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Speaker 2: the most talented young sports talk radio show host in
Speaker 2: the country to one of the co hosts on Breakfast
Speaker 2: Ball in FS one. An interesting guy who's got a
Speaker 2: lot of different thoughts and a lot of different things,
Speaker 2: and so I'm going to try to bring him on
Speaker 2: regular to hear on the volume. So obviously when I
Speaker 2: bring you on, there's Chicago stories, and there's you have
Speaker 2: real keen insight to Chicago. And it's interesting because I
Speaker 2: think Caleb Williams is one of the most talented quarterbacks
Speaker 2: I've ever seen in college. I think there's an lway
Speaker 2: a little Andrew Luck. He's like Josh Allen, he's not
Speaker 2: consistently accurate out of college. You have to work on
Speaker 2: that with Josh Allen. Aaron Rodgers was very accurate in college.
Speaker 2: Certain guys are that's not what he is.
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 2: You got a sandpaper him. And when I talk about
Speaker 2: the Bears dysfunction, you and I get it, you especially.
Speaker 3: We tend to.
Speaker 2: Think of Detroit, Loserville in Cleveland. But because Chicago did
Speaker 2: have one of the great teams ever and because they
Speaker 2: had Michael Jordan, and we've had Oprah and Siskel and Ebert,
Speaker 2: and it's a big city and everybody loves it, you
Speaker 2: tend to think, oh, the Bears are well funded, the
Speaker 2: facilities are this, that's the outside, but take the audience
Speaker 2: to the mccaskey's the dysfunction of this organization since you've
Speaker 2: been a kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they got an indoor practice facility with
Speaker 1: a roof that was high enough where you could hunt
Speaker 1: a football within the last decade, like it's every other
Speaker 1: team in the league had it, so multiple practice facilities.
Speaker 1: Like John Fox, to his credit, did kind of bring
Speaker 1: them forward. Him and Ryan Pace of like, hey, we
Speaker 1: need to upgrade these things. But like that's twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: We're talking about here, so just in terms of the investment,
Speaker 1: the practice facilities. I mean, the old thing on the
Speaker 1: mccaskey's back with the eighty five Bears was that they
Speaker 1: would throw around, you know, nickels like manhole covers, like
Speaker 1: it is a historically cheap organization. They are owners that
Speaker 1: inherited it, right, it's a charter heritage franchise.
Speaker 3: But so their wealth is the Bears, right.
Speaker 1: They're not an oil tycoon, they're not real estate magnets.
Speaker 1: Their wealth is in this valuation of a football team
Speaker 1: that they don't have of hundreds and hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: of dollars just sitting in cash from some other business.
Speaker 1: They're not the Walmart people.
Speaker 3: And so it is.
Speaker 1: It's a big family. It's a dysfunctional family. It's been
Speaker 1: passed down. There's like nine siblings. Some of them have
Speaker 1: no interest in football whatsoever and want to get out
Speaker 1: and want to cash in and liquidate. George McCaskey, who's
Speaker 1: kind of the face of it now, is self admittedly
Speaker 1: just a fan. He's like, I know nothing about football.
Speaker 1: It's like, George, you've been doing this forever, Like either
Speaker 1: learn something about football, or stop saying or stop saying
Speaker 1: that you don't know anything about football, because then you're
Speaker 1: like in the meetings hiring all these people. So there's
Speaker 1: been there's countless examples of the historic dysfunction and the
Speaker 1: cheapness with the Bears. I do think it's gotten a
Speaker 1: lot better in the last five to ten years, and
Speaker 1: the money has gotten so crazy with the national television
Speaker 1: contracts that it's it's harder to be cheap. There are
Speaker 1: some ways still, like they were going to hire Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 1: That was never going to happen. They were not going
Speaker 1: to give someone twenty million dollars a year, fifteen million
Speaker 1: dollars a year with that type of go and celebrity.
Speaker 3: They were just not prepared to do it.
Speaker 1: And that is a huge bummer because he wanted to
Speaker 1: be the Bears coach, or he was at least very
Speaker 1: intrigued by being the Bears coach for the last like
Speaker 1: two hiring cycles.
Speaker 3: So it holds them back in some ways. For sure.
Speaker 1: Ryan Poles I think is really smart and I think
Speaker 1: he's been a very good hire overall. I would not
Speaker 1: have kept Matt Eberflus. I think that was a mistake
Speaker 1: when they got the number one draft pick with Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1: I would have lined up Caleb Williams with the best
Speaker 1: offensive head coach you could get, because my thing was, like,
Speaker 1: by definition, you are limiting your talent pool, Like you're
Speaker 1: only able to hire coordinators for Caleb, who then could
Speaker 1: leave to go be head coaches somewhere else Whereas if
Speaker 1: you fire Matt Eberflus, I think Ben Johnson leaves Detroit
Speaker 1: like that would have.
Speaker 3: Been pretty good.
Speaker 1: Like if you don't get Harbaugh Ben Johnson, he leaves
Speaker 1: your division rival and he comes and coaches Caleb, that's
Speaker 1: a pretty good spot to be in.
Speaker 3: So I thought keeping eber Fluse was a mistake and.
Speaker 1: Where there What I'm afraid of right now is not
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. I think his talent is so undeniable that
Speaker 1: he actually will be able to overcome some of the
Speaker 1: stink of the Bears. We've seen that before, like Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: to use your example, he's had a defensive head coach
Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott. He's had one guy who is maybe
Speaker 1: a borderline top five receiver in Stefan Diggs. Other than that,
Speaker 1: not much in terms of elite playmakers.
Speaker 2: Just got a run game, just got one this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's it is what I mean. He had
Speaker 1: Dable and Dorsey and now he's got Brady, so he's
Speaker 1: had three different play callers. Defensive head coach terrible Drafters.
Speaker 1: Took him a couple of years, but the talent was
Speaker 1: undeniable that he got there. So the Chargers have changed
Speaker 1: over a bunch with Justin Herbert, bad coaches, different play callers.
Speaker 1: He hasn't won big, but as a talent has overcome it.
Speaker 1: So I think Caleb is going to be fine. What
Speaker 1: I am worried about, though, is when it was John
Speaker 1: Fox with Mitch Trubisky. Everyone knew that Fox was not
Speaker 1: going to be the guy from Mitch long term, but
Speaker 1: they didn't want to fire him a year early and
Speaker 1: pay him to go away. So it was John Fox
Speaker 1: and Dow Loggins for a year of Mitch Trubisky. Then
Speaker 1: they fired the whole staff and hired Matt Naggy. So
Speaker 1: now it's two systems in two years, and that put
Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky behind the eight ball. And then they did
Speaker 1: the exact same thing with Justin Fields. He was there
Speaker 1: for one year of Matt Naggy and then they fired
Speaker 1: him and.
