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Speaker 2: Bonus hour of the drive here, our final hour on

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Speaker 2: this Thursday, our final hour of full wall to wall

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Speaker 2: nine to five. Dolly Parton Combine coverage working nine five

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Speaker 2: days as tomorrow will be nine to two. It's a Friday. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got a long drink man, We got a long

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Speaker 2: drive home. And everything is I mean even right now

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Speaker 3: It's quiet at the still people will continue. It's gotten quieter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it will be busy here in the mornings because

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Speaker 2: that's when the podium. Yeah, because those are for those

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Speaker 2: who are unfamiliar. Those happen at like from eight am.

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Speaker 2: To like ten thirty. I think in the morning, I

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Speaker 2: don't know the time starts at eight am, and then

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Speaker 2: there's the first session and then I think the second

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Speaker 2: session type thing, and but yeah, that's all wrapped up

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Speaker 2: before lunchtime. And to give these guys the afternoon to

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Speaker 3: Little bit of exactly all the stuff they're doing.

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Speaker 2: That and meetings and any any other you know things.

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Speaker 2: Positions tomorrow I have to get to if you give

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Speaker 2: me one second, Yeah, fine, tomorrow. Let's see. I got

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Speaker 2: it right here at the on the field tomorrow will

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Speaker 2: be defensive backs and tight ends. And on the podium

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Speaker 2: tomorrow will be running backs, quarterbacks and wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: Which means they'll be on the field the next day kerr.

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Speaker 2: Which means they will be on the field Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Yes, which means they're doing medical as we speak. It's

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Speaker 3: a three day endeavor basically for all these guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I so, you know, I do the morning

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Speaker 2: hour from a from nine to ten with Persuda before

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Speaker 2: before you guys slide in. In the last couple of days,

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Speaker 2: I've just poked over there to see the badness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. But when I came in and I

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Speaker 3: was a little early too, And I hadn't been over

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Speaker 3: there yet un till this morning.

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Speaker 2: And and Caleb Downs obviously today is not surprising anybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure had had the biggest uh you know today

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Speaker 2: was defensive backs and tight ends at the podium at

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Speaker 2: Caleb Downs had you know. But I mean there's a

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Speaker 2: couple other guys. Jemal McCoy had a big you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he would be the top, but the top guy.

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Speaker 2: I have a feeling tomorrow, Matt, there'll be quite a

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Speaker 2: crowd around Fernanda Mendoze's podium.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, love will get attention, But I would think

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Speaker 3: do you think Mendoza probably is the highest attention of everybody. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I mean's quarterback. He's my first pick.

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Speaker 2: So my mind, I meane, even if you're the Steelers or.

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Speaker 3: Eagles or whatever, and know you're not gonna take them

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Speaker 3: exactly right, He's still interested in what he's doing. He's

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Speaker 3: also an interesting interview.

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Speaker 2: That's what I mean. Yeah, he's not one of these

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Speaker 2: He's talkative, he's a little quirky.

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Speaker 3: He's definitely quirky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people are gonna want to hear what he has

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Speaker 2: to say and try and get their questions in and

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Speaker 2: all that. I think so I was I was thinking

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Speaker 2: when I was walking around over there earlier, I was like,

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Speaker 2: big group for Caleb Downs. I was like, Wow, I

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Speaker 2: bet you, it's going to be massive for Mendoza. I think.

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Speaker 2: I think it was. My second combine was when Kyler

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Speaker 2: Murray was drafted first overall.

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Speaker 3: Ig and the height his Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I will never forget Matt his podium of it you

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Speaker 2: with a mob you couldn't They couldn't put anybody at

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Speaker 2: so many people at really to paint the picture for everybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And the big networks are all over there too,

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Speaker 3: Like if you're watching f on Network or ESPN, folks there.

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Speaker 2: In that that's where they have their sets built over.

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Speaker 3: And they took a little more of our space this year,

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Speaker 2: What a bunch of jerks, you know, the Steelers' video

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Speaker 2: crews taking our space, the NFL's taking our space, getting crowded.

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Speaker 2: We gonna fight for right or so to party. We're

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Speaker 2: so popular here, I tell you what. But I remember.

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Speaker 3: Whatever shrimp by the way, shrimp guy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't think about that. Listen, Matt Taylor still

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Speaker 2: a hail Mary at him. Kyler Murray, that his his

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Speaker 2: his podium was absolutely bonkers, and I think part of

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Speaker 2: it was at the time, there was still some whispers.

