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Speaker 2: Ball in FS one. An interesting guy who's got a

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Speaker 2: lot of different thoughts and a lot of different things,

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Speaker 2: and so I'm going to try to bring him on

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Speaker 2: regular to hear on the volume. So obviously when I

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Speaker 2: bring you on, there's Chicago stories, and there's you have

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Speaker 2: real keen insight to Chicago. And it's interesting because I

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Speaker 2: think Caleb Williams is one of the most talented quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: I've ever seen in college. I think there's an lway

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Speaker 2: a little Andrew Luck. He's like Josh Allen, he's not

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Speaker 2: consistently accurate out of college. You have to work on

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Speaker 2: that with Josh Allen. Aaron Rodgers was very accurate in college.

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Speaker 2: Certain guys are that's not what he is.

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Speaker 1: He is.

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Speaker 2: You got a sandpaper him. And when I talk about

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Speaker 2: the Bears dysfunction, you and I get it, you especially.

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Speaker 3: We tend to.

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Speaker 2: Think of Detroit, Loserville in Cleveland. But because Chicago did

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Speaker 2: and it's a big city and everybody loves it, you

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Speaker 2: tend to think, oh, the Bears are well funded, the

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Speaker 2: facilities are this, that's the outside, but take the audience

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Speaker 2: to the mccaskey's the dysfunction of this organization since you've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they got an indoor practice facility with

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Speaker 1: Like John Fox, to his credit, did kind of bring

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Speaker 1: We're talking about here, so just in terms of the investment,

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Speaker 1: the practice facilities. I mean, the old thing on the

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Speaker 1: mccaskey's back with the eighty five Bears was that they

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Speaker 1: would throw around, you know, nickels like manhole covers, like

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Speaker 1: it is a historically cheap organization. They are owners that

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Speaker 1: inherited it, right, it's a charter heritage franchise.

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Speaker 3: But so their wealth is the Bears, right.

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Speaker 1: They're not an oil tycoon, they're not real estate magnets.

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Speaker 1: Their wealth is in this valuation of a football team

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Speaker 1: They're not the Walmart people.

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Speaker 3: And so it is.

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Speaker 1: It's a big family. It's a dysfunctional family. It's been

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Speaker 1: It's like, George, you've been doing this forever, Like either

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Speaker 1: like in the meetings hiring all these people. So there's

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Speaker 1: been there's countless examples of the historic dysfunction and the

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Speaker 1: cheapness with the Bears. I do think it's gotten a

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Speaker 3: They were just not prepared to do it.

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Speaker 1: And that is a huge bummer because he wanted to

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Speaker 3: So it holds them back in some ways. For sure.

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Speaker 1: when they got the number one draft pick with Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: Like if you don't get Harbaugh Ben Johnson, he leaves

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Speaker 3: So I thought keeping eber Fluse was a mistake and.

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Speaker 1: Where there What I'm afraid of right now is not

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. I think his talent is so undeniable that

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Speaker 1: to use your example, he's had a defensive head coach

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's it is what I mean. He had

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Speaker 1: Took him a couple of years, but the talent was

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Speaker 1: undeniable that he got there. So the Chargers have changed

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Speaker 1: He hasn't won big, but as a talent has overcome it.

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Speaker 1: So I think Caleb is going to be fine. What

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Speaker 1: I am worried about, though, is when it was John

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Speaker 1: the exact same thing with Justin Fields. He was there

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Speaker 1: So I'm not worried about the talent. I am absolutely

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Speaker 1: worried about the coaching around him. And the line is

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Speaker 1: But I think a lot of that is also Shane

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Speaker 1: Waldron because and I'm giving you a long answer, but

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Speaker 1: you wanted all of the context. Yeah, they were the

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Speaker 1: the four of the five offensive linemen are the exact same,

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Speaker 1: the tenth overall pick. All better run blockers than pass blockers,

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's no question the O line has significantly regressed.

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Speaker 2: And most of those guys were young, ascending players, right.

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Speaker 1: And so to me, I don't believe that these guys

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Speaker 1: you what it is, but I think Shane Waldron clearly

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Speaker 1: Gerald Everett out snapped Cole Kmet. That makes no sense.

