WEBVTT - Ep. 241: Render - When the Cat's Away. . .

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Clay nukelemb and.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a production of the bear Grease podcast called

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<v Speaker 2>The Bear Grease Render, where we render down, dive deeper,

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<v Speaker 2>and look behind the scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>presented by f HF Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting

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<v Speaker 2>and fishing gear that's designed to be as rugged as

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<v Speaker 2>the place as we explore.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here we are, ye, welcome to the bear Grease Render.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm your host, Clay Nukeomb No, actually Clay is gone

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<v Speaker 3>and so we have done a hostile takeover of the

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<v Speaker 3>bear Grease. Actually, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the trout

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<v Speaker 3>Grease Render. This episode will be all about fly fishing,

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<v Speaker 3>so buckle in, get ready to enjoy yourselves. It'll be

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<v Speaker 3>like being on a boat ride. It's gonna be awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>Did y'all notice that at the end he said look

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<v Speaker 4>forward to being on the render with everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week he said that false advertising.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah advertising, great, gonna be a lawsuit. Yeah, thanks for

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<v Speaker 3>bringing up. Well, let me just introduce. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>go from my right to the left here because we

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<v Speaker 3>got a new a first time or here we have

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<v Speaker 3>doctor mister Nukelem Welcome.

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<v Speaker 5>So good to be here, so good to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't your first time?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 6>Great?

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<v Speaker 3>We have doctor Baron neukelemb yep here doctor. We have

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<v Speaker 3>mister Brent Reeves. Mister this country life Brent Reeves.

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<v Speaker 6>That could be nurse, call me nurse.

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<v Speaker 5>How Bear earned the doctorate? We'll just go with it.

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<v Speaker 3>And last, but not least, we have miss River Newcomb.

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<v Speaker 3>We are outnumbered by Newcombs today everywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>And you really you missed an important.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's right down on the floor here we got.

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<v Speaker 3>I am. I am hoping that. Uh today we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to have a little bit of sibling rivalry on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>a little like straightening out, like when Bear tells the

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<v Speaker 3>story River will be here.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, that's not yeah, that's everyone. That's everyone's favorite thing

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<v Speaker 5>to listen to. It's your details. Actually it's not. I

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<v Speaker 5>was actually thinking, will they fight because these two I

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<v Speaker 5>don't really. So there's four new kids.

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<v Speaker 3>These are the two middle ones.

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<v Speaker 5>These are these are middle children.

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<v Speaker 7>Middle and best?

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<v Speaker 8>Wait a minute, is it go ahead? Was that for

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<v Speaker 8>both of you? Middle and best? Or is one of the.

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<v Speaker 3>If you guys ever noticed that that when Clay talks

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<v Speaker 3>about the birth order of his kids. He always says,

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<v Speaker 3>my middle daughter, River. Have you noticed that, not my

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<v Speaker 3>youngest daughter, River. I always wondered about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I'm the middle but maybe a counseling session younger.

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<v Speaker 3>Daughter and an older son and a younger son. But

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<v Speaker 3>he always says my middle daughter.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never noticed that either. It would be weird to

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<v Speaker 5>call River young. It's kind of interesting because we had

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<v Speaker 5>two girls and two boys and four kids in five

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<v Speaker 5>and a half years. That was the like Willow was

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<v Speaker 5>five and a half years old when Champ was born.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's not like any of them are massively spaced apart,

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<v Speaker 5>but Willow and River were just really close together. And

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<v Speaker 5>our life, like we moved here where we live now,

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<v Speaker 5>the Newcombe Farm when the girls were babies, and I

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<v Speaker 5>was I was pregnant with bear when we bought this

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<v Speaker 5>piece of land, and and and so there's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>like in the Newcombe family, there's this first five years

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<v Speaker 5>and the girls were apart of both of them, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>about three of those years. And so there's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>like the first era, you know, the prequel to the

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<v Speaker 5>Newcomb Farm, and the girls were part of that. And

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<v Speaker 5>then there was when we all moved out here and

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<v Speaker 5>the boys. The boys came after. And so even though

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<v Speaker 5>they're super close together, it is kind of like River

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<v Speaker 5>and Willow are the oldest kids.

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<v Speaker 3>They're they're collectively the oldest kids. Yeah. Well, the one

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<v Speaker 3>Newcomb who is absent today is mister Clay Newcomb. He

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<v Speaker 3>is currently in.

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<v Speaker 5>Alaska, rained in currently.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, unfortunately, Yeah, he hadn't heard today.

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<v Speaker 4>He said yesterday that it was clear and they were

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<v Speaker 4>they stalked one.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's hunting a mountain goat.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, And yeah, he said he they put a stalk

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<v Speaker 4>on one but didn't get it. He said it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be really tough. But he said that pretty much

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<v Speaker 4>like with the goat costume that he So.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we need to visit this. Yeah, soture.

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<v Speaker 8>This was in we just got I just got home

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<v Speaker 8>from from Bozeman. We had some meetings up there, and

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<v Speaker 8>Clay went to Alaska from Bozeman.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, they we roomed together, and.

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<v Speaker 3>The morning before he pulled this out.

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<v Speaker 8>He walked around the corner of me and Tony Petershom

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<v Speaker 8>was sitting in there talking, we're facing to go eat supper,

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<v Speaker 8>and he walked around the corner and had this on

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<v Speaker 8>his head.

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<v Speaker 3>So about three weeks ago, Clay said, Clay sent me

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<v Speaker 3>a picture of mountain goat and he said, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to make me a mountain goat hat.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, what He's like, I want you to

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<v Speaker 3>make me a mountain goat hat. And so I made

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<v Speaker 3>the mountain goat hat. So it's a white beanie with

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<v Speaker 3>horns and mountain goat ears.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I don't know how you did the sun but.

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<v Speaker 3>And leafy suit and leaf leafy suit and painted at

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<v Speaker 3>white so plain lukem is out wandering the mountains of

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<v Speaker 3>Alaska dressed up in a mountain goat costume. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to call it a costume.

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<v Speaker 6>Anecdotal to the anecdotal to the hat.

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<v Speaker 8>He pulled the white leafy suit out, freshly spray painted

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<v Speaker 8>smell to it. Oh yeah, yeah, Tony and I were

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<v Speaker 8>like sitting in the corner are out behind Walmart, huffing

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<v Speaker 8>paint to a sock. Is what it smelled like. And

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<v Speaker 8>I'm like, when when did you paint that? And it

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<v Speaker 8>was like minutes before he packed. It was like on

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<v Speaker 8>the way on the plane, on the way up right,

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<v Speaker 8>and you've known you've been going to Alaska for how

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<v Speaker 8>many months? But I didn't say that because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 8>my first rodeo, as they say him.

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<v Speaker 3>So he he's in Alaska right now, Yeah, taken over

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<v Speaker 3>the render. We're really hoping he gets a go I

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<v Speaker 3>hope he gets a goat with a hat. I hope

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<v Speaker 3>he can fool him.

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<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, he said, like roughly, it will work like

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<v Speaker 4>two out of ten times a go to.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty percent of the time it works every time.

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<v Speaker 1>So who knows, maybe he'll get one to think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a goat.

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<v Speaker 3>A goat with a bow.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just it's just really different than what I thought

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<v Speaker 5>my life would look like. I'm just gonna be honest,

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<v Speaker 5>like I'm never I never, as a little kid, thought, man,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to grow up and marry a man who

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<v Speaker 5>puts on goat suits and wanders around the woods Like

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<v Speaker 5>that never crossed my mind that that would be a

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<v Speaker 5>part of my life.

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<v Speaker 8>I sent that bitcher to Alexis and he's like, oh

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<v Speaker 8>my gosh, did he lose a bent. That's voluntary.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was his idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So best of luck, Clay Newcomb. We wish you well.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to hear a story about goats?

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<v Speaker 6>I do.

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<v Speaker 8>This made me think of that I was a baby,

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<v Speaker 8>and I don't remember this part, but my grandmother told

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<v Speaker 8>me I was allergic to cow's milk and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 8>drink it for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>So, you know, that's not a thing. Nobody's allergic to

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<v Speaker 3>cow's milk. They just think they are.

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<v Speaker 8>Anyway, my grandmother, the liar that she is, apparently, was

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<v Speaker 8>getting a good deal on goats milk. That's what the

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<v Speaker 8>doctor prescribed me and drink. And she said it was

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<v Speaker 8>canned goats milk and it was the foulst stench of anything.

