1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, July twelfth, twenty twenty three. 2 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. But we're on 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: the clock in scott Fish Bowl thirteen. It's me and 4 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Random G Marcus Grant, joined by Michael F. Floyd. We're 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: in studios. We got Josh and Susie. Gets yourselves a 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: round of applause. Thank you, thank you. We were off 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: for a week. It feels like we have been gone 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: for ever. How have you spent the past week and 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: a half, two weeks? 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: I guess I had a Fourth of July little like barbecue. 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: You were in a good time that. Yeah, I had 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: a good time that day. And then besides that, I 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: joined the gym. So I've been going to the gym 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: a lot besides that, not a whole lot. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: I just took some time off. The wife and I 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: went to Vegas for the weekend. We've had a lot 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: more fun than me. 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: It was hot af sneaker con, a thing called sneaker 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: Con out there, which I didn't know about. She found 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: out about it and so we went, and I mean, 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: it's what you expect. It's it's a lot of people 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: selling you know, sneakers. 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: Did you have to buy tickets for it? 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, tickets. We're relatively cheap, though, okay, I'm like thirty 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: bucks to get in. The line to get in was ridiculous. 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: We may or may not have accidentally slipped in front 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: of a whole lot of people to get in there. Really, 28 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: there you go. 29 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: So the like, I've gotten into sneakers more recently the 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: last couple of years, but I feel like the whole 31 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: world has in the last Maybe it's just not noticing 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: it more, but I feel like in the last few 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: years it's just boomed even bigger. 34 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: I think it really has picked up the last few years. 35 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: And so I did pick up a couple of pairs that, 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, we'll probably make an appearance on Fantasy Live 37 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: this year. 38 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil them. You showed me them. 39 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: They are very nice. Thank you, Thank you. 40 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: So yes, if you had no other reason to watch 41 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Live, you can watch it to see what 42 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: shoes that I might have bought this past weekend in 43 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. But it's a good weekend until you know, 44 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: my flight got canceled on the way home. That's a 45 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: whole other story. For another time. We won't get into that. 46 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: We'll get into though, some interesting football news as we 47 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: get closer to the start of training camp. There are 48 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: some headlines that are going to have some interesting impacts 49 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: I think across the world of fantasy. Also, a scott 50 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: Fish Bowl thirteen updated is sort of the big event 51 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: going on in the fantasy community right now, So we'll 52 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: kind of do a little bit of a vibe check 53 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: on SFB thirteen and a little bit of strategy. Best 54 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: Ball drafts have been going on for a while. We're 55 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: gonna start getting into managed league drafts coming up very 56 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: very soon, so we'll talk about a little bit of 57 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: strategy differences between the two formats there. And it's the 58 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: return of Florio's Film Festival. We watched Armageddon. 59 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: We didn't enjoy it. 60 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it was rough. We'll get into that. We'll 61 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: get into that at the end of the show, but 62 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: let's start with a few news headlines, including one that 63 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: popped up literally about half an hour before we started 64 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: recording this show. This was a tweet from originally from 65 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: Diana Receip of ESPN. It says Saquon Barkley has made 66 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: it clear the franchise tag is undesirable. I'm told his 67 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: availability for Week one against the Dallas Cowboys will be 68 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: in serious question if he does not get a long 69 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: term deal from the Giants. Now, the deadline for him 70 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: getting that long term deal is Monday. It's July seventeenth, 71 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: I believe, four o'clock Eastern. 72 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: So why does week one and Monday like that? 73 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just know that according to the 74 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: way the franchise tag rules work, the deadline to get 75 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: a long term deal done is July seventeenth, So the 76 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: Giants are very much on the clock. If Saquon really 77 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: is threatening to sit out if he doesn't get a 78 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: long term deal, you know, I mean, are we worried 79 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: now about about drafting Saquon? 80 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: I laughed because I thought the expectation was, like, it's 81 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: week two, he has to get it signed by or whatever, 82 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: Like you have no lev if you have until Monday 83 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: and you're threatening something two months from now. But I'm 84 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: worried a little bit about this situation, and not just 85 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: with Saquon, with Josh Jacobs as well, who's in the 86 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: exact same situation. Like Tony Pollard signed the franchise tag. 87 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: He's good. We don't have to worry about him. The other two, 88 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: they've both kind of talked about holding out, and they've 89 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: both they're trying to make themselves I guess martyrs in 90 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: a way saying like, we're doing this for running backs 91 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: of the future, which I understand they have to do 92 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: because the position has been completely devalued. But what I 93 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: have done. I originally had Saquon and Jacobs both in 94 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: my top five. They're not in there anymore. Now I 95 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: have Nick Chubb ahead of them. I have Tony Pollard 96 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: ahead of Josh Jacobs. I'm considering putting, so I have 97 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: Saquon six, Pollard seven, Jacobs eight. I considering even bumping 98 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 2: Pollard up ahead of Saquon. 99 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I mean, I think it's just it is 100 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: a little bit worrisome at this point. I know a 101 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: lot of times we're in July and guys say they're 102 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: gonna hold out or whatever. Usually those guys are under contract, 103 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: and you feel like, okay, well, you know, fines will 104 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: start happening, they're gonna miss game checks, something's going to 105 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 1: bring them in. This feels a little bit different because, 106 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, I mean a lot of these running 107 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: backs are starting to sort of ban together, you know, 108 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: for the sake of the position and the salaries. Josh Jacobs, 109 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, is one Saquan is here. I mean, look, 110 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: we're still in a situation where Dalvin Cook, Ezekiel Elliott, 111 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette, those guys haven't gotten offers yet. So I 112 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: mean we're talking about significant names that are either on 113 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: the market or unhappy with what's being offered to them, 114 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: and talking about sitting out. Now. I know there's a 115 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: school of thought where people are like, you know, whatever 116 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: running backs are replaceable, you know. 117 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: Yell, Let's see how the Giants offense looks without saqua exactly. 118 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: How do the Giants look without Saquon? How do the 119 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: Raiders look without Josh Jacobs? He was he was the 120 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: offense for them. 121 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: Last one hundred percent of their rushing touchdowns and eighty 122 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: percent of their rushing yards. 123 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Came from Josh Jacobs. So sure, I'm sure the Giants 124 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: or the Raiders can find another body to put back there. Absolutely, 125 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: those guys aren't going to be as productive as what 126 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: they got out of their two front line backs. So 127 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: it is a major issue for those offenses, and I 128 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: think for anyone drafting I think you at least have 129 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: to consider it, right. I don't think we're completely fading 130 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: Sa Kwan yet. We're not completely fading Josh Jacobs yet. 131 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: But as they say, bleep is about to get real, 132 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: and we're gonna find out probably Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning, 133 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: like how real things are with these two players. 134 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: And I understand the logic of like not giving running 135 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: backs super long term deals and all of that, but 136 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: there's exceptions to the rules, like, yeah, I wouldn't want 137 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: to be paying Alexander Madison a bunch of money right now, 138 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: but the Giants' backup option unless they go out and 139 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: they sign a Dalvin Cook or Fournette or Zeke or 140 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: whatever is Matt Brida, that'd be like saying, well, the 141 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: Vikings don't need to pay justin Jefferson. They have kJ 142 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: Osborne on the rust, like it just doesn't work now. 143 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: And I think and I think there's there's a shift 144 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: coming in the way that that people are thinking, because 145 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: I think now the conversation has focused on Okay, look, 146 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: as you said, you're not going to tie up a 147 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: ton of resources necessarily or for a long time in 148 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: a running back because the position is so fragile guys 149 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: get hurt all the time. But I think people are 150 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: also realizing that you have a lot of really talented 151 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: players there who aren't being paid probably what they're worth 152 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: for the work that they do. And on top of it, 153 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: you are discouraging future talent from playing the position. I mean, 154 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: if you're in college, if you're in high school, in 155 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: college and you're looking to go to the NFL, you're 156 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: looking around, You're like, m, I don't think I want 157 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: to be a running back because I'm getting beat up 158 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: and I'm not getting paid. 159 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: It didn't work out because of injuries, but the Niners 160 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: drafted a running back who took his first year off 161 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: to try to learn to play receiver. 