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Speaker 1: Duh Bogman. We could start here with you. I want
Speaker 1: to get your take on this one. As we just
Speaker 1: kind of kick things off here. Dak Prescott said, I
Speaker 1: quote we fin suck. That's a quote from Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: not for me. Don't get mad at me. So do
Speaker 1: they suck? And are the Cowboys done?
Speaker 2: Scott Bogmin I would say that's fairly accurate. And if
Speaker 2: Dak isn't gonna play for the next couple of weeks,
Speaker 2: I mean, Cooper Rush is a decent replacement, but come on,
Speaker 2: Dak can be in an MVP level player. He hasn't
Speaker 2: been this year, but he is a huge part of
Speaker 2: that offense, so gonna lose him for multiple weeks after
Speaker 2: Michaeh Parson's missed a bunch of time. It's just not
Speaker 2: in the cards for the Cowboys. This here, it feels
Speaker 2: like so I'll say, yeah, I think they're pretty done.
Speaker 1: So it looks like Dak from the information we've got
Speaker 1: just about an hour ago, is going to miss some
Speaker 1: time with this hamstring issue. Not surprised. Could be multiple weeks,
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe even our situation ceedee Lamb goes down
Speaker 1: as well. So right now they are a three win team.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. Welch, you tell me where the wins?
Speaker 1: Are you? Ready to play? Where's the win?
Speaker 3: That's my favorite, my favorite game. Where's the win? With
Speaker 3: the Cowboys? This is music in my ears. It's like poetry.
Speaker 1: And this just came in. Literally, this happened. Cowboys. Ceed
Speaker 1: Lamb is considered a week two week okay, So now yeah, wait, Joe,
Speaker 1: Joe real quick, Joe, real quick?
Speaker 3: How about them Cowboys?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Please please move on.
Speaker 1: You sound like Jerry Jones when you say it, like
Speaker 1: you're just you know, just missed your medication time. All right,
Speaker 1: here we go, Philadelphia, Eagles win or loss, el el
Speaker 1: Houston Texans winner loss loss. At Washington, we're a loss loss, okay.
Speaker 1: How about New York Giants in Dallas win? Okay, so
Speaker 1: that's a win there for the Cowboys. How about Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Bengals in their own building here in Dallas.
Speaker 3: You probably have DAC back, you probably have CD. I
Speaker 3: mean for the fun of the game.
Speaker 1: Let's go l okay an other l there they like
Speaker 1: at the front of the game. How about at Carolina?
Speaker 1: Can they win there?
Speaker 3: Oh god? I mean if they're if there is one,
Speaker 3: I they better lose. But no, they'll get a win.
Speaker 1: Okay, they get a win there. So that's that's one
Speaker 1: you've got or two you've got two?
Speaker 2: Now we got two?
Speaker 1: Okay, last three here, Tampa, Philly, Washington. How many wins there?
Speaker 3: I feel like they take one from Washington. Let's give
Speaker 3: them one win of those two. So they're a six
Speaker 3: win team this year.
Speaker 1: All right. Now, you can't bet it right now because they.
Speaker 3: Just looked, Oh give me a number, give me a number.
Speaker 1: But they have three wins right now. You can't bet it.
Speaker 1: It's not there is no number. It's been pulled down.
Speaker 3: Oh tell me eight and a half.
Speaker 1: I set that number at six and a half. Are
Speaker 1: you going under?
Speaker 3: See here's the problem. Yeah, that's a good bet. I
Speaker 3: feel compelled because.
Speaker 1: What you gave them was three, So I know, sick right.
Speaker 3: There's definitely like one in there that they could sneak
Speaker 3: if it was like seven and a half.
Speaker 2: Pretty terrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they could sneak the text. Well, the reason
Speaker 3: I gave them the l though, is because you're not
Speaker 3: gonna have DAK. You might not have CD the back
Speaker 3: half of the year. Things could get a little bit
Speaker 3: like now they're playing and stuff. To be honest with you,
Speaker 3: it's probably a no bet for me. If it's eight
Speaker 3: and a half, it's smash under. If it's seven and
Speaker 3: a half, I am betting it. Also, I probably just
Speaker 3: don't touch six and a half.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, these Saints aren't touching Dennis Allen anymore.
Speaker 1: I think Michael Thomas brained his thumb just tweeting yesterday.
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen is out. So is chrysal lave Rashid Chihat.
Speaker 1: I mean pretty much the Saints are out right now.
Speaker 1: So well, where do we go from here? From a
Speaker 1: fantasy standpoint, Because I'm sure a lot of is going
Speaker 1: to miss some more time. They have no wide receivers left.
Speaker 1: I asked this question that everyone laughed at me, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask it seriously again in a Super
Speaker 1: flex league, who has the higher ceiling of points on
Speaker 1: a weekly basis now going forward? Taysom Hill or Derek Carr.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's probably Taysom Hill. I think the
Speaker 3: real question here is we should ask Michael Thomas what
Speaker 3: he thinks we go from the Saints from yeah, you're
Speaker 3: right the most un I think we forget the like
Speaker 3: unhingedness of these athletes when they're just like retired and
Speaker 3: have a grudge and or just whatever he was doing.
Speaker 3: Did you see, Michael toom this is and I can
Speaker 3: appreciate this type of petty like I don't think anyone
Speaker 3: appreciates petty like I did.
