WEBVTT - #483 - Icewear Vezzo 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.360 What it does the drink god Icewear vessel. Check me 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:06.320 out on the Bootleg cav podcast right. 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:13.040 Now Yo, Bootleg cat Podcast Special guests in here man 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:16.200 my dog, Icewear Vezzo in the building. 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:17.480 Or to do. What's up? Bro? What's good? 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:17.640 Bro? 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:18.520 How you feeling? Man? 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:20.959 I'm good? Man cool? Is this a new chain? 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:24.439 You probably ain't think this joint. It's my little six 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:25.560 months you know what I'm saying. 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:27.360 A lot of things about that chain. Litterally is not 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:29.720 how I would describe it. I got the albums on 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:31.960 the back of that bitch oh ship. I got it 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:36.560 from piece. That shit's crazy that the jeweler who who 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:39.080 passed away in Detroit is who did it? Yeah? Did 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:40.120 they ever find who did that? 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:40.839 I don't know. 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:43.800 That's super sad because I follow I follow a lot 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.239 of the Detroit uh like I g pages and I 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:47.160 saw that shit happened. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.200 Man, I know he was a good nigga. 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:52.800 Man. Yeah, fucked up? How you been there? Man? 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.120 Been cool and Bro just grinded. Yeah, and you know 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.840 we just opened up the juice bar Troy, Michigan. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:00:59.920 She got a juice bar. 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.640 Yeah, so last time I got it for my wife. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.960 It's something. She really does. She take this shit seriously. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.200 She's like real passionate. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.880 Hers right, so wife, wife, he runs the juice bar. Yeah, 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.280 it's hers, I got it fun right, No family business man, 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.560 That's what I'm saying. It's family owned. You know what 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:17.880 I'm saying. Does she allow? I wonder does she allow 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:19.880 your potato chips to get sold in the juice bars? 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.399 This is kind of the opposite end of the. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:22.640 Health spectrum for it. 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.240 You can't get the vesel hot shipping in the juice bar. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.200 Everything in that motherfucker organic everything. 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.120 Do you are you like pretty like healthy when it 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:33.840 comes to just like what you're putting in your body. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:35.640 And ship because of her? Yeah. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.759 So it's like I say e or is it like yeah, yeah. 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:39.600 I say bowls. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:44.840 We got fucking like ginger shots and like see like 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.080 wheat grass and just all kind of ship. 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.200 Like it's crazy too, man, because I always tell people like, 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:51.960 I was out there about two years ago. That's when 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.160 I linked with you when you're shooting your movie, and 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.000 that was my first time in Detroit. I was out 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.600 there for about a week and uh, you know, I 0:01:58.600 --> 0:01:59.440 didn't know what you. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:00.480 Came to the movie shot. 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.520 Yeah, I didn't know what to expect out there, and 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.640 I always tell everybody, man, I was just I loved 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:07.800 it out there, bro with it. It was great. I 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:09.639 felt like the energy was great. We were all over 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.480 the place on the east side, on the west side. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.840 It was definitely moving through that bitch like a gangster. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.960 But it was so cool, man, Like the food was fire, 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.920 you know what I mean. We we definitely I think. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:21.200 Did you go to a Coney Island? 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:23.440 Yeah, we went to a few. One of them was 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.160 really good. The one that we went to that was 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.600 trash was the one. Was it on eight miles? It 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:31.799 called Mickey D's or Nikki D's. By truth, I think 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.200 it was right by truth. It wasn't great. 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.839 Yeah, right across on my on the eight mile. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:40.480 I think it was just by the strip club right 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.680 across the street from it's a couple of the motherfuckers. 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:47.239 Though the one I went to that was pretty good, 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:48.040 I might have went. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.399 I don't know, uh remember that. 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.720 I'm trying to think where did we go. Sada took 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.560 us to a place in his area. It was really good, 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.400 but it was like we had like I think we 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.240 had cheesecake and like I had like some sort of Sandwich. 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.040 It was, uh, it was on Kelly and. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:09.000 Moross something like that. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:09.960 That's where he was at. 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.639 Yeah. It was funny too because being in Detroit is 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.480 the only time I walked into a liquor store and 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.840 they had the fake weed bags for a dollar apiece. