Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. I'm that for me, I'm
Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
Speaker 1: for Dake Edith State? Is that woo woom? And Dan
Speaker 1: and Thy Welcome back to the solid verbal, Boys and girls.
Speaker 1: My name is Ty Hildebrand. I am over here in
Speaker 1: beautiful Allentown, Pennsylvania. Joining me over there in beautiful New
Speaker 1: York City a fine gentleman, my colleague, co host of
Speaker 1: many years. You know him as Dan Rubinstein. Sir, how
Speaker 1: are you? I am jacked up? Tie, Yeah, I am
Speaker 1: jacked up.
Speaker 2: And I actually just filled out a new passport application
Speaker 2: and it does ask if you are known by any
Speaker 2: other names. So that just sort of triggered me when
Speaker 2: you said he is known by I don't think I
Speaker 2: have any other name.
Speaker 1: You don't have any any nefarious aliases? No, I hope
Speaker 1: that I never do. But I'm great, Ty. Life is good.
Speaker 2: The Espianation College football crew is in town for a
Speaker 2: couple of planning meetings, so it's always good to see
Speaker 2: the faces that are you know, always over Slack or
Speaker 2: email or Skype. So it's you know, Bill C and
Speaker 2: Stephen Godfree. I'm very excited to meet I've never met
Speaker 2: Morgan Moriarty, who's new to the team. So all sorts
Speaker 2: of fun things are happening, which means I think we'll
Speaker 2: be eating a lot of food in the Yeah, forty
Speaker 2: eight to seventy two hours, which is great.
Speaker 1: How much time would you say, collectively, you as a
Speaker 1: as a singular entity in the foody world, have put
Speaker 1: into what kind of eating arrangements there will be during
Speaker 1: said meetings.
Speaker 2: So we planned tomorrow Night's like nicer meal a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Myself and Ryan plan that. But I
Speaker 2: don't know what I'm having for dinner tonight. We don't
Speaker 2: know we're having for lunch tomorrow. It's tough because there's
Speaker 2: gonna be like seventeen or eighteen of us total, so
Speaker 2: with video crew and everything like that. But generally, I
Speaker 2: just in my own head, I'll give it a considerable
Speaker 2: amount of thought. Yeah, I figured out, Okay, I want
Speaker 2: everybody to get a real New York experience.
Speaker 1: Ty, did I take you to Los Tacos Number one
Speaker 1: in Los Marie's. Yeah, you took care, So I give
Speaker 1: you the taco Bang Bang you gave me the taco
Speaker 1: bang bang. Yeah. I appreciate that very much. I'm a
Speaker 1: taco fan. Okay, good, I'm glad you've come so far
Speaker 1: since two thousand and eight. I have, I really have
Speaker 1: Okay iTunes dot com slash Solid Verbal. Oh yeah, if
Speaker 1: you like the show, we'll be here all off season.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the hell out of the show we did
Speaker 1: a week ago. It was a fun one. Right, this
Speaker 1: is it. Go back and listen to it if you
Speaker 1: didn't yet, or even if you just want to hear
Speaker 1: the sound clips again. That was your idea for a
Speaker 1: little off season game that we can play. And of course,
Speaker 1: now this show is dropping on March first, and whoa
Speaker 1: coming in? Hot? Okay? Have you ever heard of the
Speaker 1: common expression that March comes in like a lion and
Speaker 1: goes out like a lamb? Ty?
Speaker 2: Because I am not an aunt in Kenosha, Wisconsin, I
Speaker 2: have not. You have not heard I when you asked
Speaker 2: me about this and we're telling me about Tridia, I
Speaker 2: had never heard of that expression.
Speaker 1: See, Southern California has spoiled you, my friend, in like
Speaker 1: a lion and out like a lamb? Has has the
Speaker 1: Solid Fiance heard of this expression?
Speaker 2: I actually didn't ask her. I imagine she has. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's no weather in southern California that would come in
Speaker 2: like a lion, So everything's cool in March.
Speaker 1: In like a lion, out like a lamp. So it's
Speaker 1: I'm guessing something most people listening to this show have
Speaker 1: heard of. But if not, allow me to explain the
Speaker 1: month of March for those of us who don't live
Speaker 1: in southern California. Typically we'll start off in cold, unpleasant
Speaker 1: some would say ferocious fashion weatherwise, but then as the
Speaker 1: expression goes, it ends in a mild and pleasant and
Speaker 1: peaceful manner, just like a lamb, right in like a lion,
Speaker 1: out like a lamp. In the college football world, mister Rubinstein,
Speaker 1: there are a number of players and coaches, teams, all
Speaker 1: sorts of things that enter twenty seventeen, and what I
Speaker 1: would say is a rather un certain and tumultuous state. Sure,
Speaker 1: all right, it makes sense, and so this game today
Speaker 1: in like a lion. It is gonna be incumbent on
Speaker 1: you and I to determine whether these things go out
Speaker 1: like a lion, or go out like a lamb, or
Speaker 1: go out like any other creature in the animal Kingdom.
Speaker 1: We're not just gonna limit it to a lamb or
Speaker 1: lion or anything, but all of them to some degree,
Speaker 1: are entering twenty seventeen in the season, in the off season,
Speaker 1: and the long doldrums of summer, like a lion licking
Speaker 1: some wounds. That's right. So I've got a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff before me, which I was hoping to discuss. Really,
Speaker 1: we're just trying to trying to look a little bit
Speaker 1: into the crystal ball, Gonna have some fun with animal sounds,
Speaker 1: you know, all the usual stuff. Love it. We're gonna
Speaker 1: jump right in here. If you're ready. I'm ready, Ty,
Speaker 1: Let's start coming in like a lion. Man, that's ferocious.
Speaker 1: It is coming in like a lion. Is Butch Jones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Currently the head football coach at Tennessee. He has recruited
Speaker 1: the hell out of Tennessee football, done a really good
Speaker 1: job bringing in talent and last year Dan you could
Speaker 1: definitely make a case that he had the most talented
Speaker 1: team in the SEC East. Fought some injuries, had some
Speaker 1: close wins, some bad losses, but by a large had
Speaker 1: a very talented team. The Tennessee hype train was running hot,
Speaker 1: real hot at the start of the show at the
Speaker 1: start of the year. Clearly that did not work out.