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Speaker 3: That made no sense.

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Speaker 1: And they corrected it in week two and Week three

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Speaker 1: how do I know more about the personnel of the

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Speaker 1: a learning curve, but come on, man, you're a professional

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes we all know there's about six great

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what I was looking at.

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Speaker 2: Like Brock Curty is one of the cognitive guys in

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Speaker 2: So Brian Flora is Viking defensive coordinator, He's just better.

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Speaker 2: Shanahan is an offensive coordinator. I made Matt Schaub. You know,

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Speaker 2: Brian Hoyer had a winning record. I don't think people

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Speaker 2: think about this. It's like when you get in a plane,

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Speaker 2: is would the Bears have like Washington spent big money

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Speaker 2: on Kingsbury like the new owners. I mean, I know Sean,

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Speaker 2: they went after Sean Payton. Money was not an object

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Speaker 2: with Washington. Now it just so happens. The Denver owners

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Speaker 2: top dollar. I wonder about the Bears, is it like

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Speaker 2: you should I've had? I mean, it's I look at

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Speaker 2: it and I think to myself, Brian Flores he got fired.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he got a discount. But I always feel like

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Speaker 2: some organizations don't hire well.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I I it's undeniable, man, and first time coaches

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Speaker 1: not to minimize coaching. It's just the Packers can spend

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Speaker 1: bit more. And so I don't think they're gonna bench

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Speaker 1: him like thug Peterson was like, anything's on the table, Like,

433
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Speaker 1: I don't think it is, Like I I don't think

434
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Speaker 1: you're benching a two hundred and fifty million dollar quarterback,

435
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: but I do think that you need to be working

436
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: on footwork fundamentals and breaking him down a little bit.

437
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson in week one looked like he forgot how

438
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: to play football.

439
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: We charted it.

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00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: He had six passes that landed out of bounce, like

441
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: they're just like straight not catchable balls. And then that's

442
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: not including airmailing guys throwing it at their feet hurtling up.

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Speaker 1: So I think he's regressed. I mean, he's been a

444
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: little bit better since, but he's regressed terribly. Trevor Lawrence

445
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 1: has regressed terribly and Minshew, it's just funny you bring

446
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Speaker 1: him up. What I've always said about him is like

447
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna go down swinging, like he's a fun quarterback

448
00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: to watch, yes, oh, and like but like delude usional confidence,

449
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: like he will he believes he can make every throw.

450
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: It's like Mario Chalmers when he was on the heat

451
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: and he had teammates that were Lebron, Bosh and Wade,

452
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: and he was like why don't you ever drop up

453
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: the final play for me? And it's like it's like

454
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Speaker 1: I had a pretty big shot at Kansas in the

455
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: final four. It's like, yeah, buddy, but that's Dwayne Wade,

456
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like your Gardner Minshew, why

457
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: do you think you can make that throw? But like

458
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: one out of two or three times he can make it,

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Speaker 1: and so he does it. So he's a fun guy

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Speaker 1: to watch. But I will say too, man, it's hard.

461
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Speaker 1: Quarterback play in the NFL is very clearly hard. It's

462
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Speaker 1: hard to project, it's hard to pay, it's hard to

463
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Speaker 1: be consistent in and so that's also why. And this

464
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Speaker 1: isn't what you asked about, but I'm gonna say it anyway.

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Speaker 1: Everyone being surprised by Josh Allen it bothers me. He

466
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Speaker 1: is clearly the second best quarterback in football, and he

467
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: has been for a couple of years now. Yeah, yards, touchdowns, wins.

468
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: Since twenty twenty, he's second in wins, he's second in yards,

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Speaker 1: and he's first in touchdowns, all to the Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: You look at their numbers. Now, it's regular season.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes obviously has him in the postseason undeniable, but yards

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Speaker 1: touchdowns wins. He's two to two and one in terms

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Speaker 1: of ranks since twenty twenty. And he doesn't have Andy Reid,

474
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: he didn't have Tyreek Hill, he didn't have Travis Kelce.

475
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: He is a remarkable football player, and so be like,

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Speaker 1: I'm so surprised that Josh Allen is doing this this year.