Speaker 3: They moved on to the next guy.
Speaker 1: And so then Justin Fields had two systems in two years,
Speaker 1: two different went from Matt Naggy to Luke Getzi. So
Speaker 1: now you're learning two different offenses, two different play callers,
Speaker 1: two different sets of you know, ideas and fundamentals. And
Speaker 1: so if this doesn't work and you end up firing
Speaker 1: Eberflus and Shane Waldron, it will be the exact same
Speaker 1: thing that you did to your last two first round
Speaker 1: pick quarterbacks, and that just I don't care who it is,
Speaker 1: it stunts your development to not have continuity of coaching.
Speaker 1: So I'm not worried about the talent. I am absolutely
Speaker 1: worried about the coaching around him. And the line is
Speaker 1: clearly regressing and even worse than it was supposed to be.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of that is also Shane
Speaker 1: Waldron because and I'm giving you a long answer, but
Speaker 1: you wanted all of the context. Yeah, they were the
Speaker 1: second ranked rushing team in the NFL last year. It's
Speaker 1: the four of the five offensive linemen are the exact same,
Speaker 1: and in theory they upgraded at center, though it looks
Speaker 1: like they maybe somehow it downgraded and Ryan Bates has
Speaker 1: been hurt. But that's not all justin fields. But Khuil
Speaker 1: Herbert was a five yard per carry guy. So, like
Speaker 1: I would have told you coming into the year, Kevin
Speaker 1: Jenkins their left guard, Nate Davis their right guard when
Speaker 1: he plays, and Darnell Wright their right tackle, who was
Speaker 1: the tenth overall pick. All better run blockers than pass blockers,
Speaker 1: and they're the worst running team in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's no question the O line has significantly regressed.
Speaker 2: And most of those guys were young, ascending players, right.
Speaker 1: And so to me, I don't believe that these guys
Speaker 1: just forgot how to run block. I think that there's
Speaker 1: something in and I can't I'm not able to tell
Speaker 1: you what it is, but I think Shane Waldron clearly
Speaker 1: is not doing a good job. Another example, week one,
Speaker 1: Gerald Everett out snapped Cole Kmet. That makes no sense.
Speaker 1: It makes sense, It makes no col Commett, top ten
Speaker 1: tight end in the NFL for sure, young athletic, good blocker,
Speaker 1: good pass catcher, coming off the best season of his career,
Speaker 1: homegrown kid under contract in his athletic prime.
Speaker 3: That made no sense.
Speaker 1: And they corrected it in week two and Week three
Speaker 1: and week three at a Monster game. But it's like,
Speaker 1: how do I know more about the personnel of the
Speaker 1: Bears than Shane Waldron does? And I get that there's
Speaker 1: a learning curve, but come on, man, you're a professional
Speaker 1: coach making seven figures. So I think Shane Waldron's been
Speaker 1: a disaster through three weeks, and I hope that he
Speaker 1: can correct it.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes we all know there's about six great
Speaker 2: coaches in the NFL and about six great quarterbacks. Well
Speaker 2: there's maybe six great coordinators. Like, for instance, Brian Flores
Speaker 2: for the Vikings defensively is a great coordinator, just absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 2: Brock Purty and c J. Stroud the last two weekends
Speaker 2: have said, yeah, I've never seen any of these coverages.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what I was looking at.
Speaker 2: Like Brock Curty is one of the cognitive guys in
Speaker 2: this league. That is Sam Donald played with him for
Speaker 2: a year and Donald's like, I've never seen anybody that
Speaker 2: good at the line of scrimmage. He's I mean, it's
Speaker 2: almost like on the spectrum, like you're like, how does
Speaker 2: he know that? Like he's just different. There's a rain
Speaker 2: Man quality, Like how does he memorize all this stuff?
Speaker 2: So Brian Flora is Viking defensive coordinator, He's just better.
Speaker 2: Shanahan is an offensive coordinator. I made Matt Schaub. You know,
Speaker 2: Brian Hoyer had a winning record. I don't think people
Speaker 2: think about this. It's like when you get in a plane,
Speaker 2: but every sixth pilot is great. The rest of our
Speaker 2: guys they take off, they land, they got They're not
Speaker 2: doing Sully on the Hudson. They would have crashed that
Speaker 2: plane into the Tapanzie Bridge h Hudson. You know, they
Speaker 2: would have hit a bridge. And so I think when
Speaker 2: I watched the Bears and I look at their talent,
Speaker 2: is would the Bears have like Washington spent big money
Speaker 2: on Kingsbury like the new owners. I mean, I know Sean,
Speaker 2: they went after Sean Payton. Money was not an object
Speaker 2: with Washington. Now it just so happens. The Denver owners
Speaker 2: are richer than the Washington owners. But Kingsbury like got
Speaker 2: top dollar. I wonder about the Bears, is it like
Speaker 2: you should I've had? I mean, it's I look at
Speaker 2: it and I think to myself, Brian Flores he got fired.
Speaker 2: Maybe he got a discount. But I always feel like
Speaker 2: some organizations don't hire well.
Speaker 1: Listen, I I it's undeniable, man, and first time coaches
Speaker 1: are cheaper, and you don't fire early because you don't
Speaker 1: want to have dead money on guaranteed contracts, like paying
Speaker 1: guys not to work for you. That is a place
Speaker 1: where you can win. I'm saying in the margins. That's
Speaker 1: not to minimize coaching. It's just the Packers can spend
Speaker 1: the same as the Jaguars, who can spend the same
Speaker 1: as the Cowboys, who could spend the same as the
Speaker 1: Rams in free agency because there's a salary cap.
Speaker 3: There's a salary for on players.
Speaker 1: But that is a place coaching where there's cap that
Speaker 1: you could just throw, catch the problem that's and get
Speaker 1: the best. And that is a place where ownership can
Speaker 1: make a difference. And that's why I said, like far
Speaker 1: ball was just not on their list. They were not
Speaker 1: willing to do it. And so yeah, I definitely think
Speaker 1: that they go cheap in that regard and that that's
Speaker 1: undeniably an issue now. But I gotta be fair man
Speaker 1: Like once they high once they said they were keeping Eberflus,
Speaker 1: I thought that Shane Waldron's resume made sense. He had
Speaker 1: been a play caller before, and he had had top
Speaker 1: you know, the eleventh ranked offense, the sixteenth ranked offense,
Speaker 1: the seventeenth ranked offense with Gino Smith, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I've seen the Bears hire first time play callers my
Speaker 1: whole life. At least this guy has done it. And
Speaker 1: he was a part of the thing that rejuvenated Gino
Speaker 1: Smith put him in the Comelayer the year conversation thirty
Speaker 1: touchdown guy. I was like, if he can turn a
Speaker 1: mid level talent into a high performer, imagine what he
Speaker 1: could do with a high level performer, right, or a
Speaker 1: high level talent in Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 3: So I was.
