 2: Comb's number five behind him, Luke, looking to have him

1479
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 2: snap the ball in the jail yard football game. Yeah,

1480
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: here we go. Let me get those hands behind that crackola.

1481
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 2: In all serious, Luke, I mean, look, we all kind

1482
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 2: of sympathize with Kane, even though he took Marshall law

1483
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 2: into his own hands. Are you surprised that he could

1484
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 2: be out this quick?

1485
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: Not necessarily, because as I understand it, he was eligible

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01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: already in March. They just pushed it back earlier and

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01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: not further away, but earlier to February. So I don't

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01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 1: think it's a huge change. He probably is a I'm

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01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: guessing a model inmate, right, and I'm sure is probably

1490
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: well liked within the inmate ranks. That's actually I've seen

1491
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: some reporting to that effect, and clearly is keeping himself busy.

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01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: So no, I mean, it's not a huge change from

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Speaker 1: what we were going to get before. I also agree,

1494
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,799
Speaker 1: I didn't love the recklessness that he engaged in, obviously

1495
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: in an act of rage. We've been over this a

1496
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: million times. But he is, he is paying his cost

1497
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: for it. The state is determining that he could be

1498
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 1: out even sooner. If that's what the state determines, then

1499
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it too. And you know, hopefully this

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01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: is a thing that his family. I'll say, this can

1501
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: move on from after this when he gets out, and

1502
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see there we go.

1503
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 2: So like, no, like Kine Lesnar rematch in the Octagon

1504
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 2: in twenty six.

1505
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: Do you think there would be one for something like that?

1506
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

1507
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Kane seemed physically shot by the time he

1508
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 1: fought Francis and it's been I think he was.

1509
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 2: I mean his knee gave out on him right when

1510
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 2: he got rocked.

1511
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: He's had a lot of knee injuries. That's that's what

1512
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean. Like he seemed to be kind of crumbling.

1513
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: You know, interesting stuff right there, long Islan Luke, does

1514
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 2: he ever fight again? Does he doesn't need to? But like,

1515
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: does he ever fight again?

1516
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 3: No?

1517
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for that very succinct right to

1518
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 2: the point, Luke. BKFC had a press conference yesterday in

1519
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 2: Philadelphia to announce their next ten pole event. I know

1520
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,919
Speaker 2: you love and care about this type of stuff. Knuckle

1521
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 2: Mania six is coming to Philly February seventh. In your

1522
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 2: main event, Ben ro Ben Rothwell will defend his BKFC

1523
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 2: heavyweight championship in a combat trilogy against Andre Arlovski. If

1524
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 2: you recall, Rothwell was knocked out by Rolovsky in the

1525
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 2: Affliction Banner and then took a decision loss years later

1526
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 2: in UFC. In your co main event, light heavyweight Champion

1527
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 2: Lorenzo Hunt will defend against the ageless Cuban Missile Crisis

1528
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,440
Speaker 2: as Luke calls him, Joel Romero.

1529
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 1: Yes, no Cuban muscle crisis muscle.

1530
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 2: Cra butchered that. While I'm here to announce these two

1531
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 2: matchups to find out whether Luke actually cares, I'm really

1532
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 2: here just to play crazy BKFC highlights from that president.

1533
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 2: But Luke first and foremost you care once in a

1534
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 2: while when BKFC rolls out at MMA inspired matchup? Do

1535
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 2: you care about either of these?

1536
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 1: I will say this, The Ben Rothwell one is intriguing

1537
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 1: to me because I like Ben. I think Ben's a

1538
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: good guy. And what's interesting BC is Ben is actually

1539
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 1: very talented as a full on martial artist. He's a

1540
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 1: black belt in jiu jitsu, like the guy is. He's

1541
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: been respected and well rounded as a heavyweight since you know,

1542
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 1: I'm Andrew. I became aware of him in the IFL days,

1543
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: the International Fight League days, obviously pre dating well many things.

1544
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: And anyway, what I'm trying to make is what's interesting though,

1545
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: BC is he like if you would imagine anyone like

1546
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: well suited for bare knuckle, which you know doesn't necessarily

1547
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: put the same kind of premium on technical expertise as

1548
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: other combat sports, it would be Ben because he has

1549
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: obviously big power, He's durable as shit, he's you know,

1550
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 1: he's just a big tough dude and he doesn't mind

1551
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: mixing it up. So he's had, you know, an enormous

1552
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: amount of success. Him and Arlowski have already fought a

1553
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: couple of times. Obviously, this is a different rule set,

1554
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 1: different time. We'll see what happens. But I got a

1555
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: little bit of intrigue for that one. Ben Ben Rothwell's

1556
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: career has been an interesting one to follow.

