1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: M h. Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls Podcast, 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: a weekly conversation about mental health, personal development, and all 3 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: the small decisions we can make to become the best 4 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: possible versions of ourselves. I'm your host, Dr joy hard 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: and Bradford, a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. For more 6 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: information or to find a therapist in your area, visit 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: our website at Therapy for Black Girls dot com. While 8 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: I hope you love listening to and learning from the podcast, 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: it is not meant to be a substitute for relationship 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: with a licensed mental health professional. Hey, y'all, thanks so 11 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: much for joining me for session one oh two of 12 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: a Therapy for Black Girls podcast. For the past week 13 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: or so, many people have been feeling significant grief over 14 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: the death of Nipsey Hustle, who was a California entrepreneur 15 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: and rapper, and more than experiencing grief over his death, 16 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: many of you have also expressed confusion as to why 17 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: you're experiencing grief so deeply for someone you didn't know. 18 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: So I wanted to share a few thoughts about what 19 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: may be happening for you and share some tips on 20 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: how to process it. 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So. 65 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: In psychology, there's something called the just world hypothesis, and 66 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: it basically refers to many of us holding the belief 67 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: that what we put into the world is what we 68 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: will get out of it. It's our belief that those 69 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: who do good will receive good, and those who do 70 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: wrong in the world will have wrong none to them. 71 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: By all accounts, Nipsey Hustle was doing great things in 72 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: his community, hiring people whom others might not, encouraging kids 73 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: to be active in their education, and even his final deed, 74 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: it seems, was in the service of a friend. So 75 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 1: when we think about someone putting out good in the world, 76 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: all of these things are definitely things that fit the bill. 77 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: So for him to be brutally murdered in the way 78 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: he was shakes up our belief in this system, and 79 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: it exposes us to the fact that this may not 80 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: always be true. It makes us feel more vulnerable, and 81 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: it causes us to consider that if something like this 82 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: could happen to him, it could happen to me as well, 83 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: which of course is a very uncomfortable thought to sit with. 84 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: It forces us to face our own mortality and the 85 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: idea that no matter how much we try to control, ultimately, 86 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: there are some things that are out of our power. 87 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: Another reason I think that many are feeling so impacted 88 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: by this loss is the communal grieving that is taking 89 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: place across social media. For more than a week now, 90 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: there have been countless photos, videos, and story shared from 91 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: people who knew him well and those who didn't. But 92 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: that kind of shared experienced and shared meaning making has 93 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: a tendency to heighten any emotions that are already present, 94 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: much like a concert is impactful in large part because 95 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: of the energy you're receiving from the other people who 96 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: are in intendance. Having so many people come together to 97 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: publicly grieve transmits a similar energy that heightens the feelings 98 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: of sadness that many people are feeling. And a third 99 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: and final reason why your experience of grief may be 100 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: feeling more intense than you'd expect right now is because 101 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 1: his murder was captured on tape that has been shared 102 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: across the Internet for the past week. So if you 103 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: watch the video, then you may be having difficulties shaking 104 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: the images from your mind, and you may find yourself 105 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: seeing flashes of the video playing randomly in your head. 106 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: And even if you didn't watch the video but have 107 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: read descriptions about what was contained, it's very possible that 108 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: your mind created its own image that's continuing to stick 109 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: around with you. You may have heard me say this before, 110 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: but i'll say it again. Our visual memories are incredibly powerful, 111 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: and our psyches are really not set up to be 112 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: able to process and understand the level of route reality 113 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: that are often seen in these videos, and the images 114 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: tend to stay with us and they can result in distress. 115 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: So you've heard me say it before, but please make 116 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: sure that you are turning off the notifications and the 117 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: automatic play of videos on your phone through these social 118 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: media apps, because sometimes you will run across these videos 119 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: and not even know what it is, and then it 120 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: may be too late. So if you're someone who's been 121 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: feeling pretty intense grief this week, one know that it's 122 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: okay to feel however you're feeling. Many times, things like 123 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: this feel deeply because it touches on other wounds that 124 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: you didn't even know we're there, or that you haven't 125 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: healed as nicely as you thought, so perhaps do some 126 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: reflecting or some journaling to help uncover what this touch 127 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: for you. And two, pay attention to the trajectory of 128 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: your feelings. It's not uncommon to still be feeling pretty 129 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: intense right now, but if in two or three weeks 130 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: you're still feeling as intense or even more in tensely, 131 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: and you've noticed disruptions to other parts of your life 132 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: like your sleep, eating, or socializing, then it may be 133 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: helpful for you to talk with the therapist about how 134 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: you're feeling to see if you can get some help 135 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: in processing and unpacking more about what's going on for you. So, y'all, 136 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: let me know what you think. Does any of this 137 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: information help you make sense of what you've been feeling? 