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Speaker 1: My name is Clay nukelemb and.

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Speaker 2: This is a production of the bear Grease podcast called

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Speaker 2: The Bear Grease Render, where we render down, dive deeper,

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Speaker 2: and look behind the scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast,

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Speaker 2: presented by f HF Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting

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Speaker 2: and fishing gear that's designed to be as rugged as

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Speaker 2: the place as we explore.

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Speaker 3: Well, here we are, ye, welcome to the bear Grease Render.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Clay Nukeomb No, actually Clay is gone

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Speaker 3: and so we have done a hostile takeover of the

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Speaker 3: bear Grease. Actually, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the trout

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Speaker 3: Grease Render. This episode will be all about fly fishing,

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Speaker 3: so buckle in, get ready to enjoy yourselves. It'll be

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Speaker 3: like being on a boat ride. It's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 4: Did y'all notice that at the end he said look

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Speaker 4: forward to being on the render with everybody.

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Speaker 1: Next week he said that false advertising.

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Speaker 3: Yeah advertising, great, gonna be a lawsuit. Yeah, thanks for

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Speaker 3: bringing up. Well, let me just introduce. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: go from my right to the left here because we

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Speaker 3: got a new a first time or here we have

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Speaker 3: doctor mister Nukelem Welcome.

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Speaker 5: So good to be here, so good to be here.

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Speaker 3: This isn't your first time?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: Great?

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Speaker 3: We have doctor Baron neukelemb yep here doctor. We have

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Speaker 3: mister Brent Reeves. Mister this country life Brent Reeves.

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Speaker 6: That could be nurse, call me nurse.

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Speaker 5: How Bear earned the doctorate? We'll just go with it.

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Speaker 3: And last, but not least, we have miss River Newcomb.

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Speaker 3: We are outnumbered by Newcombs today everywhere.

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Speaker 5: And you really you missed an important.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's right down on the floor here we got.

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Speaker 3: I am. I am hoping that. Uh today we're going

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Speaker 3: to have a little bit of sibling rivalry on the podcast,

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Speaker 3: a little like straightening out, like when Bear tells the

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Speaker 3: story River will be here.

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Speaker 5: Correct, that's not yeah, that's everyone. That's everyone's favorite thing

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Speaker 5: to listen to. It's your details. Actually it's not. I

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Speaker 5: was actually thinking, will they fight because these two I

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Speaker 5: don't really. So there's four new kids.

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Speaker 3: These are the two middle ones.

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Speaker 5: These are these are middle children.

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Speaker 7: Middle and best?

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Speaker 8: Wait a minute, is it go ahead? Was that for

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Speaker 8: both of you? Middle and best? Or is one of the.

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Speaker 3: If you guys ever noticed that that when Clay talks

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Speaker 3: about the birth order of his kids. He always says,

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Speaker 3: my middle daughter, River. Have you noticed that, not my

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Speaker 3: youngest daughter, River. I always wondered about that.

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Speaker 5: Because I'm the middle but maybe a counseling session younger.

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Speaker 3: Daughter and an older son and a younger son. But

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Speaker 3: he always says my middle daughter.

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Speaker 5: I've never noticed that either. It would be weird to

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Speaker 5: call River young. It's kind of interesting because we had

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Speaker 5: two girls and two boys and four kids in five

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Speaker 5: and a half years. That was the like Willow was

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Speaker 5: five and a half years old when Champ was born.

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Speaker 5: So it's not like any of them are massively spaced apart,

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Speaker 5: but Willow and River were just really close together. And

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Speaker 5: our life, like we moved here where we live now,

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Speaker 5: the Newcombe Farm when the girls were babies, and I

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Speaker 5: was I was pregnant with bear when we bought this

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Speaker 5: piece of land, and and and so there's kind of

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Speaker 5: like in the Newcombe family, there's this first five years

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Speaker 5: and the girls were apart of both of them, you know,

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Speaker 5: about three of those years. And so there's kind of

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Speaker 5: like the first era, you know, the prequel to the

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Speaker 5: Newcomb Farm, and the girls were part of that. And

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Speaker 5: then there was when we all moved out here and

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Speaker 5: the boys. The boys came after. And so even though

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Speaker 5: and Willow are the oldest kids.

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Speaker 3: They're they're collectively the oldest kids. Yeah. Well, the one

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Speaker 3: Newcomb who is absent today is mister Clay Newcomb. He

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Speaker 3: is currently in.

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Speaker 5: Alaska, rained in currently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately, Yeah, he hadn't heard today.

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Speaker 4: He said yesterday that it was clear and they were

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Speaker 3: But he's hunting a mountain goat.

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Speaker 4: Yep, And yeah, he said he they put a stalk

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Speaker 4: like with the goat costume that he So.

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Speaker 5: I think we need to visit this. Yeah, soture.

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Speaker 8: This was in we just got I just got home

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Speaker 8: Clay went to Alaska from Bozeman.

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Speaker 6: Well, they we roomed together, and.

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Speaker 3: The morning before he pulled this out.

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Speaker 8: He walked around the corner of me and Tony Petershom

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Speaker 8: was sitting in there talking, we're facing to go eat supper,

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Speaker 3: So about three weeks ago, Clay said, Clay sent me

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Speaker 3: a picture of mountain goat and he said, he said,

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Speaker 3: I want you to make me a mountain goat hat.

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Speaker 3: I was like, what He's like, I want you to

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Speaker 3: make me a mountain goat hat. And so I made

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Speaker 3: the mountain goat hat. So it's a white beanie with

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't know how you did the sun but.

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Speaker 3: And leafy suit and leaf leafy suit and painted at

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Speaker 3: to call it a costume.

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Speaker 6: Anecdotal to the anecdotal to the hat.

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Speaker 8: He pulled the white leafy suit out, freshly spray painted

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Speaker 8: smell to it. Oh yeah, yeah, Tony and I were

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Speaker 8: like sitting in the corner are out behind Walmart, huffing

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Speaker 8: paint to a sock. Is what it smelled like. And

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Speaker 8: I'm like, when when did you paint that? And it

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Speaker 8: was like minutes before he packed. It was like on

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Speaker 8: and you've known you've been going to Alaska for how

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Speaker 8: many months? But I didn't say that because it wasn't

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Speaker 8: my first rodeo, as they say him.

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Speaker 3: So he he's in Alaska right now, Yeah, taken over

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Speaker 3: the render. We're really hoping he gets a go I

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Speaker 3: hope he gets a goat with a hat. I hope

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Speaker 3: he can fool him.

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, he said, like roughly, it will work like

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Speaker 4: two out of ten times a go to.