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<v Speaker 8>And this is a lady who we were. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>we raised chickens. We had two big chicken houses. And

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<v Speaker 8>aroma is putting it mildly. What a chicken. You have

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<v Speaker 8>never been around a chicken house. It smells like everything

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<v Speaker 8>the chicken laid except the egg. It's that times ten thousand.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>So she said I had to drink goats milk, and

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<v Speaker 8>she said she would open it with them with a can.

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<v Speaker 8>Thought they call the church key, you know, you poke

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<v Speaker 8>holes in the can for she said it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Just they call on one side.

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<v Speaker 8>Fast forward fifty something years and a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm down at some friends of mine down in the

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<v Speaker 8>south end of Bradley County on the Slain River, and

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<v Speaker 8>they are living what they call the river stead life.

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<v Speaker 6>They're right there on the river.

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<v Speaker 8>They're raising goats, chickens, rabbits, they're making sausage from wild

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<v Speaker 8>hogs they killed.

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<v Speaker 6>My buddy's a forester. He works from home.

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<v Speaker 8>She's a educational educational consultant that contracts with different school

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<v Speaker 8>districts and stuff. So a lot of the stuff that

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<v Speaker 8>they do they do at home and they live there.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think she told me they figured eighty five

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<v Speaker 8>percent of what they consume they either want to catch

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<v Speaker 8>it or grow it there on their place. And they

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<v Speaker 8>have goats. My only reference to goat's milk is the

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<v Speaker 8>stories from my grandmother. And she said, we went out

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<v Speaker 8>fishing that morning. We caught a bunch of fish. Would

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<v Speaker 8>come back. She said, put some brownies in. They should

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<v Speaker 8>be read. Let's go in and have some brownies and milk.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'm like, you had me, Let's go in and

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<v Speaker 8>eat regardless, Let's go and we get in there. She

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<v Speaker 8>pulls out these big plate of brownies and poors me

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<v Speaker 8>a big cold glass of milk.

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<v Speaker 6>And I took a bite, and I thought boy, this

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<v Speaker 6>is gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 8>And as I'm getting that glass to my lips, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>thinking this came.

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<v Speaker 6>Out of a goat.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sure they came out of a goat, but I

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<v Speaker 8>can't smell it. I don't smell anything. So I took

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<v Speaker 8>a sip and I'm like, I didn't die. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 8>get a bigger drink. I took a drink and it

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<v Speaker 8>tasted like milk, and I said, lee, Is, let's go

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<v Speaker 8>to milk. She said, oh, yeah, from this morning. It

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<v Speaker 8>has been long enough. She gets up at like four

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<v Speaker 8>and right milk pours it filled coffee filter, sets it

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<v Speaker 8>an ice box or refrigerator, and man, I could not

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<v Speaker 8>tell it didn't come from Elsie herself. It was tasted

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<v Speaker 8>exactly like so brownies.

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<v Speaker 3>And so when I was when I when we first

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<v Speaker 3>moved to Arkansas with fourteen r and neighbor had a

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<v Speaker 3>goat dairy and she I think she had like sixty goats.

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<v Speaker 3>She'd milk every day and people would come and I

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<v Speaker 3>remember she gave me. She gave me a gla and

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know what to think, like I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>what to expect. And I took a drink of it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, this is delicious. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>So does that mean the milk you were drinking you

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<v Speaker 1>were a kid was just like it?

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<v Speaker 6>Probably I figured come out of a hog or something.

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<v Speaker 8>Who knows you put a label on anything. But now

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<v Speaker 8>I had a neighbor, a neighbor who is an absolute

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<v Speaker 8>health food nerd. He's probably one hundred and twelve years old.

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<v Speaker 8>He looks like he's forty. Yeah, but he walks up

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<v Speaker 8>and down the street every day. And he asked me

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<v Speaker 8>about goat's milk. I told him the story I told

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<v Speaker 8>y'all about when I was a kid. And he said, well,

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<v Speaker 8>it's better than that. It's better, he said, I'm going

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<v Speaker 8>to bring you something. He brought me a gallon of

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<v Speaker 8>goats milk. But it was so sweet. I couldn't harder

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<v Speaker 8>drink it. It was like drinking really simple syrup.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I said, man, I can't drink it. It's just too sweet.

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<v Speaker 8>And I you know, I like sweet teeth. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 8>drink it. And he told me, and I told him

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<v Speaker 8>the deal about the goat milk smelling and stuff. He said, well,

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<v Speaker 8>it only tastes like that if you shake it up

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<v Speaker 8>and I'm like, okay, so if.

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<v Speaker 6>You're on a level of playing service, I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Already called people liars, said, I'm not I'm just telling you.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just telling you what the man told me.

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<v Speaker 8>But it was the sweet I told him, you can

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<v Speaker 8>take it back, you can put it back in the goat.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know whatever whatever you do with it.

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<v Speaker 8>But the milk I drank at quite a visual at

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<v Speaker 8>Lee and Keith's house, Lee and Keith Brandon down there.

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<v Speaker 6>It was. It tastes just like cow's milk to me.

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<v Speaker 3>To go Lee and Keith, I got some good, healthy goats.

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<v Speaker 5>When we first moved here, I was really nervous that

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<v Speaker 5>we were gonna they were going to annex the house

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<v Speaker 5>in city limits, and I was nervous they wouldn't let

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<v Speaker 5>us keep animals. If they did that, it took years,

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<v Speaker 5>there was no rush, but I was nervous it was

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<v Speaker 5>gonna happen really fast. And so basically the week after

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<v Speaker 5>we bought this land, I went on the Craigslist and

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<v Speaker 5>bought a goat, just one single, so that we could

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<v Speaker 5>be considered. And we got at home and we asked

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<v Speaker 5>the girls. I don't even know how we got the

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<v Speaker 5>goat here. But we asked the girls. The girls were

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<v Speaker 5>two and three, and we said what should we name it?

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<v Speaker 5>And they said, their name's Willow and River, and they

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<v Speaker 5>said we should name it after the one boyfriend that

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<v Speaker 5>they had, which was Josh's son, David.

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<v Speaker 3>And so.

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<v Speaker 5>We had a named David.

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<v Speaker 3>Your dog John was your son Fair.

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<v Speaker 7>And we had the pig names after Uncle Jo.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right. So we had a go named David. And

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<v Speaker 5>that sucker was mean, and he hated women, and he

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<v Speaker 5>hated children, and he hated anyone that had any visible

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<v Speaker 5>weakness whatsoever. You would walk up, I mean he he

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<v Speaker 5>men he was good with unless they had a limp,

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<v Speaker 5>and he would go after him. Women he would the

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<v Speaker 5>second I mean they he was at. He was a

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<v Speaker 5>very mean, aggressive goat and he just smelled awful. And

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<v Speaker 5>then we go to some fans he placed a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of years later. David wasn't well loved. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know if you could tell David the goat. David

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<v Speaker 5>the goat was not well loved, and he actually ran away.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I don't know, he's like probably wandering jumped him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>He just one day he was gone, and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 5>good ridding, and and we could never find aggressives.

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<v Speaker 7>We had roosters and we had got captain.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of aggression, a violence.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true.

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<v Speaker 5>We had these turkeys that were just mean as can be,

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<v Speaker 5>Tom and Albuquerque, and they were they were a big

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<v Speaker 5>name Jeff and a goat named David. These are our

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<v Speaker 5>early new Conformed days. And they got to where they,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they would roost out here Clay wanted. They

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<v Speaker 5>looked wild, you know, but they were domestic turkeys. And

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<v Speaker 5>one of them went to our neighbor house and their grandma.

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<v Speaker 5>They were moving grandma in and she had a cast

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<v Speaker 5>on her hand, and the mean turkey saw that and

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<v Speaker 5>just went after and the neighbors thought they were wild turkeys,

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<v Speaker 5>and so they killed them. And the other neighbors saw

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<v Speaker 5>all this and ran out and said, that's Glay's turkeys.

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<v Speaker 5>Those are pet turkeys. And so they come to our

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<v Speaker 5>house like head in hand, Mary, ashamed of themselves turkeys,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're like, we thought they were wild. We were pomped.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I guess it was turkey season. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know they were we were.

