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Speaker 1: The day I met him at Brynch.

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Speaker 2: We all went thrifting after in Dallas to these thrift

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Speaker 2: He did not know a little song called It by

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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, Bobby Bones here on the Bobby Cast. Today

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Speaker 3: we have the band Perry. They've won Grammy CMA's ACM Awards.

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Speaker 3: Their song If I Die Young Exploded back in the

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Speaker 3: day was a number one country song, also a massive

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Speaker 3: pop song. Now, the original band Perry was made up

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Speaker 3: of Kimberly and her brothers Reed and Neil. They went

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Speaker 3: away for like nine years. Now they're back, sort of

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Speaker 3: in season two. I mean, the band Perry is back,

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Speaker 3: but it's her and her husband now. Now they got

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Speaker 3: a new song called Psychological. They're out on the Psycho

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Speaker 3: Rodeo tour right now. A new era, a new lineup,

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Speaker 3: a new chapter, a new just a lot of news.

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Speaker 3: Here's my conversation with Kimberly Perry and Johnny Costello the band.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you, guys. I would like to say

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Speaker 3: to your face is what I've said to not your faces.

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Speaker 3: I think it pulled off the greatest coup ever. And

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it got to you either strategically

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Speaker 3: or not strategically. This was the greatest coup. And I

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Speaker 3: want to explain myself. You were in the band Parry

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Speaker 3: with the two brothers that was vanm Pariy, and you

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Speaker 3: guys are massive. It's kind of hard to be the

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Speaker 3: band Pari without your brothers. So you come back, you

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Speaker 3: your brother and your husband yep, and then you drop

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Speaker 3: your brother. Now that's the whole. And I was like,

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Speaker 3: that's the most strategic, beautiful launch back to the band

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Speaker 3: Parry ever because obviously you want to tour under the

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Speaker 3: Van Parry totally. So was that if it was on purpose?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, genius level like chest and Checkers.

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Speaker 2: I wish I could claim that because maybe it would

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Speaker 2: issure drop security forever and ever. But no, it just

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Speaker 2: happened the way that it happened. I mean we chatted

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Speaker 2: last time during my solo era, which was really special.

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Speaker 2: I mean I was pregnant, I had my son shortly

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Speaker 2: after that project came out. It did not feel authentic

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Speaker 2: to me to play Bam Parry songs live under the

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Speaker 2: solo artist banner and Also, I just missed the hell

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Speaker 2: out of playing with family on stage. Whoever that family

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Speaker 2: ended up becoming. But no, not strategic, but just follow me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, cause again, and I saw this with Gary Lavaux

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Speaker 3: when he was touring solo, even though he was the guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different, it's totally different.

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Speaker 3: You can be doing it written every song. Kimberly Perry

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Speaker 3: and the band Perry are two different sellable and.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you for understanding. Totally.

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Speaker 3: So I mean that's complimentary as possible.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, totally I get it.

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Speaker 3: So whenever you guys came back and it was one

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Speaker 4: I think some people have called me and I'm like, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm Johnny.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've had to be.

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Speaker 2: Real careful of like telling the story that this is

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Speaker 2: my husband and baby daddy, but he is new to

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Speaker 2: the band. This is not like, this is not a

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Speaker 2: brother that situation, because you did share that, it's been

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Speaker 1: So I just want to say that loud and clear.

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Speaker 3: He's not your brother. Also, it's not my brother too. Well,

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Speaker 2: Well, you know when we took a break in twenty

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Speaker 1: We'd been on the road since I.

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Speaker 2: Was fifteen, Reid was ten, Meal was eight at our

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Speaker 2: first show, and it's like their entire childhood, my young

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Speaker 1: I mean it was magical.

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Speaker 2: We say this all the time, like Season one happened

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Speaker 2: we had been through so many changes at that point,

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Speaker 1: And then we.

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Speaker 2: Just made this agreement there that if we're ever going

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Speaker 2: where we're at at that point, and you know, timing

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Speaker 2: Both of my brothers are married. Like everybody, we were

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Speaker 2: the perpetual kids of country music.

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Speaker 2: It was like, Oh, there's the kids, there's our kids.

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Speaker 2: But it was just a cool moment out of the

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Speaker 2: the energy to rebuild this. We are not going out

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Speaker 2: where season one, the disappearance of the band Perry, I

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Speaker 2: couldn't live with that. Thank God, I'm married a guitar

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Speaker 3: Indulge me. What three questions do you get asked the most,

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Speaker 3: and then answer them so we can move beyond that.

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Number one, like, where are your brothers?

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Speaker 1: Where are they?

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Speaker 2: They live in California, both of them married. Reid lives

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Speaker 2: big question. Another one is what is different about season

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Speaker 1: And what's going to remain the same.

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Speaker 3: What's the different?

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Speaker 1: You can answer, do you want me to keep going?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Answer it? Though, yeah, you answer it.

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Speaker 2: It's very important to me that the nostalgic feelings that

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Speaker 2: album he recorded Pioneer. That's very like intentional to make

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Speaker 2: sure that we have through lines. But country music is

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Speaker 2: more exciting than it's ever been since I've been a.

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Speaker 1: Part of it.

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Speaker 2: Like, there's so many bold artists and bold song statements happening,

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Speaker 2: and we want to contribute to that. Hince our first song.

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Speaker 2: I think those are the top two questions. And how

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Speaker 2: is it working with your husband?

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Speaker 3: How's it working with you?

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Speaker 1: How is it, babe? Work out with your wife?

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Speaker 4: Wonderful?

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Speaker 1: Never been better.

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Speaker 4: I think I think we play very different roles.

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Speaker 5: I think I'm what you call OCD, so like all

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Speaker 5: my cases on the road half cases. I'm always trying

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Speaker 5: to organize all of our road life on the road.

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Speaker 5: And Kimberly is the creative and always been the voice

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Speaker 5: behind TVP. So I think I'm just here to one

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Speaker 5: learn the catalog. I come from a rock background where

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Speaker 5: I'm like, this is commercial country southern rock. Like there

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Speaker 5: is such an element of like when TVP kind of

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Speaker 5: transition to larger venues outside festivals, larger arena tours with

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Speaker 5: the music and go more. Hey, let's have some like chainsaws.

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Speaker 5: I'm done better dig two. I think that's where my

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Speaker 5: So it's been really fun to just be like, these

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Speaker 5: then the stuff we've been writing recording is awesome.

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Speaker 3: Was your here always that blonde?

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Speaker 3: I wasn't going to die to match the band Perry's blonde.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, No, I.

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Speaker 1: Can show you evidence, and I mean I'll leave you.

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Speaker 2: I met Johnny in October of twenty twenty in Dallas

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Speaker 2: because I Reneil and I were working on some music

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Speaker 2: And I can tell you he was that blonde, but

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Speaker 2: he used to he was not wearing leather as much.

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Speaker 2: Then you were wearing car heart overalls without T shirts.

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Speaker 3: Where are you from?

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Speaker 5: Grip? In Dallas, Texas? Yeah, but mostly like Germany. Heidelberg

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Speaker 3: Best hot dog ever had was in Germany. Really, I

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Speaker 3: went to Paris, and I have this romantic thought of

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we went to Europe and I just love

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get to Austria. We're doing that whole area.

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Speaker 3: And there was a time we got off the train

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Speaker 3: through Germany, not Berlin. What's another big German city, Communich.

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Speaker 3: That's hot dog ever had? And so we stop at

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Speaker 6: It's fresh, and they're making chefs in there. It's I

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Speaker 6: want to stop at every It's like a Bucky every

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Speaker 3: So we stopped at this food fair and I go

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't called a hot dog, it was called

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Speaker 3: I get in. He's the greatest hot dog I've ever

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Speaker 3: had in my life. And that's my association with Germany

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Speaker 3: but I agree. Yeah, are you Germans?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? It spoke as.