Speaker 1: If there's one guy that could be like.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, no, no, petty, petty is like that's
Speaker 3: my cup of tea. Michael Thomas drove around New Orleans
Speaker 3: asking people what they thought of Derek Carr after go
Speaker 3: going on if you didn't see ten plus tweet tirade
Speaker 3: about what garbage Derek Carr was and how bad he
Speaker 3: was he drove around town asking how what people thought
Speaker 3: of Derek Carr. It's the type of petty that you
Speaker 3: can appreciate, but also unfortunately it's kind of gonna be
Speaker 3: a little bit warranted because this team is a disaster
Speaker 3: right now. I mean, the Kamara definitely able to, you know,
Speaker 3: get a bunch of yards, but as you're pointing to,
Speaker 3: like Derek Carr's not getting the ball, Chris o'lave, I mean,
Speaker 3: it's a tool like situation. What's going on with him
Speaker 3: every game he gets out there, He's just getting smashed
Speaker 3: and you feel for him. At this point, It's like
Speaker 3: Alvin Kamara and maybe Taysom Hill are the only fantasy
Speaker 3: options moving forward. This is another team that's on a
Speaker 3: down tick. On Friend of the Show, Justin Steele finally lamenting.
Speaker 3: He's definitely always like there for his Saints, but he
Speaker 3: was like, what are we doing? What are we doing here?
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I don't know who you could
Speaker 3: really trust outside of Kamara to start for this team
Speaker 3: moving forward.
Speaker 1: Well, a song with Deebro today, I said, it's so
Speaker 1: interesting because the Patriots and the Saints have the same
Speaker 1: amount of wins and I'm enjoying my Patriots season. We
Speaker 1: beat the Jets. We had a fun you know we
Speaker 1: Drake May is still running somewhere and is finally heaving
Speaker 1: a ball up in the end zone which they catch
Speaker 1: a go into overtime for a touchdown, and I love that.
Speaker 1: Mean they lost in overtime, but it's fun. There's no pressure.
Speaker 1: And right now, the Patriots stand at the number one
Speaker 1: overall pick right now in the draft on Tankathon. So Boggs,
Speaker 1: you're the college football expert around these parts. Do you
Speaker 1: go with the Travis Hunter kind of thing? You take
Speaker 1: the two way crazy guy there. I'm sure Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: was still around. That'd be the automatic pick. Do you
Speaker 1: trade backs that you got your quarterback and get some
Speaker 1: more help here? What do you think? I mean? If
Speaker 1: this holds true and the Patriots are indeed the number
Speaker 1: one overall pick in terms of the NFL draft, what
Speaker 1: would you give them right now?
Speaker 2: I'm on trading back. If I'm the Patriots, y'all still
Speaker 2: need a lot of help. You need playmakers, need some
Speaker 2: secondary help.
Speaker 3: All As a lineman, you probably trade down like two
Speaker 3: spots or something like that, so.
Speaker 2: That the extra picks two extra picks.
Speaker 3: And take Hunter like that three overall, or you know,
Speaker 3: because what are the top two picks?
Speaker 1: They think, here's what it stands right now. And if
Speaker 1: you guys have looked at this, New England Patriots at one,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars at two, New Orleans Saints at three, Carolina
Speaker 1: Panthers are all the way at four. Then you've got Cleveland,
Speaker 1: Vegas and Giants. So Vegas and Giants, I'm sure would
Speaker 1: be very motivated to move up. Maybe even Carolina again,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, how many times can they
Speaker 1: have the number one overall pick? Maybe they should just
Speaker 1: they put no.
Speaker 3: But you trade with the Saints. You trade with the
Speaker 3: Saints to get the third hick, you get your stuff.
Speaker 3: The Saints can go take cam Ward and then they
Speaker 3: can take Travis Hunter at three. That's the play, right box, Yeah?
Speaker 2: Or will Campbell like the offensive lineman you know something.
Speaker 2: I mean, they need old line pretty bad if they're
Speaker 2: gonna keep Drake May up right, But there's some good
Speaker 2: pass catchers to Ted McMillan from Arizona is a big,
Speaker 2: big target that would help out Drake May a ton too.
Speaker 2: So I just there are so many holes for New
Speaker 2: England and they already have the quarterback, so trade down
Speaker 2: it more players. I think that's a strategy kind of
Speaker 2: regardless of where they pick, even if if they're in
Speaker 2: the top five and they can move back. That's what
Speaker 2: I'm doing con New England, all.
Speaker 1: Right, speaking it down and quarterbacks. How about Jamis Winston
Speaker 1: and Joe Flacco. Oh boy, I know Winston's on a
Speaker 1: buy this week, but I'd still love to see a
Speaker 1: combo interception prop on them. I would still take the
Speaker 1: over even though one of them is not even playing.
Speaker 1: Oh bogs, would you make up the performances of these
Speaker 1: two guys yesterday?
Speaker 2: I mean this is why they were free agents, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, they're veterans, and they're better than the
Speaker 2: guys that were playing in front of them. I still
Speaker 2: think that Winston is an upgrade over Watson, and I
Speaker 2: still think that currently Flaco is an upgrade over Richardson.
Speaker 2: But there are free agents for a reason. They're not
Speaker 2: that good, so you're going to have these games.
Speaker 1: We knew.
Speaker 2: I mean Winston tried to give the ball to the
Speaker 2: Ravens like four or five times. Kyle Hamilton just didn't
Speaker 2: want to pick the ball off, So I knew that
Speaker 2: was coming. I was more surprised by Flacco being so miserable.
Speaker 2: I thought, maybe a veteran against this team that blitzes
Speaker 2: a ton, he'll be able to recognize some of these.
Speaker 2: He didn't, and he got smacked and Minnesota at the ball.
