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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: the thirt oil change, the diagnosis to nowhere, which actually

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Speaker 1: He must need air conditioning in Florida today. Stanley, how

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Speaker 1: Do you have a wiring diagram for this car, Stanley? Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: Doctor show dot com, all right, and I'll be glad

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Speaker 1: the car doctor here at five zero zero. Let's get

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Speaker 1: over to Aaron in Massachusetts. What's going on with this

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Speaker 1: eleven Nissan? Aaron? Welcome to the car doctor. How can

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Speaker 1: I help? Thanks for having mer on. I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I've got the uh two thousand eleven Nissan Ultima,

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Speaker 1: the two point five liter four cylinder. UM. Basically, what's happens?

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Speaker 1: I'm getting a P zero four four two, which is

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Speaker 1: a small evap week um, so you know, right off

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Speaker 1: the bat okay, common you know, check the gas cap.

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Speaker 1: It was cheap, enop. I just replaced it because it's

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Speaker 1: it's a you know, ten year old, almost eleven year

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Speaker 1: old card miles. Okay. You know, rubber gas gets you know,

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Speaker 1: get old, brittle whatever. So for you know what changed

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Speaker 1: It's smooth and clean that's smooth. It's real nice, shiny

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Speaker 1: even honestly, the gas the gas cap looks fine. I

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Speaker 1: So that didn't help to clear the code. UM, I drive.

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Speaker 1: I don't know a while UM code comes back. UM.

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Speaker 1: So I I go through you know, okay, let's let's

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Speaker 1: test the canstor uh event sole anoid. I can command

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Speaker 1: does you does your smoke machine show flow? It does

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Speaker 1: flow meter. So how do you know the system is sealed?

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Speaker 1: If I guess you're looking for smoke, is what they're

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Speaker 1: sure that wasn't you know, that was working properly? Commanded

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Speaker 1: Now I get awesome gas mileage. So a tank lasted

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Speaker 1: me about five thirty miles UM, so around right around

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Speaker 1: the readiness check, my readiness monitors, they're all passed. Again.

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Speaker 1: I still have the check enginelight on, but the EVAPP

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Speaker 1: It's not that the EVAP has passed. First of all,

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Speaker 1: did you go to high school? Yes? Did you what

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Speaker 1: Did you complete every test? Yes? Did you pass every test?

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Speaker 1: Did you pass every time? So you know the scan

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Speaker 1: tool companies use a wrong terminology when you're looking at

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Speaker 1: them use pass, fail, some of them use yes no,

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Speaker 1: All right, it's it's did you complete the test? Yes?

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Speaker 1: it's set a fault or if it turned the light on,

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Speaker 1: or a combination of both. So you know understand that

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Speaker 1: is my is my motto unless unless it's making sense.

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Speaker 1: If it's not making sense, the tools lying to you,

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Speaker 1: so go back again. The uh AN evapp monitor bio

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Speaker 1: b D two principle will not run when there's more

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Speaker 1: keep filling the car up every time it hits three

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Speaker 1: incomplete anymore. I could be wrong, but I I don't

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Speaker 1: think they they do allow anything to be incomplete. Of

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Speaker 1: about a year ago, they revamped the test the test company,

426
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: and it was it was a headache with with trying

427
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: to get stuff, uh to pass. But but either way,

428
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: either way, but I want to see I want to

429
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: see how that affects the people driving the older cars anyway.

430
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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, so so I think where your flaw

431
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: is and you're testing is solid. But where your flaw

432
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: is without a flow meter, all you're doing is mechanically

433
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: checking and electrically checking, vent and purge open clothes, smoke,

434
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: no smoke all if there's a leak somewhere in the system,

435
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: and and and and a four or four two is

436
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: a leak less than twenty thousands of an inch you're

437
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: looking for something smaller than the half the thickness of

438
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: a head of hair on your head. All right, so

439
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: why don't we do this? Turn the key on, close

440
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: the vent? Can you close the vent in the purge?

441
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: Put the system into an evapp based service test or

442
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: a sealed state. All right? And if you turn smoke on,

443
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: watch the fuel tank pressure sensor. A smoke machine should

444
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: should produce roughly less. It's about a pound of pressure.

445
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: It's not a lot, but you should see the fuel

446
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: tank pressure sensor off the scan tool change state. It

447
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: will likely go up. I believe it'll show a voltage increase.