162 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm blank, I know who you're talking about. 163 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: I thought that was going to be the future of 164 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: the position. I got very nervous so that happened. 165 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I think, I think, I think 166 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: the conversation is changing. I don't know that it's changing 167 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: how teams approach it, but I do think. I don't know. 168 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm just curious to see where this goes this offseason 169 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: and whether or not, you know, we see a change, 170 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: because you know, we say it all the time on 171 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: this show. We are a fan of guys getting paid, 172 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: and I think the guys who handle a big workload 173 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: and who take a pounding physically, I think deserve to 174 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: be sort of compensated for the work that they are doing. 175 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: Other running Back news, Alvin Kamara has pled no contest 176 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: to a lesser misdemeanor charge from the incident in Las 177 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: Vegas back in February where he is on camera assaulting someone. 178 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: So in one sense, it's sort of settled. I know, 179 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: it's the thing we'd been talking about is kind of 180 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: waiting to see what happened. So the case has basically 181 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 1: been settled. Kamara has to pay a certain amount of 182 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: think one hundred thousand dollars toward the victim's hospital bills. 183 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: He has made a public apology, so it's not gonna 184 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: be a felony, it's a misdemeanor. Instead, there is still 185 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: going to be a suspension coming very likely. I would say, 186 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: if you guys don't follow Drew Davenport on Twitter, you 187 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: should go do that. He does a very good job. 188 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: He is a lawyer, and he has a very good 189 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: job of sort of explaining what this could mean. In 190 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: his expectations for what suspensions could be, how it was 191 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: handled legally, et cetera, et cetera. But in terms of 192 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: what it means for us. Have you been drafting Kamara? 193 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: Will you draft Kamara? And how are you looking at it? 194 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I've been drafting Kamara, and yes I will continue 195 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: to draft he he keeps falling. It doesn't make any 196 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: sense to me. Like right now, on a certain Best 197 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: Ball site, his ADP is one oh three. Alvin Kamara 198 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: not a top one hundred pick at RB thirty three overall, 199 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: and some of the running backs going ahead of him, 200 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: Zach Sharbonay, Antonio Gibson, I do not understand that at all. 201 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: Like I love James Cook, He's going ahead of him, 202 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: I think. And the thing is, I understand people saying 203 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara isn't what he used to be, and I'm like, Okay, 204 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: is he still a top twenty running back? 205 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: Yes? 206 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: Am I gonna get him outside the top thirty in 207 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: the eighth or ninth round. Yeah, And I understand he 208 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: might not finish, he might finish somewhere around RB thirty, 209 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: But I think that's the wrong way of looking at it. 210 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: And I learned from my mistake last year with DeAndre Hopkins. 211 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: I was like, this guy's getting drafted as wide receiver thirty. 212 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: He's gonna miss six games. No way he's gonna live 213 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: up to that. And he finished wide receiver forty seven, 214 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: but when he played, he was the wide receiver nine 215 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 2: on a per game basis. So that's all I care about. 216 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: I don't care about the suspension, and I don't want 217 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 2: to guess two four six, whatever it might be. If 218 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara could be anywhere close to Alvin Kamara for 219 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: me come the fantasy playoffs, he's going to greatly increase 220 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: my odds of winning a championship, and that's what I 221 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: care about. 222 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: But I do think the ADP has to do with 223 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: people trying to guess what the suspension number was going 224 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: to be, just because there was a lot of uncertainty 225 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: if he was going to be you know, if he 226 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: was gonna have to go to trial, if he was 227 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: facing a shellow. I know there are some people who thought, 228 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, a full season suspension was possibly on the table. 229 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see what happens to his ADP 230 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: now that we have at least slightly more clarity. I 231 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: mean we're still waiting on the league office to sort 232 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: of make a statement and make a decision on what happens. 233 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: But I do think we have a little bit more clarity, 234 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: and I think that ADP will come up. I've been 235 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: drafting him. I've been taking shots at him. You know, 236 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: look kind of where the ADP has been, because I 237 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: feel like if I can get a couple of good 238 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: running backs, at least one solid running back, maybe two 239 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: solid running backs by the time he comes back, then 240 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: I look great at the position. 241 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: That's so my strategy has been receiver round one, running 242 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: back in round two, and then I probably won't take 243 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: another running back till because the round two value is 244 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: amazing right now at running back. But then I won't 245 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: probably take another one till like round seven or eight. 246 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: But if I could get like James Connor or James 247 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: Cook and pair them with Alvin Kamara, I'm like, I 248 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: just need one of those two guys to be an 249 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 2: RB two for me, and anything on top. 250 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: Of that is great. No. I completely completely agree the 251 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: other side of this, though, Kendram Miller was a guy 252 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: that I liked. I still like him because I think 253 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: early on in the season he's going to have an 254 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: impact and a chance to sort of establish himself. Does 255 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: this change how you view him at all. 256 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 2: I've been targeting him as more of a late round 257 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: like flyer, and I think that's where he belongs because 258 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: he will have a role as long as Alvin Kamara 259 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: is out. But I struggle to see how he's gonna 260 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: get consistent touches once Kamara is back. Because they paid 261 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 2: Jamal Williams, I think he has a role there. Kendre 262 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: Miller could be one of those players like if one 263 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: of those other two running backs miss his time late 264 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: in the season, I think he could be a league 265 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: winner potentially. He's got a lot of upside. But I 266 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: think his ADP is fair as like a RB four 267 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: right now. 268 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. No, I definitely think it's fair. 269 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: And for me, he has been very much a late 270 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: round sort of yo. Not maybe in the draft, but 271 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: sort of near the end of the draft. Set up 272 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: for me because you're right, once Kamara comes back, it's 273 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: gonna be hard for him to get on the field. 274 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: But I do think he's got, you know, an opportunity, 275 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: and look, if if something were to happen to Kamara, 276 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, if if he were to come back and 277 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: say get hurt, then again there's an opportunity for him there. 278 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, understanding that his his opportunities are going to 279 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: be limited probably through the midpoint of the season. In Denver, 280 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: Javonte Williams says he'll be quote ready to go for 281 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: training camp. There's been a lot of Javonte Williams chatter 282 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: on the timeline recently, and a lot of comparisons to JK. Dobbins, 283 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:36,119 Speaker 1: and on and on and on your expectations for Javonte 284 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: this season. 285 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm not very high on Javonte Williams. It's it's nothing 286 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: against him. It's the fact that in Week four he 287 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: didn't just tear his aco, he tore every ligament in 288 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: your knee that you could. It's it's a super severe 289 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: knee injury. And JK. Dobbins, I think is a good 290 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: example of but not for the way that he's being used. 291 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: I've seen people use him to prop up Javonte Williams 292 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: and I'm like, a year ago these quotes I expect 293 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: to be ready for week one was being said by JK. 294 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: Dobbins. 