Speaker 1: Check it on Man Now Down Now, Wednesday, November twenty seven,
Speaker 1: Beating the BOS podcast Mega Pod one Day Early Skill Alexander.
Speaker 1: It's Thanksgiving, so we decided to get it out before
Speaker 1: the holiday because there's three games tomorrow. Obviously the largest
Speaker 1: or the biggest travel day of the year today, So
Speaker 1: everybody coming in going throughout the land to get to
Speaker 1: their families for Thanksgiving. Not us. No, alright, we're working hard,
Speaker 1: and by we I mean me, Mike Palm and Todd
Speaker 1: wishing it. Mikey, how you doing, man, We're doing great.
Speaker 1: I'm on a show, uh where the other two hosts
Speaker 1: are thankful to be alive, so I have to be
Speaker 1: extra thankful. Yes, thank you very much. I know I
Speaker 1: am after what happened last week, so yes, I certainly am.
Speaker 1: Mike Palm, the conciliary to Derik Stevens, the vice president
Speaker 1: operations over there at Circus Sports, and of course the
Speaker 1: third party from Shoe Times, Smash docuseries Action. It's Todd
Speaker 1: WISHNEV was happening to Dot Hey, how you doing man?
Speaker 1: You good? I'm good? All right, Well, this has been
Speaker 1: a fascinating conversation. Mike. Let's start with the Circus Sports
Speaker 1: Quarterly Update who won the quarterly prize well, and there
Speaker 1: was another fascinating finish Joe Um. The key set up
Speaker 1: to the whole weekend was the Packers not covering on
Speaker 1: Sunday night as I think eight out of the top
Speaker 1: ten or some number eight out of the top twelve
Speaker 1: at the Packers, So that opened it up. So it
Speaker 1: came down to four entries, two of them in the
Speaker 1: house at sixteen and four, UM Booty Blockers who is
Speaker 1: actually the current leader of the contest at forty three
Speaker 1: and a half points, and Miss Kan who was a
Speaker 1: group of two gentlemen from Michigan and both and their
Speaker 1: sons who hung out at Long Bar. Now they had
Speaker 1: an interesting strategy. They played all five of the ten
Speaker 1: AM Pacific games. They said, we're gonna go bay or
Speaker 1: go home. If we hit them all, we're gonna start partying.
Speaker 1: If we don't do well, we'll forget about it. If
Speaker 1: we go three and two or four and one, then
Speaker 1: we'll have to study the results to uh. They were
Speaker 1: a half game out going in study the results to
Speaker 1: see about hedging. Then there were two entries at thirteen
Speaker 1: five excuse me, at fifteen UM three and one fifteen
Speaker 1: and a half points, but we're live to the Rams
Speaker 1: plus three and a half. And that was Al Cabong,
Speaker 1: who's James Selina's friend of East and your friend UH.
Speaker 1: Prolific contest winner both Westgate two thousand and fifteen, he
Speaker 1: one it all two thousand and sixteen, he finished third.
Speaker 1: He won the inaugural Visa in College Basketball Handicapping March
Speaker 1: Madness Tournament as well. And then and then another entry
Speaker 1: d s I. So it came down to this, either
Speaker 1: if if the Rams covered, then James Salinas and the
Speaker 1: other entry we're gonna split UH and get basically seventy
Speaker 1: two each. Or if Baltimore covered, then Booty Blockers and
Speaker 1: Michikan we're gonna win with sixteen points against seventy two
Speaker 1: thousand each. Three of the four entries hedged with us UM.
Speaker 1: James Hedge thirty thousand, UH at thirty thousand on Baltimore
Speaker 1: three and a half. Because the line stayed the same,
Speaker 1: he got thirty thousand that minus three and a half.
Speaker 1: Even you were you were the only guys who had
Speaker 1: even at that point in the day. The other entry,
Speaker 1: the other instry that was in his spot. I think
Speaker 1: at thirty seven thousand, almost halfing it halfing to win,
Speaker 1: and and then the Michigan group who eventually won heads
Speaker 1: thirteen thousand on Baltimore since if the Rams covered, they
Speaker 1: were going to get knocked out. So it was interesting
Speaker 1: the way it played out. Obviously it was a route.
Speaker 1: And uh, the Booty Blockers and Michikan split up on
Speaker 1: our first shared pool as we had had individual winners
Speaker 1: in quarter one and two, so it went seventeen seventeen
Speaker 1: and a half, and then quarter three the winners were
Speaker 1: at sixteen sixteen and four wins it and you said,
Speaker 1: and you said, Booty Blockers is now leading the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Boody Blockers, who wins quarter three has a two game
Speaker 1: lead over m J Tade forty three and a half
Speaker 1: to forty one and a half. CB Elite who won
Speaker 1: the first quarter is five points back at thirty eight
Speaker 1: and a half and Concrete and he's in thirteen tied
Speaker 1: fort and Concrete. Mike, who won the second quarter is
Speaker 1: tied for twenty nine at thirty seven, six and a
Speaker 1: half points back. Wow. Wow. That of course for the
Speaker 1: million dollar prize ten prizes cash and this is a
Speaker 1: five week quarterly because it's the seventeen week season, so
Speaker 1: this one is a five week and it begins Todd,
Speaker 1: We're all oh and oh again, we can all try
Speaker 1: to win a hundred forty three thousand dollars, okay, Todd.
Speaker 1: Todd is like, you know, when Arsenio Hall had Eddie
Speaker 1: Murphy on the show. Arsenio Hall and Eddie Burphy were
Speaker 1: great friends, and Eddie Murphy never used to come on
Speaker 1: the Arsenio Hall Late night show, and finally one day
Speaker 1: he decided to, and he decided he was going to
Speaker 1: be the worst guest ever, just to mess with our
Speaker 1: cideo and so our Cidio would ask him these long,
Speaker 1: very thoughtful questions and Eddie would go, yes, that's Todd today. Yes, Gil.
Speaker 1: I like to share a story at the beginning, please,
Speaker 1: Over the course of having a bit role on Vista,
Speaker 1: to begin with two and a half years ago, and
Speaker 1: then more of a role the last year being on
Speaker 1: My Guys and then other shows Mitch and Paul and
Speaker 1: your show. I've had literally hundreds, maybe even a thousand
Speaker 1: people come downtown to meet me, meet me and Derek
Speaker 1: at even though they're staying on the strip or somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Last week for the first time, I had two people
Speaker 1: come down because they listened to the megapod. Uh to
Speaker 1: two gentlemen. They live in other areas now, but one
Speaker 1: graduated from Iowa State and one from northern Iowa. And
Speaker 1: so I feel like I finally arrived. Now now now
Speaker 1: you have reached the big time. Yes, the megapod which
Speaker 1: is in its that was a great story. Mike, can
Speaker 1: can you give us another forty five seconds on on
Speaker 1: boring this? Todd? It was a story because it has
Speaker 1: to do with the Mega pond. Now I know how
Speaker 1: Dr Bob fell a ninth year of the megapod. Todd,
Speaker 1: don't knock it. The mega pod is you know what
Speaker 1: everyone listens to? Of course it is. UM let us
Speaker 1: begin then with any Thursday listen. We usually we've talked
Speaker 1: with Thursday night thoughts, and we're doing this on a
Speaker 1: Thursday today. UM. We will incorporate these into our best bets.
Speaker 1: But there are three Thanksgiving games, of course, Chicago at
Speaker 1: Detroit in the morning. Chicago now four point favorites across
Speaker 1: the board. As we learn that perhaps it's not Jeff
Speaker 1: Driscoll starting at quarterback for Detroit, it might be David
Speaker 1: Blow out of Purdue. Jeff Driscoll has a hamstring issue.