Speaker 3: Some pretty big dancing from a lot of fantasy analysts
Speaker 3: out there all over Joe Flacco and anybody who was
Speaker 3: who like you would think that Anthony Richardson was the
Speaker 3: greatest quarterback of all time. The way that people were
Speaker 3: dancing on everybody that thought Joe Flacco should be in there.
Speaker 1: Joe Blackow next week against the Texans, don't be surprised
Speaker 1: when he throw us for three touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Agree?
Speaker 1: Agree, So let's not. I mean, I'd still be buying
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Speaker 1: As we like to say around these parts. Brad, how
Speaker 1: you doing, buddy, how's your season going? What can we
Speaker 1: do for you?
Speaker 4: Let's fellas thank you for this amazing opportunity and what
Speaker 4: you do to make fantasy football more fun for us.
Speaker 2: Joe, I need a hug.
Speaker 1: I'll give it to you, baby. Come on, Italians. We
Speaker 1: love to hug. We hug everybody. It's what we do.
Speaker 1: That's what we do, man. But I'll again as what
Speaker 1: we're trying to do. Fantasy football is supposed to be fun.
Speaker 1: Even when it's misery, it could still be a good time.
Speaker 1: So how are your teams doing? Do everything we can
Speaker 1: help you with? Or you just call to complain about
Speaker 1: something today? Where are you at?
Speaker 3: It's grievance?
Speaker 4: No, yeah, have having some fun on eight and one
Speaker 4: in one league, But I don't think I won the
Speaker 4: championship last year. It was a seven keeper league, so
Speaker 4: I was able to keep my starting seven picked up
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels. I just put my team in the chat.
Speaker 4: I'm completely stacked and I have the most points against
Speaker 4: and the second most points for. I'm about to be
Speaker 4: six at what point when you're in a league where
Speaker 4: you are your finishing spot affects your draft spot next year.
Speaker 4: At what point do you just say, my team is stacked,
Speaker 4: but I'm just going to phone it in and go
Speaker 4: for a good pick next year, versus fight it out
Speaker 4: and hope I go five. How much money is involved,
Speaker 4: rad that's the first thing. And we talk in cash
Speaker 4: prizes or this pride it's a fifty dollars buy in
Speaker 4: and like two hundred to first place.
Speaker 1: So all right, I'm willing to I'm willing if it's
Speaker 1: not life change it where it's not month changing money,
Speaker 1: like I'm willing to forego boys what. It's a good
Speaker 1: question though, because there's still plenty of football left and
Speaker 1: if you have a stacked team, Welsh, I'm cool with,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to keep going because there are certainly
Speaker 1: another couple of weeks here left where you can figure
Speaker 1: that out. But trade deadlines are looming in a lot
Speaker 1: of leagues. If you have a stacked team and things
Speaker 1: are just gonna go your way. This is also, by
Speaker 1: the way, a cautionary tail, you know, sleeper. A couple
Speaker 1: other sides have it now where you can play an
Speaker 1: opponent every week and then play the median score. This
Speaker 1: is a far better way to make sure the best
Speaker 1: teams are continuously moved towards the playoffs and the worst
Speaker 1: teams aren't getting rewarded for just good luck of schedule
Speaker 1: or timing. So that is something I encourage people to do.
Speaker 1: I know Sleeper's got it a few others, but well,
Speaker 1: where would you be with it? I mean, would you
Speaker 1: just start playing for next year at three and six?
Speaker 3: No, I'm playing it. I think it's similar to the
Speaker 3: analysis of like positive touchdown regression in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3: You know where you look at a player, or like
Speaker 3: just positive regression in general, where it's you know they're
Speaker 3: just under your big air yards for a player and
Speaker 3: they're just not getting it, but we know they're going
Speaker 3: to start slinging the ball. Hell. In the Fantasy Pros League,
Speaker 3: we have a content league and we have our main
Speaker 3: company league, and it's a bunch. I'm in the top
Speaker 3: ten of highest scoring. I was number one after four weeks.
Speaker 3: I am the top ten highest score in the company
Speaker 3: and I'm fifth or six in our league. I'm fourth,
Speaker 3: I'm four and four. I'm gonna win this week of
Speaker 3: the most point scored in that league. I'm gonna keep
Speaker 3: going because those points scored are telling me that this
Speaker 3: team can win. I know, three and six, it's like,
Speaker 3: how much fought further can you go? I still think
Speaker 3: you've got the ability to ramp up a good month.
Speaker 3: Maybe be a little bit aggressive in the trade deadline range,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I'm I'm gonna still push for it. If
Speaker 3: I'm looking at a team, that's like I'm balling out
Speaker 3: and I've got the stacked team and my point scored
Speaker 3: there one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The funny thing about league like that is when
Speaker 1: everybody's grouped up it it's a fourteen team league and
Speaker 1: everybody's at like four and four. Like that's a different
Speaker 1: kind of situation too, Like you know, you're looking at it,
Speaker 1: you like, well, you know, a couple of good weeks
Speaker 1: and boom, I'm over the top of it. Let's go
Speaker 1: to b W. D W is here hanging out with us?
Speaker 1: What's up, dubs? The boys?
Speaker 5: You don't so got a little bit of a complaint
Speaker 5: started five and h and a half PPR.
Speaker 1: I'm about to go five and four.
Speaker 3: How you sound like it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, geez man, you know, and then I get you
Speaker 1: a drinker. So I feel like your bartender here more
Speaker 1: than them.
Speaker 3: Raise your spirits. Yeah, it's a month of losses have
Speaker 3: got you down, So what can we do?
Speaker 5: So I've got Jonathan Taylor and I've had a few offers,
Speaker 5: and you think it's a it's a dynasty league. Do
Speaker 5: you think he's worth moving on and trying to get
Speaker 5: some other pieces to kind of bolster?
