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Speaker 1: Buck Brief. The one and only DC Draino joins on

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Speaker 1: this one. Our friend Rogan o'hanley in the mix, and

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Speaker 1: he is a force of nature on Instagram. He has

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Speaker 1: millions and millions of followers. There goes viral like it's

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Speaker 1: his job. Well, I guess it is his job, goes

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Speaker 1: viral constantly and is a true People are called influencers, Dreno.

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Speaker 1: You actually influence the trajectory of conversations on the Internet.

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Speaker 2: So we are honored to have you here. Good to

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Speaker 2: see you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me Buck, And you were someone

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Speaker 3: I looked up to when I first started in this

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Speaker 3: whole sector. So it's good to be on and honor.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's very kind, man. That's like the nicest things.

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Speaker 1: It's Valentine's Day. That's like the nicest thing anyone's gonna

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Speaker 1: say to me all day. Probably anyway, CIA and foreign

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Speaker 1: intelligence agencies, according to The New York Post, illegally targeted

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Speaker 1: twenty six Trump associates before the twenty sixteen Russia collusion claims.

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Speaker 2: There's a bombshell, tell me what's going on here? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, Michael Schallenberger is an independent journalists. A lot of

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Speaker 3: people may remember him from dropping a lot of the

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Speaker 3: Twitter files. He and Matt Taibi and I think it

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Speaker 3: was Barry Weiss was the third that Elon kind of

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Speaker 3: today or tomorrow. But as a summary, so a lot

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Speaker 3: of people know that Russia cocclusion was a hoax and

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Speaker 3: Crossfire Hurricane was the operation to ensnare Trump, and you know,

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Speaker 3: Devin Nunez and the House Intel Committee, and they did

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Speaker 3: this was actually a DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign funded

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Speaker 3: Steele dossier used to frame Trump and provide enough justification

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Speaker 3: for the FBI to get FISA spy warrants and spy

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Speaker 3: on the sitting president of the United States. And what

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Speaker 3: this Schellenberger bombshell has disclosed is this wasn't just an

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Speaker 3: operation started in July or August of twenty sixteen. This

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Speaker 3: actually went a year and a half before the election.

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Speaker 3: The CIA has been exposed as working with foreign the

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Speaker 3: Five Eyes surveillance spy network the UK, New Zealand, Australia, Canada,

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Speaker 3: And they used their colleagues in that network and said, hey,

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Speaker 3: can you spy domestically in the US. We're not allowed to.

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Speaker 3: Can you spy on these twenty six individuals in the

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Speaker 1: So as you know, and people always ask me why,

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Speaker 1: just to clear the air. I joined the CIA directly

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Speaker 2: That was it.

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Speaker 1: After nine to eleven, I'm like, I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: I felt the politicization good war, bad war, rock Afghanistan.

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Speaker 1: and also the real ideologues, the deep state entities. When

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Speaker 1: So I left. I bring it up though, because obviously

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Speaker 1: I know how the agency is supposed to function, what

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Speaker 1: US intelligence sharing partners in the soul called Five Eyes agencies,

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Speaker 1: That's a special intelli and sharing relationship that does exist.

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Speaker 1: This is a real thing. And this is in the

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Speaker 1: sub stack that was published by Michael Schellenberger. So what

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Speaker 1: this would be, Dreno would be a CIA director going

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Speaker 1: to truly our closest allies. Right, the Five Eyes exist

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Speaker 1: Is this is new in the world of Russia collusion,

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is astonishing stuff.

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Speaker 3: It gets worse somehow. So you know, as a little

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Speaker 3: potentially involved in spying on US president. But it gets

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Speaker 3: worse because you know, you could say that this is treason, right,

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Speaker 3: this is treason. And part of the issue is Trump

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Speaker 3: have posited the theory and I believe this is very

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Speaker 3: true that the FBI rated Mara a Lago, not because

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Speaker 3: Trump didn't cross his t's and dot his eyes with

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Speaker 3: Trump is actually different because he actually had declassification authority

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Speaker 1: We used to talk about this in the agency Rogan

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Speaker 1: Now people can say, oh, well, that's not technically how

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to work. It's the president's information. But what

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Speaker 1: like just to give people a sense of the authority

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Speaker 1: that the chief of the executive branch has, it is

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Speaker 3: The president doesn't work for the CIA or the FBI.

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Speaker 3: this binder, so Schellenberger has disclosed it. It's about a

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Speaker 3: partnering with foreign adversaries, not adversaries, foreign allies, but foreign

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Speaker 3: that's treason by definition. And I believe that this is

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Speaker 3: there's going to be a deep clean. Now, obviously, we

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Speaker 3: wish Trump would have done this in the first term.

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Speaker 3: We wish you would have drained the swant, We wish

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Speaker 3: you would have fired a lot of people. But it's

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Speaker 3: not that easy. But I do believe. That's why these

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Speaker 3: That's why he's got lawsuits coming from every blue state

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Speaker 3: fight for our country. I think it's an honorable thing.

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Speaker 3: But it's the very senior levels where the deepest corruption

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Speaker 3: is because the CIA is very compartmentalized. You could probably

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Speaker 3: talk more about this. It's not like, you know, say

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Speaker 3: there's ten thousand plays, not like they all know what's

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Speaker 1: That would be a huge shot, That would be a

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Speaker 1: huge security vulnerability in and of itself. I mean there

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Speaker 1: is there are actual rules, there are laws that separate

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Speaker 1: there's need to no compartment compartmentalization, which is critical to

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Speaker 1: right So when I anyway, Yeah, but what you said,

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Speaker 1: that's really what you said. That's really a bombshell though.

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Speaker 1: I think is you this is your analysis. Your assessment

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Speaker 1: pre Russia collusion. As we know, it's spying ordered by

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Speaker 3: I do believe that is the core underlying issue. And

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Speaker 3: we've already learned that Obama, Joe, Biden, Brennan, they all

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Speaker 3: got desperate. They couldn't actually find anything that tied the

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Speaker 3: Putin invaded Crimea under Obama and he invaded the don

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Speaker 3: would have led him if he was. It's all a farce.

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Speaker 1: It makes it makes no sense.

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Speaker 3: Makes Trump was actually very tough against Putin. And you

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Speaker 1: Just one more for you, for all the DC DRENO

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Speaker 3: Great to see it, Buck, thank you,