Speaker 1: He's day to day, so we'll see about that. Then
Speaker 1: as Dallas touchdown favorites at home against Buffalo and New
Speaker 1: Orleans touchdown meaning seven point favorites on the road against
Speaker 1: Atlanta in the nightcap, are any of these games? First
Speaker 1: of all? Do you have any thoughts on any of
Speaker 1: these three games? And then are any of these into
Speaker 1: your best bets? Mikey, it's gonna take the under in
Speaker 1: the Bears. I know he loves that about it. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you y'all, this is gonna be a run range
Speaker 1: away train on the Bears. I wish I could have
Speaker 1: got one and a half like Mitch Moss took early
Speaker 1: in the week. Um, now, are you know we put
Speaker 1: the circuit contest lines out at ten am today, twenty
Speaker 1: four hours ahead of time because of the Thanksgiving games,
Speaker 1: and we got this at four and a half. Four
Speaker 1: and a half, yeah, four and a half. So what
Speaker 1: does that tell you where you think the money is
Speaker 1: gonna right there? Shading it already? Yes, already? Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to lay uh lay even
Speaker 1: three and a half right now? With with the m
Speaker 1: V p Mitch on the road. Um, but David Blow
Speaker 1: was nothing special at at Purdue, Todd, I am tempted
Speaker 1: to play under thirty eight here. I don't know I
Speaker 1: even though the line. What is it? Tell me what
Speaker 1: the line is before I start talking. Okay, don't Mike,
Speaker 1: don't tip your hands, just ask for it first. Well,
Speaker 1: he know I was gonna play this under any how,
Speaker 1: What is it now? Thirty two? Todd? Why don't you
Speaker 1: do what we are? Please do? Mike says thirty eight?
Speaker 1: I say no, it's thirty seven? Gil? What is it? Whoa?
Speaker 1: And we have another winner? All right? What's the total
Speaker 1: on the Dallas Buffalo game? First, here's my first best bet,
Speaker 1: Gil under forty seven. I'm gonna take a page out
Speaker 1: of the Todd wish Ne Debbie Downer playbook and go
Speaker 1: Dallas under. As he's explained for many weeks why Dallas
Speaker 1: is a great under team because they want that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand, but you still say it in every week. Uh.
Speaker 1: What what I want to say here, though, is this
Speaker 1: Bill's defense is ferocious, and I actually think this is
Speaker 1: my best bet under forty seven. But I like an
Speaker 1: opportunity here if Buffalo takes the lead early and you
Speaker 1: can still get them plus money in game. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hammer the bills in this game. I think Dallas is
Speaker 1: right with their mentality to lose this game at home
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, and I believe in this Buffalo deepense. I
Speaker 1: also think Jake Allen can hurt you more with his
Speaker 1: feet than his arm. And the why is this number
Speaker 1: going up? I don't know how it open, but I'll
Speaker 1: go under. Josh Allen can also beat you with his
Speaker 1: feet in his arm, You said, Jake Allen, Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: that's all right, getting logan Allen. Um, it's an interesting
Speaker 1: that's all right. It's an interesting game. I mean one,
Speaker 1: you know, I said on the radio this morning, Dallas
Speaker 1: is six and five. They're one game up in the
Speaker 1: NFC East. If they're as good as they're supposed to be,
Speaker 1: right with all that talent, shouldn't they beat Buffalo handily? Like?
Speaker 1: Isn't this again because Buffalo hasn't beaten anybody Dallas, by
Speaker 1: the way, I hadn't beatn all that many great teams either,
Speaker 1: But buffalo schedule has really been patsy to this point.
Speaker 1: So there's that, and then there's this thing where you
Speaker 1: see if you turn on ESPN, all you see this
Speaker 1: morning is is this Jason Garrett's last game? You know,
Speaker 1: is he get if he if they if they this up,
Speaker 1: that it used up on ESPN. But if they mess
Speaker 1: this up, you know, is this the end of Jason Garrett?
Speaker 1: Based on what Jerry Jones had to say after that
Speaker 1: Patriots game where the Cowboys, by the way, completely got
Speaker 1: hosed on those phantom tripping penalties down the stretch, didn't
Speaker 1: give them a chance to perhaps win that game. Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott was nineteen of thirty three for two twelve against
Speaker 1: the Pats in that terrible weather, no touchdowns, one pick,
Speaker 1: It was not sacked at all. They were two of
Speaker 1: thirteen on third downs, but I mean the weather had
Speaker 1: a lot to do with that one. But Amori Cooper
Speaker 1: was held without a catch in that game. Patriots held
Speaker 1: the Cowboys without a touchdown for the first time this season.
Speaker 1: They basically took away Cooper and Jason Witten, as Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick is want to do, taken away your your biggest targets,
Speaker 1: and they stacked the box on first and second down.
Speaker 1: And then Jerry Jones after the game was like, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: that's all great, but special teams is coaching, and he
Speaker 1: was taking his coaches to task. Um Buffalo best record
Speaker 1: through eleven games since nineteen nineties six, they are at
Speaker 1: eight and three are the UH are the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: This is a big test for them again, seven point dogs.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was fifteen of twenty five and they're twenty
Speaker 1: three rout of Denver for two touchdowns, one pick, sacked one,
Speaker 1: Stevin Singletary twenty one for one oh six, and Frank
Speaker 1: Gore became the third leading rusher in NFL history. They
Speaker 1: limited the Broncos, did the Bills. They limited of the
Speaker 1: Broncos to one hundred and thirty four yards and nine
Speaker 1: first downs while forcing eight punts. So under Dallas, Buffalo,
Speaker 1: that is your play. That's your first best bet as well, Todd,
Speaker 1: any thoughts on either the first two early games. I
Speaker 1: I lean with mikey on that. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: use it as one of my picks, but I think
Speaker 1: he's right about this under UH, you know in the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Buffalo should be able to hold them down
Speaker 1: and Buffalo and We'll have a hard time scoring. So
Speaker 1: I like, I like what Mike's going with there and
Speaker 1: then New Orleans at Atlanta is the final of the
Speaker 1: three games. Any thoughts there, guys. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I I I don't want to
Speaker 1: offend the people in the Southeast, but it's just a
Speaker 1: point of this. Seems like the late game is always
Speaker 1: an NFC South South game. Now. I remember when they
Speaker 1: used to have an NFC West game, And maybe it's
Speaker 1: a regional bias, but regional bias, but you know, having
Speaker 1: uh the Seahawks or play somebody here. I know they
Speaker 1: set the schedule away ahead of time, but it's just
Speaker 1: kind of a letdown game for me. I'd rather see
Speaker 1: Texas and Texas A and M. What's college football? We
Speaker 1: got Old miss in Mississippi State Thursday night. Yeah, by
Speaker 1: the way, I love Mississippi getting two and a half.
Speaker 1: And you were saying the wrong team is favorite in
Speaker 1: this one in your opinion, I really believe that. Look
Speaker 1: at the comparative scores against at SEC West schedule. Every
Speaker 1: team Mississippi State has been ten points closer to Mississippi
Speaker 1: has been ten points closer than Mississippi State. What I
Speaker 1: think Mississippi can score and uh, I think they're better
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. I like it. Do
Speaker 1: you like it better than Buffalo Dallas under? If you
Speaker 1: had one pick on Thursday, would you play the college one? Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's a road game in a rivalry game, so
Speaker 1: I'll stay with the Dallas play Okay, Dallas A Buffalo
Speaker 1: under is Mikey's first best bet. Uh, let's go to
Speaker 1: the real deal then, So that's Mike's first bet, Todd,
Speaker 1: what's yours? Well, First of all, if you don't want
Speaker 1: to watch New Orleans Atlanta at five o'clock five twenty
Speaker 1: local time here in Vegas on Thursday night, and you're
Speaker 1: sick of arguing with your relatives, come on down to
Speaker 1: the Orleans for to dremendous college basketball games where you
Speaker 1: can literally sit in the front row and heckle the
Speaker 1: crap out of those kids. After you make your in
Speaker 1: game bet, and if you have the over, you can
Speaker 1: just scream what what? Or if you have the under,
Speaker 1: slow down, or if the coaches are telling their players
Speaker 1: what to do, you can, you know, do the same
Speaker 1: thing as they're doing in s fantast Todd, this is
Speaker 1: not a local Las Vegas podcast, though, so that that
Speaker 1: only hit on like a very small percentage of the audience.
Speaker 1: You want to come, as Mike will tell you, for
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is a destinations Okay, okay, Bill, come down of
Speaker 1: the Orleans to hear you screaming stuff like that. What's
Speaker 1: your first best bet? That my first my first best bet.
Speaker 1: I want to get a good number. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers against the Doug Williams, I mean
Speaker 1: Clem Haskins led Washington Redskins Carolina minus ten. Is that
Speaker 1: the correct number? By the way. That is so I'll
Speaker 1: take the Carolina Panthers against the Washington Redskins. Why well,
Speaker 1: you may ask me who's the quarterback of the Redskins.
Speaker 1: I believe that's Clem Haskins or whatever name is, Dwayne Haskins.
Speaker 1: I call him Clemt. The point is he spinks and
Speaker 1: I don't that when the Detroit gave them a gift win.
Speaker 1: Remember the Redskins got one touchdown on a kickoff return.
Speaker 1: They also got a couple more gifts field goal. They stink.