448
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: All right, as as as as pressure goes up, and

449
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: then stop the smoke machine and does does the tank

450
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: pressure hold? And if the tank pressure or holds, then

451
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: we can have a different conversation. If the tank pressure

452
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Speaker 1: doesn't hold, then at least you know for sure you're

453
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: looking for a leak. And if you want to prove

454
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: as the tank pressure sensor showing you something real, take

455
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: the gas cap off. You should see an instantaneous loss

456
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Speaker 1: of system pressure. Now that being said, watch how much

457
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: smoke you pump into this system. You know older systems.

458
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm always cautious because smoke is a petroleum based product,

459
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: and you're now pumping petroleum product into something with a

460
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: canister that you'll oversaturate the canister with smoke from the

461
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Speaker 1: smoke machine, So you want to use it judiciously. Last thought,

462
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: last thought ultimates. I would look at the I would

463
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: look very carefully at the fuel filler neck, make sure

464
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: there's no rust and corrosion, looking for a pinhole, all right,

465
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: and then take the line off the purge valve, electrically

466
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: disconnect the purge valve. Start the car and disconnect the

467
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Speaker 1: purge valve line. Put your finger. Put your finger over

468
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: the purge valve. Do you feel suction? I've done that

469
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: and I don't. Okay, Um, then you've got it. You're

470
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: you're on this. You're you're close, all right, the kid.

471
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: The key I would want to know is and here's

472
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: where I would want to know. That's why I'm saying.

473
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: The fuel tank pressure sensor test will tell you. If

474
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Speaker 1: this was in the shop, i'd be looking at the

475
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: flow meter. If I had an intermittent like this, I

476
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: would I would be paying very close attention to vent

477
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: and purge fuel filler neck. And then at that point

478
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: I would have to probably break out the five gas

479
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: and start sniffing around the fuel tank them and lines

480
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: for for leaks that I can't see by smoke. Okay.

481
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: And what other thing that that's also throwing me for

482
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: a loop is I don't I don't drive on the

483
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: highway very much just because you know, if I'm going

484
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: out with the family and the kids and take my

485
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: my wife's Lexus, you know, so I just drive this

486
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: to work. Um, you know, I try and get this

487
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: good gas mileage. So I never really you know, romp

488
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: on the throttle. But I've noticed when I taken it,

489
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, up to New Hampshire, you know, I take

490
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: it on a ride on the highway and really get

491
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: on it. Um, it will clear the check engine light,

492
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: which boggles me because under you know, you have most

493
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: vacuum under IDOL. Correct, Well, don't look at it like that,

494
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: Yes you do, but don't look at it like that.

495
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: You just have to be hitting a point where the

496
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: evapp monitor runs again. I gotta remember every time that

497
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: if that monitor runs X number of times, at some

498
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: point it will clear the light. It won't clear the code.

499
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: The code clears after thirty th attempts, and I believe

500
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Speaker 1: are the lights going to clear after for a conversation's sake? Uh? Six?

501
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: And the code will clear after thirty But and it's

502
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: different for every year making model. I never try to

503
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: keep that in my head. It's an average approximation. UM,

504
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: so don't let that throw you, all right? Do those

505
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: things call me back? Fix this all right? Brother? Well

506
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: do I appreciate time, Ron, love the show, Thank you, sir.

507
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: You'd be well, I'm run on any of the Car Doctor.

508
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away, welcome back,

509
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: running end the Car Doctor. Eight five zero zero is

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Speaker 1: the phone number. That's seven. You can call that number

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Speaker 1: to to four pm on the network. We will put

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Speaker 1: you in the queue for the next live broadcast. Just

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Speaker 1: leave a message, tell us where we can find you,

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00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: and we will find you. And um we'll get you

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00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: up here and we'll solve your car problem because that's

518
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: what we do and have been doing for the past

519
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Speaker 1: thirty one years. Let's go to Jeremy and Connecticut and

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Speaker 1: let's see what's going on. Here, jeremy. Welcome to the

521
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: car doctor. How can I help? Hi? Thank you, you're welcome. Well,

522
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: I concisely as I can. I have a clatter problem,

523
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: a very loud clatter problem with a three O two

524
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: in a seventy Mustang convertible. And I'm getting ready to

525
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: sell this car, so it's it's very annoying. Obviously I've

526
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: got to get it fixed to get the best price

527
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: on it. Let me tell you briefly what has already

528
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: been done. Originally it sounded like lifters. It has hydraulic lifters.

