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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, October fourteenth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number sixteenth three. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We are live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star. We've got so much to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: The sky is officially falling in Dallas and the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: get a loss to the to the New York Jets

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Speaker 1: twenty four, twenty two. Sorry, I was kind of moving around,

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Speaker 1: and I'd hate when when people don't start things off right,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get off to a bad start. He

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Speaker 1: kind of just messes up the whole show. Is that

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Speaker 1: like a microcosm of what we saw last night or yesterday?

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Speaker 1: UNI all season? Yeah, pretty much all season. So it's

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Speaker 1: been a lot. It's been a lot to deal with

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Speaker 1: kind of watching this team and trying to make heads

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Speaker 1: figured the best way to attack this thing today was

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna go down through some of the different

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Speaker 1: things that were problems for the Cowboys yesterday, and I

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Speaker 1: want you guys to talk about how that relates overall

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Speaker 1: to to kind of your opinion of how much it

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Speaker 1: affected the game, and really all these systematic things are

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Speaker 1: they just kind of things that you're seeing in spurts

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Speaker 1: at different times throughout the season. I really appreciate you

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Speaker 1: taking this approach because I have so much on my

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Speaker 1: mind that I'm worried that I'm gonna forget something too.

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Speaker 1: So he didn't even ask if we're doing Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: not known, Okay, tires, no bummed out, But we got

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about it, and we got to

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Speaker 1: help these guys get through this. So let's start first

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Speaker 1: with Nick. You mentioned it, the slow starts. Look at

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Speaker 1: the first half of the offense Cowboys punt field goal, punt,

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Speaker 1: turnover and downs, punt field goal again, just not nothing,

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Speaker 1: the first half, and then the second half field goal,

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Speaker 1: missfield goal, touchdown, touchdown. It's just it's they're getting off

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Speaker 1: the slow starts. It seems to be something that's continuing

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Speaker 1: to happen. The question to half for you guys is

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Speaker 1: do you think this is about preparation or is it

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Speaker 1: about execution? That was the big question in the locker

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Speaker 1: room last night. Where do you guys fall on that? Um?

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that it's been six games in

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Speaker 1: It didn't help that your best wide receiver is out

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Speaker 1: But Dave, I've been I go back and forth in

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Speaker 1: much influence Jason has over that. Sean Payton actually had

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Speaker 1: were a couple of decisions. You can you can look

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Speaker 1: at it and it leaves leaves you kind of scratching

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Speaker 1: your head a little bit. Obviously, on third and one

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Speaker 1: we talked about other things they could have done rather

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Speaker 1: than telegraphing they've running up the middle with Zeke. Now again,

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Speaker 1: they may have thought of it from the standpoint of Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is why we have Zach and this is why

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Speaker 1: we have Travis. But as I haven't mentioned, they are

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Speaker 1: not playing consistently over the last several games. Like Zach

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Speaker 1: and Travis that we've known in the past, they probably

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Speaker 1: who they've been, they probably have an easier time buying

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Speaker 1: four inches of space for the linebacker quarterback to push

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Speaker 1: the ball across the line. Yeah. Probably. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to take four steps back from the line and hand

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Speaker 1: it off to the running back. You just just fall

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Speaker 1: forward and get it. Sorry, no, no, that's fine. I

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Speaker 1: guess the question I have for you guys is, even

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Speaker 1: with that being said, whatever they did on third down,

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Speaker 1: do you think, and Nick, you've already chimed in, do

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Speaker 1: you think it was the right decision on fourth down

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Speaker 1: to go for it? Because if you look at like

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Speaker 1: the numbers there guys out there, to do these numbers,

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Speaker 1: everything says that in that situation you're the likelihood of

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Speaker 1: you getting is probably greater than the likelihood of you

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Speaker 1: not based upon where you were in the game though,

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Speaker 1: in the game situation, do you think the Cowboys should

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Speaker 1: have taken the points rather than going for the kick?

