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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back inside Central Heald Training Center for

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Speaker 1: another episode at Broncos Now as always am.

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Speaker 2: Your host is Sidney.

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Speaker 1: Jones, and coming up on today's episode, we'll hear from

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Speaker 1: head coach Sean Payton and several players as they take

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Speaker 1: a look back at a Thursday night's a loss in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City and look ahead to a Sunday's home game

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Speaker 1: for the Packers. A lot more coming up weird from

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Speaker 1: head coach Sean Payton today, for the first time since

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Speaker 1: is a postgame press conference a Thursday night in Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: and today he discussed the struggles he saw on offense,

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Speaker 1: specifically in the passing game.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, it's been a handful. It's hard to point

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Speaker 3: to one specifically. You know, you want to have confidence

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Speaker 3: in the pocket. You know, we need to find ways

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Speaker 3: to get guys open, you know, and typically speaking, that

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Speaker 3: has to happen efficiently on early downs. It can't be

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Speaker 3: just on third down. So that's one of the things

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Speaker 3: that that we've discussed here, you know, early today, and

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Speaker 3: looking at our pass list and drive starters and making

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Speaker 3: sure that that we find a way. Obviously on first

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Speaker 3: down you're going to be mixed runner pass with your sequencing.

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Speaker 3: But you know, the feeling after that game was just simply,

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Speaker 3: you know, we've got to be able to throw it better, uh,

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Speaker 3: to win in this league. And that wasn't directed at

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Speaker 3: any one player. That was directed at all of us

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Speaker 1: Running back Ravonte Williams also spoke to the media today

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Speaker 1: and talked about the run game on a Thursday night

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Speaker 1: and how all the running backs in their room compliment

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Speaker 4: Well, I feel like you've just been outside of the

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Speaker 4: whole year. Like once, when the offense is playing well,

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Speaker 4: I feel like the defense kind of has a has

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Speaker 4: a down game and then vice versa. But I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's always you always want to play a best especially

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Speaker 4: against the Chiefs. I feel like every every year that

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Speaker 4: to any game. And I felt the same way this.

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Speaker 4: So we just got to get everything clicking on the

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Speaker 4: same page and both both sides of the ball got

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Speaker 4: to come to play, just like change the pace like

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Speaker 4: I was in earlier. I feel like Jeli is more

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Speaker 4: more like thunder, and I'm kind of just like right

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Speaker 4: there in the middle. Both of them. So I mean

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Speaker 4: all three of us, not just Jeli, not just me,

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Speaker 4: but p Run and some of the other guys in

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Speaker 4: the room. Muscle contributing a big way that goes on

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Speaker 4: the scene and long as we get our job done,

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Speaker 4: because I mean, we do more than just round. We passed,

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Speaker 4: block things like that. So I feel like we just

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Speaker 4: got to keep going our job and hopefully the ball

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Speaker 4: come to us more.

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton also detailed the improvement he saw on defense

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Speaker 1: versus Chiefs and how about unit took a step forward.

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Speaker 3: It was significant, and it was significant against one of

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Speaker 3: the better offenses we've seen. So I think it starts

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Speaker 3: you can defend the running game and have success, then

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Speaker 3: obviously your distance has changed. And but when you're struggling

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Speaker 3: in that area, the play action, all the other things

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Speaker 3: dealing with the second and short second mediums. So the

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Speaker 3: first thing I would point to specifically last week would

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Speaker 1: Stopping the run is a big reason why this defense

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Speaker 1: has seen success in the red zone recently as well.

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Speaker 2: According to head coach Sean Payan.

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Speaker 3: Number one, they're trusting the technique within the framework of

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Speaker 3: great to have Justin back on the field.

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Speaker 3: And and I would say more than anything, it's it's

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Speaker 3: understanding what you're doing and then and then trusting your

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Speaker 3: red zone defense also, you know, leans on on being

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Speaker 3: all of those things. I would say, Uh, in those

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Speaker 1: Front side linebacker Nick Bonito, he discussed what it meant

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Speaker 5: No, I saw good just because you know, we finally

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Speaker 5: you know, we're putting ourselves in positions a lot of

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Speaker 5: So I mean, just continuing to hold on it, honing

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Speaker 5: sure we're downing in on the details is the main thing.

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Speaker 2: Looking ahead to this weekend.

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Speaker 1: As the Broncos return home to face the Green Bay

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Speaker 1: Packers on a Sunday, head coach Sean Payton said, the

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Speaker 1: focus is internal.