Speaker 1: Okay and Carolina at home. They seem to get their
Speaker 1: mojo back last week against New Orleans. All they have
Speaker 1: to do is whoop up on the Redskins by ten.
Speaker 1: I don't think there should be much of a problem.
Speaker 1: Haskins could throw three picks. Give me Carolina minus ten. Well,
Speaker 1: I hate to mush you here because my pre flop
Speaker 1: has really not been that good. That's an understatement, but
Speaker 1: I like Carolina minus ten too. On Guessing Lines on
Speaker 1: Monday with Chrissy Andrews from the South Point Hotel Casino
Speaker 1: Sports Book, the director of that sports hook. Uh, this
Speaker 1: was one of the three lines. First of all, let
Speaker 1: me just say this week thirteen, this was one of
Speaker 1: these guessing lines situations where nothing was that far off, Like,
Speaker 1: these are pretty tight these lines, and CAROLINEA minus ten.
Speaker 1: If I was searching for ones to like, that was
Speaker 1: kind of the one. And it was basically, as you said, Todd,
Speaker 1: just picking on Dwayne Haskins junior Dwayne Haskins Jr. Who
Speaker 1: was taking a selfie while the Redskins were in victory
Speaker 1: formation against the Lions last week, a game they had
Speaker 1: no business winning. They only had two hundred thirty total
Speaker 1: yards of offense. Uh. Dwayne Haskins only completed thirteen passes.
Speaker 1: He was thirteen of twenty nine for one fifty six,
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, one pick Zack three times. Redskins had eight
Speaker 1: penalties for sixty three yards. By the way, Josh Norman
Speaker 1: doesn't even play defense anymore, They only put him in
Speaker 1: on special teams. But Quentin Dunbar intercepted Jeff Dristco in
Speaker 1: the final minute Dustin Hopkins from thirty nine yards and
Speaker 1: the Redskins won their second game of the year. But
Speaker 1: nothing about that leads me to believe that the Panthers
Speaker 1: can't destroy them even in defeat. Carolina should have won
Speaker 1: that game, by the way, against New Orleans, it's amazing
Speaker 1: they didn't um Joey Sly really choked twenty eight yard
Speaker 1: field goal at the end. Kyle Allen is going to
Speaker 1: find Dj Moore. He is going to have a big
Speaker 1: day in the air, and Christian McCaffrey is going to
Speaker 1: fill up the box score, both on the ground and
Speaker 1: in the passing game as well. I like Carolina as well.
Speaker 1: I know it's given a whole bunch of points, but
Speaker 1: the Skins are as terrible as they were even before that.
Speaker 1: When Carolina minuston my best bet as well, Mike pick
Speaker 1: number two. What are we seen on the game? And Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: what are you looking for? The spread or the total. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is a pick them consensus. I I say that
Speaker 1: because I know Todd will play the total. Uh. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take Sir Jameis Winston and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Speaker 1: at a pick wow. Wow, I think talk about the
Speaker 1: Toronto Maple leaves quitting on my Bagcock, I mean, what
Speaker 1: what is going on in Jacksonville the last two weeks
Speaker 1: at two division games where they just give us cower? Mike,
Speaker 1: you're out on the NHL network. Enough with the hockey.
Speaker 1: Come on, God, I don't say a skin word when
Speaker 1: you're given your lame mask against Wayne Haskins. House shut.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, But green Haskins is a football player, Mike.
Speaker 1: Enough of Clem Haskins. I think Jameis Winston they have
Speaker 1: the better team here. I know that they're prone to turnovers,
Speaker 1: but I know on a Jacksonville team that has nothing
Speaker 1: to play for, I thought this number would be too
Speaker 1: like the Buccaneers would be a two point favorite in
Speaker 1: this game, maybe two and a half. I just don't
Speaker 1: see Jacksonville beating them here. What do they have to
Speaker 1: play for? What they give up a hundred seventy points
Speaker 1: to Bright Hannah Hill last week in Tennessee. I'm going
Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay. Yeah, you know, a lot of what
Speaker 1: you said. By the way, there's a few Jacksonville minus
Speaker 1: ones out there, but consensus pick them. A lot of
Speaker 1: what you said could apply to Tampa Bay as well.
Speaker 1: But I get it because Tampa Bay at least shows
Speaker 1: up from time to time. They beat Atlanta thirty five
Speaker 1: to twenty two, beat him handily last week. Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: is such a weird team, right because like every week
Speaker 1: Jamis throws for over three hundred yards. I think he's
Speaker 1: done it five straight weeks now, uh six, excuse me,
Speaker 1: six straight weeks he's throwing for three hundred yards. But
Speaker 1: then there's bad Jamis. Right, He's been picked off in
Speaker 1: NFL high twenty times. So every time you're betting this,
Speaker 1: you're betting on good Jamis showing up. It was their
Speaker 1: second win, by the way for the Bucks in their
Speaker 1: last seven games. Last week. They did have four hundred
Speaker 1: forty six total yards against Atlanta, so I mean they
Speaker 1: can get it done. Chris Godwin filling up a statuet
Speaker 1: even more than Mike Evans uh and Jacksonville was just
Speaker 1: miserable against the Titans in that flurry in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: So Tampa Bay is a pick. Yeah, And I'd like
Speaker 1: to mention this too. In the common game where Jacksonville
Speaker 1: just got run out of Tennessee, Tampa Bay got totally
Speaker 1: jobbed in a game they should have won. On several accounts.
Speaker 1: They out gained them, they got a terrible call on
Speaker 1: a block field goal. I just think Tampa is a
Speaker 1: better team. Todd pick number two, I'm mourning you don't
Speaker 1: land on one that I have. Well, you know, I
Speaker 1: was thinking about going act to Tampa over, but I
Speaker 1: have a feeling that the overstreet could come to an
Speaker 1: end finally against jackson I think I'm gonna I may
Speaker 1: lay off Tampa over this week after I've you know,
Speaker 1: said Tampa over a thousand times in a row, and
Speaker 1: it's gone over a thousand times a row. So I
Speaker 1: am thinking about a different ballgame for my second pick,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be the Oakland raid Is. Oakland raid
Speaker 1: Is got their asses handed to them, very similar to
Speaker 1: the way you guys got your asses handed to you
Speaker 1: in tennis. In the Las Vegas Invitational over and over,
Speaker 1: it was a very similar scenario where the Oakland Raiders
Speaker 1: lost thirties seven to through a thirty four to three
Speaker 1: against the New York Jets. Very surprising outcome with how
Speaker 1: well the Raiders have played this year. I don't think
Speaker 1: the Raiders are gonna play as bad and that probably
Speaker 1: got the attention of the boys. Uh Gruden probably said,
Speaker 1: knock on would if you're with me, men, because we're
Speaker 1: not getting blown out again. Now Here's why. Kansas City
Speaker 1: has a tendency to be very high scoring, but doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to be able to stop anyone. And they never
Speaker 1: seem to cover these big spreads because the back doors
Speaker 1: are always open. By the way, remember how early in
Speaker 1: the season when they crushed the Ravens and the Ravens
Speaker 1: still got the back door. We were all like, wow,
Speaker 1: he look glad they couldn't cover. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Boy how things have changed. But anyways, they never seemed
Speaker 1: to cover these big numbers. If Oakland's down sixteen late,
Speaker 1: you've got a good chance to at least push or cover.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the ten points with the Raiders. I
Speaker 1: think they have a good offense. They have a crappy defense,
Speaker 1: but a good enough offense to get them back door
Speaker 1: touchdowns here and get inside the ten points. So give
Speaker 1: me Raiders plus ten. Todd, my friend, I am op
Speaker 1: o you on this game. I am too. I am
Speaker 1: taking the Kansas City Chiefs that I am. Get your
Speaker 1: record with the Chiefs this year it has been stellar.
Speaker 1: It's about five on um. No, yeah, no, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so have you done it? Yeah? Please do the research.
Speaker 1: By the way, when Todd says he's going to do
Speaker 1: the research, that's the last we ever hear about it.
Speaker 1: So don't expect. Don't expect to study somebody out there.