Speaker 1: Did not work out, No, And I would say no.
Speaker 1: So it was a tumultuous finish to Tennessee season. And
Speaker 1: now I think it's rather uncertain for him. Butch Jones
Speaker 1: as he now enters twenty seventeen, Dan, Butch Jones enters
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen as a lion, he will go out as
Speaker 1: a do you want me to answer? Please? Please? Okay,
Speaker 1: just making sure.
Speaker 2: So Tennessee and Butch Jones something that the Internet loves
Speaker 2: talking about and enjoying, you know, not always because they're good,
Speaker 2: but just they just appealed to the Internet. And I
Speaker 2: would say that their progress has been slow moving, fair
Speaker 2: to say, yeah, so what I'm feeling right now more
Speaker 2: of the same. We're gonna like gawking, but we're not
Speaker 2: going to see a ton of motion, a ton of
Speaker 2: movement as they try to ascend to the college football glitterati.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to say in like a lion, out
Speaker 2: like and I had never heard this animal speak, and
Speaker 2: the sounds of this animal before, out like a sloth.
Speaker 1: A sloth, I need to play that again, A sweat
Speaker 1: a All right, So what what's sort of the sound
Speaker 1: that Butch Jones makes every single time a Tennessee player
Speaker 1: gets hurt. I was thinking that, So, what what qualities
Speaker 1: of the slow are you applying here to your logic?
Speaker 1: Internet loves sloths? Right, Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: The Internet does love a good sloth, sloth, very slow moving.
Speaker 2: I explained this at the top tie. I just don't
Speaker 2: believe Tennessee the progress has been glacial. They're fine, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I just think they're gonna be out like a sloth.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen more of the same. They have to
Speaker 2: replace a good amount they are. And to honor our
Speaker 2: good friend Bill C, the immortal, the number one everything
Speaker 2: in college football, I believe, and I have this in
Speaker 2: front of me, Tennessee is one hundred and ninth in
Speaker 2: the country in returning production in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I sort of feel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty one percent of their production is coming back,
Speaker 2: which is good for one hundred and ninth in the
Speaker 2: country out of all if.
Speaker 1: That's usually indicative of a step back. And I'm glad
Speaker 1: you brought up the total production returning stats that Bill
Speaker 1: C has put out there, because I've I'm going to
Speaker 1: reference that here in a little bit of well simbodycoat.
Speaker 1: So you're saying a sloth, do you do? Thank you?
Speaker 1: Do you think that Butch Jones is going to be
Speaker 1: employed at Tennessee in twenty eighteen? No? I agree? Do not? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I agree, And I'm not going to go the sloth route, Okay.
Speaker 1: I am instead going to go with another big presence
Speaker 1: in the animal kingdom sort of slobbery, certainly bark being
Speaker 1: worse than his bite. I am told that that is
Speaker 1: the authentic barking sound of a Saint Bernard. Okay. St
Speaker 1: Bernard's are very helpful. Though they're helpful, they're nice. He's
Speaker 1: never gonna like attack the intruder, you know, He's just
Speaker 1: gonna be there and hope maybe that the intruder gets
Speaker 1: scared away because he's such a big dog.
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say, because Butch Jones
Speaker 2: looks like he could be the number three villain in Beethoven. Okay,
Speaker 2: that Saint Bernard makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: But okay, you can have yours too, going Saint Bernard.
Speaker 1: All right? Up next, let's stay on the coaching side. Please,
Speaker 1: let's talk about a gentleman who went seven and five
Speaker 1: last season, Dan, h we might be wondering, well, how
Speaker 1: did he do in twenty fifteen. It's funny you should
Speaker 1: ask you went seven and five regular season in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: You might say, all right, well two in a row
Speaker 1: is what's that? How do you do in twenty fourteen
Speaker 1: went six and six Water Bowl game over Texas went
Speaker 1: seven and six overall. I'm talking about Brett Beilama, Bert
Speaker 1: Beilima Bert at Arkansas, Dan, are you not going to
Speaker 1: play the sound I have this? I have to pull
Speaker 1: it up here. I have a whole animal soundboard that
Speaker 1: I've compiled here. So we'll get to the Bert sound
Speaker 1: here when you least expect it. But I think it's
Speaker 1: fair to say that Brett Beelama now enters twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: like a bit of a line maybe not like Moufasa,
Speaker 1: but certainly as a himba, you know, a lining cub there.
Speaker 1: There's definitely some uncertainty and some tumultuousness in the situation
Speaker 1: that he currently finds himself Dan. So sure, for the
Speaker 1: purposes of our little game here, Brett Bieleman enters like
Speaker 1: a lion, he goes out like a So my line
Speaker 1: of thinking is I'm going with pitbull here, pitbull. So
Speaker 1: I'm going with a ferocious pit bull, but not the
Speaker 1: one you're thinking of. Ty, You're not going Daley here, right, Okay, No,
Speaker 1: I am going so you are going Dollay. I think
Speaker 1: no matter what happens in twenty seventeen with Arkansas, Ret
Speaker 1: Bilma's still gonna have a good time. I think he's
Speaker 1: literally going out like a like the literal person pitbull.
Speaker 2: Not Yeah, there's something consistent about Brett Bielima, you know,
Speaker 2: in what he wants out of offense and what his
Speaker 2: team sort of seems to finish the season as like
Speaker 2: they seem to end with promise, even though this year
Speaker 2: the Bowl game probably less so. But I think there's
Speaker 2: there's going to be that consistent energy from Bett Brett Beilama,
Speaker 2: even if he's fired after this year, I still think.
Speaker 1: He's going out like fitball. All right, Well I have
Speaker 1: the sound, Oh there it is there you go, just
Speaker 1: for you, thank you. What is he going out with?
Speaker 1: In your way? I'm saying a cheetah. Really, I'm saying
Speaker 1: a cheetah because if he's already a lion, a cheatah
Speaker 1: is the same basic cat mm hmm. But a lot
Speaker 1: better at running okay, and that's really the main difference.