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Speaker 2: Is he interested in playing baseball? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that some of that people wanted to

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Speaker 2: talk to him about. You know, just the number one

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Speaker 2: overall quarterback always has a million people, but that Kyler

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Speaker 3: Hundred poor not He's always been asked to questioned a

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Speaker 3: he'd be the first guy in, last guy out type

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Speaker 3: some those type of questions. But no, you're right. The

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Speaker 3: baseball thing was humongous, wasn't he like the seventh pick

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Speaker 2: He was early, he was pretty high. Yeah, Matt, I

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Speaker 3: Tick her to be if you're the A's that she's

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Speaker 3: my first he was the seventh overall.

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Speaker 2: Baseball is way different.

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Speaker 3: I know, it's way different, but right, that's like the

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Speaker 3: Bo Jackson thing, like the Raid or the Bucks used

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Speaker 3: the first overall pick in the draft and he never

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Speaker 3: played for them.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: But I think taking Mendoza right now, he never plays for.

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Speaker 2: It, I think that would happen a little bit more

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Speaker 2: often than then you would. You would think, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, you know our our producer back at the ranch, Nathan,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure is like, yes, guys, that happens all the

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Speaker 3: Your first round pick never plays for you. Yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: because I mean a lot a lot of avenues they

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Speaker 2: And a lot of times they're eighteen years old, you know.

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Speaker 3: Is that happened in hockey too, I mean you could

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Speaker 2: Yes, but that's how it works, and and so I

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Speaker 2: after you get drafted, I believe they have your rights

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Speaker 3: And they're getting paid in college, just like football too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the scale of the the nil is

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Speaker 3: One overall pick, because they got money.

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Speaker 2: Because they got money, and doesn't that just make the

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Speaker 2: world go right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's important, Matt.

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Speaker 2: I did want to get to a couple of these

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Speaker 2: guys that we've spent a lot of time in the

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Speaker 2: past month discussing and their their measurement numbers. Keldric Falk,

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Speaker 2: Schumer Stewart last year, it's got to translate to the field.

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Speaker 2: It looks like a Bengal to me, but you can

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Speaker 2: seven eighths thunder six almost sixty six, two seventy six, seventy.

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Speaker 3: Six is big for a defensive end, For a defensive.

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Speaker 2: End edge guy, uh nine and seven eighths, hands, thirty

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Speaker 3: Good lord wow, Yeah, he's built in a lab type.

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Speaker 2: Yes he is. Wow, Kadi McDonald, real.

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Speaker 3: Quick, I've I mean they bring this up last couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks. So the average edge player in today's NFL

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that doesn't shock me.

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Speaker 3: No, like the guy's max played against. I bet we're

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Speaker 3: fifteen pounds heavier on average, like there used to be,

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Speaker 3: like Reggie White. Those guys don't exist anymore. But still

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Speaker 3: we were talking about some of these dudes that were

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Speaker 3: Derek Henry coming right at you with her card, you know,

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Speaker 2: Kadi McDonald, Ohio State defensive tackle six to two and

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Speaker 2: one eighth three twenty six nine in three quarters, hands

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Speaker 3: I see no problem with any of those. For a nose,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's not great arm length. But this is

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Speaker 3: times when you're like in such tight quarters with you

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Speaker 3: it's still a longer distance the full crumb, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, Like the levers are longer that Sometimes

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Speaker 3: nose tackle like I don't think Acampton had long arms.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Well four had long.

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Speaker 2: Arms, you know, but they had the leverage and the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody's blowing them back either, just if they get

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Speaker 2: And and Lee Hunter, who we just talked about him

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Speaker 3: Wingspan, great, no red flags at all.

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Speaker 2: He he he intrigues me a lot. He's he really

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Speaker 2: does intrigue me. I always.

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Speaker 3: I'm my second favorite d tackle behind Banks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Steelers might he might be getting there for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm man with some of the measurements for today, I

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Speaker 2: think i'm I'm I'm out on Peter Woods, especially for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Especially as I don't know what he does here.

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Speaker 2: Black and gold glasses, Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Like a guy like that might be a really good

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Speaker 3: option on third and eight, as an interior pass rusher,

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Speaker 3: But what's he do for my first and ten? You

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? I don't think he works Matt.

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Speaker 2: In a few minutes, we are going to hear a

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Speaker 2: conversation that myself and Rob King had with former Steelers

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Speaker 2: defensive back Brian Bryant McFadden. Yeah, of course, two time

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion. He does media and podcasts and shows

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Speaker 2: for CBS Sports Now, so he's well spoken, knows his stuff.

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Speaker 2: And one of the things that we talked about with

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Speaker 2: the season that he had.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And what it was was they put this happened

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Speaker 3: And Matt now maybe tomorrow too will give you some

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Speaker 4: Man, It's been great.

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Speaker 6: You know, quick disclosure about disclaimer about me and the Combine.

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Speaker 4: This is my first time being here since I was a.

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Speaker 4: Ah, it's a lot.