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Speaker 1: And don't forget Maha would have been the one that

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Speaker 1: would have been kicking, and so you have to factor

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Speaker 1: that into There's a lot of stuff you have to

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Speaker 1: factor in, like you know, uh, they're gonna get the

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Speaker 1: ball back after halftime, so you know, it sets you

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Speaker 1: up in a good position going into the half. I

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Speaker 1: don't I'm not ever gonna kill somebody too much for

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Speaker 1: going for it because I like the aggressiveness. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: analytics tell you that that that's not a bad decision.

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Speaker 1: Could they kicked the field goal maybe yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have hated that, but I don't. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to trash him for going for it because I get

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Speaker 1: so mad when coaches play too conservatively. It just again,

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Speaker 1: it shouldn't have gotten to that point. And then on

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Speaker 1: top of that, didn't not don't think that's the right

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Speaker 1: time to run the whatever that was Joe Burrow for

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Speaker 1: Lsuho does that all the time? Actually? Like the quarterback

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Speaker 1: speed the option power thing, like I guess, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, so, I mean, how that worked, we would

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Speaker 1: have been saying different, Well, the story would have been

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Speaker 1: different and the way we talked about them. So that's

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Speaker 1: kind of how it goes me. I'm not as upset

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Speaker 1: as them doing that. I'm more upset to the for

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Speaker 1: them getting to that point. You know, they should not

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Speaker 1: have been at that point and the things that they're

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Speaker 1: doing right now. I mean, it's just I'm just so

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Speaker 1: confused by this team. I'm really really confused. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what to make of it. I'm not ready to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna suck all season long, because I truly believe

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Speaker 1: that at some point they're gonna turn things around. But

485
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Speaker 1: the story of this team is like, oh, well they

486
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Speaker 1: are how this isn't is going They do it kind

487
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Speaker 1: of too late, you know, so this is where you

488
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Speaker 1: need to start making it happen and not wait later

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Speaker 1: in the season when you're facing teams are even harder

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Speaker 1: to go against. So I don't know, the big the

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Speaker 1: big and yeah, like you know, not to sound like

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Speaker 1: an apologist, this doesn't really mean anything other than that

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Speaker 1: they're nowhere near as good as we thought they were,

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Speaker 1: Like they were three and five last year. They get

495
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Speaker 1: they righted the ship, like that's all still in play.

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready to worry about that yet. But you

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Speaker 1: look at what's coming on the schedule, like NFC contenders,

498
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Speaker 1: Division games, AFC contenders, good teams like this is this

499
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Speaker 1: was not a good team. And to know that in

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Speaker 1: December when you're let's say eight and seven, and I

501
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Speaker 1: mean big deal, you lost to the Saints like they

502
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Speaker 1: are awesome, they're rolling without their so that's fine. You're

503
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Speaker 1: gonna lose games, but like to look back and be like, man,

504
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: we could be a full game up if we had

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Speaker 1: beaten the New York Jets. That is a tough pill

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Speaker 1: to swallow, and it will almost undoubtedly come back to

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Speaker 1: bite them in the butt, even if they climb into

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Speaker 1: the playoff race, it will almost undoubtedly come back to

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Speaker 1: bite them. You know what really pisses me off, And

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Speaker 1: I don't know why this comment piss me off so

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Speaker 1: much last night or just hearing about it. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a clean slate every week. It's a

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Speaker 1: clean slate. We're gonna focus on this upcoming team, which

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Speaker 1: I get that's what you kind of have to do,

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Speaker 1: but no, like, look at the crap you've been doing

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Speaker 1: in the past. It is a problem. And like when

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones was talking last night and he said he

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Speaker 1: made a comment about, well, we wont the turnover battle, Okay,

519
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Speaker 1: what did that do? Didn't really do anything. So it's like,

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Speaker 1: just I'd rather them speak about this team more honestly,

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Speaker 1: like they they're feeling for it. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: I understand why they speak the way they do, but

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Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know how to feel right now

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Speaker 1: about this team. I think what we all know at

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Speaker 1: this point after watching what we've watched is, at the

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Speaker 1: very best, this team, as they've performed this season is