1557
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 2: It has been a shout out to Ben Rothwell, as

1558
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 2: he famously said, only politics can slow me. But I

1559
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: think he forgot you. Sada slowed him for a couple

1560
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 2: of years as well. But I'm here to see Joel

1561
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: Romero in any form of combat. But I'm only doing

1562
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 2: this so I can show you this wacky sound the

1563
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: first one. I don't know this guy's name. He looks

1564
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: like Joe Pifer, but this is your SoundBite of the week.

1565
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 3: But uh, me and me and crazy yours. It's it's

1566
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 3: what they call me, mister. Movie scenes. Movie scenes, that's

1567
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 3: all it's gonna be. You know what I mean, We're

1568
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 3: gonna put on a fucking show. It's gonna go however

1569
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 3: I want it. You know, it's definitely not gonna go

1570
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 3: five rounds because I don't get paid for overtime. But uh,

1571
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 3: like I like I said, I might even strip him

1572
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 3: naked in there too. I don't know, we'll see you know, raw,

1573
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 3: no spit, no lu cheese.

1574
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: Grater right fist right up his fucking end. I don't know,

1575
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: however I wanted to go. But yeah, it's gonna be

1576
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 1: a great time.

1577
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 2: Really, no react? How do you have no reaction to that?

1578
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 2: That is just wild?

1579
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: Am I supposed to have other than revulsion and sadness?

1580
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: All right?

1581
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 2: Cheese Greater Style, Luke, no lube? Okay?

1582
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 10: Wow.

1583
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 2: By the way, Long Island Luke reminding us that Parker Porter,

1584
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: Connecticut combat legend, will be headlining at BKFC show tomorrow

1585
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 2: night at the Mohegan Sun there in Connecticut. I will

1586
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 2: not be in attendance. We have one other video to

1587
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: show you. You know this gimmick this one fighter has

1588
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: where he brings the canoli to the fight all the time.

1589
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 1: I think I've seen something like that.

1590
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he threw it. Watch this and there you go.

1591
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 2: Look that's entertainment for the family. Cheese Greater Style. Indeed,

1592
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 2: let's keep a moving here in the news cycle. Twenty

1593
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 2: twenty five PFL featherweight champion Mavelin Kabulayev. If I'm pronouncing

1594
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 2: that Abu Lajevuh tested positive for a band drug known

1595
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 2: as recombinent ero three pyotan pyotr ya.

1596
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Hell yeah, bro, you nailed that.

1597
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 2: And he has been suspended for one year by USADA.

1598
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 2: The thirty five year old was also stripped of his

1599
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 2: PFL belt. And Luke, he's yet another Team Hobba member

1600
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 2: to pop dirty. Not the big four Team hobby members

1601
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 2: who are setting a new style and trend of dominance

1602
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 2: in MMA, but those other guys. Your thoughts, Luke on

1603
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 2: kabulay testing positive for recombinant erothropiotrin.

1604
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, E p O is what that means?

1605
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 2: All right? So why didn't they just say that? I mean,

1606
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 2: come on, you know what I mean, Like, what's going on?

1607
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 1: If you were st ruggle in through that?

1608
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah.

1609
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: There's been a bunch of guys in this camp that

1610
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 1: have had some issues. Now, some of them I'm more

1611
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: partial to as excusable. For example, at the time in

1612
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: which I believe Islam was hemmed up for maldonium, that

1613
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: was a time where a bunch of Russian athletes were

1614
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: simply taking it even as like a health marker. That's

1615
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 1: not to say that there wasn't some benefits conferred from it,

1616
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: but there was just a lot of practices at that

1617
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: time that were to me not as much of an

1618
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: issue as you know, the EPO one is pretty bad, right,

1619
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: that's sort of getting caught with your with your pants down.

1620
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, I mean, you know, there have been five

1621
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:42,879
Speaker 1: of these happening now. Had an issue, Islam's had an issue,

1622
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: mobiles had an issue. To Google I believe had an issue,

1623
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 1: and another one too, you know, I mean, this is

1624
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:56,440
Speaker 1: what I was I Drugs are here both through contamination

1625
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: and elected use or on occasion neglectful use. Like there's

1626
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 1: many different use cases, and I don't think that it's

1627
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: a great thing that we live in a world with

1628
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: these kinds of blurred lines anymore. It definitely makes people

1629
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: have questions about the integrity of the problem. I understand,

1630
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: We've been over this, I understand the concerns, and I'm

1631
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 1: just going to keep going back to the same response.

1632
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 1: Show me a sport that's eradicated it, and then show

1633
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: me what methods they used, and tell me that can

1634
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: work here, and of course we know that the answer

1635
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 1: is that they can't, Like there's some level of the

1636
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: drugs having. The drugs are here and you just have

1637
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 1: to kind of mitigate them as they are. Now that

1638
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: being said, BC, I have no problem with PFL changing

1639
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: the results of all of this. I have no problem

1640
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 1: with the PFL awarding a new winner and giving them money.

