WEBVTT - EYL #65 Bottle Service feat. Nick Storm

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<v Speaker 2>All right, guys, welcome back, earn you a Lisha. We

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<v Speaker 2>got a very special episode today. Yeah, these are my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite episodes me. You know, me and Troy we grew

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<v Speaker 2>up on music before anything, so anytime we get to

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<v Speaker 2>hear backstories on music, entertainment and the whole industry, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's always special for us man.

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<v Speaker 3>To tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just telling Chris got the shout out to Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to Kenny Burns, shout to all the guys

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<v Speaker 2>that that came on and was giving us hilarious stories

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<v Speaker 2>and all that, but also also informational absolutely education. Yeah sure,

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<v Speaker 2>so yes, I say that to say, we have none

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<v Speaker 2>other than the legendary Nick Stormy. Thank you, yeah, one force.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if you don't know Nick, Nick is a

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting guy. He kind of the brain behind the

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<v Speaker 2>blow up of Sorak, is that safe to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Safe to say that?

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<v Speaker 2>Former national brand ambassador for Sarak. So he's a wizard

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<v Speaker 2>in the spirits industry and he got his start in

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<v Speaker 2>the music industry. So we on E Y L we

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<v Speaker 2>cover every aspect of business, and the spirits industry is

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<v Speaker 2>a billion dollars billion dollar industry and it's something that

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't coverage yet. And you have twenty years of

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<v Speaker 2>experience from working with him now, they from working with

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<v Speaker 2>rock from all over, so we thought she was the

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<v Speaker 2>perfect guest to bring on. So first and foremost, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you thank you for coming.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, thank you for having me. He's the first

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<v Speaker 3>guest who brought his.

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<v Speaker 2>Own one, you know, and had a long day, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know what, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>I can drink on the thing. I know, drink Champs,

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<v Speaker 3>you can drink, but I had to bring my own wine.

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<v Speaker 3>Just you know, the smoothing the night. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>fitish's the spirits industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my man Wall Street Trapper shot out to him.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, you know, the one thing I like

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<v Speaker 2>about your podcast is you got just the guests just

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<v Speaker 2>comings they are. There's no dress code, there's no rules.

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<v Speaker 3>Comings you off okay, because you know I had a

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<v Speaker 3>button down on the Yeah I did. And Jay was like, now, Nick,

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<v Speaker 3>go just I was like, shout out to Jeff Tweety

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<v Speaker 3>because he's gonna have some Sean John on on the

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<v Speaker 3>on the shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah my favor Yes, shot shout to my man

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<v Speaker 2>j crew Love. Yes, Lesure in his own right, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for putting this together. We appreciate you. So all right, Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>So can we get your backstory? So you started in

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<v Speaker 2>the music industry. Yeah, right, and that's when people was

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<v Speaker 2>actually making real money in music, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa like real money? This is CDs? Yeah, this was

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<v Speaker 3>CD time, you know, like I interned at Sony and

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<v Speaker 3>it was passing out CDs at night, like at all

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<v Speaker 3>clubs that was popping at that time, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>You name, it was so all right you started as

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<v Speaker 2>an intern.

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<v Speaker 3>As an intern at Sony, I think I got my

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<v Speaker 3>real I want to say this, I got my real

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<v Speaker 3>movement in the music business to learn the music business

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<v Speaker 3>more importantly with a gentleman by the name of Dave Hall.

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<v Speaker 3>Because when Dave got me, he not only just had

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<v Speaker 3>me as like you know, like I was Dave's assistant,

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<v Speaker 3>but slash general man of his studio. And that was

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<v Speaker 3>that entitled a lot because Dave at the time, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>mind you that day's discography was crazy. So you know

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<v Speaker 3>he did all of Mary like biggest first hits on

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<v Speaker 3>on her first one, right, So he did all of

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<v Speaker 3>those tracks and then he was like really his biggest

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<v Speaker 3>next movement was like from Brownstone, Mariah Carey, dream Lover,

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<v Speaker 3>did Fantasy Madonna, you know, Horace Brown intro Now I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Bringing you Back, Yes, you know, and you know, so

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<v Speaker 3>crazy Dave and Eddie f like even think of the

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<v Speaker 3>Living Color, like the song that yeah. Yeah, So Eddie

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<v Speaker 3>and them had the Intouchables and the Untouchables had the

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<v Speaker 3>producers that was under him, you know, because back then

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<v Speaker 3>my guys had like the you know, like you know

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<v Speaker 3>how bad Boy and so yeah, so Dave was a

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<v Speaker 3>part of the Intouchables with Eddie f and them. But

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<v Speaker 3>Dave really gave me like the full movement of like

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<v Speaker 3>knowing exactly studio time, knowing exactly on sampling, like that

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<v Speaker 3>was one of my jobs too. It was like when

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<v Speaker 3>he sampled the record, you had to get it and

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<v Speaker 3>then see what sample it was and then send it

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<v Speaker 3>off and see exactly how much it costs. That was

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<v Speaker 3>like a really big part of the business back then.

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<v Speaker 3>That was like honestly, I used to think it was

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<v Speaker 3>a fun part of my job. So that was when

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<v Speaker 3>you were entering it. Yeah, no, no, that's when I

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<v Speaker 3>got a job.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like a job, go with your title.

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually Dave had talked to me as general manager of DMH.

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<v Speaker 3>So DMH was like Dave Michael Hall, like that was

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<v Speaker 3>his whole production company, you know, and and that was

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<v Speaker 3>like a thing of that and it felt good because see,

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<v Speaker 3>David was for my vernon. I was because it was

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<v Speaker 3>like that whole now, So yeah, so it was like

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<v Speaker 3>it was a good time, not only a good time

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<v Speaker 3>with him, but just a good time of being in

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<v Speaker 3>the business at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, so the music business, you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>scaled that up right at that point in time. At

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<v Speaker 2>some point you was working with nas.

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<v Speaker 3>No, actually no, I was working I was working for

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the records like. So then it was

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<v Speaker 3>that's how when I got into the business. I took

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<v Speaker 3>like some of my musical background, and I always wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to be a promoter because like even in college, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like doing promotions right right, I was like doing

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<v Speaker 3>my little like at Sneaky Pete's, right to doing little

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<v Speaker 3>parties up there. And then I took I took some

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<v Speaker 3>of that knowledge and I went to I met a

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<v Speaker 3>gentleman by the name of John Vasquez over at Justin's.

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<v Speaker 3>And John was the one who was like, Nick, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, I got a Tuesday night open, how about

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<v Speaker 3>you put something together. I was like, bat, let's do

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<v Speaker 3>it like a little industry Tuesdays. So what I was

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<v Speaker 3>doing was taking the little snippets of the albums that

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<v Speaker 3>was coming out on Sony and Colombia. So I would

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<v Speaker 3>take those albums bring them to Justine like on Monday

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<v Speaker 3>and start promoting like your industry Tuesdays and be like yo, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>sneak peaking of Lauren Hill's album Tuesday Night at Justin's

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<v Speaker 3>Like Lauryn Hill's gonna be there, No but the snippets,

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<v Speaker 3>So I would I would do that. So any artists

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<v Speaker 3>on Columbia, So anything on Columbia, Fuji's Cypress Hill. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean the list goes on Riah, but the list goes

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<v Speaker 3>on any but anything out of not only Columbia. But

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<v Speaker 3>I was Sony as well. I was taking Epic was

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<v Speaker 3>big too, so I was taking anything from there as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So the promoter, so pretty much promoter.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a promoter.

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<v Speaker 2>So promoters always was curious about this. They get how

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<v Speaker 2>did they get paid? They get pieces of the bar.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, Well see back then you had a scalable

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<v Speaker 3>rate of the bar, right like today, everybody's promoter today,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, Like Jesus, but but back

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<v Speaker 3>then it was like you could, you could, you could

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<v Speaker 3>just take. But back then the door was like a

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<v Speaker 3>big thing, right because that's when people had to pay

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<v Speaker 3>to get in the party. Right, those are the good days.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me just stop there. Okay, those were the good

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<v Speaker 3>old days, like pay for to get in the party,

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<v Speaker 3>go to the bar, buy a drink and dance your

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<v Speaker 3>ass off. Go back to the bar, get some water,

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<v Speaker 3>and go back on the Hans floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are those days about.

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<v Speaker 3>And come on, that was that? I mean, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>but that was vi P. That's when you when you

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<v Speaker 3>was VIP back then, you mean something oh god like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But beyond that velvet rope that was really really Now

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<v Speaker 3>anybody's in the velvet rope. My man Joe from the

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<v Speaker 3>block is on the velvet rope. But no, but but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so I think, but promoters get paid on bar sales.

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<v Speaker 3>So but back then when I was getting I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>how I was getting paid was just bringing a good

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<v Speaker 3>night to the venue. So they were just doing like

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<v Speaker 3>a flat ray like you do this, that's good that

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<v Speaker 3>this is what you're gonna get probably like make three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred four hundred bucks. I was good though, Like that

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<v Speaker 3>was like a good night for me. It was cool

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<v Speaker 3>and then and didn't really put the pressure on you

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<v Speaker 3>with you know, like bar guarantee, like everybody like a

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<v Speaker 3>bar guarantee, Like somebody give you a venue for a

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<v Speaker 3>bar guarantee of three thousand and four thousand dollars. You

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<v Speaker 3>better hope that you make that guarantee.

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<v Speaker 2>You that bar.

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<v Speaker 3>Guarantee is like, okay, I'm gonna give you I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>give you justice on a Monday night. Your bar guarantee

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<v Speaker 3>is four grand. That means my bar gotta make four grand.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you going there, and you better do your promotion.