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Speaker 3: You speak German very well.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, don't teach this to our son.

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Speaker 2: I don't need you to talking behind behind my back

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Speaker 5: Especialis were born in Germany. I was born in the

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Speaker 3: I mean romantically, though you're dating the corporate lead singer

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Speaker 4: Have to be night rage. I'm still just rout it.

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Speaker 1: Just pissed me off because I was just like, who

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Speaker 4: So it's seventy five bucks.

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Speaker 2: But he thought he did not know the band Perry,

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Speaker 5: I would, you know, visit certain streaming platforms to access music,

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Speaker 2: I really believe him at this point, like I've grilled him.

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Speaker 3: That's funny.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, boy, no, you'll find out.

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Speaker 5: I think it was during COVIDS. I had a COVID

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Speaker 2: To Vegas? We got married at midnight at the Wynn

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Speaker 1: Let's just go to Vegas. Let's go do this. I

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Speaker 1: So if somebody would let us on tournagile black corvette.

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Speaker 1: This is meant to be.

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Speaker 2: And there was a woman who went to Divinity School

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Speaker 3: You just do it in your hotel room? What was

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Speaker 3: Lie, Why did you feel like you had to get married? Then?

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Speaker 2: Just wanted to didn't tell anybody. I had never made

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Speaker 2: But it was just a season I think where I

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Speaker 2: I was like, let's be wild. I was like, I

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Speaker 3: You know, it feels like a homeschool kid who gets

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Speaker 3: And I wasn't even meaning you specific specific, but that's

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Speaker 3: So it's like you wanted to exercise that part that

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Speaker 3: It was for sure him. Yeah, we'll make sure that's out,

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Speaker 1: It was for sure him.

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Speaker 2: But I never had believed it like love at first sight,

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Speaker 1: And just not overthink things because I'm an overthinker.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever think you'd be in a country band?

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Speaker 5: No, I think I grew up So I grew up

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Speaker 3: But honestly, now, yeah, I would think about all those

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Speaker 5: Here, No, I think what y'all build is so much cooler,

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, That's how I knew that he was like next level.

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Speaker 3: He was like, you know the Mastodon clowns, And I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I never heard of the Mastodon clowns. I don't even

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Speaker 4: You relax.

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Speaker 3: He could hit me with like eight in a row

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Speaker 3: that he made up. So yeah, that's cool. And you

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Speaker 3: It's not Perry anymore, though, is it?

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Speaker 2: I mean legally it is mostly because I'm just too

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Speaker 4: Then she's still the band Perry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a change, I haven't.

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Speaker 5: It's on the to do list for twenty twenty seven. Yeahs,

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Speaker 4: Get her name.

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Speaker 3: I told my wife I didn't care she changed her

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Speaker 3: name to my real life because my real estame is

447
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Speaker 3: not Bones, obviously, and she does not go by Kaylen Bones.

448
00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,119
Speaker 3: She'd rather stab a pin in her eye than go

449
00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,200
Speaker 3: by Kaylen Bones. Like no part of her and even

450
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,040
Speaker 3: like our upcoming child. She's like that the child will

451
00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,639
Speaker 3: not be called Bones, right because she knows this is like,

452
00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,680
Speaker 3: for sure, a very elevated version of.

453
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Speaker 2: Me, for sure, totally she knows the real you. Yeah, sadly,

454
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,640
Speaker 2: that's the beautiful thing about marriage. It's for better for worse.

455
00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:40,960
Speaker 4: Baby.

456
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Speaker 3: And when we were getting married, I was like, you

457
00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,720
Speaker 3: don't you did not have to take my last name,

458
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,600
Speaker 3: and then she goes, why don't you take mine? Its

459
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,480
Speaker 3: absolutely not, but you did not have to take yeah name.

460
00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,080
Speaker 2: I do you feel for him a little? I'm like,

461
00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,520
Speaker 2: ain't nobody told him to change his name to Johnny Perry.

462
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,359
Speaker 2: Yet that's not going to happen. Actually, but I did

463
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Speaker 2: wonder if you were going to get a little bit

464
00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,240
Speaker 2: of that you haven't yet.

465
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,800
Speaker 3: It was the child that we're about to have. That

466
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 3: was the reason she said it would just be easier

467
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:09,560
Speaker 3: on the kid.

468
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, Well it is because I can tell

469
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:12,440
Speaker 2: you this.

470
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,040
Speaker 1: You know, we have congratulations.

471
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,720
Speaker 2: By the way, our son is two and a half,

472
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 2: and so every pediatrician appointment we go to, like the

473
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,639
Speaker 2: onboarding is always like there's some judgment because they're like

474
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,360
Speaker 2: Kimberly Perry mother, Johnny Costello father, he's with Costello.

475
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,200
Speaker 1: Are you guys married, you know, like and I'm just like, yeah, like.

476
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,400
Speaker 4: A yeah, a little bit.

477
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 1: You get a little bit.

478
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Speaker 3: Of it, even though they probably got shotgun married.

479
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,120
Speaker 4: We don't have Vegas. We have.

480
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Speaker 7: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our

481
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Speaker 7: sponsor and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

482
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Speaker 3: You mind talking about the kid for a minute. We're

483
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 3: in the process, you know, soon enough, it's going to happen.

484
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 3: When you had your baby, do people know you were there?

485
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? Like, did I just

486
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 1: go out like we're we're in a baby bubble? Is

487
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 1: that what you're saying.

488
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just going to tell you the story that

489
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 3: that makes me ask this question. We went and we

490
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 3: toured the hospital because we wanted to see where we parked,

491
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 3: because I didn't want it to be like oh god,

492
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 3: and then go to the wrong one. I'm at the

493
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 3: vet and they're like, no, the hospital's over here for

494
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 3: you know, so go do the thing. And went in

495
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 3: and it as soon as I went in, I'm not whining.

496
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 3: I want everybody, I'm not whining. As soon as I

497
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 3: went in, I didn't realize that it was a group.

498
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 3: They did these group tours because I didn't We didn't

499
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 3: ask for anything. Sol well, we're not going to call

500
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 3: and be like that. There were five other couples, and

501
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 3: one of the couples was like taking pictures and recording

502
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 3: us the whole time. Which it's a very that's a

503
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,959
Speaker 3: very vulnerable place. I understand the job that I do.

504
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 3: I get it everywhere I go. It's fine. I I

505
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 3: built this and people see me in public and I

506
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: love it and it's great totally. But there are certain places, yeah,

507
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 3: where it.

508
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 1: Feels like the maternity ward like so much.

509
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 3: So I never really had that feeling of being protective

510
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 3: totally Like that felt right in that moment.

511
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 1: Because you're not just protecting you anymore and.

512
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 3: Totally protect So that bothered me. And it was and

513
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 3: again I'm not you know, Jimmy Fallon or Obama or Trump.

514
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 3: It's not that level of fame. But it's if I'm

515
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 3: in there and people know, are they going to come

516
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 3: trying to take pictures? So I wonder is that something

517
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Speaker 3: you work?

518
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: Think alias is an option?

519
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 2: So we were in under an ALIAS and then I'm

520
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 2: not sure where you guys are delivering. We delivered it

521
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 2: here in Nashville, but there was an option to be

522
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: on like a private floor, which was really cool, and

523
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 2: then under an ALIAS, and that was sort of like

524
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 2: what we chose to do.

525
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 3: I never would have thought to even ask that, but

526
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 3: that felt so intrusive.

527
00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's a lot.

528
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 3: And I've had my house broken into, I've been jumped,

529
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 3: I've had all that stuff happened to me. And that sucked,

530
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 3: And I get it. Man, it was a whole different level.