477
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: Why because he lost Gabe Davis and Stefan Diggs, who

478
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Speaker 1: like wit the last seven games of last season.

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Speaker 3: Like it just we need to do a better job.

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Speaker 1: I think of, like, oh, you're not Mahomes, so we

481
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: can like pick you apart and criticize you. I'm not

482
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Speaker 1: saying no criticism is fair. Mahomes has thrown three terrible

483
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: interceptions this year for total, Like obviously anybody can be criticized,

484
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: but like, if you've got a problem with Josh Allen

485
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Speaker 1: at quarterback, then the only guy you're allowed to like

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Speaker 1: is Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: He's the only one.

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Speaker 1: It's a really hard position to be consistently great at well.

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Speaker 2: It's also people have never I've read every Phil Micholson

490
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: book and he doesn't have the discipline of Tiger mentally,

491
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: like like physically, he didn't have it in his prime.

492
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: If you take one person off the planet. Tiger Woods.

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Speaker 2: Phil Micholson has like eight more major wins. Like it's

494
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Speaker 2: there's some time. I mean, the Utah Jazz are like

495
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: considered kind of a dynasty. They've got two titles without

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Speaker 2: one player, Michael Jordan. Like we also, we don't appreciate

497
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: in life how these cacasional mediors change. Like Charles Bartley

498
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: never won a title again, go to the final against Jordan, Jesus,

499
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: Charles was insanely good. I mean, so they go back

500
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: to those you go back to those Suns teams. This

501
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: was before everybody took threes. Danny Google the games. They

502
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: were scoring one thirty four regularly with mid range jumpers.

503
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: They were in chanting. Barkley's team changed the league.

504
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: Like the CEO of Burger King does very well for himself.

505
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: The guy who runs Pepsi, he's great. He's got a

506
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: lot of houses. Like, yeah, it's not McDonald's and Coke,

507
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: but it's okay. It's it's okay to be second best

508
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: when you're Peyton manning square all time.

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Speaker 3: Now, Listen, I'm like one of.

510
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Speaker 1: The last people in the world who's willing to at

511
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Speaker 1: least entertain a Peyton Manning was better than Tom Brady argument,

512
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Speaker 1: but it's I think about Peyton is like, I've never

513
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Speaker 1: seen a quarterback control a game more than Peyton Manning did.

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Speaker 2: I think he literally changed the position.

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Speaker 1: Correct, And the other thing that I love about Peyton's

516
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: like legacy four super bowls with four coaches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he was the system.

518
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, four super bowls four different coaches, that's pretty crazy.

519
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: Peyton's lebron He is the system correct, Correct, Tom and

520
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: Montana were part and elevated a great system.

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00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah right, And you can't deny what they have in

522
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: the trophy chest and the winning and I'm not I'm

523
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: not going to argue against it, but singular dominance of

524
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: like this guy is the system and you win because

525
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: of this guy, no matter what else you got. Peyton

526
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Speaker 1: is in a class of his own in that regard.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like people are like, are you worried

528
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels is better than Caleb Williams. I'm like, I

529
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: guess a little, but like it's because it's all a

530
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: crap shoot and it's about situation and no one really knows.

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Speaker 1: I think Caleb is gonna be great and gonna be fine,

532
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: and I think he's gotten better week to week to week.

533
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Speaker 1: But I mean, what would JJ McCarthy be doing right

534
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: now if he was getting the Sam Darnold reps? Would

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Speaker 1: we be talking about him as an undefeated quarterback.

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Speaker 2: In the preseason? It looked amazing, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So like, who the hell knows? Right Bo Nicks?

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Speaker 1: One week, the guy can't throw the ball two yards

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00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: past the line of scrimmage. Last week he's slinging it

540
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: all over the field and signaling first down and like

541
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: playing with a bunch of swagger. I'm like in the

542
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: league is I can't believe that I gamble on it

543
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: every week.

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Speaker 3: It's impossible. It is impossible to predict.

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Speaker 2: By the way, do you let me just say this

546
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: for anybody that listening in our business, I love radio.

