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Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win. Hi, everybody, and welcome into

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Speaker 1: our Monday morning podcast. Colin Coward Podcast really going to

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Speaker 1: be a good one tonight. Let me let me jump

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Speaker 1: on a couple of things. Mike Silver, NFL Network Sports Illustrated.

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Speaker 1: He's great, he's a regular now on my podcast. And

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Speaker 1: before I get to him, I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: coaching for a second. So, the three coaches I had

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Speaker 1: huge issues with in terms of being hired were David

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Speaker 1: Culley at Houston, Nick Serrianni with the Eagles, and Dan

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Speaker 1: Campbell with a Lion. Well, let's be honest, they're sort

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Speaker 1: of disasters. This is something that is not terribly difficult.

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Speaker 1: If somebody is not good in their interview for a job,

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Speaker 1: it should be held against them. When you watched all

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Speaker 1: three in the first couple of weeks at the podium,

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Speaker 1: it was a disaster, folks. If you can't ace the interview.

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Speaker 1: I've had fifteen interviews in my life, I've never had

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Speaker 1: a disaster. Doesn't mean I've gotten every job, but these

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Speaker 1: guys were a wreck at the podium. And you have

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Speaker 1: to remember elevate, motivate, grab respect from fifty three men

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Speaker 1: and scout teams and assistant coaches. Also, what are they

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Speaker 1: like building a staff if they can't do a ten

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Speaker 1: minute presser in front of local media, not even national media.

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Speaker 1: So all three coaches, I do think Dan Campbell's teams

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Speaker 1: play their butt off. I'll give him a lot of

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Speaker 1: credit for that. I thought he had a good son,

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Speaker 1: a couple of fake punts on sidekick, But in the end,

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Speaker 1: the coaches I thought would be a disaster or a disaster.

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Speaker 1: Here's something else in terms of coaching. I talked about

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Speaker 1: this on The Herd last week. Denver, Miami, and the

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Speaker 1: Washington football team all have defensive coaches. All of those

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Speaker 1: teams had opportunities to move up in the draft and

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Speaker 1: get a quarterback or simply stay where they were and

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Speaker 1: get a quarterback, and the defensive coaches did not. If

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Speaker 1: you look at who was flourishing in this league right now,

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Speaker 1: it is offensive coaches who lobbied hard to their owners

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Speaker 1: in GM for quarterback upgrades. Sean McVay went to stand

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Speaker 1: cronky and less sneat. He already had a quarterback in

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff that got him to a super Bowl. He

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Speaker 1: lobbied hard for an upgrade. It's paying off. You look

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Speaker 1: around the league. Frank Reich lobbied hard for an upgrade

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Carson went so far as had a very

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Speaker 1: good year. The defensive coaches, Vic Fangio at Denver, Brian

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Speaker 1: Flores with the Dolphins, Ron Rivera with Washington. They did

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Speaker 1: not have a believe that quarterback would be essential to

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Speaker 1: winning games. I mean Denver's erect Now Raiders are better

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Speaker 1: bit of a wreck, but they got Patrick Mahomes. So

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Speaker 1: I think it does point to something that's happening in football.

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Speaker 1: If you got to hire a coach, you really really

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Speaker 1: Now that is not a revelation, but you're really seeing it.

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Speaker 1: It's really obvious. Is that the stefanskis That's why Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield may be in some trouble. He is not going

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Speaker 1: to settle. He is going to lobby hard for an

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Speaker 1: upgrade Zach Taylor has Joe Burrow. How's that working. You

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Speaker 1: start looking around this league right now, defensive coaches. I

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Speaker 1: said this about Mike Tomlin. I love Mike Tomlin. He

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Speaker 1: is not upgraded at quarterback and he should have really

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Speaker 1: been far more aggressive. Forget this draft, the previous draft.

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Speaker 1: If you're an owner, you have to lean offense. Denver's

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Speaker 1: gonna get a new coach. Go offense, not just for

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Speaker 1: was interesting that Bill Belichick not only beat the Jets

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Speaker 1: we all know he doesn't like the Jets, but he

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Speaker 1: also has a deep respect for football history and win

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Speaker 1: or lose. Belichick has always done it by respecting the game. Well,

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Speaker 1: make sure you know that. Secondly, they are no longer

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Speaker 1: Bill is at a certain level. Everybody's at a different level.