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Speaker 1: an average team. They're three and three. They've beaten some

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Speaker 1: bad teams. I mean yeahve beaten some bad teams. They've

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Speaker 1: lost to some good teams. They've also lost to a

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Speaker 1: bad team. So at the best case scenario for what

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Speaker 1: they've shown this year, they are an average team. It

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Speaker 1: could you could say that they're worse than that after

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Speaker 1: losing to the Jets, but at the very best, right now,

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Speaker 1: they're performing like an average team and we'll see where

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Speaker 1: it goes from there. This doesn't necessarily predict the future,

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Speaker 1: but that's what we've seen to this point is that

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Speaker 1: they are very, very very average. Let's take our final break.

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Speaker 1: let's jump back in. Let's talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: the defense. Sam Donald had a really really great day.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three or thirty two seventy two pass or completion

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Speaker 1: point eight UM. And if I'm being honest, I kind

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Speaker 1: of was a little bit concerned about this last week

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Speaker 1: just because we hadn't really seen Sam Donald work in

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Speaker 1: that offense with Leveon Bell, who was a big addition

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Speaker 1: for them, but one game this season, and I thought

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Speaker 1: they played pretty decent against a really good Buffalo defense.

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Speaker 1: That being said, obviously, yesterday we saw a pretty good

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Speaker 1: offense from the standpoint of at LEAs how they moved

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Speaker 1: the ball. We'll see how the season progresses, and they

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Speaker 1: have New England this week. We'll see how as the

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Speaker 1: season progresses, how much of that was the Cowboys being

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Speaker 1: poor on defense and how much of that was really

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Speaker 1: their offense being able to click. But what did you

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Speaker 1: guys see and maybe how they were attacking the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: that created all of these extra all these opportunities in

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Speaker 1: their passing. They blocked, They blocked up front. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a team they gave up ten sacks against

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, and they gave up two to Robert Coyn

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Speaker 1: and that was it. And they had they did a

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Speaker 1: really nice job of keeping a pocket clean for him.

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Speaker 1: For the most part. They ran quick routes. I mean

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Speaker 1: that they threw that ball out quickly and those guys

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Speaker 1: made place. I think the Cowboys have issues that. I

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Speaker 1: mean when you think about what's no pressure up front,

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Speaker 1: The linebackers aren't playing well. The cornerbacks really weren't playing

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Speaker 1: well either. So in the safeties, I mean, Jeff Heath

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Speaker 1: made a terrible play to give up a ninety two

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Speaker 1: Another reason I don't kill them for that is say

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Speaker 1: what you will about Rod Marinelli's tenure here, Like they

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Speaker 1: don't get enough takeaways, blah blah blah, Like they don't

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Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, Like they don't give up the whole

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Speaker 1: thing in twelve freaking seconds. Like you're like, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: the worst case scenario, they'll grind it out and kick

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Speaker 1: a fuel goal and like you got some work to do,

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Speaker 1: but big deal, Like that's what you've come to expect

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Speaker 1: from Rod Marinelli's defense. And instead they gave up the

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Speaker 1: longest play in the NFL this season, I believe, the

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Speaker 1: longest play in Jets history. Um, and again, you know

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Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson, Jeff Jeff Heath has has had millions of

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Speaker 1: ups and downs in his Cowboys career. We don't need

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Speaker 1: to get into all of them right now. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: typically happen there. It happened against Detroit last year. Terrible

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Speaker 1: angle against Golden Tate, terrible angle yesterday. Anything, its ramps

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Speaker 1: against Robbie Anderson, just bad. Um. They kudos to the

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Speaker 1: Jets for game planning quick throws, which you know, like

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00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: I said, if the Jets can do it, I don't

641
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: know why the Cowboys can't do it. Um. And even

642
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 1: still and you know, it's it's Monday morning. I need

643
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: to go back and look. But you know I've been

644
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: the one championing to Marcus Lawrence and that the pass

645
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 1: rush has been playing well on tape and not so

646
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: much in the stats I didn't see yesterday. You know,

647
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: big big ups to all of y'all that that fight

648
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: with me about that because y'all win this week. Like

649
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't. Even even with all the stuff the Jets

650
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: were doing, they didn't. They didn't. It wasn't good enough.