547
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: It's therapeutic. It's good for me. Television doesn't give me

548
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: the same high as radio does. But I like tape

549
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: TV because I have a really nice crew and a team,

550
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: and it's funny and it's it's basically I'm doing TV

551
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: radio simulcast. So it's a little of both. Do you

552
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: miss radio and the sort of the journey every day,

553
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: The therapeutic journey of it.

554
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question, there are just my life right now

555
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: is really weird.

556
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: Like I'm living in a hotel in Times Square and

557
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: trying to sell a house and trying to buy a

558
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: house or rent a house, and the parent from Afar

559
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: and be a husband from Afar. But then I'm also

560
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: like doing a bunch of cool things in New York.

561
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Speaker 1: So I've had like a lot of good weird stories

562
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: and adjusting to being on national TV. There's just a

563
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: lot of weird things that happened with being on TV.

564
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: But then it's like we're gonna talk about the cowboys

565
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs and the Ravens and the Bengals and

566
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: the Bears, Whereas in local radio, I could sell an

567
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: eight minute story about you know, Wardrobe at FS one,

568
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: and like, I think it would be really entertaining and good.

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Speaker 1: But there's no actual outlet for these types of stories.

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Speaker 3: So I miss it. I miss my guys.

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Speaker 1: I missed like the nitty gritty and the minutia of

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Speaker 1: being there for the Caleb story. So yeah, I of course, man,

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Speaker 1: it's radio is my first love. All I ever wanted

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Speaker 1: to do was afternoon Drive Chicago radio, and I did

575
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: it and I loved it, but it's not the same

576
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: now as it was back in the nineties and the

577
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Speaker 1: early in mid two thousands when I really fell in

578
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: love with it. And so, you know, I just I'm

579
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: an ambitious guy and this opportunity came along, and so

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Speaker 1: I'll always miss it.

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Speaker 3: But you know, this is this is the right thing

582
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Speaker 3: for me to do.

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Speaker 2: You know, people think big cities are all the same.

584
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Speaker 2: So I spent some time in London in the summer,

585
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: which is probably London's like Chicago, but bigger. It has

586
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Speaker 2: the parks, great architecture, terrific food. Believe it or not,

587
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: London's food scene has improved dramatically. There must be ten

588
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: Gordon Ramsey restaurants alone. And when I was in London

589
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Speaker 2: with my wife and my third or fourth time being there,

590
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Speaker 2: I told her, I said, I love Chicago, and I

591
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: think that's why I love London. People lament the weather

592
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: in Chicago, but the springs and falls are amazing. The

593
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: summers are killer. You're on a lake, and the truth

594
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: is wear a coat.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: London similarly, I'm not a heat guy, so I love

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00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: going to walk in Hyde Park. But you know it's interesting.

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00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: You think, oh, New York and Chicago. Danny's lived in

599
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Speaker 2: two big cities. They are the opposites to me, like

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00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: New York and Chicago could not be more. Do people

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Speaker 2: think La and New York are different? And they are,

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Speaker 2: but give the audience some sense. Do you sense a

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Speaker 2: difference between New York and Chicago? Not just tall buildings.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a sensibility. I think the river running

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Speaker 2: through Chicago changes it. The Midwest changes it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's definitely different. Listen, I'm biased. I love Chicago.

607
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Speaker 1: Chicago's home. I think Chicago's the greatest city in the world.

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00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, I went from you go from a garage

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Speaker 1: to a garage at work and then work in a

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00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: radio studio the winter. The winter's never bothered me. Yeah,

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00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: you know football is on in the winter. I'm gonna

612
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: be inside anyway. I think this is I think the

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Speaker 1: biggest difference is in Chicago we have alleys, so that

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Speaker 1: means so that means our trash isn't on the street. Yes,

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00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: and that means you can park in a reasonable manner.

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00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: In New York it's so condensed and no one has

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Speaker 1: an alley, so the trash is just on the sidewalk,

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00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: and there aren't really a lot of public parking garages,

619
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Speaker 1: so it's a lot of street parking.

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Speaker 3: So it's just it's super congested.

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Speaker 1: In Chicago, it's it's obviously there's a ton of traffic

622
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: on the highways. The traffic is brutal, but when you

623
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Speaker 1: get into the city, you can.