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<v Speaker 3>Now your bar come up short at three grand, you

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<v Speaker 3>got cover. You better cover that thousand. Yeah, and now

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<v Speaker 3>you got to cover that thousand for that four even

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<v Speaker 3>to guarantee, are you just taking a percentage of it

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<v Speaker 3>or you getting the whole thing? The whole thing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just like that's but even now we have

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<v Speaker 3>a scalable right now, so now people are doing like,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, let's just say your bar guarantee was three thousand, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but now I'm gonna make the three thousand. But if

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<v Speaker 3>my ball makes four. So it's like if you if

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<v Speaker 3>your ball makes four thousand, you're supposed to get ten

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<v Speaker 3>percent your ball makes a See that's sometimes they do

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<v Speaker 3>this so they you can go between three thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna get fifteen percent of the bar. You do

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<v Speaker 3>five to ten, you're gonna get twenty percent of the bar.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why, like everybody, that's why, of course you push

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<v Speaker 3>ball service so much, because you want your ball to

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<v Speaker 3>really ring numbers as a promoter so that you can

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<v Speaker 3>get paid out a lot more at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the night.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you this as far as if

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<v Speaker 2>you get ten thousand, Like once you reach that ten thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>do you get twenty percent of everything or just a

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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand twenty percent of five to ten? Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>you said it's ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, see most places, that's that's that's that's different place. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's different from everybody else, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>Like most places will do that off the ten or

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<v Speaker 3>most places will be doing off the twenty. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it depends on their account.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, all right, So then it's from there, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you got it. And then you say you got

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<v Speaker 2>the Monday Night football.

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<v Speaker 3>I had Monday Night Football popping. I had Industry Tuesdays popping,

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<v Speaker 3>and and I just I just wanted to be with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's when like New York was like New York,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was like it was like a really good

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<v Speaker 3>scene and you and then and you just really wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to be a promoter at that time because it just

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<v Speaker 3>I mean there was a lot of promoters at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I think the biggest promotion company at the

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<v Speaker 3>time that you wanted to be a part of, but

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<v Speaker 3>they already had their crew was Black Diamonds. That was

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<v Speaker 3>like Derrick Carley, like from aj Callaway, like all of

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<v Speaker 3>them they had is like this grew and then and

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<v Speaker 3>it was like like they did really good events, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was really for like us. It was like African American,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, with jobs like like you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I remember this place, Derek Wild laugh if you

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<v Speaker 3>ever hear this, because a place called all bet on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>All the women in there that were all women with jobs,

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<v Speaker 3>all guys. But you know it's funny. You couldn't even

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<v Speaker 3>come in there with sneakers. That's how crazy it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you had to have your shoe game on the people.

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<v Speaker 2>People forget about the like I remember that era where

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<v Speaker 2>you had to actually dress up hard bottoms and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to have a college shirt. It was like

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<v Speaker 3>button down and some shoes and then if you didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have a shoe, like I remember one time he said

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<v Speaker 3>if you didn't have a shoe. You had to have

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<v Speaker 3>a sneaker. You know those sneakers like they almost look

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<v Speaker 3>like the shoot, like a Bally's something like that. You

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<v Speaker 3>were good with that, like the right on the prod yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Favor all right. So so so you became a big

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<v Speaker 2>name in the city from promoting parties.

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<v Speaker 3>Small name, but small name, but making big relationships. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>relationships was very a bit a bigger key.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the next thing. Because you're a renaissance man,

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<v Speaker 2>you do a lot of different things. So you you

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<v Speaker 2>build a name for yourself in a party, then do

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<v Speaker 2>you go to the spirits industry after that or this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Well right then and there I met a me

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<v Speaker 3>and a partner of mine Ebone Brown. She was actually

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<v Speaker 3>a partner of mine that he was doing some summer

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<v Speaker 3>parties together and one of the she ended up meeting

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that wanted to meet me, and I ended

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<v Speaker 3>up meeting both of them, two gentlemen by the name

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<v Speaker 3>of Raphael and Solomon. And I met them at her

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<v Speaker 3>at a coffee shop on forty ninth Street and ninth Avenue.

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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't even know what the meeting was about.

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<v Speaker 3>She was just like Nick, meet these two gentlemen. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they want to sponsor our next party, but they

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<v Speaker 3>have this liquor brand. I was like, okay, cool, this

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<v Speaker 3>is me. This is the mean, this is this is

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<v Speaker 3>the pulp fiction me.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the mean.

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<v Speaker 3>When you have like the good brother which was Solomon

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<v Speaker 3>and the bad brother Raphael, and he was talking about

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<v Speaker 3>what they had and this that, and they had a

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<v Speaker 3>briefcase on the table. So every time he would say, so,

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<v Speaker 3>do you think you can get this product to puff Daddy?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll be like, well, I promoted at his restaurant,

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<v Speaker 3>so maybe. So the brother will be like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so we want to show you, and as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>he lifts up the briefcase, his brother will slam it

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<v Speaker 3>down boom.

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<v Speaker 2>Not yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think you can get this product into the

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<v Speaker 3>hands of the African Americans consumers? Yeah? I think I can.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to open up that suitcase and let me see. No,

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<v Speaker 3>not yet. And it was like a really funny meaning,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was like, okay, let me step back. So

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<v Speaker 3>I got the product in my hand and I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know anything about liquor. I knew how to drink it,

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<v Speaker 3>but that was it. But then he took it and

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<v Speaker 3>then the funny story is, uh, I got a call

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<v Speaker 3>that week from a friend that was doing a party

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<v Speaker 3>at a mansion and he asked me, He said, Nick,

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<v Speaker 3>do you have any you know, anybody I can get

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<v Speaker 3>some liquor from. And I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I got six cases that I could actually give you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good story. And he gave me the six cases,

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<v Speaker 3>and I brought it up to Bedford, New York and

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<v Speaker 3>was a mansion party and had everybody there from music

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<v Speaker 3>execs on down to the whole industry, from fashion, sports,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of I would say, stylists. It just was

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<v Speaker 3>everybody that you can imagine. And I brought it down there.

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<v Speaker 3>We were having a good time, and I remember the

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<v Speaker 3>creative the catering lady came to me within inside the party,

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<v Speaker 3>mid into the party and said that I'm a need

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<v Speaker 3>more product of that blue stuff that you had. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, what is it? I mean you couldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>because wait a minute, I gave you six cases, six

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<v Speaker 3>in the case six times? How many how many in

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<v Speaker 3>the case six cases? It's six in the case, six cases.

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<v Speaker 3>That's thirty six. No way in the world that someone

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<v Speaker 3>went through half that product already and the party is

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<v Speaker 3>just like two hours in. So she's like, no, you

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<v Speaker 3>need to come with me. So I came to her

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<v Speaker 3>and it was like a beautiful deck but over deck,

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<v Speaker 3>overlooking the deck was the pool and like the area,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was two bars set up. And as I

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<v Speaker 3>looked over, you know, and she was trying to show

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<v Speaker 3>me what the bar was doing, I noticed that everybody

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<v Speaker 3>in their clear cup. Everything was blue. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>talking but I'm talking about like this everybody. I'm not everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying about male, female, Latino, white, black unit like

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<v Speaker 3>everybody and just enjoying it and having a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember walking up to one of the guys

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<v Speaker 3>and I said to him, I said what you drinking

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<v Speaker 3>and he was like I don't know, man, but this this,

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<v Speaker 3>this is good. I think it's like some alis a

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh okay. But then I went

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<v Speaker 3>around and asked girls. Everybody was like yo, listen, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>this is fire. So I was like, oh okay. So

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<v Speaker 3>I went to the car and never said nothing in

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<v Speaker 3>that car. I remember calling around Phael and I was say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I need to see you monday. So yeah, ever I

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<v Speaker 3>feel was like back. So I met him on Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>I told him that I'm in. I said, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>give this to go and and and let's go and

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<v Speaker 3>and and and I don't want to stop with this.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, listen, I just sold my condo. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>living with my parents. Now I took the money. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna put it into this brand and and then we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna write, don't I don't have money to pay you

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<v Speaker 3>very key, but if you believe in it, that there'll

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<v Speaker 3>be money to come. And I said, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna need a couple of dollars just to move around.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, no, I got that, but I know you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have money for a salary. But you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in. So I took we took on the brand

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<v Speaker 3>and it was called Hypnotic. It's very right. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>called Hypnoteak. So for the first three months, I sat

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<v Speaker 3>in the car and drove with him around the city

0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:12.119
<v Speaker 3>for three months with hypnoteak. For three months, guys, and

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<v Speaker 3>went around for every club, every bar, every restaurant, you

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<v Speaker 3>name it. And we sold nothing. Ninety days ninety days

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<v Speaker 3>of nothing, and I mean we couldn't sell anything. And

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<v Speaker 3>one night we were about the FDR drive because he

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<v Speaker 3>was getting ready to go back home to the Queen's

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<v Speaker 3>and I had a paper with me and I was

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<v Speaker 3>writing down. You know, he was listening to Gypsy Kings

0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.760
<v Speaker 3>and the music was melolic. He's he's feeling himself. He's like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I could do this anymore like

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<v Speaker 3>and he's, you know, he's like feeling down and depressed

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, he's we've been rocking and rolling and

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<v Speaker 3>we just don't know what's going on. And he said, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I was writing down something. I said, you know, is

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<v Speaker 3>it possible if we could just change the H to

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<v Speaker 3>the Maybe we could put an I in front of

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<v Speaker 3>the P, or maybe we could put a Y, and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe we could change the que to a K. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>like try like a hypnotic. He was like, no, he can't.

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<v Speaker 3>But he paused. He said, you wait a minute. Barrows

0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.280
<v Speaker 3>is called sparrows, but he ain't spelt like, wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what liquor store you got tomorrow? I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I got a store in Harlem, And he said, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, try it. I don't just try it, just

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<v Speaker 3>just see what happens. So the next day I go

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<v Speaker 3>up to a store in Harlem and uh. Guy comes

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<v Speaker 3>in and had to model with me and a minute

0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:43.920
<v Speaker 3>the girl said, excuse me, would you like to try

0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.920
<v Speaker 3>some hypnotic? And the guy turned around and said, oh,

0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.600
<v Speaker 3>I'll try something. He tried it, He's like this is cool.

0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:54.359
<v Speaker 3>I came to buy something else. She was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>no problem. Next guy came in, young black guy. She

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<v Speaker 3>was like, would you like to try some hypnotic? He

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<v Speaker 3>was like gnadic? Oh man, what's that like? Alise? She

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh no, it's different.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's made with fine grapes. It's Kangniac with a little

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<v Speaker 3>touch of vodka.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>She did a little spiro. She gave it to him.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, Yo, this is this is good.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you like the name?

