Speaker 1: Hey, this is Thomas Q. Jones and you're listening to
Speaker 1: the NFL players Second Acts Podcast. Thank you all for
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Speaker 1: I'm Peanut Tillman and I got my guy with me,
Speaker 1: my right hand man, Roman, send your harbor. Do do
Speaker 1: do do do? Do you know I was just accused.
Speaker 1: I was just about to accuse you, Peanut, not bringing
Speaker 1: the energy this morning. But I was completely just way
Speaker 1: ahead of myself right there. Let me bring it back.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that introduction. I don't know where that
Speaker 1: comes from, but I'm just here to say thank you
Speaker 1: for it. I appreciate it. Also, I want to thank
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Speaker 1: promise you will not let you down with our guests. Today,
Speaker 1: I bring that energy because I had some lines, man,
Speaker 1: some more some mushrooms. Man, it just got you got
Speaker 1: me the mood. I just I was feeling chars and
Speaker 1: ready to go. So today, you know, y'all we got
Speaker 1: a special guests. Um, this gentleman played ten years in
Speaker 1: the NFL, made a pro bowling on five, got drafted
Speaker 1: by the Cardinals, played in Denver for a while. Now
Speaker 1: if you're playing after in the NFL, now he is
Speaker 1: a mushroom farmer. So y'all show some love for Jake
Speaker 1: the snake blah. And like Rome said, I'm feeling the
Speaker 1: air man. I went by your website and everyone got
Speaker 1: long hair. I feel like to grow mushrooms, man, Like
Speaker 1: everyone's got the long hair. I'm feeling it. You know.
Speaker 1: The long hair for me right now is just uh,
Speaker 1: it got to a point where it stopped being annoying
Speaker 1: and now it's long hair, and it's just I got
Speaker 1: long hair now. So it might be gone this summer
Speaker 1: when it gets hot, but for now, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I don't think it has anything
Speaker 1: to do with the mushrooms, but you know, Chautauki mushrooms
Speaker 1: do help with you know, your hair and nails. Helped
Speaker 1: promote like hair and nail growth. So you know, one
Speaker 1: little fun fact about fun guy. You might not know. So,
Speaker 1: what made you get into the whole mush like? So
Speaker 1: I know you retired, what made you get into the
Speaker 1: whole mushroom thing? I know, I know Calvin Johnson has
Speaker 1: the marijuana and everything. What what made you get into mushrooms? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, it's been a long, long journey to get
Speaker 1: to hear And there was no uh you know, setting
Speaker 1: out to be a mushroom farmer or even I didn't
Speaker 1: didn't really know that I would be getting into doing
Speaker 1: this until just before the pandemic. I had a had
Speaker 1: a lunch meeting with my my business partner, Dale Jolly,
Speaker 1: who's a partner of mine, to help start Umbo. And
Speaker 1: actually that's when I he introduced me to Rashad Evans,
Speaker 1: former UFC Hall of Famer who was also a co
Speaker 1: founder of Umbo and has used you know, in his
Speaker 1: last fight when he came out of retirement. He used
Speaker 1: the products when he was training and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: being an older guy training with these young kids, he
Speaker 1: had the energy. He was actually bringing it like you did, peanut,
Speaker 1: Like he was bringing the energy to the to the
Speaker 1: workouts and and the guys were like, what are you doing,
Speaker 1: you know, and he was recovering and then he went
Speaker 1: and fought and he won, and he was so calm
Speaker 1: and peaceful in the ring, and it was it was
Speaker 1: something that when I when I met him, you know,
Speaker 1: we started this idea. We we started taking some teasterres
Speaker 1: that my buddy Dale gave us, and we've we felt
Speaker 1: the benefits. We felt our immune system. We felt like
Speaker 1: this virus going around, we were we were okay because
Speaker 1: we were being we were taking the right stuff. My
Speaker 1: energy levels were good, my sleep got better, I didn't
Speaker 1: have my allergies in the in the springtime, and so
Speaker 1: I was a believer. And you know, the dive into
Speaker 1: this started my buddy Dale. Actually is when I met
Speaker 1: him was in Charlotte's Web. When I was working with
Speaker 1: Charlotte's Web and the himp oil and as you guys
Speaker 1: probably remember, no like eight years ago, I was trying
Speaker 1: along with some other guys to try to get this
Speaker 1: into the hands of the players through the nfl p
Speaker 1: A and whatnot. And it was it was federally federally
Speaker 1: listed as a Schedule one drug, the same as heroin. Cocaine,
Speaker 1: and that's HIMP. We're talking about just one plant that
Speaker 1: got confused with marijuana. And now we see himp. A
Speaker 1: lot of guys are having their own brands and and
Speaker 1: endorsing it and getting behind it because they felt the
Speaker 1: benefits of this plant of nature. And so that got
Speaker 1: me into this, uh, this this like path of bringing
Speaker 1: a different mode of healing or something that may help
Speaker 1: just take the edge off of your pain or even
Speaker 1: take a little bit off of you know, the fogginess
Speaker 1: in your brain or whatever it was. And we as
Speaker 1: athletes are so aware of our bodies that just that's
Speaker 1: my small minute change and something can set us free.