295 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: He was not ready for week one and he tore 296 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: his ACL in the preseason, not in Week fours. So 297 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: while I understand you know that, and we both loved 298 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: the Javonte Williams before he was hurt, I think he 299 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: is a great talent. I will be all over him 300 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: next year in drafts because I expect him to have 301 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: a little bit of a down year this year and 302 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: people maybe sour on him. You know that second year 303 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: bounce back from the ACL is usually a thing. But 304 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: right now I think Javonty I get the ADP is low, 305 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: but I think he's really really risky. 306 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: He is. That being said, I've drafted him a couple 307 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: of times, but I sort of have drafted him a 308 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: little bit the way I've been drafting Alvin Kamara, and 309 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: I get that the situations are obviously incredibly different, but 310 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: in the sense of, hey, look, maybe they ease him 311 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: back in and maybe it takes a few weeks for 312 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: him to sort of get back up to speed. I'm 313 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: not drafting him with the intention of, hey, look, I'm 314 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: gonna plug him in Week one and I'm gonna be 315 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: looking for twenty points a game. I'm drafting him with 316 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: the hope that, look, if I do it right and 317 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: I get a couple of guys ahead of him that 318 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: can keep me afloat. And if he does recover and 319 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: he is ready to go, say you know, look he 320 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: says he'll be ready to go for training camp if 321 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: he is up to full speed, say by week six, 322 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: then I feel okay about it. So it is you're right, 323 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: It is completely risky because it was an incredibly major 324 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: knee injury, so there is certainly risk involved. I have 325 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: really tried to just sort of cushion that risk as 326 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: much as possible by getting some insurance kind of around 327 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: him and seeing what happens there. 328 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: I do think if if he's one of those players 329 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: that if we see him in training camp looking like 330 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: his old self, his ADP is gonna climb it. 331 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: All we need is one video of him just making 332 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: a jump cut or something like that, and then everybody's 333 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: going to go berserk and the ADP is going to 334 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: go to the moon. 335 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: I think that's the one player I always associate with 336 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: the Rocket. 337 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: Ye oh yeah, because especially when we were like moment 338 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: Gordon's not coming back, it was it was insane the 339 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: way people felt about Javonte. Last headline here Jim Ersay 340 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: talking about Anthony Richardson saying quote, he has to play 341 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: to get better. Ers sort of couched it though by saying, look, 342 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: he expects that, you know, look right now, Gardner Minshew 343 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: could probably go out and be better than him in 344 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: Week one, but that he expects and hopes that Richardson 345 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: could be on the field to try and play his 346 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: way into the starting role and getting better there. Jim 347 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Ersay has been one who just you know, will speak 348 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: his mind, but it doesn't necessarily have any impact on 349 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: what happens on the field. Do you think Anthony Richardson 350 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: will be Indianapolis's starter in Week one? And does Ersay's 351 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: comments impact how you feel or how you may be 352 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,239 Speaker 1: drafting him. 353 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: Since they've drafted him. I've been on the Anthony Richardson 354 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: should be the Week one starter like and to borrow 355 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: a line from friend of the show Emery Hunt, what 356 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: can Anthony Richardson learn from watching a quarterback who he's 357 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: already better than? And no offense to Gardner Minshew, he's 358 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: a good backup. We saw him get exposed at times 359 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: last year when he had to start. Like, Anthony Richardson 360 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: is the future of this franchise. The only reason I 361 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: have a little bit of pause is because sometimes teams say, like, 362 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: we don't want to put all the Week one pressure 363 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: on the kid. I wouldn't be surprised if Minshew starts 364 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: Week one against the Jags, revenge game, narrative, all of that, 365 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: but Week two is against the Texans, Like, I feel 366 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: like that you want Anthony Richardson out there. That's a 367 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: competitive game, another rookie quarterback, a defense that could be exploited. 368 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: So I continue to heavily target Anthony Richardson in fantasy drafts. 369 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: I do think you have to pair him with another 370 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 2: safer quarterback. But if I was jim Irsay and the Colts, 371 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: I'd be like Gardner Minshew, hold this clipboard. If Anthony 372 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: Richardson is healthy, he's playing every single snap tack. 373 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, I just don't. I don't know what 374 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: you know what Richardson can can gain from watching Minshew. 375 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: They're very different quarterback different stylistically. I just don't. I 376 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: don't know that it makes sense for him to be 377 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: on the bench. And I don't have a problem with 378 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: drafting him because, like you said, you're you're probably not 379 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: drafting him to be your Week one QB one you 380 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: are drafting somebody else. So in fantasy at least you 381 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: know the Colts may feel differently, but at least in 382 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: fantasy you have the luxury probably to wait on on 383 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson a little bit. So I think I think 384 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, we'll get through training camp, 385 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: there will be some semblance of a competition there. I 386 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: think Anthony Richardson is going to be the starter in 387 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: week one. I think I think it's I think that's 388 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: what it's going to be. I know that you know 389 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: Ers mentioned he sort of compared loosely Richardson to Peyton 390 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: Manning in the sense that you know, Manning started as 391 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: a rookie and the Colts were bad that year. I 392 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: think they were three in pay Man. It was terrible. Yeah, 393 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, I think they were three and thirteen that 394 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: year if I have it right. Either way, they were 395 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: a bad team. The record win loss record was bad. Granted, 396 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's college career looked vastly different than Anthony Richardson's 397 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: college career. He was much more experienced, had played a 398 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: lot more football by the time he got to the 399 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: pros than Richardson has. But I think the point being that, look, 400 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: they shouldn't be afraid to throw a rookie starter into 401 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: the fire. I think is kind of what. 402 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: It is, very very different again, because he was the 403 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: prospect of a generation, like a generational like the best. 404 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: It's funny. I just realized that we always say the 405 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: prospect is the best since whoever the last quarterback Andrew 406 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 2: Luck played every game as a rookie as well. 407 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so obviously the cults are no stranger 408 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: to taking a rookie quarterback and plugging him in right away. 409 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens there. Turning our attention to 410 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: the SFB thirteen, if you have been on Twitter dot com, 411 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: you have seen, I'm sure people tweeting about it. You've 412 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: seen the hashtag, you have seen the rosters being put 413 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: it out there. I know there have been a couple 414 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: of live events. I had a chance yesterday to talk 415 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: to Chris Allen, who does a lot of great work 416 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: over at the Fantasy Life in other places. He was 417 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: at the live Cincinnati one. I know there's one in 418 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: Los Angeles this weekend. Are you going to ye? I 419 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: know Lakwan Jones is gonna be there. You gonna be 420 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: at the LA one. 421 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: I wanted to, but got some family in town this weekend. 422 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: So I just drag them along. Hey, you guys want 423 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: to go to a fantasy draft. 424 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think it's fun to bring 425 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: them to a scott Fishball draft. 426 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I won't be there either, but I'm looking forward 427 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: to the pictures on social media. The live draft seem 428 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: like they're gonna be a whole lot of fun. But 429 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: we are both drafting. I know your your draft got 430 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: off to a slow start. Things have picked up. How 431 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: far along are you right now? 432 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: We are in the middle. 433 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: Of the fourth round. Okay, what does the roster look like? 434 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: So I was picked twelve because I thought, let me 435 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: take advantage of this third round reversal. But then it's 436 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 2: a very long wait to your fourth pick. I have 437 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, Austin Eckler, and Nick Chubb so far. 438 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 1: Okay, so you've gotten running back heavy early in this draft. 