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<v Speaker 3>And I looked at him and like the name? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I walked back called Raphael. I said, Raphael, the

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<v Speaker 3>brand's called Hypnotic period and he was like, Yo, how

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<v Speaker 3>many boles you saw? I said, man, I just sold one,

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<v Speaker 3>but yo, I'm gonna rock with this. So yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>we rocked and we changed your name and we went

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<v Speaker 3>with Hypnotic. And that's not the good part yet, guys,

0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.920
<v Speaker 3>because I still only sold three bottles that day and

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<v Speaker 3>about a fifth month. It's a good story right here,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm and I hope you'll understand this. It's like when

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<v Speaker 3>you take a risk in life and you and you

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<v Speaker 3>take a leap. You got understand that leap and you

0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:05.879
<v Speaker 3>got to stick with it. Because five months and I

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<v Speaker 3>was probably like two months behind on my rent car

0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:13.840
<v Speaker 3>insurance is probably three months lapsed. I'm still working on

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<v Speaker 3>my dream. I'm still going out every day, and I

0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:19.439
<v Speaker 3>can't sell anything. And I was gonna give it all

0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.879
<v Speaker 3>up on that. I was like, you know what, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I can do it anymore. And I

0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.720
<v Speaker 3>had a long talk with my child's mom at the time,

0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.840
<v Speaker 3>and I just had to figured out I was probably

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<v Speaker 3>just gonna go back with my degree and just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and go out and get a job, you know. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was sitting at home. It was late. You know,

0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.280
<v Speaker 3>when you when it's home at late, you put that

0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:47.000
<v Speaker 3>bottle of wine out. You just start watching movies and

0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.200
<v Speaker 3>you know your brain is going all over the place,

0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:51.200
<v Speaker 3>like you know, because you broke and you're just trying

0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:58.040
<v Speaker 3>to figure it out. And movie came on, Sure Shank Redemption,

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:03.320
<v Speaker 3>Classic Classic classical Life, and I was watching it and

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<v Speaker 3>the minute Morgan Freeman said it's either I'm gonna go

0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.160
<v Speaker 3>and do one or two things. I'm gonna get busy living,

0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get busy dying. And that right there sparked me.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh man, I'm going to get busy living.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got up that morning and I thought like

0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I was fifty percent of not giving up yet but

0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:31.840
<v Speaker 3>going in that morning, I got in my car because

0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:33.920
<v Speaker 3>in hallowed me at the movie Your Car, Ultimate Side

0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 3>of the Parking or Early in the morning, Jay Crew

0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:39.280
<v Speaker 3>love you, you know oh so well about that early

0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:47.320
<v Speaker 3>morning and now yeah he got money now. But but

0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:52.000
<v Speaker 3>then I got up and yo, guys, Fellas I turned

0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:54.920
<v Speaker 3>on the radio BLS, I was getting ready to move

0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:58.960
<v Speaker 3>my car and Michael Jackson and the Jackson five, I've

0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:02.320
<v Speaker 3>never heard this record for my life, had a record

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:07.680
<v Speaker 3>call We're almost there and when the horns start with

0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:09.879
<v Speaker 3>the music, and then when the music starts with it,

0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:13.240
<v Speaker 3>it just I didn't know what it was. It touched me,

0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 3>and Michael says the first lines of it says, it's like,

0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:23.879
<v Speaker 3>no matter how hard times may seem, don't give up

0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:28.560
<v Speaker 3>on your plan, don't give about your dream. Yo. Yo, Yo.

0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 3>He's talking to me yo, and then yo, it's like

0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:35.000
<v Speaker 3>and he's talking about yo. We're almost there. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, man, and I remember that I found parking,

0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 3>put my outfit on. I went to the store and

0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:44.760
<v Speaker 3>the guy said, you know what, I don't know anything

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:47.600
<v Speaker 3>about you right now, but I got my bag with me.

0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 3>He said, but the glow that you got, I'll buy

0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:54.440
<v Speaker 3>a case. I said, serious, because I usually hear nose

0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:56.399
<v Speaker 3>like I used to walk in. Excuse me, sir, you

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<v Speaker 3>have a chance. I want to show no, ma'am, I

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<v Speaker 3>just want to tell you something on ma'am, you look

0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:04.440
<v Speaker 3>good today, thank you. But ma'am, you want to know

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I've been hearing that so many times. I got a

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 3>black book that I always laugh about, but I always

0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:13.920
<v Speaker 3>show my friends. And I had forty one nose until

0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 3>I had I spelled like Jackie Robinson, right number forty two.

0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 3>But on the forty second one, I felt like that

0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 3>was the one that was the key, and that lady,

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean. The guy in the store was like, yeah,

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:28.520
<v Speaker 3>but listen, I'm gonna take this case. But if I

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 3>don't sell us over the weekend, you're gonna have to

0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:33.200
<v Speaker 3>come back in here on Monday and buy it back.

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, damn, all right, how much this

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 3>case is going for? Oh back? I think we were

0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 3>probably at like one twenty two five, Like we weren't

0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 3>that expensive because they're talking about like a seventeen eighteen

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Alabado Times about that. Yeah, about that, that's what we're

0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 3>selling at. So we went yeah. So I got the

0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:59.399
<v Speaker 3>case and he said, listen, you're gonna have to come

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:04.119
<v Speaker 3>back here on Thursday. No, he said Friday and do

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:07.360
<v Speaker 3>it tasting. So I was like, okay, you know when

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 3>you're happy because I sold the case. So I'm just happy.

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm just running out, like, yo, thank you a liquor

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 3>store tasting got you Friday back. I slammed the door

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 3>about going to the car, and I said, what the

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 3>hell is it tasting? The tasting that he kind of

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 3>wanted was different the ones that I was doing was

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.120
<v Speaker 3>just regular. He wanted something a little bit more uplifting.

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:32.639
<v Speaker 3>So I was like, man, you know what, I know

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 3>how to take this to the next level. So I

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 3>went and got my I was like, ya, I'm gonna

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 3>spend a couple of dollars. I had to buy a

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 3>beautiful table, beautiful cloth. I even bought some flowers from

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:43.440
<v Speaker 3>the guy at at at the count at the corner.

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 3>And so that Friday when I decorated my area, I

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:49.360
<v Speaker 3>made it feel so appealing, you know. And I even

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 3>had like mic and ikes. I remember bought like like

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 3>light blue mic and nikes, like the spread of them

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 3>like in a candy jar. This when the customer came

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 3>in the he just felt like a different vibe.

0:24:57.560 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 2>So what is tasting? It tastes like a hosting tasting

0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 2>is like, yeah, so you have a you.

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Have a table, you have a model, and you do

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 3>it for two hours inside the liquor stores. So someone

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 3>comes in and you're going to offer them a sample

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 3>of it, and you just pull them that one out

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 3>you said it.

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 4>I was thinking like when I go into SAMs, like

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 4>the people like they asked you for like, yo, you

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Speaker 4>want to sample?

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:17.920
<v Speaker 3>You want to sample? Yeah. The presentation wasn't like yours

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 3>obviously yeah, yeah, but nowadays they stepped it up. I

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 3>was just sitting, like Stuart Lennard said this, they were

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 3>sampling some meat and had like a whole barbecue going on.

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 3>I was like, what these tastes have changed? I take

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 3>that uh what's that bacon? I take it. I'm just kidding,

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 3>but no, but yeah, no, so that's what the tasting

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 3>really is. So I did that and uh so, But

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 3>the thing is, guys, this is this is this is

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 3>marketing one on one. How do you get a case

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 3>that is sold in the liquor store in Harlem? And

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 3>he says to me, if I don't move these six bottles,

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 3>I gotta buy it back out of there. What do

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 3>you do?

0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what you do?

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:01.880
<v Speaker 3>You call your cousins, go six, said So I called

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.159
<v Speaker 3>my cousin that was a kind of big time at

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 3>the time at one of the projects in Harlem, and

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 3>I told him, I asked him, Yeah, I said, I

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 3>need a favor. And I went to him on Thursday

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 3>and he could not wait to do this favor. He

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 3>thought that this was like a mission, impossible thing because

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 3>I told him what I wanted you to do is

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:25.440
<v Speaker 3>I need you to bring in six friends every half

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 3>hour to this store and buy this bottom And he

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 3>just thought like this. He's never had a job, so

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:32.639
<v Speaker 3>this was like a job for him. So he was

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 3>so happy. He's like, bet I got this. So king

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:39.120
<v Speaker 3>five o'clock that day at five point fifteen. One guy

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 3>walks in and Buza balla hypnotic walks out, only looked

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:51.399
<v Speaker 3>at me the thing and goes yeah. Twenty minutes late, no,

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 3>fifteen minutes later, two girls walk in, Hey, what's up? Oh,

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 3>we come here to get Aliza and the girl like

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 3>they doing the whole show. Whole show, all right, and

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 3>I know they're from the block. That's the funny part,

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 3>not Damn Brendan and tay Shall. Yeah, come on now,

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 3>but they're doing a whole skit. And all of a

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.400
<v Speaker 3>sudden it takes in and saying, oh this is good,

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:17.640
<v Speaker 3>what all girl? We gonna buy this. They buy two bottles.

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Now I got three more to sell. I'm like, oh please.

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 3>So now about a third bottle manager comes over to me.

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Yo owner said, you know, I'm actually a let me

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 3>buy another case. I said, hold on, I don't know.

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 3>He said no, no, no, no, For some reason, I

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 3>feel this. I was like, oh yeah, I feel it too,

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 3>So I get him another case. So the all of

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 3>the story was my cousin had operation shut down. He

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 3>not only sent six, but he sat like twelve people

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 3>were coming in that store buying a bottle, walking out

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 3>buy the bottle. But the crazy part about it was

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 3>it was a good summer, like it was a good

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Friday night. So they were going back to the block drinking,

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 3>having a good But now everybody was coming back. My

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 3>promotion was only two hours. I got a call. I

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 3>left him with three cases, which was eighteen bottles. He

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 3>went through eighteen that night around nine thirty, and now

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 3>he called me and said, I need five cases by

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 3>tomorrow morning. Again, I was like, I got three now,

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 3>but I'll be back in the morning. The crazy part

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 3>is not only did I sell out in that store,

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 3>he said, yo, I called my brother who has a

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 3>store on one hundred and forty fifth Street up on Broadway.