Speaker 1: That's right. Um, here's the thing. I have all the
Speaker 1: little cards here. I can just look at it. All right, Todd,
Speaker 1: What does that have to do with this game? By
Speaker 1: the way, what does it have to do? I just
Speaker 1: wanted to make funny. You go ahead, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. Derek Carr. Last week against the the
Speaker 1: New York Jets, in which the Oakland Raiders were destroyed
Speaker 1: thirty four to three. By the way, the week before that,
Speaker 1: they should not have beat the Cincinnati Bengals. I the
Speaker 1: Bengals were any modicum of a football team, they would
Speaker 1: have lost that one to Oakland. But Car last week
Speaker 1: against the Jets fifteen twenty seven for one twenty seven,
Speaker 1: no touchdowns. One Picky was sacked once by the way,
Speaker 1: that pick was a pick six. He was pulled by
Speaker 1: coach John Gruden with just under two minutes left in
Speaker 1: the third quarter. Even went to Terry Glennon, excuse me,
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon, as John Gruden likes to call him, Mike
Speaker 1: Glenn's four or seven for twenty in relief. Josh Jacobs
Speaker 1: was held at ten carries for thirty or four yards.
Speaker 1: They were destroyed by the Jets. Period. Kansas City is
Speaker 1: on extra rest here after their Mexico City win over
Speaker 1: the Charge first game in Oakland, Kansas City had that
Speaker 1: second quarter flurry of touchdowns if you remember that, we're
Speaker 1: that allowed them to beat the Raiders uh that day
Speaker 1: points in the second half of that game because I
Speaker 1: got screwed night over. It was at the half and
Speaker 1: somehow went under. Yeah, you could say all you want
Speaker 1: about the Kansas City Chiefs defense, and you'd be right.
Speaker 1: But you know what defense is even worse than the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs defense, the Raiders defense. And this is
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes with full throttle in this game with Tyree
Speaker 1: Hill and Company. Derek Carr, we like to make fun
Speaker 1: I mentioned this on the Guessing Lines. We like to
Speaker 1: make fun of Jared Golf, and justifiably so. When that
Speaker 1: California kid gets in cold weather and he looks like
Speaker 1: he's in a thirty two below blizzard when it's actually
Speaker 1: just thirty two degrees fairy night. That game in Chicago
Speaker 1: last night was just like, oh my god, it's so cold.
Speaker 1: I can't function. Derek Carr in games that start with
Speaker 1: the temperature below fifty degrees fahrenheit, Lifetime two and nine,
Speaker 1: straight up, way better, way better than that. Don't don't
Speaker 1: see you. Don't try to think you're smarter than the room. Here,
Speaker 1: You're not. Here's the deal. It's gonna be for the
Speaker 1: high on Sunday in Kansas City. The high will be
Speaker 1: forty one degrees, so you're looking at temperatures in the
Speaker 1: thirties game time for this, I expect Derek Carr to wilt.
Speaker 1: I get it. That was a straight up record, not
Speaker 1: an a t S record. But I think the Chiefs
Speaker 1: blow the doors off this game. I think they route
Speaker 1: the Raiders, who have been a complete fraud up until
Speaker 1: this point this season. By the way, a big loss
Speaker 1: for the Raiders here. No Hunter Renfro. Hunter Renfro has
Speaker 1: bailed them out a lot on offense. That's a huge
Speaker 1: loss for the Raiders. I think the Chiefs are better
Speaker 1: off without that too. So we're APO, Toddy, We're APPO.
Speaker 1: We'll see how it plays out. Alright, Mikey number three.
Speaker 1: I wish to acquire as to the Monday night football total.
Speaker 1: The Monday night football great game, by the way, Minnesota
Speaker 1: at Seattle. The total is fifty. Well, now hold on,
Speaker 1: let me let me and a half. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sit hold on. No, it leans fifty though, doesn't it, Todd,
Speaker 1: So give him fifty. I think it's fifty fifty by
Speaker 1: a hair. That's better because he's gonna go under. I actually,
Speaker 1: if you were giving me forty nine and a half,
Speaker 1: I was going over. But since it's fifty, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go under. Here. I knew he was going under. He
Speaker 1: always goes under. Have you ever played it over in
Speaker 1: your entire life? By the way, I played over in
Speaker 1: the Cornell Navy game last night, Todd, I tried to
Speaker 1: give it. How was Hoops picked? That was Hoops Peterson's pick?
Speaker 1: Looking for fourteen year old girls. That was hoops Peterson's pick.
Speaker 1: I mean a Mike Palm originated pick. Has you ever
Speaker 1: taken it over? Ever? Honestly tell you something, Todd, don't
Speaker 1: undersell the skill it takes to go through three picks
Speaker 1: and find the good ones. All right, Now back to
Speaker 1: that question. Yeah, I have remember the Rose Bowl between
Speaker 1: Georgia and Oklahoma year. I bet that over last year
Speaker 1: Carolina Carolina at Pittsburgh. I bet the first half over
Speaker 1: it went over the first quarter. Okay, and don't walk
Speaker 1: to the window. Run all right? Back to Seattle. Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: this Seattle defense has improved. Okay, we saw it in
Speaker 1: San Francisco. We've seen the difference to David and Clowney made.
Speaker 1: And in that game in Philadelphia, I was pounding like
Speaker 1: you do gild the pounding van game, pounding the end
Speaker 1: game under in that decided to think any team could
Speaker 1: move the ball outside of a big play. They weren't
Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns, right, So I've really come to respect this
Speaker 1: Seattle defense. And oh, by the way, Pete Carroll is
Speaker 1: one of the top defensive coordinators even though he's the
Speaker 1: head coach. Top defensive minds in the NFL. Combine that
Speaker 1: with the fact that you have Kirk Cousin Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: playing outdoors. Okay, you know I've been big on this
Speaker 1: Minnesota team. I've said I think they have a chance
Speaker 1: to make the Super Bowl. I think this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a fantastic game played somewhere around. I don't see
Speaker 1: this game getting to fifty. I think you're gonna see
Speaker 1: just like last year in cold weather, in in December,
Speaker 1: in Seattle. It will be a defensive struggle. And I
Speaker 1: really think this number comes back way too high at fifty.
Speaker 1: We'll go under for our finalect under Monday Night, Minnesota
Speaker 1: Seattle for Mikey Todd number three. I wish to inquire
Speaker 1: what the line is in that same game. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: three everywhere, Seattle minus three. Okay, give me Mike's Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings plus the three. Now iably the first to say
Speaker 1: that Mike's way off as Rocker when he thinks Minnesota
Speaker 1: is a legitimate Super Bowl contender with Kurt Cousins at
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, that is what we would call a
Speaker 1: travesty of reasoning. But I will say this, I think
Speaker 1: Seattle is a little overblown. I think they're a little
Speaker 1: bit too much. Russell Wilson is the greatest thing since
Speaker 1: slice bread. Nonsense. I know he's great, He's been great
Speaker 1: this whole year, but there's been a lot of close calls.
Speaker 1: The Eagles didn't even show up last week. I mean
Speaker 1: they played defensively. On offense, they were horrendous. Uh. Minnesota
Speaker 1: is the kind of team that can travel in my opinion,
Speaker 1: because they run the ball and they play some defense.
Speaker 1: This game could easily end up. I want those three
Speaker 1: big fat, juicy points, and I'm gonna take the Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings plus the three. Okay. By the way, Jadavian Cloudy
Speaker 1: intends to play in this game against the Vikings. He
Speaker 1: was absent last week for the Seahawks. Seahawks are undefeated
Speaker 1: on the road this year. There's six and oh for
Speaker 1: the first time in franchise history on the road. At home,
Speaker 1: they are three and two straight up. Russell Wilson last
Speaker 1: week and victory over against The victory over the Eagles
Speaker 1: was twenty five for two hundred, one touchdown pass which
Speaker 1: was just beautiful. One pick. He was sacked six times,
Speaker 1: which was very uh odd to see with him, but
Speaker 1: he's the first quarterback in NFL history to start his
Speaker 1: career with eight straight winning seasons. He started all one
Speaker 1: thirty six games since his rookie season, including thirteen in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Basically, he makes up for a lot of
Speaker 1: their awarts on offense, and Jadavian Clowney when he feels
Speaker 1: like playing, does the same on defense. The one thing
Speaker 1: I will say about that game, um Philadelphia was horrific
Speaker 1: by the way Rashad Penny, who was fourteen of one
Speaker 1: nine for a touchdown fifty eight yards scamper. When did
Speaker 1: he become bowling ball? Like? When did I sit on
Speaker 1: the mega on the guessing lines? I was like, when
Speaker 1: did he eat Mojoe Drew? Like? When did this happen
Speaker 1: with pennies? Anybody else noticing this? He used to put
Speaker 1: He used to it used to be a lot more
Speaker 1: spelt at San Diego State, right, Like this doesn't feel
Speaker 1: that way with them anymore. Twelve carries excuse me, twelve
Speaker 1: penalties for the Seahawks in that game against the Eagles,
Speaker 1: though for the ninety yards they got to clean that
Speaker 1: up odd taking the vikings and the three points. All right,
Speaker 1: my third pick, since I was awfully chalky on the
Speaker 1: first two Sadly, I'm taking a third favorite, but not
Speaker 1: quite as chalky though on this one. Uh, the New
Speaker 1: York Football Jets. New York Jets are giving just is
Speaker 1: it three or three and a half? Todd? What do you?
