WEBVTT - The OTP | Top 5 Defensive Back prospects

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<v Speaker 1>Rhet Brian and coach Dave McGinnis, as we take you

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<v Speaker 1>through their top five at various positions leading into next

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<v Speaker 1>week's NFL Draft. Our first OTP with these two, the

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<v Speaker 1>top five quarterbacks and running backs. Today we hit defensive backs.

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<v Speaker 1>Rehet Brian, I think we have to start at the

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<v Speaker 1>corner position, don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we do. And the top five goes like

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<v Speaker 2>this at number five, kool Aid McKay Alabama, number four,

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper de gene Iowa, Number three, Nate Wiggins Clemson, Number two,

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<v Speaker 2>Quinnyan Mitchell Toledo, and number one Terry and Arnold Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Arnold has elevated through this entire process, Coach

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<v Speaker 1>Dave McGinnis, Why is Terry On Arnold at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the list.

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<v Speaker 3>Big time producer in the Southeastern Conference, very nuanced player,

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<v Speaker 3>very nuanced player. He's not He's not a four to

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<v Speaker 3>three guy, but the guy is sticky he's in phase,

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<v Speaker 3>he understands, he understands not only vision to the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>he understands transition on throws. He's never hesitant. You can

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<v Speaker 3>tell that he really understands and gets the game. He's

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<v Speaker 3>he's really good at the catch point, really good at

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<v Speaker 3>the catch point, holds his water, doesn't panic when the

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<v Speaker 3>ball's over his head, and he's in phase with the receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Think he's more of a nuanced corner because of where

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<v Speaker 3>he's been. And I will say this, and I know

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<v Speaker 3>he's retired, but you know, Nick Saban coaches the corners

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<v Speaker 3>at Alabama. He coaches the corners at Alabama, and Nick

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<v Speaker 3>Saban knows what he's doing. You can see it in

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<v Speaker 3>the technical work. And when we've got two Alabama corners,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in our top five, and I think that

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<v Speaker 3>not only the physical ability, but they've learned the game

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<v Speaker 3>at a really high level.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Terry and Arnold is ahead of his teammate kool

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<v Speaker 2>Aid McKinstry in a lot of people's eyes because he

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<v Speaker 2>was brought in that safety, worked at safety, moved to corner,

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<v Speaker 2>and you look at his immeasurables. Mike, he's five eleven

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<v Speaker 2>point eighty nine four five and the forty arms thirty

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<v Speaker 2>one and five eight, So he's longer prospects seventy six

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<v Speaker 2>and a quarter inches is his wing. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>who else had that same kind of track and has

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<v Speaker 2>those same kind of numbers coming out the guy that

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<v Speaker 2>the Titans just traded for, Lagarius Sneak. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of If there's a comp that's kind of the comp.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw Quiny and Mitchell play at the Senior Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>corner from Toledo, originally from the state of Florida, and

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<v Speaker 1>you think, well, he's a MAC player, and Mac football

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<v Speaker 1>is good football, but they don't generally have the top

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<v Speaker 1>end receivers. Say that the SEC or the Big ten

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<v Speaker 1>did and then we all we saw Mitchell do and

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<v Speaker 1>Mobile has shut everybody down. He just beat everybody up.

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<v Speaker 3>You're one hundred percent right, and we're sitting up there watching,

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<v Speaker 3>going this kid is, you know, and I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>a lot about him. I knew I knew about him,

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<v Speaker 3>but not digging in on him before we went there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think he We talked about Jalen right

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<v Speaker 3>earlier in our in our first draft program about elevating

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<v Speaker 3>himself in this in this uh pre draft process, Kenyon Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 3>Kenyon Mitchell will be number one on a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people's cornerback board. He really will. And when you watch

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<v Speaker 3>him and you look at him, you see you see

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<v Speaker 3>really what you see as someone that has got tremendous

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<v Speaker 3>athletic ability four three three A, one to five, one

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<v Speaker 3>ten thirty eight, vertical jump, ten to two, broad twenty

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<v Speaker 3>reps at two twenty five. Now for a cornerback that's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty salty and he plays like that. This guy, to

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<v Speaker 3>me is you talk about you talk about a really

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<v Speaker 3>good floor to work from, but a ceiling that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be very, very high. And he will be able

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<v Speaker 3>to progress as he's taught in this league and learns

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<v Speaker 3>how to play against as you brought up more nuance receivers.