Speaker 1: Arkansas struggled to run the football consistently a year ago,
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to point to that as the
Speaker 1: sole reason why they didn't perform better than seventy five
Speaker 1: regular seasons seven and six if you count the Bowl
Speaker 1: loss to Virginia Tech. But it was one of the
Speaker 1: elements that I think a lot of people looked at
Speaker 1: and said, Wow, this is this is not something we're
Speaker 1: accustomed to seeing. We like Rolly Williams, Rowley Williams is
Speaker 1: gonna be really good. But they just didn't get the
Speaker 1: production in the line up front. They did in some games,
Speaker 1: they didn't in others. It was just a really inconsistent
Speaker 1: offensive effort, especially when it comes to running the football.
Speaker 1: So I think they will improve that in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: The problem is that the SEC is always really good.
Speaker 2: We could also reference the linebackers in the open field
Speaker 2: chasing after speedier players on other SEC teams or other
Speaker 2: teams in general, and just to hit that sloth sound again, TI,
Speaker 2: we could go sloths sound.
Speaker 1: We could go sloth again, and I don't think you'd
Speaker 1: be wrong about that, But I'm feeling pretty much the
Speaker 1: same trajectory for Brett Bielma in twenty seventeen is twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: but maybe some improvement running the football, which is why
Speaker 1: I say cheetah. Okay. Also, did you know that a
Speaker 1: cheetah when it's not or growling, makes like a really
Speaker 1: high pitched meowing sound. Do you have the sound? I
Speaker 1: don't have the sound, but I was listening to it
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Yeah, damn it really high pitched. Okay, Uh,
Speaker 1: where do you want to be? Watch? Have you watched
Speaker 1: any of the Planet Earth too yet? All I've seen
Speaker 1: so far is that clip of the iguana versus the snakes. Oh,
Speaker 1: the little lizard, not iguana, but yeah, the tiny little lizard. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh incredible. I have the best sports highlight of the year.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything else so far, but neither of
Speaker 1: them forward to it.
Speaker 2: I am so excited. Have we let's see isn't really
Speaker 2: I mean, there's smoky, but that's you know, the volunteer
Speaker 2: is not an animal. Uh, we've got the razorback. I
Speaker 2: love I love good nature documentaries and wild boar razorback
Speaker 2: kind of thing. Suey Oh, yeah, I would absolutely watch that.
Speaker 1: So you're a big fan of the animal Kingdom, and
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't used to be a fan of animals.
Speaker 1: What how do you what I did possible? I didn't
Speaker 1: used to take animal seriously. I just didn't like I
Speaker 1: would if I were cornered by a bear or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then you wouldn't. You wouldn't watch Animal Planet? Not really,
Speaker 1: not really. This is another thing that the solid wife
Speaker 1: has now introduced into my life. This is why I'm
Speaker 1: a better man.
Speaker 2: What is your number one? Animal Planet? Nature documentary type.
Speaker 1: Show? Not the show itself, but subject. What animal are you?
Speaker 1: Just like I can't get I know you love space,
Speaker 1: but like, what animal can you not get enough of? Seals? Really?
Speaker 1: That's an interesting answer, I got. I gotta go seals? Yeah,
Speaker 1: why seals? Just a good sea line? Scratches me right
Speaker 1: where I itch it always happened. But like you, you
Speaker 1: would watch footage, a lot of footage of seals doing
Speaker 1: their thing. Yeah. Do you prefer the aquatic or the
Speaker 1: land portion of the seals life? I prefer the seal pups. Actually,
Speaker 1: see I love a good elephant seal. Okay, yeah, but
Speaker 1: my number one is the orca, the killer Well, we
Speaker 1: talked about this before, which which says a lot about
Speaker 1: about our dynamic. Yeah, that you're more of a prey
Speaker 1: guy and I'm more of a predator guy. Interesting. Also,
Speaker 1: monkeys gotta I love a good monkey. It's hard not
Speaker 1: to like the monkeys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: know how we got talking about this, but okay, we
Speaker 1: were talking about the SEC. So let's let's stay in
Speaker 1: the SEC as a whole. We'll come back to There
Speaker 1: are a couple other SEC topics here that maybe we
Speaker 1: can address. But I want to talk about something I'm
Speaker 1: going to refer to here, coming in like a lion,
Speaker 1: very ferociously. SEC Conference superiority, Dan, did you know that
Speaker 1: only one team last season had fewer than four losses?
Speaker 1: I did now that time we've been over this. The
Speaker 1: East has no clear cut favorites at all. The conference
Speaker 1: has a quarterback problem, which maybe we can discuss a
Speaker 1: little bit later. And for the first time in forever,
Speaker 1: the discussion was not about the SEC being the best conference.
Speaker 1: We were talking about the Big Ten. We were talking
Speaker 1: about the ACC. Dan, For how long was the SEC
Speaker 1: this planetary body around which the fabric of college football bent?
Speaker 1: This past year? Not so much the case, not great,
Speaker 1: not great. Only one team with hewer than four losses
Speaker 1: coming in like a lion Dan, it will go out
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna say a bear, Okay, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say bear because what is a bear market? Ty? Bear
Speaker 1: Market's a bad market. It's not a great market. Some
Speaker 1: people are selling. Yeah, I like the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: I just I'm not seeing complete teams perhaps other than
Speaker 2: Alabama that I believe in at this point, returning talent wise,
Speaker 2: A lot of questions about LSU, A lot of questions
Speaker 2: about texts A and M, and if they're gonna turn
Speaker 2: any sort of corner.
Speaker 1: Tennessee.
Speaker 2: We talked about the loss of production there, lost of
Speaker 2: production with Arkansas. Florida's quarterback situation is Luke del Rio.
Speaker 2: The long term answer is at Felipe Franks, Georgia. We
Speaker 2: have no idea if that offense can take a step
Speaker 2: forward that I have very little confidence. So right now
Speaker 2: I'm bearish on the UH on the SEC. But also
Speaker 2: I think there's a bit of a hibernation situation. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think the old Miss situation. You know, we were
Speaker 2: hurting depth in the West, So I don't have a
Speaker 2: bear sound, but I know you were talking before the
Speaker 2: show that you're very good at roaring.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I could do the roar
Speaker 1: Dan Okay, so I don't have a bear sound. I
Speaker 1: could try a roar if you want.