Speaker 1: What do you give them? Here? I see a lot
Speaker 1: of three minus one and some three and a half.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna have to say three and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing more three and a half, So much to
Speaker 1: my chagrin, I'm gonna have to give the hook here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll much to my chagrine. I don't know where my
Speaker 1: chagrin is, but I've got something. Jets are three and
Speaker 1: a half point favorites on the road against the windless
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bungles. Um. The Bengals are just not good at
Speaker 1: football yet. Against the Steelers last week, they had every
Speaker 1: opportunity to win that damn football game. They just would
Speaker 1: not take it from the Steelers. My god, Uh, they
Speaker 1: probably should have beaten Like I said, if they were
Speaker 1: any good at all, they probably would have beaten the
Speaker 1: Raiders the week before. Um, but they weren't. They are
Speaker 1: getting Andy Dalton back in this game, and so that's,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of convenient now that they have a
Speaker 1: two game cushion for that worst uh record in football
Speaker 1: and the and the shot at the number one pick
Speaker 1: in the NFL draft kind of convenient. Then now they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll put Andy Dalton back in see if we can
Speaker 1: actually win a game, because it doesn't have to we
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about even though Dalton's coming back.
Speaker 1: A Um, I am That's kind of what I was
Speaker 1: getting to if again, you let me just sort of
Speaker 1: speak um uh. Jamal Adams. By the way, after that
Speaker 1: game against the Raiders, I don't want to sound very
Speaker 1: irrogant or two cocky, but I think those Raider fans
Speaker 1: came in a little too happy. I think they thought
Speaker 1: it was going to be an easy game. Sam Donald
Speaker 1: said a few weeks ago, Yeah, we can still make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Jess have won three in a row. After
Speaker 1: they won that first game of the three game streak,
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, I think we can say the ploffs.
Speaker 1: And we laughed. Then we laughed, and we laughed. Jets
Speaker 1: are really good in some phases of this game, one
Speaker 1: of which is the New York Football Jets came into
Speaker 1: that game against the Raiders allowing a league glow set
Speaker 1: of any nine point one yards rushing per game. They
Speaker 1: gave up sixty eight to Oakland, led by Josh Jacobs,
Speaker 1: who was the short shot for offensive rookie of the
Speaker 1: year right now, even shorter than Kyler Murray, which both
Speaker 1: Todd and I correctly were incredulous about this morning on
Speaker 1: a numbers game. Um, that's huge against the Cincinnati Bengals team.
Speaker 1: It's not like a j Green is showing up for
Speaker 1: this game. Just Andy Dalton's showing up. You take away
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon here, you make the Bengals one dimensional. I'll
Speaker 1: take the Jets minus three and a half on the road.
Speaker 1: I think the Jets are actually a fairly credible, not
Speaker 1: awful football team. Give me the Jets minus three and
Speaker 1: a half at Cincinnati, pick number three for young Gil Todd.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, now, my thoughts are I don't so you're
Speaker 1: saying that they're they're they're better off because Dalton starting.
Speaker 1: I was confused. Well, you, well, you weren't listening if
Speaker 1: that's what you got out of that. No, they're not
Speaker 1: better off because Dalton is starting. They are a really
Speaker 1: good run defense, defense against the run, and you just
Speaker 1: like them, You just like them regardless of who's starting
Speaker 1: for Since I was just trying to understand I said
Speaker 1: they were really good. They really wasn't that complicated. They're
Speaker 1: a really good defense against the run. Your response indicates
Speaker 1: that I was somehow confusing, which I wasn't at all.
Speaker 1: They're very good defense against the run. You take away
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon, you make them one dimensional and it's not
Speaker 1: like a J. Green is showing up. It's still the
Speaker 1: same Drek Tyler boy, not against your pick. I'm not
Speaker 1: against your pick. You sound like here against me? Is
Speaker 1: what you sound like? Todd? Todd, are you on another
Speaker 1: call as well? Yeah? Well I did to two megapods
Speaker 1: at the same time. I just wondered why you were distracted,
Speaker 1: because also, there'll be more interest in Alabama than you
Speaker 1: taught in a college football playoffs. I didn't say that, Mike.
Speaker 1: I said I thought people would watch the damn college
Speaker 1: football playoffs no matter who's in the damn game. Do
Speaker 1: you really think Utah will have as much interest as Alabama? Ta?
Speaker 1: Is that what you ingested? Now that you say it,
Speaker 1: I guess I guess Alabama would be a bigger draw.
Speaker 1: But I mean to me, if people if you're a
Speaker 1: college football fan. You're gonna watch the college football playoffs?
Speaker 1: I mean I know I'm gonna watch it regardless of
Speaker 1: who's in it. Yeah, you think you're representative of Joe
Speaker 1: Joe casual fan though, So Joe Casual, then we'll just
Speaker 1: watch if Alabama's in. But if Utah's an He's like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to watch it. Yeah. That you find
Speaker 1: that hard to believe? Okay, I mean maybe you're right.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying, look, what
Speaker 1: about all the Mormons that are gonna be watching special
Speaker 1: because you talk? Why are you gonna do that? The
Speaker 1: Mormon Church has a lot of people worldwide, but they
Speaker 1: only have one TV per household to be regional. Regional
Speaker 1: Love for them for sure. Um. Anyway, we're harketing back
Speaker 1: to the radio show, where we had a spirited debate
Speaker 1: about many things. College football is boarding as always, guys.
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Speaker 1: Where are we taught? Oh, it's teaser of the week
Speaker 1: time everybody us. I'm just so bad. You want to
Speaker 1: know your record? H don't tell me now. You go
Speaker 1: go ahead and tell me. You have two delicious winds
Speaker 1: in the teasers, and you have ten taken in the
Speaker 1: shorts looke losses on the tea. You keep saying it's me,
Speaker 1: and what do I keep responding, It's Stanford Wong's fault.
Speaker 1: I'm just playing the number outside of one. That's right.
Speaker 1: I'm only the one personally, but I'm two and nine
Speaker 1: with Stanford Wall. So you called Stanford he messed everything?
Speaker 1: That's right. Well, he does these work every year and
Speaker 1: me and I just keep pounding my head against the
Speaker 1: wall with these. But guess who guess what did cover?
Speaker 1: Because of the miracle touchdown at the end. I hadn't
Speaker 1: remember I told you my three team ten point teasers.
Speaker 1: I'm now like six and oh on them I had
Speaker 1: this week? I had needed a miracle from the Eagles
Speaker 1: that had no business of covering ten and a half,
Speaker 1: not even a chance should they have covered it, But
Speaker 1: they got that ridiculous bactor touchdown. And the other team
Speaker 1: I had was Saints minus a half, and the Saints
Speaker 1: also didn't really deserve to win. What did what did
Speaker 1: I have last weekend? My teaser? Todd? What was it again?
Speaker 1: You had Green Bay and New England? Yeah, green Man,
Speaker 1: New England? It was It wasn't Philadelphia's Green Bay that
Speaker 1: screwed me bad, not screwed me terrible. Yeah you know
Speaker 1: I said this on the show this morning on Serious
Speaker 1: x M two or four at Vista on a numbers
Speaker 1: game with Todd and Mike. Actually I think Mike had
Speaker 1: left already, but one of the things marketing back to
Speaker 1: the James Selina's thing, and James Selliens didn't end up
Speaker 1: winning the quarterly, but he ended up hedging as we
Speaker 1: described uh and fell a half game short of the
Speaker 1: quarterly prize or chopping the quarterly prize and the Circle
Speaker 1: Millions quarterly prize. Q Three is that you know these
Speaker 1: NFL games, and Todd and I talked about these pre
Speaker 1: flop a T s. Forget the teasers for a second.
