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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio guys.

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Speaker 2: We are joined by Nancy from The Golden Bachelor. She's

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Speaker 2: here to recap the Golden Bachelor ratte with us today

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Speaker 2: and she happens to be at Susan you know, iconic

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Speaker 2: Susan's house right now, along with Kathy.

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Speaker 3: Are they ever a part?

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Speaker 2: Never?

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Speaker 3: And there's something fun going on.

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Speaker 2: I suppose I won't wrap them out on it, but

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Speaker 2: there's something going on that they.

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Speaker 3: Will soon reveal very well. Put okay, a great reveal

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Speaker 3: is coming.

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Speaker 4: We reveal is coming. Stay tuned, hierld.

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Speaker 2: Nancy, we are here to talk about this episode that

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Speaker 2: is very crucial because it's the one in which Joan

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Speaker 2: decides who's going to hometowns. This is where the Golden

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Speaker 2: series feels too fast for me. I'm like, you've got

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Speaker 2: on one date with each of these guys, which I

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Speaker 2: guess is typical on the main show, but I just

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Speaker 2: feel like you have a few more weeks of group

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Speaker 2: dates and such, and she's going to go meet these guys' families.

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Speaker 2: Who did you predict or did you know? I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: you're totally spoiled because you the Golden Ladies more than

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Speaker 2: any other. I feel like you guys are bonded in

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Speaker 2: a way that all the news travels very fast. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: so you knew these guys that were coming. So did

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Speaker 2: you watch the season differently knowing this?

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Speaker 4: No, I really I didn't know until more recently. I

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Speaker 4: thought that we would that there might be I knew

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Speaker 4: like the final four, you know, and then I knew

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Speaker 4: there was some really close connections. But last night was different.

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Speaker 4: But I did think that it would be guy.

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Speaker 2: Actually, so you thought that guy was going to be

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Speaker 2: sticking around or you thought that he would be eliminating that.

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Speaker 4: He was going to be sticking around. I thought they

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Speaker 4: had a connection, and did I know?

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Speaker 3: And Pascal, Yeah, And I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just didn't see knowing they had a connection on

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Speaker 4: their one on one.

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Speaker 3: Dates like now I understands, I didn't see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't see the connection me neither. Joan said

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Speaker 4: we have a connection. I have a connection with several

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Speaker 4: of them, which I think she did.

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Speaker 1: But.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't visible to me other than chalk.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so same.

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Speaker 2: I can feel it a little bit with Jordan and

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Speaker 2: that and with Pascal. I think that there is something

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Speaker 2: intriguing about him to her, I am shocked if you

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Speaker 2: were to go back to the first episode and tell

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Speaker 2: me that Pascal is getting a hometown, Like, wow, they

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Speaker 2: did not seem like compatible based on first impressions. I

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Speaker 2: think he's hilarious and I like, I love him as

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Speaker 2: a character.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it is so fun to hang out with, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but guy is this shocker to me in

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Speaker 2: this group? And I really thought he would be replaced

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Speaker 2: by Jonathan. Really disappointed to see Jonathan go me too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was one of my favorites.

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Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, yeah, But I also sensed on their date

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago that she just wasn't fully

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Speaker 4: I also felt that way last night with Keith and Mark.

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Speaker 2: With Keith and oh, I mean Keith and Mark, clearly

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Speaker 2: she had she didn't have a romantic connection with.

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Speaker 4: Huh uh no at all. No, And she said I

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Speaker 4: love you Mark.

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Speaker 2: Well, she's been saying I love you a lot too,

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Speaker 2: like as humans. You know, she was saying that to

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Speaker 2: Charles last week, so I remember them teasing that, you know,

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Speaker 2: in the scenes from the next episodes that she said

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Speaker 2: the season when I wasn't seeing them, click was thinking,

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Speaker 2: I bet you that's one of her platonic I love yous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well let's get into the episode a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So first, Trista is having a coffee chat with her,

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Speaker 2: so we actually have Trista on the podcast to give

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Speaker 2: all the insight that she experienced. But Joan, so that's

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Speaker 2: gonna be in a separate episode also aired today, So

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Speaker 2: if you want to hear about, you know, the real

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes of the coffee chat and what Trista

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Speaker 2: picked up on, make sure to listen to that. So

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Speaker 2: let's skip on to Keith's one on one. It's the

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Speaker 2: Descartes says, I want to love that gets better with

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Speaker 3: But I'm glad, I'm really glad that he got the

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Speaker 2: Eventually, on Keith's date, there's not a lot to take

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Speaker 2: away from She was obviously very emotionally shook by the

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Speaker 2: fact that the couple who owned the winery was married

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Speaker 2: for thirty two years, and that's how long she married for.