Speaker 1: And so that was a really big big thing to
Speaker 1: do to start that. And then and the understand the
Speaker 1: power and of nature and the medicine that that she provides,
Speaker 1: Mother Mother Earth, and so then getting into this mushroom
Speaker 1: business we're talking about. You know, mushrooms have their own kingdom.
Speaker 1: I call it a queendom because I think you know,
Speaker 1: they're they're they just are like the mother. They they're
Speaker 1: underneath the ground and my celial network, the way they
Speaker 1: help share everything underneath the ground with plants, the way
Speaker 1: everything filters through them, and the future holds a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of things are gonna start changing once people,
Speaker 1: uh learn a little more about mushrooms, like, oh, psilocybin,
Speaker 1: I don't want to trip out. I don't want to
Speaker 1: go on a journey and have like hallucinations. Well that's
Speaker 1: just one. That's one mushroom in the whole entire kingdom queendom.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's just one. And just like the
Speaker 1: difference between marijuana and himp, we had to let people know,
Speaker 1: like you can take hip, take himp, and you can
Speaker 1: go to work. You won't be high, you won't have
Speaker 1: that psychotropic feeling. And so again it's a chance to educate,
Speaker 1: but also a chance to just kind of live it.
Speaker 1: I take the mushrooms every day. I got the farm.
Speaker 1: That's just like another opportunity came through my buddy Dale
Speaker 1: to go start growing them. And you know, as a
Speaker 1: former player going through transition, you know, it's never over
Speaker 1: the transition because we're always linking back to like like
Speaker 1: this next week, going to the Super Bowl, going down
Speaker 1: to be amongst the players, you go right back to
Speaker 1: who you were when you were that whether it's your
Speaker 1: alter ego or whatever. It is, you go back to
Speaker 1: that guy. So we're never out of that, we're always
Speaker 1: transitioning back into our normal lives once we step back
Speaker 1: into the fold. And you know, this is giving me
Speaker 1: a chance to really grow and feel what it's like
Speaker 1: to grow things and put intention into these beautiful organisms
Speaker 1: to help people, you know, hopefully optimize their health and wellness.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's been a fun journey and I can't
Speaker 1: wait to continue to spread this word and thank you
Speaker 1: for being interested, because that's really the first thing is like, huh,
Speaker 1: I'd like to think clear, I'd like to sleep better,
Speaker 1: I'd like to have a little less inflammation. And it
Speaker 1: seems like this, this, this whole queendom is undiscovered, undiscovered
Speaker 1: and has a plethora of healing healing in it that
Speaker 1: we're just discovering. So it's a really exciting time. I'm
Speaker 1: excited because I just bought four or four of your
Speaker 1: apologize for the back right, I'm getting some work done
Speaker 1: on my house, but I bought four of you got
Speaker 1: like a four you got a four piece. I bought
Speaker 1: the four piece, and I'm I'm looking forward to sleeping,
Speaker 1: feeling working, just getting getting swollen. I'm I'm I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to. My goal right now is three fifteen on
Speaker 1: the bench. So hopefully these mushrooms can get me up
Speaker 1: and going at it. You know what I'm saying, Well, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, who knows, maybe they will if
Speaker 1: you if you put that intention into them, they're pretty
Speaker 1: uh pretty amazing, Maybe they'll help you get there. So,
Speaker 1: so Jake, I want to talk about this transition a
Speaker 1: little bit for you. Um, you were thirty two years
Speaker 1: old and you retired, and kind of take me back
Speaker 1: through because we all have our different journeys and stories
Speaker 1: of when we put the ball down and we take
Speaker 1: our pads off, Um, what do we do next or
Speaker 1: how do we continue to strive and be great in
Speaker 1: the in the lane that you're in for so long
Speaker 1: and now you step away you're thirty two years old,
Speaker 1: because you maybe take me into that first year of
Speaker 1: after you retired. What were you doing? I know you
Speaker 1: and I've listened to some of your podcast places or
Speaker 1: interviews that you've done. You did a lot of handballing
Speaker 1: around the country. You you're you're still trying to stay active,
Speaker 1: and you also like to read about read a lot
Speaker 1: in the morning. I think you'd like to read about
Speaker 1: just new things. What you described as you said you'd
Speaker 1: like to read about the transition was was interesting. As
Speaker 1: you know, I played the four straight years at a
Speaker 1: s U, got drafted to the Cardinals and started halfway
Speaker 1: through my rookie year, So there was really basically fourteen
Speaker 1: straight years of high level football, and you know, my
Speaker 1: body was really taking a beating. I was up to
Speaker 1: about two d and twelve pounds. You know, you gotta
Speaker 1: get bigger, you gotta get bigger. And it was constant
Speaker 1: grind to just be that person. And I loved I
Speaker 1: loved it. I love being the quarterback of the team
Speaker 1: and relating to all my teammates and the players and
Speaker 1: the whole organization. Um. But there was a lot of
Speaker 1: there was a lot of there's a lot of stress there.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of expectations that were hard to basically
Speaker 1: unable to fulfill all the expectations that were heaped upon me.
