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Speaker 1: On the be Dol Cast. The questions asked if movies

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Speaker 1: have women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends

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Speaker 1: and husbands, or do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef

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Speaker 1: and best start changing it with the beck Del Cast. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what the fund is up? Is the Bechdel Cast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Jamie loft Is, my name is Kale Doronnie.

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Speaker 1: There is that how people said your name there? I

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Speaker 1: don't know they're sounded right? Okay, you know what? I

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Speaker 1: don't think I can actually do about an accent very well.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely cannot end up kind of doing a Newsies kind

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that fits with this episode because

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Speaker 1: like there's maybe one person doing about an accent that

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Speaker 1: makes any sense in this movie. I this is the

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Speaker 1: Bechtel Cast. Yeah, what what is the Bedel Cast? Hey kid,

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Speaker 1: what's the fucking Bechdel Cast? Fucking tell you? Is where

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Speaker 1: to broads? Talk about broads? Inflicts? Brods in a flick?

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Speaker 1: Gotta talk about something that's not a dude. You want

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Speaker 1: to know what the fucking you want to know? The

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Speaker 1: Bechtel Cast, this broad Betel, this fucking the fucking rules

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Speaker 1: women in their rules, right right. Okay, so here's what happens.

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Speaker 1: Then you gotta have two broads that have names, and

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Speaker 1: they gotta talk to each other, because when they won't

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Speaker 1: stop talking, talk to each other about something other than

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Speaker 1: their fucking husband sounds stupid. So I fucking hate it. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: this is my favorite. This is my favorite episode. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the most annoying one. I decided today, this

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Speaker 1: let's do an example of how something might pass the

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Speaker 1: Bectel test. Just like a boy I can't from Hello,

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Speaker 1: you sound like that lady on SpongeBob Jamie. This is

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Speaker 1: us passing the Bechtel test. Um do you like apples? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how do you like the apples? Oh? My god? That

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Speaker 1: it was an incoherent as like who oscar winning writers?

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Speaker 1: I feel as I feel absolutely sick thinking about I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited for this episode. Yes, anyway, so hopefully you

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Speaker 1: know what the podcast. Yeah, we talk about the representation

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Speaker 1: of women in movies and today's movie. Okay, oh boy,

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Speaker 1: motherfucking after no one has requested this movie. Literally ever,

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Speaker 1: you didn't ask for it. Here it is, this is

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Speaker 1: our episode on Google hunting. That's right, and to join

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Speaker 1: us in our discussion. We've got a very funny stand

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Speaker 1: up comic and writer from Boston, and she's from Boston.

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Speaker 1: Iowa debris what it does pleasure? Yeah, my friends. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're fucking wearing Boston from from dot Rat from Georchester. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that real shit. I'm third generation brockton Ian. Yeah, everyone's,

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Speaker 1: everyone's We're still out there in Brockton. We're on the

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Speaker 1: south side near Westbridge, witer. We don't like Westrata. They suck.

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Speaker 1: Go to Easton a little bit to the east. They

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Speaker 1: got they got a lot, they got too much heroin there.

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Speaker 1: They don't go there. To Brockton is not good the best.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have the best reputation. But they say it

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Speaker 1: in the depoded once they do, and we do not

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Speaker 1: let people forget it. It's also in What Maybe Gone, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which I watched the other night because I'm sick, and

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Speaker 1: that is a very strange way to be home set. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: it's also it's like not representative of anything I've ever experienced. Really,

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Speaker 1: most movies about the area we're from do not represent

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Speaker 1: I mean there's truly, I think, like in Dorchester, every

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Speaker 1: can't be my life. Caitlyn. Once your history with this

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Speaker 1: personal life. Boys boys, boys, Um, it's a romp of

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Speaker 1: be home, because you know, it's like literally beautiful. You're laughing,

421
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: but it's beautiful and it comes back at the end,

422
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: and it is a good actor. He's a damage math.

423
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: He is a good actor. He's canceled, right, He's been

424
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: really creepy with a bunch of like I can't get

425
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: interviewers and stuff. Okay, I don't. I don't know. I

426
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: thought that Matt Damon, like there is some weird ship

427
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: with you. I don't, I don't, I think, I mean everything.

428
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: It seems like everyone in this movie is canceled of

429
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: the of the Boston bro friends. I mean especially I know,

430
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: I know the story Yams, there's there's there's definitely some

431
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: history that's not very good. Okay, yes, indeed for for

432
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: both of them, they're for everyone, for literally everyone except

433
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: Robert Williams. We hope we that we know I write.