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Speaker 3: Twenty percent of the time it works every time.

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Speaker 1: So who knows, maybe he'll get one to think he's

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Speaker 3: A goat with a bow.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's just really different than what I thought

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Speaker 5: puts on goat suits and wanders around the woods Like

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Speaker 5: that never crossed my mind that that would be a

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Speaker 8: I sent that bitcher to Alexis and he's like, oh

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Speaker 8: my gosh, did he lose a bent. That's voluntary.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was his idea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So best of luck, Clay Newcomb. We wish you well.

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Speaker 3: You want to hear a story about goats?

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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 8: This made me think of that I was a baby,

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Speaker 8: and I don't remember this part, but my grandmother told

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Speaker 8: me I was allergic to cow's milk and I couldn't

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Speaker 3: So, you know, that's not a thing. Nobody's allergic to

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Speaker 8: Anyway, my grandmother, the liar that she is, apparently, was

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Speaker 8: getting a good deal on goats milk. That's what the

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Speaker 8: canned goats milk and it was the foulst stench of anything.

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Speaker 8: And this is a lady who we were. I mean,

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Speaker 8: we raised chickens. We had two big chicken houses. And

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Speaker 8: aroma is putting it mildly. What a chicken. You have

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Speaker 8: never been around a chicken house. It smells like everything

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Speaker 8: the chicken laid except the egg. It's that times ten thousand.

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Speaker 8: So she said I had to drink goats milk, and

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Speaker 8: she said she would open it with them with a can.

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Speaker 3: Just they call on one side.

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Speaker 8: Fast forward fifty something years and a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 8: I'm down at some friends of mine down in the

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Speaker 8: they are living what they call the river stead life.

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Speaker 6: They're right there on the river.

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Speaker 8: They're raising goats, chickens, rabbits, they're making sausage from wild

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Speaker 6: My buddy's a forester. He works from home.

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Speaker 8: She's a educational educational consultant that contracts with different school

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Speaker 8: And I think she told me they figured eighty five

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Speaker 8: have goats. My only reference to goat's milk is the

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Speaker 8: stories from my grandmother. And she said, we went out

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Speaker 8: come back. She said, put some brownies in. They should

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Speaker 8: And I'm like, you had me, Let's go in and

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Speaker 8: pulls out these big plate of brownies and poors me

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Speaker 6: And I took a bite, and I thought boy, this

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Speaker 8: And as I'm getting that glass to my lips, I'm

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Speaker 6: Out of a goat.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure they came out of a goat, but I

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Speaker 8: can't smell it. I don't smell anything. So I took

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Speaker 8: get a bigger drink. I took a drink and it

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Speaker 8: tasted like milk, and I said, lee, Is, let's go

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Speaker 8: to milk. She said, oh, yeah, from this morning. It

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Speaker 8: and right milk pours it filled coffee filter, sets it

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Speaker 8: an ice box or refrigerator, and man, I could not

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Speaker 8: tell it didn't come from Elsie herself. It was tasted

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Speaker 8: exactly like so brownies.

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Speaker 3: And so when I was when I when we first

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Speaker 3: goat dairy and she I think she had like sixty goats.

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Speaker 3: She'd milk every day and people would come and I

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Speaker 3: remember she gave me. She gave me a gla and

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Speaker 3: I didn't know what to think, like I didn't know

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Speaker 3: what to expect. And I took a drink of it,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, this is delicious. I loved it.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was great.

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Speaker 1: So does that mean the milk you were drinking you

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Speaker 1: were a kid was just like it?

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Speaker 6: Probably I figured come out of a hog or something.

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Speaker 8: Who knows you put a label on anything. But now

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Speaker 8: I had a neighbor, a neighbor who is an absolute

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Speaker 8: health food nerd. He's probably one hundred and twelve years old.

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Speaker 8: He looks like he's forty. Yeah, but he walks up

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Speaker 5: We had these turkeys that were just mean as can be,

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Speaker 8: She made some cheese down there, it was had no

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Speaker 5: Cheese and it didn't taste like David smell.

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Speaker 6: No, And I never smelled David, but it didn't smell.

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Speaker 6: No, it really wasn't.

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Speaker 8: You could have said I got it out of the goat, right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm hoping you get the opportunity. Yeah, Bear,

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I made the bow. That's what I showed

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Speaker 4: So I cut down probably forty shafts, and only about

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Speaker 4: Exactly what the issue is, but they'll shrivel up and

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Speaker 1: But yeah, this one point?

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Speaker 3: Did you make that stuff point?

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Speaker 4: These are turkey feathers from the bushwhack turkey that I

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Speaker 4: I made, so it's not quite hunting worthy, Like there's

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Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, it's fantastic. What's what where'd you get the sinew?

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Speaker 4: Actually you're like this this is a what I don't

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Speaker 3: But what's holding the stump point on.

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Speaker 4: That is pine pitch and charcoal. Charcoal kind of hardens

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Speaker 1: Yeah, deer and bear season. Some hunting a bear this year.

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Speaker 4: But there's so this one's a Clovis, which is what

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Speaker 3: But just is this a local stone or is this

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Speaker 1: That's a stone I bought.

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Speaker 4: I don't really know where to get it, but that

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Speaker 3: But that's a good looking stone point bear.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that one is probably more effective than that one

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Speaker 1: It would be cooler to kill one with the Clovis.

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Speaker 6: This looks like the ones you see out west.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sharp, it is sharp.

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Speaker 3: How long does it take you to make.

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Speaker 6: One of those?

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Speaker 4: Probably thirty minutes. Well that's not bad, yeah, but to

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Speaker 3: So how many arrows are you gonna have made for

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Speaker 4: As many as I can, but I need at least

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it look like David when he gathered stones.

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Speaker 6: What's your yah? Yeah, roc, what's your max range? Uh?

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Speaker 4: With carbon arrows? Like fifteen yards right now? I'd like

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Speaker 4: And you gotta have heavier arrows because it isn't as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that's awesome. That looks great. Hey, I was

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Speaker 3: three states? Kansas, bear says, Kansas, Jesas, Kansas, Texas.

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Speaker 3: I bet that's number one, Iowa. You think Iowa was

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Any others? Just three? Okay?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, doctor Neil.

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Speaker 3: your guests? Hmmm, Delaware definitely rode out of Number two

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00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 3: is Illinois. Illinois has over thirteen hundred boona Crockett deer.

443
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: But number one, number one is none other than the

444
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 3: cheese state Wisconsin. Wisconsin has over eighteen hundred boone and

445
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 3: Crockett deer pretty crazy one hundred yep. I would have

446
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: thought Kansas would have been in there.