439 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: I normally don't, but I looked at the scoring and 440 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: I was like, you get a quarter of a point 441 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 2: for a Carrie, you get a point for a catch. 442 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: Feels like Austin Eckler's cheat code there. Yeah, so I 443 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: took him, and then the elite receivers were all pretty 444 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: much gone when but Nick Chubb was still there, so 445 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, I think Nick Chubb's gonna get 446 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: plenty of work as. 447 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: Well, so yeah, it's not a bad way to go. 448 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: I sort of went the opposite way. We are midway 449 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: through round six in my draft, and I started. I 450 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: started with back to back quarterbacks where I went Jalen 451 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: Hurts into a tongue of Ioloa, which seems great until 452 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: I realized that they both have the same bye week, 453 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: so I have to take another quarterback a little bit later. 454 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: After that, I followed up with a mon Ross Saint 455 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: Brown Kyle Pitts in the fourth fingers crossed that it 456 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: comes through this year, Calvin Ridley in the fifth. Finally 457 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: took my first running back in the sixth round, where 458 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: I went JK. Dobbins. I like your team a lot, thanks, 459 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: sort of holding my breath on the Dobbins pick. We'll 460 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: see what happens. I think, because I went so pass 461 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: catcher and quarterback heavy early, I'm gonna have to go 462 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: very running back heavy sort of in the middle rounds 463 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: to try and throw a few darts and see if 464 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: I can get anything that sort of hits there. I 465 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: did sort of look at the fact, I mean, one 466 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: the tight end premium made me feel like I wanted 467 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: to get a tight end on the earlier side of things. 468 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: So that's why I went with Pitts in the fourth round. 469 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: The idea of, you know, a point for first down 470 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: is sort of interesting there. So I'm hoping that a 471 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: guy like A'mnra helps out Calvin Ridley. Just these guys 472 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: that are likely to get targeted on third downs when 473 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: their teams need to keep the chains moving. Hopefully that 474 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: sort of helps some things there. But I do like, 475 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: I mean, getting those running backs. I think a guy 476 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: like Nick Chubb, a guy like Austin Eckler, those guys 477 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: who who pick up the hard yards on third down, 478 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: I think are are useful. 479 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like my team is safe but boring. 480 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: Whereas your team, I feel like you have the safety 481 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: like Jalen Harricks is safe as it gets a quarterback 482 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: two of if he can stay healthy, has like huge 483 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: upside at receiver. A manra is super safe, I feel like. 484 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: But I love Calvin Ridley. I think he has a 485 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: lead winning upside. So and you know, I'm a sucker 486 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: for Kyle Pitts. So I really like the start you have. 487 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we found out sort of my accident, that our 488 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: PO Lakwan Jones, is maybe not a fan of Kyle Pitts, 489 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: which means we might have to excommunicate him for many 490 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: future visits to the show. I don't know how. I 491 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: don't know how. 492 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: You have to bring him on and just let let 493 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: us fight to the death. 494 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: Seriously, I don't know. I don't know how that slipped 495 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: through the cracks when we were vetting him. Next time 496 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: he comes on, I'm wearing my Kyle Pitched shirt. You 497 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: have to. There's just there's no there's no way around it. 498 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: I guess I should have mentioned I was drafting from 499 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: the number two spots, so that's how I that's that's 500 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: where I put together that to So, yeah, I took 501 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey went one dot one in mine, and I 502 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: took Jalen Hurts at the second pick there. Did you 503 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: have a particular strategy going into this. 504 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 2: I knew I wanted at least one quarterback with my 505 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: first two picks, but my plan was unless my draft, 506 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 2: because every one in these drafts is so different, unless 507 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: my draft didn't go quarterback heavy, Like if I could 508 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: have got two of the top eight quarterbacks, I would have, 509 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 2: But to me, Trevor Lawrence was the cut off there, 510 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: so I was just happy to get him. Uh And 511 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 2: at once like I was like, oh, I could take 512 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: to Shan Watson, but I was like, I'm gonna take 513 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: Austin Eckler over him. So that in super flex. That 514 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: seems to be a strategy that has worked for me, 515 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: not taking the second quarterback early and hoping to find 516 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 2: Like last year, I don't know if you remember one 517 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: league I went in with with Mariota and Ritter, Yeah, 518 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 2: and I was just like, all right, I'm hopefully hopefully 519 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: they run and because then when everyone else is taking 520 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: their second quarterback, you get a little bit of an 521 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: advantage at running back and receiver. But again, each one 522 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: of these drafts is completely different. 523 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I know. It's funny because in years past I 524 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: have gone running back early, and you know, usually am 525 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: at the top of the draft, I'll take a running 526 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: back and because it's superflex, by the time it gets 527 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: back to me, the quarterbacks have been so depleted. So 528 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: this year I decided, you know what, I'm gonna go 529 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: quarterback heavy early, take that worry off my plate completely, 530 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: and still feel like I can get some good pass 531 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: catchers in there. So I've gone I've kind of gone 532 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: sort of a zero r B thing where I didn't 533 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: like I said, I didn't get my first one and 534 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: two the sixth round. I know they're probably some zero 535 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,239 Speaker 1: RB truthers out there that are gonna yell that I'm 536 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: still taking one too early, but you know, so now 537 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and get some some running backs a 538 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: little further down the line here. Was there anything that 539 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: surprised you early in a coup? 540 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: Nothing crazy, but I was a little shocked to see 541 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson go ahead of Aaron Rodgers and Anthony Richardson. 542 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 2: And then equally as surprising to me was Najie Harris. 543 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: I guess it's volume chasing, but ahead of Josh Jacobs. 544 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: I I love Josh Jacobs if he plays, and I 545 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: really don't want anything to do with any Steelers. 546 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: I yeah, the Steelers really frightened me. Nagie Harris seems very, 547 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: very scary to me. The biggest surprise in mind easily 548 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: is Dalton Schultz going as the second tight end. What 549 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: third pick? Of the second round, and I don't know, 550 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: like I don't know if if someone fat fingered it 551 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: or if they just have a strong belief Dalton Schultz. 552 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: But Travis Kelce was the very first pick of the draft. 553 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: Not really a surprise there. Dalton Schultz goes at the 554 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: two dot three, three picks ahead of Mark Andrews. 555 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 2: No offense to whoever drafted him, But it was nice 556 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 2: playing like you. Literally, I don't even want to be 557 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: sound like I'm exactly like, I think you've given yourself 558 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: zero percent chance of winning because even if Dalton Schultz 559 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 2: is as good as you think he's going to be, 560 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: everyone else is gonna have him in like the seventh 561 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: or eighth round with a second round pick on their team. 562 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: So you're just behind the eight ball even if he's 563 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: as good as you. 564 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: Think it is. I mean, I'll say this, he's putting 565 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 1: together an interesting build with Christian McCaffrey first, Dalton Schultz second, 566 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry in the third round, got his first quarterback, 567 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones in the fourth, followed up with Kenneth Walker. 568 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: So very very running back heavy with Dalton Schultz and 569 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. 570 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 2: I hope he takes CJ. Stroud to complete the stat. 571 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,239 Speaker 1: I mean you might as well, right, you might as 572 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: well just just let that happen. I was laughing, and 573 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: I think we talked about this either slack or text message. 574 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: Are pal Kate Maduke who so Trevor Lawrence number one overall? 