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Speaker 6: It's a lot to process, first and foremost, you're overly

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Speaker 6: I'm like, well, we'll do it again, do it all

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00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 6: over again. So I started having conversations with other guys

440
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 6: that play for other teams, older guys, and they were

441
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,199
Speaker 6: telling me, Man, you need to be thankful because you

442
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 6: have guys that played fifteen, sixteen plus years or whatever

443
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 6: the case may be, never sniff a super Bowl.

444
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 4: But you were able to do so in your rookie year.

445
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 4: So that's the reality.

446
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 5: So I'd like to ask you about this process for

447
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 5: you and then winding up being drafted by this jitus

448
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 5: because you know, people don't I don't think a lot

449
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 5: of fans don't stop to realize that these players as

450
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,439
Speaker 5: a player here, It's not like people showing up being like,

451
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 5: who's this Brian McFadden guy. You know they've been scouting

452
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 5: you since you're really since your freshman year, right, they've

453
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 5: had information on you. Now tells the story that Bill

454
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 5: Cower came to his way in on his pro day.

455
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 5: That was the only time he saw him. He looked

456
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 5: up Bill Kwer was gone and he was shocked when

457
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 5: he got drafted by the Steelers. What was your interaction

458
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 5: like with the Steelers and did you know they were

459
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 5: you were on their radar, we were running in the

460
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 5: same scouts that kind of thing.

461
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 6: My interaction with the Steelers, I didn't have any interaction

462
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 6: that I recall during the Super Senior bow right, but

463
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 6: I was hearing my name was being brought up in

464
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 6: the building from my former Florida State team mate in

465
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,479
Speaker 6: Chris Hope, who was a part of the Steelers at

466
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 6: the time, and I guess they were asking him questions

467
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 6: about me because they knew we played together. But then

468
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 6: when I came to Indy I had a formal interview

469
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 6: with the Pittsburgh Steelers, and I remember.

470
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 4: Like it was yesterday.

471
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,679
Speaker 6: I walked into the hotel room and the first person

472
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 6: I saw and I recognized was me and Joe Green, like,

473
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 6: oh freak.

474
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 4: This is Joe Green.

475
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 6: Wow, And I'm like, why is he Yeah, you know,

476
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And I didn't know his

477
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 6: status with the team at the time. And then of

478
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 6: course Bill Cower, Kevin Kober, and it was just it

479
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 6: was so many people in the room, like it was

480
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 6: like wow. And then after that it was like nothing

481
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 6: from Pittsburgh. I didn't have a phone call, I didn't

482
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 6: have a visit to Pittsburgh. I didn't have nothing. So

483
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 6: everything kind of went silent. So I kind of felt

484
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 6: like I might not be on the radar. But oddly enough,

485
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 6: the team that you rarely hear from is a team

486
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 6: that usually drafts you. If you listen to so many guys,

487
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 6: like you said, with Max starts, you saw Kyward at

488
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 6: waigh In and he left. You don't even know if

489
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 6: he actually watched Max performance. But guess what, Pittsburgh drafts him.

490
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 6: So I don't know if that was like a Pittsburgh thing.

491
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 6: It kind of ever, so you were not really interested,

492
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 6: but we are right.

493
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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, I think we'd be remiss. We of course,

494
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: you were pretty fortunate. One two Super Bowls with the Steelers,

495
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: one with Bill Cower, one with Mike Tomlin. Just your thoughts,

496
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 2: nineteen years end of an era for coach T I

497
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: didn't think I'd ever see the day. I just thought

498
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin would be the head coach of the Steelers

499
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: for the rest of my life. Everything eventually comes to

500
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 2: an end, right, But nineteen years and I just feel

501
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 2: like everybody who played for Mike Tomlin has such a

502
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: level of respect for him, obviously as a football coach,

503
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: but as a man and a human being.

504
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, to your point, it felt like he would continue.

505
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 6: It felt like for sure at least get a twentieth season.

506
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 6: I mean, it's surprised everyone when that news broke, it

507
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 6: was like, Wow, what are you serious?

508
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: And that was the first start for most of us,

509
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 4: Like what.

510
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: I had to check the accounts on Twitter like seven

511
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 2: times to make sure they weren't fake parody, Like these

512
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: are the real people reporting?

513
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 4: Are you serious?

514
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 6: And now, granted the season didn't end like we all

515
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 6: wanted it to end, but it was still a successful season.

516
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 6: You want a division playoff game, whatever the case may be.

517
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 6: But yes, it's a real moment. And I asked Omar

518
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 6: this was the first question I asked him when I

519
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 6: talked with him on Tuesday. How weird is it for

520
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 6: you to be here without Mike Tomlin?

521
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. It's like it's different.