529
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: So my mechanic is very good. He's probably um, you know,

530
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: it's late thirties. He's he's uh, pretty sharp and uh,

531
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: so what we did is the following. He replaced all

532
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: the lifted Well, first off, he identified the clatter as

533
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: coming from the first cylinder on the passenger side as

534
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: you look at the motor, and so he pulled the

535
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: valve cover off and immediately discovered that two of the

536
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: rockers on that cylinder were off right off the valves

537
00:30:54,320 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: and uh and those um push rods were end so

538
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: that cylinder wasn't even firing. It ran fine, but it

539
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: was making that noise. So go ahead. Yeah. So what

540
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: he did was he replaced, he took the head off,

541
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: He replaced all the lifters, and one of those lifters

542
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: in that cylinder was stuck. Okay. And he said he

543
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: looked at the can the best he could through whatever

544
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: hole you can inspect it through. I'm not familiar with it.

545
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure you are. And he said it looked fine. Okay.

546
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: So all the lifters on that side were replaced, all

547
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: of the push rods and go and four rockers and

548
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: h the when he put it all back together, h

549
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: new gaskets and everything. Um, it starts right up, runs fine,

550
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: but the clatter is they're just as loud as ever. Okay.

551
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: So first question, has he looked at it running? Does

552
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: he see oil coming out the top of the rock

553
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: or through the push rod? I don't know, but I'm

554
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: sure he would have said that unless he doesn't unless

555
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: and I'm not picking on him, but unless he doesn't

556
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 1: know the test. So first first rule of thumb. All right,

557
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: let's pop the let's pop the valve cover off, started up,

558
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: lead it idle. Now we're not looking for a flood.

559
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: We're looking for, you know, a nice, steady, little puddle

560
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: of oil coming up out of the push rod to

561
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: keep the top of the rocker pivot lubricated. All right,

562
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: that's number one. This particular ford head has individual rockers. Correct,

563
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: this is not a shaft motor. Did you see this?

564
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: You're right? Okay, So we're we're looking for oil coming

565
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: out of each individual push rod. That's number one. If

566
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: by some chance, and I don't think this will be

567
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: the case, but if by some chance you see oil

568
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: coming out at full force, like it's gonna shoot oil

569
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: over the fender of the car, you've got to You've

570
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: got a stuck lifter, possibly debris in the oil galley.

571
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: Don't be afraid to assume that you know that the

572
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: lifter is stuck open, and that's why it's pushing oil

573
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: so fast and possibly contributing to the noise. Um. I'll

574
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: tell you what, Sit right, tight, Sit tight a minute, Jeremy.

575
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: Let me let me pull over and take this take

576
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: take a pause, and we'll finish up when we come back.

577
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm run a nee of the car. Doctor. Don't anybody

578
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: go anywhere. Welcome back around the in the car, doctor, Jeremy, Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: You're still there, sir, correct, So so let me ask

580
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: let me ask this question, and I failed to do this.

581
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: Is this a stock motor? Yes, okay, and as I know,

582
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: I've had it for thirteen years, but I don't know

583
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: what and right, But it wasn't a case where you

584
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: modified something, put it together and you had this clatter.

585
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: You've been using it, however, sparingly, and then all of

586
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: a sudden this noise developed out of the blue. Okay,

587
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: So first I'm back to my first statement. I want

588
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: to know what I want to know if I've got

589
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: oil dribbling up out of the push rod feeding the rocker,

590
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: all right, that's just really important. This is a did

591
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: you see this head when when the valve cover was off?

592
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: This is a bolt through the rock a arm clamping

593
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: it down to the headstyle, correct, yes, okay, make sure

594
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: I did not see it with the head off. That's okay,

595
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: that's okay. Make sure make sure the fulcrum isn't damage

596
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: that the rocker arm sits on, because my first question

597
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: would be why the push rods fall out? Yeah right, damn? Right?

598
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: Is the fulcrum damage that the rocker arm pivots on?

599
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: All right? Why did the push rods fall out? Okay?

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00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: Last thing is I'm gonna tell you, if you've got

601
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: oil shoot and over the fender on this car, don't

602
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: be afraid to take a little rubber mallet gently and

603
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: tap the top of the rocker in order to try

604
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: and reseat the plunger. Maybe there's debris in the lifter

605
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: galley and that's what's holding the lifter up, although that

606
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: would just prevent cause high oil pressure, not necessarily cause

607
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: it the clatter. You got some tested to do and

608
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: then call me back. I'm on an Adian. The car

609
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: doctor're reminding you. Mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you