Speaker 1: I was upset that they were in the situation where
Speaker 1: they could only interview people for the coordinator spot, but
Speaker 1: I actually thought on paper at the time that it
Speaker 1: made sense. So I'm I'm very down on how it's
Speaker 1: looked through three games. I'm not completely writing it off,
Speaker 1: but they could but they could fire him at the
Speaker 1: end of this year for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 3: So you were.
Speaker 2: Optimistic with Shane Waldron taking Geno to the sixteenth best offense.
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell has made Sam Darnold, Joe Namath and his prime.
Speaker 2: So now that's the gap I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: So the really great well and that's why I wanted
Speaker 1: an offensive head coach. Yes, yes, yes, exactly well and
Speaker 1: and man the NFC North like.
Speaker 3: Matt Matt Lafleur, Okay, Matt Lafleur.
Speaker 1: People were legitimately having the conversation of if Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: was done, like six or seven years ago, Matt Lafleur
Speaker 1: replaces Mike McCarthy, he gets two more MVPs and a
Speaker 1: couple of NFC Championship Game appearances out of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Then Jordan Love comes in and is instantly awesome, and
Speaker 1: he gets two hundred and twenty five million dollars.
Speaker 3: And then Jordan Love gets hurt.
Speaker 1: Malik Willis had been in the building for nineteen days
Speaker 1: and he is undefeated. With Matt Lafleur, they put up
Speaker 1: thirty this past week. You got Kevin O'Connell doing that
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and you got Ben Johnson doing what he's
Speaker 1: doing in Detroit. There are damn good offensive coaches in
Speaker 1: the NFC North. Like Shane Waldron is a distant for us,
Speaker 1: which was another reason why I was You've got to
Speaker 1: hire an offensive head coach to try to compete with
Speaker 1: these guys.
Speaker 2: So you know, we've talked on the podcast. I don't
Speaker 2: I don't spend a lot of time. In fact, I've
Speaker 2: always argued because Skip Bayles's talk Cowboys incessantly and lebron
Speaker 2: so I don't talk Cowboys as much, mostly because the lead. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm not. It just doesn't interest me. But it
Speaker 2: is interesting that the Lakers and the Cowboys have become
Speaker 2: sort of the same business where the brand is way
Speaker 2: better than the product, and that they're basically a family business.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Lakers are run by Kobe's agent, and
Speaker 2: I know Kurt Rambis and like him, but the Rambas
Speaker 2: family is involved. It is a lot of it's a
Speaker 2: lot of people close to the Bus family. And that's
Speaker 2: the same thing. It's Charlotte Jones, it's Stephen Jones, it's
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones. There's not a lot of outside influence, but
Speaker 2: they're they're remarkable brands. I don't the Lakers are. I
Speaker 2: think Anthony Davis is just fantastic. I thought last year
Speaker 2: he was easily the best defensive player in the League,
Speaker 2: and you know, Rudy Gobert whatever. But I don't think
Speaker 2: they're a championship team. They just don't have They're not close.
Speaker 2: These teams like Boston have like eight really good players.
Speaker 2: Seven are the good players. But I look at the
Speaker 2: Cowboys and it's this is what I'm about to say,
Speaker 2: is really insane.
Speaker 3: Oh good that the if you really take.
Speaker 2: A deep breath, the Cowboys have not won multiple playoff
Speaker 2: games in any year in twenty nine years.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Just think of that's that's not a big ask at
Speaker 2: the NFC. The last four they've had good quarterback play.
Speaker 2: Romo and Dak are b plus to a minus quarterback.
Speaker 2: They're a very good quarterback play and the Kirk Cousins mode.
Speaker 2: They've had offensive coaches who are more than competent. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've had some offensive coaches, and I'm always fascinated by
Speaker 2: really successful people Jerry Jones that have a blind spot
Speaker 2: that is so obvious. The radio hits the fact that
Speaker 2: he wants to be called GM and I'm like, Jerry,
Speaker 2: you're this oil maverick. You're a brilliant businessman. He and
Speaker 2: Stan Kronky are two of the smartest guys in the
Speaker 2: league other owners lean on Jerry. Does he not get
Speaker 2: how disfunctional? I mean they really they always lead the
Speaker 2: NFL in retaining their own draft picks. And so is
Speaker 2: it ego? Is it a blind spot Jerry's vanity and personality.
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated when I see like Elon Musk similarly, does
Speaker 2: he not see what he is?
Speaker 3: Well? What are the sociopathic? You know? Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: You've probably met a lot more billionaires than I have.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of normal ones.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not a you get into this like
Speaker 1: stratosphere of ego entitlement, you literally own the building. It's just,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just it has to warp your
Speaker 1: sense of reality and things that make sense. But I
Speaker 1: do think that the media sometimes gets it wrong with
Speaker 1: with Jerry. And I'm not saying he's crazy like a
Speaker 1: fox or that like everything is calculated, but.
Speaker 3: He likes it. Chaos is his fuel. He does not.
Speaker 1: Believe that us talking about Ceedee Lamb's contract and Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott's contract and Mike McCarthy's contract and his radio appearances
Speaker 1: and weird things that he says, he does not believe
Speaker 1: that that has any impact on wins and losses. He
Speaker 1: doesn't and and in fact, he probably thinks that it
Speaker 1: has an absolute impact on the ratings that they get
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football and at four twenty five on
Speaker 1: Sunday on Fox. And he very well might be right,
Speaker 1: because they are everyone cares about him. You might hate him,
Speaker 1: you might love him, but the numbers bear out people
Speaker 1: care about him. So I think that he is feeding
Speaker 1: the sports take industrial complex because it's oxygen for him.
Speaker 1: He wants to be relevant, he wants to be talked about.
Speaker 1: It's clearly an ego play, but also it programs a
Speaker 1: lot of airtime and that has to be good for business.
Speaker 1: I guarantee he subscribes to the all publicity is good
Speaker 1: publicity mantra. We're talking about him and that's making him money,
Speaker 1: either directly or indirectly. So that's what And by the way,
Speaker 1: I also think, and I said this on the first
Speaker 1: week of Breakfast Ball because we were on before the
Speaker 1: season started, I was like, these contracts all get done,
Speaker 1: no one holds out anymore, Like they not really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor for a game, Melvin Gordon for four games,
Speaker 1: Chris Jones for a game, like host Levy on Bell.