Speaker 2: No, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna compromise and
Speaker 2: let's go with here we go. I found it.
Speaker 1: This is this is bear. Okay, Yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go out like a bear. I think
Speaker 1: it goes out like a lamb. I think there's a
Speaker 1: chance the SEC could return to being the best conference
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, nice and comfortable. I think there's a
Speaker 1: chance could happen. And again, there are going to be
Speaker 1: plenty of teams in the Big Ten that I think
Speaker 1: take a step back. Michigan loses a lot. They've recruited well,
Speaker 1: but they lose a lot. Penn State, despite the fact
Speaker 1: that they had an incredible renaissance a year ago. I
Speaker 1: think there's a chance that they could take a step back.
Speaker 1: I'm just not certain they continue on the same path
Speaker 1: that we saw last year. And in the ACC obviously,
Speaker 1: Clemson loses Deshaun Watson, Louisville loses some contributors on both
Speaker 1: sides of the football. Florida State I think should still
Speaker 1: be pretty rock soylid, but I don't know if the
Speaker 1: Hives are quite as high in the ACC as they
Speaker 1: were last season. So I think there's a chance there's
Speaker 1: an opening there for the SEC. There actually is an
Speaker 1: opening there for the Pac twelve as well, which I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll get into at some point here. But I
Speaker 1: think the SEC is in really good position to regain
Speaker 1: that superiority. So I think in like a line out,
Speaker 1: like a la, I'm just like the expression says, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm aac all day, all right? Moving on, Yes, football
Speaker 1: in the great state of Tejas, Dan, Yes, football in
Speaker 1: the state of Texas undeniably comes in like a lion.
Speaker 1: There is uncertainty. TCU went what six and seven, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't great. A year ago, Texas went five and
Speaker 1: seven and fired their coach, hired Tom Herman but fired
Speaker 1: their coach. Texas A and M went eight and five
Speaker 1: on the year for the third consecutive season. And that's
Speaker 1: not even counting Cliff Kingsbury at Texas Tech going five
Speaker 1: and seven, Cliffs still not fixing his defense, And what's
Speaker 1: going on at Baylor, which is a mess for reasons
Speaker 1: beyond just football. New coach, new coach, new coach. But
Speaker 1: five teams, five big teams right there that I've listed
Speaker 1: that I think would undeniably put them in a place
Speaker 1: of relative uncertainty as we head into twenty seventeen dance.
Speaker 1: So football in the Great State of Texas coming in
Speaker 1: like a lion going out like, well, first of all,
Speaker 1: you're disrespecting UTSA and the Roadrunners. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: A nice year. I would add a nice year five
Speaker 2: and three in conference six and seven overall, but considering
Speaker 2: where they've come from, Yeah, a nice It's a bull team.
Speaker 1: Tie. You watch yourself. I'm going to say, in like
Speaker 1: a lion, out like a bull, like a bull, like
Speaker 1: a bull. Tie. Is that a real That is a
Speaker 1: real bull sound? Where did you find that? I cannot
Speaker 1: tell you, Tye. I went out into nature and secretly
Speaker 1: recorded that is a real bull sound because in like
Speaker 1: a bull. It's partially because the longhorn thing. Yes, longhorns
Speaker 1: are bulls, but also because TCU second in the nation
Speaker 1: in returning production, Texas sixth to the nation in returning production.
Speaker 1: We're talking about both sides of the ball. UTSA eighteenth tie.
Speaker 1: I do my homework Baylor ninety third, so gonna take
Speaker 1: some time, going to take some time in Waco. But
Speaker 1: the TCU in Texas thing, to me is interesting because
Speaker 1: of the experience, because of the quarterback experience. I NOWTCU
Speaker 1: is sort of up in the air, but I have
Speaker 1: a certain degree of trust with TCU that they just
Speaker 1: don't have that many lower years in a row. Now
Speaker 1: with how good Gary Patterson has done building a staff
Speaker 1: and dealing with attrition, Texas wise, Charlie Strong clearly didn't
Speaker 1: work out. Tom Herman very good in terms of getting
Speaker 1: buy in overhauling. I think Texas is going to play
Speaker 1: a lot closer to its potential in twenty seventeen. Texas
Speaker 1: is not back, but in terms of improvement, Clay Helton
Speaker 1: add how many months at USC to cross the fifty
Speaker 1: multiple times against Ali Obama to so as good as
Speaker 1: Clay Helton turn did turning around USC last year, Tom
Speaker 1: Herman does have an advantage early in getting this Texas
Speaker 1: team ready early on in the season getting by in
Speaker 1: overhauling culture. I am bullish, so I'm going to say
Speaker 1: they're out like a bull. TCU. That's a very convincing
Speaker 1: bull Dan, Thank you, TCU. At twenty seventeen, you mentioned
Speaker 1: about the returning production. They're actually the top Power five
Speaker 1: team in that metric according to what Bill c has
Speaker 1: to have. Number two FBS. Yeah, number two FBS, number
Speaker 1: one Power five and they're mostly young. They've got some
Speaker 1: turnover up front on defense, but they do bring a
Speaker 1: lot back, which is why they are so high in
Speaker 1: these rankings. It wouldn't be inconceivable for them to take
Speaker 1: a step forward. You mentioned Texas, they're going to get
Speaker 1: better on offense, they're going to get better on defense.
Speaker 1: Obviously Tom Herman comes over, but he's sort of just
Speaker 1: the head liner. Todd Orlando came over too, and he
Speaker 1: did great work at Houston, so I think there's some
Speaker 1: promise there. On the other hand, I could see A
Speaker 1: and M taking a step back because they lose a
Speaker 1: lot in both sides of football. The quarterback situations still
Speaker 1: kind of up in the air. Texas Tech is losing
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and I think that's going to be a
Speaker 1: backbreaker for them. And then Baylor, I don't really have
Speaker 1: an opinion on. There's so much going on on the
Speaker 1: Baylor side that it's hard to really look at it
Speaker 1: from a pure football standpoint, I say pitbull, but not
Speaker 1: the good kind. Not the good kind. I'm saying pitbull.