447
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 8: Well, I know a guy that a friend of mine,

448
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 8: Josh Jensen, lives up in Minnesota, the Viking. I called

449
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 8: him and he makes a yearly pilgrimage to Wisconsin the

450
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 8: deer hunt over there, and he sent me.

451
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 6: He sent me pictures for.

452
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: Just I think they've got huge numbers of deer and

453
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: huge deer. Yeah, so anyway, I thought that was pretty interesting. Also,

454
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: did you guys hear about this this guy at Yellowstone?

455
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 3: Let me see, I've got it.

456
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 5: Uh, pretty crazy.

457
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 3: I forgot the name of the actual guyser.

458
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 8: It wasn't birtha was it wasn't it a Jeff? Jeff

459
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 8: to guy that it could have been an old meal

460
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 8: something else, dumb Yellowstone.

461
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 3: The the pictures are pretty crazy. It's it's uh it

462
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: was sapphire pool and biscuit bacon, biscuit basin that'd be

463
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 3: delicious of.

464
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:40,479
Speaker 1: Bacon.

465
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: It's about two miles from from Old Faithful. It blew up.

466
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: I mean it looks like someone dropped a bomb. It

467
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 3: said it through stones that were hundreds of pounds and

468
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 3: if you look at the pictures. The walkways are just

469
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: like obliterated. It looks like Vietnam. I mean, just it

470
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: was crazy.

471
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Speaker 5: I took fifty kids over there last year.

472
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Speaker 6: Did you go to that?

473
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 5: We were really close to that one, and I think

474
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 5: one group actually went to that one. But I'm just

475
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 5: kind of what would have happened if they were even

476
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 5: baking biscuits down there, and.

477
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 6: It would that's what would come up out of it,

478
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 6: this biscuits.

479
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: And wouldn't like.

480
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 5: Nectar.

481
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 4: Was there like a scientific explanation that we know of

482
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 4: yet for why it?

483
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 3: Apparently it builds up pressure every now and then, and

484
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 3: all those guys ares and it's it's so infrequent that

485
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 3: I guess they don't worry about the people on the walkways.

486
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 3: But seems like.

487
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: Maybe the Little Old Faith will ever do.

488
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 3: That they say it has in the past.

489
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 5: Was there a warning? I mean, were there? Surely it

490
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 5: wasn't just a situation where there was no one there.

491
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: They most most of the people had cleared out, But

492
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: I don't think it was.

493
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 6: It was. I saw video of it. People were like, yeah, well.

494
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 3: It was for people to get away, but not they

495
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: hadn't like evacuated the area, so they wow, yeah, I

496
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 3: think it was. It was it was more active than

497
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: they expected it to be, and I think people people

498
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 3: got away from it pretty crazy, pretty well crazy any

499
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: hunting exploits lately.

500
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: Bear, I've been hog hunting with the self bow. Basically.

501
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 4: I had know a guy down here who's got some

502
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 4: big hog problem on his property and it's been real dry,

503
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 4: and he's got two old saddler's ponds, just little mud

504
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 4: holes out in the middle of the woods that are

505
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 4: just covered with hog sign But I've been going there

506
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 4: the last week, sitting on those mud holes, and then

507
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: like late afternoon, I'll just start slipping down roads and

508
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 4: I've seen hogs every time I've went. Actually shot at

509
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: one and missed him. I was sneaking in on this

510
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 4: road and I just hear a bunch of racket up

511
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 4: the road and I sneak up there and there's a

512
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 4: big group of them and I'm filming this for a

513
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 4: real and I set my camera up on the ground.

514
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: And this hunt, I didn't have a very good setup.

515
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 4: I just kind of had like a phone holder, and

516
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: I snuck into like seven yards from this little spotted hog,

517
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 4: and I look back to make sure my camera's going

518
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 4: and it had fallen over, and so I sneak back

519
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 4: over there. I set the camera back up and kind

520
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 4: of get it situated a little better this time. And

521
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 4: as I'm sneaking back into where I was, I think

522
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: there was one up above me like that I didn't see,

523
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 4: and it either saw me or smelled me or something,

524
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 4: but it just took off and all the other hogs

525
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: took off with it. And this little hog runs out

526
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 4: to like twenty yards and stops and there's basically like

527
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: a pocket, you know, he's covered in brush, but there's

528
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 4: a pocket just right over his vitals. And I was like, well,

529
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 4: if I can get an arrow through that pocket, he's dead.

530
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 4: If I don't, it's just going to hit a limb

531
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 4: and miss him.

532
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 6: They're going to wound him.

533
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so and I can kind of shoot at

534
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 4: twenty yards, but I'm not you know, like I wouldn't

535
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: shoot at like a deer or something, but in base

536
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 4: of hogs, I'll take a shot at them. And I

537
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 4: drew back, and right as I committed to the shot,

538
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: the pig starts running and I shoot and I hit

539
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 4: right in the pocket. But it just at that point

540
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 4: it was like, yeah, it was right behind him. So

541
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 4: I didn't get that one. But two days ago I

542
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 4: was out there and just saw a ton of hogs,

543
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: a real big one, big tusks, and there was probably

544
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 4: a group of like twenty of them, and I snuck

545
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 4: into about thirty yards from them. They were crossing this

546
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 4: road and I was just slipping in and I see

547
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 4: where three big ones cross the road, and I looked

548
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 4: down the mountain and there's the real big one with

549
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 4: the tusks coming up that same trail. And so I

550
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 4: slipped trying to get to where they crossed, and my

551
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: wind wasn't very good.

552
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: It was just kind of like barely.

553
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: Missing that hog, and so as it would move, I

554
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: would move to kind of try and keep out in

555
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 4: front of it. But the wind's just not that predictable.

556
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: It kind of shifts. And I got like twenty yards

557
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 4: from it before it got to the road, and it

558
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: smelled me, and you know, it stuck its head up

559
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: and it kind of blew like a deer, which was weird,

560
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 4: but it kind of weird. Yeah, it just kind of

561
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 4: and turned and started walking away. Yeah, had like ten

562
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 4: piglets with it, and they eventually and I tried to

563
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 4: kind of follow them, but I just couldn't walk as

564
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 4: quiet as they could walk fast.

565
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 6: My uncle killed this one just now even before.

566
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: Wow.

567
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 8: His hog, Yeah, it eased up into his or has

568
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 8: been rooting up out in his pasture where his horses are.

569
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 8: I mean that that filled up the bucket on that

570
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 8: track right there.

571
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 5: Is that.

572
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 6: Large yeah river.

573
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: Have you ever killed a hog? I did.

574
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 5: I killed a hog when I was twelve with what.