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Speaker 3: Kind of hide your car, you can kind of hide

625
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Speaker 3: your trash.

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Speaker 1: Like, so it's just it's it's clean and liveable and smooth,

627
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: and it feels like a big giant neighborhood. New York

628
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: is congested and dirtier and louder New York.

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Speaker 2: New York is Rome. Yes, Yes, New York is Rome,

630
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: which is the same thing. It's just dirty and congested,

631
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: and it's it's a lot. It's overwhelming, and there's they're

632
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: kind of making it up as they go at Chicago's.

633
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: Stacked on top of each other.

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00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: In Rome, you like, it's like, here's a Michelin restaurant,

635
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: here's a world class hotel, and then you know, two

636
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: hundred feet down is an ancient civilization, Like, oh wow,

637
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: that's crazy. They just kept building it on top of

638
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: each other and then and that's kind of.

639
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: How New York feels. But there are things about New York.

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Speaker 1: The bodega scene in New York is the greatest thing

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00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, like there was like New York

642
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: is so expensive, and it is. It is significantly more

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Speaker 1: expensive than Chicago. But you can walk came to a

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Speaker 1: place that looks like it should only be able to

645
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Speaker 1: sell you, like a bottle of water and cigarettes and

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Speaker 1: a stick of gum in the New York Post and

647
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: you can get like the greatest pastrami sandwich you've ever

648
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Speaker 1: had for nine dollars and it's the only meal you

649
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Speaker 1: need to eat all day. So New York and there's

650
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 1: a New York's awesome. And also if you find green

651
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: space in New York, it feels like it was an accident. Yeah,

652
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, green space and then

653
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: it's like the most peaceful, beautiful thing ever. So I've

654
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: gone to like Central Park multiple times and just chilled

655
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: out because it feels like it's a complete oasis amidst

656
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Speaker 1: all of the chaos.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Then I always had a feeling whenever when I was

659
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Speaker 2: in Connecticut. I didn't go to Boston ever. I went

660
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: to New York constantly, and I always said, there's an

661
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: energy in New York. That is, it's even much bigger

662
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Speaker 2: than Chicago, and Chicago's got energy.

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Speaker 1: It is a Rome.

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Speaker 3: It's Rome.

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Speaker 2: When you're in Rome, it is just going fast. I

666
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: mean I remember going to Rome with my wife and

667
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: you know, you do a few touristy things, but you know,

668
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: we got vespas and we just went through the city.

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Speaker 2: We hired these two guys to take us around and

670
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Speaker 2: it's like get ready, hold on, here we go and

671
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 2: we're flying through alleys and just the pace of Rome

672
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Speaker 2: in New York it's exhilarating. And I can remember. I

673
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: can remember there was a night in New York.

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Speaker 3: It was the fall.

675
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Speaker 2: I took my wife in there and we went and

676
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Speaker 2: it was just a gorgeous fall. It was just it

677
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: was like sixty three degrees. It got crisp. But at

678
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: night we went to a great dinner. It was a

679
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Speaker 2: sexy night. And I remember telling my wife we were

680
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 2: in I think we were in meat packing district or something.

681
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: It was a lot of the hipsters and the good

682
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: looking people. And I'm like, I understand why people in

683
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: New York think the United States ends at the Hudson River.

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00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: Like Elliott, you get why They're like, Utah, is that

685
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Speaker 2: in the country, Utah?

686
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Speaker 3: Like I get why they think that.

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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, Like New York elitism is earned, Like it's

688
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: earned you. Anything can happen here at any time. So

689
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: this is crazy New York story. And I'm out here

690
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: alone and I'm trying to like make the best of it.

691
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: My wife and kids are going to be coming out here,

692
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to move out to the Burbs in

693
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Speaker 1: a house and so like. But I'm in the city

694
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: right now. And so I love stand up comedy. I'm

695
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: obsessed with it. I watch documentaries about it, listen to

696
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: podcasts about it, go to any show. I've been to

697
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: the Comedy Seller a few times already since I've been

698
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: out here. I had been a dozen times before. But

699
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: a guy I know, Chicago comedian named Pat McGann. He

700
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: opens for Sebastian Maniscalco, and Sebastian just did five straight

701
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Speaker 1: nights at Madison Square Garden, most consecutive sellouts by a

702
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Speaker 1: comedian at MSG. I'd never been to anything other than

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Speaker 1: a college basketball game at the Garden. So I hit

704
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Speaker 1: up Pat and I was like, hey, man, can I

705
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: come to the show, And he was like, yeah, absolutely,

706
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: thrilled that you're in New York.