Speaker 1: No one actually holds out. You're like, oh, they should
Speaker 1: have signed Dak Prescott early. Dak didn't want to sign early.
Speaker 1: Dak wanted to to sign first. He wanted Jordan Love
Speaker 1: to sign first because that just gave him more money.
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb wanted aj Brown to sign first. He wanted
Speaker 1: Devonte Smith to sign first. He wanted Justin Jefferson to
Speaker 1: sign first, because they know that they have the Cowboys
Speaker 1: over a barrel, because Dak had a no tag clause
Speaker 1: and a no trade clause and Ceedee Lamb got one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty targets last year. If Ceedee Lamb isn't
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys, they would go from the highest scoring
Speaker 1: team in the league to awful. He mat he the
Speaker 1: more to Dallas than any non quarterback, matters to their offense,
Speaker 1: more than Christian McCaffrey, more than Tyreek Hill. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: I just I think chaos is part of the formula
Speaker 1: to the popularity in Dallas, and I think it's all
Speaker 1: by design.
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Speaker 2: and I said, Deshaun Watson has is considered a star.
Speaker 2: But if you had a minute thirty left in a game,
Speaker 2: one time out and had to go seventy yards doable
Speaker 2: same players. Would you take Gardner Minshew or Deshaun Watson
Speaker 2: to be your quarterback? And I said, I'd take Gardner
Speaker 2: Minshew because he moves about his well as Deshaun. He
Speaker 2: plays with more confidence and I think he's more accurate.
Speaker 2: And he's like, no, that's crazy. And so we got
Speaker 2: into talking about this and I said, Jaden Daniels or
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. And I said, here's what I know about
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels. He moves better than Trevor. He appears to
Speaker 2: be more accurate than Trevor. And I love Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 2: but I have seen him now that Buffalo game, which
Speaker 2: was at least the first half a standalone game. Dude,
Speaker 2: he missed the crossing route that is a any college
Speaker 2: quarterback can make it effortlessly. He missed a pass in
Speaker 2: the flat that he was low and behind him. And
Speaker 2: I said he's too loose. I said, he looks like
Speaker 2: a quarterback that if you said, hey, you want to
Speaker 2: go golf Friday afternoon or watch more film, he choose golf.
Speaker 2: He's too talented to be that loose and bad on
Speaker 2: the layups. It's not mechanical. Because he was great in
Speaker 2: high school, he was great in college, and he was
Speaker 2: he's shown signs. Yes, you put Trevor Lawrence down there
Speaker 2: right now, minute thirty in a game, I would take
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins over him. I think I'd take Gardner Minshew
Speaker 2: over it. I'm not joking on Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: No, I think that it is totally fair. I do
Speaker 1: think that you can lose your mechanics. He brought up clear,
Speaker 1: he brought up you brought up golf right like a yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Any any golfer will tell you that you can lose
Speaker 1: your mechanics, you can lose your swing. So I do
Speaker 1: think it is in play that Trevor Lawrence is. I mean,
Speaker 1: hell Mahomes said it this week that he doesn't think
Speaker 1: that he his mechanics are completely locked in, that he's
Speaker 1: relying too much on his arm and sat right now
Speaker 1: with his feet and his footwork. So I do think
Speaker 1: that when you have an arm like Trevor Lawrence, which
Speaker 1: is a top ten arm in the NFL, it makes
Speaker 1: it possible that you you lose your fundamentals a little
Speaker 1: bit more. And so I don't think they're gonna bench
Speaker 1: him like thug Peterson was like, anything's on the table, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think it is, Like I I don't think
Speaker 1: you're benching a two hundred and fifty million dollar quarterback,
Speaker 1: but I do think that you need to be working
Speaker 1: on footwork fundamentals and breaking him down a little bit.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson in week one looked like he forgot how
Speaker 1: to play football.
Speaker 3: We charted it.
Speaker 1: He had six passes that landed out of bounce, like
Speaker 1: they're just like straight not catchable balls. And then that's
Speaker 1: not including airmailing guys throwing it at their feet hurtling up.
Speaker 1: So I think he's regressed. I mean, he's been a
Speaker 1: little bit better since, but he's regressed terribly. Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: has regressed terribly and Minshew, it's just funny you bring
Speaker 1: him up. What I've always said about him is like
Speaker 1: he's gonna go down swinging, like he's a fun quarterback
Speaker 1: to watch, yes, oh, and like but like delude usional confidence,
Speaker 1: like he will he believes he can make every throw.
Speaker 1: It's like Mario Chalmers when he was on the heat
Speaker 1: and he had teammates that were Lebron, Bosh and Wade,
Speaker 1: and he was like why don't you ever drop up
Speaker 1: the final play for me? And it's like it's like
Speaker 1: I had a pretty big shot at Kansas in the
Speaker 1: final four. It's like, yeah, buddy, but that's Dwayne Wade,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like your Gardner Minshew, why
Speaker 1: do you think you can make that throw? But like
Speaker 1: one out of two or three times he can make it,
Speaker 1: and so he does it. So he's a fun guy
Speaker 1: to watch. But I will say too, man, it's hard.
Speaker 1: Quarterback play in the NFL is very clearly hard. It's
Speaker 1: hard to project, it's hard to pay, it's hard to
Speaker 1: be consistent in and so that's also why. And this
Speaker 1: isn't what you asked about, but I'm gonna say it anyway.
Speaker 1: Everyone being surprised by Josh Allen it bothers me. He
Speaker 1: is clearly the second best quarterback in football, and he
Speaker 1: has been for a couple of years now. Yeah, yards, touchdowns, wins.
Speaker 1: Since twenty twenty, he's second in wins, he's second in yards,
Speaker 1: and he's first in touchdowns, all to the Mahomes.
Speaker 3: You look at their numbers. Now, it's regular season.
Speaker 1: Mahomes obviously has him in the postseason undeniable, but yards
Speaker 1: touchdowns wins. He's two to two and one in terms
Speaker 1: of ranks since twenty twenty. And he doesn't have Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: he didn't have Tyreek Hill, he didn't have Travis Kelce.
Speaker 1: He is a remarkable football player, and so be like,
Speaker 1: I'm so surprised that Josh Allen is doing this this year.
Speaker 1: Why because he lost Gabe Davis and Stefan Diggs, who
Speaker 1: like wit the last seven games of last season.
Speaker 3: Like it just we need to do a better job.