575
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: With dogs when you were twelve?

576
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 5: He's wild girl, teenage girl like out there with a knife,

577
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 5: spear and.

578
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: Pigs making nervous No, I was.

579
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 7: I didn't think I was going to get to kill it.

580
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 7: Me and Shepherd were like left behind, and I put

581
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 7: Sheppard on my back because we couldn't keep up and

582
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 7: we were running through like bamboo.

583
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: It was so hard.

584
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 5: And I got there and Dad was like oh.

585
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: And I was just like okay, without hesitation, you had

586
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: to quick.

587
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 7: There was the dogs were yeah. He was like oh

588
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 7: quick and I ran. He was in like a little ditch,

589
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 7: so it was an easy spot to get.

590
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: Oh, girshocker knife.

591
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 6: The first time I met.

592
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 8: Clay was the first time to be video and and

593
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 8: on a hall hunt one hundred. I mean a bear

594
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 8: hunt one hundred years ago, and River was probably nine

595
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 8: or ten. And we went up to this this one

596
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 8: place where we could call home from in the mountains

597
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 8: up there, pretty scenic view there, and I was calling home,

598
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 8: checking on Alexis, and Bailey was just a little baby

599
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 8: back then. Rivers off in front of this wall where

600
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 8: this walkway is, where this view is, and she's just

601
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 8: running around all over the place.

602
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 6: Like a monkey. Everywhere.

603
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 8: Her shepherd was there, Bear John was there. They're just

604
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 8: everywhere like squirrels turned loose. And I'm talking the phone,

605
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 8: I'm looking down there. I'm like, dang, it's some broken

606
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 8: beer bottles down there. Look, and then I see River

607
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 8: going right through them, probably barefoot as a duck.

608
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 6: Back here, back to there. I'm like, I gotta go,

609
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 6: I gotta get this kid out of this glass.

610
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 8: River, get up out of there. And my, oh no,

611
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 8: she was stepping all through it. No, no problem.

612
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 5: Was barefoot all the time. I mean we it was.

613
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 5: It was Actually I was the principal at her school,

614
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 5: and the teacher's parent teacher conference would come around, and

615
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 5: one of the issues was we just can't ever find

616
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 5: her shoes. She takes off when she gets to school,

617
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 5: and we just need her to keep her shoes on.

618
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 5: I'm not kidding, And it was she was in her feet.

619
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 5: Can I tell about your feet? Yeah, they got they

620
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 5: developed like a big space in between them.

621
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 7: If you walk on cold She to me this, if

622
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 7: you walk on cold floors long enough, your toel.

623
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: That's just what your feet do naturally together.

624
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 5: Now, right, because you wear shoes.

625
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: You're back to normal.

626
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, normal is what she was doing exactly. Well,

627
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if the cameras can see, but mister.

628
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 6: Over here shoes at home.

629
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 8: But I'm just saying I do. I don't walk through

630
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 8: glass with them bare feet.

631
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 5: We tried not to let her walk through glass either,

632
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 5: just in case anyone's listening that wants to take her

633
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 5: kids away.

634
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: Well.

635
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: One of the reasons that we have Miss River Nukeom

636
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: on the podcast today is because of the topic of

637
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: the Bear Grease podcasts.

638
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 5: Is the Buffalo National.

639
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: Buffalo National River, which.

640
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 5: She is a little bit named after that.

641
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell us about that. So Clay and.

642
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 5: I we had our kids when we were young. We

643
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 5: were in college and we would literally take our willow.

644
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 5: We would meet at the parking lot of the university

645
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 5: and we'd swap the car that had the car seat,

646
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 5: and I would take her home and he would go

647
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 5: to classes and then he'd go work at a grocery store.

648
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 5: And the year that I was pregnant with Willow or

649
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 5: with River, he got a new job and that job

650
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 5: had weekends off, and we never had weekends off before,

651
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 5: and so he had we off. So on the weekends

652
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 5: after church, we'd get in this cheap Cherokee and we'd

653
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 5: go to the Buffalo River almost every single day that summer.

654
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 5: The very first, uh, the first my first trimester of pregnancy,

655
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 5: we went and hike twks Mill Crag because it snowed,

656
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 5: and we took Willow out there.

657
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: Which is if you've not been Arkansas, that's definitely played

658
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: that hawk unbelievable.

659
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that was my first time to ever go

660
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 5: and I was I just remember I have a picture

661
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 5: of Willow all wrapped up because it was snowing outside

662
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 5: and we put her in a backpack, and I was

663
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 5: pregnant with River, and that was my first time to

664
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 5: ever go to That was I think my first time

665
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 5: to ever go to the Buffalo National River. And then

666
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 5: after that, we just we took advantage of every every

667
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 5: Sunday after church we'd go and we were trying to

668
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 5: figure out what to name her, because we had no

669
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 5: intention of having a theme, right, and it wasn't even

670
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 5: until we named Willow. Willow we named her that for

671
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 5: because of the meaning of the name. But then people

672
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 5: were like, oh, and your husband's name is Clay and

673
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 5: your name is Misty, so kind of an earthy theme,

674
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 5: So like Clay, Missy Willow and Amanda, I mean, I

675
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 5: don't know, like it just didn't seem like you kind

676
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 5: of had to be a little bit more thoughtful about.

677
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 5: So we kept trying to figure out what to name her,

678
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 5: and you know, we had kind of some pictures in

679
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 5: our head of and just feelings about what what this

680
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 5: this one would be like. And we were going out

681
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 5: to the river and I remember one day we were

682
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 5: at church and I had written a name in my

683
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 5: journal and I just thought it was a little bit

684
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 5: too wild. And we were at church and Clay looked

685
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 5: at me, I know, he was thinking about going to

686
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 5: the river afterwards, and he wrote the exact same name

687
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 5: down and I was like, I've got that name written down,

688
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 5: and that's what we named her River River Precious and

689
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 5: you know, it was inspired by the Buffalo National River.

690
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 5: We loved that place. We loved we loved it, and

691
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 5: now we know that our our joy came at a cost.

692
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 6: That's right, And there was most things.

693
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: Tell us here to somebody telling me your impression about

694
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: the about the podcast, it's kind of heavy.

695
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. It's it's I'm really conflicted because of

696
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 5: what I just shared. You know, I mean, we have

697
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 5: we we love our family kind of made a commitment.

698
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 5: I was one of those people that said I want

699
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 5: to go to every National park where the kids and

700
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 5: we drug you guys along, and so instead of Christmas presents,

701
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 5: every Christmas we would take the kids to.

702
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 3: Get in the car and make regardless of what the

703
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 3: weather was, we take often shoot.