Speaker 1: Still ferocious, still very unpredictable and uncertain, but easier to
Speaker 1: train and mostly friendlier than a lie. Oh we should
Speaker 1: also mentioned TCU lost foster, Sawyer sailor spy. That's right. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's tough. So I say a real pit bull. That
Speaker 1: was another authentic pit bull.
Speaker 2: Listen, Ty, we both went with real pitbulls in our
Speaker 2: own way.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the great month of March coming in
Speaker 1: like a lion. Maybe going out with some salmon picata
Speaker 1: with orzo and broccoli. Ooh ooh, yeah, I'm listening. Or
Speaker 1: some pork chops and misa butter with bockchoi and marinated apple.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's umami written all over that. Or
Speaker 1: a little vegetable chili and baked sweet potatoes with crispy
Speaker 1: tortilla strips. Or last but not least, spicy shrimp coconut
Speaker 1: curry with cabbage and rice. Does that sound good? Or
Speaker 1: what that sound?
Speaker 2: I'm my stomach is literally growling as you say that, Ty,
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Speaker 1: is so ferocious, dan Ty, Can I ask you something?
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of chapulinas? No?
Speaker 2: Neither had I until relatively recently. The name of the
Speaker 2: food grasshopper?
Speaker 1: Tie grasshopper? Would you eat grasshopper? An or not? Not?
Speaker 1: If I knew it was a grasshopper?
Speaker 2: I had it both in Mexico and in Houston. It's
Speaker 2: pretty good grass Go out of my way for it.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. It's a sustainable protein, A little smoky.
Speaker 2: How do you cook How do you cook a grasshopper?
Speaker 2: I think you sort of cut them up, and then
Speaker 2: you toss it like in a saute pan, with like
Speaker 2: some garlic and oil some kind. I wouldn't eat it straight,
Speaker 2: but I would throw it in a tortilla.
Speaker 1: Some guak and some salsa. It's pretty good. What is
Speaker 1: the most adventurous thing you've ever eaten? Ah? I guess human,
Speaker 1: I guess the flesh of my fellow man. No, it
Speaker 1: might be the grasshopper. I don't think jowl is too adventurous.
Speaker 1: If your had pork jowl, no, I mean it's face,
Speaker 1: no pork face. It just tastes sort of like bacon.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm not even gonna answer this on even.
Speaker 2: When I will say this though, when I was in
Speaker 2: Mexico a few weeks ago, we were at a carnitask place,
Speaker 2: and carnitas you and I know to be just sort
Speaker 2: of like shredded pork shoulder, but it really in Mexico
Speaker 2: is any part of the pig that is fried in
Speaker 2: lard okay?
Speaker 1: And you can sort of choose.
Speaker 2: You can say, oh, I want rib meat or I
Speaker 2: want shoulder meat, whatever, if you go to like a
Speaker 2: place that specializes in carnitas. I went on a guided
Speaker 2: tour and the guide was like, how adventurous do you
Speaker 2: want to be because they are literally frying up every
Speaker 2: piece of flesh on a pig. And I went with, like,
Speaker 2: low ish, and I'm generally kind of adventurous. But people
Speaker 2: that went with, yes, I want to be definitively adventurous.
Speaker 2: Do you have a guess as for which part of
Speaker 2: the pig they ate in a taco fried and like
Speaker 2: shredded and cut up?
Speaker 1: USh? I probably don't. What would you consider to be
Speaker 1: adventurous the nether regions, let's say you're you're not wrong.
Speaker 1: It was Uterus. Oh, it was pig Uterus, fried pig Uterus,
Speaker 1: and everybody seemed to like it. Good, good for them. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: all right, Uh, coming in like a lion giving me
Speaker 1: the willies here, Yeah, Josh Rosen's draft stock, Dan Oh,
Speaker 1: I like this. So look, this was one of our
Speaker 1: fantasy things that we discussed a couple times and all
Speaker 1: throughout the twenty sixteen season. A lot of hype around Rosen,
Speaker 1: a lot of steam on him after twenty fifteen because
Speaker 1: he had a great freshman campaign right twenty sixteen quick,
Speaker 1: it might be overstating it. I'd say very impressive. It
Speaker 1: was impressive. He showed a ton of promise right, Yes,
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen kicked a little dirt on that fire because
Speaker 1: he only played half a season he got hurt. Even
Speaker 1: before he got hurt, there wasn't a big boost in
Speaker 1: his productivity, virtually identical to what he did in the
Speaker 1: same span of time in twenty fifteen. So we're now
Speaker 1: at a weird spot where he's got a ton of talent.
Speaker 1: No one's forgotten about Josh Rosen, But the draft stock,
Speaker 1: you could argue, has never quite been this low, and
Speaker 1: now twenty seventeen, uncertainty. What's the offense going to look like?
Speaker 1: I think it's coming in like a lion here. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is a low point at the moment. Un So, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't know what the offenses look like. New coordinator
Speaker 1: and jetfish. Yeah, I think that's reasonable. How do you
Speaker 1: feel about where the offense is headed and where he heads.
Speaker 2: Not particularly good? What is UCLA offensively in terms of
Speaker 2: returning production? Let's take a look real quick, just to
Speaker 2: give us a baseline idea. So they're ninety ninth, forty
Speaker 2: ninth on offense, ninety ninth overall. So I'm worried that defensively,
Speaker 2: even though they've recruited very well, I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: take a step back to chars. McKinley was wonderful rushing
Speaker 2: the quarterback. UCLA still I feel like hasn't developed past
Speaker 2: catching weapons, and they were so atrocious on the ground
Speaker 2: last year that even if they improved, they'll probably just
Speaker 2: improve to about average and that doesn't necessarily help a
Speaker 2: quarterback a ton. So I'm gonna go with a repeat here.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to say UCLA and Josh Rosen in
Speaker 2: like a lion, and because I think he's probably going
Speaker 2: to end up on a bad NFL team or you know,
Speaker 2: a bad NFL team's quarterback decisions in out like a
Speaker 2: bull tie.
