1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Hey that folks. It is Saturday, March twenty first, and 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: headlines and entertainment matters and pr matters have now given 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: way to legal matters as the fallout continues from the 4 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: cancelation of the Taylor Frankie Paul lead season of The 5 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: bat Thurreat. With that, welcome to this episode of Amy 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: and TJ. Yes here on this Saturday. Yes, or Tomorrow's 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: supposed to be a big premiere day for the bat Threat. 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: That is not happening. And rode some of the headlines 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: or one thing about the cancelation, And now we're starting 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: to see some drips and drabs of maybe some legal 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: matters starting to bubble up, including for her personally in 12 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: terms of her family robes. 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: Yes, a lot of people have been running to lawyers 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: for some legal advice, as you predicted earlier. Yes, this 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: is where the story turns next. And first, Yes, it 16 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: is personal and painful for Taylor Frankie Paul because Dakota Mortensen, 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: who was her ex, who is in that video, who 18 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 2: she's now under investigation with for another domestic violence incident. 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: Well, he went to court. 20 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: We told you on Thursday when that video was released, 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: asked a judge for a protective order and asked for 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 2: sole custody of his son temporarily. 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: Well guess what he got both. 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: How old is this this one two years old? 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 2: In fact, the video came out on Ever's second birthday, 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: March nineteenth, and so he was with Dakota. 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: He is staying with Dakota. 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: And even worse, Babe, there's a hearing scheduled for April seventh. 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul cannot have contact with her son until then. 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: The actual quote from the judge was, no parent time 31 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: is allowed until the scheduled hearing. 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: Wow, that's I mean, you could talk about the show 33 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: all day long, robes, but that is a devastating blow 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: for anybody. Yes, you could say this is all of 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: her own doing and that's fine, but that's devastating and 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: things are starting to pile up like that. But that's 37 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: awful to here, and it's probably the right move, right. 38 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how anyone, I mean, a judge, this 39 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: is what the judge is supposed to do, make this 40 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: kind of a call. I don't know how it's anyone 41 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: can kind of right now disagree with that. Yes, she 42 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: lost temporarily. 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: Two of the biggest shows on the planet right now, 44 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: or at least temporarily, she's lost them, and almost certainly 45 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: at least one of them has gone forever. 46 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: And to now lose custody of her son. 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: And I think just the idea that you can't even 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: have supervised visits, you can't even lay eye on your son, 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: because in that protective order that Dakota got, it is 50 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: ordered now that Taylor Frankie Paul must stay one hundred 51 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: feet away from Dakota, which includes his home, which is 52 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: where her son is. And she also can't own any weapons. 53 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: Those are the conditions of the protective order. And the 54 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: temporary customers. 55 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: Don't know what the judge saw, but the judge saw 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: enough to think you're enough of a danger to another 57 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: human being that you have to stay away. These things 58 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: aren't taken necessarily lightly Romes. But a judge looked at 59 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: evidence and found her to be a threat, but a 60 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: network looked at her and did not. That's going to 61 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: be another part of the story. And Rose, you just 62 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: said something like she had two of the biggest shows. 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: She's lost one for sure, Hashi is what's going to 64 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: be my only question? 65 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: No? 66 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: No, I mean I think I'm just saying, God, how 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: would they ever? But we pointed out and several articles 68 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: that have been popping up over the weekend have also 69 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: pointed out that in their official statement, in Disney's official statement, 70 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: they said at this time when they talked about canceling 71 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: or postponing the show, they put in the phrase at 72 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: this time, and they talked about what's possibly probably. 73 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: Going on behind the scenes. 74 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: They A lot of folks believe that executives gave themselves 75 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: a a possible life raft. If, for instance, the court 76 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: decides in Utah not to pursue charges against Taylor Frankie Paul, 77 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: if somehow other information comes out that makes her look better, 78 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: or we can understand perhaps the context that she's been 79 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: talking about, or if anything changes or shifts, possibly could 80 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: they put this on in a later date. 81 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: It was one of the first things. Yes, other people 82 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: are writing about it now, but Robes we were in 83 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: the middle of it and we were recording when this 84 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: news came down and we saw that ABC statement, and 85 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: it was one of the first things that jumped out. Yes, 86 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 1: so those words did not have to be placed in there, 87 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: but they gave themselves a possibility of still what Robes 88 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: making their money back on this show that they are 89 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: somebody's going to lose a lot of money on. Don't 90 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: know who's going to sue whom and how that's going 91 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: to work. But Robes to think that they make sure 92 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: what were the three words at this time, at this time, 93 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: those three words could save them tens of millions of 94 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: dollars if there. 