704
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

705
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 5: And I remember going to Utah and the guy talking

706
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 5: about the land. I remember just being at a gas

707
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 5: station and we were we told him what we were

708
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 5: doing there, and he just kind of started talking about,

709
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 5: well this, you know, glad you are doing that this land.

710
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 5: And he started telling us that this land was taken

711
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 5: and that they're taking more land and uh they we

712
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 5: didn't understand what he was saying, right, And now I

713
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 5: kind of want to go back and research that because

714
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 5: I'm wondering if it's not a similar.

715
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: Grandpa's that's it, but it is.

716
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 5: I felt very conflicted about it and just kind of

717
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 5: really realizing the the cost that these things have. It's

718
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 5: it's something that I mean, I have my little public

719
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 5: land owner shirts and I'm sure I tell I take

720
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 5: kids out in national parks all the time, not just

721
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 5: my own kids, but now other people's kids. Do you

722
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 5: know at the school I work at? Because I just

723
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 5: think this is this is one of the greatest things

724
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 5: that that we have.

725
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: This is our land, and you think about the.

726
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 8: It is sad, man, it is absolutely a sad story.

727
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 8: It's a it's a wonderful way that America looks at

728
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 8: conservation of parks and places, but you never hear the

729
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 8: tale the cost of it. It's like, man, we're letting

730
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 8: the prisons are over crowded. We need more prisons. You

731
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 8: want more prisons, I absolutely do. We're gonna put one

732
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 8: in your house, your town, not here, you know, it

733
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 8: needs to be somewhere else. And you have such strong

734
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 8: feelings about that. And I listened to that stuff. I

735
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 8: listened to mister Thelines, and I knew the story of

736
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 8: Granny Henderson, which will be more dealt into the next

737
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 8: part of it.

738
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 6: I was very familiar with her.

739
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 8: I wasn't mister Thelions, but I had heard that Merle Haggartson.

740
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 8: But you think about that and you put yourself in

741
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 8: their place, you know, And I think about, like on

742
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 8: all the stories and stuff that I tell, it's all

743
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 8: connected to place and where I grew up that belonged

744
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 8: to our family, you know, as they stuck dur And says,

745
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 8: it's not ours, it's just.

746
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 6: Really our turn.

747
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 8: But in our turn, we had this special place at

748
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 8: the river bottoms of the Slane River, which you know,

749
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 8: it would be terrible to have thought about them coming

750
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 8: in and moving my grandparents out of there, forcibly removing

751
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 8: them from some place. And that podcast was three minutes

752
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 8: into it when I was thinking, yeah, yeah, not not

753
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 8: only did we do that to the folks in the

754
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 8: Buffalo River, we did that to the natives years before then.

755
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 8: You know, So who in turn did it do whoever

756
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 8: else had it before they got there? Yeah, you know,

757
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 8: so it's just a long line of egregious behavior.

758
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, but man.

759
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: It's so I'm with Misty. I've been you know, I've

760
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 3: I've talked with Clay a lot about this podcast while

761
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 3: he's been working on it, and it's such a there's

762
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: such a turmoil inside of me because I value It's

763
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: almost like I feel this sense of ownership of it

764
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: myself now, but it's really it wasn't mine to begin with, right,

765
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, I think I think there I don't.

766
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a right answer. You know,

767
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: there's there's places that we've visited, like you know, if

768
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: you go up into into southern Missouri, there's Elk River

769
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 3: there and it's absolutely beautiful river, free flowing river, but

770
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: it's just like you got these bars on the river,

771
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: you got people partying down the river all the time,

772
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: and it's just it's overrun with with just commercialism. And

773
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: I think, man, what I have wanted the Buffalo River

774
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: to to turn into that? Absolutely not, but it actually

775
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: might have exactly exactly, And I think that was the

776
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: part of the concern. You know, we can't there's a

777
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 3: lot of should have, would have, could a or speculating

778
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: on what what could have happened. But I'm I mean,

779
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: at the same time, I'm like, man, I'm grateful that

780
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: I can go down to the Buffalo and I've got this,

781
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: for the most part, pristine river that is beautiful. I

782
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: can hike Goats Bluff and it's absolutely breathtaking. It's it's it.

783
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 3: Like Clay said in the podcast, it's it's the crown

784
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: jewel of Arkansas.

785
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 8: We also have the aspect of people's enjoyment is different.

786
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 6: You know.

787
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 8: I love and my my friend buddy of mine, Michael Mechs,

788
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 8: and I used to camp up in a wildlife management

789
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 8: area along to Buffalo and we for twenty years in

790
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 8: every spring, that's where we started.

791
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 6: Turkey season was up there.

792
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 8: We got a lot of turkeys and I think about

793
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 8: that place and I think about what a great place

794
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 8: to kill a turkey. And there are some other folks

795
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 8: that have access to them, like, oh my gosh, I

796
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 8: can't believe those people are killing turkeys up there, But

797
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 8: they they're enjoying that same stretch of property. So your

798
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 8: interpretation of it is really, you know, to each individual.

799
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 8: You know, people like us that would enjoy harvesting game

800
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 8: from the land, and the other folks that also have

801
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 8: access and like being there, would think, oh, that's a

802
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 8: terrible thing to do. Don't kill those animals. You can

803
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 8: go buy an animal, a dead animal at the store,

804
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 8: and so a lot of people have a lot of

805
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 8: different ways, but it's all connected to that one beautiful

806
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 8: place up there. And I had never thought about the

807
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 8: differences really of how people perceive things, because forever, growing up,

808
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 8: I thought everybody grew up like I did, you know, yeah, right, so,

809
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 8: but people look a look at the same place, have

810
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 8: a familiarity with the place, and then look at it

811
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 8: in interacting with it in two different ways or a

812
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 8: lot of different ways.

813
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 3: Really, I think as I was thinking about it, I

814
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: think the thing that we have to recognize is that

815
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: regardless of whether the land was taken around, these people

816
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 3: made a sacrifice. It's a sacrifice that we benefit from.

817
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: And unfortunately the sacrifice was forced on them, you know,

818
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: but I think, you know, there's not anything we can

819
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: do about it now except say thank you, you know,

820
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 3: thanks to the Thelions family, thanks to these two thousand

821
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 3: families up and down one hundred and fifty six miles

822
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: of river that that had to make that decision. And

823
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: you know, it's interesting because I, you know, I didn't

824
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 3: grow up in one place. You know, we we moved

825
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: a lot I don't have a history that's tied to

826
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: a place or a land. You know, all my all

827
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: my my families from up north, up in Michigan, and

828
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: uh and so I think, you know, when I moved

829
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: to Arkansas, I felt like this is home to me.