Speaker 1: So that took a toll mentally and spiritually, you know,
Speaker 1: like just being able to like feel good about myself
Speaker 1: and who I am. As a lot of guys lead
Speaker 1: the league, they feel like they leave in failure, even
Speaker 1: though they played nine years with their cut their last camp,
Speaker 1: and they're like they leave with a bad taste in
Speaker 1: their mouth and they don't remember like those nine years
Speaker 1: where you were in it and doing a core point,
Speaker 1: such a point, you know, one of the few people
Speaker 1: in the world that do what we do. And at
Speaker 1: one point in my life, I was one of the
Speaker 1: you know, probably top fifteen quarterbacks in the entire world,
Speaker 1: in the entire world. And so when you when you
Speaker 1: can go and look back at that in your transition,
Speaker 1: as as as hard as hell to go through a
Speaker 1: transition when we have everything do undone for us. We
Speaker 1: know where we're gonna be in April, we know what
Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing November. We got our schedule, and
Speaker 1: you get back into life if you don't plan for that,
Speaker 1: which I know there's some things out there to help
Speaker 1: guys plan, but a lot of guys you gotta be
Speaker 1: in it in the NFL. You can't think about, oh,
Speaker 1: in four years, I might retire and get into being
Speaker 1: a gardener, a mushroom farmer. You know, like you don't
Speaker 1: put any extra time thinking down the line because you're
Speaker 1: so you have to be so in it during that
Speaker 1: time at present. So when I retired. It was a
Speaker 1: chance for me to just get away. I moved up
Speaker 1: to North Idaho. I got out of the crowd. I
Speaker 1: got away so I could just be another human for
Speaker 1: a little bit. See what it felt like to go
Speaker 1: to a grocery store and not get noticed, not have
Speaker 1: people stopping me everywhere I went. And that was nice.
Speaker 1: It was really good. And then, um, you know, I
Speaker 1: got married. Soon after I retired. Traveled a lot, which
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun, and I did play a
Speaker 1: lot of handball. Handball was camaraderie, a good chance to
Speaker 1: get out and compete and run around. I'm still playing handball.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta match tonight. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that that keeps me moving.
Speaker 1: You know. You guys, you guys know our bodies are
Speaker 1: beat up, and we can buy into that narrative and oh,
Speaker 1: we're beat up old football players with arthritis and the
Speaker 1: futures doesn't look great with some of the other things
Speaker 1: we we have to I don't like talking about much,
Speaker 1: but with the trauma to our heads and concussions and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But you can change that narrative and
Speaker 1: just be active and be active in the moment now
Speaker 1: and not worry about what maybe down the line. Um.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing that's so beautiful about the mushrooms
Speaker 1: is I think it's it's for longevity. For me, it's
Speaker 1: for it's for cleaning myself up now, but also planning
Speaker 1: to live a long time and live healthy and and
Speaker 1: be active. And uh, yeah, it's been a great transition.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, here I am sixteen years out, uh,
Speaker 1: still still in it, you know, with the NFL being
Speaker 1: something that is always gonna be part of me, but
Speaker 1: really being able to bring something to the table here
Speaker 1: now that's gonna, I believe, help a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of people optimize their their time in the league
Speaker 1: and then post post career um. Because really, I don't
Speaker 1: know how many guys on these Super Bowl teams are
Speaker 1: are eating mushrooms in their diet. I believe that these
Speaker 1: organisms have an ability to balance out our bodies their adaptations.
Speaker 1: They're very strong adaptations. And uh, you know, my transition
Speaker 1: now into being into this space is really a gift.
Speaker 1: I get to share something with people that can help
Speaker 1: them feel better, and I'm I love it. It's a
Speaker 1: It's a great path to be on. Okay, Jake your
Speaker 1: mushroom company, my co love, right, and I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: And they want to try and ask why do you
Speaker 1: sell these things? Are just that another? Instead, I want
Speaker 1: to piggyback and try and help sell it yourself. And
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me which one you think
Speaker 1: I should look at. So for me, I look at
Speaker 1: the Turkey Tale Teincshert all right, and the Turkey Tale
Speaker 1: Tincsherts described it is described as this. It's really the
Speaker 1: attribute of it that I love is number one that
Speaker 1: they say it grows on evergreen trees and therefore must
Speaker 1: have the standing power of the trees it has. It
Speaker 1: has over four hundred clinical studies published in in Japan
Speaker 1: and China in the past thirty years showing the benefits
Speaker 1: to the immune system. And I know this from looking
Speaker 1: at YouTube on all my other crazy things I do,
Speaker 1: all right, that Japan has the longest living lifespan of
Speaker 1: any country in the world. It's not a big deal
Speaker 1: for Japanese people to live in their upper eighties to
Speaker 1: a hundred plus years old. That's like normal to them,
Speaker 1: which is not normal here in the USA. Jake the Snake,
Speaker 1: please baby, continue to sell me more on which one
Speaker 1: I should use, either the Rishi or the Turkey Tell.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Turkey tell MYSELFE all three all that's what
Speaker 1: I did. Take them all. It's all gonna help you come.
Speaker 1: Let's go now. You you make some great points. A
Speaker 1: great great to bring up Turkey Tell and Rashi. Um,
Speaker 1: two amazing mushrooms that we grow out at Michael Love
Speaker 1: at the farm. Um. You know, the great things being
Speaker 1: able to grow these and extract them, and then and
Speaker 1: then here soon to be able to put them in
Speaker 1: the Umbo bottles, which is Umbo is the company that uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we started this whole thing with, and we're
Speaker 1: doing teink shirts and some really good bars. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be down in the down handing them out to anybody,
Speaker 1: all the legends and everybody, uh to get him a
Speaker 1: taste of a bar with two and a half grams
Speaker 1: of functional mushrooms in them. And again answering the question,
Speaker 1: can I eat this and go to work with this?