Speaker 1: I think of, like, oh, you're not Mahomes, so we
Speaker 1: can like pick you apart and criticize you. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying no criticism is fair. Mahomes has thrown three terrible
Speaker 1: interceptions this year for total, Like obviously anybody can be criticized,
Speaker 1: but like, if you've got a problem with Josh Allen
Speaker 1: at quarterback, then the only guy you're allowed to like
Speaker 1: is Mahomes.
Speaker 3: He's the only one.
Speaker 1: It's a really hard position to be consistently great at well.
Speaker 2: It's also people have never I've read every Phil Micholson
Speaker 2: book and he doesn't have the discipline of Tiger mentally,
Speaker 2: like like physically, he didn't have it in his prime.
Speaker 2: If you take one person off the planet. Tiger Woods.
Speaker 2: Phil Micholson has like eight more major wins. Like it's
Speaker 2: there's some time. I mean, the Utah Jazz are like
Speaker 2: considered kind of a dynasty. They've got two titles without
Speaker 2: one player, Michael Jordan. Like we also, we don't appreciate
Speaker 2: in life how these cacasional mediors change. Like Charles Bartley
Speaker 2: never won a title again, go to the final against Jordan, Jesus,
Speaker 2: Charles was insanely good. I mean, so they go back
Speaker 2: to those you go back to those Suns teams. This
Speaker 2: was before everybody took threes. Danny Google the games. They
Speaker 2: were scoring one thirty four regularly with mid range jumpers.
Speaker 2: They were in chanting. Barkley's team changed the league.
Speaker 1: Like the CEO of Burger King does very well for himself.
Speaker 1: The guy who runs Pepsi, he's great. He's got a
Speaker 1: lot of houses. Like, yeah, it's not McDonald's and Coke,
Speaker 1: but it's okay. It's it's okay to be second best
Speaker 1: when you're Peyton manning square all time.
Speaker 3: Now, Listen, I'm like one of.
Speaker 1: The last people in the world who's willing to at
Speaker 1: least entertain a Peyton Manning was better than Tom Brady argument,
Speaker 1: but it's I think about Peyton is like, I've never
Speaker 1: seen a quarterback control a game more than Peyton Manning did.
Speaker 2: I think he literally changed the position.
Speaker 1: Correct, And the other thing that I love about Peyton's
Speaker 1: like legacy four super bowls with four coaches.
Speaker 3: Yeah he was the system.
Speaker 1: But yeah, four super bowls four different coaches, that's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: Peyton's lebron He is the system correct, Correct, Tom and
Speaker 2: Montana were part and elevated a great system.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, And you can't deny what they have in
Speaker 1: the trophy chest and the winning and I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not going to argue against it, but singular dominance of
Speaker 1: like this guy is the system and you win because
Speaker 1: of this guy, no matter what else you got. Peyton
Speaker 1: is in a class of his own in that regard.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like people are like, are you worried
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels is better than Caleb Williams. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: guess a little, but like it's because it's all a
Speaker 1: crap shoot and it's about situation and no one really knows.
Speaker 1: I think Caleb is gonna be great and gonna be fine,
Speaker 1: and I think he's gotten better week to week to week.
Speaker 1: But I mean, what would JJ McCarthy be doing right
Speaker 1: now if he was getting the Sam Darnold reps? Would
Speaker 1: we be talking about him as an undefeated quarterback.
Speaker 2: In the preseason? It looked amazing, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So like, who the hell knows? Right Bo Nicks?
Speaker 1: One week, the guy can't throw the ball two yards
Speaker 1: past the line of scrimmage. Last week he's slinging it
Speaker 1: all over the field and signaling first down and like
Speaker 1: playing with a bunch of swagger. I'm like in the
Speaker 1: league is I can't believe that I gamble on it
Speaker 1: every week.
Speaker 3: It's impossible. It is impossible to predict.
Speaker 2: By the way, do you let me just say this
Speaker 2: for anybody that listening in our business, I love radio.
Speaker 2: It's therapeutic. It's good for me. Television doesn't give me
Speaker 2: the same high as radio does. But I like tape
Speaker 2: TV because I have a really nice crew and a team,
Speaker 2: and it's funny and it's it's basically I'm doing TV
Speaker 2: radio simulcast. So it's a little of both. Do you
Speaker 2: miss radio and the sort of the journey every day,
Speaker 2: The therapeutic journey of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question, there are just my life right now
Speaker 3: is really weird.
Speaker 1: Like I'm living in a hotel in Times Square and
Speaker 1: trying to sell a house and trying to buy a
Speaker 1: house or rent a house, and the parent from Afar
Speaker 1: and be a husband from Afar. But then I'm also
Speaker 1: like doing a bunch of cool things in New York.
Speaker 1: So I've had like a lot of good weird stories
Speaker 1: and adjusting to being on national TV. There's just a
Speaker 1: lot of weird things that happened with being on TV.
Speaker 1: But then it's like we're gonna talk about the cowboys
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs and the Ravens and the Bengals and
Speaker 1: the Bears, Whereas in local radio, I could sell an
Speaker 1: eight minute story about you know, Wardrobe at FS one,
Speaker 1: and like, I think it would be really entertaining and good.
Speaker 1: But there's no actual outlet for these types of stories.
Speaker 3: So I miss it. I miss my guys.
Speaker 1: I missed like the nitty gritty and the minutia of
Speaker 1: being there for the Caleb story. So yeah, I of course, man,
Speaker 1: it's radio is my first love. All I ever wanted
Speaker 1: to do was afternoon Drive Chicago radio, and I did
Speaker 1: it and I loved it, but it's not the same
Speaker 1: now as it was back in the nineties and the
Speaker 1: early in mid two thousands when I really fell in
Speaker 1: love with it. And so, you know, I just I'm
Speaker 1: an ambitious guy and this opportunity came along, and so
Speaker 1: I'll always miss it.
Speaker 3: But you know, this is this is the right thing
Speaker 3: for me to do.
Speaker 2: You know, people think big cities are all the same.
Speaker 2: So I spent some time in London in the summer,
Speaker 2: which is probably London's like Chicago, but bigger. It has
Speaker 2: the parks, great architecture, terrific food. Believe it or not,
Speaker 2: London's food scene has improved dramatically. There must be ten
Speaker 2: Gordon Ramsey restaurants alone. And when I was in London
Speaker 2: with my wife and my third or fourth time being there,
Speaker 2: I told her, I said, I love Chicago, and I
Speaker 2: think that's why I love London. People lament the weather
Speaker 2: in Chicago, but the springs and falls are amazing. The
Speaker 2: summers are killer. You're on a lake, and the truth
Speaker 2: is wear a coat.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: London similarly, I'm not a heat guy, so I love
Speaker 2: going to walk in Hyde Park. But you know it's interesting.
