Speaker 1: Warning. This podcast contains spoilers for Secret Invasion episodes three
Speaker 1: and four. Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion and on
Speaker 1: Rosday Night, and welcome to X Revision, the Crooked Media
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Speaker 2: In this episode, I'm previously on some exciting DC costing
Speaker 2: news and there has been a lot of it as
Speaker 2: the studio has been a lot. They are trying to
Speaker 2: tie down these actors before this sag strike potentially happens
Speaker 2: at midnight to night.
Speaker 3: Please don't do this, don't do it.
Speaker 2: So there's lots of DC casting news in the airlock
Speaker 2: Secret Invasions episode three and four, and we have questions.
Speaker 2: We have questioned, lots of questions in ned out No,
Speaker 2: I don't know it's you, You're impassonating me or a
Speaker 2: scroll a very relevant Secret Invasion theory.
Speaker 3: And coming up next.
Speaker 1: Previously on Okay, first up, some DC casting news. It
Speaker 1: was announced today Today's Wednesday, July twelfth that Barrie's Anthony
Speaker 1: Kerrigan aka Nojo Hank aka Gentlemen I see around town
Speaker 1: on a regular business I I ate dinner from him
Speaker 1: one table over and he seems like a wonderful gentleman
Speaker 1: will be playing Metamorpho aka Rex Mason and what has
Speaker 1: to be one of the most perfect castings out of the.
Speaker 2: Out of tas oh Nos, best casting ever like this.
Speaker 2: This is the kind of casting way you just put
Speaker 2: in a group chat and you're like perfect, and everyone's
Speaker 2: just like perfect. I'm so glad I saw this, Like
Speaker 2: this is incredible. Give the casting director a million dollars.
Speaker 2: Give James Gunn some props because I'm sure this was
Speaker 2: one of the things that he was like excited about doing.
Speaker 2: This is such a fun character. Madamorpho created by Bobpeny
Speaker 2: and one of my icons, Romona forre Don, still making
Speaker 2: comics to this day. She's an Eye debuted in The
Speaker 2: Brave and the Bold fifty seven in January nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 2: Really good, weird character, been an Outsiders doing Patrol Justice
Speaker 2: League Europe, seven Soldiers of Victory, Justice League Task Force
Speaker 2: and more. Just like a super good, weird, deep cut
Speaker 2: DC character. So let me ask you a question before
Speaker 2: we get into these other ones.
Speaker 1: Please please, please, please please.
Speaker 2: Is this really a Superman movie? Because there are a
Speaker 2: shot of characters that have been cast. We're talking about
Speaker 2: one of the biggest ensemble movies since like Endgame, with
Speaker 2: the amount of characters. So, how do you balance a
Speaker 2: Superman origin story, a Superman Lowis Lane working in you know,
Speaker 2: the Daily Planet kind of story. How do you balance
Speaker 2: that with Metamorpho and all these other cool castings that
Speaker 2: are about to get into.
Speaker 3: I think that.
Speaker 1: It is going to be a Superman origin story, but
Speaker 1: a Superman origin story in the sense of it will
Speaker 1: be the the uh reveal of Superman to the world.
Speaker 1: Clark Kent has been working as a reporter doing stuff
Speaker 1: that you know, he knows about his powers. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: flown around and saved a few people here and there,
Speaker 1: a bus from falling into it, from a tree, cat
Speaker 1: from a tree, you.
Speaker 3: Know that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But now with other superheroes and super villains in play,
Speaker 1: the super villains perhaps start overpowering the superheroes, the you know,
Speaker 1: the very whatever version of early versions of a super
Speaker 1: team they have here, and so Superman has to reveal
Speaker 1: himself and be like, Okay, I guess I'm going.
Speaker 2: To step I like that. I think I think great,
Speaker 2: that's what it's gonna be. What do you think, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you my theory off that we reveal some
Speaker 2: of the other characters, because I think those are the
Speaker 2: selling point to me.
Speaker 1: Next up, Isabellamer said, Vanity Fair exclusively announced we'll play
Speaker 1: hawk Girl. Isabellamer said, you're familiar with from the absolutely
Speaker 1: appalling Sacario Day of the Sacrato. It's terrible, horrendously awful movie.
Speaker 1: It's politics are truly truly outrageous.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed the first Secario.
Speaker 1: The sequel is terrible, and also Dora's Lost City of
Speaker 1: Gold actually delightful.
Speaker 2: Ten out of ten would recommend if you have not
Speaker 2: seen it, it's a joy.
Speaker 1: And I will say the inclusion of a hawk Girl
Speaker 1: m kind of has me feeling. This is kind of
Speaker 1: why I say, I wonder if it's going to be
Speaker 1: like a Justice Society kind of thing, and then the
Speaker 1: Justice Society just gets like Murk, and so Superman has
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, I'm here.
Speaker 2: That's a really great point actually, because we know that
Speaker 2: that was what If we look at James Gunn's patterns
Speaker 2: with Suicide Squad, he announced all these different people playing
Speaker 2: all these different deep cut heroes and then killed them
Speaker 2: off in the first five minutes of the movie. Now,
Speaker 2: do I think it's going to be that quick. Probably not,
Speaker 2: but I do think that was a really interesting addition.
Speaker 2: I like your thing about the JSA. I think that's right.
Speaker 2: This is such a weird, deep cut character. It's just
Speaker 2: like hawk Man. There's like multiple versions, Like the original
Speaker 2: version is the wife of Carter Hall, who is you know,
Speaker 2: I guess in the old days, the associate of the
Speaker 2: Justice Society. They're like, she can't be in it, she's
Speaker 2: just a woman. But she's created by Icon Gardener Fox
Speaker 2: love Him Dennis Neville from Flash Comics number one, January
Speaker 2: nineteen forty. That's how old this character is. There's been
Speaker 2: the different versions, the fanagarian one who is the wife
Speaker 2: of Carter Holl spelled differently, another Gardener Fox with Joe Cuba,
Speaker 2: and then Kendra Saunders, who's like the modern one that
Speaker 2: I think most people know. James Robinson, David Eskoya, Friend
Speaker 2: of the Pod, but oh David Icon Superhero Movie Icon
Speaker 2: and Steven Sadowski and that's like a nineties version. I think,
Speaker 2: knowing James, this is probably gonna be an amalgamation slash
Speaker 2: something a little bit new because they're apart from in
Speaker 2: the DCAU, the animated films and TV. I would say
Speaker 2: that is the real, definitive version of hawk Girl for
Speaker 2: a lot of people, is the animated DC version. So
Speaker 2: I think there's space on screen for a really great
Speaker 2: hawk Girl. There was a hawk gull in the CW,
Speaker 2: but I feel like this could be a really cool space. Also,
Speaker 2: hawk Man was played by Aldis Hodge in the much
Speaker 2: maligned Rightfully So Black Adam. But oh this Hodge was brilliant.
Speaker 2: That was cool casting. The costume looked great. I would
Speaker 2: like to maybe see him come back. It's just bonkers
Speaker 2: to me, like that is such an out there casting
Speaker 2: for a Superman movie. But it's not the last out
Speaker 2: there casting.
Speaker 1: It is not the last out there casting. We continue.
Speaker 1: EEDI Gethegi, who we know as from X Men First
Speaker 1: Class and what was possibly the worst death in a
Speaker 1: Marvel related film of a character that definitely should not
Speaker 1: have done.
Speaker 2: He always evolves. We know you, he said, abering about
Speaker 2: this because people like us talk about it all the time,
Speaker 2: but it's true. I'm so happy to see him get
Speaker 2: his props here and get a new character, also a
Speaker 2: very cool character, mister terrific. I love this character. I
Speaker 2: think this is so cool and out there and I
Speaker 2: was absolutely not expecting this.
Speaker 1: Tell us about mister Terrific.
Speaker 2: So mister Terrific's really cool. He has a cool jacket
Speaker 2: that says fair play and it is a legacy mantle.
Speaker 2: So there's been multiple different versions. There was actually a
Speaker 2: really cool version in the CW played by Echo Kellam,
Speaker 2: who I really like Curtis Holt, but this is going
Speaker 2: to be the Michael Holt character created by John Ostrander.
Speaker 2: Tom Man Drake really cool, creative and he is like
Speaker 2: a super intelligent inventor. But he created the T spheres
Speaker 2: and that's his weapon. And he has this really iconic
Speaker 2: costume design that is like a leather a leather kind
Speaker 2: of racing jacket and he has the tea painted on
Speaker 2: his face. Now that arn't they used for this was
Speaker 2: by Alex Ross, which is the most probably the most
Speaker 2: famous art and I would say, yeah, this is the
Speaker 2: one where with the other characters. Don't quote me on this.
Speaker 2: This is a Timfoil hat theory.
Speaker 1: Oh right, okay, I'm excited.