1641
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: I have no problem with any of these changes, nor

1642
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 1: the ill repute that might happen to an athlete who

1643
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 1: gets caught in this way or the team that they're

1644
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: associated with. I just you know, people keep waiting for

1645
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: some imaginary day where we'll have a great answer to this,

1646
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 1: and all we need is just a little bit more

1647
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: toughness about the attitude. And that's just as magical thinking.

1648
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 1: Some level, some level, maybe not in this case, but

1649
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: some level of accommodating to the just the unfortunate nature

1650
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 1: of reality is the only path forward in my view.

1651
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 2: Maybe when they say two to three years in d

1652
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 2: Augustan and forget it, they mean that's the amount of

1653
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 2: time that it takes to get it all through yr yeah.

1654
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 1: Out, or to just bake in a bunch of changes

1655
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,759
Speaker 1: that they can't take out later. You know so.

1656
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: True, Let's keep it going with some fight announcements. Leo

1657
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 2: Gimaris reporting that the UFC three twenty six pay per

1658
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 2: view March seventh in Las Vegas. Of course, the BMF

1659
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 2: title rematch atop that card of Max Holloway versus Charles

1660
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 2: du Bronx Olivera has some updates in the middleweight division. Now,

1661
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 2: it's expected that when Hamza Chamaiah of the current champion

1662
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 2: makes his first defense, it'll come against Nasardine Imovov. So

1663
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 2: if that's true, these two matchups on you see three

1664
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 2: twenty six make a lot of sense. Paulo Costa ready

1665
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 2: to welcome Bruno Fajeda and We'rener de Ritter, fresh off

1666
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 2: that exhaustion loss to Brendan Allen, will take on Kyo Bohalio,

1667
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: who just suffered a step up loss of his own

1668
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 2: against Imovov. Luke, are you in on this matchmaking? If

1669
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 2: this report is true.

1670
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 1: Paulo Costa has fallen on hard times. I don't even

1671
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: know if he's going to beat Bruno Fajeda. I think

1672
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: he can, but I just don't even know what we

1673
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: got with him anymore. But I got to tell you

1674
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: that already are Kyle Bohalio fight. I actually love that

1675
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 1: because obviously it's a good pairing based on where they

1676
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: are in the rankings, but both of them have a

1677
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,759
Speaker 1: little bit to prove here. KYO was I thought pretty

1678
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: flat against Imovov, and RDR completely fell apart against Brendan Allen.

1679
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: Now I hope in both cases that they're rested into

1680
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 1: the extent possible healthy and like you know, much more

1681
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: able to rather than keeping a streak alive or a

1682
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: push alive to make a peak effort at winning here.

1683
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,640
Speaker 1: But I really really liked it. I just think on

1684
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 1: the Paulo Costa side, man, dude, he's fun on hard times. Like,

1685
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a bum opponent, but this was

1686
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 1: a guy that they were saying was going to fight

1687
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: for a title and did fight for a title. Obviously

1688
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 1: against is he and could do something and he is

1689
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 1: we're a far cry from that.

1690
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. That is. We'll see

1691
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: how those matchups break down, But I want to see

1692
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 2: if r DR can bounce back. Was he just riding

1693
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 2: a hot streak and it was too much too soon?

1694
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 2: There's an important fight for whatever future he's got here

1695
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 2: atop this division. Our final little bit of news came

1696
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 2: from a podcast I've been digging, Dominic Cruz's Love and

1697
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 2: War podcast. Maybe not so much the Maton episode, but

1698
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 2: the ones where he brings on former opponents and talks

1699
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 2: true about their history. This time, though, he had famed

1700
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 2: MMA referee Herb Dean on to discuss fouls and the

1701
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 2: idea of automatic points. We've got a video, We've got

1702
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 2: a quote. Let's go to the video first.

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01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 12: I pokes grind shots. Are we going to start taking

1704
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 12: away points right away? Is that something that can happen?

1705
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 12: Is that even an option?

1706
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 9: What about the time when John Jones has his hand

1707
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 9: on Cormier's face, finger goes in cormier zion.

1708
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 6: Cormier looks and goes and poke me in the eye.

1709
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 4: You think I should have took a point?

1710
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 12: I think that it's not up to you, And the

1711
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 12: problem is they're giving you a choice, so then it's hard.

1712
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:14,440
Speaker 1: So it should have been automatic.

1713
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 12: I think I poke should be an automatic. Then also

1714
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 12: you hear Jones say I did it? I do I

1715
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 12: poke guys on purpose?