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<v Speaker 7>All pokemon cards. They were like, here, you got to

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<v Speaker 7>pay for it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I wasn't a huge Pokemon fan, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>I just want the feathers, give me the feathers, and

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<v Speaker 5>y'all can you know me? Well, I did want the meat,

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<v Speaker 5>but they did attack their grandma, you know, so I

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<v Speaker 5>felt like we were kind of But I went to

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<v Speaker 5>a fancy restaurant a couple of years later after we

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<v Speaker 5>had David, and they served goat cheese and everyone was

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<v Speaker 5>talking about how great it was and I got I

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<v Speaker 5>put some on my plate and it smelled like David.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And when I took a bite of it, it tasted

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<v Speaker 5>like David smelled. And I was like, I am not

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<v Speaker 5>interested in this business at all.

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<v Speaker 8>She made some cheese down there, it was had no

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<v Speaker 8>odor to it. I mean, these folks are I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>they're not doing this stuff. They're giving lessons on the internet,

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<v Speaker 8>they're not taking them off of there. They but I

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<v Speaker 8>ate cheese. See had jalapeno goat.

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<v Speaker 5>Cheese and it didn't taste like David smell.

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<v Speaker 6>No, And I never smelled David, but it didn't smell.

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<v Speaker 5>Like you smelled David. I mean it's it's it's a

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<v Speaker 5>pretty standard smell, but.

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<v Speaker 6>No, it really wasn't.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I don't know what she's doing down there,

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<v Speaker 8>but I mean it was the only thing between me

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<v Speaker 8>and the goat was a coffee fielder and ice box.

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<v Speaker 6>Or otherwise it was.

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<v Speaker 8>You could have said I got it out of the goat, right,

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<v Speaker 8>but that was it.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never I've never eaten meltain goat, but I am

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit nervous that it's gonna taste like David.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I'm hoping you get the opportunity. Yeah, Bear,

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<v Speaker 3>show us your latest project.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I made the bow. That's what I showed

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<v Speaker 4>the last couple of weeks. This week, I've got the arrow.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is a river cane arrow that I cut down.

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<v Speaker 3>That shaft looks good, very much.

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<v Speaker 4>So I cut down probably forty shafts, and only about

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<v Speaker 4>twelve of them work after drying them, and so this

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<v Speaker 4>one was pretty dry. Well, whenever you put them out

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<v Speaker 4>in the sun to dry, at least the ones I

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<v Speaker 4>cut down.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're too small or if they're I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly what the issue is, but they'll shrivel up and

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<v Speaker 4>then you bend them and some of them will just

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<v Speaker 4>break and then some of them will bend and pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much they're pretty straight right off the bat, but you

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<v Speaker 4>have to like really micro straighten them or else still

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<v Speaker 4>fly weird.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this one point?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you make that stuff point?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a stone point?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>These are turkey feathers from the bushwhack turkey that I

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<v Speaker 4>killed this year. But yeah, this is the second one

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<v Speaker 4>I made, so it's not quite hunting worthy, Like there's

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<v Speaker 4>some imperfections in the the fletchings, but arrows are tough

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<v Speaker 4>beat not yet. I made it like last night. I've

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<v Speaker 4>got some helix in that on the feathers there helix.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, helical. Yeah, there's because you have to use

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<v Speaker 4>all the feathers from the same wing because the feathers

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<v Speaker 4>kind of curve and have like a natural helical to them.

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<v Speaker 1>But have you learn that YouTube?

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<v Speaker 6>He's a doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Yeah, it's fantastic. What's what where'd you get the sinew?

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<v Speaker 1>No sinew in this one?

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<v Speaker 6>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Actually you're like this this is a what I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what size it is, but this is a thread

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<v Speaker 4>I type flies with. I gave this arrow a whip finish. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>very nice, but yeah it's not I don't have any

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<v Speaker 4>real sinew on there.

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<v Speaker 3>But what's holding the stump point on.

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<v Speaker 4>That is pine pitch and charcoal. Charcoal kind of hardens

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<v Speaker 4>it in the pine pitch is kind of just like

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<v Speaker 4>natural glue. But yeah, I've been using on the other

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<v Speaker 4>one I made, I used squirrel and testings that dried

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<v Speaker 4>out and it was actually pretty strong, and use that

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<v Speaker 4>as kind of the cordage. This one I just used.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't have any left.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're you're gearing up for deer season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, deer and bear season. Some hunting a bear this year.

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<v Speaker 4>With the self bow and a stone point and probably

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<v Speaker 4>either a river cane or bamboo arrow. But these are

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<v Speaker 4>some of the points that I've made that I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>probably end up shooting them with. I'm gonna get the

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<v Speaker 4>arrows figured out a little better before I use these.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's so this one's a Clovis, which is what

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<v Speaker 4>they would have used.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeahs site is what that stone is called.

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<v Speaker 3>But just is this a local stone or is this

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<v Speaker 3>a stone you got?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a stone I bought.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really know where to get it, but that

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<v Speaker 4>style of point is what they would have used to

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<v Speaker 4>kill wooly mammoths. Clovis, And so I might want to

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<v Speaker 4>kill a bear, or I might use this one. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't really know what style that is.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's a good looking stone point bear.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that one is probably more effective than that one

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<v Speaker 4>the Clovis, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be cooler to kill one with the Clovis.

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<v Speaker 6>This looks like the ones you see out west.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, sharp, it is sharp.

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<v Speaker 3>How long does it take you to make.

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<v Speaker 6>One of those?

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<v Speaker 4>Probably thirty minutes. Well that's not bad, yeah, but to

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<v Speaker 4>make like.

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<v Speaker 1>This arrow takes like three and a half hours.

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<v Speaker 3>So how many arrows are you gonna have made for

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<v Speaker 3>hunting season?

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<v Speaker 4>As many as I can, but I need at least

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<v Speaker 4>probably five five.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it look like David when he gathered stones.

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<v Speaker 6>What's your yah? Yeah, roc, what's your max range? Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>With carbon arrows? Like fifteen yards right now? I'd like

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<v Speaker 4>to work out to twenty. But just so that shooting

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen yards is easier because with the self bow, everything's way.

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<v Speaker 1>Slower than a compound, Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>And you gotta have heavier arrows because it isn't as

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<v Speaker 4>powerful and you need more penetration. And so like you

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<v Speaker 4>shoot a deer at twenty yards, it's like like the

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<v Speaker 4>one that bounced off. It's like forty yards away by

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<v Speaker 4>the time the arrow gets there. But or yeah, bounces off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well that's awesome. That looks great. Hey, I was

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<v Speaker 3>I was reading about hunting this week and I was

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<v Speaker 3>on the Boon and Crockett website. Yeah, I got a

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<v Speaker 3>little trivia for you guys. Top three states for white tail?

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<v Speaker 3>Who has the most boone and Crockett record deer? Top

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<v Speaker 3>three states? Kansas, bear says, Kansas, Jesas, Kansas, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Non Iowa, Iowa?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Iowa.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet that's number one, Iowa. You think Iowa was

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<v Speaker 3>number one?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Any others? Just three? Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>So I just want to say that that Isaac Neil,

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<v Speaker 3>when I asked him this question, he named all three.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, doctor Neil.

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<v Speaker 3>So number three is Iowa. Iowa has over eleven one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred boone crocket deer. Number two, anybody want to change

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<v Speaker 3>your guests? Hmmm, Delaware definitely rode out of Number two

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<v Speaker 3>is Illinois. Illinois has over thirteen hundred boona Crockett deer.

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<v Speaker 3>But number one, number one is none other than the

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<v Speaker 3>cheese state Wisconsin. Wisconsin has over eighteen hundred boone and

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<v Speaker 3>Crockett deer pretty crazy one hundred yep. I would have

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<v Speaker 3>thought Kansas would have been in there.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I know a guy that a friend of mine,

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<v Speaker 8>Josh Jensen, lives up in Minnesota, the Viking. I called

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<v Speaker 8>him and he makes a yearly pilgrimage to Wisconsin the

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<v Speaker 8>deer hunt over there, and he sent me.

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<v Speaker 6>He sent me pictures for.

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<v Speaker 3>Just I think they've got huge numbers of deer and

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<v Speaker 3>huge deer. Yeah, so anyway, I thought that was pretty interesting. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>did you guys hear about this this guy at Yellowstone?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me see, I've got it.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot the name of the actual guyser.

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<v Speaker 8>It wasn't birtha was it wasn't it a Jeff? Jeff

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<v Speaker 8>to guy that it could have been an old meal

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<v Speaker 8>something else, dumb Yellowstone.