Speaker 2: To me, this feels like James Gunn's doing a Kingdom
Speaker 2: Come movie. Like the roster of characters something that's so different.
Speaker 2: He's the what is the legacy of Superman? The movie
Speaker 2: is called Superman Legacy, Like, is the legacy that there's
Speaker 2: this threat that he cannot deal with, so other heroes
Speaker 2: have to come in and be involved in it. I
Speaker 2: just feel like to me, these kind of out there characters,
Speaker 2: especially like with Mysterrific and the next one's feeling Kingdom
Speaker 2: come ish. But I also I think that is a
Speaker 2: huge ambitious leap for the first movie in the DCU
Speaker 2: because it's essentially Elseworld. But I'm not gonna lie this
Speaker 2: is This's been giving me Kingdom Come vibes. With all
Speaker 2: these castings.
Speaker 1: Wow, well here is the Here is the final announced casting.
Speaker 1: Nathan Fillion, of of lots of things that you probably liked,
Speaker 1: including Firefly and more, will portray a Green Lantern specifically
Speaker 1: Guy Gardner. Is confirmed by James Gunn on Twitter, and
Speaker 1: this only bolsters my theory that a lot of these.
Speaker 2: People are gonna die.
Speaker 1: I first, Navidillion.
Speaker 2: Will always he was he was you know, the detachable
Speaker 2: kid aka like James Gunn's version of Arms full Off Boy.
Speaker 2: He died then you know, he played the the security
Speaker 2: guarding guardians of the Galaxy who was always ragging on
Speaker 2: the Pete Davidson character, like he didn't he didn't kind
Speaker 2: of have a main role. Nathan Fillion definitely doesn't seem
Speaker 2: like he's gonna survival, especially as Guy Gardner, who, like,
Speaker 2: I love Guy Gardner because he is the annoying green Lanton,
Speaker 2: But like when you think of Greenland and you think
Speaker 2: of Hal Jordan, John Stewart or Kyle Rayner, you know
Speaker 2: you don't think of ginger bang Guy, a Gardener who's
Speaker 2: always like fucking around and doing some rude shit and
Speaker 2: annoying everyone. So I would I like, I think you're right,
Speaker 2: I would not bet on him surviving the movie.
Speaker 1: Do you think he makes it twenty minutes?
Speaker 2: I wonder James Gunn has been doing a good job
Speaker 2: trying to cast Nathan philly In in a main superhero
Speaker 2: role for a long time. Nova was one of the
Speaker 2: ones that everyone was talking about. Allegedly there was going
Speaker 2: to be a poster of him and Guardians of the
Speaker 2: Galaxy Volume one where he was going to be wonder Man,
Speaker 2: like the kind of Hollywood wonder Man version. So maybe
Speaker 2: this is the time where James has found that perfect
Speaker 2: role for him and he can kind of pop up
Speaker 2: around the DC universe, but like, is it more likely
Speaker 2: that the first he's the first green matter and he dies? Yes?
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: All of these characters, of course, will appear in Superman Legacy,
Speaker 1: a movie that will increasingly.
Speaker 3: And we can't wait to see it.
Speaker 2: Two yes, two yes.
Speaker 1: Crazy stuff up. Next, Secret Invasions Episode three and four,
Speaker 1: we're stepping out of the airlock and into New York
Speaker 1: of nineteen ninety eight to talk about episode three, Betrayed
Speaker 1: of the Secret Invasion television program on the Disney Plus
Speaker 1: streaming network. Directed by Ali Slim, written by Roxanne Prides
Speaker 1: and Brian Tucker. We start with with Beato, who is
Speaker 1: maybe fury sales furious?
Speaker 2: How can I don't know. We're going to be talking
Speaker 2: about that in this episode. Do they have babies a human?
Speaker 2: Do they have humans that tune into scrolls? Unclear?
Speaker 1: It's a very it's a very comics thing that would happen. Yes,
Speaker 1: And we open on Bido. He's being questioned about why
Speaker 1: he specifically wants to be a warrior and the Scroll rebellion.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, we got to have a home, and
Speaker 1: the guy interviewing is like, great, good, answer. That is
Speaker 1: the extent of my question.
Speaker 2: Give me questions here.
Speaker 1: I would like to hand you the reins of a
Speaker 1: very very sensitive mission to destroy a plane, a UN
Speaker 1: plane that will be carrying multiple politicians, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: impersonate a soundback. Gravic is studying his super scroll machine.
Speaker 1: The council arrives. He's brought them into kind of like
Speaker 1: flex in front of them, in front of the machine,
Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, here's what's going on with my
Speaker 1: latest attack. Three scrolls dressed as soldiers and strike a
Speaker 1: UN facility and then world War three. That's it. That's
Speaker 1: the extent of the plan. And when World War three happens,
Speaker 1: then we unleash the super scrolls. And by the way,
Speaker 1: that's going to be all of us. Don't just think,
Speaker 1: because I've only got one of these machines and there's
Speaker 1: a million of us, that I'm not going to get
Speaker 1: to every single one of you and give you scroll powers.
Speaker 1: It's going to take a while, and we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to do some kind of lottery system with numbers or
Speaker 1: what because clearly the bandwidth is not there. I don't
Speaker 1: know how long this process takes.
Speaker 3: But we will all get super scroll powers.
Speaker 1: Okay, and be weapons of messages.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about this. Yeah, this is his plan to
Speaker 2: deal with the Avengers, et cetera.
Speaker 1: You could do if maybe you do ten a day.
Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean, I want to talk. Look, I understand
Speaker 2: that Marvel was in the Under a thousand Days. I
Speaker 2: understand Mavel was in a sticky situation here as they
Speaker 2: do not know who they're fantastic for are going to
Speaker 2: be yet, and they are not sure when they will
Speaker 2: be introduced, and they wanted to do the super Scroll.
Speaker 2: I would have said just wait, because look, let's be real.
Speaker 2: If you're going to go against you know, all these
Speaker 2: heroes in the MCU, there's so many of them. Just
Speaker 2: think to the end of end game, Like, think about
Speaker 2: how many people there, and this is the powers you have.
Speaker 2: Extremists grouped an ice demon.
Speaker 1: From low we haven't seen the icy.
Speaker 2: We haven't seen the icy yet, and then like one
Speaker 2: of the we one of Thanos's annoying children.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like, which I think is just strength.
Speaker 2: That's probably just like instead of the thing like, I
Speaker 2: just feel like those powers are not really they don't
Speaker 2: have the range. If you're going up against the Avengers,
Speaker 2: like I just.
Speaker 1: You know what you they can they can be like,
Speaker 1: oh well we tweaked it, like obviously the first this
Speaker 1: is this is super skrully.
Speaker 2: Like when this comes out, When this comes out, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be like Soldier Serum, like we got buck Is
Speaker 2: mele Arms just growing up.
Speaker 3: Everything they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be rolling out improvements obviously like once actually
Speaker 1: gonna be like, hey, update the firmware. We just found
Speaker 1: a new power guy. Clearly that's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: We flash back to New York City, nineteen ninety eight
Speaker 1: Young Fury. Younger Fury walks into a diner, perhaps after
Speaker 1: seeing one of Sam Jackson's own movies. Do you think
Speaker 1: younger Nick Fury did he like see pulp fiction?
Speaker 2: Definitely. I feel like a lot of his aesthetic is
Speaker 2: based on that. He's like, He's like, I've just been
Speaker 2: to see Sphere, the nineteen ninety eight Side Classic. Maybe
Speaker 2: I went to see the negotiate.
Speaker 1: Or so I could starring Sharon Stirp, had.
Speaker 2: To negotiate with this scroll.
Speaker 1: I believe it an adaptation of Michael Crichton novel Michael
Speaker 1: Crichton By the Way, shocking news. Six foot nine.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I think about it all the time.
Speaker 2: I legit, think about that all the time. You six
Speaker 2: foot nine and you road Jurassic Park.
Speaker 3: This is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: So young Nick Fury walks into a diner for a
Speaker 1: meeting with an agent and this woman starts flirting with him.
Speaker 1: Beautiful woman, and Fury seene really realizes that this beautiful
Speaker 1: woman is his Scroll agent Vary. She passes him some
Speaker 1: documents relating to Drake Coff, the project manager of the
Speaker 1: Russian Super Assassin Training centerstering are her ever heard of it?
Speaker 1: Thus bolstering are we were right eligible theory that everything
Speaker 1: related to Russia is Scroll infected. Fury quickly pivots to
Speaker 1: and I think, and I'm not sure this holds up
Speaker 1: to hr scrutiny. Immediately pivots to you looking good. Damn
Speaker 1: this whoever's face and whole bohole vibe that you've taken on.
Speaker 3: I find it easy on the eyes.