Speaker 1: Trip me outright? Of course you can. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not pedaling bars with psilocybin in them at the super
Speaker 1: Bowl like you think I want to go to prison. No,
Speaker 1: I'm still Schedule one it's still listed same as cocaine
Speaker 1: and heroin. The psilocybin mushroom. Now, Turkey tale is a
Speaker 1: great mushroom. It's prescribed in Japan for cancer patients. And
Speaker 1: another thing that Turkey tale does that's amazing is that
Speaker 1: it's been known to go in and protect your cell
Speaker 1: surrounding the cancer sales. So when you get a dose
Speaker 1: i radiation or chemo, the chemo goes and and attacks
Speaker 1: of cancerous sales and everything around it. Right, well, if
Speaker 1: you have the turkey tail on your system, what they're
Speaker 1: seeing signs of is that the turkey tail protects those
Speaker 1: other cells that are not cancerous, so you're not killing out,
Speaker 1: you know, all these good sales in your body, and
Speaker 1: so they're having really good results with cancer patients coming
Speaker 1: out of chemo. Um you know, enough to perk your
Speaker 1: ears up and go wait a second, let's let's let's
Speaker 1: see why why this is happening in another country. We
Speaker 1: all want to live optimally. We all want to live
Speaker 1: less pain, with less pain, with more vitality and longevity
Speaker 1: in our minds, and we all want to do this,
Speaker 1: but we also a lot of people want proof that
Speaker 1: that's what it does. You know, we wouldn't. I don't
Speaker 1: want to wait a hundred years to do this. I
Speaker 1: want to get this these this research done now and
Speaker 1: start getting people to understand there is something out there
Speaker 1: that Mother Earth provides us that could very well help us,
Speaker 1: UM just defend ourselves against everything we are faced with
Speaker 1: in this daily world of stress viruses, you know, everything
Speaker 1: out there, all the chemicals and toxins. UM. You know
Speaker 1: you mentioned Rahi. Rahi is my favorite mushroom. It's definitely
Speaker 1: one that that you called the mushroom of immortality. UM.
Speaker 1: And when you bring up the p Fitt three pathway,
Speaker 1: that's deep knowledge right there that people don't even know
Speaker 1: about their bodies, sort of like when we discovered the
Speaker 1: indocnnabinoid system in our bodies in to realize that we
Speaker 1: have receptors for CBD, the cannabinoids that are in HIMP
Speaker 1: and so these are things that we're just starting to
Speaker 1: find out, even researching the brain and finding out more
Speaker 1: about neuroplasticity and the fact that we can regrow our
Speaker 1: neuronal pathways in our brand and in our brain and
Speaker 1: make those connections that have been maybe severed through an accident,
Speaker 1: a car accident or through serving as a veteran or
Speaker 1: from playing football. And that's another mushroom lining main that
Speaker 1: gets me real excited because there's so many compounds in
Speaker 1: these mushrooms we don't know, but a few of them
Speaker 1: just like cannabis that we started out calling at cb D,
Speaker 1: well now they're CBQ, cbr, CB all this stuff because
Speaker 1: we've gone in and explored this plant. That's what needs
Speaker 1: to happen with these mushrooms, and that's the exciting part.
Speaker 1: Lion's Main helps with nerve growth factor, so you know,
Speaker 1: neuronal pathways that are damaged or severed, Lion's Man is
Speaker 1: showing support and helping regrow neural neuronal pathways throughout our
Speaker 1: whole body. And I know that when I go to
Speaker 1: bed at night, I'm excited to close my eyes and
Speaker 1: I go right to sleep because it enhances my dream state.
Speaker 1: When I'm dreaming, I dream like in full color, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, with people that I see the day before
Speaker 1: they come back into my dream and we're doing stuff together,
Speaker 1: or I had a crazy dream. You guys know. Jamir
Speaker 1: Miller played in the league for a long time. One
Speaker 1: of my one of my homies from back of the
Speaker 1: cardinal days. I had a dream and he was in it.
Speaker 1: And then I will up from my dream and I
Speaker 1: went and used the restroom and then I came back
Speaker 1: and went to sleep, and I right when I got
Speaker 1: into my dream, Jamir was there, going, hey, you're back,
Speaker 1: let's go. And I've never had that happen right, like
Speaker 1: that was cool. So I called them that that day.
Speaker 1: I called them like, yo, man, I had a crazy dream.
Speaker 1: If you did it? And so then we reconnected and
Speaker 1: now you know, I'm back in connection with one of
Speaker 1: my favorite teammates. So another one that we don't talk
Speaker 1: about much and that that's been known for a long time.
Speaker 1: It's court aceps, and court aceps is uh vasodilator. It
Speaker 1: helps bring oxygen to your blood. When you guys, go
Speaker 1: work out, Peanut, when you're trying to bench three fifteen
Speaker 1: and you're you start to go, your body naturally sends
Speaker 1: out an a TP boost and didn't seem triphosphate moves
Speaker 1: to your muscles to say, hey, let's go, let's go. Time.