1716
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1717
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 2: I don't think that one was on purpose?

1718
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 12: This one?

1719
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 2: Huh Oh, well, I don't know about that.

1720
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 1: One.

1721
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 2: No, I was talking about it totally.

1722
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 12: Wait, but it's like, dude, like Jones talks about it

1723
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 12: like he does it on purpose. At the end of

1724
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 12: the day, people are using these things to because it's

1725
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 12: a death match.

1726
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 2: All is fair in love and war.

1727
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 1: It just is.

1728
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 12: That's how we're h I'm not gonna lie like I

1729
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 12: get John Jones doing that.

1730
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 11: We're gonna be treating situations like that one I think differently.

1731
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke, Dean would go on to say about that

1732
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 2: DC John fight. Okay, so I have my hand on

1733
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 2: your head, controlling your head perfectly. Fine, you don't like that.

1734
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 2: You don't want your head controlled, and you start moving

1735
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 2: your head around wildly, and then all of a sudden

1736
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 2: you get a finger in your eye. You actually put

1737
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 2: your eye on a finger, because yeah, you're doing the

1738
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 2: right thing, but the way you chose to do it.

1739
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 2: You didn't choose to back off. You started rolling your

1740
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 2: head and somehow a finger got near your eye. What

1741
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying is that's why we can't make these things automatic,

1742
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 2: meaning point deductions. That's why there has to be discretion,

1743
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 2: because I know you don't think that makes sense. End quote.

1744
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 2: So Luke, what Dean is basically saying, is there should

1745
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 2: be no hard and fast rule because sometimes it's the

1746
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,640
Speaker 2: guy who got poke's fault for walking into it. I

1747
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 2: don't know, dude, I just feel like if you change

1748
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,719
Speaker 2: the rule and say you poke, you lose a point,

1749
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 2: pokes go away, they go away quick.

1750
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: I have mixed feelings about herb Deane's response here BC

1751
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 1: because I was looking at someone who was showing U

1752
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 1: I watch I watched Film Breakdown and basically every sport,

1753
01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 1: and I watched one on the NBA last night on

1754
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 1: who's the guy shy gilgis what's his last name? Sga, Yeah,

1755
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: And he does this bit where he'll he'll as he

1756
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: it's not He's not the only one. But the guy

1757
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: was showing consistently he jumps into a standing guard to

1758
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 1: draw a foul. Like he doesn't come up and down.

1759
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 1: He purposely comes up and then almost like jackknifes into

1760
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: them to get a call. He's got like this really

1761
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 1: really weird jumping motion that he does. And I'm not

1762
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: here to like say the analysis is great or whatever

1763
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 1: you can decide that, but like there is a real

1764
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,759
Speaker 1: possibility where someone could just like not be doing anything

1765
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 1: and then someone else moves into them to potentially draw

1766
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: a foul, although Herb is kind of claiming the opposite here,

1767
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 1: whereas someone is just doing this and it's like you

1768
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: moved your hand into their face, and it's like, what, Like,

1769
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1770
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 2: He's saying, you moved your head into their hands, so

1771
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 2: it's your fall.

1772
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:00,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm like I can understand and the idea

1773
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 1: that someone is just defending and if you move into

1774
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 1: a standard defense, that's one thing, But like, how do

1775
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 1: you move your head into someone's fingers if their hands

1776
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 1: are like this, Yeah, especially a distance like it, would

1777
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 1: you have to come over on top. And if their

1778
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 1: hands are on your head like that and then they

1779
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 1: slide down, it's the fault of the guy who's sliding down. Like,

1780
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm with Herb that I'm not necessarily in favor of

1781
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 1: automatic point deductions. I think that can cause some problems

1782
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 1: that we don't necessarily want. My issue is they should

1783
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: be much more willing to pull the trigger on a

1784
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 1: point deduction. And the idea that like, oh, the problem

1785
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 1: here is guys are just moving their heads into people's fingers.

1786
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: It does not strike me as the strongest analysis I've

1787
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 1: ever heard so I'm kind of between I'm between Herb

1788
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 1: and then between Dom on this one.

1789
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 2: Now I'm opposite Herb on this. It's like, that's why

1790
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 2: we made a rule that guys just can't take their

1791
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 2: peace out in front of chicks like casually randomly, unless

1792
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:01,440
Speaker 2: you're Brian Callen, because like doesn't matter of the accidental

1793
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 2: intent or no, you walked into my dong, it just

1794
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 2: happened to be out. Like, No, that's inappropriate, brother, Okay,

1795
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 2: Like that's as sault right, Like that is not the

1796
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 2: direction we're looking to go with this show. Apparently, all right, brook,

1797
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 2: there we go. That's yeah, I won't be here much longer,

1798
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 2: folks than Yeah, this is the uh, this is the

1799
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 2: retirement tour. That's good. Okay. Hey, those are our five

1800
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 2: topics today. Hope you enjoyed them. Our last bit of

1801
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 2: effort here today is to offer you, the fans, a

1802
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 2: chance to have your shit scene. H Morning Combat at

1803
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 2: gmail dot com is your gateway to find out, right,

1804
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 2: Mikey's on the other end of it. Show them your goods.