Speaker 2: I think this is the saber.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Fury is like, who can I ask?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Who the who? The lady? You may be killed or
Speaker 1: have tied up in a basement, or you know, whatever
Speaker 1: the case may be. Like who she is. Vara is like,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it, but how about this get to
Speaker 1: we could get to know each other, just you like
Speaker 1: the way I look? Maybe you know, we could spend
Speaker 1: some time together and you could get a get a
Speaker 1: closer look and if you're just like hr, I don't
Speaker 1: know this conversation, but yeah, we worked together and she's
Speaker 1: like yeah, but like we're secret agents, so technically everything's classified, so.
Speaker 2: We don't exist.
Speaker 1: We don't exist.
Speaker 3: It is like present day.
Speaker 1: Fury and Vara are enjoying a married couple breakfast which
Speaker 1: she cooked and it looks good, including coffee, And after
Speaker 1: cooking this beautiful breakfast, she's like, here's your question. Why
Speaker 1: haven't you been home in seven years?
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that because I assumed when she showed
Speaker 2: up Nick Furrey's secret wife. I was like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is so interesting. Everyone's been telling Nick Fury, oh you're washed.
Speaker 2: Why have you been hiding in space wherever? And I
Speaker 2: was like, no, Nick Fury's actually's been spending time with
Speaker 2: his secret squirrel wife. That's actually really romantic and scroll wife.
Speaker 2: But what she's been shape shifting, it's been really weird
Speaker 2: and freaky. I love it. I was like, this is
Speaker 2: actually an interesting complex layer to this new character. No,
Speaker 2: this man just disabeen for seven years. She also doesn't
Speaker 2: know where he's been, and they still married. She could
Speaker 2: have just filed him as a missing person. He would
Speaker 2: have been listed dead after seven years.
Speaker 1: And then fury has the gone. We unmitigated golf. This
Speaker 1: woman just cooked him breakfast, including coffee, accepted.
Speaker 2: Him back into house after seven says no issue.
Speaker 3: Back into the warmth of their home.
Speaker 2: She left wedding on the table for him after seven years.
Speaker 1: And then he immediately is like, have you been radicalized
Speaker 1: by Gravic? Let me ask you this, What the fuck
Speaker 1: have you been doing for seven years?
Speaker 3: If you've been talking to.
Speaker 1: Have you been talking gravit? You better let me know.
Speaker 3: It was is like, come on, Nick, where the fuck
Speaker 3: you've been going?
Speaker 2: I'm like, didn't she isn't she that same scroll that
Speaker 2: introduced him to graphic Maybe, like, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: she is chill with him. There's not very many scrolls
Speaker 2: in the world. Allegedly, actually because he come on just.
Speaker 1: As you talk to him, doesn't Yeah? Anyway, so Vera,
Speaker 1: you know, is rightfully annoyed at this and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: listen again, for the millionth time, we're gonna mention this
Speaker 1: in this episode, in this series, you got snapped, then
Speaker 1: you came back, then you went to space, and now
Speaker 1: you're here and you have all this unprocessed trauma, and
Speaker 1: so you know, it's very, very difficult to have any
Speaker 1: kind of quality time with you. And as for what
Speaker 1: I was doing for seven years, I became me the
Speaker 1: me I was before you.
Speaker 3: End quote quo.
Speaker 1: Then she gets a weird, mysterious phone call where she goes, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I'll talk to you. Yeah, yeah, right, okay,
Speaker 1: talk to you.
Speaker 2: Later, and.
Speaker 1: Or he's like who's that and she's like, none of
Speaker 1: your none of your fucking business.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not nothing to do with you made Okay.
Speaker 2: This relationship is very confusing to me. So they meet
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety eight, how long were they actually together for?
Speaker 2: Like he just breezed off to space. Like, also, she
Speaker 2: is a scroll. She could have just gone to space
Speaker 2: with him. We know there are scrolls on Seba, but
Speaker 2: she just chose to be chilling in that she was
Speaker 2: an agent.
Speaker 1: She was also an agent too. It's not like she
Speaker 1: was like a scroll.
Speaker 2: Why did she come like really, yeah, why did she
Speaker 2: become like a funny housewife? I mean, I respect that
Speaker 2: the house is, but like it's confusing.
Speaker 1: Here's the vibe I got so post nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1: I think they're together, but they're still doing this, at
Speaker 1: least in public this oh how are you? And what's
Speaker 1: going on? So it seems like they're not together, but
Speaker 1: they're just doing this kind of like role play thing
Speaker 1: where it's like their second date even though it's fifteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting, that's my theory.
Speaker 3: We got to New Rolls.
Speaker 1: Gravic wakes up Guya. He tells her that Broken was
Speaker 1: you know, the boiling blood guy, So you boiled his
Speaker 1: blood in his body? Was likely the guy who tipped
Speaker 1: off the cops to their plans. Was like guys like, well, listen,
Speaker 1: Brogan was weak and I will never fold under torture.
Speaker 1: And she hasn't had her blood.
Speaker 2: Try say the bo's been boiled by Olivia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then uh, and then she throws some further
Speaker 1: dirt on Broken's grave by saying it was Brogan. He's
Speaker 1: weaker than you thought. And then Graphic's like, okay, be
Speaker 1: ready tomorrow for a secret thing, and then next scene
Speaker 1: is tomorrow the secret thing.
Speaker 3: It's why why have.
Speaker 1: The line be like be ready tomorrow, just cut to
Speaker 1: the sea recurring problem as I just want to say, Guya.
Speaker 2: Is like a stone cold bitch. Yeah, she literally snitched.
Speaker 2: Thank you to the Discord members who pointed this out.
Speaker 2: Sheitched to Tayloss, who called the police on the safe house,
Speaker 2: and then Bergen was murdered for it. Bergen, who did
Speaker 2: not give up the safe house, by the way, boiled
Speaker 2: ship about him, like, oh he was so weak.
Speaker 1: I'm like this man, you gotta do what you got
Speaker 1: so that you could just snitch to your side. She's
Speaker 1: on our side. She's trying to stop World War three,
Speaker 1: we think, so. Uh. They go to the they're going
Speaker 1: to the thing. They're in a car. Gravi tells Guya
Speaker 1: that he's going to meet with her dad Taylor's and
Speaker 1: the subject of the conversation guess what it's you. And
Speaker 1: then while he's in the car, he extremely suspiciously and
Speaker 1: in a in a conversation that is clearly bait, is like, yes,
Speaker 1: submarine Neptune longitude latitude, Yes, that's exactly where we're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. Goodbye, then hangs up, and so she puts
Speaker 1: it on a phone, but then, smartly some good trade
Speaker 1: craft here, she doesn't text it. She hasn't passed manually
Speaker 1: to him, so it doesn't like trigger their communication security,
Speaker 1: which she actually does trigger later when she actually is
Speaker 1: called by her dad. Anyway, Gravic and Taylor sit down
Speaker 1: there in a museum. They have a little you know,
Speaker 1: graphics monologuing about the difference between statesmen and warriors, and
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna be the I'm gonna be a
Speaker 1: warrior statesman. I'm gonna get blood on my hands. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna build this fucking nation. Let's go to the cafe
Speaker 1: and have an espresso to talk about it. So they
Speaker 1: sit down and Taylor's is like, hey, I got a
Speaker 1: pitch for you. Stop doing terrorist shit. Oh why didn't
Speaker 1: anybody ever try this before? Has anybody ever gone to
Speaker 1: Graviic and just asked.
Speaker 2: Mersef, I'm sure you know what I think Nick has
Speaker 2: probably done at some point is probably done at some point.
Speaker 2: I think Guya's probably gonna some Gravic. You gotta stop, Taylos,
Speaker 2: was this really your best plan? You were like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna buy that a price museum prepackaged sandwich.
Speaker 1: And sit down and I'm gonna express grab stop.
Speaker 2: And what do you think he is?
Speaker 1: Grabbic is like, I'm gonna continue killing. I'm gonna continue
Speaker 1: doing terrorist stuff. And by the way, doing terrorists. It
Speaker 1: is why I'm on the council and you're not on
Speaker 1: the council. You fucking lose her and ps, I got
Speaker 1: your daughter a killer anytime I want. And Taylos of
Speaker 1: course loses it at this and he is about you
Speaker 1: attack Grabby, but then he realized, oh ship, I'm surrounded
Speaker 1: by scrolls.
Speaker 2: By the way, very missed the smith from the matrix, right.
Speaker 1: But also well, it saves assets and it saves cost
Speaker 1: bud and then and also, uh, you know, it's interesting
Speaker 1: that Taylos and other scrolls don't have you. I think
Speaker 1: there'd be is that like not a scroll or just
Speaker 1: like an extreme paranoia to be like, are all these
Speaker 1: people's scrolls?