95 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: There's any chance they want to keep that window cracked open. 96 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: Okay, before you move on to the next thing, let 97 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: me ask you on that point. She doesn't get charged 98 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: on this second incident, what difference does it make in 99 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: their decision to put. 100 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: It on because they would possibly say that this happened 101 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: three years ago. 102 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: She has served her time. Her probation, I guess is 103 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 3: up this summer. 104 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: A court decided she did not either violate that probation 105 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: or do anything wrong. And although it's toxic and messy, 106 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: this is something we already knew about and we've seen 107 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: her turn her life around. 108 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: Okay that I mean, that's me just guessing what they 109 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: could say. 110 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that is Okay, that's tough to say. 111 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I think there is a very small chance that 112 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: that's going to happen. 113 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: See, but now you're putting it out there. At least 114 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 1: we've talked about it before we came on here. Now 115 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: I am blown I just have to admit by I'm 116 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: blown away of how much Disney ABC are willing to 117 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: stand by someone who is a domestic abuser who has 118 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: been proven. Now you can people do their crime, You 119 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: do your time, and it's over. You can move forward. 120 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: And that is fine. That again, they are not supposed 121 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: to be you do your time, Broes. You shouldn't be 122 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: denied a life of whatever dignity and ability to make money. 123 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: It's just that this is the person we, as Disney, 124 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: a family company, choose to stand by and to defend 125 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: and to put on a pedestal someone who that behavior 126 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: came out of fine, but for a family company, or 127 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: to say, we're willing like all the people out there 128 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: who don't have that video and that history and that background, 129 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: and that the documented history of poor decisions in her 130 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: love life, who doesn't have a documented history now of 131 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 1: domestic violence that we actually saw they had other options 132 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: for them to triple quadruple down and still stand next 133 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: to her. Given I just I am money is it Robes? 134 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense? 135 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: Money and trying to save face. 136 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: If there's any chance for them to say, see, it 137 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: wasn't she wasn't that bad. 138 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: It wasn't as bad as you thought. 139 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So now their reputation is they're banking it on 140 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 1: her reputation getting better. So that's what's gonna make Disney 141 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: look better is if everybody looks at her and thinks, oh, okay, 142 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: she turned her life around and we have better context. Now. 143 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? 144 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: That's what that was the only thing I could think 145 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: of that. 146 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: There's yes, it's mostly money, obviously, but there is reputation 147 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: as well. 148 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: I robes. The part I'm blown away by is the 149 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: reputational part. They already know what their reputation is. Why, okay, 150 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: let's get past that they picked her. I'm going now, 151 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: with all this out, Why haven't they distanced themselves. Why 152 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: haven't they come out and said that is a boring 153 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: behavior your Why holy hell, they haven't said that? Oh 154 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: shit to me? I mean, wait a minute, we missed 155 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: it somewhere. 156 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: No, they haven't. They are leaving the window open for 157 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: them to error. 158 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: Have they not condemned what we saw in the video? No, 159 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: wait a minute, do you have. 160 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: Their statement ENLiGHT the recent development. 161 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, baby, No, no, I'm missing so we 162 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: gotta go look this that I'm missing something. There is 163 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: no way they have not come out and said domestic 164 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: violence is bad. 165 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: No, this is what they said. 166 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: Oh we miss something. 167 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: No, this is their only statement. 168 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: There's no way. 169 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: This is their only statement. This is their only statement. 170 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: Wait now I have a okay, right when I pulled 171 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: it up. 172 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: But you get what I'm saying here. No matter what, 173 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: no matter who you are, we all looked and saw 174 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: that even if you're a family member of hers, even 175 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: if you're the greatest supporter of hers, you could still 176 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: support her and say what we saw in that video 177 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: is awful. Nothing like that should ever ever happen again. 178 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: But to so, why then what's the calculation there? 179 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: Robes, it's there. They're giving themselves an. 180 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Option to not even condemned domestic violence. 