651
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: By the way, they were not doubling him no yesterday

652
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: for the most part. They kipped him every once in

653
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: a while, but for the most part they were leaving

654
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: him out there on an island, and just I tweeted this.

655
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: You know, they got a sack on the second play

656
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: of the game, and they drew a couple of really

657
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: huge holding penalties, which it's not a sack, but it

658
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: effectively works as one because it backs the offense up

659
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: ten yards. But it felt like that went out the

660
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: window as the game wore on. UM. Well, in the

661
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: Jets second drive, well they got okay, what this felt

662
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: to me like they were almost back to back, which

663
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: they weren't really, but it was all while the Jets

664
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: had the ball, and you got a penalty on Cheeto,

665
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: then the one on antone Woods that I'm like, what

666
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: are you doing? Man, chill out? And then you get

667
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: another one four field goals on the same drive. The

668
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: four penalties, I said, that's exactly touchdown that or something.

669
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: Check out the last drive at the game. Oh yeah,

670
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean we were right behind that side judge and

671
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: he was just holding the flag. I mean like he

672
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: was just like ready, like let me say this about that.

673
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: Um And I know we argued a little bit before

674
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: the show, but to me, if I get it that

675
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: that point in the game, I'm not calling past interference

676
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: on on Witten. I understand that the two at the

677
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: passengers for the two point conversion, but it's it's in

678
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: place now to to look at it. And this is

679
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: the biggest play of the game. I mean, they score,

680
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: the game's tied. If they don't, the game is over.

681
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: Just like that. So just you know, humor me and

682
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: say we're gonna look at it, but we're going to

683
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: look at it because it's a booth review. They looked

684
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: at it and they said no passing interference. Just tell

685
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: me that. But the same with the past interference on

686
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson. Are you sure they didn't because everything that

687
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: happens after the two minute is all reviewed from upstairs,

688
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: or I should tell us then they should say no. No.

689
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is they just they watch every play

690
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: in the last two minutes is the way I understand it,

691
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: and they all to all penalties after the two minutes

692
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: are not reviewed from upstairs, and they immediately like they

693
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: look at every since. No, no, not penalties, but they

694
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: review everything. Right, I don't know that especially well tell me,

695
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean, then then stop the game for just a

696
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: second and just say that the plays under review, and

697
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: then just say that's all I'm saying the same with

698
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson's past interference. They should have done that, I

699
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: don't think. I think the difference though, is I don't

700
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: think they can actually call a penalty from up there.

701
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: It's not they're gonna stop the game and say, oh,

702
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: there should have been a penalty on that play. Yes

703
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: they can, because if if they didn't, wait, what about

704
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: the Saints Ramps game? What would have happened? Then they

705
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: would have had to call the game and say, you

706
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: know what, he speared him in the head. That's kind

707
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: of a penalty. We're going to call that, right, That's

708
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: what would have happened. Honestly, I don't know what this

709
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: new rule. I don't know if that's that was what

710
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: it was designed to do. Because if not, then then

711
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: that play against Saints and Rams is going to happen again,

712
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: because yes, you know what that is all I'm saying

713
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: this is what if the guy would have grabuate you know,

714
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: Whitten's jersey? He didn't, he didn't, but what if he

715
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: would have had that? Just Just look at it real quick,

716
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: because if not, the game is over. I still have

717
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: yet to see an NFL game where someone from a

718
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: booth calls down a penalty. That's what I haven't seen,

719
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: So I don't know that that would be the rule

720
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: that they could do that that if not something that

721
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: was not called on the field they called out and

722
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: say no, that was the Saints Rams game. That I

723
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: understand you, I understand you. All I'm saying is I

724
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: have not seen that happen in the end on Cedric Wilson.

725
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: They should have looked at it because it was a touchdown.