522
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 6: Nineteen years of doing the same thing, you know, building

523
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 6: that were poor and coming to these type of events

524
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 6: with him, you know, being involved to some degree, you

525
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 6: know what I mean.

526
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 4: So it's different. It's gonna take some time to get

527
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 4: used to it.

528
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 6: I think every day you're kind of getting closer to

529
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 6: understanding this is the new norm. But to your point, yeah,

530
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 6: it was like, okay, nah, not yet. He's not walking

531
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 6: away yet. But he had to do what was best

532
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 6: for him, and he checked off the boxes, won a championship,

533
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 6: you know, live up to the building for a story franchise,

534
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 6: you know, and created a Hall of Fame coaching career

535
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 6: for him in Pittsburgh.

536
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 5: You know, there are trends that happened in the NFL.

537
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 5: You know, everybody wants the big box safety now that

538
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 5: can move around Kyle Hamilton, even Warriors all that stuff.

539
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 5: But one of the things that Mike Tomlins said a

540
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 5: couple of years ago, and I thought it was really interesting.

541
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 2: So he said that more.

542
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 5: Than at any time in the NFL, cornerbacks coming out

543
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 5: of college are more ready. And his explanation for that

544
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 5: was that kids are and that was always a position

545
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 5: draft the corner. Hey, we'll see it's starting in a

546
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 5: couple of years. It's gonna be. It just takes it's

547
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 5: way too involved. But he said, all these kids now

548
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 5: doing seven on seven drills all summer long. And then

549
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 5: you couple that with all the spread offenses and quarterbacks

550
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 5: throwing the ball fifty times a game in college, so

551
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 5: as a corner you're getting fifty coverage reps a game.

552
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: Do you think that's the.

553
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 5: Case that it's easier, a little easier for corners to

554
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 5: come out now and make more of an immediate impact.

555
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say that is easier, but I think they're

556
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 6: more equoped to handle that type of work load because

557
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 6: of the passing strategies that they face in college football.

558
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 6: You know, up tempo, you're seeing more passes than runs,

559
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 6: so you know you have to be able to cover

560
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 6: and through repetition you get more comfortable, you feel more

561
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 6: better in your skill set. Now, the cons to that is,

562
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 6: most cornerbacks come into the National Football League, you know, not.

563
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 4: Consistent and tackling exactly, you know what I mean.

564
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 6: So the pro is they kind of they're ready for

565
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 6: the volume of passes, the volume of reps they're seeing

566
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 6: from these wide receivers, the intensity in which it happens

567
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 6: for four quarters. But then the con is, you don't

568
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 6: really tackle a lot because a lot of these kids.

569
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 4: Are not tackling a lot in practice.

570
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 6: So now when you get to the National Football League

571
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 6: and you might play against the offense that can adjust

572
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 6: to whatever you do well or not well. Now they

573
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 6: make corners tackle, and what happens when you don't, you know,

574
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 6: you lose ball games. When you look at offenses, now,

575
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 6: offenses like San Francisco, you know, the rams with Sean McVeigh,

576
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 6: when that wide receiver come down to crack that end

577
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 6: man or either that safety, and now they force the

578
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 6: corner to be in space to make that tackle one

579
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 6: on one with whoever the running back is. If you

580
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 6: can't do it, you're gonna see the same thing over

581
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 6: and over and over and over. Or if you know,

582
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 6: an offense say, you know what, this guy's this guy,

583
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 6: this guy is not even a willing participant in the

584
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 6: running game. He just doesn't really want to tackle. So

585
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 6: guess what we're gonna do? A quick stop route, get

586
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 6: out to a wide receiver, wide receiver. He really don't

587
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 6: want to tackle. You give him, make them give him

588
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 6: a move, get some yet.

589
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.

590
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 6: So those are those are the good and the bad

591
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 6: with this new regiment in college football at the seven

592
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 6: h seven landscape. It is good, you know, because of

593
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 6: the repetition in terms of passes, but you kind of

594
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 6: forget about the main element.

595
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 2: Tackling, you know.

596
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 5: I just I wanted to follow up on that because

597
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 5: tun Jokin used to talk about lading games for Jerome

598
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 5: Bettis where he said, the guy's taking a convenient angle

599
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 5: to miss. I'm sorry, coach, I just did they didn't

600
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 5: want to hit him after a while. You know, as

601
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 5: you look around the NFL now and you obviously you

602
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 5: were a willing tackler, but it's tough if you're giving

603
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 5: up pounds, you know, if you're giving up thirty five

604
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 5: pounds and you got to make fifteen tackles after a

605
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 5: while that wears on you, are there guys out there,

606
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 5: whether it's Kenneth Walker or or Derrick Henry or or

607
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 5: somebody else, or maybe it's a maybe he was a

608
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 5: quicker guy, a guy you wouldn't wouldn't necessarily relish having

609
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 5: to tackle man fifteen times.