181 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: But they're giving themselves the option until they actually see 182 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 2: what the court decides. They are giving themselves an option. 183 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: So that's where they are, and they have not at 184 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: all condemned the video. 185 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: Okay, that is uh. And again I guess if you 186 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: all haven't noticed, as we're sitting here. That has come 187 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: not as news to me necessarily, but I'm just getting 188 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: that realization right now that I had not had before this, 189 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: that they have not done done. So, look, they are 190 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: leaving room rogues. We talk about tens of millions of dollars, 191 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: whatever it is that's possibly on the line. What is 192 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: it worth, what's the reputation worth? And time will pass? 193 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: Will it not row? If they survived all kinds of 194 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: scandals on this show, they will continue to do so. 195 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: In light of the newly released video just service today, 196 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: we have made the decision to not move forward with 197 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: the new season of The Bachelorette at this time, and 198 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: our focus is on supporting the family. 199 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: Period. That is the only thing that came out of Disney, ABC, 200 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: Hulu period. 201 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: They can do what they want. 202 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 3: That is done. 203 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: I'm I'm okay. They don't have to, they don't need 204 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: I don't understand that in the least bit. So they 205 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: have not condemned what we've been talking about this baby, 206 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: Why do we see violence when it's coming from a 207 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: woman towards a man so differently. It's almost bubblegum the 208 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: way it's been treated in these conversations. She went on Gma, 209 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: what do you want to say about this thing, this 210 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: domestic violence thing. Well, you know, it's been kind of heavy. 211 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: I just want to get through it. You know, it's 212 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: a big sciting time for me. What are we talking about, baby? 213 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: Well, if you're annoyed by that, you, I mean, look, 214 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: we've got some word about just confused what some of 215 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: the what some of the contestants are considering who were 216 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: going to be featured and showcased on this season twenty two. 217 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: But we also heard from the man rumored to be 218 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 2: the final Rose recipient and from several of the other 219 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: contenty Dougie. 220 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 3: Yes, Doug Mason, and he said this is what his 221 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: reaction was. 222 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: He actually made a video after the video was released 223 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: and said, I'm just sending out prayers to Taylor because 224 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: that was her moment and her moment was blocked. All 225 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: we can do right now is just be hopeful. I'm 226 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 2: headed off to run to watch the sunrise. I hope 227 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: you guys have a great day and let's stay positive 228 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: and show nothing but support for people in need. 229 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you should. You should support the people in 230 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: your life that you love, that you know, even when 231 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: they're they've done wrong. And when they're having a hard time. Yes, 232 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: I can't disagree with that rooms, but he was the only. 233 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: One who gave a specific shout out of support to Taylor. 234 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: The rest of them, obviously the people in their lives 235 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: knew that they were on the show. They couldn't say 236 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 2: how they did or how far they got, so a 237 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: lot of the men were just online saying I'm doing okay, 238 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: hope to share more soon, thanks to everyone who's reached out. 239 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: Everyone's like, I appreciate everyone reaching out, grateful for the experience. 240 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: So they all kept things The other men who put 241 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: things on social media kept things very generic, very positive, 242 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: very hopeful. 243 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: Doug was the only. 244 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 2: One who specifically supported and defended in a way Taylor. 245 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: I get it, I get her friends and her family. 246 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: They should embrace her, with her arms around her and 247 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: help her. She I'm sure she's having a terrible time. 248 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure she's feeling awful right now. And I just 249 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm just confused. I'm just it's just, you know what 250 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: robes is just and I get it. It's okay. There 251 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: are different rules with different folks with different looks. But 252 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: if Rachel Lindsay had thrown three metal chairs at a 253 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: guy on film. Okay, that's just it. It's nothing you 254 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: can ever does. It's okay, they're different rules, but it's 255 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: it's happening, and she should be supported. I'm just saying 256 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: other people who who have difficulty and have had difficult 257 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: times don't get. What I am noticing now is Disney 258 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: putting their arms around someone who's domestic abuser. And it's 259 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: just it's because she looks the way she looks. They 260 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: would have put their arms around a man who had 261 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: been accused of anything remotely related to domestic violence. But 262 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: I just I need somebody to say I'm genuinely saying this. 263 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: I want somebody to say to me, TJ, it's different. 