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Speaker 2: I knew the second they said thirty two. I was like,

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Speaker 2: and she couldn't keep it in, and I'm glad. I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously you shouldn't keep it in. How would you've react

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Speaker 4: It probably would have. Of course, it's going to be

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Speaker 4: this long, you're still thinking about it. But what I

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Speaker 4: was hoping with this season, especially last episode and tonight's

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Speaker 4: episode or episode, is that they would be moving forward

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Speaker 4: in a hopeful like not concentrating on oh I lost

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Speaker 4: were married, we did this. There seems to be more

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Speaker 4: concentration on discussing these things. So it's sad, Yeah, more

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Speaker 4: sad or that's that was what I took away from it.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that she thinks about him more when

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Speaker 2: she's on a date with somebody who maybe she's not

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Speaker 2: connecting with obviously, like Keith, Yeah, Like I don't know

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Speaker 2: that she would do that on a date with say, Chuck.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, true, but they've talked about it, and I guess

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Speaker 4: in this season they go on more one on one

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Speaker 2: Right, Wait a second, on your show, did you have

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Speaker 2: mostly group dates one on one group date?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Oh see I enjoy watching one on one dates better,

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Speaker 2: what about you?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, because then you at least get to know the person.

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Speaker 4: You get to know them as a little more as

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Speaker 4: a couple on how they interact. They did six one

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Speaker 4: get We don't know. Do you know anything else about

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Speaker 4: Keith other than his wife was an addict and he

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Speaker 3: Now, what did stick out to me about this was that.

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Speaker 2: The girls haven't seen their mom in over twelve years.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: So that's like even more intense than I would imagined.

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Speaker 2: He really has been a single parent.

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Speaker 4: Jon's very compassionate and that comes across. But it's like

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Speaker 4: they were stuck on that and it was hard to

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Speaker 4: on a hopeful you know it wasn't progressing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I again think that she talks about the past

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Speaker 2: and not connecting. Yeah, it's easy to like tell your

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Speaker 2: you know, go back and tell your story rather than

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Speaker 2: sure talk about like things you're into today, because that's

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Speaker 2: just that needs to roll. That's a conversation that rolls

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Speaker 2: instead of it's just different. Okay, So we leave that

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Speaker 2: Keith date pretty much thinking Keith's probably not getting a hometown,

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Speaker 2: but he did recover from last week where he just

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So on the group date, they go to Lucky Strike

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Speaker 2: and the standout here is that Chock is stealing Joing

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Speaker 2: away a lot, which you know, we always have a

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Speaker 2: storyline on someday on some season that somebody is like

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Speaker 2: hogging time.

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Speaker 3: You guys can always butt in, you know, It's.

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Speaker 2: Just like you can always be like, Okay, my turn,

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Speaker 2: It's fine, that's like what you're supposed to do. But

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Speaker 2: the guys were like, he should be respectful enough to

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, I don't know that's not how

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Speaker 4: Up, but I could have elbowed their way in exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They thought though that her body language was all

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Speaker 2: like cuddled up to him. I thought her body language

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Speaker 4: She was, you know, like with her arms crossed over

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I totally agree. I didn't. She wasn't leaning in.

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Speaker 2: He was around her his arm exactly, yeah, and her

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Speaker 3: It was all off.

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Speaker 2: I think she felt uncomfortable him doing that in front

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Speaker 4: From what we've seen.

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Speaker 3: I thought thought it was also weird that he said, like, so,

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Speaker 4: Come away with me or I'll take you.

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Speaker 2: Away yeah, or like can I have you now or

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Speaker 2: whatever that is. I was like, Okay, cute, but also

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Speaker 4: I thought he was a little overbearing. Yeah, in the

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Speaker 4: just in the episode last night, but I think, gosh,

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Speaker 4: I wish I had a guy who was doing that

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Speaker 4: to me, like he really you know, he's going after it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's he's making serious moves to get there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think totally agree.

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Speaker 2: All right, So on Mark's one on one, I went

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Speaker 2: I thought this was maybe going to be the day

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Speaker 2: in which she like had to let somebody go on

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Speaker 2: the date. I think the of course, the only reason

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Speaker 2: she didn't do that was because once she didn't have

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Speaker 2: a row, so she didn't have to make that decision

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Speaker 2: right then and there, right, And secondly, I don't think

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Speaker 2: she was going to like dump like dump him after

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Speaker 2: their conversation about their you know, late spouses.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: I also wonder if because it was Kelsey's.