Speaker 1: What's the Jonathan Taylor value in Dodvas you're the dynasty boy.
Speaker 2: I mean it's still pretty high. He's still a good
Speaker 2: running back, He's you know, I think we're sliding towards
Speaker 2: that injury prone tag with him, of course, but uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it depends on what you can get. Because
Speaker 2: if I'm trading Jonathan Taylor, I want a stud back
Speaker 2: and then a pick or a stud back and then
Speaker 2: a potential good player. So you know, I want, like,
Speaker 2: you know, a decent running back back and you know
Speaker 2: Cedric tillmoan something like that.
Speaker 3: Would you take like a first round pick and Ray Davis?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I think that's a fair What about Gena Davis?
Speaker 1: Would you take Geena Davis back?
Speaker 2: I take prime Geena Davis, League of their own Geena Davis.
Speaker 1: There you go. I'm just trying to figure out where
Speaker 1: you're at here. Let's go to Louis Pisoglia, my people, Louis,
Speaker 1: how you doing? What's happening here? So unmute yourself. There
Speaker 1: go Louis.
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, hey, how's everyone doing?
Speaker 1: So Sai than w W sounded like yeah, this dog
Speaker 1: ran away. You know he's going through a w W
Speaker 1: is going through it.
Speaker 3: More straight losses. I'll do that to you.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 3: Look you sound like the turnaround, like he's won three straight.
Speaker 3: You sound in positive spirits. What's up?
Speaker 6: That's actually really funny. I just I'm about to win
Speaker 6: my fourth straight.
Speaker 3: So you look at that.
Speaker 1: I started one in.
Speaker 6: Fourth and last year. It's a keeper league, so we
Speaker 6: got to keep four players every year, but you have
Speaker 6: to they drop down to draft ranks, so you can't
Speaker 6: keep it first or a second.
Speaker 8: An example, you know, if you drafted someone in the seventh,
Speaker 8: then you take him in the fifth and next year
Speaker 8: kind of thing. Okay, So I kept a few keepers
Speaker 8: that were great, like Nikua was in the fourteen, Garrett
Speaker 8: Wilson was in the seventh, and then Walker was in
Speaker 8: the fifth, and then I've got a couple others anyway,
Speaker 8: so that the season's turning around, I'm four and four.
Speaker 8: I'll be five and four after tonight. It's a fifteen
Speaker 8: hundred dollars buy in, and so after tanking last year,
Speaker 8: we're not tanking this year.
Speaker 1: Let's you know, we're in all right, what do we
Speaker 1: gotta do? Let's win some money.
Speaker 8: Well, okay, I'm gonna throw some names at you. It's
Speaker 8: a bit of an a list roster, but I'm there's
Speaker 8: a couple that I'm thinking I need to upgrade or
Speaker 8: trade up to to beat one or two of the
Speaker 8: other teams.
Speaker 6: So Jalen Hurts, happy with Haul, happy with Nixon, Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 8: I was gonna ask last week, but I'm pretty optimistic
Speaker 8: moving forward.
Speaker 6: You aj Brown, Nakua Kelsey league.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a ten team league, just the way the
Speaker 8: Key and I also traded some picks for next year
Speaker 8: to pick up Jaden Reed, and I traded a second
Speaker 8: for next year to get Grease Hall.
Speaker 6: So next year, I'm somewhat thin. But I'm just a
Speaker 6: couple names that I'm like wondering if I need to upgrade.
Speaker 6: One is Jaden Read.
Speaker 8: I'm a Packers fan and I just can't get a
Speaker 8: read on that situation as far as like boom or bust.
Speaker 1: No, stay put because you know he has been spotty.
Speaker 1: The weather yesterday was crap. You know, you throw pick sixes,
Speaker 1: you take away scoring opportunity, like you just got to
Speaker 1: ride the wave here, they've got to this is a
Speaker 1: perfect time for a buy coming up for them too,
Speaker 1: Like you can't, so I would just chill on that.
Speaker 1: What's the other one?
Speaker 6: The other one is JK. Dobbins rest of season. He's
Speaker 6: sort of like my guy on the bench that I'll
Speaker 6: be using in the upcoming bye weeks. And I've also
Speaker 6: got a couple of was like Shakir, I was just
Speaker 6: curious to your guys opinion rest of season because he's
Speaker 6: sort of like lost his efficiency in the last few weeks.
Speaker 6: And then all you right over there back again.
Speaker 1: I mean, what can you do there? I mean, Dobbins
Speaker 1: is kind of Dobbins. I know he hasn't been as
Speaker 1: good lately, but I mean it just seems kind of
Speaker 1: like we're, especially with the bye week's coming up to,
Speaker 1: we're going to miss a lot of guys. I would
Speaker 1: just hold Dobbins.
Speaker 3: I'm come trading him if there's something good out there
Speaker 3: to be Frank, if if Reed and Dobbins could give
Speaker 3: you some big upgrade and a keeper league with someone
Speaker 3: that's a little bit lower and you could, you know,
Speaker 3: push the table on like a high end wide receiver,
Speaker 3: I would. I mean, I've kind of been a little
Speaker 3: bit sully on Dobbins because of how good he was.
Speaker 3: He pushed Gus Edwards out, which is great. But you know,
Speaker 3: Vidal didn't do anything this week, but he did say
Speaker 3: five carries fourteen to five carries, you're seeing slight little
Speaker 3: snap uptick. I like how he said it. The efficiency
Speaker 3: on Dobbins has been just a tiny bit ticking down.