Speaker 1: I love that sound. We need to start using that more. Dan.
Speaker 1: As Josh Rosen heads to Houston, Yeah, that wasn't okay team,
Speaker 1: I think that wouldn't be the worst place to go. No,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't. But that's that's what I'm feeling. I feel
Speaker 1: like he'll have a bounce. You're to the point where
Speaker 1: people will talk themselves out of his potential problems with
Speaker 1: UCLA in twenty seventeen. Yeah, I think he provided he
Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt, and provided he has an okay season.
Speaker 1: I think I really hope he does. Yeah, as do.
Speaker 1: I think he'll enter the NFL draft early. That's not
Speaker 1: a stretch to say. I think his draft stock will
Speaker 1: be a lot less uncertain than it is now. I
Speaker 1: think he'll be fun to watch. I think he'll be
Speaker 1: fun to envision in an NFL uniform, just maybe not
Speaker 1: a fully crystallized matured beast, which is why I'm going
Speaker 1: to say a Felabella miniature horse. You ever see a
Speaker 1: miniature horse show?
Speaker 2: That's what I've heard of. What is it's Shetlands, I've
Speaker 2: heard of Felabella. That's a great word.
Speaker 1: Felabella miniature horse. Yeah, that what was like on Robin Big.
Speaker 1: I don't know what was on Big, but it is
Speaker 1: a miniature horse. And I believe it's from Argentina. And
Speaker 1: I saw a horse show once. So they trained them,
Speaker 1: they ran in a circle. It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Would you rather have in twenty seventeen playing for an
Speaker 1: above average college football a generic above average college football team?
Speaker 1: Would you rather have a healthy Josh Rosen or a
Speaker 1: healthy Deshaun Kaiser? Wow? I think I'd want Josh Rosen.
Speaker 1: Why I watched every throw because we're doing an.
Speaker 2: NFL draft show. We'll do we'll talk about the NFL
Speaker 2: Draft like the week before it happens. I really enjoyed
Speaker 2: our show with Peter Schreger last year. But I watched
Speaker 2: every single throw of the Shawn Kaiser's in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: and I don't do not hold him accountable for everything
Speaker 2: because that offense was a mess. Deshaun Kaiser made one
Speaker 2: read and launched it in as hard as he possibly could.
Speaker 2: I think I would go with Josh Rosen at this point.
Speaker 2: I think Deshaun Kaiser's more mature. I think he's a
Speaker 2: better athlete, he's a better runner, he's more solid physically.
Speaker 2: But I came away kind of disappointed with where Deshaun
Speaker 2: Kaiser was, and I still feel like if Deshaun Kaiser
Speaker 2: is going to be talked about as a top five
Speaker 2: NFL draft pick after his twenty sixteen that a healthy
Speaker 2: Josh Rosen has a higher ceiling at this point.
Speaker 1: I'll take the opposite side of the argument, and I'll
Speaker 1: just say because Kaiser can do more as a college
Speaker 1: football quarterback. He may not be as gifted a passer
Speaker 1: when it comes to making reads right, but he can
Speaker 1: do more with his legs, and that gives you an
Speaker 1: added dimension. I think Rosen's probably going to end up
Speaker 1: being a much better passer. I think he's already borderline
Speaker 1: shown that when he's been healthy. But Kaiser does give
Speaker 1: you the legs. And it was sort of an unintended
Speaker 1: advantage that Notre Dames stumbled into the first year that
Speaker 1: he played quarterback. Right, They didn't really plan on running
Speaker 1: him because they were already down a guy, right, they
Speaker 1: didn't want to get somebody else hurt. Five fifteen was
Speaker 1: considerably better, exactly. He ended up being very good at
Speaker 1: running the football, and in many cases this past season
Speaker 1: they needed him, they needed to ruin the football. He's
Speaker 1: actually got better wheels than a lot of people think
Speaker 1: he's a big guy. So from that standpoint, that standpoint alone,
Speaker 1: I think he gives you a new dimension. I'll go
Speaker 1: I'll go Kaiser over Rosen, just based on what we
Speaker 1: saw year ago. I will say with Rosen there's a
Speaker 1: lot more throwing arrogance that Kaiser doesn't have in a
Speaker 1: bad way.
Speaker 2: Right That Kaiser doesn't scan the field, he doesn't throw
Speaker 2: guys open as much. But he is very seldom to
Speaker 2: be confident or overly confident in his ability to make
Speaker 2: a play fair, which is agh, which is a good quality. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, coming in like a lion. This team went
Speaker 2: one in eight in the Big Ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah they did. They went three and nine over all,
Speaker 1: DAN one hundred and third one zero three in the
Speaker 1: nation in points per game. It was clearly a significant
Speaker 1: step back on offense as well as defense. Michigan State.
Speaker 1: Michigan State was a team that a lot of people
Speaker 1: were high on going into twenty sixteen. Clearly that did
Speaker 1: not work out. Now they're in a position where they
Speaker 1: had a really bad year. They enter a rejuvenated Big
Speaker 1: ten East. Despite the fact that there may be a
Speaker 1: few teams on that side of the conference taking a
Speaker 1: step back, it still feels like a decidedly more competitive
Speaker 1: division than it was the last time. Michigan State was
Speaker 1: potentially consequential. So I ask you, mister Rubinstein, three to nine,
Speaker 1: Michigan State in like a lion out like a I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go vulture here, ty a vulture, a vulture. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna cover myself when I'm gonna hedge
Speaker 1: because either Michigan State becomes a team and by the way,
Speaker 1: returning production wise, one hundred and twenty four. Yeah, not great, Bob,
Speaker 1: not great Bob, But Michigan is one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: seventh across the state. Ohio State seventy second, Penn State
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, So that's a little bit scary, But schedule wise,
Speaker 1: it's I would argue, somewhat advantageous. They have Michigan on
Speaker 1: the road, but they get Maryland and Rutger's Cross Division
Speaker 1: and Indiana with a new coach. They get him at home.