Speaker 1: You know, sixty percent of these and we we're roughly
Speaker 1: estimating six but more than half of these. Let's face it,
Speaker 1: pre flop a T s are plink oh outcomes right
Speaker 1: like you're gonna be on the right side of them
Speaker 1: just as much as you are on the wrong side
Speaker 1: of them if you play enough of these, because they
Speaker 1: are and and to think that it's you when you
Speaker 1: win but not you when you lose. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: and about sixty percent of these games is utter hogwash, right,
Speaker 1: It's just a complete crapshoot. Of the time, maybe not
Speaker 1: so much. And I just want to send a shout
Speaker 1: out to James Selena's here on the podcast as well.
Speaker 1: How amazing is it that he has sustained this kind
Speaker 1: of excellence in this modern era of pro football, knowing that,
Speaker 1: you know, won the Super Contest, as you said, Mike
Speaker 1: in third place twenty place eighteen and flirted with the
Speaker 1: circule quarterly right there in Q three to to be
Speaker 1: able to overcome all those plinko games, and and Todd
Speaker 1: said it correctly this morning. He's probably really good at
Speaker 1: the fort and he's probably had a lot of good
Speaker 1: fortune in the sixt but that's still a long time
Speaker 1: to have good fortune in the six, right, So I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe we're doing him a disservice saying
Speaker 1: that maybe there's more two it than them. Maybe he
Speaker 1: is just that good. But the plinko nature of this
Speaker 1: is so frustrating, Todd. You say it yourself, like ten
Speaker 1: minutes into a game on a Sunday morning, you'll be
Speaker 1: the first one to say, up, here's the game of
Speaker 1: the week where the NFL's fixed it. You know, So
Speaker 1: you think about some of your quick reactions like that,
Speaker 1: and here's a guy who just gets it done year
Speaker 1: after year. So I'm just so impressed by that. Well,
Speaker 1: how's he doing teasers, Is he better than two and ten?
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure he is. He by the way,
Speaker 1: he plays no teasers, none whatsoever, none whatsoever. Alright, Anyway,
Speaker 1: the ten point that people who can do the ten
Speaker 1: point teasers, they seem a lot easier to me. I mean,
Speaker 1: of course, this is very short sample size. I've done
Speaker 1: six of them this year and hit all six, and
Speaker 1: of course that's not sustainable. But almost aside from this
Speaker 1: past week where I didn't really deserve to win and
Speaker 1: I won, all the rest of them were pretty much
Speaker 1: rocking chairs. And I think because of the plank o nature,
Speaker 1: as you say, the more points you get, the better
Speaker 1: off you are. And that's why I've started gravitating much
Speaker 1: more to the teasers, and especially the ten pointers in
Speaker 1: NFL games, for the exactly the reason you're saying that
Speaker 1: it's very hard to be ten points away from the
Speaker 1: spread in an NFL games, and everything changes in bedding
Speaker 1: and so look, you know, I can keep going with
Speaker 1: the Stanford long teasers and keep doing this, but things
Speaker 1: change in the NFL, and for some reason those aren't
Speaker 1: working this year. As Las Vegas, Chris was on the
Speaker 1: show earlier said he goes, you gotta, you gotta stop
Speaker 1: playing those this year. They're terrible, And he knows. I
Speaker 1: mean that's what it is, because he was doing them
Speaker 1: too for the first half of the season. And those
Speaker 1: three and those three ten ten pointers, those three team
Speaker 1: ten pointers used to be sucker bets back in the day.
Speaker 1: But ut for you, Mike, what's your two team six pointers? Sir?
Speaker 1: I have a question for Todd before I give you
Speaker 1: my teasers, because I'm thinking about using one of his plays. Todd,
Speaker 1: are you concerned that on Monday Night in Minnesota going
Speaker 1: on the road. Uh, it's too much to overcome for
Speaker 1: the Vikings since they've played almost every one of their
Speaker 1: games at home. No, I agree that they're not as
Speaker 1: good on the road, but I don't think Seattle's as
Speaker 1: good as everybody thinks they are. And I know your
Speaker 1: joke about how I missed both on the numbers game
Speaker 1: once and said, messed up the schedule with Minnesota, and
Speaker 1: you just never endingly beat the drum on my mistake.
Speaker 1: But thank you very much, Mike. The bottom line is, Uh, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: I believe we'll be playing on the road this week. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure, and uh, you
Speaker 1: know they've played you know, nine other games at home
Speaker 1: and only two on the road. You're right, And then
Speaker 1: it's a great in the schedule that Minnesota gets to
Speaker 1: play twelve at home this this year, it happens. It
Speaker 1: happens in one of the eight divisions every six years now.
Speaker 1: In an attempt to compete with Todd both in teasers
Speaker 1: and in best record for the Megapods this year, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna use some game theory here, and I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: you want to know what the records are? Mike, we're
Speaker 1: tied in the in the picks right. No, actually, you're
Speaker 1: slightly ahead because I am eighteen seventeen and one and
Speaker 1: you are seventeen sixteen and three, So percentage points wise,
Speaker 1: you are slightly ahead of me. Teasers, he's also slightly head.
Speaker 1: He's five and seven while I four seven and one. Oh,
Speaker 1: so you're sitting there making fun of me and you're
Speaker 1: exactly two and a half games ahead of me, and teasers,
Speaker 1: shut the up. You want to know your record and
Speaker 1: record games? Gil? Your four one and one that's after
Speaker 1: an oh and three last week. Yes, you are correct.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to protect against this fast closing, Todd,
Speaker 1: waist them and I'll use two of his plays and
Speaker 1: tease them. I'll tease the Vikings up to nine, and
Speaker 1: I'll tease the Panthers down to four. Vikings up to
Speaker 1: nine and Panthers down to four Todd, uh so Caroline
Speaker 1: and minus four for Mike. Okay, I will take, um, wow,
Speaker 1: I will take. Give me, give me green Bay? What
Speaker 1: the hell? Give me green Bay down to what do
Speaker 1: you have them at? Six and a half? Okay, so
Speaker 1: green green Bay minus a half? And um and my
Speaker 1: other one I need and a teaser? Give me just
Speaker 1: did you did this show? Surprise you that it was
Speaker 1: happening right out? Todd? I always bring, I always forget
Speaker 1: to do my teaser. Give me Tennessee plus eight and
Speaker 1: a half, Tennessee plus eight and a half. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: I am taking Are you ready for this? The Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys on Thanksgiving Thursday? Dallas Cowboys essentially takes it down
Speaker 1: to the to a one point spread, taking Dallas on
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving and I am tying it to the Carolina
Speaker 1: Panthers like Mikey has that leg as well. On Sunday,
Speaker 1: Carolina down to four against your Washington Redskins, by the way,
Speaker 1: that has the lowest total No excuse me, Denver Chargers
Speaker 1: one point lower at thirty eight and a half, Redskins
Speaker 1: Panthers at thirty nine and a half. So for me,
Speaker 1: it is Cowboys and Panthers for my two team teasers.
Speaker 1: The note on two team teasers. Most places, if you
Speaker 1: tie one of the legs, obviously you can't reduce down
Speaker 1: to a one team teaser, so they push it. But
Speaker 1: other places, if you tie one of them, you lose.
Speaker 1: So you want to always make sure that you play
Speaker 1: at a place where if you tie one of them,
Speaker 1: you actually um just push Todd. What happens if I
Speaker 1: have a better teaser record than you at the end
Speaker 1: of this year, like I could totally not only beat you,
Speaker 1: but like beat you going away. Still, I wasn't saying
Speaker 1: I was doing well on the six point teasers. I
Speaker 1: sure seemed that you sure seem to act like you
Speaker 1: were four seven and one. Hey, listen for four seven
Speaker 1: and one. Four seven one is not good. We all
Speaker 1: know that. I just thought it was very funny that
Speaker 1: you're too intent. At least I was doing them based
Speaker 1: on stand for long. What's your excuse? I've did a
Speaker 1: lot of your same stand Ford wants to get my
Speaker 1: four seven and one. I don't think you did. They
Speaker 1: really don't. Alright, No, I think that's bullshit. All right,
Speaker 1: let's let's go to the final two questions. Why are
Speaker 1: we already the final two questions? We are? That's what
Speaker 1: happens when you don't have a guest. And by the way,
Speaker 1: the only reason we don't have a guest today is
Speaker 1: because it is getaway day, the biggest travel day, guy
Speaker 1: numbers day game today was talking about how Nate Oates
Speaker 1: is now the coach from instead of Buffalo Bills and
Speaker 1: college basketball is now the coach of Alabama. They're going
Speaker 1: to run against Carolina and it's gonna be high scoring.
Speaker 1: It's three nothing three minutes in. Who's got the three
Speaker 1: North Carolina? Okay? You know the last time I employed
Speaker 1: that theory about it favors Carolina and I have a
Speaker 1: team run was when they played Auburn in the Sweet six.