1805
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 2: If you're into that, please don't throw in real life.

1806
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 2: But uh, we got dead wrongs, we got fans, subs

1807
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 2: and up first, we go back on trial once a

1808
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:49,680
Speaker 2: week on Budsman style to face the music. Did we

1809
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 2: say something incorrect, insensitive or just wrong? Right into the

1810
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,560
Speaker 2: show and find out, But you better have a timestamp.

1811
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 2: This one's called did wrong.

1812
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 1: Then wrong?

1813
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 2: All right? Our first one comes to us from TJ,

1814
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,600
Speaker 2: who says, hello, Luke BC in Long Island. This is

1815
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 2: TJ from the city of Victoria in beautiful British Columbia, Canada,

1816
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 2: and at one hour and thirty nine minutes of Monday Show,

1817
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 2: when talking about Christmas movies, Luke says the Netflix animated

1818
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 2: movie Klaus with a K won an Academy Award. Luke,

1819
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 2: you're dead wrong. Claus was nominated for Best Animated Feature

1820
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, but Toy Story four ended up winning

1821
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 2: the honor.

1822
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 1: Luke, your mister nominated. That's right.

1823
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:43,839
Speaker 2: Your mileage may vary when it comes to the Academy Awards,

1824
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 2: and you may surmise that this rectification is neither here

1825
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 2: nor there, but you were simply dead wrong and should

1826
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 2: take the l with grace.

1827
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 1: BC.

1828
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 2: I wish you all the success in your elevated CBS

1829
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 2: career moving forward. You have become an invaluable part of MK,

1830
01:33:58,160 --> 01:33:59,640
Speaker 2: and no one else could have done what you have

1831
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 2: done to make MK what it is today. Thank you

1832
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 2: very much. You'll be greatly missed, and just know that

1833
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 2: you are leaving an MK legacy that will never be duplicated.

1834
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 2: Wishing Luke, BC and Nocita and all their families a

1835
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 2: joyous season. A thankful Donk. It's TJ Luke You taking

1836
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 2: that l or one?

1837
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take it all right.

1838
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Our final one comes from a

1839
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 2: fella from the Islands. They call him Daz Luke.

1840
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 1: Back up on that as and give these motherfuckers a

1841
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 1: blast from the past.

1842
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 2: You think it. Daz likes to get up on that thing.

1843
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: Cheese, greater stars.

1844
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Well done, dad says Aloha Donks

1845
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 2: and Aloha BC for one last time on MK. Well,

1846
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 2: I got a few more in me daths. On Monday Show,

1847
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 2: December fifteenth, at one twenty five during have You Seen

1848
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 2: This Shit? A woman video bombs a live broadcast and

1849
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:59,879
Speaker 2: yell's expletives. LT and BC hypothesize on the city of origin,

1850
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 2: posting Philadelphia. While that is a good guest, the broadcast

1851
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 2: is from New England slash Massachusetts as the lower third

1852
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 2: has Patriots defeat Giants and based on other statements made

1853
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 2: by the reporter about the team's upcoming bye week. This

1854
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 2: is from the twenty twenty five season, when the Giants

1855
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 2: played the Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough. Apologies for

1856
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 2: being so pedantic, but please know how much I and

1857
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 2: so many others appreciate MK for the joy it brings us,

1858
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 2: the levity it provides us when we go through hard times,

1859
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 2: and especially that chemistry between BC and LT. We will

1860
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 2: miss you daarly.

1861
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 7: BC.

1862
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 2: I salute you, dazz, But Luke is his dead wrong

1863
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 2: wrong because we dead wrong ourselves.

1864
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 1: In the moment I thought we did.

1865
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, we pointed out that it said Giants, New England,

1866
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 5: so we knew it was either New England or New York.

1867
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 1: But I mean I definitely said go Birds, But I

1868
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 1: was just sort of like making a joke about being

1869
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 1: ornery in an NFL parking lot. But yeah, yes, dirtback

1870
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 1: fans exist everywhere.

1871
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 2: But thank you Daz for always being there for us.

1872
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 2: We appreciate you just the same, Thank you very much.