Speaker 1: Court aceps actually naturally will enhance that process so that
Speaker 1: you it happens now, it happens effortlessly and there's no crash.
Speaker 1: There's no down, there's no sugars, there's no anything that
Speaker 1: to give you that natural inner you that court accepts provides.
Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing. Mushroom Oh my god. Yeah. And for
Speaker 1: all those listeners out there that don't know a t
Speaker 1: p s all you need to know about those, Jake
Speaker 1: dropped a truth bomb on this. A t p s
Speaker 1: are all about energy and storage function. That's all it's about.
Speaker 1: Keep it moving, Jake, Go ahead, baby, you got it. Yeah, great,
Speaker 1: thank you for the extra little bit there. We're but
Speaker 1: we're finding out more and more as we get dive
Speaker 1: deeper into these mushrooms. And it's an entire food group
Speaker 1: that we eliminated from our diets basically as a culture,
Speaker 1: and we're just getting reintroduced to it. This isn't any
Speaker 1: new knowledge. I'm not like going and discovering new stuff
Speaker 1: that the whole world is gonna be um soon to be.
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're they're turning to it already. As
Speaker 1: as Western culture and our Western medicine keeps doing the
Speaker 1: same thing. Um, you know, people are looking for other alternatives.
Speaker 1: And I gotta say that just taking the tinctures isn't
Speaker 1: the reason why I feel good and have energy throughout
Speaker 1: the day and feel like I've load down my aging process.
Speaker 1: I've added a lot of other things to that along
Speaker 1: with the you know, good diet, uh you know, watching
Speaker 1: what I what I drink, watching how I speak, watching
Speaker 1: the people that I'm around, and just changing my whole
Speaker 1: entire you know, the way I flow, and I do
Speaker 1: a lot of yoga. I try to stay active and
Speaker 1: move and so you know, sometimes you get out of
Speaker 1: the game and you feel start feeling the pain that
Speaker 1: can set in, and it's debilitating and it keeps you,
Speaker 1: uh sedentary, you don't want to move, and you don't
Speaker 1: feel like going out to see your buddies, and you're
Speaker 1: just and this, these these things seem to have been
Speaker 1: able to allow me that freedom, the information and my
Speaker 1: my joints is gone. I just I feel like I
Speaker 1: have to share this. I gotta let everybody know because
Speaker 1: I know we're all going through whatever we're going through,
Speaker 1: we all have life happening, and to have life happening
Speaker 1: along with old injuries or the thought of what could
Speaker 1: be down the road from man, I've had, you know,
Speaker 1: I know, personally, I've had probably at least four to
Speaker 1: five concussions where I was knocked out other times, bang
Speaker 1: my head numerous times. But there are guys that have
Speaker 1: had hundreds of concussions or mild traumatic brain injuries, and
Speaker 1: the narrative is set and it's it's a scary. It's
Speaker 1: a scary thing in that future that we look forward to,
Speaker 1: like CTE dementia Alzheimer's, Like my goal is to try
Speaker 1: to reverse that narrative, to to UH, to start doing
Speaker 1: some studies with some former players to raise quality of
Speaker 1: life using functional mushrooms. And also I am a believer
Speaker 1: in psychedelic psilocybin mushrooms as a form of healing. Also
Speaker 1: at a whole another level of for for in ceremony
Speaker 1: as a sacred medicine for approaching some things that may
Speaker 1: be looming from your childhood or something that you may
Speaker 1: have gone through as a trauma that you didn't even
Speaker 1: realize how a traumatic imprint on your on your your
Speaker 1: system and you just shoved it away. What do we
Speaker 1: do and what do you do being it? When you
Speaker 1: got hurt on a tackle, could you go take a
Speaker 1: break and like no, you push that pain a right,
Speaker 1: you depressed it. We get real good as like NFL
Speaker 1: players just I feel Saturday too bad. Push it down.
Speaker 1: I gotta practice, I gotta be the leader. I gotta exactly.
Speaker 1: And so you know, I believe that you know, we can.
Speaker 1: We can help shift the narrative of what former players
Speaker 1: or anybody who who has had a lot of traumatic
Speaker 1: brain injuries or mild traumatic brain injuries to not look
Speaker 1: forward or not look at the future as though gloom
Speaker 1: of what could be. But let's start doing this. We
Speaker 1: can study. Let's start studying and trying to reverse the
Speaker 1: effects that we that we caused on our bodies playing
Speaker 1: this wonderful game. Let's let's really be progressive on this
Speaker 1: and look long term at the health and wellness of
Speaker 1: of these players. And then once we do that, people
Speaker 1: start to listen to the general public looks up to us.