138 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: Share your thoughts with me on social media using the 139 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: hashtag tv G in session. Now let's dive into some 140 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: of our on the Porch questions for this week. If 141 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: you have a question you'd like me to give you 142 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: some feedback about, send it to me at podcast at 143 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: Therapy for Black Girls dot com and I just might 144 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: choose it to be answered on the podcast. So question 145 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: number one I got a follow up question after session 146 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: where I shared tips for taking care of yourself after 147 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: a breakup, and the listener asked, how do you deal 148 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: with a breakup when children are involved? So, in addition 149 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:02,119 Speaker 1: to of the information that I shared in that episode, 150 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: and if you haven't listened to that when you can 151 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: find that at Therapy for Black Girls dot com slash 152 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: session UM, but I would also add that when children 153 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: are involved, there are definitely a few things that need 154 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: to be considered. So number one, you want to be 155 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: honest with them and share the news about the breakup 156 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: in whatever way is developmentally and age appropriate. Now, you 157 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: don't need to share all the details, but be honest 158 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: and that the relationship is over and that they are 159 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: not at all responsible for the breakup. So sometimes kids, 160 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: especially young ones, will make up all kinds of stories 161 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: about why things happen, and they may think that the 162 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: split was about them, So you want to assure them 163 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: that it is not, and that even though you two 164 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: are no longer together, you still love them very much. 165 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: Tip number two, you want to be very careful not 166 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: to make the kids upon in the breakup, so don't 167 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: prevent them from seeing their other parents because you're upset 168 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: with them, and don't use them as a means for 169 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: staying connected beyond what is necessary. So sometimes, of course, 170 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, there are still feelings after a breakup, and 171 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: sometimes we can get caught up in, you know, saying 172 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: that you need to talk about the kids, when really 173 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: you don't need to talk about the kids, but you 174 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: just want to hear this person's voice or stay connected 175 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: in some way, and you want to be careful not 176 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: to do that if you can. Tip number three, do 177 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: not talk poorly about their other parents in front of them, 178 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: no matter how heated you may be. It can be 179 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: very damaging for kids to hear disparaging comments about their 180 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: other parents from you, and it can under my parenting 181 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: for both you and the other parents. So please try 182 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: to avoid that at all costs. Good luck, and I 183 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: hope that that helps question number two. After I received 184 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: my master's degree in two thousand and eight, I've worked 185 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: in the field for less than a few months. Since then, 186 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: I've been unable to secure work in counseling due to 187 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: not having enough experience. Fast forward to today, eleven years later, 188 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: and I have finally secured a position with a counseling 189 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: agency and just sent off my licensure paperwork to gain 190 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: supervision hours. I have a bit of apprehension, however, I 191 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: hope you can let me know what tools to look 192 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: into to further prepare myself for seeing clients. I've been 193 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: listening to podcasts for beginning therapists, reading books such as 194 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: The Body Keeps The Score and The Boy Who Was 195 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: Raised as a Dog, to name a few. Do I 196 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: invest in other books, become a member of counseling and 197 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: psychology associations. I want to be prepared, but not overwhelmed. 198 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: Please help. Thank you for any advice or tools you 199 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: can share. So congrats on getting back out there. I'm 200 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: sure it must feel great to finally be working in 201 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: the field you've been pursuing for some time now. The 202 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: books you mentioned are great, and I definitely think that 203 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: keeping up with reading is a good idea. But honestly, 204 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: in terms of growing as a therapist, there's really nothing 205 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: like getting real world experience and solid supervision. So it 206 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: sounds like you may be getting some supervision from someone 207 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: on site at your new position, but if you can, 208 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: I would also opt to have outside supervision offered by 209 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: a great therapist in your area. If possible. You may 210 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: even want to see if there's someone who'll be willing 211 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: to let you shadow them while they're doing clinical work 212 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: so that you can get even more experience in seeing 213 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: what therapy looks like for different clinicians. Another thing I 214 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: would suggest is that if there's anyone running groups in 215 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: your area, particularly process groups, because those are the ones 216 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: I love, see if you can serve as a co 217 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: leader or a process observer so that you can get 218 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: the experience of seeing how dynamics play out in a 219 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: group setting. I think immersing yourself in as many experiences 220 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: as you can along with reading, would be a great 221 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: way to start. So thanks for your question and good luck. 222 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: Remember that if you have any questions that you want 223 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: my feedback about, you can send them to me at 224 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: podcasts at Therapy for Black Girls dot com and I 225 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: just might answer it on the air. That's all I 226 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: got this week, y'all. 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