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<v Speaker 3>But he opened my eyes at that senior boat, Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>There might not be another player, regardless of position, who

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<v Speaker 2>has helped themselves and has won this pre draft process

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<v Speaker 2>more than Quinyon Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of talk coming in to Mobile that

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<v Speaker 1>he might be a first round pick, and now most

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<v Speaker 1>of the analysts think he is an upper half of

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<v Speaker 1>the first round pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it would not surprise me at all. I do

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<v Speaker 2>believe he's a Thursday night first round pick, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's going to be pretty early on.

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<v Speaker 1>Degene from Ile, Oh just had a great individual workout.

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<v Speaker 1>I made a player with a bit big skill set,

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<v Speaker 1>State long jump champion average twenty five points a game

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<v Speaker 1>in basketball in high school. I mean, the measurables, the trades,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it, are there. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>translate to the field when I was out there playing

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<v Speaker 1>defense in spades? It does.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, let's talk about Iowa defensive backs a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Their coach, Coach Parker, is probably the guru of defensive

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<v Speaker 3>back coaches in the collegiate game.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, the guru.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been there for twenty five thirty years. These guys

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<v Speaker 3>come out of there so well versed on what it takes,

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<v Speaker 3>not only ability wise, but the mind and the thought

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<v Speaker 3>process of what it takes to play in the secondary.

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<v Speaker 3>You can just tell they are nuanced. We've got a

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<v Speaker 3>safety here right now that came from there. We could

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<v Speaker 3>tell that in that draft. You remember when you know

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<v Speaker 3>when we had him, In fact, we had Kirk Honnie Hooker. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>in fact, we had Kirk Ferrence on after the draft,

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<v Speaker 3>and he said the same thing. But they are so

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<v Speaker 3>well schooled in what it takes to be a secondary.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you couple that with what he's got you

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<v Speaker 3>already mentioned. I mean, he's six foot and a half

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<v Speaker 3>two oh three. Broke his fibula in November, so to

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<v Speaker 3>your point, he's just coming off of that, but was

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<v Speaker 3>cleared for his activity. This guy is everything and here's

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<v Speaker 3>and I say everything in this aspect. He's got the

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<v Speaker 3>mental capacity to do it. He is so positioned and

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<v Speaker 3>scheme versatile. You can play this guy anywhere. And when

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<v Speaker 3>I say anywhere, you can. You can drop him down.

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<v Speaker 3>He can play an overhang position up up at the

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<v Speaker 3>second level. He can play safety, he can he can

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<v Speaker 3>do it an hour. You could put him out there

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<v Speaker 3>on a corner and he's got the hips to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to play corner. This is a really, really good

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<v Speaker 3>football player. And when I say that, it's with huge,

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<v Speaker 3>huge lights on as a football player that I think

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<v Speaker 3>is a can't miss in this league.

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<v Speaker 2>He may be one of the top five position versatile

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<v Speaker 2>players in this draft. You could literally, I mean, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa runs, it's kind of like a star position or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and the guy can do it. All and came back

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<v Speaker 2>and ran what a four to four forty and a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight and a half inch vertical.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all five of these players in your cornerback listing,

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<v Speaker 1>do they go in the first round? Rhett?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say probably three of the five go

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<v Speaker 2>in the first round? Wow, Okay, Terry and Arnold Quinya, Mitchell,

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper de Gen probably now that he's tested some and

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<v Speaker 2>it's still Nate Wiggins could still be there. Koolaid McKinstry

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<v Speaker 2>had foot surgery after he ran his forty at his

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<v Speaker 2>pro day and it's supposed to be ready for training camp,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll see about that. But I would say safely

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<v Speaker 2>three of the five will be drafted in the first round.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think that there'll be there'll be there'll

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<v Speaker 3>be a gap as to when they're taking But I

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<v Speaker 3>think Nate wi can go just from the fact he's

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<v Speaker 3>slight one hundred and seventy three hundred and seventy five pounds,

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<v Speaker 3>but he ran four to eight, you know, and God

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make many of those people, and especially if you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have a defense that matches some people up

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<v Speaker 3>with a thirty six inch vertical, not very physical, not

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<v Speaker 3>very physical, but four to eight, with the way the

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<v Speaker 3>space game is now, I would think he and kool

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<v Speaker 3>Aid McKinstry will go on the lower third, the lower

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<v Speaker 3>third of the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>Annis Rakestraw from Missouri, was he in contention for your

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<v Speaker 1>top five? Yes, right there, and so he figures to

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<v Speaker 1>be a player probably early in Night two, I would think,

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<v Speaker 1>very early.