264 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: Let us explain why domestic violence is different for man 265 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: different for a woman. Okay, and tell me why because 266 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: of that difference, we as a society and we as 267 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: a company don't mind embracing, holding up, cherishing, helping supporting 268 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: a woman who has been accused of and even has 269 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: a guilty plea having to do with domestic violence. I'm 270 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: genuinely robes. I'm not outraged. I'm genuinely trying to understand 271 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: and this is a very difficult story for me to 272 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: get my head around. Yeah. 273 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: Well, and they have obviously made the choices they've made 274 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: so far in their support and slightly distancing themselves but 275 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: leaving room open for the relationship to continue. But there 276 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: is more legal action that could be headed ABC, Disney, 277 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: even Warner Brothers way, because not all of the contestants 278 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: had nice things to say about their experience or at 279 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: least are happy and positive about the turn of events. 280 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: All right, we're continuing here on Amy and TG. I 281 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: can't get that image out of my head now, Rachel 282 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: Lindsay throwing a chair, right, Rachel, love you, But I 283 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: didn't need that image in my head, of course. Rachel 284 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: Lindsay was the first black bacheloreat Juri herself. My goodness, 285 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: I was twenty sixty. Oh, my goodness, that was such 286 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: a long time ago now, But what's next? World, We 287 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: knew this was probably going to get into the courts 288 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: fairly soon. 289 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: Nothing official yet, nothing official yet, and we don't have 290 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: the names. But look, TMZ has broken this story wide 291 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: open from the beginning. They're the ones who got their 292 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: hands on the video, released it and certainly have been 293 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: on top of the reporting. So one of their latest 294 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: reports now says that five of those male contestants who 295 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: were competing for a rose from Taylor are now considering 296 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: you who predicted it legal action against ABC and Warner 297 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: Brothers Discovery that's the company that produces the show, because 298 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: they say some of these. 299 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: Men quit their jobs, they put their lives on. 300 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: Hold in the anticipation and expectation that they would get 301 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: a big boost in visibility, in marketability, in basically an 302 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: ability to make money based on their social media profiles 303 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: by being on this show. They gave up other opportunities, 304 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: They gave up jobs, they gave up whatever livelihood to 305 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: be on the show with an expectation that the show 306 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: would air. 307 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: Okay, that's on you, Pleia. If you came into this 308 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: thinking it was an opportunity for you to make money, 309 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: to gain clout or get more followers, you weren't there 310 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: for the right reason anyway. Some would say, well, TJ, 311 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: of course, that's the only reason people go on reality 312 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: shows now, But why is it? Robes is it? We 313 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: were caught up in it for so long because we 314 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: were at GMA and dealt with it for so long. 315 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: I thought we'd be jaded. But it's the opposite for 316 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: me right now, because of this, I am disappointed because 317 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: the show did kind of lend itself to fantasy, to love, 318 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: to possibility, to this adventure of finding love that was 319 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: kind of authentic, that everything about her casting flies in 320 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: the face of And now that you let me see 321 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: that last episode of season four of Secret Lives, we 322 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: were bamboozled. 323 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, you and I do like watching 324 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: these relationship reality shows ninety Day Fiance, etc. But you're 325 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: actually looking at people and you may question the motives 326 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: of why people want to be with each other, but 327 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: this is a legitimate couple trying to get married. And 328 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: whether or not they're trying to get married to come 329 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: to the United States is something. 330 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 3: You get to figure out. 331 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: But at least you're watching an authentic situation unfold versus 332 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: a manufactured situation unravel, which is what I think now 333 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: they're looking to try and do in a lot of 334 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: these shows. Because even Rachel Lindsay, as you mentioned, yes 335 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 2: she ended up getting divorced recently, but she married, Yes, she. 336 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 3: Married her final rose guy, Like, this is something that 337 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 3: we saw, and we have seen plenty. There are babies 338 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: that have been born. 339 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: Yes, there are even our guy who they ended up 340 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: breaking up, But Matt and Rachel went on for quite 341 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: a while five years ago in that relationship, so it's legit. 342 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: But to your point about these guys, if they're upset 343 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: now they want to sue because hey, the show didn't air, 344 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: I think there might be things in there that they 345 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: don't have an argument there necessarily, come on, you did 346 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: you but nobody told you to quit your job? 347 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: Correct, And I don't think that's going to be an 348 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: argument that could potentially hold up. But the other one 349 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: perhaps could. The other argument is and part of the 350 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: reason why many legal experts believe some of these men 351 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 2: could sue because they can claim that ABC and Warner 352 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: Brothers put them in an unsafe work environment, aka in 353 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 2: intimate settings alone with Paul, the fantasy suite, vacations, bringing 354 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: her home to your parents, you know, all of that stuff. 