575 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: I love Trevor Lawrence wouldn't have done it. 576 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: I love you, Kate. It's amazing. Not not the move 577 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: for me, but hey, man, go have fun. Like I'm 578 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: not gonna knock it, go have fun. 579 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: I did see someone say like, you're you're very unlikely 580 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: to win the Scott Fish Bowl, so might as well 581 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: build a fun team, and I was like, yeah, that's 582 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 2: a good way. 583 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: Think of Scott Fish himself, who who said that, Like, hey, 584 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: look your odds winning this thing are really low. Go 585 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: out and have some fun. And so I do. I 586 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: absolutely one hundred percent respect that. I do. Know. Like 587 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: some of the the ADPs, not a surprise. Patrick mahomes 588 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: the highest drafted player, Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen following Travis Kelcey. Really, 589 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is the only non quarterback in the top eight, 590 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: but because it is a tight end premium and he 591 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: is so far ahead of everybody else. That completely makes sense. 592 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, Or I say, justin Jefferson's your first wide 593 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: receiver drafted. Not a shot there, Christian McCaffrey, You're RB 594 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: one so far. I mean going back and forth on this, 595 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: like I sort of get it because of what his 596 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: skill is and the the Niners offense. I feel like 597 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: he comes with risk though at the number one spot, 598 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: just because the usage might not be what we want 599 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: it to be. 600 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 2: Is it because of Elijah Mitchell? 601 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell? I mean I went last year and looked 602 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: when he joined San Francisco, he played sixty seven percent 603 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: of the snaps, about two thirds of the snaps. Not 604 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: a bad number at all, but part of why we 605 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: loved him so much in Carolina's because he was playing 606 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: ninety percent of the snaps. They also had an offense 607 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: where they had to give him the ball like thirty 608 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: times a game. The Niners don't have to do that. 609 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: Plus the Niners have like, yeah, you can throw the 610 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: ball to CMC ten times a game, or you can 611 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: mix some Deebo Samuel on some short passes and get him. 612 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: I do think so. For me, while I think CMC 613 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: has the highest ceiling. I think Eckler's not too far behind, 614 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: and I think he's a little bit safer, so I 615 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: have him as my RB one. But again, my whole 616 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: RB strategy is like take a receiver in round one 617 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: and then get like Nick Chubb, Saquon Barkley, Josh Jacobs, 618 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: Dereck Henry. The list goes on of running available around two, 619 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: maybe not Saquon, depending on what it happens. We will 620 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: see anyway. 621 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure if you were on Twitter you will see 622 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: more stuff about the Scott Fish Bowl over the days 623 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: and weeks to come as the drafts continue. And if 624 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: you are going to a live draft, enjoy or if 625 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: you went to a live draft, love to see some 626 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: of the pictures from those live draft events. Take a 627 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: quick break, come back. We will talk about the difference 628 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: between best ball leagues and manage leagues and a little 629 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: bit of strategy between the two of them. That's coming 630 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: up next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So people 631 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: have been doing best ball drafts for a couple of months. 632 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: I feel like those started pretty much right after the 633 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, if I'm not mistake. 634 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did one in February. I'm I'm not proud, 635 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: too proud to admit it. 636 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: You know what, I haven't done that in a while. 637 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: A few years ago, I did a bunch of them 638 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: in February. By the time I got to August, I'm like, 639 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: these are trash. What was I doing? 640 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: I do like one just to look back and be like, 641 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: oh my god. 642 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: Right. So I haven't done that this year, but I 643 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: have done a handful of Best Ball drafts. But we're 644 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: getting to the point where managed leagues, the leagues where 645 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: you have to set a lineup week to week, those 646 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: drafts are starting to get going. Those leagues are starting 647 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: to kind of open back up, and they are two 648 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: very different formats and how you approach them, certainly draft wise, 649 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: for you, do you have a different overall strategy in 650 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: Best ball leagues versus managed leagues? 651 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: My strategy is often very similar between the two. Like 652 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: I said, I received around one running back like those 653 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that in Best Ball and managed leagues. 654 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: But because you can do more best ball, I like 655 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: to try out different ideas in them. But besides that, 656 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: I'm more likely to stack in Best Ball. I think 657 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: that in leagues, like in redraft, if you're pulling a 658 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: guy up the board just to stack him. It's not 659 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: gonna make that much of a difference when you're playing 660 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: against twelve people, but when you're playing against the whole 661 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: field of people, I see the advantage there. I also 662 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: think Beastball, I'm paying much more attention to buy weeks 663 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: because you can't change your lineup you could have, like 664 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: in Scott Fish, you're like, I have to draft another 665 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: quarterback later. If that was your problem in Bestball, you're screwed. 666 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: But in a seasonal league, I could just pick someone 667 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: up and stream him that week. And in fact, I 668 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: think it's somewhat of an advantage in the seasonal league 669 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: to have all your bye weeks in one week, whereas 670 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: in a Best Ball that's gonna sink your season. So 671 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: to me, it's just little things like that that I changed. 672 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: But for the I'm also in manage leagues. In the 673 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: early rounds, I like to build safecore and then I 674 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: just go pure upside. In best Ball, I'll take more gambles. 675 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: Early on right, And I think that's sort of a 676 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: big thing there. There's always those guys we talk about 677 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: where like, yeah, he's better in best Ball because you 678 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: just don't know. The week to week variance is going 679 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: to be really wide for some players, but when those 680 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: spike weeks hit, they hit in a big way. I 681 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: think the stacking thing is really a big one for 682 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: me because in a lot of those best ball leagues, 683 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: I might take, you know, three guys from the same team. 684 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: You know, I'll try to stack a quarterback with either 685 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: a couple of receivers or a receiver and a tight end, 686 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: even a receiver and like a pass catching running back 687 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: to try and take advantage of that whole thing there, 688 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, I know, And some bestball tournaments where you 689 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: are looking at late season, you sort of try to 690 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: build based on, say week seventeen, because what happens there 691 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: makes a big difference. If you are able to survive 692 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: the whole season long thing and get to the postseason 693 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: the late season tournament, then what happens in week seventeen 694 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: is important. So sort of looking ahead there I think 695 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: makes more sense in best ball, whereas trying to look 696 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: ahead I think in a manage league can be a 697 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: little bit frustrating because teams are so different from last 698 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: year to this year, and even from September to December. 699 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: So I think that makes it a little bit harder there. 700 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: Do you do anything different at quarterback? You look at 701 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: that differently at all? 702 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: Not really, so you obviously need most Like if I 703 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: have Josh Allen in a managed league or Jalen Hurts, 704 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: I might not draft a backup because I'm gonna play 705 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: this player every week but their bye week. But in bastball, 706 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: you still need a second one in case of injury 707 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: or in case of for the bye week or anything 708 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: like that. But for the most part, I find myself 709 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: attacking that position the same. 710 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: I would say that I in bestball leagues, depending on 711 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: I try to get a quarterback. Right, if I decide 712 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: to reach early for an Allen, a Hurtz or Mahomes, 713 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: then I may only draft two quarterbacks. If I am waiting, 714 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: I very well may draft a third quarterback just because 715 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, if I, let's say I I wait and 716 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: I get a just Geno Smith, I drafted Anthony Richardson, 717 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe I'll get a third quarterback a 718 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: little bit later, just to sort of hedge my bed 719 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: a little bit, give me some insurance either somebody gets hurt, 720 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: somebody just as playing more poorly than we anticipated. I 721 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: just want that third option there. In a best ball league, 722 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: I will rarely draft more than two quarterbacks in a 723 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: managed league. I mean, I'm with you. If I have 724 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 1: a Jalen Hurts, that's who my quarterback is, and I'll 725 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: figure it out, you know, for bye weeks or you know, 726 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: in case of injury. I'm not gonna waste a second 727 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: spot on a quarterback. Generally to manage league, I will again, 728 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: same thing if I'm waiting. If I'm drafting a Kirk Cousins, 729 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: I'll draft a second quarterback. That's what I have. 730 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 2: I think that is a good point though, because as 731 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: you were saying, and I'm like, yeah, I have taken 732 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 2: shots on Sam Hall or Desmond Rider and best ball. 733 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be doing that in a manage league, 734 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: right Like, I'm not going to be going that deep 735 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: at quarterback. 