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<v Speaker 3>If not, somebody, somebody may tag him at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the first round just because the number of draft

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<v Speaker 3>picks that they have and the need that they have

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<v Speaker 3>back there in the secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>But absolutely he does. He's a good player. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>good player. I think what you're getting to though, is

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<v Speaker 1>if the Titans wanted to go corner at thirty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>they could get an outstanding player potentially.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely. I mean there's another guy who's not on

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<v Speaker 3>our list. I mean there's a guy, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>at Iowa State, TJ. Tampa, that that to me is

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's this the run on corners I think

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<v Speaker 3>will carry on through maybe the top of the fourth round.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is TJ. Tampa with the cool name.

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<v Speaker 3>Got some got some got some length to him, got

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<v Speaker 3>some got some got some lengths to him? Is a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that has proven that he's got the hips to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to match and play. And he's just a

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<v Speaker 3>very very cerebral guy in the back end.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost seventy nine inch wing on that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, buddy?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's talk about favorites, Coach Mac. Outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the top five. Your favorite is.

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<v Speaker 3>Max Melton, okay, from Rutgers your favorite interview.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you do, so I did that from MAXA

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm glad you like it. Five eleven, one eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy is just a bulldog. I mean he and

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<v Speaker 3>when I say that, I mean he is tenacious. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a tenacious player. He's physically gifted. Forty and a half

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<v Speaker 3>inch vertical jumping, eleven four broad jump. I mean that

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<v Speaker 3>that that that in a four three nine forty. He's compact.

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<v Speaker 3>But you interviewed him and the way that he interviewed

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<v Speaker 3>with you, the way you explained it to us when

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<v Speaker 3>we were down in Mobile, it's the way he plays.

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<v Speaker 1>He ain't scared.

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<v Speaker 3>I think what you said is, Coach Mack, this guy

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<v Speaker 3>could be a W. W. E.

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<v Speaker 1>Russell. Oh we could, but I mean he's Max Smelting too.

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<v Speaker 1>That rolls right, rolls right off that, but he ain't scared, Rahett.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's what you love in corners, is

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're gonna have time to day war every day,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to go against world class athletes at

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver and this guy just doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>I thank you you spot On, and you came back

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<v Speaker 3>immediately from that interview and said, this guy's got it

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<v Speaker 3>all right inside, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Red Brian, who's your favorite?

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Hart? Notre Dame? Who is Cam Hart? So he

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<v Speaker 2>is a pretty large cornerback, Notre Dame six ' three

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<v Speaker 2>two oh two four five forty thirty three inch vertical,

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<v Speaker 2>He's got almost a seventy nine inch wings band. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's some ups and downs to any of

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<v Speaker 2>these guys, but if you want to see what he

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<v Speaker 2>can do, take a look at the Ohio State film.

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<v Speaker 2>He held Marvin Harrison Junior to three catches for thirty

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<v Speaker 2>two yards, no touchdowns. So just he's a bigger corner

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously he's somebody that's a Day three prospect, but

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<v Speaker 2>could make a nice addition to someone's team.

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<v Speaker 1>Rep. Bran, who's your sleeper?

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<v Speaker 2>My sleeper is Andrew Phillips from Kentucky. Really like Andrew Phillips.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a five ten and a half one ninety

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<v Speaker 2>ran a four to four to eight in the forty

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one and a quarter inch charms. So the thing

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<v Speaker 2>about him obviously sec corner in this but his game

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<v Speaker 2>is a lot like Roger McCrary. That would be his

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<v Speaker 2>comp if we're talking about him. I think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make somebody a nice, nice pro, really nice young player.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing I like about him though, just jumping on Red

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<v Speaker 3>Skuy he's got a forty two inch vertical eleven to

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<v Speaker 3>three broads, so he's an explosive Yep, he's an explosive dude,

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<v Speaker 3>and you need explosion on your transition out of your

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<v Speaker 3>back pedal.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got it all right. Coach Mack, you said that

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite is Max Melton, So who's your sleeper at corner?