Speaker 3: And I don't think even the Charge Chargers one of
Speaker 3: the worst five and three teams. I feel like I've
Speaker 3: watched this season, but Dobbins has just kind of kept going.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you need to move Dobbins, but I
Speaker 3: would peek around to see if there are upgrades to happen,
Speaker 3: and maybe you package somebody. But otherwise, like if I
Speaker 3: had bye weeks in front of me, good point, I
Speaker 3: don't know if I want to trade Dobbins away if
Speaker 3: he would end up being a replacement, but I don't
Speaker 3: kind of sounded how he made it sound was like, hey,
Speaker 3: I've just got someone that I'm not going to start,
Speaker 3: so maybe i'll his RB's hit the bye week, but
Speaker 3: I'd be open.
Speaker 1: To I mean, Bogs, do you think you could get
Speaker 1: Chase Brown for him, like a straight up swap or
Speaker 1: something because of the year.
Speaker 3: Well, but I don't think that's what we're talking. I
Speaker 3: think it's like out of position tree.
Speaker 2: I should say so with Dobbins, I feel like what
Speaker 2: you should do is you should float him to say, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm trading Dobbins. I'm looking to whatever you need, a
Speaker 2: tight end, a wide receiver, you're looking to add a
Speaker 2: pick since you traded a bunch whatever it is, and
Speaker 2: see what offers you get. I feel like you're going
Speaker 2: to get a bunch of garbage offers for guy like JK. Donalds.
Speaker 2: But I think the thought process is to sell him
Speaker 2: right now. He's had age, he's had injury history, so
Speaker 2: I think the most likely thing you're going to end
Speaker 2: up doing is keeping him. But yeah, float him and
Speaker 2: see what he brings you back, because somebody might be uh,
Speaker 2: you know, hurting and running back and willing to pay.
Speaker 3: I'll say this. The only thing I don't co sign
Speaker 3: there is trading him for a pick when it's a
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred dollars league keeper and you want to go
Speaker 3: all in this year. I don't want to trade depth
Speaker 3: just to like look to next year for a pick.
Speaker 3: I am one hundred percent keeping him over trading him
Speaker 3: just for nothing. But if you can do upgrades to win,
Speaker 3: that's what I care about.
Speaker 2: I would too. But it sounds like he wants to
Speaker 2: pedal him off here, like sell high on it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what it looks the case. Yeah, that's the case. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I am with Welsh in the fact that I
Speaker 2: don't want to trade him if I'm pushing all in,
Speaker 2: because if something happens to one of my running backs,
Speaker 2: he's a pretty good he's pretty good value. And like
Speaker 2: I said, I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: you're going to end up keeping him because you're not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Bagman knows this one thing about me. Cash
Speaker 3: rules everything around me. Cream get the money dollar dollar bills, y'all.
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Speaker 1: three to one one here. Welsh is dominating here in
Speaker 1: this go h Chan and Neighbors. Last week he's up
Speaker 1: to ten points. Now Boggs, you're at four, I am
Speaker 1: at six. I'm right in between you. So Wels is
Speaker 1: here at the top of the mountain. Why don't you
Speaker 1: go first? Give me your three hundred yard passer for
Speaker 1: week ten, your one hundred yard rusher and your hundred
Speaker 1: yard receiver.
Speaker 3: I've got a good street. I think. I don't know
Speaker 3: if this is one hundred percent. I don't think I've
Speaker 3: had a single week where I didn't hit one. I
Speaker 3: got ten points through inbound. I know one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: And as I said it, I heard it. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: one hundred percent these are not going to hit. But
Speaker 3: I just wanted to point out I've been consistent, but yeah,
Speaker 3: that's going to be film. The only thing I care
Speaker 3: about in this league, because I'm just so dominating, is
Speaker 3: I want to hit all three in one week. That's
Speaker 3: the only exact thing I want. So for this week,
Speaker 3: as the as your leader, here is where we are
Speaker 3: going to go. Gentlemen, we are gonna go with Brock
Speaker 3: Party versus Tampa Bay. You can foe Row against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3: Brock Purty one of the top passers in the league.
Speaker 3: They're coming off of the bye week, get a little
Speaker 3: bit healthy and get slanging. Bjeon Robinson versus the Saints.
Speaker 3: What can you do against the Saints? You can beat
Speaker 3: them and you can run. And then finally justin Jefferson
Speaker 3: against the Jaguars because they are stinky and Justin Jefferson
Speaker 3: smells quite nice. So Brock Purty, Bjeon Robinson, Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 3: That's my three one one.
Speaker 9: Cash it cash.
Speaker 1: It's funny you say jaguars. Why do you say jaguars?
Speaker 1: Is that there is wrong?
Speaker 3: Jaguars? Shag go Jaguars.
Speaker 2: It's a what that's an American thing? Most of the
Speaker 2: jaguars it is.
Speaker 3: What would you like me to say, jaguars jaguars or that?
Speaker 1: Remember that British guy from the commercials JA you are.
Speaker 3: Oh here holding going to play the jaguar. I'll go
Speaker 3: to Jouff get.
Speaker 1: You wars Jaguars jaguar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a regional thing. I think most it
Speaker 2: is the original thing jaguars, all.
Speaker 3: Right, the jack they do.
Speaker 1: I don't think most of America. Do you get a
Speaker 1: poll on this. I don't think most of America says this.
Speaker 1: I think a small section of people in Jacksonville say this.
Speaker 1: Duval County says probably and.
Speaker 3: Then out okay, so hold on real quick, real quick, Joe.
Speaker 3: You tell me what I'm doing, and then you tell
Speaker 3: me what's what I'm doing wrong?