531
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're in like pop a mode where you

532
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 4: start to.

533
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: See, yeah, it's different.

534
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 3: It kind of piss me off. Yeah, for sure, when

535
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 3: it was happening. I was like, at least fake it,

536
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: because you guys, know when someone's.

537
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 5: Phone goes there's an angle of a phone.

538
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 4: See the light bulb.

539
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,959
Speaker 2: Also, to your point, there's some basic humanity that has

540
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: to come into play, and a maternity ward taking.

541
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Speaker 1: Photos and video of you guys is not cool.

542
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 2: But that's a human thing. Like they should know that.

543
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 2: That's totally not on you, guys. They should know that.

544
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 3: How was the labor like, what's up?

545
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 4: He's looking at you.

546
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 1: It's hilarious.

547
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 3: I'm looking at you right now because you had to

548
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 3: go through what happened, Like what over? What's up? Tell

549
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: me how painful was that for you?

550
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: Johnny?

551
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 5: No, I wasn't going there. I mean, the couch's not comfortable,

552
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 5: but it was. It is just like I guess you

553
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 5: don't realize it. I remember leaving the hospital and like

554
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 5: walking back in. I went and got Chick fil A

555
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 5: and I walked back in and I just watched they

556
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 5: were wheeling with right by me, and I was like, oh,

557
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 5: that's my kid. Oh whoa, Like you're just like whoa.

558
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 5: Your life changes. But the process, whole process of it

559
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 5: was rocks. I mean, the anesthesiologist was a rock star,

560
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 5: Like you're just like, oh.

561
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: What about the white Like do you have do you

562
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 3: feel different about her ector seeing her do that.

563
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 5: She's mighty Kimberly. I feel like Kimberly is how I

564
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 5: feel like how everyone knows her. They're like she her voice,

565
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 5: her spirits. She writes music about topics that we all

566
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 5: kind of don't want to talk about sometimes, and so

567
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 5: like she's willing to go deep and dark. I think

568
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 5: she just like there was one moment You're like okay.

569
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 5: I was like you're good, and she's like I got this, and.

570
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 4: I was just like yeah, like it's true, it's real confidence.

571
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think both of us coming out of it,

572
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Speaker 5: I think that's where we both were like WHOA, our

573
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 5: life has.

574
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Speaker 2: Changed forever, and it was just the two of us,

575
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,479
Speaker 2: like we did not have we chose to not have

576
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 2: family waiting in the waiting room. We're like, we got

577
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: this guys, y'all can meet them on the other side.

578
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Speaker 1: That was really special for us because.

579
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Speaker 2: I think it just like took us to a whole

580
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 2: new level of our relationship. But that is I mean,

581
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 2: that's twenty four to thirty six hours of going from

582
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 2: like oh, he's on the way.

583
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: To Oh he's here?

584
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 4: Is have you major playlist sentence?

585
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 3: No any songs that I suggest because I'm I've had

586
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: a few suggestions kind of crows doing a little hoodie.

587
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 3: My wife is My wife's almost twelve years younger than

588
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: I am, and that is not her.

589
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: What does she want?

590
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 4: Does she have her?

591
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's got like you know, big Bieber fan, Harry

592
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: Styles fan, she loves Casey Musgraves. So she definitely has

593
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 3: like a vibe, got it, And so I'm sure it'll

594
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 3: be a lot of that. But yeah, it's also not

595
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: the joke that I make with her is can we

596
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 3: not make this all about you?

597
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Speaker 6: Like when we get in there, Let's not make this

598
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 6: all about so?

599
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: And I was asking you first because I feel like

600
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: you had my eyes and what I'm how it's going

601
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 3: to be, was it? My therapist told me not to

602
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: put any sort of judgment on the emotions that I have,

603
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,239
Speaker 3: meaning there some people in that moment that have this

604
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 3: complete euphoric state. There are some people that it doesn't

605
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: happen then because of whatever else is happening, Like it

606
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 3: could be substituted for fear, for anxiety in that euphoria

607
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: comes later as the dad. How did you feel do.

608
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 5: You just have it like you are like you're always

609
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 5: a protector of your partner, but then you're also just

610
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 5: like you're like when you hear them coming out of

611
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 5: the room crying and then I mean for what he

612
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 5: was peeing and they're like, oh, not in there, like

613
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 5: they had just turn him real quick. And so you

614
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 5: just kind of have this like my whole world change on,

615
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 5: like Papa Bear now, like you just kind of get

616
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 5: into this realm of like it feels so natural, Like

617
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 5: I just get so excited. I think my whole life

618
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 5: I was kind of like.

619
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Speaker 4: Kids, I don't know.

620
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Speaker 5: And then now it's like once we got married, I

621
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 5: was like, well we get to have family, and then

622
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Speaker 5: we had a kid. I was like, it's such a

623
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 5: great progression in your life that you get to have

624
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 5: a kid, because it just kind of matures things that

625
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 5: you have anxieties about. Like there's some things you overthink

626
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 5: or you get in your head about, and you're like

627
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 5: when you compare it, you kind of just don't think

628
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 5: about that anymore.

629
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Speaker 3: Do you see? Do you have a different strength You

630
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: have always been a very strong person to me, I

631
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: feel like you've always been a very You've had to

632
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 3: be this industry, you had to be totally. Do you

633
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: feel like different strengths for being a mom.

634
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: I do, and that strength comes in confidence. I think

635
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: it's sort of like just a whole different I don't

636
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: get flustered in the same ways, and the things that

637
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: I would trip on, I just don't trip on anymore.

638
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: A there's not as much emotional capacity, it's not as

639
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: much time, right, so everything is.

640
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: Much more efficient.

641
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: Even your feelings about things feel like, well this, I'm

642
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: going to let this roll off because I just don't

643
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: have the energy to give to it. But I also

644
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: think the confidence for me as an artist walking through

645
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 2: even putting out a project pregnant, that was massive for me.

646
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: I think we might have even talked about that back

647
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: then on the podcast, because just the physical expectations that

648
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 2: we have for female artists, it's tough. It's tough to

649
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: live up to, and so that was huge for me.

650
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: And then for him to now be here gain confidence

651
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: in that season. Now I'm confidence knowing like I'm his mama,

652
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: I'm his Mama Bear. He's got Papa Bear here, like

653
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: whatever happens in his life we can't control every element

654
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 2: of it, but it's ours to sort of protect him

655
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: as much as we can. There's just a whole different

656
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: level of like assurance, confidence and making decisions that come

657
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: with that.

658
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 3: Do you feel that creeping into your creative lives at

659
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 3: all you make so long as you're.

660
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: Right, yes, being concisive.

661
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, your time efficiency changes. I mean with everything you

662
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 5: run you have to be so adamant about. Like when

663
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 5: you become parent, you just like really lock in, Like

664
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 5: I've got thirty five minutes, I'm gona knock this out.

665
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get like pre wit, we would just go like,

666
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: let's go do a two day somewhere. Let's just go

667
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: right for two days. We can have the strink tequila, like.

668
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 5: We would be so well sleep, Like let's just bring

669
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 5: one acoustic here, yeah, nine long string and then you're like.

670
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: Hey, god, no top for that now?

671
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 4: So once do I have a six string banjo?

672
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: Here we go Like now it's like, okay, we have

673
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: two hours after he goes to bed before we're exhausted.

674
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: Let's get a chorus. Let's like get a verse at

675
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: a chorus. We'll drink some red wine, but we're still

676
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: going to be up at six thirty no matter what.

677
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: So our efficiency creatively is so much more thanks to Sharp.

678
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 3: How much stuff have do you have recorded? The even

679
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 3: put out yet?