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 3>He wants five cases as well on Saturday. So now

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 3>I did go there. We had to drop off uptown

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 3>and then I had to call my other cousin. I'm

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 3>gonna blow him up in Saint Nick Projects because he's

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 3>closer to that niquor store and do the same operation

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 3>and blow up that store. And the crazy part is

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 3>like by the end of the weekend, we were fifteen

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 3>cases in and all of a sudden, the buzz started

0:28:56.680 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 3>like hitting around the Projects. And now was the like

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 3>that we just started. That was like the start of it,

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, it's just visually appeasing. Man,

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 3>when you first see that blue liquor, it was like

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 3>for us, when I first saw it, I was like,

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 3>damn they drinking kool aid? What did they really drink it?

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 4>Because like when we see it, it's like, yo, that

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 4>looks like the fruit punch plate or the raspberrying.

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 2>And it was like so but all right, so now

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 2>you okay, so but we're really skyrocketed. The whole thing

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 2>was a placement fab tablished, right, that's what really.

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 3>So after the fifteen are you calling Raphael like, yo,

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 3>we got this? After yeah, we got this. We got this.

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Then we started knowing that we noticed that the name

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 3>change was very key, and then we just started working

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 3>really hard, right and then now was the beginning of

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 3>the summer. And then I got my first big break

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 3>in November. Before we get to that one, which was

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 3>about to say, I want to bring you a little

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 3>bit closer, just one. This is a good story. I

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 3>got many stories. Get ready, we uh, I get a

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 3>By the end of the summer, I got a few accounts,

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 3>but not that many. We're about to go to Labor Day,

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 3>weekend and my partner John at the time for promotions.

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 3>He was like, Nick, I got some good news. I'm

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 3>doing Puff Daddy's Party, White Party, Hampton's. That was the

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 3>remember the Hamptons scene. Yeah, doing that Labor Day weekend.

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Good way to put your brand out there. I need

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 3>about you know, six cases eight k I'm like whatever

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 3>you need, John, I'm there. We went out to the Hamptons.

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 3>Party was hot, blew it up. John had made a

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 3>concoction he called it the Biggie Hypnotized, So he had

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 3>like the hypnotic, a Malibu and a pineapple and man,

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 3>that joint was off the chain and everybody was like

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 3>rocking to it and had a little menu placement. At

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 3>the end of the night, John said, yo, were gonna

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 3>gonna do We decided to take it in and we're

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 3>gonna do the release the following Tuesday of that week.

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 3>I was like, bet, I'm at Justin's finally perfect. Can't wait.

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Justice Restaurant. Yeah. Justice was Puffed Addy's Restaurant, twenty first

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Street between fifth and six. That's right, and it was

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 3>it was one of the It was it was the

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 3>who's who of who in New York was always at Justice,

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, so I was like, you know, I was happy.

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Everything was good. Let's let's rock. Monday comes and Monday

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 3>I can't wait. I'm doing everything I possibly can. I'm

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 3>getting like flyers done, I'm getting everything ready. So my

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 3>man works like all the way down by Wall Street

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 3>and he's you know, he's gonna make my menu cards

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 3>because I ain't even have no money. Like we didn't

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 3>even have money for Staples. Okay, there was no like, yo,

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 3>go to Kinko's. I had to go to a friend

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 3>with a copy of machine okay that we had that

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 3>type of money, So we had to go. I had

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 3>to go there. I had to. About eight o'clock in

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 3>the morning, Ed Lover was on the radio at Hot

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 3>ninety seven and I begged at Lover to, you know,

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 3>like to come to the party. He's like, nick, I

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 3>got you. So I got up at morning seven o'clock,

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 3>got downtown at eight o'clock Wall Street. Mind, you got

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 3>to Hot ninety seven around like eight thirty, walked out

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 3>of the building. Everybody's happy. It's a good day, sun

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 3>is out, beautiful day, gonna launch my brand. This is

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 3>like my turning point in my life. It's that following Tuesday,

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and one, eight forty six in the morning,

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Tower one is hit on my day, on my day,

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 3>this is this is this hit can happen any other day.

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Actually I didn't want to have it never Oh my god,

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 3>but damn on this like nine eleven, he's supposed to

0:32:56.160 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 3>launch hip now on nine to eleven, adjustice and whose party?

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Whose record release that we were going to listen to

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 3>Fabulous Boo fabulous drop at the same year, So we're

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 3>gonna listen to the albums, like hey, that was like

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 3>an important thing. Of course that never happened. And then

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 3>so then we had to really sit back and we

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 3>had to wait, and then we waited, and then I

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 3>had to figure out another launch day for New York

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 3>as New York was down, and I chose November one.

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 2>That year.

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 3>Michael Jordan was coming back to Madison Square Garden and

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 3>then he was playing with the Wizards and he was

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 3>coming back to New York and just as it was

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 3>like actually it was on a Tuesday, and we started

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 3>that night and we did a promotion at Justin's Lost

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 3>It that night. But the biggest thing was the biggest

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 3>club in New York on Tuesday night was Club Cheetah.

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 3>So Club Cheetah was the after party. That's it. We

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 3>did the after party Club Cheetah, and I remember going

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 3>in with the manager and the manager and I believe

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 3>in me, and he's like, I'll take six bottles, but

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 3>I doubt it's gonna sell and lo and behold, like

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.800
<v Speaker 3>we killed it that night, and here came a rapper

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 3>named Fabulous Brooklyn. He bought two bottles, but Treell Spreewell

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 3>bought two bottles. Yeah, Clarence Weatherspoon. On the next they

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 3>bought another bottle, like, yo, we sold out to the

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 3>manager was like, yo, I need another case, but I

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 3>didn't have another case at that time. I was like,

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 3>I gotta come back, you know tomorrow. He was like, man,

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't sold out. But it was a good feeling.

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 3>But then I ended up getting to meet fab which

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.879
<v Speaker 3>was even better, you know what I'm saying. So then

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 3>I then so that was like a really like good

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 3>start of the movement going into next year, because going

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 3>into next year, we started to like really like start

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 3>like a real grassroots marketing plan, hitting as many bars

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 3>and clubs and restaurants we could, was getting a name

0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.879
<v Speaker 3>for ourselves. We still was growing a little bit. Then

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 3>came spring of that year of O two, and I

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 3>was able to put a little bit of my budget

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 3>together two do a video with Fab. Trade it All,

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Trade it all, and trade it all. Guys, when I

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 3>tell you, when I tell you, Jagged Puff Daddy Jagget

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 3>as Barber SOPs soundtrack, Ice Cubes first movie, you know,

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:30.399
<v Speaker 3>like whoa to do that? And then to come back home?

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<v Speaker 3>And mind you, we didn't even have a distributor in

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 3>New York yet.

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 2>So how did you? All right, you put the you

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 2>put the product place, when you put the bottle in

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 2>the video, this legendary whole situation. How much did you

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 2>have to pay Fab for that?

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 3>I wish I could just pleate the fifth ones, But

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be honest with you. Guys. You you you

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 3>probably will be like you wouldn't believe it.

0:35:58.760 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, I don't know.

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean I could probably tell. I mean it was

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 3>years ago, I mean whatever, Like, all right, so we

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 3>paid under ten grand, how about that? Under ten under

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 3>ten right for a video of that magnitude under ten thousand?

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 3>All right, something for him, something for they manager. Hey,

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 3>we're good.

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:17.439
<v Speaker 2>The whole team.

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 3>Hey, let's just you know, give me one second. But

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 3>he gave me that one second. You know, they gave

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 3>me the whole, the whole thing.

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and to the point.

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 3>Where first commercial. Yeah, and to the point where we

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 3>got remember by telling you, like we started, we still

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 3>was rocking. We only had an import license and we

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 3>was working out of a place out of Long Island.

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 3>We didn't have no distributor. And when that video hit, Yeah,

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:49.280
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<v Speaker 3>In the guys art, which is probably like seventy years old,

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<v Speaker 3>is answering the phone and she's like, hello, okay, hold on,

0:39:53.680 --> 0:40:01.720
<v Speaker 3>we have Delaware on the phone, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello.

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<v Speaker 3>Not what that video did was not only for clubs

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 3>and restaurants. The distributors in cities were calling, so.

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>How quick everybody saw right? So they saw the blue

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 2>looker in the video. Nobody really knew what it was,

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 2>but it was just the whole vibe. And then how

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 2>quick did that turn into people just asking it?

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it was. It seemed like it was wildfire overnight.

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 3>It seemed like it was overnight because we signed on

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:37.320
<v Speaker 3>with a distributor who jumped on it like asap. We

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 3>signed on with them like within a week, and then

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 3>they had a sales force of like fifty to sixty.

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 3>So we were able to like start flooding the gates

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 3>in New York, not only in not only in clubs,

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 3>but the most important thing was the stores. Stores were

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 3>more than anything, and they were taking twenty kse drops.

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.279
<v Speaker 3>They were taking ten case drops because people were looking

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 3>at videos and going into the store and being like, Yo,

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 3>I need that bottle, that blue bottle what I don't

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 3>even know what it was, that blue bottle that was

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 3>in the video.

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 2>So you did the influence to marketing before influencer marketing was.

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Before there was product placement, especially in oh.

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well and influence marketing that's real big now social media,

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 2>but influences, but I mean, rap video has always been

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:20.919
<v Speaker 2>a product placement.

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 3>Has always been a product placement. But it was like

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 3>nobody was really like on top of it to be like, yo,

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 3>this is what I want because that's what like everybody

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 3>was like putting a brand in it, but they were

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 3>using it. Nobody was really getting paid. That was a

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 3>good thing too. They were just using I mean, they

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 3>was putting Crystal Is probably in all the videos probably

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 3>before that, you know, that was like the number one,

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 3>like hey Crystal, you know, until you know that was

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 3>a status symbol, right, you know, But I tell you

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 3>the video that put me on status symbol when we

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:50.439
<v Speaker 3>had to work a deal deal out was making sure

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 3>that it was like you know, when you really want

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 3>to work with the artists, but you really want to

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 3>put it up and make sure that it was like prominent.