Speaker 1: Jaguar. You're making it sound like you are somehow was like, well,
Speaker 1: you got to do to hang that photo up, that picture.
Speaker 3: So what's the that's the right way, and what am
Speaker 3: I doing?
Speaker 1: What you're saying I'm saying is that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, if you know, well, the first thing
Speaker 1: God do is you gotta hang that you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta put the nail on the wall. Then you take
Speaker 1: that jaguar and put it behind the front with them
Speaker 1: and the jaguar.
Speaker 3: It sounds completely correct to me as you're saying it, So.
Speaker 1: War jaguar war or or jaguar.
Speaker 3: I don't say jaguar.
Speaker 1: Jaguars says like something some guy from Chicago culture he does.
Speaker 1: Come here, you a jaguar? What do you know him
Speaker 1: over here?
Speaker 3: You're starting to make it sound like it's something we
Speaker 3: can't say on this show. But yeah, okay, go ahead
Speaker 3: Jacksonville justin Jefferson again, we're gonna turn Jacksonville into Jaguars.
Speaker 1: I just I just you know, you've said you say
Speaker 1: it all just every I just figured this was it.
Speaker 1: This is why I need a vacation.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought it.
Speaker 2: And I get very I get very bitchy, all right, box, Well,
Speaker 2: where I'm at is. I need Joe to go on vacation.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take him for three hundred yards.
Speaker 1: I'm going to Florida.
Speaker 2: Wires secondary suck, so we're gonna go with Sam Donald thereon.
Speaker 2: At Dallas. I just think Dallas, we're gonna get a
Speaker 2: quick factor here, and I think Suon is gonna have
Speaker 2: a huge game against the Cowboys. And then Jamar Chase
Speaker 2: on Thursday Night against Baltimore. I think he's jealous. Everybody
Speaker 2: scored a touchdown except him last week, and I think
Speaker 2: he's going to go ham on national television.
Speaker 3: I like that before before Joe gives him. When M
Speaker 3: comes up, I want M to say Jaguars. I want
Speaker 3: to hear how M. However, prepare yourself. No, no, say it, however,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. Say it however you say it,
Speaker 3: but just be prepared. When Joe's done.
Speaker 2: Here, no pressure.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and then whatever the team name is. I'm going
Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow here because those games between the Ravens
Speaker 1: and Cinthdai Bengals always end up in the seventies and
Speaker 1: the point totals combined, So I'll just bet the over. Folks,
Speaker 1: bet the over. I'm gonna little breeze hal against Arizona
Speaker 1: and give me Nico Collins triumphant return. Let's go Nico Collins.
Speaker 1: All right, M, no pressure here, you're up here with
Speaker 1: the out of bounds.
Speaker 3: How do you say the Jacksonville football sentence?
Speaker 1: Jacksonville?
Speaker 7: What M Jacksonville Jaguars?
Speaker 1: Thank you? M? Good job?
Speaker 3: How did that sound different? I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 1: I say Jaguars, W I R E s at the end.
Speaker 3: I'm going crazy. Go on vacation please, M hi, so
Speaker 3: nice to see you.
Speaker 1: What do you.
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 7: Basically, in my league aid and one nice, I'm trying
Speaker 7: to do it. Find a trade for Hubbard and Tillman.
Speaker 7: I want an running back. I'm basically just preparing for
Speaker 7: the playoffs. For my running backs, I have Barkley and
Speaker 7: I have Josh Jacobs. I'm pretty stacked on wide receivers,
Speaker 7: have Cup Jefferson, Deebo Mooney. So basically, my question would
Speaker 7: be for Hubbard and Tillman. Where should I be amy
Speaker 7: for in the running back tears.
Speaker 1: Hubbard and Tillman. Well, Tillman's got a tricky schedule with
Speaker 1: the corner's coming up, and he's gonna buy this week,
Speaker 1: so that could be a little tricky. Bob's where do
Speaker 1: you think you're at in terms of the value in return?
Speaker 1: Because I assume she wants to try to get something
Speaker 1: that is better than Jacob's. Is James Connor or DeAndre
Speaker 1: Swift that realm of where we're talking about.
Speaker 2: I hate to say that Swift might be, but he
Speaker 2: actually might.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard not to say it at this point,
Speaker 1: Like he is RB seventeen on the year, but that
Speaker 1: was after a very slow start.
Speaker 2: You see only part of the offense that doesn't look
Speaker 2: completely lost every single So yeah, Swift looks good. I
Speaker 2: think that's a good one. I think people might be
Speaker 2: willing to trade Swift on a hot streak as well.
Speaker 2: Maybe if I could get Chase Brown with Zach Moss
Speaker 2: being out in an indefinite amount of time with a
Speaker 2: neck injury, looks pretty good. He looked like Joe Mixon
Speaker 2: this week.
Speaker 3: How about this one? Could you get ken Walker?
Speaker 2: You know what? Try it? At least try it because
Speaker 2: people might be down on ken Walker and go for it.
Speaker 2: But I view him so that could he could be
Speaker 2: helping somebody quote unquote by here help NK I think
Speaker 2: what I want to do is I want to look
Speaker 2: at the teams that are borderline playoff teams that are
Speaker 2: like right on the edge. Maybe they have a good
Speaker 2: running back, maybe they have some injuries as well, and
Speaker 2: I want to find who their best running back is
Speaker 2: and give them depth for them and see if that
Speaker 2: trade works out. I think that's how I want to
Speaker 2: work that.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the touchdown calls for Week ten.