Speaker 2: You think, oh, New York and Chicago. Danny's lived in
Speaker 2: two big cities. They are the opposites to me, like
Speaker 2: New York and Chicago could not be more. Do people
Speaker 2: think La and New York are different? And they are,
Speaker 2: but give the audience some sense. Do you sense a
Speaker 2: difference between New York and Chicago? Not just tall buildings.
Speaker 2: I think there's a sensibility. I think the river running
Speaker 2: through Chicago changes it. The Midwest changes it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's definitely different. Listen, I'm biased. I love Chicago.
Speaker 1: Chicago's home. I think Chicago's the greatest city in the world.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I went from you go from a garage
Speaker 1: to a garage at work and then work in a
Speaker 1: radio studio the winter. The winter's never bothered me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know football is on in the winter. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be inside anyway. I think this is I think the
Speaker 1: biggest difference is in Chicago we have alleys, so that
Speaker 1: means so that means our trash isn't on the street. Yes,
Speaker 1: and that means you can park in a reasonable manner.
Speaker 1: In New York it's so condensed and no one has
Speaker 1: an alley, so the trash is just on the sidewalk,
Speaker 1: and there aren't really a lot of public parking garages,
Speaker 1: so it's a lot of street parking.
Speaker 3: So it's just it's super congested.
Speaker 1: In Chicago, it's it's obviously there's a ton of traffic
Speaker 1: on the highways. The traffic is brutal, but when you
Speaker 1: get into the city, you can.
Speaker 3: Kind of hide your car, you can kind of hide
Speaker 3: your trash.
Speaker 1: Like, so it's just it's it's clean and liveable and smooth,
Speaker 1: and it feels like a big giant neighborhood. New York
Speaker 1: is congested and dirtier and louder New York.
Speaker 2: New York is Rome. Yes, Yes, New York is Rome,
Speaker 2: which is the same thing. It's just dirty and congested,
Speaker 2: and it's it's a lot. It's overwhelming, and there's they're
Speaker 2: kind of making it up as they go at Chicago's.
Speaker 3: Stacked on top of each other.
Speaker 1: In Rome, you like, it's like, here's a Michelin restaurant,
Speaker 1: here's a world class hotel, and then you know, two
Speaker 1: hundred feet down is an ancient civilization, Like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. They just kept building it on top of
Speaker 1: each other and then and that's kind of.
Speaker 3: How New York feels. But there are things about New York.
Speaker 1: The bodega scene in New York is the greatest thing
Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, like there was like New York
Speaker 1: is so expensive, and it is. It is significantly more
Speaker 1: expensive than Chicago. But you can walk came to a
Speaker 1: place that looks like it should only be able to
Speaker 1: sell you, like a bottle of water and cigarettes and
Speaker 1: a stick of gum in the New York Post and
Speaker 1: you can get like the greatest pastrami sandwich you've ever
Speaker 1: had for nine dollars and it's the only meal you
Speaker 1: need to eat all day. So New York and there's
Speaker 1: a New York's awesome. And also if you find green
Speaker 1: space in New York, it feels like it was an accident. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, green space and then
Speaker 1: it's like the most peaceful, beautiful thing ever. So I've
Speaker 1: gone to like Central Park multiple times and just chilled
Speaker 1: out because it feels like it's a complete oasis amidst
Speaker 1: all of the chaos.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then I always had a feeling whenever when I was
Speaker 2: in Connecticut. I didn't go to Boston ever. I went
Speaker 2: to New York constantly, and I always said, there's an
Speaker 2: energy in New York. That is, it's even much bigger
Speaker 2: than Chicago, and Chicago's got energy.
Speaker 1: It is a Rome.
Speaker 3: It's Rome.
Speaker 2: When you're in Rome, it is just going fast. I
Speaker 2: mean I remember going to Rome with my wife and
Speaker 2: you know, you do a few touristy things, but you know,
Speaker 2: we got vespas and we just went through the city.
Speaker 2: We hired these two guys to take us around and
Speaker 2: it's like get ready, hold on, here we go and
Speaker 2: we're flying through alleys and just the pace of Rome
Speaker 2: in New York it's exhilarating. And I can remember. I
Speaker 2: can remember there was a night in New York.
Speaker 3: It was the fall.
Speaker 2: I took my wife in there and we went and
Speaker 2: it was just a gorgeous fall. It was just it
Speaker 2: was like sixty three degrees. It got crisp. But at
Speaker 2: night we went to a great dinner. It was a
Speaker 2: sexy night. And I remember telling my wife we were
Speaker 2: in I think we were in meat packing district or something.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of the hipsters and the good
Speaker 2: looking people. And I'm like, I understand why people in
Speaker 2: New York think the United States ends at the Hudson River.
Speaker 2: Like Elliott, you get why They're like, Utah, is that
Speaker 2: in the country, Utah?
Speaker 3: Like I get why they think that.
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, Like New York elitism is earned, Like it's
Speaker 1: earned you. Anything can happen here at any time. So
Speaker 1: this is crazy New York story. And I'm out here
Speaker 1: alone and I'm trying to like make the best of it.
Speaker 1: My wife and kids are going to be coming out here,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to move out to the Burbs in
Speaker 1: a house and so like. But I'm in the city
Speaker 1: right now. And so I love stand up comedy. I'm
Speaker 1: obsessed with it. I watch documentaries about it, listen to
Speaker 1: podcasts about it, go to any show. I've been to
Speaker 1: the Comedy Seller a few times already since I've been
Speaker 1: out here. I had been a dozen times before. But
Speaker 1: a guy I know, Chicago comedian named Pat McGann. He
Speaker 1: opens for Sebastian Maniscalco, and Sebastian just did five straight
Speaker 1: nights at Madison Square Garden, most consecutive sellouts by a
Speaker 1: comedian at MSG. I'd never been to anything other than
Speaker 1: a college basketball game at the Garden. So I hit
Speaker 1: up Pat and I was like, hey, man, can I
Speaker 1: come to the show, And he was like, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: thrilled that you're in New York.
Speaker 3: Let's do it. I go.
Speaker 1: He gives me a little backstage pass. We're hanging out
Speaker 1: in his green room before I'm just alone. I'm pumped,
Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, you picked a good night to come.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, man, of course, Madison Square Guard and
Speaker 1: it's kicking off this tour. It's amazing. He's like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: there's three openers tonight. Normally it's two hats podcast co
Speaker 1: host me and Seinfeld and Sebastian had asked Jerry Seinfeld
Speaker 1: to open for him at MSG and Seinfeld comes out.