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00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: Let's do it. I go.

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00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: He gives me a little backstage pass. We're hanging out

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Speaker 1: in his green room before I'm just alone. I'm pumped,

710
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, you picked a good night to come.

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00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, man, of course, Madison Square Guard and

712
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: it's kicking off this tour. It's amazing. He's like, no, no, no, no,

713
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: there's three openers tonight. Normally it's two hats podcast co

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Speaker 1: host me and Seinfeld and Sebastian had asked Jerry Seinfeld

715
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Speaker 1: to open for him at MSG and Seinfeld comes out.

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Speaker 3: The crowd doesn't know.

717
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: Nineteen thousand people go ballistic, and Seinfeld famously hates arenas.

718
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 3: He really only likes to do theaters and like comedy clubs.

719
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: And he gets out there and he's like, this is

720
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: so great, and he's doing like the Seinfeld books.

721
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: How cool is this. He's like, I'm a kid.

722
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: From the Bronx and I've never played Madison Square Garden before.

723
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: And the place goes ballistic, and then he does twenty

724
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: minutes of like Staten Island humor. You know you're in

725
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: the city, but you're on the island and then you're

726
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: in the Hamptons like he's just like he's just like

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Speaker 1: being Seinfeld, but all about New York in front of

728
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: New Yorkers that people are going insane. And I leave

729
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: the garden at ten thirty and it's buzzing and it

730
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: was like the Knicks just hit a walk off.

731
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: And I'm like, only here.

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00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: The only place that guy will do an arena is

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00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: MSG and he'd never done it before and it was

734
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: a complete surprise and it was just it was a

735
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: Wednesday night, it was it was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of comedy, I was so fortunate and that that

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00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: my favorite New York comedy story is I walked into

738
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: Carolines and Colin Quinn in it like looked like he

739
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: was going to bed. Ten minutes later walked in. He's

740
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: like having a work on some stuff and he crushed

741
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: for an hour, just and he was in like gray

742
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 2: warm ups in a collared shirt that I think had

743
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 2: spaghetti stains on it, and he just did an hour.

744
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: And I remember leaving with my friend, I think it

745
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: was Brian, and I'm like, and this was fifteen years ago,

746
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 2: and I remember saying, Dude, that guy is the most

747
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: underrated comedian in the country like everything he's on. I laugh,

748
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: and he hadn't quite hit yet, like he'd been on

749
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: a shit but it didn't work. Now he's obviously done

750
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: these Broadway shows that are fricking hysterical. He's always been

751
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: Seinfeld's best buddy. But I saw Colin Quinn fifteen years ago.

752
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: New Yorkers knew him, New Yorkers understood how great he was,

753
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: but like a lot of people, you know, Utah didn't.

754
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: Now everybody like pays attention knows he's absolutely brilliant. And

755
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 2: then I saw in speaking of comedy, my wife got

756
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: me tickets in the front row John Mulaney at the

757
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: United Center in Chicago on the rehab tour.

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00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: Helly, I was not in the front row, but I

759
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: was there.

760
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 2: That's the best hour of comedy I've ever because it

761
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: was so raw and so personal. And I told Anne,

762
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: I said, that wasn't comedy, that was an hour of therapy.

763
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: We just we were in an hour of therapy, an

764
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Speaker 2: hour fifteen And the fact that these comedians Sebastian, who

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Speaker 2: I'm going to in Chicago, I think in November ninth,

766
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: eighth or ninth or something like that. He's good, you know,

767
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: I've always said this about comedians and maybe I think

768
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: this about you and I. In our art business, we

769
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: don't get a third take, Actors get twenty takes. They

770
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: don't even write their own material. Sebastian Mulaney, Seinfeld, Colin Quinn.