Speaker 2: And it's weird. Their own power that they understand is
Speaker 2: like so unbelievably impactful, but they just never expect other
Speaker 2: people to be using it. It's definitely an odd narrative choice. Also,
Speaker 2: I feel like Taylos, he's not really the he's not
Speaker 2: really doing his best secret agent in here, like when
Speaker 2: he's like, I could kill your daughter, and instead of
Speaker 2: Tailo's being like, oh, that's just something dumb that someone
Speaker 2: likes to saying, he probably like gets up in his
Speaker 2: face in the middle of the museum cafe where some
Speaker 2: grannies are just trying to chill and he's like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna fucking kill you. It's just like my guy, like
Speaker 2: take it down a notch, chill out.
Speaker 1: Taylo's is like, Hey, I don't know if you've thought
Speaker 1: this through, but like World War three, I think it
Speaker 1: would be very very destructive.
Speaker 2: Well more is bad.
Speaker 1: And also, and I think this is a good point.
Speaker 1: It would be destructive to us because of course the
Speaker 1: human superheroes will get involved, and we'd probably be driven
Speaker 1: to the brink of a destruct of extinction. And uh,
Speaker 1: the humans are much more formidable than you think. And yes,
Speaker 1: they are very disunited right now and they're at each
Speaker 1: other's throats and it certainly looks bad politicization and YadA
Speaker 1: YadA YadA, But if an outside enemy comes, guess what,
Speaker 1: they're gonna fucking unite. So think about it and then
Speaker 1: Taylos also says there's a silent majority of Skrulls who
Speaker 1: agree with me, and we're all gonna work against you.
Speaker 1: Don't ask me to name them right now, but they're there.
Speaker 1: Don't ask for it. I yeah, I know you have
Speaker 1: a full like operational colony in Russia of all the
Speaker 1: people who agree with you. But I have like an
Speaker 1: email list or something of that. But there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people. It's it's like, certainly a majority of a
Speaker 1: million that are here. And don't you dare fucking talk
Speaker 1: about my daughter. And he puts and he gets grabic
Speaker 1: around the neck and stabs him through the hand and
Speaker 1: then just fucking pieces out. The bodyguards are like, just
Speaker 1: let this one happen because it's gonna be cool. And
Speaker 1: and then Gravit pulls the pulls the knife out of
Speaker 1: his hand and guess what, it's extremists, the extremist part
Speaker 1: of the super scroll procedure. And he just like fucking
Speaker 1: heals up. They perfected it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they perfected it off screen. Sorry to the Liliens.
Speaker 2: It kind of Iron Man three.
Speaker 1: It kind of makes sense in the sense that, you know,
Speaker 1: shouts to old George Killian, but he was a little
Speaker 1: bit off his rocker and I and they had and
Speaker 1: they're you know, they have theoretically access to better technology.
Speaker 3: They have like spaceships and ship they smart people have.
Speaker 2: Two human scientists who are helping them.
Speaker 1: I will say, hell, I do like your reads, and
Speaker 1: their genetic their genetic makeup is obviously very very different,
Speaker 1: so they can probably like.
Speaker 2: Your read where it's just like this is a fun
Speaker 2: like du x making for the MC and I'll scrolls
Speaker 2: this ma. If there's a problem. The girls can fix.
Speaker 2: Girls scrolls this ma. It's happened in the Girl's note.
Speaker 1: Later, at a bar over a traditional English breakfast delicious,
Speaker 1: Fury and Taylors meet up. Taylos is like, you know,
Speaker 1: and this is the real merit he.
Speaker 2: Want to see?
Speaker 1: This is the real one. Yes, every time they're together,
Speaker 1: I'm like, great, just let these guys rot. He's you know.
Speaker 1: Taylors is like, you only ever want to talk about business,
Speaker 1: like you never want to talk about me. I just
Speaker 1: stabbed Gravic through the hen and tried to pitch him
Speaker 1: on not doing the terrorism stuff. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about that because it was it was. I
Speaker 1: ended up with a lot of egg on my face
Speaker 1: and now I just want to eat my English breakfast.
Speaker 1: And Furious is like, okay, got it, but listen, I
Speaker 1: have info about a rebel scroll posing as a very
Speaker 1: highly placed US political figure. And then Taylos is like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: why don't you why can't you ever say that you
Speaker 1: just like need help, that you're you are kind of
Speaker 1: washed now and you need me, and so can I
Speaker 1: just hear it like that, Nick Fury needs help from me,
Speaker 1: Taylor's and think Furious like, I need you, I can do.
Speaker 2: It, yeah, and he whispers I thought was actually very
Speaker 2: but he also like whispers and his an like this
Speaker 2: is definitely the kink of that marriage. Like Nick's like
Speaker 2: comes up behind him and he's.
Speaker 1: Like, I need help.
Speaker 2: I need your help, Tylos.
Speaker 1: Taylo's then shares the info that Gaya passed to her
Speaker 1: on the burner phone. Fury calls sonya uh, who is
Speaker 1: just being wonderful in her offense, ask and I do
Speaker 1: miss her too, And she's asking and he's asking about Neptune,
Speaker 1: which is a British submarine, and so he's like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to talk to you because
Speaker 1: you bug my owl you son of a bitch, and
Speaker 1: now I have to put a little ipatch or the
Speaker 1: owl like you and Nick says, hey, gravics try and
Speaker 1: start World War three, So could you like stop fucking
Speaker 1: around with the owl and and talk to me about
Speaker 1: like who the commander of this sub bas is? Like
Speaker 1: do you just have that in of this like one
Speaker 1: of the military many military bases like around that you
Speaker 1: just like know the man. She's like, yeah, I got this,
Speaker 1: Captain Robert Fairbanks importsman.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I feel like she gave it.
Speaker 2: She can. I just say, Nick Fury is like on
Speaker 2: the run. He is suspected of being part of a
Speaker 2: terrorist attack in Russia that was done for the American government,
Speaker 2: and he.
Speaker 3: Is seen on video shooting Maria.
Speaker 2: And she's just like, yeah, you can have it. Like
Speaker 2: she's like that word she is this guy he is.
Speaker 1: He is the main suspect in the jack rubying of
Speaker 1: Maria also and it's clearly him.
Speaker 2: And I also just say as well, like she knows
Speaker 2: that scrolls exist, so like how does she know this
Speaker 2: this salmon not a scrowl.
Speaker 1: She's that's a fucking because the scroll wouldn't know. Well,
Speaker 1: they don't know about the mind reading shit, but like
Speaker 1: the scroll wouldn't know about the bug. So but then
Speaker 1: she brought us. It's like, you know, they're very tricky anyway.
Speaker 1: Taylo's uh and what is a very very funny exchange
Speaker 1: that I think this could have been more of this.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1: Taylor's is like, I don't get what why do you
Speaker 1: guys like dogs? Like so you just like walk around
Speaker 1: and pick up their ship and it's like, man, work
Speaker 1: this into a tight five tailos. I think you have
Speaker 1: a second actor stand up, you know, scrawls be like
Speaker 1: it could be, it could be good material for you.
Speaker 1: Fury is like, you know what. I know that we've
Speaker 1: had a rocky relationship of late, but in this metaphor,
Speaker 1: you are my dogs and that's why did why did
Speaker 1: he say that.
Speaker 2: He's like like your ship for nineteen years years? And
Speaker 2: like that's Fury, why did you say that? I thought
Speaker 2: you're trying to be friends with him? Again?
Speaker 1: What is cos Taylo's then makes a very very good
Speaker 1: case that hey, guess what, you wouldn't be where you are,
Speaker 1: which is clear on the run, but I'm talking about like, yeah,
Speaker 1: as director of Nazi shit, and you were when you
Speaker 1: were at Saber and when you were the fucking director
Speaker 1: of Shield and all in putting the Avengers skilled. You
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been in that position if not for the
Speaker 1: very very important and unheralded work that me and my
Speaker 1: nineteen other scrull buddies did in disguise at various points
Speaker 1: along the way of your journey. So acknowledge that.
Speaker 2: Nick Fury also, like, can we talk about the political
Speaker 2: ramifications of that? So Nick Fury just had like weird
Speaker 2: undercover scroll spy slash sassa who were just like doing
Speaker 2: all kinds of crazy shit like planning world events like
Speaker 2: shifting the state of history and politics. That seems like
Speaker 2: they just blew over that. I would like to I
Speaker 2: would like to see that some more details on what
Speaker 2: to cut.
Speaker 1: And also every and everybody missed Hydra like like the
Speaker 1: scrolls also credit any credit because honestly, the litany of
Speaker 1: people Peggy Carter, fucking Captain America, uh, the Agent forty two, like,
Speaker 1: the amount of bias star Tony Stark's dad, like fucking
Speaker 1: Hank Pim, the amount of very very very very very
Speaker 1: smart people, Taylo's all the scrolls who.
Speaker 2: Scrolls when they like was almost shape into people obvious
Speaker 2: point and they just didn't know, Like I refuse.