Speaker 3: The crowd doesn't know.
Speaker 1: Nineteen thousand people go ballistic, and Seinfeld famously hates arenas.
Speaker 3: He really only likes to do theaters and like comedy clubs.
Speaker 1: And he gets out there and he's like, this is
Speaker 1: so great, and he's doing like the Seinfeld books.
Speaker 3: How cool is this. He's like, I'm a kid.
Speaker 1: From the Bronx and I've never played Madison Square Garden before.
Speaker 1: And the place goes ballistic, and then he does twenty
Speaker 1: minutes of like Staten Island humor. You know you're in
Speaker 1: the city, but you're on the island and then you're
Speaker 1: in the Hamptons like he's just like he's just like
Speaker 1: being Seinfeld, but all about New York in front of
Speaker 1: New Yorkers that people are going insane. And I leave
Speaker 1: the garden at ten thirty and it's buzzing and it
Speaker 1: was like the Knicks just hit a walk off.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, only here.
Speaker 1: The only place that guy will do an arena is
Speaker 1: MSG and he'd never done it before and it was
Speaker 1: a complete surprise and it was just it was a
Speaker 1: Wednesday night, it was it was awesome.
Speaker 2: Speaking of comedy, I was so fortunate and that that
Speaker 2: my favorite New York comedy story is I walked into
Speaker 2: Carolines and Colin Quinn in it like looked like he
Speaker 2: was going to bed. Ten minutes later walked in. He's
Speaker 2: like having a work on some stuff and he crushed
Speaker 2: for an hour, just and he was in like gray
Speaker 2: warm ups in a collared shirt that I think had
Speaker 2: spaghetti stains on it, and he just did an hour.
Speaker 2: And I remember leaving with my friend, I think it
Speaker 2: was Brian, and I'm like, and this was fifteen years ago,
Speaker 2: and I remember saying, Dude, that guy is the most
Speaker 2: underrated comedian in the country like everything he's on. I laugh,
Speaker 2: and he hadn't quite hit yet, like he'd been on
Speaker 2: a shit but it didn't work. Now he's obviously done
Speaker 2: these Broadway shows that are fricking hysterical. He's always been
Speaker 2: Seinfeld's best buddy. But I saw Colin Quinn fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2: New Yorkers knew him, New Yorkers understood how great he was,
Speaker 2: but like a lot of people, you know, Utah didn't.
Speaker 2: Now everybody like pays attention knows he's absolutely brilliant. And
Speaker 2: then I saw in speaking of comedy, my wife got
Speaker 2: me tickets in the front row John Mulaney at the
Speaker 2: United Center in Chicago on the rehab tour.
Speaker 3: Helly, I was not in the front row, but I
Speaker 3: was there.
Speaker 2: That's the best hour of comedy I've ever because it
Speaker 2: was so raw and so personal. And I told Anne,
Speaker 2: I said, that wasn't comedy, that was an hour of therapy.
Speaker 2: We just we were in an hour of therapy, an
Speaker 2: hour fifteen And the fact that these comedians Sebastian, who
Speaker 2: I'm going to in Chicago, I think in November ninth,
Speaker 2: eighth or ninth or something like that. He's good, you know,
Speaker 2: I've always said this about comedians and maybe I think
Speaker 2: this about you and I. In our art business, we
Speaker 2: don't get a third take, Actors get twenty takes. They
Speaker 2: don't even write their own material. Sebastian Mulaney, Seinfeld, Colin Quinn.
Speaker 2: They write it, they perform it one take. I think
Speaker 2: comedians people just do not understand how lucky we are
Speaker 2: to have people that can stand in front of ten
Speaker 2: thousand people. I would be terrified.
Speaker 3: They're brilliant, brilliant.
Speaker 1: It's it's the most impressive art form to me, and
Speaker 1: it's the purest because this is not like an original
Speaker 1: observation by me.
Speaker 3: I think it was Seinfeld who I first heard say it.
Speaker 1: They are judged every eight seconds because that's about set
Speaker 1: up the punchline on average, somewhere around there, and they've
Speaker 1: got to be getting a laugh.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Some people will tell a longer, more drawn out story,
Speaker 1: and it can't They might not literally be eight seconds,
Speaker 1: but we can be giving a take on you know,
Speaker 1: breakfast Ball or The Herd or whatever, and we think
Speaker 1: we're crushing it, and maybe we are and maybe we aren't,
Speaker 1: but we're not getting any feedback, so we can live
Speaker 1: with the delusion that we're crushing it. They I mean,
Speaker 1: Mulaney has definitely bombed. Yeah, you know, like Seinfeld has bombed,
Speaker 1: Quinn has bombed, Rock has bombed, like these and because
Speaker 1: they're they got to eat it sometimes to figure out
Speaker 1: what works and to get the new material. And they
Speaker 1: have that like feedback loop that we just don't get.
Speaker 1: Like Billy Joel knows when he performs piano, man, it's
Speaker 1: gonna crush, you know, Like Brad Pitt when he walks
Speaker 1: into a restaurant knows he's gonna get fond all over.
Speaker 3: These guys every time they go out they could eat it.
Speaker 1: And I just I think that it's so impressive to
Speaker 1: be able to create something from nothing. And the other
Speaker 1: thing is like we have games, like we are talking
Speaker 1: about actions of other things.
Speaker 3: These guys are.
Speaker 1: Creating and girls are creating their own material completely from experience,
Speaker 1: completely from thin air. And there's ten thousand people or
Speaker 1: forty people or whatever it is. We're basically sitting there
Speaker 1: with our arms cross being like make me laugh, funny man,
Speaker 1: and then they do.
Speaker 3: It's amazing. So I can talk about this.
Speaker 1: Davittel incredible, Neil Brennan incredible, there's so much good comedy
Speaker 1: right now.
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Speaker 2: You know, the hard job that has a committe feel
Speaker 2: to it and has instant reaction because of X or Twitter.
Speaker 2: Is being a football analyst because football is the most
Speaker 2: popular sport. You're judged every eight seconds, because that's about
Speaker 2: how long plays last. People aren't judging Joe Buck or
Speaker 2: Mike Tarico every eight seconds. They're following the play, but
Speaker 2: they are judging Chris Collinsworth and Tony Romo and Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: And it was thinking about this with Tom Brady. So
Speaker 2: let me just tell you how I see. One of
Speaker 2: the things that offends me about bitcoin n FT. Success
Speaker 2: is hard, and people who invest in bitcoin, I always
Speaker 2: think it's a shortcut. I've been in the stock market
Speaker 2: since eighty eight. I've been buying and selling real estate
Speaker 2: over twenty homes since eighty nine to ninety. I've had
Speaker 2: swings and misses. My career has been since nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 2: It's hard. We put in a lot of hours. Tom
Speaker 2: Brady's put in as many hours as I have or more.