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Was when I got I did a video with Billy

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Woodruff in Miami Short Club Who sixty Bottles on the Wall? Director? Yes?

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:11.879
<v Speaker 3>Who exactly? I men do the song I did. I'd

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 3>rather do the song and say the name. At this point,

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 3>like is everybody going to back? Why can't no bash me?

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:17.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't want he was hot. I don't give a

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:24.240
<v Speaker 3>damn R Kelly Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, ignition.

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:33.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm ya, sixty bottles, damn sixty bottles on the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>So so how how? How? All right?

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 3>So what was it?

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:38.800
<v Speaker 2>What was the numbers that y'all was selling before the

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 2>fab and what was the numbers like a year later?

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Like how did we I mean, we probably were selling

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 3>maybe be like five hundred cases. Maybe we maybe we

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 3>were close like six hundred k total total until the

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:52.719
<v Speaker 3>video comes out. Video came out, we was up to

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 3>five thousand, five thousand cases. I saw I read someone

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 3>that the price point changed to like you the bottles, yeah,

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 3>because at one point it was that sixteen ninety nine.

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:03.719
<v Speaker 3>And then when you get with a distributor, so I

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 3>keep hering distributed. Can you just elaborate on the role

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 3>of a distributor. They're they're the real salesforce when you

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 3>don't have a sales team. They're the salesforce. They're the

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 3>ones with the backing, you know, they have they have

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:20.839
<v Speaker 3>a they have what you call a real salesforce team.

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 3>And then they have what you call a pamphlet of

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 3>everything else that I'm going to sell with your product,

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:32.320
<v Speaker 3>a portfolio, right, so they have a portfolio of things.

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:37.720
<v Speaker 3>And at that time the distributor we went to probably

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 3>only had like two or three. I think we had.

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:43.399
<v Speaker 3>They had patrol, which was rising back then. Back the year,

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 3>they had patron, which is like a key, and then

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:50.759
<v Speaker 3>they had like I think they're like piers you had.

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 3>They had like a Champagne and then they had like

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 3>something else. I think they had like a I think

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.239
<v Speaker 3>they had a cognact, but nothing like really big. But

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 3>it was a small distributor. Actually, it's funny because it's

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 3>up here. It's up in Prochester. Yeah, they were called

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Eber Brothers.

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 2>So five thousand, that's for the year or five Yeah,

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:09.360
<v Speaker 2>for the year, So you were from five hundred to

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 2>five thousand, five thousand, it's like a thousand percent increase

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:12.360
<v Speaker 2>something like that.

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but the thing was down. But the thing, well,

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm just talking about New York. We got opened up

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 3>in five states. That's the real big key thing. Like

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 3>now we had to now we had to move a container,

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 3>which a container you know holes that's coming from France

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 3>all the way over here, you know, by water. So

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 3>we was figuring out like, yo, you gotta get that

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:35.839
<v Speaker 3>ship excuse my language over here quickly. But of course

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.920
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna still take time because it's by freight. But

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 3>we're looking at places that was taking in containers. So

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:43.880
<v Speaker 3>a state was calling in like y'all need a container.

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:45.799
<v Speaker 2>So you wasn't making a liqu in America. The liquor

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 2>wasn't made in America, was made in France.

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 3>What's that? What's that process like from getting it? Obviously

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 3>for me, it's a lot. It's a process that when

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 3>people always say, yo, you need to come up with

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 3>your own liquor. You needed you need to do your research,

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:00.919
<v Speaker 3>you need to really go back over and really see

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 3>exactly a lot of the there's a lot of there's

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 3>so much movement inside of getting a product done in

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:09.839
<v Speaker 3>France and bringing it over from France to the US.

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:12.839
<v Speaker 3>And there's so many like laws and there's there's things

0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 3>that you've got to tackle, and there's red tape, and

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 3>there's a.

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Lot it can't be made in America.

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, there's oh yeah, well now now of today,

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean you can see there's distilleries and there's things

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 3>that's popping up all all around the country now, which.

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Is like, you know, great, So I have to peak

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:31.839
<v Speaker 2>how how big was Hypnotic like at its peak?

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 3>What was the oh million cases easily a year. Yeah,

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 3>because we did in the stretch that I was in

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 3>there in three years, we did a million cases.

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 2>How much money? How much money is that?

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Like in the millions, in the double millions, Like, yeah,

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 3>in a double millions, you could. You could sometimes everybody

0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:58.799
<v Speaker 3>always says that you can. You can do the numbers right,

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 3>so you can times either times, but the case would be,

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever the case is. So let's just say

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 3>a case was a one thirty right times that by

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 3>a main cases do it that way. But that ain't

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 3>the like, that's not overall. There's so many other cuts

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:17.879
<v Speaker 3>that you have to do. But it's a lot of money.

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:21.399
<v Speaker 3>So it's Raphael and his brother, then it's you. Yeah,

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 3>it's Raphael. Solomon really wasn't a part of it. He

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 3>just was like helping out in the beginning. But it

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 3>really was just Raphael and me, and it was a

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 3>gentleman by the name of Jim Goldstein who had an

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:35.360
<v Speaker 3>importer's license that really helped us with the importance of

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:37.280
<v Speaker 3>everything outside of it in Long Island.

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 5>So you got up to at the peak, you said

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:43.879
<v Speaker 5>a million no, no, So up to the peak when

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 5>we we sold in two thousand and.

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Three, the company.

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 3>We sold the company. Yeah, okay, we sold the company

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 3>in two heaven hell out of Kentucky.

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:54.799
<v Speaker 2>That's a that's a liquor company.

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah so that Yeah, so they're they're they're like they're

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 3>like the fourth biggest family and bourbon in the country.

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:03.840
<v Speaker 3>There we Yeah, so they're the biggest one is like

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, Evan Williams, like they're like huge, how much

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 3>you for sixty million? I know, right, well it was

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 3>your cut. I had a lot, you know, I always

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 3>tell everybody's things that I got. I got broke off

0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 3>pretty nice. Wasn't as nice as everybody were like, oh

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 3>my god, you should have got no, because at that

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:31.360
<v Speaker 3>time I took I took a point. Not disappointed, but

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 3>I took a couple of points, but really wasn't adapted

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 3>to the knowledge of that I have today, Like you know,

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, yeah, like just learning, just learn, like you know,

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.879
<v Speaker 3>just like any like producer, like yeah, you know, I'll

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 3>give up half of my whatever on this track and

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:50.640
<v Speaker 3>the track becomes so great and you're like, oh, I

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 3>didn't know, but you know, you you live and you learn.

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 3>But it was, like I always say this, it was

0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:56.879
<v Speaker 3>it was good enough for me to at least say,

0:47:57.440 --> 0:47:59.719
<v Speaker 3>I bought my mom and dad the condo that they

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:02.880
<v Speaker 3>kind don't want it for a long time. And I

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.320
<v Speaker 3>wasn't a ballplayer, and I wasn't a rapper, and I

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 3>didn't sell drugs, okay, so hey, I accomplished a lot.

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 2>The fact where Fabulous sees you, now, does he ever

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 2>feel a way that he got paid less than ten

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars a company?

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 3>No, fab is like, oh, I mean, fab is like been.

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's been my friend for god knows how

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:27.360
<v Speaker 3>many years, Like he's been the biggest support of me,

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 3>not only from Hypnotic. But remember we went on to Sorak,

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 3>and we're gonna get that.

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:35.840
<v Speaker 4>That's what makes it legendary, is right, Like if you

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:37.840
<v Speaker 4>can do something once, great, if you do it twice,

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:39.440
<v Speaker 4>that legend it is, right.

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so you've done that twice twice.

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 2>With Rak, So can we talk about Sarak?

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:49.040
<v Speaker 3>So we finished with Hypnotics because that was I mean,

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:51.319
<v Speaker 3>and I didn't even get to tell my incredible Haalk story.

0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 4>But we're doing because a legendary drink because it has

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:59.400
<v Speaker 4>two classics in the black culture, Hennessy Hypnotic.

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, it changes the color of the drink. It

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:05.360
<v Speaker 3>changed the color and and and how I did it.

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Guys like it, Oh the homework. Can I check these notes? Yes,

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 3>But I'm gonna tell you the true story. I did

0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 3>the marketing of it. Well, I said I created it,

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 3>like when I when I was in double XL magazine

0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 3>when they wrote me up and talked about how I

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:28.759
<v Speaker 3>blew this drink up. It was really somebody, Anahonymus, that

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:33.360
<v Speaker 3>was in Brooklyn. Okay, no true story. Kid walked in.

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 3>He told my model sampling girl that said, nah, baby,

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 3>we know how to do this. So he grabbed a

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Hennessy bottle and then he grabbed a hypnotic bottle. He

0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:49.240
<v Speaker 3>brought it to the table and he poured the hypnotic first,

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 3>and he pulled the Hennessy after it. And I was

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:54.400
<v Speaker 3>sitting behind these boxes because I didn't want to, like,

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:56.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, because you know, I'm just doing some like

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:58.880
<v Speaker 3>store reports and like just seeing who's coming in, and

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm working with the girl, and I didn't notice that

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 3>both of them stood together. But he put his finger

0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 3>in the drink and made it turn around and made

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:16.840
<v Speaker 3>it turn green. But the crazy part about it is

0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:20.760
<v Speaker 3>that after he did it, he was like so amped

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 3>about it. He called it the money shot, and he's

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:26.480
<v Speaker 3>about to walk away. And he went back to the

0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 3>girl and he said, yo, Ma, can I get your number?

0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 3>And she's like, no, you know, I can't do that.

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, all right, no problem. You know it.

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it turns, you know, the Green sometimes makes me

0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 3>feel confident, just like make me feel like the Hulk.

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 2>And I was like.