Speaker 1: I had Jalen Hurts last week. I'm gonna have Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts again this week. We're just riding the train. That's
Speaker 1: what we're doing here, Bogs. You are leading the touchdown
Speaker 1: calls here, You've got six. So where are you going
Speaker 1: for yours?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 2: I cursed Kyron Williams first week without a touchdown. I
Speaker 2: think in a million years you picked him. This this
Speaker 2: week is because I picked him. You know what, I
Speaker 2: like Justin Jefferson going up against that team that nobody
Speaker 2: can pronounce in Jacksonville. I think that bad team has
Speaker 2: a bad secondary. So I'm gonna go with Justin Jefferson
Speaker 2: to score a touchdown against that bad team in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Well, you got five touchdown calls that you got one
Speaker 1: from Saquon here. So where are you going this week?
Speaker 3: I'm going Aaron Jones versus the Jacksonville football team.
Speaker 1: Let's go to bah lockeye Lackey.
Speaker 2: Lackey's up.
Speaker 1: You sound like I'm up, bit Lackey.
Speaker 9: Well, thank you very much, and I'll just have a
Speaker 9: Jacksonville sucks.
Speaker 6: So we should just fallow.
Speaker 3: The house anymore. I like it.
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 10: So my my complaint is I went into Sunday night
Speaker 10: game and a super flex tight.
Speaker 6: End Premium League with like a twenty two point lead.
Speaker 10: Having Flacco and Hockinson versus Taylor and Darnold, and Flacco
Speaker 10: laid an absolute egg I just needed. I lost by
Speaker 10: a point. And I just want to say that those
Speaker 10: those fumbles, I don't care that they go to the quarter.
Speaker 10: They shouldn't like that was Jonathan Taylor's full.
Speaker 1: Agree.
Speaker 6: He didn't wrap up, and that's why I lost.
Speaker 1: This is something I've been talking about a long time.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Bob and I and Watshing and I have
Speaker 1: been friends for such a long time. I'm sure they've
Speaker 1: heard me going this rant. But I'm gonna do it
Speaker 1: again anyway, which is baseball has an official scorer. How
Speaker 1: many times do you watch a guy throw a ball
Speaker 1: and hit a receiver in the numbers and it bounces
Speaker 1: off his chest and somebody picks it off. To me, interceptions, fumble,
Speaker 1: things like that, they should have an official score, just
Speaker 1: like Major League Baseball does. I don't think it's fair
Speaker 1: that a quarterback gets charged with all they get the
Speaker 1: fumble they and the handoff they you know, you get
Speaker 1: hit guys square in the numbers, right in the hands
Speaker 1: and hits off his hands and somebody else takes it
Speaker 1: away like that's on the receiver. I don't know how
Speaker 1: you guys feel about this, Bog's Welsh. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you've heard me say this before, But don't you think, like,
Speaker 1: can we evolve the scoring a little bit? Doesn't that
Speaker 1: make sense? Isn't there just logic there?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean there is, but I for for like
Speaker 2: betting purposes, they're not going to change it because you know,
Speaker 2: it get real weird if somebody threw a pick and
Speaker 2: then it didn't count.
Speaker 1: But wait a minute, why not because if it's an error. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but here's the thing that's an error hit and you
Speaker 1: can start but that's a whole other market, Like you know,
Speaker 1: could it's somebody, you know, somebody who's bad at.
Speaker 10: Joe?
Speaker 1: I think it should crop every week or was he
Speaker 1: going to give up an interception? Ball gets some of
Speaker 1: the hands think that every week back and then we're going.
Speaker 2: To get into like, well, he only threw the pick
Speaker 2: because he got decked, and he only got decked because
Speaker 2: the tackle is bad. So now is the is the
Speaker 2: pick on the tackle or is it on the quarterbacks?
Speaker 2: So I think I agree with you that it shouldn't
Speaker 2: count against a quarterback. It should count as a negative
Speaker 2: towards a receiver. But I think changing it too much
Speaker 2: is going to get a little too into the mud.
Speaker 2: So I don't think they'll ever do it, although I
Speaker 2: do think it would be a decent idea Well, well, I.
Speaker 1: Mean that hits hit props, sometimes it hits or errors,
Speaker 1: and sometimes the official scorer screws you is a better
Speaker 1: or helps you as a better. So I don't see
Speaker 1: the difference, do you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's actually interesting. Yeah, I think the whole thing
Speaker 3: is always I still hate the like rush yard attempt
Speaker 3: thing from a quarterback that niels like. I feel like
Speaker 3: Neils should not be a part of any like statistics.
Speaker 1: So that's like surrendering yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent, it's a hundred. It's god there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there is like a or you know, it's similar to you.
Speaker 3: I was trying to work it out in my head.
Speaker 3: It's like being hit by a ball and that not
Speaker 3: counting as a walk, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: In baseball, not counting as a total base.
Speaker 3: You mean, you know, like like when you get hit,
Speaker 3: if someone hits you and you take a base, that's
Speaker 3: a walk, but betting books do not count that as
Speaker 3: like a walk or a total base or anything like that.
Speaker 3: It's not like sordalizing. Yeah, stupid.
Speaker 1: Well see there you go. We learn something new every day.
Speaker 1: So almost thunderous. Thanks for hanging out while we had
Speaker 1: our logic conversation. What do you have for us today?
Speaker 9: So first off, I'd like to thank you well from
Speaker 9: Joe for my fantasy baseball performance. You guys led me
Speaker 9: to a twenty one and two record, soh my god,
Speaker 9: thank you guys.
Speaker 1: Maybe what was it twenty one and two? Is that?
Speaker 9: What's it twenty one and two? Yeah, it was my
Speaker 9: first year doing it too.
Speaker 3: That's insane, dude, good job man.