355 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: So when I read the word intimate, it hit differently. 356 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: Yes, a lot of times I don't know what happened 357 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: in this season, but a lot of times the contestant, 358 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: whoever the bachelor or bachelorette is, has sex with these 359 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 2: men and women. Yes, So now you're assuming you're operating 360 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: under the I think reasonable belief that a company like 361 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: Disney has vetted the person who you are with. 362 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: You put it in their hands. I'm sure you sign 363 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: all kinds of shuff they sign the way and waiver 364 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: for this and whatever it may be. But even short 365 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: of robes sex, when you say intimate, we are in 366 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 1: private settings, I actually have this woman in my home 367 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: with my mother, with my little niece, with who knows 368 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: what it may be. You all allowed me to bring 369 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: this firecracker into my safe setting. That's not fair to them. 370 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: That might be a legitimate argument robes. And also it 371 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: should be noted Rose there's no way, and I think 372 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: it has to be the case. These guys, it's not 373 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: like they found out, Oh Taylor Frankie Paul is going 374 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: to be the new bats threat, let me go sign up. 375 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: These guys didn't have a say in who they were handed. 376 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: No, No, the process that wouldn't work if that were 377 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: the case, because then you could see men try to 378 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: manipulate the situation and figure out whether or not they 379 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: wanted to do it based on who the contestant's going 380 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 2: to be. 381 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: That's not how it works. 382 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: So yeah, they were they walked into it blind understanding 383 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: that the show is what it is, but also expecting 384 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: that the show was going to hold true to what 385 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: it's bent, which is a show that's trying to find 386 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: a relationship that lasts marriage material. 387 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: And you put me in a situation, in an environment 388 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: alone with a woman who was capable of this without 389 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: getting my okay. 390 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: Who also, as you absolutely knew because Hulu the Crossover. 391 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 3: Had slept with her ex the night before she came 392 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: on the show. 393 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: Where do you only ask you about that? Yeah, it 394 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: might staying, it might suck. 395 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: Does it matter, Yes, because to me, that says you're 396 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: not serious about the process. And now I've now put 397 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: myself in a situation where I'm supposed to believe that 398 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: this person is ready for love with another. 399 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: As a viewer, as a contestant, As. 400 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: A contestant and a viewer, I think both. I think both. 401 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: It feels really really crappy. 402 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's I don't know, in the real world, the 403 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: day before your first date with a new guy that 404 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: you eventually have a relationship with, if the day before 405 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: that date you had hooked up with your ex one 406 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: last time, we don't have any right to it might sting, 407 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: It might suck. But really, when you put in the 408 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: real world, I mean, what right do I have to 409 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: say what you did before we actually met or connected 410 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: or started dating. 411 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: Fine, but you didn't go like It's a little different 412 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: when you're going into a show with the intention of 413 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 2: finding love and you're still She's saying you're in love 414 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: with your ex. 415 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: She's trying to get it out of her system, get 416 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: it out of the way. But that was hard to watch. 417 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: If you will haven't seen I'm promoting a Disney show now, 418 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: If you haven't seen the last episode of season four 419 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, the day leading up 420 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: to her leaving to go to shoot the Bachelorette, and 421 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 1: then after she gets there, opes that phone call between 422 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: the two of them, right before she gets out in 423 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: front of ABC cameras to take the Bachelorette. You will go, wow, 424 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: they really pulled one over on us. 425 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: Yes, and if yeah, if you want full perspective about 426 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: what's going on, watch that episode from start to finish. 427 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 3: You will think. 428 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 2: I guarantee you you will have a very formed opinion 429 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 2: about Taylor, about Hulu, about Disney, ABC. You will have 430 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: a very formed and informed opinion. Maybe in a way 431 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: you don't now if you haven't seen that last episode. 432 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: By the way, her Mormon Wives co stars. 433 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: Two of them have spoken out. I wanted to get 434 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: out because that was something new as well. Layla Taylor, 435 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: We've actually met her and spoken with her. She's been 436 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: open about abuse in her first marriage on this show, 437 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: so she put up on Instagram when all of this 438 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: came out and the Bachelorette was canceled, she said, my 439 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 2: personal history as a survivor makes it impossible for me 440 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: to stay silent. I stand firmly against domestic violence in 441 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 2: any form. I am keeping her children in my thoughts, 442 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: hoping for their safety above all else. 443 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 3: She went much further than Disney did. 444 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: Shit hard. That was as far it was as was needed. 