1873
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 2: Our final segment is called fan Submissions. Let's see which

1874
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 2: one's made it through the censors this week. We've got

1875
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 2: male viewers. Yeah, yeah, you've got mail fures. All right,

1876
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 2: let's see how many times we can fit Saoul into

1877
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 2: a sh medium here. First one comes from Mark Antoine,

1878
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 2: who says, hello, donks needless to say. I am gutted

1879
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 2: to see BC leave the show, but I'm also happy

1880
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 2: it will continue despite the huge hole he will leave behind.

1881
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm curious as to see who will fill that hole. Anyway,

1882
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 2: Here's a meme I made to cope with the grief

1883
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 2: I feel knowing that this era of my favorite show

1884
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:47,719
Speaker 2: is coming to an end. What does that say?

1885
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: Are we finally done with pay per views? So that's goodmora.

1886
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: And this is where Thanos in Infinity War is trying

1887
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:00,720
Speaker 1: to get the soul Stone. In order to get the Soulstone,

1888
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: he has to kill Gomorra, who is you know, essentially

1889
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 1: his adopted daughter. And there's a scene there where he

1890
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 1: has to act or she asks him, you know what

1891
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 1: did it cost in this kind of like I don't

1892
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,760
Speaker 1: know if it's like a false memory or some kind

1893
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 1: of image thing, but and he has the answer was everything,

1894
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 1: because he had to kill his daughter. So in this

1895
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 1: particular case, it's the Brian Campbell experience and then you

1896
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,879
Speaker 1: and me going tip to tip at the MMA Awards

1897
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 1: circa twenty twenty one or whatever that was.

1898
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 5: I want to say that Menietsche sent this in the

1899
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 5: group chat yesterday.

1900
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 2: Shut out manic, Yes, yes, all right, well done people.

1901
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 2: I guess we can only laugh on our sufferings.

1902
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: There.

1903
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 2: Mark ontom Barrio do Sile says, thank you BC for

1904
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 2: your relentless positivity. Shine on you, crazy Diamond, appreciate that.

1905
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 2: Our second one comes from King Kim Bong, who says, RIPBC.

1906
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 2: He is not dead, he's just watching strawweights in peace

1907
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 2: now actually in person.

1908
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 4: Now.

1909
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. Here are some memes. I would love

1910
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 2: for LT to rate the ten. I'm the last one.

1911
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 2: What do we got here?

1912
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 1: First of all, it's the worst photoshop I've ever seen.

1913
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 1: All Right, So this is the scene in episode three

1914
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 1: where Ewan McGregor, Owen McGregor, whatever the fuck his name is.

1915
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 1: He's talking as we want to to Anakin and he's like,

1916
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,839
Speaker 1: you were the chosen one. You were to bring balance

1917
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 1: to MK, not leave it in this case, balance to

1918
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:36,600
Speaker 1: the force. And then he just replies, I love Stralways

1919
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 1: so good.

1920
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: Here's the next one. I cannot read that print.

1921
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:39,639
Speaker 4: Lke whe do you go.

1922
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:44,719
Speaker 1: From the Lion King? This is where Mufasa is trying

1923
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 1: to explain to Simbo, like what part of their kingdom

1924
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 1: is theirs? And he says everything the light touches is

1925
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 1: a part of BC's personality, to which Symbol replies, but

1926
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 1: what's that shadowy place over there? Oh? That's uh, that's

1927
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 1: LT's personality. He is miserable and self loathing. That's where

1928
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 1: the Hyaenas were in the elephant graveyard. I believe, right,

1929
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 1: well done. When are you having a nice convo with

1930
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 1: your wife? Then? Remember there is strawweight mma online? Kay?

1931
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:21,600
Speaker 2: And do we have one? Whether rate that tat or no?

1932
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 2: Do we not?

1933
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 4: Those were the three we got from kimbong Il. Maybe

1934
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 4: it didn't make the cut, but those are.

1935
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 2: The three, okay, Kim Bong would add, as North Korea

1936
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 2: Supreme Leader, I have already approved these for the show. Cheers,

1937
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 2: Kim Bong eel, thank you very much. Let's go to Fernando.

1938
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 2: He says, you're breaking our hearts. You beage bastard hoping

1939
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 2: this art I made will eat you up inside. Let's

1940
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 2: see it. Oh, come on, GPS has been there all along. Okay,

1941
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:49,879
Speaker 2: they have been.

1942
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: No talk about shots fired. We should have saved it

1943
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 1: for this segment.

1944
01:39:54,640 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is wow. Okay, okay, I see it there.

1945
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean, none of that's true, but it's funny.