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.000 Man, you know, we burnt out of the t I 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.480 was like, cornersto, you need to get a white tea, 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.560 some socks, all kind of ship. 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.840 It's it's like and you could get like a counterfeit 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.480 Gary Payton Cookie's bag to stuff some bullshit inside of 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:36.080 or I mean, but of course, you know you've got 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:37.880 vapes all up and through there. You got the h 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.840 the chips. How how's the chip game treating good? Yeah? 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:47.200 That Chanel met Chanel. Yeah, that was her thing. She 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.440 pulled me in like a real gangst for sure. 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:52.880 How important is it for you like to just continue 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:57.240 to like push entrepreneurally, whether it's producing movies, whether it's 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.000 launching the juice bar, because I feel like it's always 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.280 something new outside of music with you, which is important. 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.880 You know, it's starting off, I ain't gonna cap like 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.600 at first, just doing like my entrepreneurship shit. I was 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.640 doing that shit for the wrong reasons just to say 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:12.880 I own shit, you know what I'm saying. Like if 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:16.560 I was shorty twenty four, I bought a restaurant and 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.640 a dispensary and the card wise, but I bought that 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.919 shit just to say I had it. But now I 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.680 do it because it's genuinely my passion. Like if I 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.760 open up a business, it's something that I genuinely believe in. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.680 You know what I'm saying. I'm in this shit for 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.000 the money. Now I'm not any for the look. So 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.800 ye man, I don't jump on everything. Pause like you 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.400 know what I mean, I passed a lot of shit up. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.719 I try to be try to be smart with what 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.640 I invest in, you know what I mean. I'm still 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:43.880 I got to get out of using my own money too. 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:44.800 That's a problem for me. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:45.600 I gotta get out of that. 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:47.760 Yeah, they say, you know a lot of a lot 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.240 of the smart folks out here, though, they're really good 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:51.240 at using other people's money. 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.520 Yeah, that's the name of the game. You gotta learn 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.280 how to do that. I gotta get help. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.800 But yeah, it's interesting too, because what I looked at 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.760 as a positive would be somebody who has your background, 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:05.600 somebody who's had your story, your journey through Detroit, not 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.680 only meeting with one presidential candidate, but meeting with two. Yeah, 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:10.600 I look at that as a big deal. 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:13.280 Yeah, they was mad at me, but they had a 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:13.720 lot of people. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:14.640 Wasn't too happy with you. 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.680 I know, that's what I said. That motherfucker was mad. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.960 I feel like people weren'tripping as much. You meet with RFK, 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:20.719 but I feel like once you took the picture with Trump, 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:21.760 motherfuckers was tripping. 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:23.880 Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, I 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:24.640 don't blame them. 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.479 You know, they didn't understand what was going on, and 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.760 they didn't understand my thinking and my mentality about everything 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:36.159 and where I stand just with shit period outside of music. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.559 You know, I don't like I don't know. I don't 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.400 think I talked too much, you know what I mean, 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.920 like about myself other than doing interviews. 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.880 So a motherfucker might not know. I got a whole 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.799 lot of sense, and I know better. I know better 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:52.239 to I know to listen to all If I'm voting, 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.320 I know to listen to all candidates, you know what 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.480 I mean. Don't shut nobody out and don't just run 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.839 with what mainstream media say. I try to do my 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.800 own on independent research. I understand that I don't have 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.479 to have no emotional connection to none of them, you 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.520 know what I mean. I'm not with a party. I'm 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.680 not a Republican, I'm not a Democrat, I'm not any 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.120 of that. I'm just a black man that make music, 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.680 you know what I'm saying from the trenches. So for me, 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.760 it's like I always believe in going to the source 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.240 to ask my questions instead of getting. 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:21.680 Them third hand. 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.280 Yeah, getting them with like a I guess with some 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:26.760 cut on it. Yeah, exactly. 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:28.320 Even even if I hear. 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.560 Some shit that that it's possibly true, I still want 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.200 to figure it out on my own right, you know 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.960 what I'm saying. So, but that aside, I understand why 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:38.960 people would have felt the way, you know, we black, 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.960 we motherfuckers feel how they feel. 