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Speaker 1: This is the best two has ever looked. He also

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Speaker 1: six months before they fire you. They're firing you. You

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Speaker 1: can be on good graces, but they have those meetings

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Speaker 1: they start looking privately. It's too late for Tuah. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's the injuries. He got benched. His teammates did not

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Speaker 1: that says that's not a big deal. Every quarterback that's

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Speaker 1: When Russell Wilson got drafted by the Seahawks in the

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Speaker 1: But before us first start, I'd seen a ton of

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Speaker 1: There's no special there. Arm nope, size nope, athletic ability nope.

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Speaker 1: One more take. In my business, I noticed this a lot,

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Speaker 1: I call it safety ism. You never get pushback if

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Speaker 1: you're a sportscaster. If you play it safe, you never

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Speaker 1: have a contrarian take. You always go to Twitter and oh,

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Speaker 1: do a simulcast. In fact, we're the only one in

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Speaker 1: the country is still doing it. I get a number

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Speaker 1: on TV and radio and podcast and digital and Facebook.

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Speaker 1: And the reason is that we're willing to say things

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Speaker 1: All the safe takers out there, you and I know this.

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Speaker 1: They today would not give him an extension. You know it,

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Speaker 1: and I know it, and I've been saying it for

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Speaker 1: three years and getting shipped for it. But a prime

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Speaker 1: example is Mahomes. Everybody is petrified of criticizing Mahomes on

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Speaker 1: social media because you get pushback. But he's loose, he's

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Speaker 1: getting looser. He is not the easiest quarterback to coach.

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid's lovable. It's good ownership, I think a smart GM.

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Speaker 1: But right now Kansas City is trying to throw haymakers

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Speaker 1: And Mahomes isn't perfect. People forget this. He's been in

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Speaker 1: seven of the eight he's been outplayed by Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: I do not think Kansas City is a special team

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. He's not played as well. He's made some

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Speaker 1: I don't know you saw the Super Bowl, You've watched

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Speaker 1: all these preseason games, You've watched these regular season games.

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Speaker 1: When a team is three and twelve against the spread,

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Speaker 1: they're being wildly overvalued. A lot of that is the fans.

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Speaker 1: A lot of that is the media. Just because you

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Speaker 1: with his left hand doesn't mean they're not fallible. It's

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Speaker 1: okay you get a little pushback on social media. I roll.

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Speaker 1: That's part of the business. If you're not getting pushedback,

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Speaker 1: you're not really doing your job. So this week, my

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Speaker 1: Ravens tickets? And I said, okay, I'll try. So I

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Speaker 1: I don't do tickets. I don't get anybody free tickets.

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Speaker 1: So I told my daughter, I'm gonna pay for him.

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Speaker 1: to me immediately. They were wonderful, got four seats. Bizarrely,

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Speaker 1: my daughter sits next to Joe Burrow's mother. I kid

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Speaker 1: your right, and that's Joe Burrow went one. Okay, he

424
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Speaker 1: went one, but that's a whole run right there. And

425
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Speaker 1: then Justin Herbert went right after Tah and that's maybe

426
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Speaker 1: a grand slab. And so you have to view the

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Speaker 1: twa pick through that prison. Yeah, the aesthetics are really

428
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: bad because fans keep score the draft. Now it's not

429
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Speaker 1: like a hockey draft, it's not like a baseball draft.

430
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Speaker 1: It gets bigger ratings than NBA playoff games. So we

431
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Speaker 1: everybody watches it. You know, these are guys from Oregon

432
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: and LSU and Alabama. We all know these guys and

433
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Speaker 1: we know, you know the standings on the Dolphins and

434
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Speaker 1: where they chose. So one of the things that I

435
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Speaker 1: think funny, a lot of stories came out about Goff

436
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: and McVeagh this week, and it's funny because you wrote

437
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Speaker 1: an article. I remember reading it back in January and

438
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: you actually broke all this stuff. And that's not a

439
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Speaker 1: shot at anybody. But let's go back to the stuff

440
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Speaker 1: that in your story that you talked about. When McVeigh

441
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: called Goff and said we're moving you. Yeah, you know,

442
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: it was not a very delicately handled goodbye. You know,

443
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: they lost in the playoff game. Immediately Sean mcvayh was

444
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: asked about Jared Goff, is he your quarterback? And he said, yeah,

445
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Speaker 1: sure he is right right now, which is literally what

446
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 1: Cardinals Generald Meager Steve Kime, our friend both of us

447
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: said at the combine when asked about Josh Rosen before

448
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Speaker 1: he drafted Kyler Murray and Sean had another comment that

449
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: was probably even stronger. Less Sneed said some stuff. I

450
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: actually talked to Sean McVay when he was in Cobbo.