Speaker 1: So we have to be real careful, you know what
Speaker 1: we get behind And I'm one behind this too again
Speaker 1: as a gift, as a gift being connected with some
Speaker 1: great people, as a gift to share this too people.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, it's really exciting. And h and Peanut,
Speaker 1: this is my last little one because my wife, you
Speaker 1: know I said it before. My wife has always she's
Speaker 1: been micro Docan and Jake, you don't know this, but
Speaker 1: my wife's Native Americans. So she's all about going the
Speaker 1: psychedelic route to really get rid of and fight those
Speaker 1: demons or things that we've all suppressed at some point
Speaker 1: in time. She's a really big She takes Lins Maine
Speaker 1: every morning. I didn't even know that until this morning
Speaker 1: when I was so excited about having you are, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what do you take Lines Maine? She's like, yes, for
Speaker 1: the repair and all these other things like you know,
Speaker 1: and for all those young women, those women out there
Speaker 1: that are listening. You know. She accused of me all
Speaker 1: the time of not respecting her mom brain right where
Speaker 1: she's had a couple of kids. Sometimes she doesn't always
Speaker 1: remember certain things. And then her opinion is this helps
Speaker 1: her fight that or going against those things, and can
Speaker 1: you continue to help her heal those things that she's
Speaker 1: been through? So right on again, Jake Plumber, Right on again. Baby.
Speaker 1: Her question that she had, she makes she's making me
Speaker 1: at is that how do you know what's a reputable source,
Speaker 1: a reputable source of where we get our mushrooms forum
Speaker 1: versus what may not be a more reputable source to
Speaker 1: make sure it's all good. I don't know every mushroom
Speaker 1: is created equal. That's a great question. Um, so much
Speaker 1: is still out there with micro remediation, micro filtration, we
Speaker 1: don't know yet, you know, building things out of the mycelium,
Speaker 1: which is showing to be when you can mold it
Speaker 1: into forms or any type of supports, be as strong
Speaker 1: as any other material out there. Um. So the sky
Speaker 1: is the limit here on this. We started a mode
Speaker 1: because we saw what was happening and we thought, let's
Speaker 1: start a brand, and let's do this right, and let's
Speaker 1: have social corporate responsibility. Let's make sure that we're not
Speaker 1: This isn't a capitalist, capitalist play for us. This is
Speaker 1: a cause. This is really a chance to shift the
Speaker 1: shift the needle towards more health and wellness. And so
Speaker 1: it's it's getting that shift. It's changing people's perspective to
Speaker 1: be less fear and more open minded. And Umbo. We
Speaker 1: set out to have one of the best products like
Speaker 1: I was. I was Charlotte's Web. It's one of the
Speaker 1: top line products. I wanted to be able to have
Speaker 1: the same thing in the mushroom industry. Um, there are
Speaker 1: other good products out there. Be sure to look at
Speaker 1: the labels to see if it's organic and also if
Speaker 1: it's fruiting body or if it's my cilium biology when
Speaker 1: you're in college, No, man, like this is the thing.
Speaker 1: Like I've just been in this for the last few years,
Speaker 1: just just absorbing knowledge and being around people and learning stuff.
Speaker 1: But I don't know like one tenth of what Paul
Speaker 1: Stamitz knows. I'd say one fiftieth of what Paul Stamitz knows.
Speaker 1: He is a mycologist. I'm a micro file. I love mushrooms.
Speaker 1: I love fun guy, I love nature, and so I
Speaker 1: think you know, you know, without my cilium, without fun guy,
Speaker 1: that we wouldn't have anything that we're used to having
Speaker 1: out in nature, the trees, the beautiful flowers, um. Everybody
Speaker 1: but benefits from the mycelium underneath us. Yet, the jury
Speaker 1: is still out if eating and taking a mycelium product
Speaker 1: is actually beneficial to us yet, because we're finding that
Speaker 1: some mushrooms have compounds in the fruiting body and that
Speaker 1: that are not that are only that are not contained
Speaker 1: in the mycelium or vice versa. That's into mycelium, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't come out in the fruiting body. UM. So
Speaker 1: for now, what I'd say is if you into an
Speaker 1: apple tree, you wouldn't pull off a leaf or some
Speaker 1: bark and eat it and hope to get some benefit.
Speaker 1: You would pick the apple and you would eat the apple.