Speaker 1: Ryan Field's not the most difficult place to play against
Speaker 1: Northwestern Minnesota on the road, but it's a new coach
Speaker 1: feeling things out. Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: They get in Spartan Stadium, Iowa. They get in Spartan
Speaker 2: Stadium and early on Western with a new coach, a
Speaker 2: disappointing bowling green, so they could pick apart the carcasses
Speaker 2: of disappointing teams, and by the end of the year
Speaker 2: we can say, all right, that's what they did. They
Speaker 2: weren't great.
Speaker 1: They weren't a falcon, they weren't an eagle, they weren't
Speaker 1: a hawk, but they they ate. You know, they'll they'll
Speaker 1: get back to a bowl game, or they themselves are
Speaker 1: the carcass. And Michigan at Michigan Stadium, Ohio State at
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Penn State returning a ton including two Heisman
Speaker 1: Trophy contenders on offense, at least two Heisman Trophy contenders
Speaker 1: will pick them apart, not unlike a vulture strategy. All right,
Speaker 1: so what you're saying is maybe not a return to
Speaker 1: ten and two yes, I think I like four yes,
Speaker 1: I think it's entirely possible. Michigan State has always been
Speaker 1: a program that has had to rely on identifying diamonds
Speaker 1: in the rough for developmental guys and developing them, you know,
Speaker 1: seeing qualities, finding fits for Michigan State in the way
Speaker 1: that their culture operates, but without a ton of players
Speaker 1: coming back to sort of influence winning culture, and it's tough.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a more it's a tougher ask in
Speaker 1: the way that that division has come forward with three
Speaker 1: very very strong teams. Agreed. Yeah, I think we're on
Speaker 1: a similar train of thought here. Dan. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say Vulture, I don't think it's quite as big of
Speaker 1: a lion, but I'm must say they go out like
Speaker 1: a house cat, maybe entering twenty eighteen with their own
Speaker 1: share of questions, maybe not quite as uncertain as they
Speaker 1: are now entering twenty seventeen. But I just kind of
Speaker 1: feel like Gate and four is going to be the ceiling.
Speaker 2: May I ask you a follow up question, So the
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen Michigan State team, Vulture wise, so a down
Speaker 2: Oregon team, not a bad Oregon team in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: but Vernon Adams, you know, they picked him apart because
Speaker 2: he was injured. Ohio State, you could argue offensive coordinating
Speaker 2: was a bit of a carcass in that game, not
Speaker 2: giving the ball to Zeke Elliott. Penn State was certainly
Speaker 2: down that year. That was the sort of I would argue,
Speaker 2: the basement of the running the old spread system that
Speaker 2: James Franklin brought in. They got killed in that game, right, correct, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was like a fifty to sixteen kind of game.
Speaker 2: And Michigan clearly at the beginning of the Harbaugh era,
Speaker 2: and that was, you know, the carcass of special teams
Speaker 2: play and Brady Hoke before that. So I'm not going
Speaker 2: to disrespect Michigan State and fully attribute their success to
Speaker 2: them picking apart carcasses and not necessarily being the ones
Speaker 2: to kill them.
Speaker 1: But there might be an element. Okay, fair enough, I agree, Okay,
Speaker 1: And finally, finally, in like a lion, I need to
Speaker 1: harkenhim back to this for a second because I remember
Speaker 1: it very vividly. Last year. I took copious notes we
Speaker 1: both did on our twenty sixteen college football five part
Speaker 1: preview that we put together, and I remember as part
Speaker 1: of that preview, I went through our friend Phil Steele's
Speaker 1: season preview, as I do every year, and in that preview,
Speaker 1: he assumed that John Franklin the Third was going to
Speaker 1: be Auburn's answer at quarterback. Alas that was not the
Speaker 1: case he saw some time, but he certainly wasn't the
Speaker 1: prolonged answer at quarterback for Auburn. Seawan White got the
Speaker 1: majority of the steps, and at times he was effective.
Speaker 1: I gave him and Gus Malson a lot of crap
Speaker 1: for it, not that they care or even new, but
Speaker 1: I just thought starting Seawan White was lopping off an
Speaker 1: entire leg of your offense because he just didn't give
Speaker 1: you much more beyond like a game manager role. So
Speaker 1: I was disappointed. We didn't see any of that creativity
Speaker 1: that we've come to know and love from Gus Malson.
Speaker 1: Now they enter twenty seventeen, Seawan White is still there,
Speaker 1: John Franklin the Third is still there, but they've also
Speaker 1: got Woody Barrett. They've got a sophomore named Tyler Queen,
Speaker 1: a freshman named Malik Willis, and of course the Baylor
Speaker 1: transfer Jared Stidham. Gus Melzon has options, but which one
Speaker 1: will he pick? Auburn's quarterback coming in like a lion
Speaker 1: and going out like a I'm gonna say, goat, oh
Speaker 1: and not and not theg dot O dot a dot
Speaker 1: t goat. But I'm kind of scared specifically for Jarrett Stidham,
Speaker 1: because I don't know that that is the the most
Speaker 1: perfect fit. To me, he feels like a quarterback who
Speaker 1: can run, a thrower who can run, and I know
Speaker 1: Cam Newton sort of developed into that in his one
Speaker 1: transfer year. But I also am under the impression from
Speaker 1: watching Auburn these past few years under gusmels On that
Speaker 1: they are looking for somebody at quarterback who can shoulder
Speaker 1: a good amount of the rushing load. Nick Marshall was
Speaker 1: able to successfully Sean White and a couple other quarterbacks
Speaker 1: less so, and I don't know that that generally fits
Speaker 1: what Gusmelson is able to do. So I'm I'm scared
Speaker 1: much in the way that screaming goats appears to be scared.
Speaker 1: Ty Well, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna play the
Speaker 1: goats sound. Did you know that I was gonna go
Speaker 1: goat with this one? No? I did not. I have
Speaker 1: a baby goat right here. I swear to you, on
Speaker 1: all things holy Simbadio that I am going to go
Speaker 1: goat here, and that I had planned on going goat here.