680
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: A little bit?

681
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: So we've done our first three sides with Dan Huff

682
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: of course Psychological as OUs, we've.

683
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: Done two more.

684
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 2: We go back in in March to grab three more.

685
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: So I think this whole album we're going to go

686
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: in batches of three?

687
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: Are you releasing them in batches of you know, you

688
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 3: have one song out, but are you doing like them

689
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: or are you going to do a whole album.

690
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: We're going to do a whole album, but we're going

691
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: to do the thing where we do a song at

692
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: a time leading to the full album.

693
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: So we're looking at like a fall a fall?

694
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 4: Really can I say album in the fall? Yeah?

695
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: Album in the fall.

696
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: What do you think about the culture of singles or

697
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: clusters or albums?

698
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: I like singles leading to albums. I can't.

699
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: My brain doesn't function in any other way other than

700
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: this is an era. This is like the ethos that

701
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: we're building for project. Yes, but I don't mind releasing

702
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: those songs one at a time because it would always

703
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: bum me out that you know, radio is such a

704
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: long journey, and it gives you exposure on a song

705
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: like no other. But I was always like, but what

706
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: about the other you know, ten songs on the album

707
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: that you may want to focus on. I do think

708
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: at least the single releases allow you to give each

709
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: song that you care about their moment.

710
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: Who's your favorite artist of all time?

711
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: Of all time?

712
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: Oh God, when you said that, I mean, I have

713
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: so many. But Freddy Mercury of Queen is probably like Queen. Yes,

714
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: but Freddy Mercury.

715
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: Should you share your queen story?

716
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: You have a queen story?

717
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: I too. I love a little bit of a queen story.

718
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: So since Literal day one, we've covered Fat Bottom Girls

719
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: and our shows and when we play acoustically we do

720
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: a bluegrass version of it. And so we were playing

721
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: for a Gibson event, Gibson Guitar event a couple months ago,

722
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: and the CEO of that company invited us to play. Yes,

723
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: It's aar and he had his phone out and I

724
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: was like, cool, he just wants to check out, you know,

725
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: the video of this later and he came up to

726
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: me after the show and he's like, listen to this,

727
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: And it was a voice note of Brian May.

728
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: He'd sent him the guitar player.

729
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: Yes, the guitar player. He had sent him our version

730
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: of this playing it live, and he was like, Oh,

731
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: tell them I think it's so beautiful and if they're

732
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: Evan London, I'd love to check out a show.

733
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: And I died and the best way I died. I

734
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: was so excited that band has just meant so much

735
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: to me.

736
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: Go to London.

737
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: I haven't been since the voicemail, but we're going to

738
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: and we're going to call Brian and he's going to

739
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: come see us play Fat Bottom Girls, the Bloyd Grass version.

740
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: We're manifesting.

741
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: What about your favorite artists of all time? Oh boy,

742
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: you gotta go one, just pick one.

743
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 4: I'm going to go Patty Griffin.

744
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: So that's good a lot. I lived in Austober twelve years.

745
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: I didn't know that that was my favorite city's ever. Yes,

746
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: still it's like the greatest.

747
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 5: It is. Why Patty Man, She's like one person that

748
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 5: can make me cry.

749
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 4: Like you hear there's some signs like oh Man, just

750
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: like Turnscreen, but you're just like Patty. I was not

751
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 4: ready to go deep on a Tuesday morning. Like her lyrics.

752
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 4: I don't know why.

753
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 5: It's her vocal. She means it like it's just her

754
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 5: songwriting is like it makes you get internally reflective on

755
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 5: stuff that's going on in your life.

756
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: Like I would see her and Robert Plant I like

757
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: Whole Foods.

758
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: That's crazy because they dated for a second, right, Yeah,

759
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: they were wild.

760
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: They'd be together, Whole Foods together. I don't know a

761
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: few years.

762
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I saw them one time in Leaper's work. Yeah,

763
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: m hm. And I was just like, it was all

764
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: my dreams just in one little wild.

765
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 4: It's wild.

766
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: It's also really crazy to see anybody famous out in

767
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: the wild totally, even though we're in a world of

768
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: we understand what the industry is and for sure everybody's normal.

769
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: Actually everybody's kind of cuckoo more so than normal. Right

770
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: to do this totally like you just got to be

771
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: like a screw loose. But it is always kind of

772
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: fun to see. I saw Jeremy Allen White, chef. My

773
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 3: wife and I saw him at What's the Health the

774
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: health food in l a store, Thank you. Air One.

775
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: We saw him at Air One, just chilling and I'm

776
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: never gonna bother anybody. And I was just like dude,

777
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: I I know fantasy school. That's crazy that it was

778
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: just like seeing a panda.

779
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: Wait, so did you go, say, of course not, did

780
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: you take a sneak?

781
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: I took nothing. Now wait till the Attornity Ward.

782
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: Video? Can I do the tour and the pregnancy?

783
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: I saw him and I was like, that's crazy, that's wild.

784
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: Like movie stars are a different level though in my opinion,

785
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: and maybe it's just because we do music and it's

786
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: cool to see like me as musicians in the wild.

787
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: The movie stars and TV stars are like.

788
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: I feel like athletes from when I was a kid. Yeah,

789
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: that's really Anything from when I was a kid is

790
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: cool total because I idolized certain people because I didn't

791
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: know any difference. Right, I'm twelve. So it's like first

792
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: time I met Garth Brooks, this is not Earth and

793
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: then to be become friends friends ish with Garth Brooks,

794
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: but like Mark Chestnut, Yeah, coming to play my studio, right,

795
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: It's like this is crazy. Wold like somebody that I, like,

796
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: you know, totally adored as a wrestlers. Don't even started, really,

797
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: don't even get me started. Yes, love, like if you

798
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: were like my one of my favorite celebrities.

799
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 4: Ever.

800
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: I have a white well list of three celebrities I've

801
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: never got to interview, and one of them is Staying

802
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: the wrestler, not the singer, but the wanstler. And I've tried.

803
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: I can't get him, really, I know, but it's but

804
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: it's like childhood. That's who it was for me. But

805
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: Freddie Marcy wasn't alive for you though.

806
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 4: I know.

807
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: But my dad was a big rock and roll fan,

808
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: and so he like we cut our tee's early, you know,

809
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: banned as we were forming. Me as an artists, I

810
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: would just do cover songs and like, listen to these songs,

811
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: figure out how to play guitar to them. But he,

812
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 2: Freddy Mercury shaped my like performance personality so much because

813
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: back then it wasn't like, oh, let me go find

814
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: a choreographer to help me figure what to do with

815
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: my hands. I would just watch the live aid film

816
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: over over and over, and he had like the Mike

817
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: stand that wasn't, you know planned.

818
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: He would like, it's just so dramatic.

819
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: Can I give you the unfair, probably incorrect interpretation of

820
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: your childhood that I have in my brain, please, that

821
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: your parents were a mix of Earlwoods and Joe Jackson

822
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: the dads right, because they were both so prolific that

823
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 3: Jackson five were so pro they were so good, they

824
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: were kids. They he was too hard on them. I'm

825
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 3: not saying about your dad, but to actually get kids

826
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: to be excellent at something extremely difficult. Earlwood's too hard

827
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: on Tiger but ended up being the greatest golfer of

828
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: all time. Was that at all what it was like

829
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: with your parents.

830
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: So I think they were hardest on us when it

831
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: came to our focus, Like it was like, hey, we

832
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: don't need distractions, so like when I wanted to date

833
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: and that sort of thing, and my brothers, it was

834
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: sort of like this is not getting you where you

835
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: want to go. So that part became a little bit complex,

836
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 2: like some of the just things that you know, young

837
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: kids and young adults are so focused on. They would

838
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: really encourage us strongly to like keep your eye on

839
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: the ball. But when it came to like the excellence

840
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: of like I go back when we sort of auditioned,

841
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: if you will, for all the labels in town. We

842
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 2: did that at our manager's office. Bob Doyle speaking of

843
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: Garth Brooks. Bob Doyle's office and we played acoustically and

844
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: I go back.