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<v Speaker 3>The the pictures are pretty crazy. It's it's uh it

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<v Speaker 3>was sapphire pool and biscuit bacon, biscuit basin that'd be

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<v Speaker 3>delicious of.

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<v Speaker 1>Bacon.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about two miles from from Old Faithful. It blew up.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it looks like someone dropped a bomb. It

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<v Speaker 3>said it through stones that were hundreds of pounds and

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<v Speaker 3>if you look at the pictures. The walkways are just

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<v Speaker 3>like obliterated. It looks like Vietnam. I mean, just it

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<v Speaker 3>was crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>I took fifty kids over there last year.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you go to that?

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<v Speaker 5>We were really close to that one, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>one group actually went to that one. But I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of what would have happened if they were even

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<v Speaker 5>baking biscuits down there, and.

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<v Speaker 6>It would that's what would come up out of it,

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<v Speaker 6>this biscuits.

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<v Speaker 1>And wouldn't like.

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<v Speaker 5>Nectar.

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<v Speaker 4>Was there like a scientific explanation that we know of

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 4>yet for why it?

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Apparently it builds up pressure every now and then, and

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 3>all those guys ares and it's it's so infrequent that

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<v Speaker 3>I guess they don't worry about the people on the walkways.

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<v Speaker 3>But seems like.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the Little Old Faith will ever do.

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<v Speaker 3>That they say it has in the past.

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<v Speaker 5>Was there a warning? I mean, were there? Surely it

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't just a situation where there was no one there.

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<v Speaker 3>They most most of the people had cleared out, But

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was. I saw video of it. People were like, yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 3>It was for people to get away, but not they

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<v Speaker 3>hadn't like evacuated the area, so they wow, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was. It was it was more active than

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 3>they expected it to be, and I think people people

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<v Speaker 3>got away from it pretty crazy, pretty well crazy any

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<v Speaker 3>hunting exploits lately.

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<v Speaker 1>Bear, I've been hog hunting with the self bow. Basically.

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<v Speaker 4>I had know a guy down here who's got some

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<v Speaker 4>big hog problem on his property and it's been real dry,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's got two old saddler's ponds, just little mud

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<v Speaker 4>holes out in the middle of the woods that are

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<v Speaker 4>just covered with hog sign But I've been going there

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<v Speaker 4>the last week, sitting on those mud holes, and then

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<v Speaker 4>like late afternoon, I'll just start slipping down roads and

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen hogs every time I've went. Actually shot at

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<v Speaker 4>one and missed him. I was sneaking in on this

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<v Speaker 4>road and I just hear a bunch of racket up

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<v Speaker 4>the road and I sneak up there and there's a

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 4>big group of them and I'm filming this for a

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<v Speaker 4>real and I set my camera up on the ground.

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>And this hunt, I didn't have a very good setup.

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<v Speaker 4>I just kind of had like a phone holder, and

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<v Speaker 4>I snuck into like seven yards from this little spotted hog,

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<v Speaker 4>and I look back to make sure my camera's going

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 4>and it had fallen over, and so I sneak back

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.880
<v Speaker 4>over there. I set the camera back up and kind

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<v Speaker 4>of get it situated a little better this time. And

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<v Speaker 4>as I'm sneaking back into where I was, I think

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<v Speaker 4>there was one up above me like that I didn't see,

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<v Speaker 4>and it either saw me or smelled me or something,

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<v Speaker 4>but it just took off and all the other hogs

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 4>took off with it. And this little hog runs out

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<v Speaker 4>to like twenty yards and stops and there's basically like

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<v Speaker 4>a pocket, you know, he's covered in brush, but there's

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<v Speaker 4>a pocket just right over his vitals. And I was like, well,

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 4>if I can get an arrow through that pocket, he's dead.

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 4>If I don't, it's just going to hit a limb

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<v Speaker 4>and miss him.

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<v Speaker 6>They're going to wound him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and so and I can kind of shoot at

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:16.479
<v Speaker 4>twenty yards, but I'm not you know, like I wouldn't

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 4>shoot at like a deer or something, but in base

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.719
<v Speaker 4>of hogs, I'll take a shot at them. And I

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 4>drew back, and right as I committed to the shot,

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 4>the pig starts running and I shoot and I hit

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 4>right in the pocket. But it just at that point

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 4>it was like, yeah, it was right behind him. So

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:38.239
<v Speaker 4>I didn't get that one. But two days ago I

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 4>was out there and just saw a ton of hogs,

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 4>a real big one, big tusks, and there was probably

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 4>a group of like twenty of them, and I snuck

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 4>into about thirty yards from them. They were crossing this

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 4>road and I was just slipping in and I see

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 4>where three big ones cross the road, and I looked

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 4>down the mountain and there's the real big one with

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 4>the tusks coming up that same trail. And so I

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 4>slipped trying to get to where they crossed, and my

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 4>wind wasn't very good.

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>It was just kind of like barely.

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 4>Missing that hog, and so as it would move, I

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 4>would move to kind of try and keep out in

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 4>front of it. But the wind's just not that predictable.

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 4>It kind of shifts. And I got like twenty yards

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 4>from it before it got to the road, and it

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 4>smelled me, and you know, it stuck its head up

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 4>and it kind of blew like a deer, which was weird,

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 4>but it kind of weird. Yeah, it just kind of

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 4>and turned and started walking away. Yeah, had like ten

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 4>piglets with it, and they eventually and I tried to

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 4>kind of follow them, but I just couldn't walk as

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 4>quiet as they could walk fast.

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 6>My uncle killed this one just now even before.

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 8>His hog, Yeah, it eased up into his or has

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 8>been rooting up out in his pasture where his horses are.

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 8>I mean that that filled up the bucket on that

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 8>track right there.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that.

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<v Speaker 6>Large yeah river.

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever killed a hog? I did.

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 5>I killed a hog when I was twelve with what.

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 3>With dogs when you were twelve?

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 5>He's wild girl, teenage girl like out there with a knife,

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 5>spear and.

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<v Speaker 3>Pigs making nervous No, I was.

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 7>I didn't think I was going to get to kill it.

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 7>Me and Shepherd were like left behind, and I put

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 7>Sheppard on my back because we couldn't keep up and

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 7>we were running through like bamboo.

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 1>It was so hard.

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 5>And I got there and Dad was like oh.

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 3>And I was just like okay, without hesitation, you had

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 3>to quick.

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<v Speaker 7>There was the dogs were yeah. He was like oh

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 7>quick and I ran. He was in like a little ditch,

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 7>so it was an easy spot to get.

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh, girshocker knife.

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<v Speaker 6>The first time I met.

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<v Speaker 8>Clay was the first time to be video and and

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 8>on a hall hunt one hundred. I mean a bear

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 8>hunt one hundred years ago, and River was probably nine

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 8>or ten. And we went up to this this one

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 8>place where we could call home from in the mountains

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 8>up there, pretty scenic view there, and I was calling home,

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 8>checking on Alexis, and Bailey was just a little baby

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 8>back then. Rivers off in front of this wall where

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 8>this walkway is, where this view is, and she's just

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 8>running around all over the place.

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 6>Like a monkey. Everywhere.

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 8>Her shepherd was there, Bear John was there. They're just

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 8>everywhere like squirrels turned loose. And I'm talking the phone,

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 8>I'm looking down there. I'm like, dang, it's some broken

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 8>beer bottles down there. Look, and then I see River

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 8>going right through them, probably barefoot as a duck.

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 6>Back here, back to there. I'm like, I gotta go,

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 6>I gotta get this kid out of this glass.

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 8>River, get up out of there. And my, oh no,

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 8>she was stepping all through it. No, no problem.

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 5>Was barefoot all the time. I mean we it was.

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 5>It was Actually I was the principal at her school,

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 5>and the teacher's parent teacher conference would come around, and

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 5>one of the issues was we just can't ever find

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 5>her shoes. She takes off when she gets to school,

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 5>and we just need her to keep her shoes on.

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm not kidding, And it was she was in her feet.

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 5>Can I tell about your feet? Yeah, they got they

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 5>developed like a big space in between them.

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 7>If you walk on cold She to me this, if

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 7>you walk on cold floors long enough, your toel.

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 1>That's just what your feet do naturally together.

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 5>Now, right, because you wear shoes.

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 3>You're back to normal.

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, normal is what she was doing exactly. Well,

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the cameras can see, but mister.

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 6>Over here shoes at home.