610
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 6: Again, well, hopefully as a corner you shouldn't be getting

611
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 6: making fifteen right the d line and the linebacker should

612
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 6: definitely feel some type of way that's the case.

613
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 4: But for me, I go back to when I played

614
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 4: Fred Taylor.

615
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 6: That was the person that you like, Oh, I don't

616
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 6: want to be the first one running up on him

617
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 6: because he had power to run you over, he had

618
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 6: moves to make you miss, he had the speed to

619
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 6: run around you, and you didn't know exactly which one

620
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 6: you are going to get based on his attitude.

621
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 4: So for us it was like okay, but we knew

622
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: what we had to do.

623
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 6: And the thing about our defense when I was there,

624
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 6: it was weird because when I got drafted to Pittsburgh,

625
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 6: one of the first questions that was asked of me

626
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 6: was will he tackle? It wasn't about will he cover?

627
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 6: That's that's what they wanted to know. Bro, Will you tackle.

628
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 4: Will you thud, like, what about cover football? Get that.

629
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 6: We know about covering, But for us here, it's about

630
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 6: tackling because when you're a great tackling defense, you will

631
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 6: win ball games. Prime example, Seattle, the praise we gave

632
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 6: their defense, we talked about how violent there was, but

633
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 6: they rarely miss tackles.

634
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 4: Look at the secondary.

635
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 6: You talked about guys that played like they were mad,

636
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 6: like every day they just had something that pissed them off.

637
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: They flew around.

638
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 6: When you watched Seattle play, it felt like they had

639
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 6: fifteen guys on the field instead of eleven.

640
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 4: They swarm. The DB's played like big guys.

641
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 6: Devon Witherspoon, to your point, might be one eighty eight,

642
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 6: but he would run into you.

643
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter how big you are. It's a mentality

644
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: that way too. Facts those guys like Petri and those guys.

645
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 6: You saw them in person Wildcard game like, So that's

646
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 6: the thing. When you tackle and you play with that

647
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 6: type of violences. As fans, when your team play against them,

648
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 6: you were like, oh, shoot, you better protect yourself. So

649
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 6: think about what those offensive feet when they played against Houston,

650
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 6: when they played against Seattle. Yeah, because think about what

651
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 6: you thought of when we knew the playoff seating who

652
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 6: we were playing Houston.

653
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 4: First thing you said was their defense.

654
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right.

655
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: Can we win this game three to two?

656
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

657
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: Right?

658
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 6: Because we knew their defense is gonna be stout and

659
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 6: they're gonna hit you in the mouth mouth, And that's

660
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 6: how we played. We want to impose our will on

661
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 6: you physically for four quarters. We want to beat you up,

662
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 6: kick you whatever, like you cannot play football soft, especially

663
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 6: the defensive side. And I know I might be smaller

664
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 6: than you, but it's my job to running to you

665
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 6: anyway for four quarters because when I do that, I

666
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 6: know the cavalry is coming. That's how you earn respect.

667
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 6: Like yo, man, I got a little man just running

668
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 6: in this big man. We know you're not supposed to

669
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 6: win that battle, but just the willingness to do it

670
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 6: that sets them morale for the entire team. So for

671
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 6: Seattle story year, but their defense is what embodied their physical,

672
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 6: violent nature that we saw. And then it transitioned to

673
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 6: the officer side with Kenneth Walker running through people.

674
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 4: We'll freaking chess.

675
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: He's a hard runner. That guy's a hard runner. Man.

676
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: He runs hard.

677
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 6: But tell me this what hard running back runs against

678
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 6: opposing defenses.

679
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: That's a that's a part of a soft defense.

680
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 3: Right, That's right.

681
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: And by the way, you're pointing with Marshawn Lynch with

682
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: the legion of Boom.

683
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

684
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you're tough running back nine times at a team,

685
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 6: you got a tough defense, right.

686
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 5: And by the way, I think I like the way

687
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 5: you flip that too, because you know, you always talk

688
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 5: a lot of us talk in terms of who do

689
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 5: you not want to tackle? Well, who do you not

690
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 5: want to run against? Because as a running back, you're

691
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 5: feeling fifteen eighteen hits too. You might be out there

692
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 5: doing a little more dancing than normal as opposed to

693
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 5: lowering your head as.

694
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 6: Well about it, you think about it, Think about the

695
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 6: wide receivers when you watching tape and you see these

696
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 6: guys trying to take your head off. Now you're gonna

697
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 6: be a bit hesitant when you run across.

698
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 4: The middle, absolutely right, you know you know what I mean.