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Speaker 3: The focus obviously is is on the next week, and

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Speaker 3: you hear it around the league, and you know, there

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Speaker 3: were things I was very encouraged with last Thursday. Uh

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Speaker 3: I was discouraged or disappointed we didn't win, but I

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Speaker 3: was very encouraged on the effort and energy we played with.

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Speaker 3: You know, we have a chance now to play two

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Speaker 3: is right in front of you. The focus is really

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Speaker 3: internally it's it's it's your team more than the opponent,

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Speaker 3: even if you will. So that's kind of where we're

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Speaker 1: And Jeante Williams added to that by discussing what his

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Speaker 1: mindset is at this point in the season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just when, because I mean, when you win, a

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Speaker 6: Is quieted down.

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Speaker 4: But I mean we're in a bad fire right now,

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Speaker 4: so a lot of people will probably I lose a

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Speaker 4: just got to go out here against the Packers and

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Speaker 4: and if we can do that, I feel like everything

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Speaker 1: Back on hip.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: Joining me here inside the Broncos podcast studio for today's

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Speaker 1: show is Broncos lead writer Eric Delalai.

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Speaker 2: Eric, thanks for joining me on the show today.

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Speaker 6: It's it great to be here.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you here.

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Speaker 1: Eric. We started off the show earlier hearing from head

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Speaker 1: coach Chean Payton what he had to say about some

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Speaker 1: of the struggles he saw an offense, particularly with the

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Speaker 1: passing game. The Broncos finished a Thursday night's game with

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Speaker 1: a just eighty two passing yards. What did you kind

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Speaker 1: of see in that regard and how do you hope

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Speaker 1: to see them focus on that this week to fix that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, in some ways, it was a little

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Speaker 7: bit surprising, right, because the Broncos had passed the ball

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Speaker 7: pretty well to start the season, and the offense was

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Speaker 7: certainly not the problem. And I think there was this

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Speaker 7: feeling that if the offense could keep playing the way

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Speaker 7: a little bit, this this team could be pretty good, right,

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Speaker 7: And you know, we saw them struggle a little bit

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Speaker 7: against and good defenses. And make no mistake, the Chiefs

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Speaker 7: a lot of these advanced metrics defensively. So it was

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Speaker 7: a good defense they went up against, but there were

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Speaker 7: some issues that the Broncs are gonna have to figure

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Speaker 7: out to have more success. And as Sean Payton said,

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Speaker 7: on Monday, he kind of clarified his comment from Thursday

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Speaker 7: where he said you have to pass the ball better

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Speaker 7: to win in this league. And I think a lot

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Speaker 7: of people took that to me and Russell Wilson, and

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Speaker 7: he clarified on Monday that it's not just Russ. It's

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Speaker 7: the blocking up front and giving guys time to throw.

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Speaker 7: It's the wide receivers finding separation. It's the coaches calling

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Speaker 7: plan to put the wide receivers in position to make plays.

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Speaker 7: And dating back even to the Jets game that we

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Speaker 7: saw was an issue where in the first half the

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Speaker 7: a touchdown to avoid a shutout. But I think the

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Speaker 7: passing game, it's not just about deep passes, right, And

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Speaker 7: we know that around the league teams are playing more

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Speaker 6: But if that's the case, you've.

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Speaker 7: Got to be able to combat that by either running

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Speaker 7: in Week one against the Raiders. The Broncos weren't able

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Speaker 7: and so they've got to find a rhythm there. They've

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Speaker 7: offensively because Champaign's right, you're gonna have to throw the

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Speaker 7: does kind of spread to a bunch of different people

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Speaker 7: that were bad at passes. There were times where the

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Speaker 7: far reaching. And for sure, maybe the Broncos are able

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Speaker 7: the run and dare you to throw and if you

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Speaker 7: can't do that, you're going to struggle again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Orke, you just touched on this a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It was clear that the offense was more productive in

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Speaker 1: the run game. I know. We heard from running back

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Speaker 1: Chevante Williams earlier in this show, But you had a

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Speaker 1: chance to ask head coach On Payne just some of

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Speaker 1: the strides that he's seen from Javonte so far this year.

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Speaker 2: What did he say in that regard, Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 7: They're seeing Javante continue to develop as he comes back

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Speaker 7: from that pretty brutal knee injury. And he mentioned that

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Speaker 7: you'll continue to see that production and that improvement and

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Speaker 7: play as we go along as we get further removed

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Speaker 7: from the injury. I thought Javante in the game against

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Speaker 7: the Chiefs showed not just the burst that we've seen

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Speaker 7: Now the Broncos have to figure out, Okay, were you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric, you know, we heard from outside linebacker Nick

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Speaker 2: Eric, appreciate you joining the show today.

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Speaker 1: You got it, said, Well, that'll do it for today's

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