445 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, as a company, it was her friend. 446 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: As a company, we stand against domestic violence. 447 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: Of why would they not have put that disclaimer? 448 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: Every single article, by the way, that you see written 449 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: has a disclaimer about domestic violence. The only thing I've 450 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: seen on this story that doesn't is the statement from 451 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: ABC News. 452 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: Sweetheart, that was a choice. Then tell me why it mattered. 453 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: Help me understand why a company like that, why it mattered. 454 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: What they didn't say now, in their estimation, it was 455 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: smarter to not put it in there. Why is what 456 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: I'm asking. 457 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: Is then they'd have to acknowledge that they left up royally. 458 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: But they can just acknowledge without saying anything domestic violence. 459 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: We stand against domestic violence in any but if you 460 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: say that, then why did you hire it? 461 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 3: Correct? 462 00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: I don't. 463 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 2: It's really tough and Miranda Miranda Hope also put this 464 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 2: on her Instagram. She was in the Swinging scandal and 465 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: admitted it with Taylor. She said, I've honestly been a 466 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: little at a loss for words trying to process this all. 467 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: Everything has been really heavy to see everyone likes that 468 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: word heavy. 469 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: Domestic violence and abuse of any kind is something I 470 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 2: take very seriously as a human and especially a mother. 471 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 2: I cannot support that kind of behavior. My heart is 472 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 2: with the children, and I hope they're safe, supported and 473 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: surrounded by love. 474 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: So her two co stars. 475 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: Who were friends with her, came out with much stronger language. 476 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, baby, you just blew my mind. Yeah, Disney ABC 477 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: cannot publicly take a stand against domestic violence while also 478 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: supporting her publicly. Oh my god. 479 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: It's all like defending on you. 480 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: Oh why Yeah, sweetheart, It's not a hard thing to say. 481 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: And everybody's on the same page that domestic violence is bad, 482 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: aren't we. 483 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we can all collectively say that out. 484 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: They refused to say they made a. 485 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: Choice, because it's not just what they said, it's what 486 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: they didn't say. 487 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: You know, I think it is all now just landing 488 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: how deliberate that was and how actually scary. 489 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something stupid right now. It's gonna be stupid. 490 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: Just let me say it. Is there any chance it 491 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: was an oversight? Do we need to leave room for 492 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: They put the statement out and we didn't go through 493 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: it that deeply or take it that seriously, And it 494 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: was just thrown out and they didn't think about it 495 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: as much as we are saying they gave it thought. 496 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: To stand out higher pr team. I don't believe it. 497 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Disney will not stand up against domestic violence right now. 498 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: They won't publicly state it. 499 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: No, or they haven't, because if you do that, you 500 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: could never let the show air. Correct Jesus Christ, I 501 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: am naives elle. I am naive as hell. So we 502 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: did not start this episode with me having that light 503 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: bulb moment. 504 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 3: We watched it all happen. I heard it all happen 505 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 3: on the microphone. 506 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: Yes, you're like, wait a minute, wait, wait a minute, 507 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: wait a minute, this is landing. 508 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: Now to what you're saying, Oh my god. 509 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: And then when you hear what her co stars had 510 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: to say, it actually kind of brings it home even more. 511 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: Right, I don't know what the next thing is. What 512 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: happening on Monday? Something else? 513 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: Well, no, she doesn't have a she doesn't have a 514 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: hearing until April seventh. 515 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: Okay, oh my word. All right, well, folks, what's in place? 516 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: Where they airing? In place? 517 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: On the American Idol rerun runs on Sunday this Sunday. 518 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 2: Don't know what happens next Sunday, but I hear they 519 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: might need some content. 520 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: But I hear they have a show just sitting waiting 521 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: to run as soon as she gets clear of this 522 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: latest domestic bio investigation fresh crossed. All right, the folks, 523 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: we appreciate you. I am sorry y'all had to go 524 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: along this journey with me of oh wow, that so 525 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: we should have led with that. Why don't you tell 526 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: me ahead of time? Oh my god. They did not 527 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: simply say we're against domestic violence in any form and 528 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: with that, Folks, we appreciate you spending some time with us. 529 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: I am a dumbfounded TJ. Holmes alongside my dear Emmy 530 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: Robot will talk on me alltme