845
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: I still have a video of that. I was like, man,

846
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: that was good, but I can see it.

847
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 5: It was so tight, but it tested out of music

848
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 5: theory in like fifth grade.

849
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: I think I ruled it with the iron fist when

850
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: it came to.

851
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 5: Like your music knowledge, especially as a musician with a band,

852
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 5: is always like WHOA, she can change a key, redesign it,

853
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 5: and you're like.

854
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: But I had to work on that over the years

855
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: because as I also remember, like my brother's setting me

856
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: down at one point, they're like, you can, you can

857
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: be nicer about it.

858
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: Though you know, I'm the oldest.

859
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: It's so hard.

860
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: And I will say there came a time where I

861
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: did you know, and it was sort of like, let

862
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: me acquiesce to every voice that's around us right now

863
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 2: and just be a little more chill. And I don't

864
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: know that that served us well either, you know. So

865
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: I think it's like definitely a fine line between excellent.

866
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: You got to sharpen each other like for sure and

867
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: sharp me and sometimes it's going to poke a little bit.

868
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: But man, we can't get apathetic to it either. Because

869
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: they were hard on keeping us focused.

870
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: Did you get a prom.

871
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: I did, but I went to Southern Baptist School in Mobile, Alabama,

872
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: and so our prom was a banquet with karaoke.

873
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 4: So that was.

874
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, my dad's a p K.

875
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: All of his father and then all of my great

876
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: uncles were Southern Votist preachers, and my parents weren't like

877
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: as conservative as that. They're like, hey, go ahead, like

878
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: how the after party to work all you want? You know,

879
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: but the school, the school did not have a proper prom.

880
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 3: Did they want you to be a band more than you?

881
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 3: Guys wanted to be a band that young?

882
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I was completely obsessed with being

883
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: in a band. The first band I was in was

884
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: the worship band at that high school, at said Southern

885
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: medic school. My boyfriend played bass, and so we figured

886
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: out we could spend more time together if I was

887
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: the lead singer. And so he called me and invited

888
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: me to do this, and rehearsal was at his house.

889
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't sleep the night before.

890
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: I was like completely obsessed with making music with my

891
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: friends and my brothers. Eventually rehearsal got moved to our

892
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: living room. They observed that as very young boys, you know,

893
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: and they just were obsessed with jumping on the drums

894
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: and the bass as soon as these guys would go

895
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: out to like play basketball, and we loved it.

896
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: Were you allowed to listen tocular music?

897
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: There was a time when I did. There was a

898
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: time when my parents cut a deal with me to like,

899
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: if you'll give up it was the day. I'll tell

900
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: you what it was. I always talk about this on

901
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 2: stage where we played Kausic sets. I went to Walmart

902
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: one day in eighth grade and I was like, Mom,

903
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: I need these two CDs and it was Dina Carter's

904
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: Did I Shave my legs for this? And the Spice

905
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: Girls with like the Want I don't even know the

906
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: name of the album, but it was with the Wanna

907
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 2: Bee song on there, and I got no doubt Tragic Kingdom,

908
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: which on the back of I had a little you know,

909
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,959
Speaker 2: orange said sun pissed. And my mom got her hands

910
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: on all three of those records that she had just

911
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: bought for me at Walmart to like see what her

912
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: kid was listening to, and they came to cut a

913
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: deal with me. They were like, we'll replace all of

914
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: this music with Christian music, and we'll buy you a

915
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: new CD every month, but you can't listen to this

916
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: for a second.

917
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: And I did the deal for a minute, which was

918
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: formative for me too in a different way. She was

919
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: like jolly DC.

920
00:38:55,320 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: Talk and that's the golden era, the Floodstill it's really hard.

921
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: It was so good radio man, all of that.

922
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, you got a good time for them

923
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: to make that deal with you. Yeah. When did you

924
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: get to go back? Though?

925
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: It was like two years later because I think they

926
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: also understood the bounce off, Like but literally, she's going

927
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: to give her life to music, so we need to

928
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: make sure that she has all these music vitamins.

929
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 8: If you will, the Bobby cast will be right back.

930
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 8: This is the Bobby Cast.

931
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: I grew up very much in church. My grandmother was Pentecostal.

932
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 4: She raised me.

933
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: I grew up Southern Baptist. I was president of the FCA,

934
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: which is I felt Christian athletes like I did all

935
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 3: of that.

936
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

937
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 3: When I get going out of college, I got a

938
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 3: like a bucket of water dumped on me.

939
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

940
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: And I was then obsessed with learning about Socrates and Aristotle, Plato,

941
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: like all these philosophers and seeing and a bit I

942
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 3: felt like I was sinning by wanting to learn things

943
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: or other than what I had only been taught growing up. Right,

944
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 3: So that was a phase for me to just understand

945
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 3: that me wanting to learn more did not mean I

946
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: was doing wrong totally sure, because I felt that for

947
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 3: sure for a good almost a year, right, and I'm

948
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 3: still fascinated with philosophy. But because I was so in

949
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 3: church and then I wanted to learn about things that

950
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: I had never been exposed to, I definitely had a

951
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: generational run of learning about everything that Wasn't that right?

952
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 3: Did you have that?

953
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: Yes?

954
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 4: And no?

955
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: I think I definitely had that when it came to

956
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: the arts and my parents because my brother's homeschooled a

957
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: lot longer than I did, so with them, they would

958
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: have these moments called like homeschool moments, like we're gonna

959
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: allow you, like we should expose you to this record

960
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: or this move, like you guys need to branch out

961
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: a little bit, And so I think they were actually

962
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: really chill about making sure that culturally we had a

963
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 2: little bit of everything.

964
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 4: I am.

965
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: My own walk in faith never really had the moment

966
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: where it was like I can't remember who talks about this,

967
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: there's this pastor that talks about you know, you're in

968
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: this box and it sort of like everything that's given

969
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: to you and you have to do this thing where

970
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: you deconstruct it and then for a second you just

971
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 2: throw it all away, and then there's a third box

972
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: when you put the pieces together that you know you've

973
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: come to know and believe in make your faith your own.

974
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: And so I've never had sort of the phase where

975
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: I threw everything out of the box, but I definitely

976
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: because and that comes from the church construct a little bit.

977
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: I appreciate the church, but there have been moments of

978
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: being church hurt because I started music in the church.

979
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: When I stepped out, there were a lot of people,

980
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: even in our local church community that were like, well,

981
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: this is not the right thing to do. And I

982
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: just had a sense that like, no, like, I'm pretty

983
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: sure i know what God called me to do. You know,

984
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: he and I are talking about this, and so well,

985
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: there was a little bit of I didn't always appreciate

986
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: that church culture, pinning that on my purpose, but when

987
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: it came to the faith, that was always like I've

988
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: never had the moment that I threw everything out, but

989
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: it definitely has been refined and it's definitely been made mine.

990
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: You know.

991
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: You always say God doesn't have grandkids, you know, so

992
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: it's like it has to be ours and it's very individual.

993
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: That's interesting the box because I think I brought some

994
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 3: of those back in the box with me, but definitely

995
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 3: left a lot of them out ToxT three.

996
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: And that is your relationship, you know, with me.

997
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 3: I think what I hold on to from growing up

998
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 3: so deeply embedded in my church is that like they

999
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: took care of me a lot. Yeah, I don't have

1000
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 3: food a lot of times, so I got fed. I

1001
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: would Wednesday night, I would go and there was a

1002
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: security there.