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Speaker 1: I did not hang up on him a day or

452
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Speaker 1: too before the trade he called me and was curious

453
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Speaker 1: about the optics in my eyes, and you know, how

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Speaker 1: they were, how he was handling this situation. And he

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Speaker 1: knows that I've known Jared for a long time and

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Speaker 1: very close to him. I'm very close to Sean, and

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Speaker 1: regardless of outcome, I just told him I thought that

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Speaker 1: they weren't handling it great. And he said, well, I

459
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Speaker 1: just don't want to lie. I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: accused of lying after the fact. And I said, I

461
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: hear you, man, but a lot of coaches say, hey,

462
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Speaker 1: that's my quarterback. But you know, you never know, we

463
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: always look to improve the team. So pretty quickly thereafter

464
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Speaker 1: he got traded on a Saturday night, I believe, pretty abruptly,

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Speaker 1: you know. The next morning I talked to Jared and

466
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Speaker 1: wrote a pretty long column on it. And the lead

467
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Speaker 1: of that column is Sean calls Jared. He's been hearing

468
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Speaker 1: some stuff. Sean calls him and says, hey, man, we

469
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Speaker 1: traded you for Matthew staff Or and it's it hasn't

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Speaker 1: They haven't been on the phone very long, and now

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Speaker 1: the news has broken, probably because if my memory serves

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Speaker 1: me right, Jake Glazer, who does these things off and

473
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Speaker 1: broke it. So now the whole world has found out.

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00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: And Jared's dad called because he saw it, and that's

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Speaker 1: his son. Jared saw the call waiting and just said,

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Speaker 1: hey man, I gotta go boom And it was not

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if hanging up on him is

478
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: it might be a little severe, but he basically very

479
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: quickly had Sean lose a phone face off in a

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Speaker 1: judgment call. And yeah, Jared was was super u not

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Speaker 1: thrilled with Sean at the time, and you know, they

482
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Speaker 1: did have a conversation afterwards. Jared did come into the

483
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Speaker 1: facility a week or two later and sit with Sean

484
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: for a pretty long time, and they got some things

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Speaker 1: off their chest. I don't know that uh, you know,

486
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: it's it's all milk and roses or milk and honey,

487
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: Brenna roses, bred roses, milk, honey, some combination of those things.

488
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Speaker 1: But you know, they cleared, they cleared some things up

489
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: and you know, trying to move on. So yeah, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was, I was. You know, Jay breaks enough stuff

491
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Speaker 1: on his own. The fact that he was able to

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Speaker 1: confirm that months later on your network was also cool.

493
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Speaker 1: So you, Mike Silver, you are still a little bit

494
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Speaker 1: of a cynic on Arizona. And let me say this,

495
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Speaker 1: I've been on this kick for about three years. Aggressive

496
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Speaker 1: wins in sports. Dana White came out and said in

497
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Speaker 1: the Pandemic, I'm renting an island and it worked. If

498
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Speaker 1: you if you start looking at baseball teams, football teams,

499
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: Stafford over golf, We're going to go for it. It

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Speaker 1: works overwhelmingly, and nobody's been more aggressive than Steve Kime

501
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: zach Urge, JJ Watt and it's working. So just my

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00:28:53,960 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: default mechanism with teams that are aggressive is this. It works. Also,

503
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: there are moments watching Kyler Murray Mike and I believe

504
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Speaker 1: this to be true that I think he's the best

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Speaker 1: player in the National Football League. He could not It's

506
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: I know, it sounds crazy. There are things he does

507
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: Aaron can't do, Patrick Gando, Russell Wilson can't do. I

508
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: watched two. Well, I don't think Lamar's ever thrown as

509
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: pretty a ball as Kyler. Kyler's baseball background, he slides better,

510
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: he throws a prettier ball. But I'm watching this league

511
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: and I said this couple weeks ago, last weekend, not

512
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 1: this weekend. Last weekend, thirteen of the fourteen best quarterbacks won.