1946
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 2: Well done, Fernando, appreciate you. Next is who'll see what's

1947
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 2: the name here? No name? We got no name? It says,

1948
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 2: if you show all of the memes I make, please

1949
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 2: keep my name anonymous, as I would like to have

1950
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 2: a job. Okay, this person anonymously writes, well fuck. Like

1951
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 2: many American families, this marriage did not make it, and

1952
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:32,879
Speaker 2: it is up for us, the MK children to absorb

1953
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 2: the trauma. In all seriousness, BC, some of these memes

1954
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 2: may look like I am making fun of you for leaving.

1955
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 2: On the contrary, congrats, and I wish you good luck

1956
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:42,639
Speaker 2: on your job. I wish your family well. I will

1957
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 2: miss you in your skits and bits. The last two,

1958
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 2: in particularly the last one, probably will not make it

1959
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 2: past the North Korean censors. I still would like to

1960
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 2: see the live reaction to those if possible, even if

1961
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 2: they're not shown on a screen. Remember, these are all

1962
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 2: in good fun. What do you got here? Long island

1963
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:02,719
Speaker 2: fair Fair Elta.

1964
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 1: That's a fair trade yep, big yep. Yeah, I don't

1965
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 1: quite get the chain of custody, but.

1966
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 2: But happy get catching some strays in there for being

1967
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 2: in his underwear and your typical mk pregame preview LC.

1968
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 1: Providing technical analysis with the mean looking dragon, Chuck describing

1969
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 1: the storyline with a mean looking dragon, and then the

1970
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,760
Speaker 1: the less intense one BC with Dale Senior and other

1971
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:34,719
Speaker 1: skits and bits. Yeah, that's about right.

1972
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 2: Is that all of them? Long outlook? Yeah?

1973
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 4: This was also the guy who sent the ones that

1974
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 4: we showed in the text thing.

1975
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 2: Dude, we didn't we that Dale Senior one I left

1976
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 2: for like five They did not get.

1977
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 6: It.

1978
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:50,640
Speaker 1: There was a Dale Senior meme that BC was in

1979
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:52,919
Speaker 1: favor of I was okay with, but the North Korean

1980
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 1: censor said no.

1981
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,759
Speaker 2: Oh wow uh. This person unnamed says, may all your horrors,

1982
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 2: questionable fitness supplements, and potential predatory loans be loyal. Wow.

1983
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 2: That is great stuff from the people Morning Coombat at

1984
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 2: gmail dot com. If you want to reach us before

1985
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 2: the end of my run here or just in the future,

1986
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:14,879
Speaker 2: say hi. I send your fan subs and dead wrongs.

1987
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:18,600
Speaker 2: Say hi to mikey as well. Also, today's episode is

1988
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 2: presented by draftings draftings, The Crown is yours. Look. I

1989
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 2: received the DM yesterday from one David Appleton, who said,

1990
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 2: as a latch stitch effort, BC, can you please get

1991
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 2: the final doncumentary made so we can see the London footage?

1992
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 2: Will that ever come to light? Because we not only

1993
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 2: shot in London with all the people that were at

1994
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 2: that show, we then shot a few times in our

1995
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 2: last days in the bunker in Jersey City when we

1996
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 2: were talking about the end of showtime, and then we

1997
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 2: also shot a year later when we were going into

1998
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 2: the metal arcs Udo for the first time.

1999
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm not one for predictions about what the future

2000
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 1: is gonna look like anymore. I'll just say I hope.

2001
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,560
Speaker 2: Matt Snyder, if you're watching, can you jump in the

2002
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 2: chat and just say yes or no? Canider? What if

2003
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 2: I just don't get paid for the final month and

2004
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:18,599
Speaker 2: we just put that into the doc fund?

2005
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, like you're gonna take that.

2006
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna take that at all. It's just

2007
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 2: be a nice fund. Yeah, there you go. Let's see

2008
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 2: what Matt says. Your call, all right, my call on that. Yeah,

2009
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 2: I don't even think that's enough to Jake Jake von Amsterdam.

2010
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 2: Very expensive, very expensive he is.

2011
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 1: He is an expensive little diva, is what he is.

2012
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 1: He's worth.

2013
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 4: He's great at it.

2014
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:41,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an artistic I didn't say he was bad.

2015
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: I just said, you know, costly.

2016
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 2: All right, that's our show. We do want to remind

2017
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 2: you about the merch. If you are lamenting me going away,

2018
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 2: you might as well purchase our shit for half off.

2019
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 2: The BC farewell sale at Morningcombat Dot Chop gets you

2020
01:43:56,520 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 2: fifty percent off all BC clothes posters. Dude, you know

2021
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 2: what my biggest lament is. We never got that Reggie

2022
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 2: Jackson T shirt live on the site. Damn it, damn it,

2023
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 2: red it never happened. But you can head it to

2024
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,639
Speaker 2: our website. You can get our December exclusives, the Master

2025
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 2: of the Universe T shirt, the poster, get it autographed

2026
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 2: as well, get it fifty percent off if it's got

2027
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 2: BC on it. Morning Combat Dot Shop new releases every month.