736 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: Right super flex exactly. Are the top quarterbacks overpriced? 737 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think for the first time ever, 738 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: they're appropriately priced because you look at last season, Hurts, 739 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: Alan Mahomes were all around twenty five. Hurts led the 740 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: way he was over twenty five. The other two were 741 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: just below it points per game. The only other quarterback 742 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 2: to average over twenty per game was Joe Burrow, so 743 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: for every and then if you start getting even a 744 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: little bit past that to like the Daniel Jones range, 745 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 2: Now we're talking about the advantage being almost two passing 746 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 2: touchdowns just on average, then those other Big three had 747 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 2: this ceiling to get you thirty thirty five, maybe even 748 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 2: more than that, whereas no other quarterback has that type 749 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: of upside. So I do not do it in the 750 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 2: second round because I think the running back value there 751 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: is too good to pass up. But if one of 752 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 2: those big three falls to me in the third, I 753 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: have no problem taking that. 754 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: See that's sort of my thing. I can't I don't 755 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 1: have the stomach to draft the guy in the top 756 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: two rounds. I can make an exception in the third 757 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: round if one of those guys is there. And I 758 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: think what it has done is it has pushed up 759 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: the ADPs of kind of that second group of quarterbacks. 760 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: Because I think what happens is you get, you know, 761 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks off the board in rounds two and three. 762 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of other people start looking around 763 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: feeling a little bit of nervousness about I got to 764 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 1: get a quarterback. So then guys like Burrow and Herbert 765 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: and Field see their ADPs get pushed up, mostly out 766 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: of I won't call it panic drafting, but concern drafting. 767 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: I guess you're just sort of like, I'm a little 768 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: bit worried, let me make sure I get myself one 769 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: of these top quarterbacks. And so I think that sort 770 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: of knocks those guys up a little bit. Other question 771 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: I had is zero RB a better bet for best 772 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: ball than say, a managed league. 773 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: I know a lot of people feel that it is. 774 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: Me personally, I feel like it's better for managed leagues 775 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 2: because say you're you're drafting six, you're going zero RB 776 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,479 Speaker 2: and then taking like six running backs. Let's say they're 777 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: all gonna be backups or guys, so you're hoping for 778 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 2: one of those two or multiple of those six to 779 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 2: end up with a larger role than you're drafting them on. 780 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: But in a managed league, you have the ability of 781 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 2: playing the waiver wire, so if someone gets hurt, boom, 782 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: I pick up their backup or something like that. So 783 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 2: to me, the whole point of zero RB is like, oh, 784 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 2: there's so much change in season at the position, but 785 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: you can't guess that you could try to guess it, 786 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: but you're just guessing before in August, you know, But 787 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 2: as the season plays out and you can actually take 788 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 2: advantage of those changes. To me, I think that is 789 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 2: where I would at least be more comfortable implementing zero RB. 790 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's an interesting way to look at it, 791 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: because I hadn't really considered it that way. I mean, 792 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: I look at it as it's being good in best ball, 793 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: because you know, if one of these other running backs 794 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: you draft sort of has a random spike week, then 795 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: you get to take advantage of that, and in the 796 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: event that you know, something happens to the guy in 797 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: front of him, then you are kind of set up 798 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: for that. But I do think I think that that idea, 799 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: that point of being able to play the waiver wire 800 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: sort of does give you a little bit more flexibility 801 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: to kind of mix and match and swap guys in 802 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: and out based on the situation they're in. I think 803 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: that's I think that's. 804 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 2: Fair both formats, though I'm all in on hero RB, 805 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 2: Like I keep saying, second round running back and then 806 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm probably waiting till maybe like the six but usually 807 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:09,919 Speaker 2: even a little bit later. 808 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that hasn't been what I did for Scott Fish Bowl, 809 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: but that has generally been my draft strategy. 810 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 2: I have two running backs already. 811 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: I would zero RB here, but I've generally gone kind 812 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: of the hero RB approach. I get one guy early 813 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: and then I'll figure it out the rest of the way. 814 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: Is there a difference in what you do in late 815 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: rounds in best ball versus managed leagues? 816 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 2: Nope. The only difference is in best Ball I'll pay 817 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 2: more attention to like do I need another backup tight 818 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 2: end or something like that, But the approach is the 819 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: same for me. Upside upside upside, because in a Best 820 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: Ball league you can't make pickups and stuff like that. 821 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 2: A guy who can give you ten points a week 822 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 2: could be coming handy, but those spike weeks are what 823 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 2: we're chasing in the format. Same way in manned leagues, Like, yeah, 824 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 2: I could have a decent backup on my bench, but 825 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 2: I always think those players hurt you more than anything 826 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 2: because you don't want to put them in your starting 827 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 2: lineup because they're not as good as your starters, But 828 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: you don't want to cut them because you're like, oh, well, 829 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 2: they're a reliable backup, and that means you get less 830 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: upside shots in the waiver wires. So in the last 831 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 2: few years, I've changed my approach to just be like, 832 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 2: I'm gonna target upside in the late rounds and if 833 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 2: they don't work out well, then I could just keep 834 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 2: cutting them and taking upside shots on the waiver wire. 835 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: I think that's sort of it. And I know that 836 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: with Manage League, for instance, I know Adam Rank's a 837 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: big fan of like, I'm not gonna draft a kicker, 838 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just keep drafting other guys because yeah, one 839 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: of those end of roster guys you're probably gonna cut 840 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: them anyway. That's the guy you put back on the 841 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: waiver wire to go get your kicker or whatever for 842 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: whenever Week one happens. So I think I think the 843 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 1: upside thing is probably just the best part for any 844 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: late round, regardless of the format. You just want those 845 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: guys that have the opportunity to go out and get targets, 846 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: get touches, whatever it is, and try to find you 847 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 1: some big weeks in there. However it may work out. 848 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's do this. It's cyber Florio's film Festival. 849 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: This week we watched the movie Armageddon. The synopsis. After 850 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 1: discovering that an asteroid the size of Texas will impact 851 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: Earth in less than a month, NASA recruits a misfit 852 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 1: team of deep core drillers to save the planet. Release 853 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: July first, nineteen ninety eight, with a budget of one 854 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: hundred and forty million, it grossed five hundred and fifty 855 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: three million worldwide. Who you and I talked about this 856 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: before the show started. I mentioned to you that I 857 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: had seen this obviously before, I hadn't watched it from 858 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: start to finish in a while. It was a rough watch. 859 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was rough, Like I put it on 860 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: last night at it was my fault. It was like 861 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: eight thirty almost nine o'clock, and I was like, oh wow, 862 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 2: this is two and a half hours. Like my thing 863 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 2: continues to be nineties movies. I feel like had to 864 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 2: be over. 865 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: Two hours kind of was the thing. 