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<v Speaker 1>Abrams Drain?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, the other corner of Missouri from Missouri five eleven,

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<v Speaker 3>one's seventy nine not not not quite as big a

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<v Speaker 3>four four four forty thirty three inch a vertical jump,

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<v Speaker 3>but here one five three ten. This guy is just

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<v Speaker 3>he's an instinctive football player, and even at that even

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<v Speaker 3>at that weight one seventy nine. He will throw his

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<v Speaker 3>face in the briar patch. I mean he'll go, he'll

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<v Speaker 3>he will go after you. And Missouri had a really

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<v Speaker 3>good football team this year in the Southeastern Conference. There

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<v Speaker 3>were a lot of Missouri players at the combine for

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<v Speaker 3>a reason. This guy's a good football player, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think later on down in the draft, somebody's going to

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<v Speaker 3>get a pretty good player there. I think he'll make

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<v Speaker 3>a living in this league as a slot corner.

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<v Speaker 1>Take us through the top five safeties as you and

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Mack have them raided At.

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<v Speaker 2>Number five Cole Bishop, Utah, number four, Kaylin Bullock, Southern

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<v Speaker 2>col Number three, Jaden Hicks, Washington State, number two, Javon Buller, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>and number one Tyler Newman Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about Buller first, Yeah, Javon Buller, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is this player and why is he special?

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, he is very, very cognizant of what

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<v Speaker 3>goes on in space. You can play you can play

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<v Speaker 3>him anywhere back there. He can lap in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the back end. He's really good at driving the football

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<v Speaker 3>and he he he's not if when you watch in tape.

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing you want to look at safeties, how

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<v Speaker 3>frantic are they when the ball is snapped? You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying? How frantic are they? Do they look confused?

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<v Speaker 3>Do they look? This guy is so dialed in what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on? The other thing is I mean when he's

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<v Speaker 3>a four four to eight forty guy, thirty three inch

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<v Speaker 3>vertical jump, a ten foot broad jump. But he understands

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<v Speaker 3>the nuances of what's happening in space, and not only

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening in his vertical vision, but also in his

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<v Speaker 3>periff He's really good at pariffing what's going on too.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a trait that your good safeties have to

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<v Speaker 3>have because it happens back there so quick and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>is on him so fast. I just like the way

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<v Speaker 3>he recognizes things that are happening from the back end forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Certain players from certain schools at certain positions get my

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<v Speaker 1>attention more. Coach Mac, you mentioned the Alabama Corners because

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Saban coaches the Corners. Well, guess what, Kirby Smart

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<v Speaker 1>played exactly at Georgia. He was a safety. So if

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<v Speaker 1>there's ever a Georgia's safety out there, my interest is peaked.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know what. And that's such a great point, Mike.

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<v Speaker 3>And and that's I mean that that's dialed in because

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<v Speaker 3>you got Javon Bullard sitting back here at five ten

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<v Speaker 3>and a half one ninety eight four four seven forty.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and the point that you make a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the instructions that these guys get coming

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<v Speaker 3>up can either be way advantageous are they can be

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<v Speaker 3>a deficit. You know of bad habits that you have

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<v Speaker 3>to break. To your point, you're not gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>break a whole lot of bad habits with safeties out

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<v Speaker 3>of Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Who is Tyler neuben your number one rated

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<v Speaker 1>safety in this list? Ret Bryan.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Neuban is six' one two oh five, so good size,

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<v Speaker 2>good size wing. He's a long player, arms thirty two inches,

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<v Speaker 2>so his wings seventy seven and a half inches at

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<v Speaker 2>his pro day four five nine and the forty thirty

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<v Speaker 2>one and a half inch vertical leap, ten foot broad

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<v Speaker 2>short shuttle, and three cone drill good and lead his

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<v Speaker 2>team in I and t's in the last couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years there at Minnesota. He's a nice player.