830
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 3: You know, I felt this immediate connection to the Ozarks

831
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: and uh and I you know, I've talked about to

832
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: some friends about the adoptive nature of the Ozarks, how

833
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 3: it really draws you in and makes you a part

834
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: of it. And I think about that for the for

835
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: the Buffalo River, and uh. You know, I appreciate the

836
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: fact that willingly or unwillingly, that that these families have

837
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: have made the sacrifice for me to find a new home.

838
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 9: You know, yeah, River, what do you think?

839
00:43:59,040 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 5: Yeah?

840
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 7: I agree is what Mom said, that these National parks

841
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 7: have been such a big part of our lives. And

842
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 7: we've gone all over all over the country going to

843
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 7: different National parks, and the narrative around it, and the

844
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 7: narrative that I heard growing up was that this was

845
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 7: like the preservation of American land. This is our land.

846
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 7: And you hear about like Theodore Roosevelt when he started

847
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 7: the National Park System, and that's the narrative that I

848
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 7: was taught in school and that that I've experienced, and

849
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 7: I never I never even thought about about the people

850
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 7: that lived there. And so then the other thing I

851
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 7: was thinking about is how do you compensate people for that?

852
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 7: If somebody came and to take the house that Dad

853
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 7: built when we were little kids, tue no amount of

854
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 7: money you could give me that would be worth that,

855
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 7: And so I just can't imagine if you had generations

856
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 7: and generations, and so it's interesting, it's interesting to hear

857
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 7: that side of the story.

858
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: And just so there's two truths, right.

859
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 7: And not even sides, But there's a truth that we

860
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 7: love this land and it does feel like mine and

861
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 7: it's part of our lives in our history now. But

862
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 7: then there's the truth that it was stolen.

863
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 8: And hard it's hard to one hundred percent celebrate the

864
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 8: acquisition of the land without mourning the laws of yeah family.

865
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know. In my conversations with Clay, Clay really

866
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: felt a sense of being a steward of the story

867
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: of the of the people from from the landowners. He

868
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: really wanted to just portray what they've done in a

869
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: in a really honest way without without you know, celebrating

870
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: the public lands without recognizing their story. And I think

871
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: that's one of the key things that we can do

872
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: now is just honor, honor them and to tell the

873
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: story so that people are aware.

874
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 8: So yeah, because you can't. I mean, there's there's no

875
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 8: change in it. It is what it is. What happened happened,

876
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 8: And the only disser of us we would do is

877
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 8: to not talk about those folks and what they did

878
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 8: and went through.

879
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that that's the I think that's one

880
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 5: of the values of Bear Grease and and things like

881
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 5: it is it tells. It's a it's it's a storytelling platform,

882
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 5: and that's that's what it is. And and it allowed this

883
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 5: side to be heard, this side that a lot of

884
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 5: people don't know. It allowed that to be heard. And uh,

885
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 5: and you know, there's well we'll continue to be told.

886
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 5: There's more coming up.

887
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts.

888
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: We've got a couple of points.

889
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 3: Because Tess has got some thoughts to ye.

890
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 6: If I had thumbs, I let myself out. Well.

891
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 4: So I was on that meal ride with Willard the

892
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 4: lines going through there, and it was pretty wild. It

893
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 4: was exactly how my dad described it on the podcast.

894
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: It was like seeing like a lost civilization, you know,

895
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: like you'd go you know, like we'd be online trails

896
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 4: that like people would hike, like real common trails, and

897
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 4: then they just jut off and we'd go two hundred

898
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 4: yards off the trail and there'd be like this like

899
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 4: perfectly intact barn, but it just had vines growing on

900
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 4: it and trees were over it.

901
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: And even a lot of places that like.

902
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 4: You just go to and it would look just like

903
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 4: a cedar thicket or something they would you know, that

904
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 4: was like an old field. And it was interesting to

905
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 4: see that because then I kind of think about like

906
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 4: the places that I hunt where I have heard about

907
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 4: the people that you know, either got their land bought

908
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 4: out or taken from them, and it's just like these

909
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 4: cedar thickets with houses in them, and it's just like, oh,

910
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 4: that used to be a field. And so it was

911
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 4: pretty crazy to do that, and to go up to

912
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 4: Willardvillne's old home place and seeing the foundation that they

913
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 4: tore down and that old cellar. It was just kind

914
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 4: of crazy because it was like usually whenever I go

915
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 4: to the Buffalo River, you know, like if you're going

916
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 4: like on like the trails and looking at the bluffs

917
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: and stuff like you're kind of a spectator of it.

918
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 4: But whenever we were actually there with like the locals

919
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 4: who have and you know now they lived like just

920
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 4: outside the park, right, it was it was like it

921
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 4: was just a different perspective on the Buffalo River because

922
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 4: it was just like people that actually live there and

923
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 4: have lived there and Willardville lines, you know, he lived

924
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 4: there until he was like I can't remember, but until

925
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 4: he was a you know, I think he was ten.

926
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 4: But it was just it was a unique perspective just

927
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 4: because they would that was like it would be like

928
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 4: coming back to this house that I've lived at my

929
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 4: whole life, but just seventy years later and everything's torn

930
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 4: down because they tore his house down, right, Like there

931
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: was just it was just an old rock foundation. There's

932
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 4: still a smokehouse and like a cellar, but it was

933
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 4: just kind of I would just have to imagine that

934
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 4: would be pretty crazy, like just to actually experience that.

935
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 4: But what else was crazy is like he took us

936
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 4: over to like the schoolhouse, and you know they told

937
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 4: us about how like this kid, thirteen year old kid

938
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 4: burned the schoolhouse down like two times and then they

939
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 4: built it down by the river and then the river

940
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 4: washed it away. But like you see like the foundations

941
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: of the old schoolhouse and we actually walked like he

942
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: took us on his route.

943
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: To school every day.

944
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 4: Oh really, And I mean he literally had to cross

945
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: the Buffalo River every single day to get to school

946
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 4: and then go up one of those big mountains, go

947
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 4: over it down on to the other side, and he'd

948
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: be at the school. But it was three miles, like

949
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 4: it was literally the three mile walk to school, and

950
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 4: if the river was high, they'd take horses or float.

951
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 6: Or if he saw smoke, he turned around and go back. Yeah.

952
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he said he set it on fire because

953
00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: he didn't want to go to school. Same but identify

954
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 4: with Yeah, and uh, it was kind of My dad

955
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 4: asked Willard if they ever like really recognized, like if

956
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 4: they ever really looked at the land as like for

957
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 4: that for its natural beauty, that we would all look

958
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 4: at it, you know, through that perspective of you know,

959
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: there's these big bluffs in it's this incredible place. And

960
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 4: I think he was talking particularly about the waterfall.