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Speaker 1: Everybody all right, Thunderous, be like thunders everybody. That's a
Speaker 1: Now you got to follow it up, Thunderous. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough one. That's a pretty good record there, buddy.
Speaker 6: Oh, I put my team in the chat.
Speaker 9: It's a dynasty superflex not tight endthingm And I was wondering,
Speaker 9: I I have one pick this year. It's just my
Speaker 9: first round pick. What is the balance that you guys,
Speaker 9: spines and trying to build for the future or just
Speaker 9: going all in and going for the like.
Speaker 1: I was like this, I'm a big three year window guy.
Speaker 1: Is it super flex you said? Or no super flex?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay. So you've got Burrow, hurtz auk Olave Wattle, Flowers, BTJ,
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, Senter Tilman, You've got Tyrone, Tracy Jalen, Warren,
Speaker 1: Jacob's Kamara, Chase Brown, and then you've got Mark Andrews
Speaker 1: Eric All Unfortunately tourney cel pretty good three year window roster.
Speaker 1: I think you might need a little help with the
Speaker 1: wide receiver room. The thing you don't have is that
Speaker 1: like you have a bunch of one a's. As far
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, there's no dude here at wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I would somehow find a way to be package picks
Speaker 1: or make use that first round pick on a big
Speaker 1: time wide receiver in order to fill out this roster box.
Speaker 1: From a diasy perspective, would you agree? Disagree? What do
Speaker 1: you say?
Speaker 2: I'd say tight ends a little tough as well.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Better.
Speaker 2: Recently Eric All just tore his knee up though, so
Speaker 2: in Kolbe Parkinson, I'm not short. So I would say
Speaker 2: for the most part, in a situation where it's like
Speaker 2: hold my pick or try to push my chips in,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to push my chips in. I want to win.
Speaker 2: You've had some tough injuries on this team, though, so
Speaker 2: it may take more than just trading that one pick
Speaker 2: you have to put you over the top. So I
Speaker 2: think it might be a little more difficult in this situation.
Speaker 2: So in but if I can get you know, if
Speaker 2: I can trade that first round pick and get a
Speaker 2: decent wide receiver and maybe a tight end to cover
Speaker 2: some of my needs here, I think I'm willing to
Speaker 2: push the chips in, especially with this draft class not
Speaker 2: being really sorted. I think there's talent, but it's not
Speaker 2: really sorted yet, and there's no like, you know, for
Speaker 2: sure superstars at the top. So I'm more willing to
Speaker 2: trade this year's class as well.
Speaker 1: All right, everybody one more thing to talk about. So
Speaker 1: next week we got four teams on Buie. We got
Speaker 1: another Germany game coming at US too. Germany gets the
Speaker 1: Giants and the Panthers. Giants and the Panthers. What did
Speaker 1: Germany do to deserve this?
Speaker 2: Bogs? They know exactly what they did.
Speaker 1: See. I knew if I said jump in the joke,
Speaker 1: I knew you would not drop the ball. No fumbles.
Speaker 1: They are always good. But seriously, like this is this
Speaker 1: is terrible. I feel like the NFL Welsh went down
Speaker 1: to schedule and go, you know what, just giveing the
Speaker 1: Panthers and the Giants. Just just throw that game at them,
Speaker 1: like this is awful. You get them a chance to
Speaker 1: showcase your great sport internationally and you're giving them the
Speaker 1: You're giving them Daniel Jones and Bryce Young.
Speaker 3: What it's bad. But those are the like, okay, let
Speaker 3: me reverse this. What's the last good game that was
Speaker 3: sent out of the US that we sent like you know,
Speaker 3: the Chiefs of the Chiefs ever gone and we ever
Speaker 3: sent the Chiefs and the.
Speaker 2: Forty nine hitting the Chiefs. Aren't the Chiefs playing an
Speaker 2: overseas game this year? I think they might be.
Speaker 3: It'll be the first one.
Speaker 2: I could be making it up.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if that's true.
Speaker 3: It's that Jacksonville football team they always sent.
Speaker 1: Well, Brazil was the the opening week, was right, there
Speaker 1: was Brazil, if member sir right where they were the
Speaker 1: Eagles and Eagles and Green Bay. That's great. That's a
Speaker 1: tremendous opportunity there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, look, I just think it must be next
Speaker 2: to your schedule. But I know the Chiefs are going
Speaker 2: over there at some point. Seriously, that is a That
Speaker 2: is a rough game. By the way, I don't know
Speaker 2: if you've looked at what the over under is, what
Speaker 2: do you want to say that in your brain? At
Speaker 2: thirty five and a half, Yeah, I was gonna say
Speaker 2: thirty six.
Speaker 3: Wait, what were the teams again? The Panthers and.
Speaker 1: Who Panthers and the New York Football Never.
Speaker 3: Mind thirty two and a half.
Speaker 1: Thirty two and a half bogs, What say you on
Speaker 1: this line.
Speaker 2: I'm going to stick with my thirty six and a half.
Speaker 1: Iowa, Okay, the number right now, ladies and gentlemen is
Speaker 1: forty two and a half. And guess who already about
Speaker 1: the under Yeah this guy.
Speaker 3: I mean give me a break.
Speaker 2: I mean, come, all right, the Panthers defense is really bad.
Speaker 2: So true Daniel Jones can get the ball to the
Speaker 2: lake neighbors a little bit, maybe they do, But all.
Speaker 1: Right, it was a great time. It's a great time
Speaker 1: hanging out with everybody today. Hope everyone's having a good week.
Speaker 1: Ten enjoy yourself. I'm gonna go on vacation, as everybody
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