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<v Speaker 1>So Coach Mack to you, who is Tyler Nuban from Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 3>Tyler Nuban's a guy that just gets the game. He

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<v Speaker 3>understands the game a safety. That's big for a safety, Mike,

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<v Speaker 3>they have to understand the game of what's going on

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<v Speaker 3>in front of him. Is He's very nuanced in what

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<v Speaker 3>he understands. He's not the best athlete of this group

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<v Speaker 3>as far as just numbers wise, but when you watch

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<v Speaker 3>him play, you see that he's got a sense of

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on. And then also he always is in

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<v Speaker 3>the right place, and a safety has to be in

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<v Speaker 3>the right place. He's a good tackler. He's a good tackler,

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<v Speaker 3>and if they ever break through from the front back

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<v Speaker 3>there to him, he'll get him on the ground. But

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<v Speaker 3>I just I like the way he plays the game,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know the kid, but I think just

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<v Speaker 3>watching him, I like the way he sees the game

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<v Speaker 3>from the back end.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk about favorites for you to outside

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<v Speaker 1>of your top five safeties. Coach Mack, give me a

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<v Speaker 1>favorite in this safety class for the twenty twenty four draft.

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<v Speaker 3>I like, uh, Cameron Kinchins from Miamia, Florida. Cameron Kinchins

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<v Speaker 3>from Miami of Florida. Five eleven two O three four

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<v Speaker 3>six five forty but a one five nine ten thirty

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<v Speaker 3>five inch vertical jump, nine to two broad jump. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a guy that I think later on down in

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<v Speaker 3>the down in you know, down in the draft, there's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a run on these he'll be I think

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<v Speaker 3>he'll probably be taken in the probably third or fourth round.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Okay, but but.

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<v Speaker 3>There's there's something to his game that I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>like his game because again, when I look at safeties,

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<v Speaker 3>I look at guys that are cognizant of what's going on,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and I look at guys that don't take

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<v Speaker 3>false steps. I look at guys that got really really

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<v Speaker 3>good eyes, you know, guys that don't panic.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this guy, Ret Brian who is your favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>At the safety position minus Malik Mustafa from Wake Forest

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<v Speaker 2>two year starter. There talking about a guy had one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred ninety two tackles, fifteen of those for lost, four

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback sacks, four four fumbles, ten pass breakups, three I iNTS,

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<v Speaker 2>not scared of contact at all, and he has experience

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<v Speaker 2>as a gunner and a regular on the kick coverage team.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are super things you need. And he's round three,

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<v Speaker 2>round four guy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, sleeper at the safety position. Ret.

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<v Speaker 2>Bryan Sioni Vaki from Utah. He's a guy that you

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<v Speaker 2>must kind of pay attention to.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he a Senior Bowl guy too? Yes, Yes he was.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was there, Mike, and he showed up

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<v Speaker 1>time and time and time again. You're like, who is

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<v Speaker 1>this dude? And his team Cole Bishop, who is your

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<v Speaker 1>number five safety, also made plays. But I thought Vaki

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<v Speaker 1>might have been more impressive in terms of the on

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<v Speaker 1>field stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, uto I had a really good defense. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they got two safeties that are in this

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<v Speaker 3>draft that will be drafted. That's a good start.

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<v Speaker 2>H Yes. Oni Vaki uh five eleven two ten had

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<v Speaker 2>a four six two forty but a thirty nine and

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<v Speaker 2>a half inch vertical leap ten and a half foot

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<v Speaker 2>broad so the explosion is there, three cone drill, short shuttle. Good.

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<v Speaker 2>He was one of those guys I thought won the

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<v Speaker 2>week at the Senior Bowl at his position.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing about him, let me add on rets

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<v Speaker 3>guy he did twenty reps at two twenty five. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so he stacked in there and what you saw a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit at the Senior Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Mack, who is your sleeper at the safety position.