961
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: What's the waterfall called on foot?

962
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said they used to he said him and

963
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 4: his dad would go ride mules up there, and they

964
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: always just thought it's just the waterfall.

965
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: They never really thought much of it.

966
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 4: They just viewed the land more as like a just

967
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 4: like a provider almost.

968
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: Because they, you know, a resource.

969
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was kind of interesting to see that

970
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 4: perspective because like, whenever I walk around just the places

971
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 4: around here, the woods that I mosey around in, I

972
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: never really look to it as like, I mean, I

973
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 4: do recognize that it is like an incredible place, and

974
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 4: it's like just really anytime you're in the woods, like

975
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 4: just something that's untouched is always pretty incredible. But it

976
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 4: kind of shifted my perspective a little bit on the

977
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 4: way that I would look at the places that I

978
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 4: use as my resource, you know, like the places that

979
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 4: I hunt. It's like if that was and it very

980
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 4: I mean, like it's really is like the plate the

981
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 4: ozarks are just an incredible place with big rocks and

982
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 4: trees and overlooks, and it's like, I don't know, it

983
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 4: was just kind of cool to see them the way

984
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 4: that they looked at that. And now he said his

985
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 4: dad never looked at it that way. His dad always

986
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 4: just looked at it as is the land we farm,

987
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 4: this is how we live. And he said once they

988
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 4: kind of started to you know, once they made it

989
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 4: a park, then he said that he you know, mister

990
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: Willard could kind of he started seeing it as this

991
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 4: beautiful place. But he's even still like you could tell

992
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 4: his perspective was way different than ours because he was

993
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 4: actually a part of it.

994
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: He wasn't a spectator.

995
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 6: And you're so familiar with it too. I mean, it's

996
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 6: something he looked at it every day.

997
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 8: You see a bright shiny object once a month, you're like,

998
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 8: oh wow, yeah, that guess my intention.

999
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 6: You look at it every day. It's just something you

1000
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 6: walk by.

1001
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 5: Yep, you know, it's interesting. I wonder how much of

1002
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 5: that is also a generational dynamic. I think I just

1003
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 5: think about even your your parents. I think, God help us.

1004
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 5: But I think about all the all the effort that's

1005
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 5: gone into making sure you do appreciate.

1006
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the.

1007
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 5: Little I mean I get nighttime, when we'd get when

1008
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 5: we'd come home from nine events, Clay would stop the

1009
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 5: kids going in the house and just say, guys, look up.

1010
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 5: Not everyone gets to see stars stars like this because

1011
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 5: it there's not a lot of lights out here and

1012
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 5: you can really see it, and I just think, I

1013
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 5: wonder how much of that, Yeah, it is as a

1014
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 5: result of what happened there and kind of being able

1015
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 5: to see it through everyone else's eyes kind of creates

1016
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 5: a shift. And how much of that is a generational shift,

1017
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 5: even from Willard and his dad to the subsequent generation.

1018
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 8: When you're sitting on the front porch and looking down

1019
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 8: the hill at the beautiful stream down there, you think, man,

1020
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 8: that's pretty. But when you get down to the bottom

1021
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 8: and you're toting two buckets of water back up, Yeah, exactly.

1022
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 6: God, I wish we lived so yeah, exactly.

1023
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 8: So perspective is relevant, I guess to where you're standing

1024
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 8: a lot of it.

1025
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 6: Man.

1026
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: How about Brooks b Loven's, man, he has a great

1027
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: way of putting things in perspective. I was with play

1028
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 3: when you did that, when you did that interview, and

1029
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: it was kind of like a side note where he

1030
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: talked about his grandparents being there. His grandparents lived in

1031
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 3: the land that is now Norfolk Lake, and the story

1032
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 3: of them toting off his great grandparents. I thought it

1033
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: was funny. It's like I just picture them playing, but

1034
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's really sad and and you know,

1035
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 3: I think Clay mentions it in the podcast. It's like

1036
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, yeah, they they did take the land,

1037
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: they did turn it into a park, but it could

1038
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 3: be underwater, you know what I mean, and never geta falls.

1039
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 5: Exactly where there's just like merchants everywhere. And I mean

1040
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 5: that was that's why they created the National Park System

1041
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 5: is they didn't want to they didn't want it to

1042
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 5: be commercialized, beautiful places like that to be commercialized, like

1043
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 5: Niagara Falls was.

1044
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a place out and that we used to

1045
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 8: go to and in uh Edistowe Island, South Carolina is

1046
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 8: a place that we would vacation in the summertime and

1047
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 8: that there's there's no city water there. If you the

1048
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 8: potable water that you get to drink and cook with,

1049
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 8: you have to go to the center of town and

1050
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 8: they have a big well we used to call them

1051
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 8: water buffalo is in the service. But it's a big

1052
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 8: tank with different with spigots in it that you get

1053
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 8: city water out of. And they won't put any kind

1054
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 8: of commercial watering system there to keep that kind of

1055
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 8: stuff from happening. There's like one grocery store. It's a

1056
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 8: resort place. The people that beach houses and homes there

1057
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 8: that they enjoy, but they keep it from there's no motels,

1058
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 8: no condominiums, no stuff like that to keep down that

1059
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 8: footprint so small that people are coming in they want

1060
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 8: to come in and enjoy, yet not enjoy the motels

1061
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 8: and hotels arcades and there's nothing like that, And so there's.

1062
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 3: A little bit of a you know, there always is

1063
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: a trade off. There always is a trade off, you know.

1064
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 3: I think I think, you know, we've got these lands

1065
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 3: that are underwater now. Beaver Lake and Arkansas has has

1066
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 3: four I think four big lakes, Bullshoals, Beaver Wash, Taw,

1067
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 3: the Gray, the Gray, and uh, you know, that's all

1068
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 3: land that will probably never see again. At the same time,

1069
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 3: it's like I'm a trout fly fishing guide to make

1070
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 3: part of my living. I make part of my living

1071
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: under that damn you know.

1072
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 9: What I mean.

1073
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I mean, there's always always a trade off,

1074
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 3: and I think I think one of the biggest things

1075
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 3: we can do is just recognize it and just recognize it.

1076
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 3: I wanted to, uh, I wanted to read an email

1077
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 3: I got from a listener really great. I think, well,

1078
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 3: written email. He he is a road engineer and uh,

1079
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: his name is Nash. I don't know where he's from.

1080
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: I didn't say, but he said, uh, he said, hey, Clay,

1081
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 3: loved the episode on the Buffalo River. I'm a roadway engineer.