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Speaker 3: Dad, yeah, just the thought he got some benefits.

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Speaker 4: Because it was helped Kelsey's dead. She didn't want to

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Speaker 3: Maybe, you know, if they could be.

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Speaker 4: That grost ceremony just because it is Kelsey's dead.

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Speaker 2: I think that there's like lots of dates in which

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Speaker 2: moments of silence that we saw between the two of

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's super awkward.

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Speaker 2: I think that they end up showing those moments on

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Because they're like nine hour dates,

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Speaker 2: there are going to be sometimes pauses, especially when you're

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Speaker 2: He literally used this as a catapult into what could

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Speaker 2: And I don't think the bachelor will be Pascal. He

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Speaker 4: He would be good TV.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, again, if there's a Bachelor in Paradise for y'all,

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Speaker 3: How do you see Do you see a Bachelor in

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Speaker 4: I hope so, although I can't see, you know, all

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Speaker 4: In visits Paradise or something.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be like an aspen or like it's gonna

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Speaker 4: Right, that's a great idea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but still occasiony locale.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay, Nancy, you led me into a fun question.

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Speaker 3: It would be on your list who would you want

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Speaker 2: Who would you tell the producers that you're like, I

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Speaker 4: Would love to see.

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Speaker 4: Or gorgeous and and that's really good heart. I mean

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jonathan also just like a gentle man.

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Speaker 3: And what what what a looker Jordan?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't know, you know, I don't

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Speaker 3: Who, Yeah, because you know things.

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Speaker 4: I know just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so like we don't have to outside the top

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Speaker 4: Guy, Well, no, not guy. I thought Charles was amazing.

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Speaker 3: Oh what a cute Even Suity.

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Speaker 4: America loves him.

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Speaker 3: He's a reason we need to have a spin off.

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Speaker 4: Exactly because you know what he gave you hope. He

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Speaker 4: when Charles left, you could see that he said I'm

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Speaker 4: ready to date. He hadn't dated anybody. It was so

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Speaker 2: I would say that Charles and Mark stood out to

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Speaker 3: The next day, my dad's taking poison.

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Speaker 3: The Rose ceremony.

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Speaker 2: I think it was obviously a good idea. I think

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Speaker 2: I agree, And also he gets I think the courtesy

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Speaker 4: Definitely, I also think he was shocked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, seeing his face change from being like

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Speaker 3: It was really sad.

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Speaker 4: He had just gone in and talked to the guys.

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Speaker 4: I know, Oh it was great and I can see

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: And I think he when she came in and said, hey,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 4: He done on his face. Yeah, who do you see?

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Speaker 4: Is the next Bachelor? Or am I allowed to ask.

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Speaker 3: You that you're allowed to ask me that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 2: I definitely see it as being Mark. I'm a little

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Speaker 2: worried that he just might not be ready. I know

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Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: And I could also see it being Jonathan, because you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he did. We could talk to him about

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Speaker 2: it whenever we get him on here. That like, within

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Speaker 4: I bet he did. I bet he did all the

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Speaker 4: in the moment, I still think he was taken aback when.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the moment, you're totally in love.

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Speaker 4: Nancy came here, you have something in your retainer. No way,

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Speaker 4: I was not, and I was quiet, which back to Mark,

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Speaker 4: I know he's more soft spoken than some of the men.

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Speaker 4: I think there's nothing wrong with that, but I also

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you think that they were like, Okay, I we

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Speaker 4: Right right, because I think it would have been pretty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if that means he's not ready

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Speaker 3: He might just be a quiet guy. He's cute. He's

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Speaker 4: He's cute.

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Speaker 3: Rose ceremony.

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Speaker 2: This is where we see Jonathan, which we already said

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that she walked.

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Speaker 2: Him out too, and they had that little conversation. I

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Speaker 4: They had I I could see their connection you.

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Speaker 3: Can see connection with who with Jonathan and Joe, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and we both couldn't with Guy. So did you talk

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Speaker 2: Have I?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So and she and you said that she

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Speaker 4: She said, Pascal was fun, like, he's a fun guy.

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Speaker 4: Which, honestly, I think that's kind of a negative.

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Speaker 3: Different parts of life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in our age group, you meet somebody and they

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Speaker 4: this is about. Right in the golden part, you know,

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Speaker 4: the house is already established, You're in your community. Of course,

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Speaker 4: you're looking for love, and I do believe if you

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Speaker 4: meet the right person, you're going to make it work.