513
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: The game would have been fourteen for fourteen, but Josh

514
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: Allen slipped. Every division right now is led except one

515
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Speaker 1: by the best quarterback in the division. The only exception

516
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: is Derek Carr and Justin Herbert, and they're darn good

517
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Speaker 1: that the league is now so quarterback driven and it's

518
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Speaker 1: really made a leap Mike in the last four to

519
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Speaker 1: five years. Kyler Murra is just going to pull them

520
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Speaker 1: to wins. And he made place today that were ridiculous.

521
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: It looked like it was like Pac Man. It looked

522
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Speaker 1: like a video game. So you're a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a cynic on these guys. And why, First of all,

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Speaker 1: I love aggressive. I'm not saying I don't. I'm just saying,

525
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Speaker 1: like the Dream Team, you know, Philadelphia, Like, there have

526
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Speaker 1: been plenty of times where aggressive didn't work and people

527
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: got fired, and you know, we all still harken back

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Speaker 1: to it. So I like aggressive, but you got to

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Speaker 1: be willing to take the swing. I think Steve Kim

530
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Speaker 1: didn't have a choice because my understanding of what went

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Speaker 1: down in Arizona after last season was, you know, the

532
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: rest of us looked at him and said, oh, look,

533
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Speaker 1: Cardinal's kind of made a jump, almost made the playoffs,

534
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: kind of like the Dolphins, right, like, wow, promising season

535
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: just didn't end well at you know, the last couple

536
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Speaker 1: of weeks. But ownership was like, this was a colossal failure.

537
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: It's unacceptable and if it doesn't change now, heads will roll.

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00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: And you know, if I'm Steve Kime, I don't know

539
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: if that's Cliff Kingsbury's figurative head or Steve Kimes also,

540
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: but i'd being aggressive under that backdrop. And so yeah,

541
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: he went and got J. J. Watt, which is, let's

542
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: face it, it's a risk. You know, it's still a risk.

543
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: He has been very injured. You know, off ye got

544
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: rid of Patrick Peterson. You know, the Chandler Jones thing

545
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: had been kind of weird, the zach Ertz traded, great

546
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: decision to do that in the wake of it, you know,

547
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: the MAXs William's injury. But the thing that just concerns

548
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: me a little bit about Arizona is the combination of

549
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: what I just voiced, that there's a lot of pressure

550
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: there now. Luckily for them, they've started very very well.

551
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: But Kyler, you know, last year it didn't end well

552
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: with Kyler either, and it ended a little weird, like

553
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: he wasn't on the field and didn't play, and they

554
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: were really weren't sure about how the injury, you know,

555
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: the thing was playing out, and it just kind of

556
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: fell flat. And then Kyler didn't have an off season

557
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: that was anything like, well, Aaron Rodgers doesn't count, right

558
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: because he was going through his weirdness, and Russell doesn't count.

559
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: But any other franchise quarterback that you named, you know,

560
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: Lamar Jack said, Josh Allen. All these other guys, they're

561
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: grinding through the off season with the team and throwing

562
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: with guys away from it and just they're all in

563
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: and Kyler it didn't feel all into them. He missed

564
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: some you know OTV time. There were ye there's talk

565
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: that he might play baseball. And if you combine that

566
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: with his personality, which is very not typical franchise quarterback,

567
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: it's more reserved. It's less you know, hey, we're all

568
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'm the guy yelling and we're all you know,

569
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: in the mix together, so they don't feel like he's,

570
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, that guy. They're not sure if he really

571
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: wants to play baseball. Ever, there weren't sure how last

572
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: year ended, and he wasn't really there over the offseason.