Speaker 1: I think regardless of who ends up with this job,
Speaker 1: I've lost some confidence in gusmel Zon's ability to put
Speaker 1: together like a well balanced offense, something that incorporates both
Speaker 1: the run and the pass. We saw it a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago with Nick Marshall. Right, but it's been
Speaker 1: a while. I feel like it's been too long. Had
Speaker 1: really good pass catching options. Sammy Coates was great, Carda Lewis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm thinking that it's a goat, but the kind
Speaker 1: of goat that has a fatal flaw. Oh, you know,
Speaker 1: like one of those fainting goats, one of those goats
Speaker 1: that when they get all worked up, they just faint. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I get some sort of critter with a fatal flaw.
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Speaker 1: That's all I got, dan Uh, that's almost everything I have, Tye.
Speaker 1: Will you play the breaking news sound for me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Breaking news? Okay.
Speaker 2: So, as I mentioned to you, Ty, the the Espionation
Speaker 2: college football people are in town.
Speaker 1: Yes, correct, correct? I got a an update about a
Speaker 1: romantic pursuit whoa of Richard Johnson whoa that began on
Speaker 1: the evening of the Soliverble Live show at Hell Country. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa?
Speaker 1: I did, I got this. I got an update, Tye.
Speaker 1: Are we allowed to talk about this on the show?
Speaker 2: So I will not call out this person that Richard
Speaker 2: Johnson is now at least unofficially romantically entangled with Okay,
Speaker 2: the dates dating ongoing. I don't want to mis represent anything.
Speaker 1: You're going to torpedo the whole damn thing, dude.
Speaker 2: I might torpedo the whole thing, but I did ask
Speaker 2: Richard's permission and he said go for it.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well then so be it. So it's ongoing, Ty,
Speaker 1: no kidding on whatever level, it's ongoing. And as I've
Speaker 1: said before, Ty, hilden Brandt is the ultimate afrodisiac. We
Speaker 1: bring people together, man, That's what we do, bring people together.
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying right now we are going to
Speaker 2: be doing the tentative plan. We're going to do a
Speaker 2: live show in August to do our fantasy things draft live.
Speaker 2: This is breaking news now, Yeah, this is breaking news.
Speaker 2: We have not booked anything. That is the plan.
Speaker 1: The plan is at some point in August, we're going
Speaker 1: to get together a larger gathering and you will see
Speaker 1: information on this in the coming days and weeks and months.
Speaker 1: We'll put together mailing list. It will be limited availability
Speaker 1: as the first time, though maybe not quite as limited
Speaker 1: and will be bigger. Yeah. The plan is to put
Speaker 1: together a really fun season preview show and instead of
Speaker 1: boring people we're gonna we're gonna have our Fantasy Things
Speaker 1: draft for the twenty seventeen season, live in Living Color.
Speaker 1: So all I'm gonna say is, if you're a single gal,
Speaker 1: if you're a single fella, we will probably be doing
Speaker 1: this place that has food, that has drinks, and I
Speaker 1: would say it's safe to say it's going to be
Speaker 1: a bit of a singles mixer. Tie do is that
Speaker 1: a word?
Speaker 2: I don't even know if that's a word anymore, But
Speaker 2: you know what I can say now with authority. We
Speaker 2: have a very attractive audience.
Speaker 1: We do, yes, absolutely informed, educated, good jobs, interesting people
Speaker 1: and just the top of the top looks wise. Tie,
Speaker 1: you and I were the two least interesting people there.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, right now, keep your eyes peeled because
Speaker 2: we've got an attractive audience.
Speaker 1: Head on a swivel. Absolutely all right. Wow, you're already
Speaker 1: paying ty. This is already breaking news here. Yeah, our
Speaker 1: first twenty seventeen great, so listen. Yeah, I teased this
Speaker 1: a little bit and I saw some action on the
Speaker 1: form we're going to be putting out at by the
Speaker 1: end of this week, a voting poll for people who
Speaker 1: want to jump in and vote for our Verby Show.
Speaker 1: The plan is that we're going to do that either
Speaker 1: next week or the week after, right, So it's going
Speaker 1: to be in short order that will do our Verby Show.
Speaker 1: They just did the Oscars a couple days ago. We
Speaker 1: can assure you we'll probably have that level of screw
Speaker 1: up and more as we give out the biggest and
Speaker 1: brightest awards in the college football world, as we do
Speaker 1: one final recap of the twenty sixteen season that was.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that point, we need you
Speaker 1: to step in and let us know what you think.
Speaker 1: We need some voting. We need some voting. So it's
Speaker 1: it's free, It's open to everybody to come in and vote.
Speaker 1: We'll put together a nice little fun show talk about
Speaker 1: all of these award winners and and much much more so.
Speaker 1: The Verbie Show is forthcoming. We are currently signing up
Speaker 1: coaches that are going to be on the program. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the next couple months. We've got some healths applying,
Speaker 1: some headlining acts that I am extremely excited about. We
Speaker 1: won't spill the beans on that quite yet, and then
Speaker 1: some other fun stuff planned as we enter into the
Speaker 1: long doldrums of the off season. Ty, did you notice
Speaker 1: the avalanche of support that Donuts received. I did, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did. It was like forty seven to one. People
Speaker 1: are pro donuts and I am, which doesn't make am
Speaker 1: anti cake. There are cake donuts. I am pro donut.
Speaker 1: I'm pro cake. I may be anti donut wall, but
Speaker 1: I need to see it. I need to see it.
Speaker 1: I am crazy. I am waiting to pass judgment until
Speaker 1: I actually see how this is used. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 2: The ratio is flipped with donuts. It's everything is coming
Speaker 2: up donut.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you'll be very pleased with the wall. Tie.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm giving it a.
Speaker 2: Chance, and there will be far more donuts than people
Speaker 2: and we'll have to go bags too.
Speaker 1: Tie, you'll be set. I am waiting to pass judgment. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's all I got, Dan. That's everything I have for
Speaker 1: that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself,
Speaker 1: Ti Hill, the brand. Thanks again for tuning in. Subscribe
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