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Speaker 4: But you compromise. But I couldn't see him leaving Iowa

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Speaker 4: with younger children.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good point, And.

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Speaker 4: I think she was ready to move forward. I think

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Speaker 4: she's ready to find somebody and make a new life

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Speaker 4: with whether you have your house, his house and a

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Speaker 4: new house for the two of you, whatever. But I

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Speaker 4: think that's it's just a little obstacle having younger children.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point. I wish that was brought up

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Speaker 3: a little bit more. You could tell though from his.

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Speaker 2: Package earlier in the season that he had younger kids.

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Speaker 2: And then he showed the picture and you're like, that

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Speaker 2: picture is not.

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Speaker 3: Dated, right?

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Speaker 2: Did she get off the show and want to set

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Speaker 2: you up and play match Baker with the ladies.

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Speaker 4: I think she'd like to set all of us up.

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Speaker 4: You know, She's like, I would love for every of

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Speaker 4: all of us to make a connection. And I think

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Speaker 4: that's where she said, we've got to have some kind

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Speaker 4: of either you know, the Goldens visit Paradise, which would

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Speaker 4: be fun or but I don't want to be on

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Speaker 4: it would be funny. I think if the Goldens were

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Speaker 4: coming on to visit PA at Bachelor in Paradise with

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Speaker 4: these twenty five year olds, like, we're not gonna we

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Speaker 4: could give advice, right, or hey, who do you like?

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Speaker 2: Or well, you know how they have proms and stuff,

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Speaker 2: so you guys could be at one of the proms.

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Speaker 2: Then you have a mixer, right, But we would need

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Speaker 2: to follow your stories, so it needs see more of

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Speaker 2: than disappearance. I know.

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Speaker 4: I hope they do follow our story because we're all

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Speaker 4: in the same boat, and we all you know, went

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Speaker 4: through it, and you know, we would all still like

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Speaker 4: to find someone.

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Speaker 2: Have you mingled with any of the guys, because I

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Speaker 2: know that you know, on the main show, there's DM sliding,

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Speaker 2: there's even just like you meet each other at events

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Speaker 2: and at the live shows.

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Speaker 4: Right, and that hasn't happened yet.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh.

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Speaker 4: But I haven't met any of them yet. Okay, well,

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Speaker 4: actually that's not true. I met one of them.

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Speaker 3: Who's that.

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Speaker 4: I did meet one of them?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, you've met one of them? Maybe perhaps the

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Speaker 2: one that she ends up.

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Speaker 4: With just briefly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, perhaps, Nancy, where do you see the season going?

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Speaker 2: I know, you know some spoilers, So just give us

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Speaker 2: some vague some vague pleasantries.

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Speaker 4: I think I see some. I think there's going to

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Speaker 4: be some drama at the end. I mean, Mark wasn't drama,

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Speaker 4: you know, her letting him go, But I think it

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Speaker 4: was unexpected for all of us that he left and

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Speaker 4: Jonathan leaving. But I think there's more to come as

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Speaker 4: we get closer to the end, and I hope that

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Speaker 4: she finds her guy.

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Speaker 2: Can you say if she's happy now? And one of

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Speaker 2: the last time you spoke to her.

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Speaker 4: Was yes, she's very happy three days ago.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I speak with her.

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Speaker 4: And she lives twenty minutes we lived twenty yet art,

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Speaker 4: so it's we've actually become better friends since we left

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Speaker 4: the show.

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Speaker 3: Do you guys have like little girl dates and the DMV?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh nice, Okay, great, that's fun.

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Speaker 2: Well, like I've said, I need to do that. I

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Speaker 2: need to crash one of your girl dates. Where do

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Speaker 2: you I'm from Grade Falls, but I but but I'm

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Speaker 2: but I live in Rhode Island right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm home all the time you are. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like every like three weeks. People are like, why

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Speaker 2: do you go home so much? I'm like, because I

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Speaker 2: love my family.

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Speaker 4: Perfect, you can come over.

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Speaker 3: Okay, sounds good? All righty well, Nancy, thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for coming on. And we hope that you find

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Speaker 3: somebody from her group of guys. Okay, we're rooting for this.

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Speaker 2: I can see you're really hot with Jonathan. You guys

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Speaker 2: just look at together. I'm shipping it.

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Speaker 4: I love it. Okay, keep it and keep your you know,

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Speaker 4: if you hear anybody else any feelers out there, let

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Speaker 4: me know. Okay, well, okay, yeah, pleasure, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Bye, thank you.

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