771
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 2: They write it, they perform it one take. I think

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00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: comedians people just do not understand how lucky we are

773
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: to have people that can stand in front of ten

774
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 2: thousand people. I would be terrified.

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Speaker 3: They're brilliant, brilliant.

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00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: It's it's the most impressive art form to me, and

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00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: it's the purest because this is not like an original

778
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: observation by me.

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Speaker 3: I think it was Seinfeld who I first heard say it.

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00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: They are judged every eight seconds because that's about set

781
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: up the punchline on average, somewhere around there, and they've

782
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: got to be getting a laugh.

783
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Some people will tell a longer, more drawn out story,

785
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: and it can't They might not literally be eight seconds,

786
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: but we can be giving a take on you know,

787
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: breakfast Ball or The Herd or whatever, and we think

788
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: we're crushing it, and maybe we are and maybe we aren't,

789
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: but we're not getting any feedback, so we can live

790
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: with the delusion that we're crushing it. They I mean,

791
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: Mulaney has definitely bombed. Yeah, you know, like Seinfeld has bombed,

792
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: Quinn has bombed, Rock has bombed, like these and because

793
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: they're they got to eat it sometimes to figure out

794
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: what works and to get the new material. And they

795
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: have that like feedback loop that we just don't get.

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00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: Like Billy Joel knows when he performs piano, man, it's

797
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: gonna crush, you know, Like Brad Pitt when he walks

798
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,080
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Speaker 3: These guys every time they go out they could eat it.

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Speaker 1: And I just I think that it's so impressive to

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00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,880
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00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,320
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Speaker 3: It's amazing. So I can talk about this.

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Speaker 2: It's hard. We put in a lot of hours. Tom

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Speaker 2: Brady's put in as many hours as I have or more.

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Speaker 3: Being a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So when people are trying to sell me an NFT,

862
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Speaker 2: it's like, Oh, you don't want to put the work in.

863
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Speaker 2: You're going to be diluted into This is a this

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Speaker 2: is get rich quick, and of course it's a paradise

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Speaker 2: for grifters and NFTs all bullshit and ninety nine percent

866
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Speaker 2: of them are all bankrupt. And I think bitcoin similarly,

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Speaker 2: you can't buy a whopper at Burger King with it.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if you have eight million bitcoin, you

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Speaker 2: can't buy anything with it.

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Speaker 3: Congrats. So and it kind of so.

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Speaker 2: When people pitch me on it, it just feels like, Oh,

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Speaker 2: you don't want to put the work in in life,

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Speaker 2: You don't want to have to, like study stocks, because

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Speaker 2: that's what Warren Buffett does all day long, and he's

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Speaker 2: eighty eight study stocks allfing day. And so I'm kind

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Speaker 2: of offended by the idea of bitcoin, Like it's a

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Speaker 2: lottery ticket, I buy it, talk to a loser on

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Speaker 2: a Reddit board.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: The economic future of America isn't going to be guided

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Speaker 2: by a twenty six year old gamer in a one

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Speaker 2: bedroom in Sheboygan. Like, you know what, Peter Warren Buffett like,

883
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Speaker 2: this is it's hard, Jamie Diamond in New York.

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Speaker 1: These guys, No, it's it's yeah, it's I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: it's it's very hard. And the I mean I remember

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Speaker 1: being told about bitcoin when it was at twenty five

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Speaker 1: hundred and I was like, I don't get it, and

888
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Speaker 1: it went to sixty thousand, and I'm like, oh damn.

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Speaker 1: I wish I would have taken the time to actually

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Speaker 1: understand it, because I know some smart people that have

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Speaker 1: definitely made a ton of money in crypto.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you on the NFTs.