866 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, this movie could have been an hour and a 867 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 2: half easily, maybe even shorter, like an hour and a 868 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 2: half into the Like I legitimately paused it and was like, 869 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 2: I have less remaining than I've watched, and they're only 870 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 2: heading into space now, Like it just and my thing 871 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 2: was I went into thinking it was a good movie, 872 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 2: because back in the day, my dad had this weird 873 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 2: thing where he would get to work early and then 874 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 2: watch like twenty thirty minutes of a movie on a 875 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 2: portable DVD player. And I remember him watching Armageddon and 876 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: being like, oh, that looks like a halfway decent movie. 877 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 2: And then I watched it and I was like, this 878 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 2: movie was bad. 879 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: This movie is bad. It was definitely worse than I 880 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: remember it being. And the whole I was like watching 881 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 1: it at home and I remember, you know, they get 882 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: through the basically the character introductions and you meet the 883 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: team and all this. I paused it to go get 884 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: up and get a snack or something like that, and 885 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: I pause it. I'm like, there's still an hour and 886 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: forty five minutes left of this movie. Like this, there's 887 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: a whole movie. He's worth a movie left. And it 888 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: was just I kept pausing it to go either go 889 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: to the rust treat and we're gonna snack, and I'm 890 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: just like, there's still an hour left, There's still forty 891 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: five minutes left this movie just I mean, it's two 892 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: and a half hours, and you feel every minute of it. 893 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 2: Because the last thirty minutes maybe are what we tune 894 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 2: into the movie for right, like, are you gonna stop 895 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 2: the media or not? And like the whole thing with 896 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 2: his daughter was weird and I didn't need to watch 897 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: them for thirty minutes actually training. I'm like, I'm not 898 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 2: going up in the space to drill. Le's just tell 899 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 2: me they did the training. 900 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: So a couple of things about that one, the whole 901 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: romantic thing. The original script did not include the romantic 902 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: subplot between AJ and Grace, instead had more emphasis on 903 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: Truman the Billy Bob Thornton character. The romance was added 904 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 1: after the success of Titanic with teenage girls. They decided 905 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: that because of the whole Jack Rose thing and it 906 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,479 Speaker 1: was so popular and Titanic, let's just throw it into 907 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: this movie, even if it doesn't really make sense. 908 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 2: Also, Steve Buscemi very popular in the movies we've watched 909 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 2: so far. Why does he play the weirdest people ever? Like, so, 910 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: for no reason at all, the cops come or whoever 911 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 2: comes to talk to Bruce Willis and Steve Bumy's like, 912 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 2: I didn't know her age, and I'm like, why did 913 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 2: you have to put that at all? 914 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: I got the fun facts. Funny you mentioned Steve Bumi 915 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 1: claimed the role of rock Count was pitched to him 916 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: as a heroic geologist, which he eagerly accepted, wanting a 917 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: change from the low lives whom as whom he had 918 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: been type cast. He noted that after he had been 919 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 1: cast in the role rock Hound, sleazy characteristics were written 920 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: into the script. He was he got duped into being 921 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: in this movie. 922 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 2: He was a cringey character. 923 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: He was a very cringey character. He also said he 924 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 1: basically just did it because he wanted to buy a 925 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: bigger house. The cast, the cast was the one saving grace. 926 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, a lot of these people went 927 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 1: on to become very famous. My favorite note from this 928 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: movie and I had heard this before, uh, you know, 929 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: going through and finding these. Regarding the film's premise, Ben 930 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: Affleck asked director Michael Bay, wouldn't it be easier for 931 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: NASA to train astronauts how to drill rather than training 932 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: drillers to be astronauts. That was my thought the whole time, 933 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: And I believe Michael Bay's response was shut the f 934 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: up and just act that. They just tried to kind 935 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 1: of use the script to cover it up. 936 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: Watching the movie, I was like, why would they pick 937 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 2: these guys. They've never been in space, they have no 938 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 2: experience with any of them. 939 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: And you have two weeks to get them ready to 940 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: go to space. 941 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 2: They also used the two weeks so poorly, like they 942 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 2: didn't tell anyone and then they waited until like they 943 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 2: were like, well, if this fails, were all crue do 944 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 2: something in the means. 945 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. I you know. It's funny too, because 946 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: I was sort of comparing and contrasting this movie in 947 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: my head with Independence Day, which and just watch way right, 948 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: it was significantly better than this movie. In Independence Day, 949 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: you got the feeling that it was a worldwide coalition, Like, yes, 950 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: the characters we followed were Americans, but you got the 951 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: sense that the world was sort of in on trying 952 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: to figure out how to stop the aliens. This was 953 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: purely an American project to stop this meteor, Like this 954 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: is a global thing. They're like, we can't let anybody 955 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: know because it's going to be mass hysteria. And it 956 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 1: was just some American. It was NASA, the American you know, 957 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: Space administration, pulling some drillers off the coast of who 958 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: who knows where, and like either we get is done 959 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: or we're all dead. And again, the only. 960 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 2: Time you see the world is after they save it 961 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 2: and everyone is celebrating. I'm like, so the whole world 962 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 2: knew this thing was coming, and no one else decided 963 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:37,720 Speaker 2: to do anything. 964 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: I think like it the way they make it seems 965 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: that the world didn't know until like basically a couple 966 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: of days before. It was just like, hey, so we're 967 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: going up there, wish us luck, and you know, then 968 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: you see people around the world like praying and like 969 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: getting their affairs in order sort of thing. I would 970 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: like to think that, like, you know, if this were 971 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: really happening, for all the divisions and differences we have 972 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: as a human race, we would come together to try 973 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: to figure out how to not be you know, destroyed 974 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: as a people. 975 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 2: I also love I'm getting the you know, I'm not 976 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 2: This isn't verbatim or anything like that, but in the 977 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 2: beginning when they're explaining I forget if it's the president 978 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 2: or the general, but they're like, there's this meteor and 979 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 2: it's coming and it's way bigger than the one that 980 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 2: took out the dinosaurs, and they're like, so if it 981 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 2: hits us, what's the dammage You're dead. The whole world 982 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 2: is dead, Like what do you what do you mean? 983 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean like it's like it's the size of Texas. Like, yeah, 984 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 1: if that hits us, it's a rap for everybody. 985 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 2: I was like, can you line it up to land 986 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 2: perfectly on. 987 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: Texas just so we can see if it really is 988 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: the same size of Texas? 989 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 2: Like that would be that would actually be kind of amazing. Also, 990 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 2: I know you watched the show. I'm a big fan 991 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 2: of Rick and Morty. Then the General is the voice 992 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 2: actor who plays the President in Rick and Morty. And 993 00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 2: that's all I could think of the. 994 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: Entire show me what you got? 995 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the first like thirty minutes, I'm like, I'm 996 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 2: pretty sure that's him. It has to him. I googled it. 997 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,720 Speaker 2: And then the rest of the time, I'm. 998 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: Like, that is absolutely him. Yeah, Keith David is the 999 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: guy who's the General who also plays the voice of 1000 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,760 Speaker 1: the president in Rick and Morty. Some other fun facts. 1001 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: NASA shows this film during their management training program. New 1002 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 1: managers are giving this task of trying to spot as 1003 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: many errors as possible. At least one hundred and sixty 1004 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: eight have been found. 1005 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 2: Wait is this just some like the the stuff of 1006 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 2: them going to space and. 1007 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: Stuff like I assume, yeah, I would assume it's like 1008 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: the whole like training the astronauts going to space sort 1009 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 1: of thing. 1010 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 2: When when the first round of meteors hit and I 1011 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 2: understand they say they say they're small, and then they 1012 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 2: go they range in size from a basketball to a volkswagon. 1013 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: I'm like that that's pretty big. 1014 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 2: But if a meteor the size of a Volkswagon hit, 1015 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 2: it wouldn't just go straight into the ground, like it 1016 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 2: would cause a lot of damage. 