Speaker 1: So now as we as we're going again back to
Speaker 1: the research thing. We need to research this. We need
Speaker 1: to find out if my cilium growing on grain, you know,
Speaker 1: is passing on some of the constituents of the grain
Speaker 1: into the mycelium. So if you're grain heavy and you're
Speaker 1: diet already, do you really want to take more grain
Speaker 1: into your system. I'm a fruiting body fan. I like
Speaker 1: full spectrum medicine. I want the whole entire fruiting body
Speaker 1: altogether in my teinksture bar, capsule, whatever. Uh. That's that's
Speaker 1: my theory. And and we're gonna learn more. We're gonna
Speaker 1: learn more every day. They're discovering stuff every day. I
Speaker 1: really want to lead uh into this, you know, this
Speaker 1: next era. M some studies with some former players to
Speaker 1: raise quality of life and then ultimately to see if
Speaker 1: we can reverse you know, the issues with the brain
Speaker 1: that you know that we're all aware of that we're
Speaker 1: gonna face at some point. But trying to extend life,
Speaker 1: and to extend life with with quality of life is
Speaker 1: really the key. And uh, you know if I'm if
Speaker 1: you guys are around when I turn ninety, I'll invite
Speaker 1: you to my party at a trampoline park. I mean
Speaker 1: that's my visio energy, energy all day, energy all day.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, I've said that before, like I
Speaker 1: want to be live well into my hundreds. Oh man,
Speaker 1: you don't want to do that. You'll be in a wheelchair,
Speaker 1: You'll be all decrepit. And I'll tell people, men, shut
Speaker 1: your mouth and take that back. You put that energy,
Speaker 1: and you put that word out there. Words have extreme power,
Speaker 1: as we as we know being on you know, hey
Speaker 1: it's fourth it's the fourth quarter. We got a minute left,
Speaker 1: no time outs. Let's go win this thing, right and
Speaker 1: we all believe and we go win it rather than
Speaker 1: oh god, there's no chance we need a time. Well,
Speaker 1: this isn't going well. Like we believe in the power
Speaker 1: of words because we lived it. And more people, you know,
Speaker 1: start buying into just that that power of word, the
Speaker 1: power of thought, and then the power of nature. You know,
Speaker 1: we're coming into a full, full new perspective here on
Speaker 1: on Really how much we can optimize our human time
Speaker 1: here on planet Earth. Thanks for that answer, dere Jake,
Speaker 1: and as my man Peanut Tilman always like to say,
Speaker 1: we gotta pay some bills, and before we do that,
Speaker 1: we would like to honor Black History Month. In each
Speaker 1: episode this month, we'll highlight an NFL trailblazer, both pasted
Speaker 1: in present in a sixty second tribute. Here's Jets defensive
Speaker 1: end Solomon Thomas telling the story of the first black
Speaker 1: woman to be named a team president in NFL history,
Speaker 1: The Raiders, Sandra Douglas Morgan. I'm proud to introduce to
Speaker 1: you today the president of the Las Vegas Raiders, Sandra
Speaker 1: Douglas Morrigan. On July seven, Sandra Douglas Morrigan make league
Speaker 1: history when the Raiders named her the nfls first ever
Speaker 1: black female president. As we continue to celebrate Black History
Speaker 1: Month across the league, we shared the accomplishments of the
Speaker 1: past and president. Sandra Douglas Morgan is the first African
Speaker 1: American woman to be the president of the NFL team.
Speaker 1: Born and raised in Las Vegas, Morgan was a daughter
Speaker 1: of parents when stilled in her in the importance of education, honesty, kindness,
Speaker 1: and hard work. She would go on to earn degrees
Speaker 1: in political science from the University of Nevada and Reno
Speaker 1: and law from the University of Nevada in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: Described by Raiders owner Mark Davis as a force. We
Speaker 1: reckon with Douglas is a trailblazer and inspiration for current
Speaker 1: African American women and future generations to come. All right, Jake,
Speaker 1: we gotta we'd like to do this thing with all
Speaker 1: of our guests. He's a couple of little quick kidters.
Speaker 1: You just tell this first thing. Come on your brain.
Speaker 1: This is fast, this is furious, and we're coming at
Speaker 1: you right now. You're ready, all right, Who cares if
Speaker 1: you're ready or not, it's coming anyways. What was your
Speaker 1: first welcome to the NFL moment? Oh? Man, uh, that
Speaker 1: veteran stadium on the two yard line. The coaches decided
Speaker 1: to put me into the game for my first live
Speaker 1: NFL action, And I stepped into the huddle and looked
Speaker 1: at the guys and said, let's take this. Let's take this,
Speaker 1: you know what, ninety eight yards And they lit up
Speaker 1: like h and we took at ninety eight yards and scored.
Speaker 1: And that was really my first like welcome to the NFL.
Speaker 1: Moment when they believed in me. And once that happened,
Speaker 1: that belief was strong, and uh, you know, that's really
Speaker 1: all I wanted, was that belief in respect from the guy.
Speaker 1: So that was my first like here I am. And
Speaker 1: in that game, Richard Dent was still playing, he was
Speaker 1: with the Eagles. He spun me around and slammed me
Speaker 1: into the turf on my left shoulder that still kind
Speaker 1: of has a little limitations from that hit. Said take
Speaker 1: that rookie. You know a few other words involved, and
Speaker 1: I jumped up and said, man, you're you're too old
Speaker 1: to be playing. Get your old ass out of the league.
Speaker 1: Because I had to give it back. Man. That was
Speaker 1: the way I had to fight, like, I had to
Speaker 1: show him that I wasn't scared, even though I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's your dead. But I had to
Speaker 1: show him like there's no fear here. You can't stop me,
Speaker 1: you can't you can't break me. And uh yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a real good moment in Pheeling No Less a
Speaker 1: great place to come play games. I love playing in Philly.
Speaker 1: It's the fans. They were amazing. Jake who intercepted your
Speaker 1: last pass? Oh I don't remember, um, because my last
Speaker 1: throw was an interception actually against the Niners. I have
Speaker 1: to look back and see who that was. Um, you
Speaker 1: got all that right. It was against Niner's. It was
Speaker 1: a Walt Harris Final games the sixth season. All right.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is I threw a hundred sixty
Speaker 1: one exceptions in my career and a hundred sixty one touchdown,
Speaker 1: So I figured I came out straight. Even Stephen, you're
Speaker 1: rocking sixteen all across the board too, Bro, I love it. Um.
Speaker 1: I know how much of a family man you are,
Speaker 1: and you love the outdoors so much. I've heard another
Speaker 1: interview you created dandylion fritters from your outside one time.