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Speaker 1: Completely, but is it real money, what's the future of it,

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Speaker 1: what's the end game of it? I have absolutely no idea,

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Speaker 1: but that's an interesting thought on like the get rich

896
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Speaker 1: quicks because it does it does seem like a cutting

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Speaker 1: of a corner in some way, but clearly there are

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Speaker 1: people who have made a gazillion dollars. I would take

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Speaker 1: that corner cut if if I was an early adopter

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 2: So my point being as I move I segue into this,

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Speaker 2: is that Tom Brady, because he's Tom Brady and signed

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Speaker 2: for his zillion dollars, people are judging him and it's

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Speaker 2: like time out. It took him from the time he

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Speaker 2: started playing quarterback in high school to the time he

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Speaker 2: got really good in the NFL. It was like nine

907
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Speaker 2: year process. You're giving him three games. Bradshaw Terry Bradshaw

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Speaker 2: started on games. Chris collins Worth did B level, C

909
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Speaker 2: level games forever. We don't allow people. What we're doing

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Speaker 2: in society is we're increasingly harsh immediately. It doesn't allow

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Speaker 2: anything to bake. So what becomes more attractive is bitcoin

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Speaker 2: and NFT and overnight sensations. But to do that you

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Speaker 2: have to take a shortcut, and to be great, there

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Speaker 2: are no shortcuts. Michael Jordan, Scotty Scheffler, Tiger Woods. They

915
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Speaker 2: started at three six. So when Brady gets criticism. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: you guys, understand it's gonna It took him nine years

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Speaker 2: of high school, college and pro football practicing every day

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Speaker 2: before you're like he And by the way, even when

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Speaker 2: he was winning super Bowls the first several it was like, well,

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Speaker 2: he's a system quarterback and nobody gave him credit. Mahomes

921
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: is so brilliant you immediately gave him credit. But I

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Speaker 2: find it's one of the things in society. It's like

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Speaker 2: we are killing the bake and bake is great is

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Speaker 2: how the great happens, and we're killing it. We young

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Speaker 2: people try stuff, they fail, and we crush them for it,

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Speaker 2: and it's like hide, just keep baking. Shit takes nine

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Speaker 2: years to be great at anything.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think it's patience is very, very

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Speaker 1: hard because we live in an instant gratification society and

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Speaker 1: we can get anything at our fingertips. I think about

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Speaker 1: this with my kids, like they will grow up in

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Speaker 1: the world of Amazon Prime. They could be like, they

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Speaker 1: see something at a friend's house, bring it up to us,

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Speaker 1: and we have to be very disciplined to not like

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Speaker 1: have it on their doorstep by the time we get home.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just you get this feedback on stuff

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Speaker 1: so damn quickly. And on the analyst front, what you're

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Speaker 1: saying is objectively true. But I don't have a great

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Speaker 1: solve for it because I don't think Tom Brady was

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Speaker 1: going to accept the job to be on the D

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Speaker 1: team to do panther smalcons right.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that was gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: And so because he's on the A team, and because

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Speaker 1: he got the contract that was reported on, and because

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Speaker 1: he's Tom Brady, we're gonna I mean, he's gonna call

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls really quickly, and that's gonna be in front

947
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Speaker 1: of one hundred and fifty million people, and it's gonna

948
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Speaker 1: there's going to be stakes attached to it. But what

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Speaker 1: I love about these players is they can handle it

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Speaker 1: like they're They are fine being coached, they are fine

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Speaker 1: being criticized, and they will work at it in order

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Speaker 1: to get better. Because you've been around enough athletes in

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Speaker 1: the business. They want to know. They want like, am

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Speaker 1: I doing a good job at this? How can I

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Speaker 1: be better at it? They're way less sensitive than US

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Speaker 1: broadcast types. US broadcast types could be sensitive, have egos,

957
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Speaker 1: don't love feedback, think that we know everything that we're doing.

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Speaker 1: I've worked with so many athletes that are like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: this isn't what I'm this is isn't what I.

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Speaker 3: Know how to do. Teach me, tell me.

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Speaker 1: So. If he takes it seriously, which I think he

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Speaker 1: clearly is, I think he's been better Game three than

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Speaker 1: he was Game one. I've already seen a bunch of progress.

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Speaker 1: If he really does work at this for ten years,

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Speaker 1: He's going to be excellent at it. There's no doubt

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Speaker 1: about that. Danny Parkins, what a fast fifty minutes.

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Speaker 3: Thanks buddy, oh anytime you know.

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Speaker 1: I love this, and I mean especially when my wife

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Speaker 1: and kids are in Chicago. I literally have nothing to do.

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Speaker 2: The volume. Thanks so much for listening. If you've enjoyed

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