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:48.879
<v Speaker 3>The Hulk. Green liked the Hawk. So I wrote it down.

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Green liked the Hawk. I sat with it for an hour.

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:55.719
<v Speaker 3>Called my friend Mark in La. I said, Mark, you

0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 3>always talk about Tupac because Alise is my that's my

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 3>arching assist. And I'm like, I can't beat Alixe and

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to And Mark, what's that song? He said, Yo, Nick,

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:12.239
<v Speaker 3>it's a thug passion record. He says, passed me at

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Alex and at Hennessy. I was like, you know what, Mark,

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do the Hulk. He said what I said,

0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:23.799
<v Speaker 3>he is, if you put Hennessy in hypnotics, it turns Green.

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:27.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do the Hulk. So he was like, oh okay.

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 3>So I went back told Raphael my plan. He thought

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:33.799
<v Speaker 3>it was ludicrous. He thought you were spending the money

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 3>on marketing money for so I'm stupid, right, what are

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:40.360
<v Speaker 3>you doing? I was like, Raphael, just trust me on this.

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I went to Aberkadava on twenty first Street. I ranted

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 3>the incredible home costume. I'm about to put somebody's name

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 3>on blast. I had to call my cousin, Raheem just

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 3>came home from doing college time, you know what I mean.

0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:02.000
<v Speaker 3>And Raheen came home big as a house. And Raheen

0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:05.239
<v Speaker 3>was looking for a job. And I said, Raheen, meet

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:09.880
<v Speaker 3>me here at a place called Baba Loo's and I

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:12.120
<v Speaker 3>need you to meet me here. He couldn't wait. He

0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:15.320
<v Speaker 3>dressed all in black, he got his outfit ready and

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:17.759
<v Speaker 3>he met me there and he was like, what do

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:20.360
<v Speaker 3>I gotta do? And I was like, what you gotta

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:22.920
<v Speaker 3>do is wear this costule. He was like, yoah, I'm

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:25.480
<v Speaker 3>not wearing this castle. I was like, nigga, you gonna

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:27.799
<v Speaker 3>wear his castle. He was like, I was like, listen,

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:29.640
<v Speaker 3>you want this two hundred bucks. That's what we're paying

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:31.360
<v Speaker 3>for the promotions. You want this two hundred He's like,

0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:34.040
<v Speaker 3>I you know, I'll wear it, but that's it. The

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:36.400
<v Speaker 3>funny part of the story is that I had him

0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:38.920
<v Speaker 3>dressing in an incredible Holt costume and walk around with

0:52:39.080 --> 0:52:42.239
<v Speaker 3>a Hennessy bottle and Hipnolic bottle for all night. The

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:44.560
<v Speaker 3>manager told me that I was only going to sell

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 3>at least ten drinks, was not going to come close

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:50.399
<v Speaker 3>to the thug passion. I ended up selling forty five

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 3>drinks that night. The manager told me, if I could

0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:55.759
<v Speaker 3>bring this incredible Hult guy in here for the next

0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 3>four fridays, he'll take in ten cases a week. And

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:02.759
<v Speaker 3>that's what we did. I blitzed out New York from

0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Justin's Baba Loo's all the way to Jimmy's Brons Cafe

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 3>on an incredible Hul costume for three and a half

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:14.319
<v Speaker 3>months until I embedded it inside of New York. That's

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:16.040
<v Speaker 3>how an incredible Hulk was really made.

0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 4>If you've ever been to a party in New York

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 4>City in the two thousands, and that drink was in

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:25.600
<v Speaker 4>the environment, that changed the entire envire, changed the entire.

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:29.160
<v Speaker 2>All right, So we're gonna talk about the rack situation.

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:31.359
<v Speaker 2>So I remember the first time I saw Sarak did

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:33.960
<v Speaker 2>he had like a New Year's Eve commercial and He's like,

0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:37.000
<v Speaker 2>what ad tuxedo want's drinking. So I'm like, what the rock?

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:39.919
<v Speaker 2>I never heard of Sack before? And then fly.

0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:42.399
<v Speaker 3>Let's Fly.

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:46.759
<v Speaker 2>Six months later he's on a jets with man. It

0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:47.600
<v Speaker 2>has like a tightal way.

0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:51.560
<v Speaker 3>So all right, up until that point, we were drinking

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:52.080
<v Speaker 3>Greg Goose.

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Greg Goose was the champion of the champion, Champion, and

0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 2>that Goose was a champion, and Rack changed the whole dynamic.

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:03.600
<v Speaker 3>So sitting with the reason, yes, yes, yes, so all right, yes,

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:04.520
<v Speaker 3>what is what is?

0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:08.799
<v Speaker 2>Yes? What's the deal with? Well?

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean it actually is crazy because it started at

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 3>It started when I went to a party at a

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:21.960
<v Speaker 3>mansion on like sixty second Street and it was actually

0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:25.800
<v Speaker 3>a release for Unforgivable the Colone. Yeah, I forget what

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 3>it was the release and I went there and I'm

0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:33.360
<v Speaker 3>walking down and as I'm walking down the block, I

0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:38.800
<v Speaker 3>hear this two women screaming like not Nick next Storm.

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Look over and I know one of the ladies because

0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 3>I knew her from another company, and she'll tell a

0:54:48.560 --> 0:54:50.800
<v Speaker 3>story better than me and Erica Pittman, who's like a

0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:54.160
<v Speaker 3>powerhouse in the business. She'll tell her like I was

0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 3>running down in to Lettos and I jumped over the

0:54:56.600 --> 0:54:59.239
<v Speaker 3>car just to get some but yeah. So she jumped

0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:02.600
<v Speaker 3>over and the XT there was an Erica and d Sims,

0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:09.120
<v Speaker 3>both powerhouse women up today, that's right, and she they

0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:11.160
<v Speaker 3>both said, hey, Nick, we need you to come and

0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:14.880
<v Speaker 3>meet with meet with Sean. And I was like, okay,

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:16.719
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know anything what was going on. He was like,

0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 3>we're going to give you a call this week. We

0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:20.919
<v Speaker 3>need we've been we've been looking for you, were trying

0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:23.520
<v Speaker 3>to find you. We got to find you today. But yeah,

0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 3>we need to come and sit with him. I was like,

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 3>all right, just let me know. And uh. The next

0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:31.000
<v Speaker 3>day I got a call from a woman by the

0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 3>name of Jackie Lee who was at Diagio at the time,

0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:38.120
<v Speaker 3>very powerful black woman, African American woman. Sorry, and uh

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 3>she was, uh, you know, she was like, Nick, there's

0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:45.680
<v Speaker 3>some things happening up at Diagio, but you're going to

0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:47.640
<v Speaker 3>get a call, so just be prepared for it. And

0:55:47.760 --> 0:55:52.319
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, cool. So, anyway, is a company

0:55:52.360 --> 0:55:57.920
<v Speaker 3>that owns the Rock right exactly. Yeah, And they own LVMH,

0:55:58.080 --> 0:56:01.600
<v Speaker 3>which is Hennessy m Mowatt and and everything from Johnny

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Walker on down from Crown Ray, you know, all the

0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:10.080
<v Speaker 3>way across the board. So there. So I ended up

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:13.200
<v Speaker 3>getting a call and to come meet with mister Koombs.

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:16.520
<v Speaker 3>So my first day I'm like, oh, okay, I don't mind,

0:56:16.680 --> 0:56:19.360
<v Speaker 3>but I have no idea what it really is entailed.

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:23.240
<v Speaker 3>But when I get there, I get to the office

0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:26.560
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, yo, what's up. I was like, Hey,

0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:29.759
<v Speaker 3>what's going on? I sit on the couch now mind you.

0:56:29.800 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 3>At this time, this is like Puff Daddy.

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Did you know him before that?

0:56:33.840 --> 0:56:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Seven? Yeah, well, not knew him like chilling, but I

0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:40.319
<v Speaker 3>knew him like I would do like I was doing

0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of events, and a guy by the

0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 3>name of Jeff Sanchez at the time worked for Puff

0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:49.200
<v Speaker 3>and he was plugging me wherever Puff was at. But

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 3>because Puff was like a hypnotic, so wherever Puff was at,

0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:54.440
<v Speaker 3>I was like, all right, I got your cases over here.

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I got your cases over here, Like what do you need?

0:56:57.440 --> 0:57:01.200
<v Speaker 3>So Puff is funniest thing is like, and he was like, yo,

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:03.680
<v Speaker 3>I just want to know one thing before this whole meeting.

0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 3>I was like yo. He was like, how'd you do it?

0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:13.759
<v Speaker 3>A million dollar question? So I was like how how

0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:17.000
<v Speaker 3>I did what? He was like, No, how'd you do it?

0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:25.000
<v Speaker 3>How'd you how'd you get hypnotic everywhere? I was like, oh, well,

0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:29.320
<v Speaker 3>and then you you you go into a trance because

0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:32.040
<v Speaker 3>he's looking at you with those you know, like how

0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 3>he looks at you on the floor when he goes

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:37.080
<v Speaker 3>like this we've heard some story, right, like, and you

0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:39.280
<v Speaker 3>just get so and then mind you, he's got the

0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Biggie poster behind him Grammy's I mean his office. You've

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:45.240
<v Speaker 3>ever been a puff's office. His office is a maculate

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:48.600
<v Speaker 3>like it's like every picture from Quincy Jones on down

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:52.480
<v Speaker 3>to the President's And so you already and like you

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:54.960
<v Speaker 3>better like figure it out, right, But then you got

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 3>like your dad and like, you know, like nothing, you know,

0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.480
<v Speaker 3>the good cop, angel, you know, the devil, like you

0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:04.160
<v Speaker 3>don't know what to do. And then I said, you

0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:06.360
<v Speaker 3>know what, I did a little bit of this, and

0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:08.400
<v Speaker 3>I did a little bit of that, and I was

0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:10.360
<v Speaker 3>like and he was like, oh, good answer. I was like,

0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:14.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, I did some videos. I did some you know,

0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 3>street marketing. I try to keep it really. He was like, Okay,

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:18.720
<v Speaker 3>I'll see what you're saying. And he's like, listen, you

0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:20.880
<v Speaker 3>ever heard us a rock? I was like, oh, yeah,

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:22.600
<v Speaker 3>I've heard it. We were about to do this. He

0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:24.480
<v Speaker 3>told me a little bit a he broke everything down.