1017 00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know, a volleyball sized me year could 1018 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: put a pretty big hole in the ground. A Volkswagen 1019 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: sized media just you know what. 1020 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 2: It really reminded me of watching that scene. It felt 1021 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 2: like an endgame when or maybe it's Infinity when Thanos 1022 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 2: shows up and like they're first like at like shooting 1023 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,800 Speaker 2: in New York City. I was like that, that's also 1024 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,720 Speaker 2: another movie where the Twin Towers get got. 1025 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: They get got. I also gonna ask, I mean, you're 1026 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: a you're a New Yorker, Like why is it that 1027 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,479 Speaker 1: disaster movies love destroying the Chrysler building? Like I feel 1028 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: like the Chrysler building hits it too. 1029 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 2: It is my favorite building in New York, like I 1030 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 2: have it tattooed on me. It's always has been my 1031 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 2: favorite building. And for some reason, Yeah, movies are always 1032 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 2: like that's. 1033 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: The one Chrysler building always gets it. 1034 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 2: It's not like like I understand the twin towers that 1035 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 2: are iconic, the Empire State building, like that one is 1036 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 2: at least third in the. 1037 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 1: Sacond order of buildings. Like ah, it always always gets wrecked. 1038 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: Trying to see any other interesting notes. Liv Tyler turned 1039 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: down the role of Gray Stamper twice before finally accepting. 1040 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: I guess they just wore her down. 1041 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 2: Her character was just weird. 1042 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: I felt like it was weird, and it was also 1043 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: weird that you know, her dad, Okay, Bruce Willis seems 1044 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: shocked that she would that a girl who grew up 1045 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,760 Speaker 1: on oil rigs and around oil drillers would eventually date 1046 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: an oil all of us, Like, I just you know, 1047 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: I thought that was weird. I also thought it seems 1048 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never worked on an offshore oil rig. 1049 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: It seems unsafe to run around with a shotgun. Yeah, 1050 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: blasting on. 1051 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 2: Was like on his side, I'm like, he's he could kill. 1052 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: Chill all of you, Like I just that seems unsafe 1053 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: to be running around doing that out there. 1054 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 2: The one thing I expected coming into this movie because 1055 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 2: it's Michael Bay, was a lot of explosions, and I 1056 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 2: feel like I didn't get as many explosions as I 1057 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 2: thought I was gonna all. 1058 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 1: Right, well to uh to hopefully help that we have 1059 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: a new we have a Michael Bay movie coming up 1060 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 1: next week. I'll let you know in a second, But 1061 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 1: first I just got to ask, would you willingly watch 1062 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: this movie again? No? 1063 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 2: Right now, I'm debating where so it comes in the 1064 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 2: bottom of three. It's Face Off, the Last Action Hero, 1065 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 2: and Armageddon. I'm debating where amongst these it might come 1066 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 2: in last. 1067 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: It does it? Is? It? Is it worse than Face Off? 1068 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 2: I to me, it's between that and Last Action Hero, 1069 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 2: which was equally as long. If you can't tell if 1070 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 2: the movie isn't good and is super long, ye like, 1071 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 2: be not good and short and I'll love it. But 1072 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,800 Speaker 2: if you're not good and long, you like, I always 1073 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 2: tell you. I used the phone test. I had to 1074 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 2: remind myself to put my phone down during this movie. 1075 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 2: I was like, I need to actually pay attention a little. 1076 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,439 Speaker 2: I started doing a best ball draft. 1077 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: During I got bored. I did think about you because 1078 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,840 Speaker 1: I was like picking up my phone too and just 1079 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: like what is h He's dragging? So all right, so 1080 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: like this this While this could have supplanted Face Off 1081 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 1: potentially as the worst movie. 1082 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 2: The uh my verdict on if it doesn't hold up 1083 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 2: at all. But I did say after I was like, 1084 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 2: I feel like, if you made this movie today with 1085 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 2: CGI and stuff, maybe could be and you made the 1086 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 2: characters more likable. 1087 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: You have to make them likable. You have to cut 1088 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 1: some things out. Yeah we don't. We really didn't need 1089 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 1: so much on the whole romantic thing. No, we didn't 1090 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: need that. 1091 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 2: But the whole part where they're like in space, it's 1092 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 2: just like they told the cameraman to like shake the 1093 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,720 Speaker 2: camera launch I bet, and like everything looked pretty terrible. 1094 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: I also think that Bruce Willis's character, if they remade 1095 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: it would probably be like Jason Statham. I could see that, 1096 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, I could see Jason State just put the 1097 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 1: Fast and the Furious casting right there, you know. I 1098 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: mean basically they went to space. They did go to space. 1099 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 2: In their galaxy. In their world, if a meteor was 1100 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 2: heading to the world, they would send Vin Diesel to stop. 1101 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: It absolutely, and Vin Diesel would like punch it or 1102 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: something in the Rock could just like hold it, like 1103 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: drive the car and like just you know, hit it 1104 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 1: or whatever, and that sort of thing. Of the other 1105 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: note here because I'm telling you before the show, like 1106 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 1: as I'm going through and I'm finding notes, like on 1107 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: IMDb most of the notes and that the trivia facts 1108 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: are about how bad this was and how people hate it. 1109 00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,359 Speaker 1: Michael Bay thinks Armageddon is his worst film. I will 1110 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: apologize for Armageddon because we had to do the whole 1111 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: movie in sixteen weeks. It was a massive undertaking that 1112 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: was not fair to the movie. I would redo the 1113 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,760 Speaker 1: entire third act if I could. 1114 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,439 Speaker 2: That makes sense because I thought the entire third act 1115 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 2: was done very poorly. 1116 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,760 Speaker 1: It was it was rushed. It was that very good. 1117 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: So we'll see a Michael Bay movie that I think 1118 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: was a lot better. The Rock from nineteen ninety six, 1119 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: Sean Connery, Nicholas Cage stop a terrorist plot on Alcatraz Island. 1120 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,320 Speaker 2: My one friend every time he has seen because I 1121 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 2: like the barbecue stuff. I know, he's every time been like, 1122 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 2: you have to watch The Rock. 1123 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, there we go. So it's already gotten an endorsement. 1124 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, it's already gantton of the movies we've watched. 1125 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 2: In your opinion, is it the worst? 1126 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 1: I think Face Off is probably the worst. 1127 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,879 Speaker 2: See I have Last Action here right now. 1128 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 1: Last Action Hero was was pretty rough too, I think. 1129 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: I think I think because Face Off just disappointed me. 1130 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: I think I remember I remember seeing in the theaters 1131 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,919 Speaker 1: and thinking it was great and having it just built 1132 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: up in my head and watching it again and feeling 1133 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 1: really really let down. So maybe that's what it is. 1134 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 2: It's another movie that I feel like, if they made 1135 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,399 Speaker 2: it today with the technology advancements, could be a lot better. 1136 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Nick Cage, you know, kind of helped save that 1137 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 1: movie sort of as much as possible. Without him, it 1138 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,280 Speaker 1: would have been absolutely awful. In the Nick Cage acting 1139 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 1: like John Travolta acting like Nick Cage. 1140 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 2: I want to get all of these nineties people together 1141 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 2: to make one last like Action. 1142 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, isn't it basically what The Expendables was? 1143 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and watching that I was like, yeah, this is 1144 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,399 Speaker 2: I don't believe that any of these guys can still 1145 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 2: do any of this stuff. 1146 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So but we'll watch the Rock, Nick Cage, 1147 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 1: Sean Connery, Ed Harris. That should be a lot of fun. 1148 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 1: That will be on next week's show, which, by the way, 1149 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: a side note, next week's show will be out on Thursday. 1150 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: Normally we do these on Wednesday. Next week we'll be 1151 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: on Thursday. We have job responsibilities, we have meetings and 1152 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 1: that sort of thing next week that we'll prevent us 1153 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,959 Speaker 1: from doing it on our normal days. Look forward to it. 1154 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 1: Then in the meantime, that'll do it for this edition 1155 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 1: of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, The Happy, Safe and Healthy, 1156 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: do good, and live well, enjoy whatever movies you watch, 1157 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 1: stay out of the heat to depending on where you live, 1158 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 1: and we will talk to you next week.