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:43.240 You know what I mean. But for me, it's like 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:44.760 I want to go see what's at it. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.200 I feel like too, I feel like two like it. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:51.360 It feels like at times, like you know, somebody who's 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.160 been a lifelong Democrat feels like the Democratic Party takes 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:55.279 advantage of black vote so. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.520 Much, without a doubt, they feel entitled to our. 0:06:58.279 --> 0:06:59.400 They don't have to earn it anymore. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:06.640 Black the black community, lifelong Democrats. Doctor King was registered Republican. Crazy. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.000 That's crazy, right, that's crazy. 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.200 I look at some of the things recently Trump's been saying, 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.280 and I think to myself, if you just removed his 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.760 name and you just were like, wait, somebody came out 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.000 for legalizing weed, and someone came out for not taxing 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.000 overtime hours and not taxing till, she'd be like, that's 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.040 a radical, radical Democrat right there. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.720 Yeah, well you're still a Democrat. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:28.920 I'm independent. 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:29.520 You know. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.680 I hit you when you were RFK because that's what 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:32.600 I was going to vote for. 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:33.960 Yeah, I fuck with RFK. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:35.520 Was talking that. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.960 It ain't about no size with with RFK. It's about 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.200 what right and wrong with him, you know. And he's 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.520 strong about how he feel with his opinions. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:47.080 You know. 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.640 He not a he don't you know, he's not a 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:54.200 trial member, tribal member. He don't move as as if 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.680 he in a tribe like he was a Democrat. 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.840 And they and they made it possible, they made it 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:00.680 impossible for him to stay democratic. 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:02.000 Facts, that's a fact. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:03.080 They changed all kinds. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:06.120 Of rules, tacked homes, you try to keep a gangster with. 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.800 Us about COVID the the whole time, the whole time, 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.520 and he was right, and it came out that he 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.000 was right, but he had already got dragged and got canceled, 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:16.480 and you know all that's crazy. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.760 I think his family like went against him, and shit, 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:19.240 it's wild. 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.040 Well you know, I think some of his family, a 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.520 couple of members are in the biding cabinet and some capacity. 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.000 It's wild though, Like you said, like on that COVID 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:27.400 shit like that. I'm like, bro, this guy was right 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:28.320 the whole time, was right. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.080 I don't think I don't think he'd be right about everything, 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:32.679 but don't know who to be. That's what I was 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:33.160 about to say. 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.840 Ain't nobody one hundred percent correct about everything that they say? 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.720 Excuse me, all their political views and all that, you 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:40.200 know what I mean. 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.960 I don't never believe one hundred percent of everything anybody say. 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.959 You got to have your own mindset, You gotta have 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.240 your own opinions, you know what I mean, Do your 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.120 research and come up with you come come up with. 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.440 Then we got to take our personal feelings out this shit. 0:08:55.600 --> 0:09:00.320 Stop being so emotional attached to politics. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.520 A tribe stopping so tribal exactly. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:03.440 We be tribal. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.640 And people are worried about the vessel more than they're 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:08.480 worried about the policy. 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.120 You know what, people fell and realized them folks as colleagues. 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.200 They all on the same team. 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.520 And they left the left wing, right wing, same bird. 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.640 Same bird, the same bird. They're all on one and 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.800 one team in one circle. They colleagues them. People know 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.360 each other. They genuinely know each other. Yea, it's us 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.120 that two sides, you know what I mean? 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.480 And they and they divide us on like the fringe 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.440 issues that I mean, the ship that really should matter 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:34.920 is like are we going to go to World War 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:35.400 three or not? 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.600 That's what really mattered. I feel like I don't know 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:38.040 the way. 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.720 They got us fighting over like abortion and like random 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.360 friendship where it's like, well what about the world war? 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:46.600 That might be cracking off? 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:48.400 You know, you remember back in the day, like at 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:53.600 the barbershops and ship, the niggas used to disagree on everything, 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:59.000 full fledged arguments, disagreeing, but in a respectful way. They 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.719 was able to no, bro, don't what you're saying don't 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:03.160 make sense. 