Speaker 1: To believe anyway they missed it.
Speaker 3: Fury and Taylors arrive at Captain Bobb's.
Speaker 1: Taylo's wants to go in and disguise, but that immediately
Speaker 1: gets blown up and so then Fury has just kill
Speaker 1: like half a dozen scrolls. They get in Nick Furi's,
Speaker 1: you know, going up the stairs, Taylos is already up there.
Speaker 1: He gets a phone call and it's Taylos and Tails
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, I'm up here, coming up, but he
Speaker 1: understands that no Bob has Taylo's prisoner. He gets up
Speaker 1: there and yes, that is in case Bob has Taylos
Speaker 1: gun to his head. But Nick is fucking ruthless. He
Speaker 1: comes in with Bob's potentially human son, the real Bob Zachary.
Speaker 1: He has a gun to scrawl.
Speaker 3: I will Seem's upset.
Speaker 2: So is that Scrollbob's son is scroll Bob just feeling
Speaker 2: the human emotions of human Bob. He's so lost in
Speaker 2: the Bob Sauce questions.
Speaker 1: I think, I think what happens, and we've seen this
Speaker 1: kind of happen in the comics right where the scroll
Speaker 1: is doing it for so.
Speaker 2: Long, ye, yeah, well you can almost forget your.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think that you know, potentially Bob's been doing
Speaker 1: it in a while, and when they take the memories
Speaker 1: out of Bob and put it into fake Bob, I
Speaker 1: think if you live it for long enough, then some
Speaker 1: of the emotions clearly cross over, because you're absolutely right,
Speaker 1: fake Bob is lost in the real Bob sauce and
Speaker 1: was like, Zachary, I don't want anything bad to happen
Speaker 1: to Zachary because he's not my son, and I'm about
Speaker 1: to help start a war that's gonna kill billions, But
Speaker 1: this fucking human kid who's not my son, please don't
Speaker 1: kill kill him.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 1: Fury's like, well, listen, I'm gonna kill this kid's not
Speaker 1: your son unless you call off the strike on the
Speaker 1: plane that will be launched from a submarine that is
Speaker 1: under your command. And then all of a sudden, Fury
Speaker 1: is like, oh, lightning bulb, Tailo's just fucking impersonate Bob.
Speaker 1: And then Taylor's is like, I can't because Bob knows
Speaker 1: the super secret abort code that we could never ever
Speaker 1: figure out. Just like, we need him to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile in the sub the missile control people are like,
Speaker 1: should we really.
Speaker 2: Do this to bomb the UN plane? You know this
Speaker 2: seems weird, as you know, all politicians regularly travel in
Speaker 2: one single air bound vehicle for safety reasons, you know,
Speaker 2: much much harder to kill them all that way.
Speaker 1: So Fury goes medieval starts torturing fake Captain Bob uh
Speaker 1: and it looks like the bomb is really Messel is
Speaker 1: really gonna get launched. Then Bob makes the cardinal mistake,
Speaker 1: absolutely the biggest mistake you can do around Taylors, which
Speaker 1: you talk shit about Guya and so then shoot bomb where.
Speaker 3: So okay, now Bob is dead.
Speaker 1: And then sorry called Gaya and he's like, Guya, listen,
Speaker 1: sorry to blow your cover like this right now. Because
Speaker 1: as he's calling her, the scroll communications security people are like,
Speaker 1: oh fuck are communications with crack. Taylor's is like, listen,
Speaker 1: I need you to find Captain Bob's human body in
Speaker 1: the fucking body storage and I need you to like
Speaker 1: fast forward through his memories and get me the aboard
Speaker 1: password so we can stop World War three. She's like Okay,
Speaker 1: she goes down there. She she you know, takes out
Speaker 1: the guards, gets into the fucking human uh cold storage
Speaker 1: finds Bob is scrolling through his ball like his Blu Ray.
Speaker 1: And then guess what, Bob, who is in this like
Speaker 1: very very very sensitive military intelligence role commanding like a
Speaker 1: whole submarine wing that has the power to launch nukes.
Speaker 1: And his like aboard password is Zachary his son's name.
Speaker 2: Unrealistic?
Speaker 3: Got this, kid, Bob, why don't you just pick one? Two, three,
Speaker 3: four by?
Speaker 2: My favorite yea on. My favorite thing about this is
Speaker 2: like they like use it as like a really emotional moment,
Speaker 2: Like Taylor's is like it's his son's name, and I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: that's not emotional. That's dumb, Like he's bringing his son
Speaker 2: at risk. He couldn't just go on the internet and
Speaker 2: right password creator, Like he couldn't just google one of
Speaker 2: those good passwords. I'm also pretty sure that if you
Speaker 2: have a nuclear sub situation under your command, they probably
Speaker 2: give you a password or a code. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's just your son's name anyway.
Speaker 1: And then Taylor's is like, guy, and now run, We've
Speaker 1: done it. We've stopped w War three. Taylor's calls in
Speaker 1: the abort uh and no World War three. Later, Fury
Speaker 1: asks Taylo's, Hey, the quick question, why didn't you join Gravic?
Speaker 1: You know, after all, Gravic does have a point, like
Speaker 1: I haven't done jack fucking shit to get violent, right,
Speaker 1: and so like I do, I'll take that l like
Speaker 1: I get it. There's a million scrolls here just like
Speaker 1: kicking rocks without anything to do, and yeah, that might
Speaker 1: have been my fault.
Speaker 3: And Taylo's is like, I didn't.
Speaker 1: Because I'm friends with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're married.
Speaker 1: We're a married couple, and I love you. Meanwhile, Gravic
Speaker 1: intercepts Guya before she can get away, and it turns
Speaker 1: out the whole thing was a was a Tyrian Lanisters
Speaker 1: lose to flush out the trader in their midst, and
Speaker 1: Gravihic shoots Gaya. Sarah Vera then gets a text message
Speaker 1: and hurriedly leaves the house. She hits to the train station,
Speaker 1: then to a safe deposit box in the train station
Speaker 1: which contains a gun and a big envelope, and she
Speaker 1: gets a call and she's like, okay, blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: I need to speak to Gravic and the person's like, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you're talking to me. End of the episode.
Speaker 2: Rip to Gia. Wow, I can't believe they fringe two
Speaker 2: women in the show. Well, I can believe it, But
Speaker 2: is Guya really dead? I guess we'll have to talk
Speaker 2: about episodes week, same Bat time, same BAT channel.
Speaker 1: X ray Vision will be back, and we're back onto
Speaker 1: episode four Beloved. Directed by Ali Slim, written by Brian
Speaker 1: Tucker Guy. It comes back to life having secretly given
Speaker 1: herself the super scroll procedure off score. When this how well,
Speaker 1: I guess just earlier I would I wanted to see
Speaker 1: her like like sit in the chair and then take
Speaker 1: like a bad handle and like push a button out.
Speaker 2: Emily saw this thing one. It was always surrounded by
Speaker 2: super scionists and it was fucking huge, and it seemed
Speaker 2: like you needed multiple people to do it. She almost
Speaker 2: got caught when she was just looking at like an
Speaker 2: old nineties mac. I'm like, how did she do this
Speaker 2: without getting caught? And isn't that so convenient? Also, I
Speaker 2: just find it really funny, like the way extremist works
Speaker 2: for the Squirrels is like so sick, Like she just
Speaker 2: got shot like two times in the chest and it's
Speaker 2: just like fine, I'm living. Not a problem.
Speaker 1: Not a problem. We go to Paris twenty twelve. Vera
Speaker 1: and Fury are having dinner and it is sometime after
Speaker 1: the Battle of New York in the public review of
Speaker 1: the existence of the Avengers. Vera's like, I bet you
Speaker 1: this guy that I know put the Avengers together. Seems
Speaker 1: like something he would do. And Fury is like, what,
Speaker 1: I that's interesting. Tell me about this man. I don't
Speaker 1: have anything to do with it, but I'd like to
Speaker 1: know more about this guy. And then Vera says, well,
Speaker 1: this guy that I know, he believes that, you know,
Speaker 1: the world's a dangerous place, and that the week need
Speaker 1: to be protected by heroes, and those heroes need to
Speaker 1: be put together and they need to be good people
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm reading this Raymond Carver book, and Raymond Carver great
Speaker 1: great writer of short stories. Pick up any Raymond Carver collection.
Speaker 1: They're very easy to read. Some of the stories are
Speaker 1: like three or four pages. He was also a poet,
Speaker 1: was also an alcoholic, but a really really great writer. Anyway.
Speaker 3: She then is like, here's a poem that I like.
Speaker 1: And basically what you need to know is it conveys
Speaker 1: her love for him.
Speaker 3: We go to the president, Roady meets.