1082
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 3: In my field, we constantly have to consider the pros

1083
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 3: and cons of the roadways and intersections that we design.

1084
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 3: At times, we do have to look at the displacement

1085
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 3: of businesses or family homes. We have to decide whether

1086
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 3: one home or business is worth preserving over the efficiency

1087
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 3: of travel through an area. This is not an easy

1088
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 3: decision to come to, and it can be easy for

1089
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 3: the outside. From the outside to look in and say,

1090
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 3: why is this road so important? And as roadway engineers,

1091
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 3: it's our job to explain it. Every project has its

1092
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: own specifics. But take for instance, the interstate system we've

1093
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 3: built in this country. Now, this project was way before

1094
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: my time, as I'm only twenty four, but could you

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00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: imagine the time it would take to get good ship

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00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: across the country without the interstate system, and with this

1097
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 3: time would also come huge price increases. It would be

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00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 3: easy to see how much more expensive going to the

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00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 3: grocery store would be for every American. The interstate system

1100
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 3: undoubtedly displaced many Americans and cost billions of dollars in

1101
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 3: tax payer money, but it's done so much good for

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00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 3: the American people personally. When designing a project, I always

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00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 3: look at the project from every angle and alternative I

1104
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 3: can before deciding to displace a business or home. But

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00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: sometimes why the cost and benefits, the greater good ends

1106
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 3: up being to displace. A few years ago, I worked

1107
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 3: on a state project that split a large family property

1108
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 3: directly in half. The poor lady that owned the land

1109
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 3: was so upset with the project and gave the construction

1110
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 3: workers and inspectors myself included a hard time when the

1111
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: project was being constructed. The state attempted multiple times to

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00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: have conversations with her to design the project in a

1113
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 3: way that would satisfy her, but she would refuse to

1114
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 3: cooperate negotiations, and eventually the state would use eminent domain.

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00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 3: It was such a sad story, but the project was

1116
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 3: has reduced the congestion in multiple nearby towns and has

1117
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 3: shortened the time that the workman has to get home

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00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: to his family after long day of work. I love

1119
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: the work that I do and hope to make the

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00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 3: best judgment, calls to help the best, to help the

1121
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: communities as a whole. But it's always a difficult decision

1122
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 3: to take away a home land or business places. I

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00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 3: just think, you know, it's a tough position to be in.

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Speaker 6: You know, somebody's got to do the job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad it's not again, I'm glad it's not me.

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Speaker 5: Real I thought the comments on the podcast really if

1127
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 5: you look on Instagram when Clay posted, I just kind

1128
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 5: of wanted to see if people would say things like that,

1129
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 5: you know, that's a good I hadn't seen that email.

1130
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 5: That's a good email, that's a good It's a different perspective.

1131
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 5: What it seems like is that people are saying, overwhelmingly,

1132
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 5: we were caught up in this this you know, this

1133
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 5: happened to my grandparents, This happened to and and a

1134
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 5: lot of people across the US have that story and

1135
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 5: and so yeah, it's these are tough trade offs, and

1136
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 5: I think it's it's meaningful to people to be able

1137
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 5: to let their story be told unfettered by the context.

1138
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 3: I really I'm looking forward to this next next podcast

1139
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: because I think it's going to be pretty pretty revealing

1140
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 3: and and I have to say, like the way that

1141
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 3: things were handled, I think in a large part we're

1142
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 3: not good at best. And you know, I think there's

1143
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 3: plenty of stories that even we didn't we weren't able

1144
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: to capture where things weren't handled in the best way

1145
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 3: and people were taking advantage of. So I'm excited to

1146
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 3: hear what's coming next. Same any other thoughts, Brent.

1147
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 8: When Misty was making her last point there, I got

1148
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 8: to think, I wonder how many people, if you're not

1149
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 8: so connected to the land or not so familiar with it,

1150
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 8: I wonder how many people would pass by and think, well,

1151
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 8: that place has always been.

1152
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 3: There, right, Yeah, that's true.

1153
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 8: You know, you never give a thought to to the

1154
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 8: people that were there beforehand. And we've talked about in

1155
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 8: several episodes in history booking School about how the Native

1156
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 8: Americans were treated. But how many of you know, until

1157
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 8: I got old enough to really figure out, well that

1158
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,959
Speaker 8: that's only been there forty years, wasn't there somebody living there?

1159
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 6: You know, what happened to them?

1160
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 8: Or the story of the TVA, you know, the Tennessee

1161
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 8: Valley Authority all the there was even a scene and

1162
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 8: what is that old brother where Art they when they

1163
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 8: flooded that. I mean, you know that that stuff really

1164
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 8: happened to homes. And there's places on Hebrews uh at

1165
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 8: gris Ferry Lake, you know, and and those big lakes

1166
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 8: were good fishing spots. And you can see now through

1167
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 8: sonar and stuff that you can get on the boat,

1168
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 8: you can see that's a house down there.

1169
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 6: Somebody lived there, their kids played in that yard where

1170
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 6: that where that structure is.

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Speaker 3: Love to think about, you know, I think I think

1172
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 3: we have a responsibility to tell this story so that

1173
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 3: the mistakes of the past aren't repeated. You know. I

1174
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: think that's one of the key things that that's that's

1175
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 3: really important, because you know, you can just keep doing

1176
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 3: the same thing over and over again. But you know,

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01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 3: we want to we want to make the right decisions.

1178
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Speaker 8: And so anyway, Yeah, I noticed one thing, no one

1179
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 8: was interrupted telling the story.

1180
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 6: Especially interesting.

1181
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 8: Just saying I don't know the common denominated I don't

1182
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 8: know if there is a common denominator there.

1183
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 6: But there was no interruptions today.

1184
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 3: I love it.

1185
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 6: I love it.

1186
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll just kick Clay off a podcast. Clay what Clyde.

1187
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 5: He's a good, good, good talker.

1188
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 3: Well, I want to thank you guys for being here.

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01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 3: Appreciate it. I felt like it's been a great podcast,

1190
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 3: great great render. Clay should be back on the next

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01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 3: one in his goat hat will I.

1192
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 5: Hope he where's the goat hat? The entire next render?

1193
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 5: I think he owses that for the false advertising.

1194
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 3: That's right, So it'll look good. We'll make him wear

1195
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: the leafy suit and the hat and he can.

1196
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 5: We might not want him to wear the suit. Probably

1197
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 5: still small closed.

1198
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 6: In opening wind.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, thanks, thanks everybody for listening. We'll see

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01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 3: what what's the tagline, keep the wild places wild because

1201
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 3: that's where the bears are, and it goes