1003
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1004
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 3: And like that's the stuff that I take with me

1005
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 3: to the box.

1006
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: Taking care of community and taking care of your family.

1007
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: Yes, because like those are my positive memories of my

1008
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: church is that there were people there that were like,

1009
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 3: we got you. We don't really know you that well, kid,

1010
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 3: but we know things ain't going so good, so we're

1011
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: going to help you eat like fundamental needs.

1012
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: That's so swee.

1013
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 3: But I like that third box, like you got your

1014
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: box because I definitely had to kick my way out

1015
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 3: of the box. Now I'm in a new box, and

1016
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 3: I'm like you know, I don't really love this box.

1017
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: So I go to the third box and I pulled

1018
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: some stuff from ver. Sure cool, And I think going

1019
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 3: to college to me and taking philosophy classes was big

1020
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 3: for me. There I'd have a philosophy teacher named doctor Green,

1021
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 3: and again I thought I was going to Hell. The

1022
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: first semester I took a philosophy class, I was like,

1023
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to Hell. I signed up for Hell. Basically,

1024
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: I thought I signed up right now called Hell class.

1025
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 3: And so we're learning fundamental and it all starts with Socrates, right,

1026
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: and I'm learning about you know, they're learning about the Cave,

1027
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: which is not Socrates. But I'm learning all this up.

1028
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 3: And I took him for a semester and then took

1029
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: him for a second semester. And it was then when

1030
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 3: I started to not have guilt about it, and I thought,

1031
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna do something I've never done before.

1032
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: I'm going to go and find this teacher and tell

1033
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 3: him how much that he meant to me. Even though

1034
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: he was not a person that stayed after class, was

1035
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: not super warm to that wasn't his vibe. He was

1036
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: there to teach freaking philosophy and get out older man,

1037
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: and I said, you know, I'm going to go on Monday.

1038
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: It was like a Wednesday or Thursday, and I'm going

1039
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: to go to his office hours because who goes to

1040
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: office hours? And I'm losers who goes? Losers go to

1041
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: office hours? And so I was going to go to

1042
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: his office hours on Monday and tell him how much

1043
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: that that meant to me growing as a person. And

1044
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: he died on Sunday. I never got to tell him,

1045
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: and I hold on to that, and I'm not perfect

1046
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: at it, but I think about that sometimes and go, man,

1047
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: if I got something I got to tell somebody, yes,

1048
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 3: wo like, I gotta do it. He freaking died on Sunday.

1049
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 3: How selfish of him.

1050
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: I can't believe.

1051
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: Did you know Monday I was coming to the news

1052
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 3: was coming?

1053
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 4: I know the validation he was.

1054
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: So impactful to me. I had no idea and I

1055
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 3: was good, but that moment is so impactful to me

1056
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 3: thinking back, and again, I am in no way perfect,

1057
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: but I do hold on to that and go, man,

1058
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: you know, I learned from that that if you got

1059
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: something to say somebody that meant something to you, you

1060
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 3: should probably just go ahead and say it. Yeah, totally sure,

1061
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: and that's fromally that experience. So what did you take

1062
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: from the first season of The Van Parry to now

1063
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: where maybe you had to learn a difficult lesson?

1064
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: Oh man, so many lessons. You know.

1065
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: The old cliche like hindsight is twenty twenty is so real.

1066
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: Between season one and season two, I think one thing

1067
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: that I've allowed myself to rest in and also find

1068
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: the energy for season two. Actually, Scott borschitt I said

1069
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: this to me a couple months ago. He was like,

1070
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 2: season one happened, All of that happened.

1071
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: It was so magical. Let it be magical.

1072
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: Now season two is going to happen, and it's going

1073
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: to be in a wholly different way, but it's not

1074
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: going to be less magical.

1075
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: We just got to rebuild it. This is day one.

1076
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: And that felt really cool to me to like not

1077
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: feel like you're choosing one thing over the other or

1078
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: in some ways they're not compatible. It's like, no, these

1079
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 2: things perfectly are married together. And are these two seasons

1080
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 2: in your life? I think the other difficult lesson that

1081
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: I learned the hard way was I was always so

1082
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: hyper fixated on like legacy and if your songs are

1083
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: making your legacy.

1084
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: You have to be obsessed with every.

1085
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: Single song that you put out, or you're undoing your legacy.

1086
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: And I really got tripped up, especially the second half

1087
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 2: of Pioneer. I did not love the decisions that were

1088
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: being made for the songs that were going to radio

1089
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 2: and sort of defining our career in that moment, and

1090
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 2: I made some pretty sweeping decisions to change the team

1091
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 2: because I didn't like those and felt like they were

1092
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: undoing our legacy at this point, compromise in the right

1093
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: way and understanding that it's a journey. There are going

1094
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: to be mountaintops, there are going to be some valleys.

1095
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: Your legacy is based on the whole story. I like

1096
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: have my head so much more wrapped around that now

1097
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: than I did in the moment. And I would tell

1098
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: little me, like, it's going to be okay, let's get

1099
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: through this song moment, talk about if it worked or

1100
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 2: if it didn't, and then you know, just make cooler

1101
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: decisions moving forward. So that was a hard lesson to learn.

1102
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: I think that it derailed some things that we had

1103
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: built for sure, But you.

1104
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 3: Mean just going screw this, We're out.

1105
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it wasn't exactly that, but I definitely changed

1106
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: so many I mean, we left our label over some

1107
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: of those things that now I'm back home with and

1108
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 2: I know now in hindsight and honestly did six months

1109
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: after leaving. It was like, oh no, that was the

1110
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: family that killed for us, you know, at that label.

1111
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: But it became so everything felt like.

1112
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 2: A life or death moment in those moments when it

1113
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: came to what was happening to our song legacy, and

1114
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: looking back, it was like, no, there was just like

1115
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: going to be the next song and we can just

1116
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: all sort of get on the same page with that.

1117
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: But it did not feel that way in the moment.

1118
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 2: And I just want to tell younger artists that too.

1119
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: Everything is so heightened. Like I wonder sometimes with all

1120
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 2: these superstars that are coming out of our format right now,

1121
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 2: like what does it feel to them in the moment

1122
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 2: right now? Because even now country music is such a

1123
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: bigger part of pop culture than it was when we

1124
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: started out, and there are just sort of these moments

1125
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: I feel like such a blur because it's all happening

1126
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: so fast, and sometimes you can't look back at those

1127
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: moments with clarity until you're out of it. But I

1128
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: feel for these younger artists, and it's just sort of

1129
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: like this is a marathon. There are going to be

1130
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: these peaks, there are going to be challenges, but it's

1131
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: your legacy.

1132
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 1: Is the whole through line, you know, the whole story.

1133
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, perspective. You only get it because you've been through.

1134
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: And that's hard.

1135
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: It's it's hard about it. If somebody would have told me, hey,

1136
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 3: everything's not so serious, I would have been like, you're old,

1137
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,479
Speaker 3: you have no idea. Yeah, that's literally how I would

1138
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: have reacted to it, because I was like a bowl

1139
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 3: in a china shop when I came to town, like

1140
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 3: I do not care. Also, I was so insecure, and

1141
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 3: that's a bad mix. When you're wildly insecure and you

1142
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 3: also know exactly what you want, you feel like people

1143
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 3: don't understand you. I was just I was kicking holes

1144
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: indoors and kissing people off and that showbiz baby. I

1145
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 3: wish I could shake that person and go it doesn't

1146
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: have to be just like this, Because I in any

1147
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: time I saw myself as not being exactly right or

1148
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 3: with like full attention towards something, it was weakness. I

1149
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 3: felt like people saw weakness in me. If I didn't

1150
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: know every little thing and why I was doing it,

1151
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 3: like you said, not the case. I wish I could

1152
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: tell somebody, but I don't want to be unk. Yeah,

1153
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: it's all though, it's efective gains doing it mostly doing

1154
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: it wrong, sometimes getting it right totally. But I completely

1155
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 3: feel what you're saying there, because again I just think

1156
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: to you as being somebody that right or wrong, knew

1157
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 3: exactly what she wanted.