Speaker 1: Vera in a church and it's clear that this is
Speaker 1: the person that at least she's been having some phone
Speaker 1: calls with. And Roady is like, Yeah, I fired Freury
Speaker 1: and it was great, and I do it again. I'd
Speaker 1: do it every single day of the week if I'd
Speaker 1: hire him back and then fire him just because I
Speaker 1: love play. And here's what I want you to do,
Speaker 1: and what you've been working on. You're working on assassinating
Speaker 1: Nick Fury, and I want you to continue working on that.
Speaker 1: I want you to do. I had many, many other
Speaker 1: opportunities to do it and just been at the house, But
Speaker 1: do it now.
Speaker 2: I feel like it is very over the top planning
Speaker 2: to like leave a gun in like a safe deposit box.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was some kind of like you know,
Speaker 2: secret facility or anything like you could have just given
Speaker 2: her a gun another time, like she didn't need to
Speaker 2: go there. You could have left the gun at the house.
Speaker 2: She should have had a gun in the house this
Speaker 2: whole time. She's married to Nick Fury, so she probably
Speaker 2: owns it to be Why does it have to be
Speaker 2: a bad gun? But the whole thing. I have questions
Speaker 2: about it also. So they meet in nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 2: they get together, at some point, they get married. But
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, how long has he been away that
Speaker 2: she didn't know about the Avengers initiative? This is what
Speaker 2: kind of because.
Speaker 1: He's been, He's just been. He's just been. You know,
Speaker 1: I would imagine if you if you look at like
Speaker 1: the Avengers initiative, let's say, like the run from like
Speaker 1: Iron Man two to the Avengers, he was probably away
Speaker 1: for like a solid year and a half to two years.
Speaker 2: I feel like she could have just gone and send
Speaker 2: him in a hotel Marcket for like one day.
Speaker 1: Just like in a Hellic carrier.
Speaker 2: He's just living on the head Carrier and annoying the Avengers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like there's many ways that she could have been,
Speaker 2: like assassinated him. When she's cooking him all those nice breakfasts,
Speaker 2: is he and she could have dropped, I mean, bury
Speaker 2: him under your very nice mid century house, or just
Speaker 2: like you know, kill him and then call the police
Speaker 2: and be like, oh my god, the escaped maniac Nick
Speaker 2: Fury who killed Maria hallis here, and I killed myself
Speaker 2: in self defense. No one knows we're married, so there's
Speaker 2: no way for you guys to connect us together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's no. It's got to be the gun
Speaker 1: that she has in the safe deposit from the very
Speaker 1: very the very very swank safe deposit box in the
Speaker 1: train station. I know.
Speaker 2: I would like, is this meant to be like a
Speaker 2: special like Switzerland bank or is it just in the
Speaker 2: train station? There's a guy here with like he's like
Speaker 2: a butler, Like I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I was like, did she go to a bank? But
Speaker 1: then I listened to the to the like the foley
Speaker 1: and they mixed in like a train sound station sound also,
Speaker 1: so it's clear that she was just like under the
Speaker 1: train station.
Speaker 2: The in the envelope. I felt like that was unnecessary.
Speaker 2: I was like, the gun is just the gun. There's
Speaker 2: the gun. Is the gun? Is the gun? But yeah,
Speaker 2: so scroll Roady is like, you go to kill Nick Fury, babe,
Speaker 2: it's time kill him.
Speaker 1: You gotta do it.
Speaker 3: I could have done it.
Speaker 1: I had a meeting with him, but I want you
Speaker 1: to want Vera then tries to She's like, listen, can
Speaker 1: I be frank with you. I've had I've had a
Speaker 1: dinner and a and a bractast now with Nick since
Speaker 1: he's been bad.
Speaker 3: And this guy is not worth fucking war. He's haven't watched.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows that he's tired.
Speaker 1: He can't do anything. He cannot do anything. And Rody's like, no, babe,
Speaker 1: you gotta kill him. She's like, okay, guy, Arena, it's
Speaker 1: with Taylo's and Dad's mad that Guya got legit murdered
Speaker 1: Gravic and she says, don't worry about it. I'm good now.
Speaker 1: I got the fucking super scroll juice in me, and
Speaker 1: I'm fighting for you and I love you kind of
Speaker 1: the same reason that you're using to fight for Nick Fury,
Speaker 1: because you love him and I love you. But also like,
Speaker 1: now that we've gone to the stage where like I've
Speaker 1: been shot and murdered in cold blood, could you come
Speaker 1: up with like a planet TikTok get us to the
Speaker 1: finish of this thing, because it really feels like you
Speaker 1: too old oldies, you too fucking boom up and just
Speaker 1: like kind of by the by the seat of your
Speaker 1: pants here, and.
Speaker 3: You know, what are we gonna do?
Speaker 1: How are we gonna find it? Like an actual planet,
Speaker 1: a place to live and Taylos is like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Here's here's what I'm thinking. Okay, I don't know about
Speaker 1: the planet, but just follow follow this train of thought.
Speaker 1: Here we save the world from World War three. We
Speaker 1: go to the humans and we go, hey, we saved
Speaker 1: the world from World War three. How about an amnesty
Speaker 1: to continue living amongst you in secret? And guys like
Speaker 1: what like I want to look like a scroll naturally,
Speaker 1: Like I want to walk around my house in scroll
Speaker 1: skin and eat scroll food. I don't want to like
Speaker 1: take like be legally sanctioned to live here, but have
Speaker 1: to live is whoever this body?
Speaker 2: Why hasn't Tamos already saved the world like thirty times
Speaker 2: at this point, Like couldn't he already have that? And
Speaker 2: also like he's missing the whole point of leverage. You
Speaker 2: can't like say, oh, we saved the world already. Can
Speaker 2: you give us something and return? The President's gonna be like,
Speaker 2: fuck you, you already saved it, Like keep staying in secret. Also,
Speaker 2: why are you here? He's lived on us for thirty years.
Speaker 2: He should know this by now.
Speaker 1: You gotta go to them like with the MISSI launch
Speaker 1: and say hey, I could stop this. But like give me.
Speaker 2: Your sign a little paper right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do it, and then I'll save the world. He
Speaker 1: just needs a good agent. Anyway, He's like, here's what
Speaker 1: and and so that is my plan is amnesty. And
Speaker 1: by by the way, just be patient. I know you
Speaker 1: want to live in a home bland of your own.
Speaker 1: And I know it's been thirty plus years because Nick
Speaker 1: is just fucking dragging.
Speaker 3: Out, but let's admit it.
Speaker 1: Five years of that he was, he was morasing he
Speaker 1: so so you know, let's just be patient, and let's
Speaker 1: just be patient about it. Vera returns home and Nick
Speaker 1: is there. Nick says, hey, I'm just dropping in to
Speaker 1: make you some tea and then I'm gonna get out
Speaker 1: of here. But before I get out of here, we
Speaker 1: got to break up because our relationship is the biggest
Speaker 1: mistake I ever made. And you're an alien and I'm
Speaker 1: a human. We should have known this was never going
Speaker 1: to fucking work out. All our dates are super weird
Speaker 1: where it was like where you know, we're having dates
Speaker 1: that are fifteen years apart, but we're having like versions
Speaker 1: of the same conversation, like this is not going anywhere. Also,
Speaker 1: you've been hired by Roady to kill me. I know
Speaker 1: that because I was listening to that conversation somehow, and
Speaker 1: that's not much. I trust you.
Speaker 3: We are we are done.
Speaker 1: But before we're done, just tell me, like how you
Speaker 1: came to look like this extremely fine ass and so
Speaker 1: Fair is like, well, this is the body of a doctor.
Speaker 1: She had terminal heart disease and we were friends, and
Speaker 1: I go to visit her, and but but you know,
Speaker 1: all the time while I was just visiting her, I
Speaker 1: was also stressed out because like I had this job
Speaker 1: which was to like get close to you and spy
Speaker 1: on you. And then so then eventually, when she was
Speaker 1: about to check out, I was like, hey, do I
Speaker 1: have your consent to to impersonate you in the afterlife,
Speaker 1: like with your whole body and everything and maybe not memories,
Speaker 1: but certainly the way you look and everything. And the
Speaker 1: dying doctor was like, yes, but you have to agree
Speaker 1: to three conditions. She's like, okay, what are they? One?
Speaker 1: Burial at sea? Okay, easy, no problem. Check. Two you
Speaker 1: have to continue as you impersonate me, and what are
Speaker 1: we doing with the death certificate?
Speaker 3: And don't work.
Speaker 1: You need to continue to pretend to be me to
Speaker 1: my parents and be a good daughter that she's like, okay,
Speaker 1: she's like easy, no problem, and then three never hurt Nick?
Speaker 3: Why how does she know?
Speaker 1: Nick? I guess she's she must have been close to me.
Speaker 2: She did say like the way that she convinced I
Speaker 2: was asked if she wanted to fall in love, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't really help.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, I see how what are you
Speaker 1: was gonna fall in out?