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 8>But I'm just saying I do. I don't walk through

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 8>glass with them bare feet.

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 5>We tried not to let her walk through glass either,

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 5>just in case anyone's listening that wants to take her

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 5>kids away.

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 3>One of the reasons that we have Miss River Nukeom

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 3>on the podcast today is because of the topic of

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 3>the Bear Grease podcasts.

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 5>Is the Buffalo National.

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 3>Buffalo National River, which.

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 5>She is a little bit named after that.

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, tell us about that. So Clay and.

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 5>I we had our kids when we were young. We

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 5>were in college and we would literally take our willow.

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 5>We would meet at the parking lot of the university

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 5>and we'd swap the car that had the car seat,

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 5>and I would take her home and he would go

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 5>to classes and then he'd go work at a grocery store.

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 5>And the year that I was pregnant with Willow or

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 5>with River, he got a new job and that job

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 5>had weekends off, and we never had weekends off before,

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 5>and so he had we off. So on the weekends

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 5>after church, we'd get in this cheap Cherokee and we'd

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 5>go to the Buffalo River almost every single day that summer.

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 5>The very first, uh, the first my first trimester of pregnancy,

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 5>we went and hike twks Mill Crag because it snowed,

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:15.760
<v Speaker 5>and we took Willow out there.

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 3>Which is if you've not been Arkansas, that's definitely played

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:22.359
<v Speaker 3>that hawk unbelievable.

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And that was my first time to ever go

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.280
<v Speaker 5>and I was I just remember I have a picture

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 5>of Willow all wrapped up because it was snowing outside

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 5>and we put her in a backpack, and I was

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 5>pregnant with River, and that was my first time to

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 5>ever go to That was I think my first time

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 5>to ever go to the Buffalo National River. And then

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 5>after that, we just we took advantage of every every

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 5>Sunday after church we'd go and we were trying to

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 5>figure out what to name her, because we had no

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 5>intention of having a theme, right, and it wasn't even

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 5>until we named Willow. Willow we named her that for

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 5>because of the meaning of the name. But then people

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 5>were like, oh, and your husband's name is Clay and

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 5>your name is Misty, so kind of an earthy theme,

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 5>So like Clay, Missy Willow and Amanda, I mean, I

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 5>don't know, like it just didn't seem like you kind

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 5>of had to be a little bit more thoughtful about.

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 5>So we kept trying to figure out what to name her,

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 5>and you know, we had kind of some pictures in

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 5>our head of and just feelings about what what this

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 5>this one would be like. And we were going out

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.479
<v Speaker 5>to the river and I remember one day we were

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 5>at church and I had written a name in my

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 5>journal and I just thought it was a little bit

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 5>too wild. And we were at church and Clay looked

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 5>at me, I know, he was thinking about going to

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 5>the river afterwards, and he wrote the exact same name

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.359
<v Speaker 5>down and I was like, I've got that name written down,

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 5>and that's what we named her River River Precious and

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, it was inspired by the Buffalo National River.

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:51.839
<v Speaker 5>We loved that place. We loved we loved it, and

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:56.320
<v Speaker 5>now we know that our our joy came at a cost.

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.359
<v Speaker 6>That's right, And there was most things.

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Tell us here to somebody telling me your impression about

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 3>the about the podcast, it's kind of heavy.

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it is. It's it's I'm really conflicted because of

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 5>what I just shared. You know, I mean, we have

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.800
<v Speaker 5>we we love our family kind of made a commitment.

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 5>I was one of those people that said I want

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:18.240
<v Speaker 5>to go to every National park where the kids and

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 5>we drug you guys along, and so instead of Christmas presents,

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 5>every Christmas we would take the kids to.

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Get in the car and make regardless of what the

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:29.760
<v Speaker 3>weather was, we take often shoot.

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 5>And I remember going to Utah and the guy talking

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 5>about the land. I remember just being at a gas

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 5>station and we were we told him what we were

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 5>doing there, and he just kind of started talking about,

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 5>well this, you know, glad you are doing that this land.

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 5>And he started telling us that this land was taken

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 5>and that they're taking more land and uh they we

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 5>didn't understand what he was saying, right, And now I

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.839
<v Speaker 5>kind of want to go back and research that because

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 5>I'm wondering if it's not a similar.

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Grandpa's that's it, but it is.

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 5>I felt very conflicted about it and just kind of

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:11.399
<v Speaker 5>really realizing the the cost that these things have. It's

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 5>it's something that I mean, I have my little public

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 5>land owner shirts and I'm sure I tell I take

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 5>kids out in national parks all the time, not just

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 5>my own kids, but now other people's kids. Do you

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 5>know at the school I work at? Because I just

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 5>think this is this is one of the greatest things

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:30.439
<v Speaker 5>that that we have.

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>This is our land, and you think about the.

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.760
<v Speaker 8>It is sad, man, it is absolutely a sad story.

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 8>It's a it's a wonderful way that America looks at

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 8>conservation of parks and places, but you never hear the

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 8>tale the cost of it. It's like, man, we're letting

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 8>the prisons are over crowded. We need more prisons. You

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 8>want more prisons, I absolutely do. We're gonna put one

0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 8>in your house, your town, not here, you know, it

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:03.760
<v Speaker 8>needs to be somewhere else. And you have such strong

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 8>feelings about that. And I listened to that stuff. I

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 8>listened to mister Thelines, and I knew the story of

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.959
<v Speaker 8>Granny Henderson, which will be more dealt into the next

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 8>part of it.

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 6>I was very familiar with her.

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 8>I wasn't mister Thelions, but I had heard that Merle Haggartson.

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 8>But you think about that and you put yourself in

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 8>their place, you know, And I think about, like on

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 8>all the stories and stuff that I tell, it's all

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 8>connected to place and where I grew up that belonged

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 8>to our family, you know, as they stuck dur And says,

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:39.839
<v Speaker 8>it's not ours, it's just.

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 6>Really our turn.

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 8>But in our turn, we had this special place at

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 8>the river bottoms of the Slane River, which you know,

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 8>it would be terrible to have thought about them coming

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 8>in and moving my grandparents out of there, forcibly removing

0:38:56.560 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 8>them from some place. And that podcast was three minutes

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 8>into it when I was thinking, yeah, yeah, not not

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 8>only did we do that to the folks in the

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 8>Buffalo River, we did that to the natives years before then.

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:14.400
<v Speaker 8>You know, So who in turn did it do whoever

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 8>else had it before they got there? Yeah, you know,

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 8>so it's just a long line of egregious behavior.

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but man.

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 3>It's so I'm with Misty. I've been you know, I've

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:29.959
<v Speaker 3>I've talked with Clay a lot about this podcast while

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 3>he's been working on it, and it's such a there's

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 3>such a turmoil inside of me because I value It's

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 3>almost like I feel this sense of ownership of it

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 3>myself now, but it's really it wasn't mine to begin with, right,

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:49.879
<v Speaker 3>and uh, you know, I think I think there I don't.

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if there's a right answer. You know,

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 3>there's there's places that we've visited, like you know, if

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 3>you go up into into southern Missouri, there's Elk River

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 3>there and it's absolutely beautiful river, free flowing river, but

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 3>it's just like you got these bars on the river,

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 3>you got people partying down the river all the time,

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 3>and it's just it's overrun with with just commercialism. And

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 3>I think, man, what I have wanted the Buffalo River

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 3>to to turn into that? Absolutely not, but it actually

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 3>might have exactly exactly, And I think that was the

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 3>part of the concern. You know, we can't there's a

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:30.879
<v Speaker 3>lot of should have, would have, could a or speculating

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 3>on what what could have happened. But I'm I mean,

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 3>at the same time, I'm like, man, I'm grateful that

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 3>I can go down to the Buffalo and I've got this,

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 3>for the most part, pristine river that is beautiful. I

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 3>can hike Goats Bluff and it's absolutely breathtaking. It's it's it.

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Like Clay said in the podcast, it's it's the crown

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 3>jewel of Arkansas.

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 8>We also have the aspect of people's enjoyment is different.

0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:01.839
<v Speaker 8>I love and my my friend buddy of mine, Michael Mechs,

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 8>and I used to camp up in a wildlife management

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 8>area along to Buffalo and we for twenty years in

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:09.760
<v Speaker 8>every spring, that's where we started.

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:10.839
<v Speaker 6>Turkey season was up there.