726
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: They should have said, are you sure that that happened? Oh,

727
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: that certainly was a back haul in my opinion. But

728
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. I can't bring myself to care

729
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: about the Whitten thing because it's for me, that's the

730
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: epitome of let him play, Like I can just look

731
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: at it. Just tell me, yeah, we looked at it.

732
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: If that's what would make you feel better, that's fine.

733
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: But like if I as a fan of good defense,

734
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: I constantly feel like defenses aren't allowed to do anything

735
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: anymore and it cheapens the game in my opinion. So

736
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: like I thought that was a good no call, I've

737
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: got no problem with it. I don't need to get

738
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: into the OPI people are mad at me because like,

739
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: I don't think that was a terrible call either. Honestly,

740
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: I think much like defensive pass interference, like did Anthony

741
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: Brown interfere on the play in the Packers game last week?

742
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: Probably not, but he didn't play the ball, and that's

743
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: what the refs are looking for. Cedric Wilson, I thought

744
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: looked like a guy who was more so trying to

745
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: get in the way than runner out, Like he wasn't

746
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: looking back towards the quarterback. He didn't really look like

747
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: he was running arout. I think refs looked for that.

748
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: Maybe that's not what he was doing, but that's what

749
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: it looked like to me. Again, And honestly, rudos to

750
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: the Jets defenders because I think they kind of sold

751
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: it too, like Adams, you know, probably ran into him

752
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: on purpose to make it look more like a pick

753
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: than it was. Problems. If that's the way that it's

754
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: being called, it needs to be called consistently. Because there

755
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: was a play earlier in the game. It was third

756
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: and four, the Jets at the ball um they did

757
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: the exact same thing. Brown gets rubbed and you remember

758
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: he goes downfield. I think it was who was that Crowder?

759
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: Twenty four yards. Yeah, it was exact same thing. And

760
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: that's my problem with with these rub routes. It's like

761
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: referees decide when they want to call him and when

762
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: they don't. You watch a Patriots game, and I know

763
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: we've spent a lot of time talking about referencing Patriots,

764
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: but it happens almost every single play. They have all

765
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: these games where they're rubbing these guys, and I'm like,

766
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to watch as a fan when there's

767
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: not consistency and how things are being called. You're you're,

768
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: you're right about that, and that's rub routes are frustrating

769
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: because like it's it's a staple of offenses, these datas

770
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: and and I don't have a problem with it. Um,

771
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't think Jason could have challenged it though. That's

772
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: the problem I have. I don't think he can. He

773
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: can it's a touchdown touchdown because wouldn't scored, so it's

774
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: a touchdown allows are reviewed from the booth. So that's

775
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: another problem too. I mean, you couldn't be able to

776
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: challenge that, and again it's probably not gonna matter, and

777
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's probably gunshy with challenges. Now, he said

778
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: that this morning his radio call, he was like, no,

779
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: when it comes to these offensive pass interferences, I mean,

780
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it's very well documented that the league, he said,

781
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: the League has actually told him, has articulated to him

782
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: that this is going to be a very very high

783
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: standard by which they would apply to reverse a call

784
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: or to make that call after the fact. And so

785
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: it's it's just not it's not in the best interests

786
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: all the time to actually throw the flag, even if

787
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: you could. The thing for me is that you cannot.

788
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: You cannot have watched this game from beginning to end

789
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: and think that two calls or no calls by the

790
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: officials or absolutely. I just so what they deserved what

791
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: they got yesterday. Honestly, they deserved what they got yesterday

792
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: because they had a lot of opportunities to write those wrongs, right,

793
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: they missed opportunities yesterday. So you still put it back

794
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: on them that they just didn't play good enough game

795
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: to way I get true. But I mean I do

796
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: think that a call here or there, I mean, like

797
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: the third the third and one play, I mean that

798
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: that was probably the difference in the game. If they

799
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: get that first down, they probably score a touchdown. They're

800
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: not getting a touchdown seventeen seconds later, you know, down

801
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: the ninety two yards. I mean, yeah, I think that

802
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: isn't a difference in the game. But just like you

803
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: say that, they didn't deserve to win, just like they

804
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: say that. I'll move on to the next topic that

805
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: I wanted to hit, which is Maher. He had a

806
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: forty yard field goal. Forty yard field goal changes this game.