573
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, he'd better keep making plays because if it

574
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: starts getting weird, you know, I know, if it starts

575
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: getting weird in Baltimore, Lamar Jackson, can you know, galvanize

576
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: that team. I know Josh Allen could do it. I

577
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: know Justin Herbert already can do it. And I know

578
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady

579
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: can do it. I still don't know if Kyler can

580
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Speaker 1: do that, but he's doing it so far. Raiders post Gruden,

581
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: they're playing with an incredible energy. I'm not I'm you know,

582
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: we know the interim coaches. That's often the case. Special

583
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, the Raiders leaked the emails because they wanted

584
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: Rich Besachya. I'm kidding, obviously, I'm speaking of Jess, But

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00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, you're right. They're they're playing really well at

586
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: a time when they could have easily, you know, started

587
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: open and been discompopulated. Yeah, it also points to the

588
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: fact that, and this goes back to sort of a

589
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: cultural reality, this is a quarterback league more than ever.

590
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: Derek Carr's good. He's got you know, seven to eight

591
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: legitimate weapons with Darren Waller healthy or not. And the

592
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: truth is it overcomes a lot of shortcomings. I said

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00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: this last week. TWA can win games, but what you're

594
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: looking for two is not the problem. But he's not

595
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: the solution. The solution in the NFL is a great quarterback.

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00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: He minimizes all your problems, injuries, bad free agent signings,

597
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: draft picks right. And we all struggle with Derek Carr

598
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: because he came from Fresno State, he wasn't a first rounder.

599
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: The team was bad initially. Do we have to come

600
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: to the point where we just go shit, Derek's a

601
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: top ten quarterback, by the way, I've come to terms

602
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: with that. With Dak Prescott, he throws a better ball

603
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: today than two years ago. I think Derek's one of

604
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: those he's he's good. Well here, I'll give you both

605
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: sides on Derek. You know what you said is what

606
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: they think. He might not be the difference, you know,

607
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: put us over the top. But we can definitely win

608
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: with him now. So some things have changed, right. The

609
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: defense is better with Gus Bradley, with the guys they

610
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: brought in. That's a big deal. Um, Greg Olsen has

611
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: called two really good games with John Gruden. Gun, let's

612
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: give offensive coording to greg Olsen some credit. He is

613
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: stepping up to this challenge. So we look at rich Pisashia,

614
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: but we also look at you know, John Gruden's been

615
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: replaced as a play caller too, and that's gone well. Um,

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Speaker 1: they don't believe Derek always is the you know, toughest

617
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: you know guy into you know, and I know he's

618
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: been physically tough. I just think they think their times

619
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: where he isn't yours. Yeah, but I the pro Derek Carr,

620
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: and I've been saying this for years. Look at this

621
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: guy's comeback record. Look at start looking at the numbers

622
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: of how many times Derek Carr because I've been in

623
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: a lot of these games where he brought them back

624
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: in clutch situations and one if I was a player

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00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: on that team, I would believe in Derek Carr just

626
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: off that he is really really clutch. So it's exciting

627
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Raiders. John Bruden. You know,

628
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: when he first struck me the first time around, he

629
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: did something transformative. They had an organization that was paranoid.

630
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: The world's against us kind of Moby when things got

631
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: down and he came in and just said, shut up,

632
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna play hard. And they remember they beat the

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Speaker 1: what has gone on with the Raiders while he built

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Speaker 1: although in his absence, and then he beat them. But

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Speaker 1: maybe that's his legacy this time around, for all the

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Speaker 1: horrific overtones of his exit, maybe with Rich Masaccia and

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Speaker 1: Greg Olsen and Gus Bradley and those players, they're not

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Speaker 1: open in the wake of John Gruden's departure the way

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Speaker 1: Mark Davis seemed to be by the way, ask the NFL.

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Speaker 1: They have all the answers, you know, at a time

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Speaker 1: when it's called for bold statements and leadership, and you

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Speaker 1: know Al Davis's sense of equality and inclusion and social

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Speaker 1: justice and hearing me defend Al Davis, it's going to

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Speaker 1: make a lot of people laugh if you know our history.

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Speaker 1: But Al Davis was, you know, phenomenal at that stuff.

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Speaker 1: So Mark Davis kind of came off terrible, like the

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Speaker 1: whole world's against does late was better the second time.

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Speaker 1: But give credit to those players, those coaches. They put

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Speaker 1: their heads down and play hard. Yeah, all right, buddy,

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Speaker 1: you're done. That's it, all done, easy, Breezy, go to

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Speaker 1: the Warriors tonight. I'm going to the Warriors. I'm very

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Speaker 1: excited and thank you so much. I'll see you tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: all right, buddy, All right, everybody. Mike Silver some thoughts Monday.

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