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 8>We got a lot of turkeys and I think about

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 8>that place and I think about what a great place

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 8>to kill a turkey. And there are some other folks

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 8>that have access to them, like, oh my gosh, I

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 8>can't believe those people are killing turkeys up there, But

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:26.319
<v Speaker 8>they they're enjoying that same stretch of property. So your

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 8>interpretation of it is really, you know, to each individual.

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 8>You know, people like us that would enjoy harvesting game

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 8>from the land, and the other folks that also have

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 8>access and like being there, would think, oh, that's a

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 8>terrible thing to do. Don't kill those animals. You can

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:45.720
<v Speaker 8>go buy an animal, a dead animal at the store,

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.279
<v Speaker 8>and so a lot of people have a lot of

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 8>different ways, but it's all connected to that one beautiful

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 8>place up there. And I had never thought about the

0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 8>differences really of how people perceive things, because forever, growing up,

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 8>I thought everybody grew up like I did, you know, yeah, right, so,

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 8>but people look a look at the same place, have

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 8>a familiarity with the place, and then look at it

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 8>in interacting with it in two different ways or a

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 8>lot of different ways.

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Really, I think as I was thinking about it, I

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 3>think the thing that we have to recognize is that

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 3>regardless of whether the land was taken around, these people

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 3>made a sacrifice. It's a sacrifice that we benefit from.

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 3>And unfortunately the sacrifice was forced on them, you know,

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 3>but I think, you know, there's not anything we can

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 3>do about it now except say thank you, you know,

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:47.320
<v Speaker 3>thanks to the Thelions family, thanks to these two thousand

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:49.760
<v Speaker 3>families up and down one hundred and fifty six miles

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 3>of river that that had to make that decision. And

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's interesting because I, you know, I didn't

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 3>grow up in one place. You know, we we moved

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 3>a lot I don't have a history that's tied to

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 3>a place or a land. You know, all my all

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 3>my my families from up north, up in Michigan, and

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 3>uh and so I think, you know, when I moved

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 3>to Arkansas, I felt like this is home to me.

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:22.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, I felt this immediate connection to the Ozarks

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 3>and uh and I you know, I've talked about to

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 3>some friends about the adoptive nature of the Ozarks, how

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.439
<v Speaker 3>it really draws you in and makes you a part

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:34.719
<v Speaker 3>of it. And I think about that for the for

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 3>the Buffalo River, and uh. You know, I appreciate the

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 3>fact that willingly or unwillingly, that that these families have

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 3>have made the sacrifice for me to find a new home.

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 9>You know, yeah, River, what do you think?

0:43:59.040 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 7>I agree is what Mom said, that these National parks

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 7>have been such a big part of our lives. And

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 7>we've gone all over all over the country going to

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 7>different National parks, and the narrative around it, and the

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:12.279
<v Speaker 7>narrative that I heard growing up was that this was

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:15.320
<v Speaker 7>like the preservation of American land. This is our land.

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:18.240
<v Speaker 7>And you hear about like Theodore Roosevelt when he started

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 7>the National Park System, and that's the narrative that I

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 7>was taught in school and that that I've experienced, and

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:26.280
<v Speaker 7>I never I never even thought about about the people

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 7>that lived there. And so then the other thing I

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 7>was thinking about is how do you compensate people for that?

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.359
<v Speaker 7>If somebody came and to take the house that Dad

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 7>built when we were little kids, tue no amount of

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 7>money you could give me that would be worth that,

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 7>And so I just can't imagine if you had generations

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 7>and generations, and so it's interesting, it's interesting to hear

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 7>that side of the story.

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 1>And just so there's two truths, right.

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 7>And not even sides, But there's a truth that we

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:59.000
<v Speaker 7>love this land and it does feel like mine and

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 7>it's part of our lives in our history now. But

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 7>then there's the truth that it was stolen.

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 8>And hard it's hard to one hundred percent celebrate the

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 8>acquisition of the land without mourning the laws of yeah family.

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, you know. In my conversations with Clay, Clay really

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 3>felt a sense of being a steward of the story

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 3>of the of the people from from the landowners. He

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 3>really wanted to just portray what they've done in a

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 3>in a really honest way without without you know, celebrating

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 3>the public lands without recognizing their story. And I think

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 3>that's one of the key things that we can do

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 3>now is just honor, honor them and to tell the

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 3>story so that people are aware.

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 8>So yeah, because you can't. I mean, there's there's no

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:58.720
<v Speaker 8>change in it. It is what it is. What happened happened,

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 8>And the only disser of us we would do is

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 8>to not talk about those folks and what they did

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 8>and went through.

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think that that's the I think that's one

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 5>of the values of Bear Grease and and things like

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 5>it is it tells. It's a it's it's a storytelling platform,

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 5>and that's that's what it is. And and it allowed this

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 5>side to be heard, this side that a lot of

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:21.400
<v Speaker 5>people don't know. It allowed that to be heard. And uh,

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:25.479
<v Speaker 5>and you know, there's well we'll continue to be told.

0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:26.719
<v Speaker 5>There's more coming up.

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 3>What are your thoughts.

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 1>We've got a couple of points.

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Because Tess has got some thoughts to ye.

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 6>If I had thumbs, I let myself out. Well.

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 4>So I was on that meal ride with Willard the

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:49.279
<v Speaker 4>lines going through there, and it was pretty wild. It

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 4>was exactly how my dad described it on the podcast.

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 4>It was like seeing like a lost civilization, you know,

0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 4>like you'd go you know, like we'd be online trails

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 4>that like people would hike, like real common trails, and

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:07.359
<v Speaker 4>then they just jut off and we'd go two hundred

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:09.319
<v Speaker 4>yards off the trail and there'd be like this like

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 4>perfectly intact barn, but it just had vines growing on

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 4>it and trees were over it.

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 1>And even a lot of places that like.

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 4>You just go to and it would look just like

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 4>a cedar thicket or something they would you know, that

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.400
<v Speaker 4>was like an old field. And it was interesting to

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:30.279
<v Speaker 4>see that because then I kind of think about like

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 4>the places that I hunt where I have heard about

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 4>the people that you know, either got their land bought

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:40.359
<v Speaker 4>out or taken from them, and it's just like these

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:43.399
<v Speaker 4>cedar thickets with houses in them, and it's just like, oh,

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.360
<v Speaker 4>that used to be a field. And so it was

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 4>pretty crazy to do that, and to go up to

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 4>Willardvillne's old home place and seeing the foundation that they

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 4>tore down and that old cellar. It was just kind

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.440
<v Speaker 4>of crazy because it was like usually whenever I go

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 4>to the Buffalo River, you know, like if you're going

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.880
<v Speaker 4>like on like the trails and looking at the bluffs

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 4>and stuff like you're kind of a spectator of it.

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:10.880
<v Speaker 4>But whenever we were actually there with like the locals

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 4>who have and you know now they lived like just

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 4>outside the park, right, it was it was like it

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 4>was just a different perspective on the Buffalo River because

0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 4>it was just like people that actually live there and

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:26.439
<v Speaker 4>have lived there and Willardville lines, you know, he lived

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:30.360
<v Speaker 4>there until he was like I can't remember, but until

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:33.719
<v Speaker 4>he was a you know, I think he was ten.

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 4>But it was just it was a unique perspective just

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 4>because they would that was like it would be like

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 4>coming back to this house that I've lived at my

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:48.279
<v Speaker 4>whole life, but just seventy years later and everything's torn

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 4>down because they tore his house down, right, Like there

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 4>was just it was just an old rock foundation. There's

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 4>still a smokehouse and like a cellar, but it was

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 4>just kind of I would just have to imagine that

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<v Speaker 4>would be pretty crazy, like just to actually experience that.

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 4>But what else was crazy is like he took us

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<v Speaker 4>over to like the schoolhouse, and you know they told

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 4>us about how like this kid, thirteen year old kid

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<v Speaker 4>burned the schoolhouse down like two times and then they

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:18.080
<v Speaker 4>built it down by the river and then the river

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 4>washed it away. But like you see like the foundations

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:25.640
<v Speaker 4>of the old schoolhouse and we actually walked like he

0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 4>took us on his route.

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 1>To school every day.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh really, And I mean he literally had to cross

0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 4>the Buffalo River every single day to get to school

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 4>and then go up one of those big mountains, go

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 4>over it down on to the other side, and he'd

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 4>be at the school. But it was three miles, like

0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 4>it was literally the three mile walk to school, and

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 4>if the river was high, they'd take horses or float.