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:04.000 I look at it like this. 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.640 They would do that ship all day, every day at 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.280 the barber side, it's not the same nom or that 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:12.920 energy is gone. You cannot you can't disagree without being 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.600 attacked verbally, you know what I'm saying, or. 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.319 Or truly like people severing ties with you. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.440 Yeah, or penning you to a specific side. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.000 Yeah, like if you might agree. It's funny I say 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.040 this all the time because it's like I might agree 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.680 with you know, this with Trump or this with the left, 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.800 but it's like it's either all or nothing. It's like 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:34.800 it's all or nothing. 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:35.360 That's a fact. 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:37.040 It's so disheartening. 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:38.040 That's how I am. Though. 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:41.160 I agree with a lot of shit, and not even 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.480 just with with Trump period. Just like conservative ship, I 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.640 agree with a lot of shit they do. I agree 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.720 with shit that Democrats do it. I'm not on no, 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.199 not with a party. Individual. 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.280 Being independent is the way to go, man, the way to. 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.760 Go, y'all staying dependent all the way around nobody. 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.160 Oh, I tell this to everybody, nobody on drivo. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:10:59.760 Fuck. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:01.840 And then when people are trying to be like, well, 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.760 if you vote for RFK, you're throwing your vote away, 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.200 and I'm like, it's my vote, dog, it's not throwing 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.040 Like to me, that that's the that's the state of 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.280 mind that they want you to be in. So you 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.760 have to choose between two parties, and it's like, what's 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.800 my vote? Fuck with y'all think I ain't throwing my 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:19.960 vote away because I'm voting with who I feel like 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:20.920 is the best choice. 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:21.640 That's a fact. 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:25.760 So it's interesting to say the least. Man, I'm curious, man, like, uh, 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.480 you know, it feels like the energy in Detroit has been, 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.880 at least amongst all the leaders of the hip hop community, 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:33.760 has been real positive. 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:34.640 Yeah, has been. 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.840 Everybody's been moving you to sit in the same direction. 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.040 Do you feel that energy from your perspective as well? 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:41.559 Yeah? I do. 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.200 I feel like that even when it be like lit 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.720 shit or somebody might disagree with each other, it's shit. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.559 Stay behind the scenes. They don't get too far, you 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.319 know what I'm saying. We try to all be respectful 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.680 to our city and not fuck up this opportunity for 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.920 ourselves like that, ain't she ain't got it the internet, 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.440 especially if it's some real life shit. Real life is 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.240 real life. The Internet ain't real life. We got to 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.520 learn how to separate that. The Internet is a facade, 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.400 you know what I'm saying, ain't that she ain't real, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.880 it's not tangible. That shit is highlights and a lot 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:16.080 of games, you know what I mean. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:21.080 So no one's gonna post the bad times on Instagram. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:21.600 On this a fact. 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.880 So yeah, I think we do a great job with 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:26.480 keeping whatever business private. 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:28.920 Do you feel like that was like one thing that 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.120 was working against Detroit for a lot of years, was 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.680 just so much conflict with everybody, you know, like a 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:35.760 negative kind of cloud. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.240 I felt like it was definitely a negative cloud. But 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.200 I don't think that's what the problem was. I think 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.480 the problem was the world didn't understand that sign. I 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.719 remember in like two thousand and fourteen, bro, I went 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.960 to New York and I was playing I went to 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.439 play one of the biggest songs in Detroit at the time, 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:53.480 two of them. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.960 It was money Phone, Money Phone was my shit, and I. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.640 Had a song called Dancing. I went to play that 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:00.880 shit in New York for the labels. They like, what 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.439 the fuck is this? They thought it was trash, they 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.600 thought it was terrible. It's the same type of beasts 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:10.160 that I wrap on right now, same lingos, same everything. 