Speaker 1: I want to know, Bro, you gotta bring some of
Speaker 1: those two a Z. I gotta try those. Those sound awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they are good. And you know most people spray a
Speaker 1: bunch of crazy chemicals on their yard to kill dandy lions,
Speaker 1: and you know, we wonder why we're sick. And I
Speaker 1: just tell people, well, my dandelions get turned into fritters,
Speaker 1: and you can actually just pick a danie lion and
Speaker 1: eat it and there's no harm. They're depending on obviously,
Speaker 1: where it's grown to make sure, you know, my yard
Speaker 1: doesn't have any chemicals in it. I keep it clean
Speaker 1: and organic. During the pandemic. That it was something that
Speaker 1: me and the family got into, was just going out
Speaker 1: and just finding, you know, different things in our yard
Speaker 1: like molow. Molow is the original original plant that they
Speaker 1: used to actually make marshmallows, mollow marshmallows, And so we
Speaker 1: ended up making some mollow out of a natural little
Speaker 1: plant that grew out in our yard. And usually you
Speaker 1: pull them and and compost them. But um, yeah, doing
Speaker 1: that felt really awesome to to go out for its
Speaker 1: form mushrooms, find some while asparagus, do some dandelion fritters,
Speaker 1: and basically eat a meal that was just provided by nature.
Speaker 1: It did something inside my my DNA and my body.
Speaker 1: It felt different to eat like that. And uh, I
Speaker 1: don't do it all the time, but I'm I'm out
Speaker 1: forging still and trying to find more edible things out
Speaker 1: in the forest to be a part of and and
Speaker 1: and to ingest. Of course. All right, last question for
Speaker 1: you here, Jake, uh Mount Rushmore. We asked everyone this question, right,
Speaker 1: you have to have your own personal Mount Rushmore? Who
Speaker 1: would have up there in sports. Is it sports or
Speaker 1: just people? And could be mom, dad, it could be Jesus,
Speaker 1: it could be a mushroom God, it could be it
Speaker 1: just Yeah, that's a question. I put Bob Marley on Rushmore.
Speaker 1: I think that's a definite effect he's had. I mean
Speaker 1: his music, his music is still alive, his children are
Speaker 1: still passing on his message. And what his message was
Speaker 1: is one love. I would say, uh, Muhammad Ali because
Speaker 1: of what he did to fight for his his human rights,
Speaker 1: for civil rights, to stand up and and be himself
Speaker 1: and really to be one of the most authentic, genuine,
Speaker 1: one of a kind athletes that we've ever seen in
Speaker 1: the world. Um, and really be known all around the world.
Speaker 1: You know what an amazing human he was. Albert Albert Hoffman,
Speaker 1: who was the guy who discovered l s D and uh,
Speaker 1: you know a guy who way back, you know, in
Speaker 1: in the early nineteen hundreds and mid nineteen hundreds, was
Speaker 1: was on what we're going through right now, on you
Speaker 1: know what, on investigating you know, the effects psychedelics can
Speaker 1: have on on people and and reprogramming rebooting us back
Speaker 1: to uh, you know, being being one again and connecting
Speaker 1: again and and being okay with the beauty surrounding us
Speaker 1: instead of you know, ignoring what's around us. You know,
Speaker 1: you for you know, being being back in touch with nature,
Speaker 1: back in touch with the community, and with connections and
Speaker 1: humans again. Um, now my fourth one, I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: my mom on Mount Rushmore because you know, without her,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here. And I've learned so much from her,
Speaker 1: and she really started me down this path as the
Speaker 1: young kids. You know, she was very into our diets
Speaker 1: and and uh taught us to be really aware of
Speaker 1: what we put in our bodies. And you know, we
Speaker 1: would take garlican honey if we had a cold, and
Speaker 1: we would put bruge east and our orange juice. And
Speaker 1: like she was way ahead of what's going on now
Speaker 1: just because her mother, my grandma, was a vegetarian and
Speaker 1: really into health, uh and and doing the right thing
Speaker 1: and in the nature and and so my mom definitely, um,
Speaker 1: you know, what she's done and how she's been there
Speaker 1: for me is a definitely amount Rushmore for me. I
Speaker 1: wish grandmother would have met my grandmother because my grandma
Speaker 1: used to make me eat VI's vapor rub. We used
Speaker 1: to have a coach literally it says, do not consume.
Speaker 1: She used to make us eat vapor up. I swear
Speaker 1: to you it was you could have some crazy that'd
Speaker 1: be a crazy podcast to get all the guys and
Speaker 1: like find out what their grandmama's You know, my grandmothers
Speaker 1: gave them for remedies, because there's probably some wild remedies
Speaker 1: out there if we really wanted to go deep, there's
Speaker 1: no doubt. Well, look, man, Jake, dude, you are blessing
Speaker 1: uh for for giving us your time today. We want
Speaker 1: to thank you extremely man. Not only was our huge
Speaker 1: fan of yours as a player, but I'm so much
Speaker 1: more of a fan of you as a man today
Speaker 1: after listening and having this conversation with you, Peanut, Thanks again,
Speaker 1: man forgiving us your time. Brother. I love you guys,
Speaker 1: and thank you. And I want to thank all the
Speaker 1: listeners for tune in. As always, I want to ask
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