Speaker 1: That didn't work out out too well. We got we
Speaker 1: got four picks in college basketball today from kayat three
Speaker 1: man Weave once again for those who want some college
Speaker 1: basketball action, He's loooking good right now. Carolina five nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Carolina minus nine and a half, Oklahoma State getting
Speaker 1: three against Syracuse, and then if you have the extra games,
Speaker 1: stony Brook getting five. I think it's four and a
Speaker 1: half now against Delaware, Monmouth against Norfolk State. But I
Speaker 1: think that one's already climbed. I think that one's five minutes.
Speaker 1: It's been Monmouth, right, you know what's in Monmouth. You
Speaker 1: know what's there, Monmouth Racetrack where they have one of
Speaker 1: the first William Hills in New Jersey. I went to visit.
Speaker 1: It was in Jersey. Yes, I hear it's lovely. Yes, alright.
Speaker 1: Final two questions Todd? How about on the show? Gil
Speaker 1: Todd said that unless you're from Pittsburgh, nobody would know
Speaker 1: where Duquane is. How dumb does he think your listeners
Speaker 1: are as dumb as him? He brings him down to
Speaker 1: his Okay, Now, I might be wrong about Utah being
Speaker 1: in the college football playoffs and everyone turning their television
Speaker 1: set off. But I guarantee you, if you line up
Speaker 1: a hundred people in the Circus Sports Book, less than
Speaker 1: thirty eight will know that Duquesne is in Pittsburgh. Not
Speaker 1: Nobody's not zero thirty eight percent pretty bad. Thirty eight
Speaker 1: percent favored Nixon before he was impeached. Okay, um, let's
Speaker 1: go to the cemetery vote in Illinois. Should have been
Speaker 1: president in nine Nixon? Oh you mean with the debate
Speaker 1: when he sweated himself all over the place, that I
Speaker 1: mean with what they did with daily in Chicago. Okay,
Speaker 1: Oh you know what I I was too young from
Speaker 1: too young for the historical politicism that that was the
Speaker 1: year of the shitzing on the debate though Todd, you
Speaker 1: are correct Nixon Kennedy debates. All I knew was there
Speaker 1: was there was a lot of shitzing on the on
Speaker 1: the TV, A lot of shitzing. Are almost like the
Speaker 1: new studios with the with the heat bulbs they got
Speaker 1: there trying to heat up the pizza. There must be
Speaker 1: like some pizza underneath the heat bulbs. Then he was
Speaker 1: many many, was very but clem. The other day he
Speaker 1: was complaining of those lights. For those who don't know,
Speaker 1: about two weeks ago, mysteriously, uh stadium lights for lack
Speaker 1: of a better description, like stadium grid lights were inserted
Speaker 1: into the Visa studio and they're about, I don't know,
Speaker 1: five to ten feet away from our eyeballs when we're broadcasting.
Speaker 1: There's only a hundred and fifty degrees in there, and
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for them to put some pizza under the
Speaker 1: heat bulbs to keep it warm. Final two questions. We
Speaker 1: have three Thanksgiving games included here. Of course, which of
Speaker 1: the big favorites do you think is most likely to lose?
Speaker 1: Out right? Two of these are on Thanksgiving Dallas seven
Speaker 1: point favorites at home against Buffalo noll and seven point
Speaker 1: favorites on the road against Atlanta. The other ones on
Speaker 1: Sunday Philly nine and a half or ten point favorites
Speaker 1: somewhere in that pocket away at Miama Carolina, as we mentioned,
Speaker 1: ten point favorites at home against the Skinnies Green Basics,
Speaker 1: and a half point favorites on the road against the
Speaker 1: Giants bottom Er, all the way up to six points
Speaker 1: after that Lamar Jackson tour to Force on Monday night
Speaker 1: six point favorites over the one lost Niners, Wow Kansas
Speaker 1: City ten point favorites against the UH Oakland Raiders being
Speaker 1: the other option. So those are a bunch. Those are one, two, three, four, five, six,
Speaker 1: seven games nearly half the slate. No buys anymore everybody's
Speaker 1: playing five weeks sprint to the playoffs. Here, which of
Speaker 1: those big favorites do you believe is the most likely
Speaker 1: lose outright, Mike Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore Ravens. I think we're
Speaker 1: we're we're drinking a bit much. I love watching all offense.
Speaker 1: I love with the touch that he's developed on the ball.
Speaker 1: But when you have to take off a defensive line
Speaker 1: like San Francisco and attack him and not sit back
Speaker 1: there and let them get five and six yards on
Speaker 1: first down, we will change the course of the game.
Speaker 1: I also think San Francisco with tittleback will be able
Speaker 1: to run the ball against the Baltimore defense. And and
Speaker 1: to Michael Lombardi's point, they were much different team, much
Speaker 1: like Dallas playing from ahead than they are if they
Speaker 1: get behind. So I think it's very conceivable that San
Speaker 1: Francisco goes in there in a non game of the
Speaker 1: week and beats the Ravens. I just want to say,
Speaker 1: I'm not busting your balls here on this. I thought
Speaker 1: it was very interesting how when Kyler Murray played the Niners.
Speaker 1: You're taking my talking. This is what I said a
Speaker 1: guessing lines. Don't listen to my show and then regurgitated
Speaker 1: on the megapod. I didn't, I honestly didn't hear your
Speaker 1: being the lines this week. But anyways, the my point
Speaker 1: was that the Niners look very different when they were
Speaker 1: playing Kyler Murray versus when they were playing um, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: They seem to have some trouble against these real running quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and it could be that Lamar gives them troubled. What
Speaker 1: do you think of that here than on the guessing lines,
Speaker 1: by the way, but go ahead, I agree with your point.
Speaker 1: It's a very valid Yeah, the exact point total here,
Speaker 1: so they allowed. The Niners did seventy eight points in
Speaker 1: the two games against Kyler Murray and Russell Wilson. They
Speaker 1: then against Aaron Rodgers, arguably the best quarterback in the NFL,
Speaker 1: pocket passer primarily although mobile, they allowed one yards on
Speaker 1: seventy plays, didn't allow a single completion longer than fifteen yards.
Speaker 1: So maybe, and maybe there is an achilles heel with
Speaker 1: the Niners defense. They do seem to have trouble small
Speaker 1: samples eyes with mobile quarterbacks. We'll see on it. There
Speaker 1: were a lot of designed runs by Kyler Murray where
Speaker 1: they did little like fake options, including the twenty two
Speaker 1: yard touchdown scamper that put them in the lead briefly
Speaker 1: late in the game. Was it was a designed run play.
Speaker 1: I noticed that in the game plan. I think they were.
Speaker 1: They must have seen something on the tape that said
Speaker 1: that they could do that. That's what scares me about that. Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm Todd Wishnev. I listened to Guessing lines on Monday.
Speaker 1: Then I regurgitategate. I'm sorry, I'm talking. Sorry the host
Speaker 1: is talking. Then I regurgitate those points on Thursday or
Speaker 1: Wednesday on megapod, and then I denyed listening to Guessing
Speaker 1: because you just because me and you think a lot
Speaker 1: think alike at times doesn't mean that I stole your point.
Speaker 1: I'm looking in the camera at Mike. Mike, who do
Speaker 1: you believe me? Here's the god, here's yes, he said,
Speaker 1: pleast credit the source. Okay, alright, final of the final questions. Now, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, I didn't answer that questions answer, Yeah, Todd,
Speaker 1: what do you like? What's the one there? What do
Speaker 1: you not? Which big favorite do you you think is the
Speaker 1: most likely to lose? Out right? Maybe Dallas Cowboys just
Speaker 1: because of the stupid Cowboys just because the stupid coaching. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it could happen, could happen. I think that my answer
Speaker 1: will be ready for this. The Philadelphia Eagles. They're really
Speaker 1: bad right now. By the way, here's the thing though,
Speaker 1: alshon Jeffrey Nelson, Aghil or Lane Johnson all on track
Speaker 1: to return versus the Dolphins. So you know, if I
Speaker 1: had another pick, I'd take the Cowboys, despite the fact
Speaker 1: that I'm teasing them. But the Eagles, if they were Hamstrong,
Speaker 1: would probably be my choice there. But knowing that those
Speaker 1: guys are coming back, maybe not. Maybe it's the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: By the way, I know you're busting my balls, but
Speaker 1: I really didn't hear you say that. I'm guessing. Of course,
Speaker 1: of course not alright, I'd like to answer this question
Speaker 1: because I'm sure at this point the listeners would like
Speaker 1: to know. D Do you ever listen to Gail show
Speaker 1: if you're not on it? Yeah, I actually listened to
Speaker 1: Tuesday's show. I love Tuesday's Tuesday's with Lombardi's I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I don't like Monday's show. I just happened to
Speaker 1: be busy with my other job. Once in a while,
Speaker 1: I actually have to do some work what and very
Speaker 1: often it happens between the hours of six am and
Speaker 1: nine am Pacific time, because I'm busy with nine am
Speaker 1: to noon New York times. So I happen to have
Speaker 1: been busy on Monday, so I missed the show. Sorry, Mike.