699
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 6: So it plays in every area man, and and football

700
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 6: is a violet sport. I understand the safety precautions and

701
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 6: things like that, but football is a violet sport. That's

702
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 6: why we love it because we love seeing people colliding

703
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 6: to each other, But when you do it because you're

704
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 6: forced to do it, you won't get the same impact

705
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 6: when you do it because you want to do it right.

706
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 4: Good point.

707
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: Last thing. This has been a lot of fun. But

708
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: last thing, we got to ask you about Joey Porter Junior.

709
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 2: I mean, he, particularly the back half of the season,

710
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 2: really felt like it was all starting to come together

711
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: for him. Man. I think he's primed to be one

712
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: of the best cornerbacks in national football.

713
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 4: It's time to get paid like one. Let's keep it real.

714
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 6: I saw a stat that had Joey Porter Junior and

715
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 6: Christian Gonzalez next next to each other, and Gonzo is

716
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 6: a hell of a cornerback all of us would agree.

717
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 6: Have a great season. Great in the Super Bowl, even

718
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 6: though they lost, he played well.

719
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: He was one of the best players on the field.

720
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 4: You realized Joey.

721
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 6: Porter had better numbers than Gonzo in terms of coverage, percentage, yards,

722
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 6: giving up.

723
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 4: The whole nine.

724
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 6: But he doesn't get talked to about light Gonzo for

725
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 6: whatever reason, I don't know.

726
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: And he's got the penalties out of it, lack of interceptions.

727
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 6: I think he had more than Gonzo and stat check

728
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 6: me on this. I think he had more than Gonzo.

729
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 6: I think he touched more passes, more footballs than Gonzo

730
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 6: did in twenty twenty five, because that's the first thing

731
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 6: most people say, Well, he didn't.

732
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: Turn the ball over, he didn't touch the enough footballs.

733
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 6: Loo, I'm waiting on I'm waiting on that stat too,

734
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 6: by the way, because I think he had more interceptions.

735
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 6: He definitely had more PBUs if you were to combine

736
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 6: both stats.

737
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

738
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 5: Well, we were having a discussion just breaking down this

739
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 5: year this roster. Okay, Joey Porter's your one. You're you're

740
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 5: you know, where are you happy with your roster? Joey

741
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 5: Porter's my top corner. I'm happy with that. I'll figure

742
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 5: out two and three and all that. I'm happy with

743
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 5: him as my one, which is one of the hardest

744
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 5: things to get in football.

745
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

746
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 5: Off, you know quarterback, we know left tackle, but boy,

747
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 5: can you get that you know the edge rusher?

748
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: Can you have that number one corner?

749
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 4: So valuable?

750
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's shown the ability to be that number

751
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 6: one guy. And when you're in a division where you've

752
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 6: seen Jamar Chase and t Higgins twice, you better make

753
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 6: sure you got somebody.

754
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 4: Who can cover.

755
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

756
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 6: With their extensions, they're not going anywhere anytime soon. So

757
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 6: I really hope he gets paid. And you know, great

758
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 6: point about cleaning up his style of play, because he

759
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 6: was known to be a bit handsy. He got better

760
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 6: this season. He was a competitor, he competed man, and

761
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 6: he played the game the right way. And he's deserving

762
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 6: of seeing that new deal. And if you're pissperg, he

763
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 6: is your CB one.

764
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 5: Can I ask you one more question? Yeah, I want

765
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 5: to ask you about a rule. So it's a rule

766
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 5: that I'm not in favor of. It is the defenseless

767
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 5: receiver rule for defensive backs. I'm all in favor of

768
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 5: not targeting the head, right, So I understand all those rules.

769
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 5: Let's try to keep players as safe as possible. Right,

770
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 5: But when we oh, what has he gots? He got

771
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 5: the numbers right there, We got the numbers right here.

772
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 5: One more interception for PZ Junior. Okay, four more PBUs,

773
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 5: one more sack and then as you mentioned, all the

774
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 5: coverage numbers of less touchdowns yards allowed.

775
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I'm telling you he yeah, he's right.

776
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, But Joey is not getting the same thing.

777
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, well what do we talking about? He'll start to

778
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 5: he better. Yeah, he'll start to all for player safety,

779
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 5: all for not targeting the head. I think that the

780
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 5: defensives player thing you talk about, the toughness of the game,

781
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 5: does that reduce a little bit of that toughness of

782
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 5: a receiver knows he can go over the middle and

783
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 5: not get walloped because the quarterback put him in a

784
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 5: bad position with a.

785
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: Throw up high.

786
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 5: My feeling on it is this, if you don't want

787
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 5: to have a defensive receiver, then don't throw them the

788
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 5: ball there? Does it take any of that toughness that

789
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 5: that you know, like a heinz Ward, the part of

790
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 5: his value was he was so tough he was going

791
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 5: to go over the middle fearlessly and make a catch

792
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 5: that somebody else might do this on Well, you don't

793
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 5: have to do this anymore because they can't.