0:58:24.560 --> 0:58:26.960
<v Speaker 3>He was very animated. He was like getting up. I

0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:28.960
<v Speaker 3>was like, ooh, I feel the energy. I feel a vibe.

0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:30.880
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, Yo, you just got Yo. I'm telling

0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:32.520
<v Speaker 3>you you got to get on this train. Like, Yo,

0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:34.680
<v Speaker 3>you got some good ideas. Yo, you got to bring

0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:37.160
<v Speaker 3>him over here. Let's let's rock and roll. Talk to deer.

0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:40.640
<v Speaker 3>I was like, all right, cool. So like the next

0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 3>week I spoke the deer and then was like, Yo,

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:47.520
<v Speaker 3>bring you on. I was like, you know what, perfect timing.

0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:51.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm ready to go. And I went on board. And

0:58:53.000 --> 0:58:56.280
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and eight was like the real official, like

0:58:56.320 --> 0:59:00.280
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna make this thing happen, and uh yeah, and

0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:04.120
<v Speaker 3>I got on and I put some programs together. These

0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:09.120
<v Speaker 3>are very key programs in anything that we've done. The

0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:12.800
<v Speaker 3>number one key program was the Ambassador program. And the

0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 3>key about Ambassador is what I did with Hypnotic and

0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:20.080
<v Speaker 3>I never wanted one company for us to give the

0:59:20.160 --> 0:59:22.920
<v Speaker 3>marketing budget to one company and have them run the promotions.

0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:25.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's companies out there now like Team and

0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:27.960
<v Speaker 3>these other companies that like they just do the promotions

0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:31.920
<v Speaker 3>for the company. But there's nobody that's living and breathing

0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 3>the brand. And when we were at Hypnotic, they were

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:37.400
<v Speaker 3>going to give our money to like one promotional company

0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:39.240
<v Speaker 3>and then I would fly in and be with them.

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:42.160
<v Speaker 3>But I was like, I want somebody that lives and

0:59:42.200 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 3>breathes the brand every day. I want someone who knows

0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:48.960
<v Speaker 3>that Fab is doing a party of tonight, Meek Mills birthdays, tomorrow,

0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:52.600
<v Speaker 3>the Nike releases at the Nike store. Like, I need

0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:56.800
<v Speaker 3>that person that's in the market every day, breathing, living

0:59:56.840 --> 0:59:59.040
<v Speaker 3>the brand. And that right there is what a real

0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:02.080
<v Speaker 3>ambassador is about. Now. I did that with Hypnotic, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, well, I'm gonna do it with We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna take that same blueprint and we're gonna bring it

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<v Speaker 3>over here. We're gonna do it over here. And that

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<v Speaker 3>was very key to the brand success. Not only that.

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<v Speaker 3>One second part was doing a DJ program DJ program.

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<v Speaker 3>I had Hypnotic, but I only had three DJs. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I had like S and S Clue of Big Tigger, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he was saying, yeah, I had Big Tiger, I had

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<v Speaker 3>Clue Tigger and Clue Tay. I was the first person

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<v Speaker 3>we went to Hawaii together because we was doing like

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<v Speaker 3>Hypnotic at the Naval base, baby, you know. But and

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<v Speaker 3>then I had Camello and Puerto Rico when he first

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<v Speaker 3>was coming up. But when we got over to Siraq,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Sean Press shout out to Sean Press. He

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<v Speaker 3>was able to really because he had like a lot

1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:49.720
<v Speaker 3>of DJs for the musical side of so he was

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<v Speaker 3>able to put the program together to able to do

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<v Speaker 3>it on the Sirox side. And that's when we had

1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:58.840
<v Speaker 3>kind of like actually created the Sarraq Boys and the

1:00:59.000 --> 1:01:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Iraq Boy's name. I will always still tell you it

1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:05.000
<v Speaker 3>was a puff Daddy thing. But I think that I

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<v Speaker 3>have to give just a little bit of credit to

1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Terrence J for some odd reason, because yeah, man, because

1:01:12.640 --> 1:01:14.080
<v Speaker 3>it was one he was on one on six and

1:01:14.160 --> 1:01:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Park he was the young boy. He was rocking. And

1:01:16.000 --> 1:01:18.360
<v Speaker 3>we was actually at the forty forty getting ready to

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<v Speaker 3>do the Rock Boys video, and I was putting product

1:01:21.120 --> 1:01:24.400
<v Speaker 3>placement in there and Puff Nas Jay and everybody was

1:01:24.440 --> 1:01:26.720
<v Speaker 3>getting ready up in their rooms and this and that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was getting something for the guys, and I

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<v Speaker 3>remember Terrence J walking in and he was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>we're here, and you know, he slapped with father puff

1:01:34.800 --> 1:01:36.440
<v Speaker 3>and this and that. He's like, yo, you know, you

1:01:36.520 --> 1:01:38.640
<v Speaker 3>know we here man, you know rock boys is here, Yo,

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<v Speaker 3>Nick we Sirocki.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh come on.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember I was giving him the bottle just to

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<v Speaker 3>joke around and her It's like, you know it was

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<v Speaker 3>a rock boys. Oh good, Yeah, that nigga. Puff was like, nah, Nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>we all sir, rock boys and Puffa was like, na,

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<v Speaker 3>we rock boys and we just was rocking with it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the next week, I mean that next week

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<v Speaker 3>we had to come up with a name for the DJ,

1:02:00.840 --> 1:02:05.520
<v Speaker 3>and beholds like yo, rock boys and there it was.

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<v Speaker 2>So why did you choose the DJ? That's interesting? Why'd

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<v Speaker 2>you choose the DJs? Because DJ's kind of get left

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<v Speaker 2>looked over a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because the DJ is very important.

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<v Speaker 2>Very important.

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<v Speaker 3>They went from breaking records and now listen. So I

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<v Speaker 3>always say this, I utilized my bartenders as DJs when

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<v Speaker 3>I was really was trying to break a brand at

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<v Speaker 3>the bar. The bartender is going to tell you what

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<v Speaker 3>to drink. Sometimes he will change you, sometimes he will

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<v Speaker 3>influence you. Bartender is very important inside of the business

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<v Speaker 3>of the bar. The DJ to me was very important

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<v Speaker 3>at that time for the people to know what we

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<v Speaker 3>were drinking tonight, what were listening to, what we dancing to,

1:02:49.760 --> 1:02:52.400
<v Speaker 3>what we're rocking tonight. If you ain't got that rock

1:02:52.480 --> 1:02:54.440
<v Speaker 3>in your part, if you ain't got that with that's

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<v Speaker 3>the rock bart with rock boys. And it just kept

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<v Speaker 3>going on. I mean, when you got people like Flex

1:03:01.280 --> 1:03:08.440
<v Speaker 3>and Clue and Enough and Camillo Pro Style self just

1:03:08.520 --> 1:03:11.800
<v Speaker 3>in New York Cologne, you're looking at almost five six

1:03:11.960 --> 1:03:15.480
<v Speaker 3>nights of none stop in your ear in your face promotions.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you go across the country up in Chicago and

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<v Speaker 3>you got Ferris Ll. I mean, I l a fairly

1:03:21.160 --> 1:03:25.400
<v Speaker 3>fell Atlanta drama like like we like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>DC Quicksilver. We had them all the way across the board.

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<v Speaker 3>And when whether whatever city you was at, it was

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<v Speaker 3>like a stamp. We had a stamp on the Serac

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<v Speaker 3>boys across the country. And then and then, and that's why,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why when you said me earlier, was everybody in

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<v Speaker 3>a rock boy. I mean, if a guy was in

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<v Speaker 3>the club and he probably five six bars of hey, he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Then people started calling themselves rock boys.

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<v Speaker 3>They were.

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<v Speaker 5>It's no promotion, they just yeah. Some of them became

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<v Speaker 5>bad because we had to call from local market.

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<v Speaker 3>Like one of us, a rock boy showed up and

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<v Speaker 3>took two bottles and said he was a sack boy.

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<v Speaker 3>There was nowhere and bridge for Connecticut. That wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 3>We got DJ.

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<v Speaker 2>So you said something that was interesting with the hypnotic

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<v Speaker 2>that I just realized because I see, like even with

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<v Speaker 2>fifty cent with his thing, that he's going to like

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<v Speaker 2>different states. So when you roll out a liquor, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's not it doesn't just go nationally like it

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<v Speaker 2>has to go like different markets, like one market at

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<v Speaker 2>a time.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it can go nationally once you go with a

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<v Speaker 3>national distributor, it'll go nationally once you go to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like so Diago of course has distributors all across the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Once you know, when you were with Diago, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>flooded across all fifty states, you know, like that's how

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<v Speaker 3>it is. You know, whether you were Southern Wind of

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<v Speaker 3>Spirits or whether you were Empire or what you know

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<v Speaker 3>with Young's market in l A like each each n

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<v Speaker 3>DC down in DC, like each state has its own distributor.