0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:50.879
<v Speaker 6>Or if he saw smoke, he turned around and go back. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he said he set it on fire because

0:49:54.920 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 4>he didn't want to go to school. Same but identify

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 4>with Yeah, and uh, it was kind of My dad

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<v Speaker 4>asked Willard if they ever like really recognized, like if

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 4>they ever really looked at the land as like for

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 4>that for its natural beauty, that we would all look

0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 4>at it, you know, through that perspective of you know,

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 4>there's these big bluffs in it's this incredible place. And

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:24.880
<v Speaker 4>I think he was talking particularly about the waterfall.

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 1>What's the waterfall called on foot?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he said they used to he said him and

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 4>his dad would go ride mules up there, and they

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 4>always just thought it's just the waterfall.

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 1>They never really thought much of it.

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 4>They just viewed the land more as like a just

0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.359
<v Speaker 4>like a provider almost.

0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Because they, you know, a resource.

0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And it was kind of interesting to see that

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:52.680
<v Speaker 4>perspective because like, whenever I walk around just the places

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 4>around here, the woods that I mosey around in, I

0:50:57.200 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 4>never really look to it as like, I mean, I

0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:06.440
<v Speaker 4>do recognize that it is like an incredible place, and

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:09.600
<v Speaker 4>it's like just really anytime you're in the woods, like

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:16.359
<v Speaker 4>just something that's untouched is always pretty incredible. But it

0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 4>kind of shifted my perspective a little bit on the

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 4>way that I would look at the places that I

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 4>use as my resource, you know, like the places that

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:29.440
<v Speaker 4>I hunt. It's like if that was and it very

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:32.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, like it's really is like the plate the

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 4>ozarks are just an incredible place with big rocks and

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:41.440
<v Speaker 4>trees and overlooks, and it's like, I don't know, it

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 4>was just kind of cool to see them the way

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:46.279
<v Speaker 4>that they looked at that. And now he said his

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 4>dad never looked at it that way. His dad always

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 4>just looked at it as is the land we farm,

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 4>this is how we live. And he said once they

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<v Speaker 4>kind of started to you know, once they made it

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:01.160
<v Speaker 4>a park, then he said that he you know, mister

0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:05.520
<v Speaker 4>Willard could kind of he started seeing it as this

0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:08.799
<v Speaker 4>beautiful place. But he's even still like you could tell

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:11.799
<v Speaker 4>his perspective was way different than ours because he was

0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 4>actually a part of it.

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:14.040
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't a spectator.

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:16.239
<v Speaker 6>And you're so familiar with it too. I mean, it's

0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:17.880
<v Speaker 6>something he looked at it every day.

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:21.759
<v Speaker 8>You see a bright shiny object once a month, you're like,

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:23.720
<v Speaker 8>oh wow, yeah, that guess my intention.

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 6>You look at it every day. It's just something you

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:27.160
<v Speaker 6>walk by.

0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:30.799
<v Speaker 5>Yep, you know, it's interesting. I wonder how much of

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 5>that is also a generational dynamic. I think I just

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:43.440
<v Speaker 5>think about even your your parents. I think, God help us.

0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:47.000
<v Speaker 5>But I think about all the all the effort that's

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:49.279
<v Speaker 5>gone into making sure you do appreciate.

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, the.

0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 5>Little I mean I get nighttime, when we'd get when

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 5>we'd come home from nine events, Clay would stop the

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:57.400
<v Speaker 5>kids going in the house and just say, guys, look up.

0:52:57.520 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 5>Not everyone gets to see stars stars like this because

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 5>it there's not a lot of lights out here and

0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:04.560
<v Speaker 5>you can really see it, and I just think, I

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:07.960
<v Speaker 5>wonder how much of that, Yeah, it is as a

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:11.240
<v Speaker 5>result of what happened there and kind of being able

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 5>to see it through everyone else's eyes kind of creates

0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:16.840
<v Speaker 5>a shift. And how much of that is a generational shift,

0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 5>even from Willard and his dad to the subsequent generation.

0:53:20.320 --> 0:53:22.200
<v Speaker 8>When you're sitting on the front porch and looking down

0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:24.759
<v Speaker 8>the hill at the beautiful stream down there, you think, man,

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:27.160
<v Speaker 8>that's pretty. But when you get down to the bottom

0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 8>and you're toting two buckets of water back up, Yeah, exactly.

0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:32.320
<v Speaker 6>God, I wish we lived so yeah, exactly.

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 8>So perspective is relevant, I guess to where you're standing

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:37.719
<v Speaker 8>a lot of it.

0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 6>Man.

0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 3>How about Brooks b Loven's, man, he has a great

0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 3>way of putting things in perspective. I was with play

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:45.799
<v Speaker 3>when you did that, when you did that interview, and

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:48.200
<v Speaker 3>it was kind of like a side note where he

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:50.960
<v Speaker 3>talked about his grandparents being there. His grandparents lived in

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:55.840
<v Speaker 3>the land that is now Norfolk Lake, and the story

0:53:55.960 --> 0:54:00.360
<v Speaker 3>of them toting off his great grandparents. I thought it

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 3>was funny. It's like I just picture them playing, but

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:08.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's really sad and and you know,

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:10.440
<v Speaker 3>I think Clay mentions it in the podcast. It's like

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:16.800
<v Speaker 3>it's like, you know, yeah, they they did take the land,

0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:21.279
<v Speaker 3>they did turn it into a park, but it could

0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:26.239
<v Speaker 3>be underwater, you know what I mean, and never geta falls.

0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 5>Exactly where there's just like merchants everywhere. And I mean

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:32.000
<v Speaker 5>that was that's why they created the National Park System

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 5>is they didn't want to they didn't want it to

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:36.759
<v Speaker 5>be commercialized, beautiful places like that to be commercialized, like

0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:37.560
<v Speaker 5>Niagara Falls was.

0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, there's a place out and that we used to

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:44.400
<v Speaker 8>go to and in uh Edistowe Island, South Carolina is

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:48.319
<v Speaker 8>a place that we would vacation in the summertime and

0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 8>that there's there's no city water there. If you the

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:55.480
<v Speaker 8>potable water that you get to drink and cook with,

0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:57.440
<v Speaker 8>you have to go to the center of town and

0:54:57.480 --> 0:54:59.799
<v Speaker 8>they have a big well we used to call them

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 8>water buffalo is in the service. But it's a big

0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:05.319
<v Speaker 8>tank with different with spigots in it that you get

0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:08.759
<v Speaker 8>city water out of. And they won't put any kind

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:12.000
<v Speaker 8>of commercial watering system there to keep that kind of

0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:14.400
<v Speaker 8>stuff from happening. There's like one grocery store. It's a

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:18.080
<v Speaker 8>resort place. The people that beach houses and homes there

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:21.680
<v Speaker 8>that they enjoy, but they keep it from there's no motels,

0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 8>no condominiums, no stuff like that to keep down that

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:31.399
<v Speaker 8>footprint so small that people are coming in they want

0:55:31.440 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 8>to come in and enjoy, yet not enjoy the motels

0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 8>and hotels arcades and there's nothing like that, And so there's.

0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:41.719
<v Speaker 3>A little bit of a you know, there always is

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:44.080
<v Speaker 3>a trade off. There always is a trade off, you know.

0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:47.720
<v Speaker 3>I think I think, you know, we've got these lands

0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:50.960
<v Speaker 3>that are underwater now. Beaver Lake and Arkansas has has

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:55.160
<v Speaker 3>four I think four big lakes, Bullshoals, Beaver Wash, Taw,

0:55:55.440 --> 0:56:00.359
<v Speaker 3>the Gray, the Gray, and uh, you know, that's all

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:02.919
<v Speaker 3>land that will probably never see again. At the same time,

0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:06.719
<v Speaker 3>it's like I'm a trout fly fishing guide to make

0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:09.320
<v Speaker 3>part of my living. I make part of my living

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:11.040
<v Speaker 3>under that damn you know.

0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:11.399
<v Speaker 9>What I mean.

0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:15.920
<v Speaker 3>It's like, yeah, I mean, there's always always a trade off,

0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:17.759
<v Speaker 3>and I think I think one of the biggest things

0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 3>we can do is just recognize it and just recognize it.

0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to, uh, I wanted to read an email

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:32.320
<v Speaker 3>I got from a listener really great. I think, well,

0:56:32.320 --> 0:56:40.040
<v Speaker 3>written email. He he is a road engineer and uh,

0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 3>his name is Nash. I don't know where he's from.