Speaker 3: Being a quarterback.
Speaker 2: So when people are trying to sell me an NFT,
Speaker 2: it's like, Oh, you don't want to put the work in.
Speaker 2: You're going to be diluted into This is a this
Speaker 2: is get rich quick, and of course it's a paradise
Speaker 2: for grifters and NFTs all bullshit and ninety nine percent
Speaker 2: of them are all bankrupt. And I think bitcoin similarly,
Speaker 2: you can't buy a whopper at Burger King with it.
Speaker 2: I don't care if you have eight million bitcoin, you
Speaker 2: can't buy anything with it.
Speaker 3: Congrats. So and it kind of so.
Speaker 2: When people pitch me on it, it just feels like, Oh,
Speaker 2: you don't want to put the work in in life,
Speaker 2: You don't want to have to, like study stocks, because
Speaker 2: that's what Warren Buffett does all day long, and he's
Speaker 2: eighty eight study stocks allfing day. And so I'm kind
Speaker 2: of offended by the idea of bitcoin, Like it's a
Speaker 2: lottery ticket, I buy it, talk to a loser on
Speaker 2: a Reddit board.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: The economic future of America isn't going to be guided
Speaker 2: by a twenty six year old gamer in a one
Speaker 2: bedroom in Sheboygan. Like, you know what, Peter Warren Buffett like,
Speaker 2: this is it's hard, Jamie Diamond in New York.
Speaker 1: These guys, No, it's it's yeah, it's I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: it's it's very hard. And the I mean I remember
Speaker 1: being told about bitcoin when it was at twenty five
Speaker 1: hundred and I was like, I don't get it, and
Speaker 1: it went to sixty thousand, and I'm like, oh damn.
Speaker 1: I wish I would have taken the time to actually
Speaker 1: understand it, because I know some smart people that have
Speaker 1: definitely made a ton of money in crypto.
Speaker 3: I'm with you on the NFTs.
Speaker 1: Completely, but is it real money, what's the future of it,
Speaker 1: what's the end game of it? I have absolutely no idea,
Speaker 1: but that's an interesting thought on like the get rich
Speaker 1: quicks because it does it does seem like a cutting
Speaker 1: of a corner in some way, but clearly there are
Speaker 1: people who have made a gazillion dollars. I would take
Speaker 1: that corner cut if if I was an early adopter
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: So my point being as I move I segue into this,
Speaker 2: is that Tom Brady, because he's Tom Brady and signed
Speaker 2: for his zillion dollars, people are judging him and it's
Speaker 2: like time out. It took him from the time he
Speaker 2: started playing quarterback in high school to the time he
Speaker 2: got really good in the NFL. It was like nine
Speaker 2: year process. You're giving him three games. Bradshaw Terry Bradshaw
Speaker 2: started on games. Chris collins Worth did B level, C
Speaker 2: level games forever. We don't allow people. What we're doing
Speaker 2: in society is we're increasingly harsh immediately. It doesn't allow
Speaker 2: anything to bake. So what becomes more attractive is bitcoin
Speaker 2: and NFT and overnight sensations. But to do that you
Speaker 2: have to take a shortcut, and to be great, there
Speaker 2: are no shortcuts. Michael Jordan, Scotty Scheffler, Tiger Woods. They
Speaker 2: started at three six. So when Brady gets criticism. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you guys, understand it's gonna It took him nine years
Speaker 2: of high school, college and pro football practicing every day
Speaker 2: before you're like he And by the way, even when
Speaker 2: he was winning super Bowls the first several it was like, well,
Speaker 2: he's a system quarterback and nobody gave him credit. Mahomes
Speaker 2: is so brilliant you immediately gave him credit. But I
Speaker 2: find it's one of the things in society. It's like
Speaker 2: we are killing the bake and bake is great is
Speaker 2: how the great happens, and we're killing it. We young
Speaker 2: people try stuff, they fail, and we crush them for it,
Speaker 2: and it's like hide, just keep baking. Shit takes nine
Speaker 2: years to be great at anything.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think it's patience is very, very
Speaker 1: hard because we live in an instant gratification society and
Speaker 1: we can get anything at our fingertips. I think about
Speaker 1: this with my kids, like they will grow up in
Speaker 1: the world of Amazon Prime. They could be like, they
Speaker 1: see something at a friend's house, bring it up to us,
Speaker 1: and we have to be very disciplined to not like
Speaker 1: have it on their doorstep by the time we get home.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just you get this feedback on stuff
Speaker 1: so damn quickly. And on the analyst front, what you're
Speaker 1: saying is objectively true. But I don't have a great
Speaker 1: solve for it because I don't think Tom Brady was
Speaker 1: going to accept the job to be on the D
Speaker 1: team to do panther smalcons right.
Speaker 3: I don't think that was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And so because he's on the A team, and because
Speaker 1: he got the contract that was reported on, and because
Speaker 1: he's Tom Brady, we're gonna I mean, he's gonna call
Speaker 1: Super Bowls really quickly, and that's gonna be in front
Speaker 1: of one hundred and fifty million people, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: there's going to be stakes attached to it. But what
Speaker 1: I love about these players is they can handle it
Speaker 1: like they're They are fine being coached, they are fine
Speaker 1: being criticized, and they will work at it in order
Speaker 1: to get better. Because you've been around enough athletes in
Speaker 1: the business. They want to know. They want like, am
Speaker 1: I doing a good job at this? How can I
Speaker 1: be better at it? They're way less sensitive than US
Speaker 1: broadcast types. US broadcast types could be sensitive, have egos,
Speaker 1: don't love feedback, think that we know everything that we're doing.
Speaker 1: I've worked with so many athletes that are like, Hey,
Speaker 1: this isn't what I'm this is isn't what I.
Speaker 3: Know how to do. Teach me, tell me.
Speaker 1: So. If he takes it seriously, which I think he
Speaker 1: clearly is, I think he's been better Game three than
Speaker 1: he was Game one. I've already seen a bunch of progress.
Speaker 1: If he really does work at this for ten years,
Speaker 1: He's going to be excellent at it. There's no doubt
Speaker 1: about that. Danny Parkins, what a fast fifty minutes.
Speaker 3: Thanks buddy, oh anytime you know.
Speaker 1: I love this, and I mean especially when my wife
Speaker 1: and kids are in Chicago. I literally have nothing to do.
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