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<v Speaker 3>So once if I was to bring a brand tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's called evolution and Diadre got this new brand

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<v Speaker 3>called Evolution. We're not going to do one state at

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<v Speaker 3>the time. It's going to be actually be flooded out

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<v Speaker 3>all all the way across the board. That's why you

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<v Speaker 3>got to come up with a national plan, and you

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<v Speaker 3>got to come up with a national marketing plan to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that you'll be able to, you know, move

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<v Speaker 3>the product inside the states. So the first part right

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<v Speaker 3>in eight when the rock takes off, that the plan

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<v Speaker 3>was like we have the guy, right puff is the guy? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>In my mind I'm thinking, like this guy is James Bond.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that the vision? Like I seen him he was

1:05:37.000 --> 1:05:41.400
<v Speaker 3>on jet skis, He's jumping out a helicopter. Yeah he was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he he knew how to It's one thing about him

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<v Speaker 3>is in being around him and working when I'm like

1:05:48.360 --> 1:05:53.040
<v Speaker 3>you're you're very you're very on your toes. But he

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<v Speaker 3>he always has a vision that you'll be like wow,

1:05:55.480 --> 1:05:58.680
<v Speaker 3>like I can see what you're saying, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's just it's it was really a really incredible

1:06:02.160 --> 1:06:04.120
<v Speaker 3>time to be around a man like that. To be

1:06:04.200 --> 1:06:06.880
<v Speaker 3>honest with you, like he motivated, He motivates you from

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<v Speaker 3>every aspect.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>But the plan was we wanted just to celebrate life

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<v Speaker 3>and we wanted to have a celebration moment about it,

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<v Speaker 3>and we wanted to be about life, about the celebratory

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<v Speaker 3>side of it, Like no matter whether you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>you if you lost your job, we're gonna celebrate because

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<v Speaker 3>you don't get a new one. When you got a job,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna celebrate because you got a job. Like it

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<v Speaker 3>was just we're just trying to find bright moments within everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>And even when it was just like a circle like

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<v Speaker 3>we had did a campaign like circle, Like a step

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<v Speaker 3>into the circle was like a step into the circle

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<v Speaker 3>of friends and friendship and love and love your friends

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<v Speaker 3>and hang out with your family more and and just

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<v Speaker 3>you just try to figure out a lot of things

1:06:44.200 --> 1:06:46.479
<v Speaker 3>that we wanted to come up with. But the most

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<v Speaker 3>part about of it was mostly thing about it was

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<v Speaker 3>about being celebrated and to celebrate life. And that that's

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<v Speaker 3>what the main thing about the whole branding about Sarraq was.

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<v Speaker 3>So how quick did the rock from WHOA I can

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<v Speaker 3>tell you those numbers, they went quick. They went from

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<v Speaker 3>like I mean, this was a brand that was out

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<v Speaker 3>for five years between two thousand and two and two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and seven until you know, mister Combs basically took

1:07:13.040 --> 1:07:17.680
<v Speaker 3>it over. Sixty thousand, sixty thousand case brand up for

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<v Speaker 3>five years. Two when we got it, I think we

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we doubled the numbers in one year. So

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<v Speaker 3>we did like we did from sixty to like one

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<v Speaker 3>seventy in one year, and then yeah, one year, and

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<v Speaker 3>then in two thousand and nine we really killed it

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<v Speaker 3>because we came out with the flavors and the first

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<v Speaker 3>flavors we came out was with Coconut and Red Verry.

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<v Speaker 3>So two thousand and nine we really took the movement

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<v Speaker 3>crazy because one, it was a good time because we

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<v Speaker 3>was coming out with a Last Train of Paris, which

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<v Speaker 3>was an album, and he was coming out with album.

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<v Speaker 3>Good album, like very underrated. Yeah wow, yeah, good album.

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<v Speaker 3>But we was like we was coming out with the

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<v Speaker 3>album and we was doing album release in certain markets,

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<v Speaker 3>and we were releasing the brand at the time, so

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<v Speaker 3>it was very key. Timing is is very key in

1:08:03.840 --> 1:08:05.720
<v Speaker 3>a lot of things. So we were coming out with

1:08:05.800 --> 1:08:08.920
<v Speaker 3>the album and branding the brand and coming out with

1:08:09.000 --> 1:08:12.520
<v Speaker 3>the Coconuts, the rock and the red Berry in certain states,

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<v Speaker 3>it just everything was moving.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So the first three years, I think I read

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<v Speaker 4>a million cases. Yeah, first three you with a million.

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<v Speaker 3>Again? Did it again, so being a part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But so you do that and then so what's your

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<v Speaker 2>vision now as far as like I know, you said,

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<v Speaker 2>now you do your consultant. So yeah, you did it once,

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<v Speaker 2>you did it twice. Like where do you see yourself

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the in the spirits industry moving forward?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I could do it again. I could do

1:08:49.160 --> 1:08:52.720
<v Speaker 3>it again. But I think now is I'm at a

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<v Speaker 3>point in my life where I can look back and

1:08:55.160 --> 1:08:57.680
<v Speaker 3>reflect and and and be happy. And one of the

1:08:57.760 --> 1:09:02.960
<v Speaker 3>things I can I can really be happy about is

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<v Speaker 3>I had got a phone call the other day from

1:09:05.720 --> 1:09:10.000
<v Speaker 3>a young lady that really gave, like really told me

1:09:10.120 --> 1:09:14.799
<v Speaker 3>about working up under me. You know what she learned

1:09:15.360 --> 1:09:18.000
<v Speaker 3>where she's at today would have never been there because

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<v Speaker 3>of me. And then I look back at about eleven

1:09:21.600 --> 1:09:24.599
<v Speaker 3>or twelve people right now withinside the business and inside

1:09:24.640 --> 1:09:28.800
<v Speaker 3>the liquor industry right now with jobs that look back

1:09:28.840 --> 1:09:31.720
<v Speaker 3>and say, I came up undernixt door. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>can't point someone in a direction, and I always feel

1:09:35.479 --> 1:09:38.679
<v Speaker 3>like you really look good when you can really point

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<v Speaker 3>somebody to make money, Like I always feel like that, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I feel good to know that I put certain

1:09:44.479 --> 1:09:47.160
<v Speaker 3>people in good positions to really make some money and

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<v Speaker 3>feed their families. You know. In my job now, I

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<v Speaker 3>think is really educating the youth and understanding about hard work, dedication,

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<v Speaker 3>and most importantly, it's like getting a lot of more youth,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean more of us. I'm sorry with being Latin

1:10:02.320 --> 1:10:06.960
<v Speaker 3>American and African American, as I said, my mother's Puerto Rican,

1:10:07.000 --> 1:10:09.680
<v Speaker 3>in my father's book African American. So I'm both, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>best of both for us, how I say, yeah, But

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<v Speaker 3>I would say as educating them on the business of

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<v Speaker 3>the wine and spirits business. You know, I had stayed

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<v Speaker 3>it before. I've been in the game twenty years, making

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<v Speaker 3>six figures for twenty years. There's so many good jobs

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<v Speaker 3>withinside the wine and spirits business that people don't know about,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's marketing, whether it's advertising, whether it's public relations,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's salespeople, you know, Like you know, a girl

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<v Speaker 3>told me the other day, and this is a good

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<v Speaker 3>one too. She was a bartender at a strip club

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm sorry, a gentleman's a gentleman's club. And she

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<v Speaker 3>was really good at sales and she would say to me,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I wish I could blow this night life.

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<v Speaker 3>One day and I said, you know what you are,

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<v Speaker 3>and when you're really serious, you let me know. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think a week later she was very serious. She

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<v Speaker 3>asked me for advice. She put a blue suit on

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<v Speaker 3>with her shirt. I told her what to wear. I

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<v Speaker 3>told her what to say. She went for a job

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<v Speaker 3>at a distributor, at a sales position. She got it.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason why I'm telling the story is last two

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<v Speaker 3>weeks ago she said, I wanted your address because I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to send you a gift. Because for a year

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<v Speaker 3>and a half she's been doing really well. But this year,

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty nineteen, she made Sales Girl of the Year.

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<v Speaker 3>She changed her life from the night life of what

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<v Speaker 3>she really didn't want to do and really became a saleswoman.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so happy and proud. But that made me

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<v Speaker 3>feel proud because she was able to change your whole

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<v Speaker 3>lifestyle and really, like you know, and she had a

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<v Speaker 3>daughter and she's doing really well, and that's like a

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<v Speaker 3>like that right there, you could change one person's life.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes when I speak in front of kids, and if

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<v Speaker 3>two kids come up to me, after it kick king

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<v Speaker 3>to the other day and said, you really get paid

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<v Speaker 3>the party, like yeah, but not but but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and but I always feel like, you know that that's

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<v Speaker 3>my mission now because I'm no good without giving the

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge that that what I was doing. One there it

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<v Speaker 3>is and that's so that's where I'm in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to consult with from brands on down to

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<v Speaker 3>the younger generation and and I want to and I

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<v Speaker 3>want to speak. I want to do public speaking with

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<v Speaker 3>inside of schools and and trying to educate them on

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<v Speaker 3>jobs withinside the business. So how would they find those jobs?

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<v Speaker 4>Right to the young lady, that's incredible that she did that,

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<v Speaker 4>but she knew, yeah, she knew me. So how would

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<v Speaker 4>the average person say, you know what I want to

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<v Speaker 4>get in the spirits industry?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm looking lately and then a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people have been hitting me up. But it's it's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people, like a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>jobs like online now, like you know, you can go

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<v Speaker 3>on d Augio's website, you can go on put over

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<v Speaker 3>Cards website, which is another big look a brand. But

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<v Speaker 3>you can on these websites and honestly, do you do

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<v Speaker 3>your knowledge like a friend of mine went at liquor store,

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<v Speaker 3>went in the back of a bottle, found where the

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<v Speaker 3>bottle was being imported from, and wrote the company up

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<v Speaker 3>in Connecticut and found the website to it and then

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<v Speaker 3>found the hr person to it. Like people are really

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<v Speaker 3>like knowing how to do that. They're hungry enough to

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<v Speaker 3>do the work now, which is good and it's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really only telling the story because he got the

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<v Speaker 3>job's crazy, but yeah he got and there he's working

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<v Speaker 3>in Connecticut right now. But but yeah, so that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's where I'm at now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's dope.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for joining us, man, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>How can it? How can the people contact you? Can

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<v Speaker 2>they contact you?

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<v Speaker 4>Or yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, contact social Yeah, you can DM me. Listen, I

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<v Speaker 3>answered everybody. My email is nixt Storm twenty nine at gmail.

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<v Speaker 3>Can email me. But my I G is I am

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<v Speaker 3>next Storm meaning content me or my manager. His name

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<v Speaker 3>is ja Cool. His instagram I don't know. His instagram

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<v Speaker 3>is Jake Cool Love. Yeah, d M him. He'll get me,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, at any speaking engagements, you know whatever. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>my manager's right there side to the town of Greenberg. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>lovelands on for a little bit. We call him Stephen

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<v Speaker 3>a j.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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