2028
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 2: All proceeds go to the three of us here on

2029
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:30,679
Speaker 2: this show. Thank you very much. LT. Anything to say

2030
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 2: as we head into the weekend here.

2031
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 1: I have a Jake Paul watch along tonight against my

2032
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 1: better judgment, but I'm going to do it, and then

2033
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to sleep for like an hour, and then

2034
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to get in my motherfucking uber to go

2035
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 1: to the airport.

2036
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's update the people on what I have

2037
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 2: left and what we have left together here. So this Monday,

2038
01:44:55,720 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 2: are we doing a live remote show you from Columbia? Yes, okay,

2039
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 2: so that's Monday, December.

2040
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 1: Second.

2041
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:11,599
Speaker 2: Now Friday December twenty sixth. Are we pre recording something?

2042
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have something for the donks, but that might

2043
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 1: be a pre record.

2044
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 2: Okay, And then we'll have Monday, December twenty ninth. I'll

2045
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 2: be there for that too, Friday January second. I believe

2046
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:22,479
Speaker 2: that one.

2047
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm out. Yeah.

2048
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 2: Are we I think we're pre recording something special?

2049
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, probably might be pre recording for something too.

2050
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 2: And then Mark Callen. The final BC n LT episode

2051
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 2: of this iteration of this era is Monday, January fifth,

2052
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:37,840
Speaker 2: live and studio there in Manhattan. So check that out.

2053
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 2: I say this era, Luke, because it's not goodbye. It's

2054
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 2: goodbye for now. You have no idea what's going to

2055
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 2: happen to both of us in the next few years.

2056
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?

2057
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 1: It is a wild and unpredictable time it happening.

2058
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 2: I mean we could be we could be door dashing

2059
01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 2: the same neighborhood one day. You never know.

2060
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 1: I seem to be headed that way.

2061
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 2: Luke Nocina, thank you for your efforts behind the scenes. Today.

2062
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 2: People should check out your live stream as well as

2063
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:04,839
Speaker 2: Luke's tonight.

2064
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 5: They should watch both two screens mute one. You know,

2065
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say who's the mute, but you know,

2066
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:11,639
Speaker 5: yeah you should.

2067
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:13,440
Speaker 1: They should mute yours.

2068
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 4: Also prop Quid's dropping in forty minutes Mike hec versus

2069
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 4: a day Lee. Go check it out.

2070
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 1: That's a fun Is.

2071
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 2: This part of a new bracket for season three?

2072
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:22,479
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2073
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 4: So this is the third matchup of the bracket.

2074
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 5: Fourth matchup will be next week and then we start

2075
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 5: narrowing it down.

2076
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 4: It's the semi first.

2077
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 2: Jose Young's defend his title before that or only at

2078
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 2: the end of season three.

2079
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 5: He'll defend at the end of season three, unless I

2080
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 5: need to plug him in quick for a you know

2081
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 5: a matchup here.

2082
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 2: I mean, lt you know I got you know, I

2083
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 2: got skinned alive by Jose Young's and you know I

2084
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:48,679
Speaker 2: didn't want to be there to watch the end of it. Either.

2085
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:50,719
Speaker 2: Can he be beaten?

2086
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:55,680
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I bet he can, but.

2087
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 2: Is good enough. I think Sigara can do it.

2088
01:46:57,840 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 1: So Gara could do it.

2089
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 5: And I recorded in an episode that's going to air

2090
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 5: next week with someone. I'm not going to spoil who

2091
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 5: it was, but I think they're going to be the

2092
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 5: person who can take on Jose.

2093
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. But I definitely think

2094
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong. I think Jose is

2095
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 1: a formidable competitor. But there might be others.

2096
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, shout out to everybody watching today. We always

2097
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 2: appreciate you guys. All right, seven years in, the show's

2098
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:26,799
Speaker 2: not going away. Follow us like us. You'll be seeing us. Okay,

2099
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 2: that's the deal right there, MK forever. It's not just

2100
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 2: a show, it's a it's a feeling, it's a movement.

2101
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 2: It's an itch deep down in the cheese grater, you

2102
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Full six gross and then spin it. Yeah,

2103
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 2: that's it all right for lt L I L. It's

2104
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:44,639
Speaker 2: BC signing off. Take care of yourself up here, put

2105
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:47,639
Speaker 2: your mental health first. Have a great weekend. Let's hope

2106
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 2: Jake Paul lives tonight on Netflix. Enjoy it. If that's

2107
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 2: your type of thing. We'll be back on Monday. One

2108
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 2: of Us Live from Cartha Hannah