807
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: It changes the complexions game if you just look at

808
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: the score. Yeah, it changes the outcome of the game.

809
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: And that's a field goal that should be makeable for

810
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: an NFL kicker if he man is the forty yarder.

811
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: Though he made that forty yarder for you, and the

812
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: sixty two was short. Like, no, we're not even talking

813
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: about Brett Maher today. It's the same thing. Three point

814
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: tier or three point tier. I mean, yeah, he missed

815
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: the forty. But you have to you have to deal

816
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: with it because you know, I believe this, he gets

817
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: cut tomorrow for who Bret Maher is gonna get claimed

818
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: by somebody? Okay, And here's my question on that. Here's

819
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: my question because I believe wholeheartedly there isn't a lot

820
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: out there on the way for a while obviously, But

821
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: do you think that the Cowboys made a mistake by

822
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: not going and finding somebody that can provide more competition

823
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: that maybe they find a guy during training camp that's

824
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: a bit more reliable than Brett maher Is. Yeah. Probably

825
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: My guy, Cole Tracy still is. He's getting ready for

826
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: the XFL Draft. And I can't make a sixty two yarder.

827
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: He can make like a fifty five yarder. Take that,

828
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: and if you can be consistent forty and in, I'm

829
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: definitely in on that. I'm with Nick though, and listen,

830
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: it's not good enough. He's like, he's a seventy five percent,

831
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: eighty percent kicker. That's not good enough. But it's what

832
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: they have right now. And we talk about it with

833
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: other players all the time. Is you got to put

834
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: your guys in position to succeed. If you're asking a

835
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: seventy five percent kicker to kick four times in a

836
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: game because you can't score touchdowns, that's probably what you're

837
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: gonna get. Killer that drive, right there was an absolute

838
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: killer to do that on the twenty three yard line

839
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: and to get one yard coming out of the fourth

840
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: quarter to get one yard, so you're trying to throw

841
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: a deep pastor Winton, who's never gonna make that play.

842
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I like winning them, you know, as much

843
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: as anyone. But they put him in situations. And I

844
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: said this to Dave in the press box. What year

845
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: in his career does he make that play? Does he

846
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: go up deslike and make it? Okay, you're not gonna

847
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: do that. That's not a smart play. Definitely not in

848
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: that kind of situation. Right, and then then a second

849
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: one or second and ten, one yard, third and nine

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Speaker 1: incomplete forty yard kick. I think I put my computer up.

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Speaker 1: I was. I was like, it told I mean, no, no.

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Speaker 1: As soon as he got the third down, you said,

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Speaker 1: if Mars the Maha has to kick this field goal,

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Speaker 1: he's missing it. And you're like, if he made the

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Speaker 1: sixty two, the just the law of averages, he's not

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Speaker 1: making this. And law of averages again, is you know

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Speaker 1: he's he's been hitting seventy five to eighty percent, he's

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Speaker 1: struggled from close range, he's already made three. Like, I'm

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Speaker 1: a big believer in that stuff, and I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to tell you that you should be happy or satisfied

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Speaker 1: with the job that Brett Maher is doing but like

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Speaker 1: we all knew it. Everybody here was like, well, like

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Speaker 1: he's bound to miss this one because he's made the

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Speaker 1: other three to miss and then but but he did

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Speaker 1: it anyway because you aren't good enough down in that

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Speaker 1: part of the field. And I struggle to blame Brett

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Speaker 1: Maher for that because the offense put him in a

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Speaker 1: position to fail more or less. All right, we appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys joining us. I know it was a lot

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Speaker 1: for twenty or third will we will pick some of

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Speaker 1: these topics back up. There are a couple of things

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Speaker 1: we didn't get to today. We're gonna hit back up tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: so make sure you join us at eleven thirty for

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Speaker 1: more talk on this game and more talk on the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys for this season. Till then for Nick Even, Dave

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