1158
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And then you get to set your priorities,

1159
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: like is it based on just keeping this trajectory perfectly,

1160
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: you know, in the ascension position? Or is it being

1161
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 2: true to your song gut? Like we get to choose

1162
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: these priorities.

1163
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 3: You know, I want to do this exercise with you.

1164
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 3: I'll go first, so you don't think I'm just putting

1165
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 3: it on you. Okay, where do you think it went wrong?

1166
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 3: And where do you think it went right in your career?

1167
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 3: And I can go first. It was just a type

1168
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: of vamp because I'm putting it on you. I think

1169
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 3: for me, I was so afraid of making friends here

1170
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 3: because I did not think that anybody would like me

1171
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: for who I was, only for what I had and

1172
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 3: what I can provide them. That I made no friends

1173
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 3: everybody was an enemy, I would I was wrong. Yeah,

1174
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 3: I stremely wrong. That made me very prickly on purpose.

1175
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 3: But I was like, I will have no relationships in

1176
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: this industry because why do they like me? Nobody likes me,

1177
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 3: so they must only like me for what I can

1178
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: provide them. I was wrong. I'm actually pretty cool sometimes right,

1179
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 3: or I was right. Was just being consistent. Consistency is

1180
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: such currency, like the one thing. I don't do a

1181
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 3: lot of things great. I do everything really good. I

1182
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 3: don't think you have to be that great but occasionally,

1183
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 3: but if you're good and really good consistently and you

1184
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: show up, man, that is all of what success is about,

1185
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 3: because you can't really predict it in a business like

1186
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: this totally because there's nothing normal about this or the

1187
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 3: decisions being made. That's my wrong and right. I love

1188
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: that that and also wanted to give you time to

1189
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 3: think about your answer.

1190
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: No, that's amazing. Now I think where it went wrong or.

1191
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 2: What I did make a wrong decision about and maybe

1192
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 2: didn't pay attention to in the time. It was like

1193
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: when everything felt like other people, where I always would

1194
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: call it like creatively controlling me. I do think after

1195
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: having so many conversations, and really, now thinking back with

1196
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: hindsight of those moments, it was based out of love

1197
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: and them trying to protect the thing that we were

1198
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 2: building together versus just control so that I think we

1199
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: can ignore a lot of and I certainly did things

1200
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: by calling it something that maybe it's not, but it's

1201
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: like a nasty word like control, and then it just

1202
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: makes us like I won't be controlled by anybody. I

1203
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: do think it would have been smarter to pay attention

1204
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 2: to everybody who was in the trenches building that together

1205
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: in that moment and not just sort of plant my heels.

1206
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: What I think I did right is trust my artistic instinct,

1207
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: and again that's going to lead us in various places

1208
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: at different times, but I am very proud that I've

1209
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: done that since day one. I do think coming back

1210
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 2: in season two, I am trusting my artistic instinct fully

1211
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: and also.

1212
00:52:58,680 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: Have the like.

1213
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: The people skills at this point to explain my point

1214
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: of view and be open to really smart people's advice

1215
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: about my artistic guts.

1216
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 7: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

1217
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 7: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

1218
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: What do you think when she says all of that

1219
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 3: because you weren't here for all that.

1220
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 5: I know it's partial learning and then partial like, yeah,

1221
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 5: that makes sense. Like, I think there's just a confidence

1222
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 5: that Kimberly's had within music. Like I think so many

1223
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 5: people can do music. I think so many people can

1224
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 5: play music. I think so many people can have people

1225
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 5: write their albums for them and they can have a

1226
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 5: long career in music. I think Kimberly is someone who, yes,

1227
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 5: should be a recording artist, but has to be a

1228
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 5: performing artist. I watch her on stage and I'm like, man,

1229
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 5: she makes if it's a song she's written, or a

1230
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 5: song that is a pitch and that three songwriters wrote

1231
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 5: on music row, you know, super young, she still makes

1232
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 5: it feel intimate like she wrote it. You're like, that's

1233
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 5: her voice. Her voice has an ability to like give

1234
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 5: you a feeling of relatability, but also just like, is

1235
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 5: that what she's going through.

1236
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 4: I just think that's what it all makes sense.

1237
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: That's cool. I do love performing. It's my great love.

1238
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: The thing that I always liked about her. It's easier

1239
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 3: to tell you this even though she's here, because it'd

1240
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 3: be weird to be like, you know what I liked about.

1241
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: You guys, continue this.

1242
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 4: Do you want to elongate this?

1243
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: Should this be a two hour podcast today? Okay?

1244
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 3: What I liked about her was that I respected that

1245
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 3: you just didn't f with her. That honestly was it

1246
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 3: because like I got I there was a presentation of

1247
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: you were the boss, you were coming in everybody to

1248
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: get out of the freaking way, and I respected that

1249
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 3: I didn't. I don't always have to agree with her,

1250
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 3: but I always appreciated that about you. Thank you, because

1251
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: she was always the same. And I talk about consistency, man,

1252
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 3: I love people that are consistent. If you're super nice,

1253
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 3: you're super mean, you're in a bad mood, good mood,

1254
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 3: I like to know what I'm getting. And with you,

1255
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 3: even with the version one of the band with your

1256
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 3: brothers and now and you know, we don't hang out,

1257
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 3: but like I like you because I think I respect

1258
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 3: you because you just asked for what you wanted. And

1259
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 3: I think some people were afraid of you because of that,

1260
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: But I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I

1261
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 3: think you have and to be a woman in this industry,

1262
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 3: you have to be so much stronger. And I think

1263
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 3: that be word can get attached because and it's unfair

1264
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 3: because if a dude was doing it, it's just a

1265
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 3: strong dude. But if a woman's doing it, oh she's

1266
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 3: kind of a and I think that's so unfair. But

1267
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: that's what I liked about her. I knew what I

1268
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 3: was getting every time people were afraid of her. I

1269
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 3: liked that because I think people were like afraid of me,

1270
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 3: Like he's a guy.

1271
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 4: She's out here building that You're like.

1272
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 3: Loved that. I still really love that value.

1273
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1274
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 3: That's why I was excited that you were coming in.

1275
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 3: And I'm excited.

1276
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: Thank you for the invite.

1277
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 3: You guys are doing it again and the coup that

1278
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 3: you pulled on the VAMPIREO being back home, my goodness

1279
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 3: the most. It's awesome playing festivals.

1280
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 4: Now reads like No, No, No, Which brother.

1281
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: Came back for a minute? Read and then so how

1282
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 3: long was he in before he left again?

1283
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 2: So our very first show back we actually the catalyst

1284
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 2: for it was a hometown benefit show. We live in Greenville, Tennessee.

1285
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: Hurricane Heleen hit our town hard and there was I mean,

1286
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 2: what like five hundred families lost homes.

1287
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: It was crazy.

1288
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 5: It was like fifty four homes that needed to be rebuilt.

1289
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 5: Morgan Wong came in half dollars ten dollars, and then

1290
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 5: we finished the rest with the hometown benefit show to cover.

1291
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 5: By the next Christmas, we could get every house rebuilt.

1292
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: So that was in January. It's like, we're going to

1293
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: flip the lights on. This was like a good reason

1294
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: to come back together.

1295
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens.