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<v Speaker 3>From Lubbock, Texas? Go West Texas, Okay? Dadrian Taylor Demberson

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<v Speaker 3>from Texas Tech. Five ten one ninety seven four four

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<v Speaker 3>one forty thirty eight inch vertical ten to three broad jump.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is a guy that, once he gets

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<v Speaker 3>even more coaching in the National Football League, is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a guy just because of his physical gifts

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<v Speaker 3>that's gonna be somebody you're gonna like. He's gonna he's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be immediate help on teams, you know, because of

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<v Speaker 3>his length and also you know, because of his speed. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy to me will probably be a fourth safety

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<v Speaker 3>when he comes into the league and will I think

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<v Speaker 3>quickly be able to accelerate because he's got everything that

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<v Speaker 3>it takes right now. You know, playing there in the

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<v Speaker 3>big twelve, there's you know, there's not a whole lot

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<v Speaker 3>of run support stuff that they have to do, and

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<v Speaker 3>so he's kind of back there in space. But just

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<v Speaker 3>once he gets into his movement skills and he's got lenked,

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<v Speaker 3>I like safeties that I've got a little length to

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<v Speaker 3>him if I'm going down later on in the draft

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<v Speaker 3>to look at traits. We talk about traits later on

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<v Speaker 3>in the draft thirty eight vertical, ten to three broad.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's there no safety's in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>Safety say no safeties in the first round? Would you

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<v Speaker 1>say that, like running backs, safety is a position that

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<v Speaker 1>you could do very well on Day three in the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four NFL Draft. I believe that, I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>believe that great quality in terms of that maybe fifth, sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>seventh round, maybe even undrafted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there could be undrafted guys that can help you.

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<v Speaker 2>And again just an example, you know, like Malik Mustafa

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm there's some of these guys that they're core

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<v Speaker 2>special teams guys, which is what you need anyway, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you need if you're gonna especially if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a free agent, but if you're on the back end

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<v Speaker 2>of the draft in round sixty seven, you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>asked to do those kinds of.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the other thing, Mike Conritt, that's very important and

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<v Speaker 3>once you start looking at going too that third day.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing that you look at when you're looking at

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<v Speaker 3>your board, you're looking at how many numbers you have

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<v Speaker 3>perposition for training camp, and you always you want to

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<v Speaker 3>take at least fifteen DB's total to training camp because

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<v Speaker 3>these guys are running all the time. There's gonna be pulls,

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<v Speaker 3>there's gonna be you know, ins and outs, but you

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<v Speaker 3>want to be able to fill and with your seventh

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<v Speaker 3>round picks sometimes instead of staying out of the wild West,

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<v Speaker 3>show that free agency is. You know, once you start

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<v Speaker 3>going the boiler room with the phone calls, take a

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<v Speaker 3>seventh round pick on a guy that can help you

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<v Speaker 3>there because those are big numbers that you have to

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<v Speaker 3>fill out in the secondary and also on the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 3>You need numbers when you go into training camp with

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<v Speaker 3>those people. That's why you'll see, especially towards the end

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<v Speaker 3>of that or the middle or the end of that

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<v Speaker 3>third day, people will start looking at their boards looking

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<v Speaker 3>at what they've got coming to training camp saying we

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<v Speaker 3>need numbers here. Let's get them ranked ABC and D

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<v Speaker 3>up here, and if we can save ourselves from having

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<v Speaker 3>to negotiate, because all of a sudden, when you start negotiating,

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<v Speaker 3>all of their agents think they're number one picks, right, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so that saves you.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing about the safety position, too, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is important, is if you're evaluating it towards the active roster,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're looking at it more towards can this

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<v Speaker 1>guy be on our forty eight, not just our fifty three,

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<v Speaker 1>because unless you have an injury, you don't normally see

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<v Speaker 1>a safety who is a healthy scratch. You want all

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<v Speaker 1>those guys have to be up on game day, which

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<v Speaker 1>rent makes the team's thing all the more important at

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<v Speaker 1>the safety spot. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, You guys are pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good at this. Come back and do it again on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Really good. Fair to Midland. Would you come back again?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you do you think you could make it?

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<v Speaker 3>By what did HTT say on the text chain that

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 3>you sent that time when you asked for the first

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<v Speaker 3>day if we could do it? His reply was no, No,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm busy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'm busy. Well, we're going to get you

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<v Speaker 1>back on Monday for another OTP to do defensive linemen

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<v Speaker 1>and linebackers for coach Mack and Rett Bright and Mike Keith.

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