0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 3>I didn't say, but he said, uh, he said, hey, Clay,

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 3>loved the episode on the Buffalo River. I'm a roadway engineer.

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:57.800
<v Speaker 3>In my field, we constantly have to consider the pros

0:56:57.840 --> 0:57:00.440
<v Speaker 3>and cons of the roadways and intersections that we design.

0:57:01.000 --> 0:57:03.359
<v Speaker 3>At times, we do have to look at the displacement

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 3>of businesses or family homes. We have to decide whether

0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:09.360
<v Speaker 3>one home or business is worth preserving over the efficiency

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:12.240
<v Speaker 3>of travel through an area. This is not an easy

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:14.799
<v Speaker 3>decision to come to, and it can be easy for

0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:17.240
<v Speaker 3>the outside. From the outside to look in and say,

0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:21.240
<v Speaker 3>why is this road so important? And as roadway engineers,

0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 3>it's our job to explain it. Every project has its

0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 3>own specifics. But take for instance, the interstate system we've

0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:29.440
<v Speaker 3>built in this country. Now, this project was way before

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 3>my time, as I'm only twenty four, but could you

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 3>imagine the time it would take to get good ship

0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:35.840
<v Speaker 3>across the country without the interstate system, and with this

0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 3>time would also come huge price increases. It would be

0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:42.280
<v Speaker 3>easy to see how much more expensive going to the

0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:44.760
<v Speaker 3>grocery store would be for every American. The interstate system

0:57:44.840 --> 0:57:48.840
<v Speaker 3>undoubtedly displaced many Americans and cost billions of dollars in

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:50.720
<v Speaker 3>tax payer money, but it's done so much good for

0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:53.920
<v Speaker 3>the American people personally. When designing a project, I always

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:56.480
<v Speaker 3>look at the project from every angle and alternative I

0:57:56.520 --> 0:57:58.840
<v Speaker 3>can before deciding to displace a business or home. But

0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 3>sometimes why the cost and benefits, the greater good ends

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:05.360
<v Speaker 3>up being to displace. A few years ago, I worked

0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:07.920
<v Speaker 3>on a state project that split a large family property

0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:10.479
<v Speaker 3>directly in half. The poor lady that owned the land

0:58:10.880 --> 0:58:12.960
<v Speaker 3>was so upset with the project and gave the construction

0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:15.560
<v Speaker 3>workers and inspectors myself included a hard time when the

0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 3>project was being constructed. The state attempted multiple times to

0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:20.760
<v Speaker 3>have conversations with her to design the project in a

0:58:20.760 --> 0:58:22.880
<v Speaker 3>way that would satisfy her, but she would refuse to

0:58:23.160 --> 0:58:26.720
<v Speaker 3>cooperate negotiations, and eventually the state would use eminent domain.

0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:29.000
<v Speaker 3>It was such a sad story, but the project was

0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 3>has reduced the congestion in multiple nearby towns and has

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:35.960
<v Speaker 3>shortened the time that the workman has to get home

0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:38.000
<v Speaker 3>to his family after long day of work. I love

0:58:38.040 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 3>the work that I do and hope to make the

0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:42.240
<v Speaker 3>best judgment, calls to help the best, to help the

0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 3>communities as a whole. But it's always a difficult decision

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 3>to take away a home land or business places. I

0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:50.720
<v Speaker 3>just think, you know, it's a tough position to be in.

0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:52.840
<v Speaker 6>You know, somebody's got to do the job.

0:58:53.000 --> 0:58:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm glad it's not again, I'm glad it's not me.

0:58:56.400 --> 0:59:01.360
<v Speaker 5>Real I thought the comments on the podcast really if

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:03.200
<v Speaker 5>you look on Instagram when Clay posted, I just kind

0:59:03.200 --> 0:59:05.800
<v Speaker 5>of wanted to see if people would say things like that,

0:59:06.080 --> 0:59:09.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, that's a good I hadn't seen that email.

0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:12.040
<v Speaker 5>That's a good email, that's a good It's a different perspective.

0:59:12.480 --> 0:59:15.640
<v Speaker 5>What it seems like is that people are saying, overwhelmingly,

0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:18.320
<v Speaker 5>we were caught up in this this you know, this

0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:20.880
<v Speaker 5>happened to my grandparents, This happened to and and a

0:59:20.880 --> 0:59:23.960
<v Speaker 5>lot of people across the US have that story and

0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 5>and so yeah, it's these are tough trade offs, and

0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:31.200
<v Speaker 5>I think it's it's meaningful to people to be able

0:59:31.240 --> 0:59:36.520
<v Speaker 5>to let their story be told unfettered by the context.

0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I really I'm looking forward to this next next podcast

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:42.280
<v Speaker 3>because I think it's going to be pretty pretty revealing

0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:45.000
<v Speaker 3>and and I have to say, like the way that

0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:48.360
<v Speaker 3>things were handled, I think in a large part we're

0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:52.720
<v Speaker 3>not good at best. And you know, I think there's

0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:56.040
<v Speaker 3>plenty of stories that even we didn't we weren't able

0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 3>to capture where things weren't handled in the best way

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:03.520
<v Speaker 3>and people were taking advantage of. So I'm excited to

1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:08.840
<v Speaker 3>hear what's coming next. Same any other thoughts, Brent.

1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:15.160
<v Speaker 8>When Misty was making her last point there, I got

1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:19.320
<v Speaker 8>to think, I wonder how many people, if you're not

1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:23.160
<v Speaker 8>so connected to the land or not so familiar with it,

1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:27.120
<v Speaker 8>I wonder how many people would pass by and think, well,

1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:28.960
<v Speaker 8>that place has always been.

1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:30.760
<v Speaker 3>There, right, Yeah, that's true.

1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:33.280
<v Speaker 8>You know, you never give a thought to to the

1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:39.480
<v Speaker 8>people that were there beforehand. And we've talked about in

1:00:39.600 --> 1:00:43.960
<v Speaker 8>several episodes in history booking School about how the Native

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<v Speaker 8>Americans were treated. But how many of you know, until

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<v Speaker 8>I got old enough to really figure out, well that

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<v Speaker 8>that's only been there forty years, wasn't there somebody living there?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, what happened to them?

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<v Speaker 8>Or the story of the TVA, you know, the Tennessee

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<v Speaker 8>Valley Authority all the there was even a scene and

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<v Speaker 8>what is that old brother where Art they when they

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<v Speaker 8>flooded that. I mean, you know that that stuff really

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<v Speaker 8>happened to homes. And there's places on Hebrews uh at

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<v Speaker 8>gris Ferry Lake, you know, and and those big lakes

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<v Speaker 8>were good fishing spots. And you can see now through

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<v Speaker 8>sonar and stuff that you can get on the boat,

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<v Speaker 8>you can see that's a house down there.

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<v Speaker 6>Somebody lived there, their kids played in that yard where

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<v Speaker 6>that where that structure is.

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<v Speaker 3>Love to think about, you know, I think I think

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<v Speaker 3>we have a responsibility to tell this story so that

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<v Speaker 3>the mistakes of the past aren't repeated. You know. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's one of the key things that that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>really important, because you know, you can just keep doing

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing over and over again. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we want to we want to make the right decisions.

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<v Speaker 8>And so anyway, Yeah, I noticed one thing, no one

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<v Speaker 8>was interrupted telling the story.

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<v Speaker 6>Especially interesting.

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<v Speaker 8>Just saying I don't know the common denominated I don't

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<v Speaker 8>know if there is a common denominator there.

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<v Speaker 6>But there was no interruptions today.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 6>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we'll just kick Clay off a podcast. Clay what Clyde.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a good, good, good talker.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I want to thank you guys for being here.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate it. I felt like it's been a great podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>great great render. Clay should be back on the next

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<v Speaker 3>one in his goat hat will I.

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<v Speaker 5>Hope he where's the goat hat? The entire next render?

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<v Speaker 5>I think he owses that for the false advertising.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, So it'll look good. We'll make him wear

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<v Speaker 3>the leafy suit and the hat and he can.

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<v Speaker 5>We might not want him to wear the suit. Probably

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<v Speaker 5>still small closed.

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<v Speaker 6>In opening wind.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, well, thanks, thanks everybody for listening. We'll see

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<v Speaker 3>what what's the tagline, keep the wild places wild because

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<v Speaker 3>that's where the bears are, and it goes