1296
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 2: Neil was, of course making his solo projects, so Timing

1297
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: and Reid came on in from Josh wit stream and

1298
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 2: we just had so much fun, and so it was like,

1299
00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: should we play more shows this year?

1300
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: This was last year in twenty twenty five.

1301
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 5: Greed and I had played music during the hiatus together,

1302
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 5: so hence that's why it kind of that felt very organic.

1303
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he played a handful of shows.

1304
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: I think he was just like, I really I like

1305
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 2: my life out here, so he's doing artist management.

1306
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: He made that decision, I think in like October and

1307
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: the fall.

1308
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:16,959
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1309
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was cool we got to write that

1310
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: he'll have some songs on this new project that we

1311
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: wrote together, which was really cool.

1312
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: But that's what I love about country music.

1313
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: It allows you to evolve into exactly what you want

1314
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: to be and how you want to shape your life

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Speaker 2: and for him to be in artist management, everything that

1316
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: he learned from season one two is so cool that

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00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: he can give that to a young artist and help

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Speaker 2: shape where their future goes.

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00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 3: You know, we have a lot of people to come

1320
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: in and they I say donate, They donate great music,

1321
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: like an album that they love or that shape them.

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00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 3: Would you mind picking up the album that.

1323
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: You brought iy boy. We collectively chose this, but this

1324
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: was the one that he was like.

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00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 3: This, I've seen Ravonna Bleach, so tell me.

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00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: Why go ahead?

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00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 5: One bon This is the album that for purpose of

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00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 5: love for it, but also out of not choice, that

1329
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 5: we listened to the first week we started dating, I

1330
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 5: had been got a truck from a friend, Raylen. Baxter's

1331
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 5: dad was Bucky Baxter, pedal steel player for Bob Dylan,

1332
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 5: and he had passed and he gave me his old

1333
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 5: three hundred and sixty five thousand mile truck. Drove it

1334
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 5: from Kingston's Nashville, Tennessee, down to Austin, Texas, and this

1335
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 5: CD got stuck in it and I couldn't like. I

1336
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 5: took off the interface. I could not get this CD

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00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 5: out of it. So we just listened the first week

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00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 5: we started dating, I listened to it for I had

1339
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 5: that six months before, so I listened to the CD

1340
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 5: for seven months. It physically defines the Bleach where blonde

1341
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 5: hair bleach all black. We always wear black leather, so

1342
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 5: it kind of fits the function. But the song about

1343
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 5: a girl on it is kind of a song we

1344
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 5: kept going back to, and it's like Nirvana's spirit. I

1345
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 5: feel like very much fits this new season too, the

1346
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 5: clop of what we're trying to go into.

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Speaker 2: I just really want to be the country Kurt and

1348
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: Courtney truthfully.

1349
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 4: M m wit spirit.

1350
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 5: Our little kid is just I call him litt Kimberly.

1351
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh boy, here comes little Kimberly. He's just

1352
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 5: running through that as he's like, mom, possible.

1353
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 4: It was.

1354
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: You'll eat a dozen.

1355
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 2: But this was quite a vibe driving through Dallas, Texas,

1356
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: meeting the brand new love of your life and having

1357
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: the Bleach album stuck in the CD player of a

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00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: track that had how many miles on it?

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00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 4: I mean sixty five? I think it passed. Yeah.

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00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a Nirvana nerd because it was just

1361
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: the age.

1362
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1363
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 3: So if you're me, Nirvana was a big part of

1364
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 3: your childhood, and I didn't get to Bleach, which was

1365
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 3: before the big stuff, until I until I totally demolished

1366
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 3: their current record. So I wasn't cool enough being from

1367
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 3: Arkansas to have heard Bleach. But then I ate Bleach

1368
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 3: up after I was just looking for anything right after

1369
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 3: Kirk died, You're like, I was chasing live recordings, and

1370
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 3: so then I listened to Bleach a lot, and then

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00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 3: you know, some of those songs ended up being on

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00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 3: what's one of my favorite albums of all time, which

1373
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 3: is kind of a cheat, but I love the Nirvana

1374
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 3: Unplugged Live of New York.

1375
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 1: Oh it's so good.

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01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 4: It's the greatest it's ever been recreated.

1377
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 3: Like it's so the greatest. It's amazing, And I feel

1378
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 3: like a cheater because you can't really pick a greatest hits.

1379
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 3: But they're also doing David Bowie. They're also they're also

1380
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 3: doing a lot of songs and they're doing them in

1381
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: different ways, and yeah.

1382
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: So just so killer.

1383
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 3: I'm a big Bleach guy.

1384
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: Thank you for letting us contribute.

1385
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: I can't wait to add it to the to the

1386
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 3: collect stash. So I guess my final question is, you

1387
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 3: know you put out this new song like, why this

1388
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 3: song psychological?

1389
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know I love a good psycho girl

1390
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: love song. I mean I felt like it was better

1391
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: Dig two's kid's sister. We love bold moves here obviously

1392
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 2: in the Vampiri, I felt like, of everything that we've

1393
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 2: recorded so far, this song, to me was the perfect

1394
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 2: balance of like the poetry that I love and oj

1395
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 2: og VAMPII songs, but it feels perfectly seated in twenty

1396
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: twenty six country music. Everything is so exciting. These artists

1397
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 2: in this format are like, you know, swinging for the

1398
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: fences out here, and I felt like this was equal

1399
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: parts bold move but also reminiscent of if you loved

1400
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 2: our band from the beginning, you're probably gonna love this song.

1401
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 3: Do you play all the hits on tour? Yes, and

1402
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 3: you feel better about playing all the hits versus.

1403
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: As Kimberly Perry. That just did not feel natural to me. Again,

1404
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm so happy I made that album, but I was

1405
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 2: just like, this is this doesn't feel right.

1406
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed this. I normally don't like having an

1407
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 3: interview with more than one person, well because I feel

1408
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 3: like I've got to like make people like if I'm

1409
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 3: talking to you for a while. Then I got to

1410
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: reach over and give a little rub on the head,

1411
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 3: like that's really like something. I hate interving fool bands.

1412
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: That's so funny.

1413
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 3: I love old dominion. I don't like having them all

1414
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 3: right right because I like all those guys individually, and

1415
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 3: you just want to make everybody feel felt. This felt

1416
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: good to me. I hope it felt good to you.

1417
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.

1418
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 4: When is baby coming?

1419
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 3: That's a great question, one that I will not answer

1420
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 3: on microphone.

1421
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: Amazing, But when that is here, you guys, give us

1422
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: a call.

1423
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: Do you have any questions if you need us to

1424
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 2: go chase anybody out of the attorney award?

1425
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: We got you?

1426
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that really I've never told that story. That

1427
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 3: fired me up. And I don't react. My baseline right here,

1428
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 3: right here, never too high, never too low. I got

1429
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 3: pretty fired out. I believe it about that. Uh yeah,

1430
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 3: I hope you guys. I wish you the best of success.

1431
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, And obviously I think the world

1432
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 3: of you and I just got to know you. And

1433
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 3: I'm glad you didn't die your hair blonde just for

1434
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 3: this now.

1435
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 5: But if you would, if I'd have been like, that's

1436
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 5: a Coop, I'm like, I'm not fully natural blonde, but.

1437
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 1: Definitely we're now more naturally gray.

1438
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 3: But do you share the same hair, Yes, we do.

1439
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 5: Of course the band Harry, I know we do want

1440
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 5: to do a hairspray and we'll call it a share

1441
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 5: spray because I feel like that's the vibe of what

1442
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 5: we do for sure.

1443
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 3: Hope you guys have a great time on the road.

1444
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 3: Good look at the new music. There they are the

1445
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 3: band Perry.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for listening to Bobby cast Production