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.240 The world just was wasn't ready to understand, to accept 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.160 that sound. It took some time. It's a unique sound, 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.040 you know what I'm saying. Our music sped up everything 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.080 fast now, that motherfucker. Like, So, I just think it 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.280 was the timing. I don't think it was necessarily the 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.560 beasts niggas said. I mean, at the end of the day, 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:32.079 usually the smoke turns it up, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.200 We're being ignorant about it. But yeah, I think that's 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.320 a fair point sound and the timing. 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.600 Yeah, yeah, it's interesting too because now you'll hear like 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:47.520 so many non even Midwest artists, the Detroit sound, even 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:52.440 like the style of like you Knowdens, just the way 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:56.000 bars are delivered. I'm like, man, Rio's influenced so many people. 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:57.920 Real influence the whole generation. 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.160 It's kind of crazy. It's like I feel like there's 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:01.800 even kids that don't even know who they're influenced by. 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:03.640 I'm like, yeah, like you really sound like a little 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:04.800 like baby, really, you know, I. 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.600 Really like that. It's really like that in real life. 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.600 I appreciate that shit though, Like niggas ain't gotta fuck 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.280 with our sound, you know what I mean. So when 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.520 niggas from like other cities and states rap on our 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.040 type of instrumentals. It ain't doing nothing but help push 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.600 our agenda out further because this is something that we 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.520 mastered already. So if you you you doing you you 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.040 just trying it, and if it worked for you, it's 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.200 good for us. Because this is sound we mastered. We 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.160 can just go follow them them saying footsteps with some 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.880 shit that we already got locked down. So you know, 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.600 we definitely ain't one of them type of places where 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.080 it's like everybody want to sound like use. 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.720 We don't think like that. Niggas ain't gotta fuck with 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:43.200 the sound. 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.760 Niggas is pushing that agenda for us, you know what 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.600 I'm saying, Because it might not say, if I'm a 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.400 fucking Delaware it might not take a Detroit artist for 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.280 Delaware to respect the Detroit sound. Might take a nigga 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.000 from Delaware to rap on a Detroit beat to make 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.920 Delaware respect that sound, right, So they pushing the agenda, 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:02.560 They pushing that sound for us. 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:03.520 You know what I'm saying. 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:05.440 How big of a deal was it for you man, 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.680 being through everything you've been through with obviously being incarcerated, 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.640 coming back out kind of having a hit reset, going 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:16.840 through it with it was motown, right, yeah, and then 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.440 ended up, you know, getting a plaque off of Up 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.160 the Score like that had to be like a real 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:24.480 independently too. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:25.160 Like off the show. 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.360 That had to be I mean that that's gotta to 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.680 me that that means more than like on Diamond One. 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:32.280 That was one of the moments for me, you know 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.120 what I'm saying, the fact that it was independent. You're 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.960 at the same time it was mo so like that't 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.600 need more. I ain't even really ready to celebrate this 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:41.800 shit because I need some more. 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:42.400 Right. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.120 I did this ship once. I can do this shit 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.240 again and again and again and again, you know what 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.400 I'm saying. So that's just how I see it. But 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.080 it was still one of the moments because it was independent. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.840 Yeah, what is uh. 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.800 You know for you this go around because obviously you're 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.680 with QC. Now are you still with QC? 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:58.760 I'm independent, so. 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.800 You're back independent. That was the last album, that was 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.560 the last project with q S, So you're back to 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:05.400 fully being into. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.040 It's gonna stay that way. I don't know why I 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.239 do real good. I just do real good when I'm independent, 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.160 I do I do amazing. I don't know what it is. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.200 I feel like I put in the same exact type 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.160 of work, you know what I mean. It's just shit, 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.720 just shit, just turn up for me every time I'm independent. 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.080 I think too, man, I think, you know, I know. 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.840 I feel like you have like a good team, like 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.360 in a good infrastructure where I'm not sure like outside 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.120 of an advance what a label could do for you, 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.080 because you understand how to work your ship more than 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.080 any label would understand how to work your ship. So 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.440 it's like you It's what I say all the time. 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.680