Speaker 2: I don't know behavior And guess what she did say.
Speaker 1: That's right by trying to assassinate him, so whoops. And
Speaker 1: then they both recite the Carver poem to each other
Speaker 1: and at the end of it, they draw their pistol
Speaker 1: and shoot, and it's actually a very very tense and
Speaker 1: exciting scene and I was like, whoa, this is juicy.
Speaker 1: But then you come back and they both missed on purpose.
Speaker 1: They shot to the side, and then she asked a
Speaker 1: very natural question, was like, hey, so if if if
Speaker 1: I was fully scrolled, would we have been together? And
Speaker 1: then Nick is like maybe, not going to answer, and
Speaker 1: then he finally is like, I guess we'll never know,
Speaker 1: and yeah, and then guess what we go to We
Speaker 1: go to Rody's condo, where he is indeed a fucking scroll.
Speaker 3: Everyone, and guess what now you know?
Speaker 1: And guess what. Fury is broken into the condo and
Speaker 1: he's got a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle, a very
Speaker 1: very very very rare and very very expensive uh brand
Speaker 1: of bourbon that is released but then released in extremely
Speaker 1: small numbers. And if you find it, it's got a
Speaker 1: lot of connoisseurs and it is delicious. Uh. And the
Speaker 1: and the and the bottles are extreme pricey. Anyway, of course,
Speaker 1: Fury has the Fury is like, listen, I know you're
Speaker 1: a scroll. Uh. And I will not reveal to the
Speaker 1: world that you were a scroll if you give me
Speaker 1: my job back. And Scrody is like, no, h because
Speaker 1: let me just show you this video. And then he
Speaker 1: plays the video of of Nick Fury Gravic as Nick Fury,
Speaker 1: Jack Ruby and Maria Hill and he says, look at that.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna look at that. They're gonna go that could
Speaker 1: only be Nick Fury. It's him. Yes, he looks older
Speaker 1: and he looks more washed, but that's one hundred percent
Speaker 1: of him. Now get out of here before I defenestrate you,
Speaker 1: which means to throw up window. Fun word. But guess
Speaker 1: what the Pappy contained like nano trackers, and so from
Speaker 1: that's like some ship that like fucking Tony Stark had
Speaker 1: an a warehouse or something. Just and so now Taylors
Speaker 1: and Nick know where Rody's going, which guess what they
Speaker 1: should have put two in new together. But it's going.
Speaker 1: It's Roady is going to be part of the attack
Speaker 1: on President Ristin's convoy as he leaves Air Force One.
Speaker 1: So the President gets into his limo and there's a
Speaker 1: long convoy. They're heading to the summit with the Russians
Speaker 1: to head off, uh, you know, a potential World War
Speaker 1: III because of the attack that Gravic formerly launched in Moscow.
Speaker 1: And guess what here comes Gravic's attack. Helicopters, they're launching missiles.
Speaker 1: The fucking Ristin's limo gets turned over. Ristin's fucking Custy's
Speaker 1: strapped into a seat. Gravic and this and the scrolls
Speaker 1: are they repel down and they're killing everybody and they're
Speaker 1: speaking Russians. They're like, oh shit, it's the fucking Russian fury.
Speaker 1: And Taylor's spring into action. They like drive, they just drive.
Speaker 2: They drive through the west that security for Air Force one,
Speaker 2: This Rody is literally like one. I just want to say,
Speaker 2: I realized this as we're talking. Yet, did they really
Speaker 2: need to put like nano trackers in the.
Speaker 1: Whiskey because you're just like.
Speaker 2: The President, bro He's always with the President. That's why
Speaker 2: the scroll is Brody like, you did not need a
Speaker 2: tracker for that. And then yeah, and then Brody didn't
Speaker 2: thing to just like add some more security or like
Speaker 2: the American government didn't think to Tellos and Nick Fury
Speaker 2: to old guys. They just drive onto the runway like.
Speaker 3: Hi, Yeah, but Nick is Nick.
Speaker 1: Everybody says he's watched, but he's clearly still got some
Speaker 1: of that old you know, guile because he starts turning
Speaker 1: the tide and when Gravic lins of Fury is there,
Speaker 1: he's like, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna be groot, now pull out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to pull out the super Soldier, the
Speaker 1: super Skrull powers. Taylo's is hit because Gravic is like
Speaker 1: fucking somebody with somebody shoot sick of Taylor. Taylos is
Speaker 1: trying to use his scroll strength to like punch out
Speaker 1: Ristin's fucking very good.
Speaker 2: I have to say I can open the He look
Speaker 2: like he had any old mind strength I have the way?
Speaker 2: It took too long? Should it?
Speaker 1: Just so he's trying to punch it, So he gets
Speaker 1: shot as he's trying to punch it out right, and
Speaker 1: then because he's wounded, he now he starts losing control
Speaker 1: of his form. He's like fucking turning half scroll. And
Speaker 1: Fury has to like stop various American Secret Service agents
Speaker 1: from killing Tailo's because they're like, oh shit, there's an
Speaker 1: alien here. One of the aliens is here. Taylo's then,
Speaker 1: you know, bleeding out, manages to break the window on
Speaker 1: Ritzan's car, and then Fury is like, okay, we're surrounded
Speaker 1: by fifty Secret Service agents, but I a seventy year
Speaker 1: old old man with a bad knee and one eye.
Speaker 1: I am going to carry the president to safety.
Speaker 3: Taylor's like a.
Speaker 2: Hundred charges that with like AK forty seven's.
Speaker 1: Taylo's, you stay here and bleed and I'll I'll be
Speaker 1: right back after I carry the president. And so Fury
Speaker 1: leaves to go get Ritz into his special range rover
Speaker 1: that is there somehow. And while he's doing that, guess what,
Speaker 1: of course, Gravic, pretending to be a soldier is.
Speaker 3: Like, hey, I'll helpe you.
Speaker 2: You need to help.
Speaker 1: Buddy picks up Tailos and in front of Fury, who
Speaker 1: realizes like, oh fuck, I got a stupid thing, which
Speaker 1: is leave my best friend, married partner, my partner in
Speaker 1: marriage and in the midst of scrolls, and now a
Speaker 1: scrolls got him and it's got to be gravic, and
Speaker 1: yes it was, and fucking gravit guts Taylos and Fury
Speaker 1: shoots him in the head. But guess what the extremist
Speaker 1: thing they really they again.
Speaker 2: They have perfected it. This should just comes his head.
Speaker 1: Just grows back. What And then Taylo's I guess.
Speaker 2: He's he's just laid the floor. Nick Ferry just left
Speaker 2: him on the floor so he could take dumb At Mularney.
Speaker 2: I agree, I would also save dumb At mulroney, take
Speaker 2: him into a special rain driver for the president. And
Speaker 2: Taylor's is that he's on the floor. Is he dead? Jason,
Speaker 2: you have a good theory about what mayica.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I feel very very sure that the
Speaker 1: following is gonna happen. We've already got Guya as super
Speaker 1: super scroll number one of the good guys, right, super
Speaker 1: scroll number two is one hundred percent gonna be Taylos
Speaker 1: because Guya knows how to run the machinery.
Speaker 2: Cleary, cant imagine how much I need to run on
Speaker 2: someone else, not just yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's gonna go. No, my dad, we can't
Speaker 1: let him die like this. I know how we can
Speaker 1: save him. We can go and then they're gonna give
Speaker 1: him the super scroll procedure. And then it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Taylos with the super scroll powers, alongside his beloved daughter
Speaker 1: who has been at times a strange from Guya, and
Speaker 1: together with their newfound powers, they are gonna defeat Gravic.
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna be.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be episode five. I agree.
Speaker 1: Let's see Rody's scroll? How long? Good question?
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 1: The Battle of of Avengers comp scrolling it.
Speaker 2: I would love that they would, you know, I feel
Speaker 2: about it. This should I don't think they should have
Speaker 2: called a secret invasion. I think they should have if
Speaker 2: they were going to call it that, I think they
Speaker 2: should have played closer. I think this version of Rody
Speaker 2: the way they got Don playing him, which is really fun,
Speaker 2: But like I think this is new. I think all
Speaker 2: the scrolls we see is like a relatively new situation.
Speaker 2: I don't. I think Rody and Tony they had their
Speaker 2: little relationship, they were living their life. This explains probably
Speaker 2: why Roady doesn't have any leg braces or any kind
Speaker 2: of help with his back after it got broken. So
Speaker 2: this is this is relatively new. I think this is
Speaker 2: a post blip situation. I think this probably is like
Speaker 2: a three days before the show started kind of situation.
Speaker 1: So Rody is Roady is on one of those electric
Speaker 1: sleds in the base two. It took up to the
Speaker 1: Blu Ray player that has.