794
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: Hit you out.

795
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know what great about toughness, But I

796
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 6: think when receivers know they have that great area where

797
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 6: they're protected, you don't have to really be tough to

798
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 6: go out and extend yourself because you know you're not

799
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 6: supposed to get hit. So now it kind of makes

800
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 6: defenders a bit hesitant, you know what I mean, because

801
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 6: there's a great area where you don't want to give.

802
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 6: With that penalty and with that personal file comes they fine,

803
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 6: and those fifteen yards could actually change the momentum momentum

804
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 6: of a game dramatically. You know, we've seen penal these

805
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 6: flip games where teams lose because of the penalty and

806
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 6: also too for us, it's a thin line and being

807
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 6: hesitant or being playing fast to create separation from the

808
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 6: man and the ball, Like when now's at Florida State.

809
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 6: My defensive coordinators to tell us all the time, it's

810
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 6: your job to separate the man from the ball right

811
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 6: when he's trying to catch it at the point of attack.

812
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 6: So if I see you come across the middle, and

813
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 6: I know if I hit you as soon as the

814
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 6: ball get there, there's a potential chance of a flag

815
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 6: because you were defenseless. But if I wait and let

816
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 6: you catch the ball, I cannot create an incompletion.

817
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, I can't. That's the first down. You're

818
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 4: in extended downs now.

819
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 6: But if I can't get you simultaneously when you get there,

820
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 6: I create an incompletion. Now it could be fourth down,

821
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 6: you're pluting the football that could be the deciding factor

822
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 6: in us winning and losing the ball game.

823
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

824
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 5: Like I said, I'm all for player safety. That's that's

825
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 5: one of the violent parts of the game that I

826
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 5: think you just have to live with this part of

827
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 5: the game. Yeah, but it's been legislated out and they

828
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 5: want to keep guys healthy.

829
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: And I understand that.

830
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: And I'm for guys.

831
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 4: I understand that as well.

832
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 6: But it's hard for us as defenders because you can't

833
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 6: sit here, try to be hesitant when you six' three

834
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 6: running four threes and running by the way.

835
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 5: Game now that that's put you in a bad, position no.

836
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 5: Question now you've got to slow down and you might

837
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 5: get run, over no.

838
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 4: Question and that's the.

839
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 6: Thing so when you do get a chance in a

840
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 6: fair situation and put that that helmet on, them do it.

841
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 4: Right play Like, seattle.

842
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: Play, Right thank you appreciate.

843
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: It a lot of.

844
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: FUN i just really enjoyed. It play Like. Seattle.

845
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: Play, yeah it's a good way to end.

846
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: It let's do.

847
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: It, Yeah, yeah.

848
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: You think That seattle defense probably reminds him a little

849
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: bit of some of the units he played.

850
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 3: With oh, Yeah pittsburgh no doubt the, attitude and you're right.

851
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: RIGHT i mean the thing like if You i've listened

852
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: to a lot of podcasts people, know and we've been

853
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: Mentioned Greg kosel a few times and a couple of

854
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: these analysts And Nate, tice Who i'm hoping to get on.

855
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: Tomorrow that look at the whole league and when you

856
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: watch That seattle, defense it feels like they often, say

857
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 3: looks like there's twelve guys out.

858
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: There he, SAID i don't know if you heard that

859
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 2: PART i darlier he, said they play like there's fifteen

860
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: guys on the. Defense, yeah field at all, times.

861
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: And they rotate like sixteen or seventeen guys in and

862
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: they all are eager to chomp it at the. Bit you.

863
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: Know great.

864
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: Stuff we're going to take our last break. Here we

865
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 2: will put a bow on the day's proceedings when we.

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00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: Return Wes, Shooler Matt. Williamson It's The Drive Steelers Nation

867
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: radio on The Steelers Audio.

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Speaker 1: Network this is live cover each of the twenty twenty

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00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: SIX nfl combine On Steelers Nation, radio a part of

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Speaker 1: The Steelers Audio.

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00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: Network it is our final segment here of The Bonus

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00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 2: hour on The drive on This, Thursday Our blood will

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00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: be final time in this hour here On Radio. Rows

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Speaker 2: we will still have programming, tomorrow but just nine to,

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00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: two a little shortened edition so we can hopefully all

876
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 2: get home before to too late On friday. Night, matt

877
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: good week so. Far it has been a good. Week

878
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: we've had some great, Guests we've had a lot of.

879
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: Fun but it, is it's. Funny it. Is it starts

880
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: so fat and we've mentioned this a bunch of, times

881
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: but it starts so fast and then it kind of quickly.