Speaker 1: All right? Did you are you aware that The Monday
Speaker 1: Show with Chrissy is also broadcast in podcast form and
Speaker 1: also available on vica dot com In the replay, I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of that, Mike. But I will get
Speaker 1: on that immediately and review all of Gil's great talking points,
Speaker 1: so um, I don't accidentally step on them here on
Speaker 1: the megapod in the future. All right, what if we
Speaker 1: live in a Bizarro world Final question and we had
Speaker 1: to choose the side we had to bet acided every
Speaker 1: single one of these sixteen NFL games, but you were
Speaker 1: allowed one free pass one game where You're like, I
Speaker 1: have no clue what's going to happen here, Mike? What
Speaker 1: game would that be? Boy? This is a tough one
Speaker 1: this week because there are several for me. Chargers Broncos
Speaker 1: is one, Rams, Cardinals is another. One. Um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta decide, and by the way, I just want to
Speaker 1: say as a note here, I really like the Browns
Speaker 1: this week. I didn't include them, and I don't want
Speaker 1: to tease through the zero, but I'm I'm high on
Speaker 1: the Browns. Um but it is Hodges starting, is Hodges starting,
Speaker 1: or I'm Mason Hodges as far as I'm as far
Speaker 1: as what I'm reading. So you're you're, you're not you
Speaker 1: Still you think he stinks just as much as Mason.
Speaker 1: I think that they're often stinks. And of course, and
Speaker 1: I think that this team is coming together under the
Speaker 1: tutelage of Freddie Kitchens, and he's going to make a
Speaker 1: playoff run and shock the world. This guy he may
Speaker 1: be getting in line for a promotion. He may be
Speaker 1: the heir apparent to belicheck Off. What he's gonna do
Speaker 1: it back after this year with it is official Devilon
Speaker 1: Hodges as your starter by the way they game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Chargers broncos Uh. I just
Speaker 1: think that Rivers is like really aging quickly before our
Speaker 1: eyes here. I really like to have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with Anthony Lynn unless I can bet again. But I
Speaker 1: can't do with Fannie pack Vic, so I'll lay off
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, this is the this could be the
Speaker 1: last Brandon Allen game because, uh, guests, who's ready to
Speaker 1: come off? I are after that Drew Lock everybody Todd
Speaker 1: which is yours? I don't really want to bet on
Speaker 1: a lot of these games, but I guess Rams Arizona.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what have the Rams are? The Rams
Speaker 1: just stink? Now, what is the deal with the Rams?
Speaker 1: Have they just plundered to the bottom of the barrel?
Speaker 1: I mean, what is going on with this team? It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And Arizona seems to be going on the other side. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be very interested to watch that game,
Speaker 1: but I have no idea what's going to happen there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think at the end, I'm Chargers Denver two. And
Speaker 1: it was tough to pick because the Rams Arizona was
Speaker 1: part of that list Tennessee, Indianapolis even for me was
Speaker 1: a tough one to come up with. But yeah, for me,
Speaker 1: it's Chargers Denver because the Chargers are so untrustworthy. As
Speaker 1: much talent as they have, they just never seem to
Speaker 1: live up to it. And the Denver Broncos I never
Speaker 1: get right. Among several times I don't get right quite
Speaker 1: frankly this here, But Denver is one that is just
Speaker 1: perplexing because their defense does show up every once in
Speaker 1: a while. So for me, it'd be Chargers in Denver
Speaker 1: before you, before you close it up. I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask Mikey a question if they could maybe put a
Speaker 1: prop up at circa Will Rivers get inside the ten
Speaker 1: yard line in the last minute of the game and
Speaker 1: not be able to jam it in? Yes? Or no?
Speaker 1: Could we get that? Well, that happened to more and
Speaker 1: Warren Moon all the time to it and then no
Speaker 1: one ever Well, Warren Moon was a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: you know that. Get ready for a world in which
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is all of Famer to Todd, I hate
Speaker 1: to tell you. I think it's gonna happen. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want to live in that world, or this one
Speaker 1: for that matter. But ahead, Mikey, before we get out
Speaker 1: of here, you wanted to say something I do. I
Speaker 1: just want to wish all of the listeners happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: Obviously without the listeners we couldn't make the kind of
Speaker 1: money we're making off this podcast. Skill Also, on a
Speaker 1: serious note, if you'd have if you'd have told me
Speaker 1: two years ago, that one of the most rewarding things
Speaker 1: I would have got out of are taking a shot
Speaker 1: when Visa was first forming on getting involved, would be
Speaker 1: my friendship with two Jews from the eastern part of
Speaker 1: the country. I would have said that that was you
Speaker 1: couldn't put that number on the board, would be too high.
Speaker 1: But really you need Todd. Todd, he's saying something sincere Jesus,
Speaker 1: He's saying something sincere and kind. And you gotta see
Speaker 1: always what you have to say is the most important thing.
Speaker 1: Shut up for a second, Mike finished the lovely thoughts.
Speaker 1: You are both You are both very intelligent and beyond that,
Speaker 1: very kind people. And I've enjoyed my time both on
Speaker 1: the set on this megapod and off of it with
Speaker 1: the two of you. So Happy Thanksgiving, Mike, thank you.
Speaker 1: That was very sweet, and likewise to you as well.
Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to you, Todd. What was it that you
Speaker 1: needed to say? I want to say, I'm very thankful
Speaker 1: that you guys are really good at tennis. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Mikey calmed down, relaxed that I have the same feelings
Speaker 1: towards both of you as well, one Jew, one Catholic
Speaker 1: and one renowned jew Happy Thanksgiving to all. Obviously, have
Speaker 1: a great time screaming at your family, and uh, it's
Speaker 1: been very fun hanging with you guys. I do this obviously,
Speaker 1: I get paid a lot here, both on the podcast
Speaker 1: and on visa and uh, you know so for me,
Speaker 1: it's a labor of love and tremendous amounts of cash.
Speaker 1: By the way, at the end of this season, I'm
Speaker 1: taking you both to Carbone Carbone Rap party this year.
Speaker 1: How about that? That's where PAULI goes to close? Right,
Speaker 1: Jesus does Carbone have four percent negative EV machines anywhere
Speaker 1: over there? All right, thank you both, Thank you, Thanks guys. Hey,
Speaker 1: happy Thanksgiving, not only to everyone listening, but to you
Speaker 1: guys as well. Todd wished him at Mike Palm who
Speaker 1: not only Todd, you're on the Numbers game every Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Mike stays over for a Numbers game too on occasion.
Speaker 1: But for doing the megupod faithfully each and every week,
Speaker 1: it's a blast. I can't wait to finish up the
Speaker 1: regular season going to the playoffs with you, gentlemen. Maybe
Speaker 1: we'll even do a lifestyle show together between the conference
Speaker 1: championships and the Super Bowl. That made you smile, Mikey,
Speaker 1: you like that one? You want to do that? I
Speaker 1: love it? All right, we'll do a lifestyle show as well, right,
Speaker 1: I have I have a feeling that Mike's lifestyle is
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot to do with his gastro intestinal track. Well,
Speaker 1: part of it is restaurants too, that's the whole point. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well that's part of life style, right, that's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. Um So we look forward to that. But
Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to the both of you, and happy Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: to everybody listening to the show today. I'll get the
Speaker 1: teasers under you know, under wraps. I'll be taught by
Speaker 1: the end of this. We appreciate you listening about Mike.
Speaker 1: What about Mike and seven? Maybe Mike too, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. Long stretch here, five games to
Speaker 1: go with a regular season, we'll do that and the
Speaker 1: playoffs of course. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. Enjoy your families
Speaker 1: as much as you can before you get sick of them. Perhaps,
Speaker 1: good luck with all your picks. Week thirteen in the
Speaker 1: NFL and beyond. Thank you so much for listening. Sat