Speaker 2: Exactly go for them find out when Tony got called
Speaker 2: Tony Stank. You can be like playing the best moment.
Speaker 1: Other questions, what do you think, h Taylor's dead?
Speaker 2: No, I think you're right. I think Taylor's is coming
Speaker 2: back baby. I mean, there's two more episodes left, which
Speaker 2: is almost half of the show. And this show was
Speaker 2: sold on the idea that the reason it wasn't going
Speaker 2: to be like the comics was because of this Ben
Speaker 2: Mendelssohn Sam Jackson chemistry, which I do agree with. So
Speaker 2: hopefully we see more of that, or maybe this will
Speaker 2: like radicalize Geia and he really is dead and then
Speaker 2: Geya and Nick Fury will be together, or Nick will
Speaker 2: have to stop Geia from killing Gravic for some reason,
Speaker 2: because you know that they always decide somebody shouldn't die.
Speaker 2: It's it's gonna be very interesting. I have no idea
Speaker 2: where the next two episodes are gonna go in like
Speaker 2: a long term impact, but I will say my one
Speaker 2: my one takeaway. I think I think they are obsessed
Speaker 2: with the president, even though he's like never in the show.
Speaker 2: And I do understand. I'm dumb it, Maroney, I love you,
Speaker 2: so I understand that. But like I I think and
Speaker 2: I understand that in like a an espionage style thriller
Speaker 2: or a spy movie or an action movie, a lot
Speaker 2: of times they'll be like, we got to save the president.
Speaker 2: So I do understand it could just be coming from that, right,
Speaker 2: he is the most powerful man in the world.
Speaker 1: We've got to save it.
Speaker 2: But I think the obsession with the president, saving the president,
Speaker 2: putting the president that we've never heard of that isn't
Speaker 2: someone from the comics. As far as I know, President Ritson.
Speaker 2: I think that the President's either going to die or
Speaker 2: become replaced by a scroll at the end of the show,
Speaker 2: and that's kind of the end goal of the series.
Speaker 1: I think you had a good take before we started rolling,
Speaker 1: which is that this is going to dovetail directly into Thunderbolts,
Speaker 1: which I get. It feels like now you've now had
Speaker 1: a scroll attack, possibly with the collusion of Nick Fury
Speaker 1: and other.
Speaker 2: People are not going to trust superheroes.
Speaker 1: There's no more trust, and we're like, we need to
Speaker 1: have the superheroes we can trust that we control, that
Speaker 1: we have brainwashed, maybe exactly, And and I think that
Speaker 1: I think that that is so. I think I think directly.
Speaker 2: The knowledge will be like Ritson gets killed potentially, and
Speaker 2: then you open the door for President Thunderbolt Ross, which
Speaker 2: we know is gonna happen with Harrison Ford and then
Speaker 2: oh but hilarious, can't wait to see I'm sure he's
Speaker 2: going to be in it for like five minutes before
Speaker 2: you get CGI turned into racing.
Speaker 1: Well have you seen that clip where somebody is like, so,
Speaker 1: are you gonna be the Red Hull and what's the
Speaker 1: Red huw who?
Speaker 4: I love him so much, He's like the most fun
Speaker 4: and then the other all the other options I think
Speaker 4: are I think it could be quite likely that like
Speaker 4: Taylos if he survives, maybe he takes pretends to be
Speaker 4: the president.
Speaker 2: And the idea is like, well, oh Nick and the
Speaker 2: scrolls and and Saber can control the threat or the
Speaker 2: more thunderboltsy version. I feel like there would lead him.
Speaker 2: There would be like if Gravic ends up replacing the president.
Speaker 3: So you love that.
Speaker 1: I love the idea. I love the idea of Taylo's
Speaker 1: or another scroll as a president. And just like signing
Speaker 1: random executive orders that now everyone wants to plant these
Speaker 1: like scrolls, you.
Speaker 2: Don't have these delicious eggplants. They're great for the environment, and.
Speaker 1: Every man, woman and child in this country was planned
Speaker 1: twelve scrolls.
Speaker 2: Time for the egg plant planting.
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Up next ned Out. In today's nerd Out, where you
Speaker 2: tell us what you laugh and why, a theory you're
Speaker 2: excited to share, or a quick question we can answer,
Speaker 2: Mike from Loveland offers a scroll celestial theory. Hello x
Speaker 2: ray crew, Hello Mike, A very long shot theory with
Speaker 2: major major implications that I wanted to float your way.
Speaker 2: In the comics, scrolls are famously tampered with by celestialals,
Speaker 2: just like humans in the cree What if in the MCU.
Speaker 2: They're even more compatible than we've been led to believe.
Speaker 2: Gravic is messing with scroll DNA. What if some of
Speaker 2: those millions scrolls and humans have been messing around with
Speaker 2: DNA the old fashion way aka having sex. You see
Speaker 2: where I'm going. Well, if that's what muans are over
Speaker 2: and over they tell us these scrolls are mostly good
Speaker 2: and just want families, they got busy making it happen.
Speaker 2: Long story short, Kamala Khan's father in the MCU is
Speaker 2: a scroll boom. I like he said, I learn more
Speaker 2: probably invalidates this theory law, but we love it outageous theory.
Speaker 1: I do think that when they eventually get around to mutation,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be We've talked about this before, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen several different ways. There's gonna be I think,
Speaker 1: the weird alien energy way. There's gonna be the interdimensional way.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be the inbreeding with aliens way, and there's
Speaker 1: gonna be the straight up you're just born with powers
Speaker 1: kind of way. And I listen, I think, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you're I think you're right. I think you're right, Mike,
Speaker 1: because baby beatles gotta be Nick Fury's son.
Speaker 2: I think that dad, Captain Bob, had a son and
Speaker 2: he loved his son. Now was that his real son?
Speaker 2: And if his real son, was his real son a
Speaker 2: human or was his son a scroll or was that
Speaker 2: someone else's safe There is a lot of questions around
Speaker 2: scroll biology.
Speaker 1: Right, Maybe he's been Captain Bob for so long that
Speaker 1: he was just like.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a baby, a kid.
Speaker 1: Baby. I can't I can't keep putting.
Speaker 2: This on my wife. She really wants me to have
Speaker 2: this baby. I also think now that we're getting into
Speaker 2: this super scroll situation that unlike the Jack Kubby Stanley
Speaker 2: version that we all know, which is to do with
Speaker 2: the Fantastic Four, is more of the vein of they've
Speaker 2: biologically manipulated the scrolls to have these powers. If these
Speaker 2: scrolls then had kids, you could have kids in the
Speaker 2: future who had similar powers, though we know mutants don't
Speaker 2: tend to have genetic powers that match their parents. But
Speaker 2: I think that there's some interesting stuff here, and I
Speaker 2: think basically this could definitely be a contender for we
Speaker 2: were right in the future, simply because I think at
Speaker 2: the moment that MCU and the people behind it don't
Speaker 2: necessarily have a set track for where we're going. So
Speaker 2: I think any of these things kamala exactly. And then
Speaker 2: this they give options for how these things could come
Speaker 2: to pass when we eventually see the good old X men.
Speaker 1: Can I say one thing I think that they that
Speaker 1: they needed in early in Secret of Vision is some
Speaker 1: kind of scene where it's like, well we had the
Speaker 1: scroll detector, but it doesn't work anymore exactly, just something,
Speaker 1: because there's no way that Nick Fury would have been
Speaker 1: working with these shape shifters thirty four decades without being like, hey,
Speaker 1: somebody figure out a way to like them, because we can't.
Speaker 1: This is untenable. We can't just be like walking around
Speaker 1: wondering if people are aliens. Yeah, and he needs kind.
Speaker 3: Of rage and if he that, like, it reveals and
Speaker 3: if he can.
Speaker 2: See them with his eyeball, he's doing a good job
Speaker 2: pretending not to be able to you know, like if
Speaker 2: the sense it situations, that would actually be so sick
Speaker 2: three D man, that would be so he's so cool.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, because it just is not believable
Speaker 2: that they knew the scrolls could shape shift and they
Speaker 2: were just like, oh, that's cool with them, just staying
Speaker 2: on as don't worry about it. Yeah, nothing could go wrong. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 2: nothing could go wrong. I agree with you. Can I
Speaker 2: just say one thing? I think what they need in
Speaker 2: Secret Invasion. I want to hear Samuel Jackson say there's
Speaker 2: too many secrets on this motherfucking invasion, Like.
Speaker 3: There's I just I just lean into it.
Speaker 2: Guys, at this point, the show's too serious and there's
Speaker 2: not enough secrets. Actually, I will say, thanks Mike. If
Speaker 2: you have theories, passions or quick questions you want to share,
Speaker 2: hit us up at x ray at CRICA dot com.
Speaker 2: Instructions in the show notes.
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be having a very special guest, Chase Serrano
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