882
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: Abruptly if you.

883
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: Look, around there's all many people in this room right, Now.

884
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: So it's, funny you. Know our Producer nathan back at the.

885
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: RANCH a big shout out To justin And nathan who

886
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: have been doing a lot of work on the other

887
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: side of things for us back In pittsburgh at our

888
00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: studios earlier this. Afternoon they were both, like the connect isn't,

889
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 2: terrible but it's, like you, know there's times it drops

890
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 2: for a quick second or you, know gets a little

891
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: gets a little. Wonky and we were in that break

892
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: And nathan was, like the past, hour the connection has been,

893
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: perfect And i'm, like, well that's because there's only like

894
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: a dozen people left in here using the internet right.

895
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: NOW tv will tell. YOU i think there was a

896
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 3: year where they went out last.

897
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: Year it was last.

898
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 3: Year, yeah, Yeah so these teams paid a fair amount

899
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 3: of money for this internet and, age.

900
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: Yes they, do and people people were not.

901
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: Happy, no like the place went. Bunkers so as.

902
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: You, know like it's a group effort you in pursue

903
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: to do some. Stuff. Dale dale knew how to use

904
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: one of, these you, know these machines that we use.

905
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: HERE i actually touched it for the first time today

906
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: and THEN i was, like, oh don't touch. It give

907
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 3: give them the other.

908
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: Headset my buddies in our group chat must have been

909
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: listening because they were cracking up about. That. Okay they

910
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: were Like williamson, saying what AM i? DOING i don't

911
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: touch this. Thing this isn't my. JOB i.

912
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 3: Forget who we got is, like, Yes.

913
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: Matt producing the. Show what's the matter with? You like

914
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: all my boys are texting, Me.

915
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: And Finally i'm, like, oh there's like here's. This he

916
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: was just headset and threw it at them all. RIGHT

917
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: i think it was Tra he's, LIKE i can't hear

918
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: you Guys, like.

919
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: Oh, no but last last last, year the internet went

920
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: out for like an, hour and so it goes out

921
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: And i'm scrammed BECAUSE i think it's a problem With,

922
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: YEAH i think it's So i'm, like we go to,

923
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: break we do the whole reset. Reboots still can't get,

924
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: Online still can't get. Online i'm like stressing. OUT i

925
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 2: THINK i think it Was brian producing for us back

926
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: at the ranch, then AND i like call him And i'm, like,

927
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: DUDE i don't know what's going. On i'm, like give

928
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: me a. Minute i'm gonna. Try AND i tried to

929
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: run it through my laptop and do it wirelessly instead

930
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: of the hardline. Connection it still wasn't, working and like

931
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: THEN i actually like look up and breathe for a,

932
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: second and everyone around me is doing the same, thing

933
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: And i'm, Like i'm, LIKE i Call brian back And i'm, like,

934
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 2: dude the entire AND i go over to the. Desk i'm,

935
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 2: like The internet is all, down like The ethernet, chords

936
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: The Wi fi it's all. Down and he's, like we'll

937
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: just have to replay a couple of segments. Time the same.

938
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: Thing pretty much every year we've had something like. That,

939
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: now last year was a little more. Extreme usually it's

940
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 2: like two that's A husually it's like a two minute.

941
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: Hiccup last year it was like an. Hour but it's

942
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: usually from over. Us, YEAH i mean because so many

943
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: people close to one hundred radio broadcast tables. Alone is

944
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 2: that where we're. AT i think it's eighty some. TABLES

945
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: i think at one point it was thirty two.

946
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: ONE i, think, Yes but like and there was like

947
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: the yahoos and those guys to pffs and those guys.

948
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: You also, HAVE i mean think about you've got Full

949
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: suffer Broadcasts network there Or serious AND espn AND. Cbs

950
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: and there's.

951
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: Also like podcasts over there That i've never heard. Of

952
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: i'm sure there's successful. Podcasts they wouldn't be able to afford,

953
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 3: this but still like just a podcast. Table there's one

954
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: For Matthew, berry WHO i, knew, well was there a?

955
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 3: Placard There's Matthew berry for a. TABLE i haven't seen him.

956
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: Yet a lot of fun, today thanks to all of our.

957
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: Guests thanks For nathan And justin for producing back at

958
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: The RANCH tv here doing the video work with us

959
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: On Radio. Row last day of coverage tomorrow nine to.

960
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: Two you'll Have matt AND i with a special edition

961
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 2: of The drive With Rob king from noon until two

962
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: to bring us on. Home that'll do it for. Today

963
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: take care, everybody we'll talk to you. Tomorrow as, always

964
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 2: you know where to find. Us it's on your twenty

965
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: four to seven home of The black And Gold Steelers

966
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: Nation radio on The Steelers Audio. Network