434
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 1: No one is saving anyway. So so Will's fighting with everyone.

435
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: He and Robin Williams getting a fight because you know,

436
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: Will Hunting is being a dick as per usual. But

437
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: then Robin Williams is like, Will, you you're intimacy issues,

438
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: you're abandonment, she is, it's not your fault. And then

439
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: Well cries and he realizes that it's okay to have feelings.

440
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's okay to not be okay. Sometimes when you cry,

441
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: it's actually awesome. It's actually a good thing. This is

442
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: this is like Will hunting a part of the movie

443
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: that I like where it kind of veers into that

444
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: like rare dad tear jerk or genre. I like Dad's

445
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: Ee that movie. They're like, yeah, I like crying. I

446
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: think Dad's for men to cry. I was joking earlier,

447
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: but now I'm serious. I really am here for the

448
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: men in this cause I believe that men should be

449
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: able to have movies for them that are like this

450
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 1: because they don't. I don't disagree, I do like I mean,

451
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: I'm just like, man, this is sort of a story

452
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: of a man learning to understand and like be able

453
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: to talk to other men about it. I think that's nice.

454
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: You did you sort of? I mean, the movie is

455
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: horribly paced anyway, and so the end really just sort

456
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: of does come at you like a freaking whirlwinds. But

457
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: unlessen I don't want to, I don't want to cut

458
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: your recap off. Go for it. We missed the well

459
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: maybe we'll get into what we talk about mini. But

460
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: when they start fighting, oh yeah, we'll talk all about that. Okay,

461
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: don't you worry. So Wills like, oh my god, I

462
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: it's okay to have feelings. Then he gets a job

463
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: so that he can get his life on track. But

464
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: then he writes a nut. Then he writes a nut

465
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: to Robin Williams, and he's like, screw the job, I

466
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: gotta go see about a girl, which is the thing

467
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: that Robin Williams said to him about him a baseball game.

468
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: And then he dropped and Will drives to California to

469
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: be with Skylar because she has moved there for med school.

470
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: That's the end in the movie. We got to take

471
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: a quick break and then we'll come back to discuss. Hey,

472
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: welcome back. Hey, we're back. We're back. My exit gets

473
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: worse than worse every time. Back on the back. I

474
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: hope that I can be discovered as like a comedian

475
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: or screenwriter, the way that Will is discovered as a

476
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: math genius in this movie, where it's just like I'm

477
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: writing a joke on a chalkboard and then someone walks

478
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: up and they're like, oh my fucking god, this is

479
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: the greatest joke I've ever seen, and then you run

480
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: away like you and then they find me and I'm like, okay, fine,

481
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: I'll be a comedian. Those are my hopes and dreams.

482
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: Um so good Will hunting, Yes, listen the movie says

483
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: he's good. He's good. He is. The movie says he's good.

484
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: The movie says, so, Matt Damon and Matt Affleck both.

485
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm so that was really disrespectful. Literally, that was a

486
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: ra They won an Oscar for writing. They did. Robert

487
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: Williams won an Oscar for acting. He deserved it. There.

488
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: I like he did, he did, he did, and that

489
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: his monologues are great. He's so good. His dialect coach

490
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 1: should be he's doing the correct accent. I would say

491
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: about thirty percent of the time when he gets that

492
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: thirty when he gets it right. Um. Something that I

493
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: do want to say about them winning the writing Oscar

494
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: is that they are the youngest Oscar winners for writing. However,

495
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people don't know this. The

496
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: movie was like heavily ghost written, Like they wrote a

497
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: draft and it was horrible and they're taking it around

498
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: and then a much more experienced screenwriter who refuses to

499
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: take credit. They went, wait just because it's embarrassing or

500
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't know why he won't take credit. I think

501
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: because he was like, um, I think it's William Goldman.

502
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: He wrote Butch Cassidy and the sec Kid and Princess Bride. Yeah,

503
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: and he was like their script doctor, and basically he

504
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: there's like a thing where some somebody was like or

505
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: like I guess like reportedly once was like, I wasn't

506
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: a script doctor. I rewrote the entire thing from scratch,

507
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: and then people were like, is that for real? And

508
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: he was like, uh no, I don't want to talk

509
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: about it. So I don't know why, like what it

510
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: was about it, but basically he fixed the script and

511
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: then made it active. I mean, I feel like that

512
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: happens quite a bit in Hollywood, where like there's just

513
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: a million people. Yeah, I mean yeah, but there's like

514
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: and the only the reason I'm inclined to believe that

515
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: because I don't want to negar boys or don't we

516
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: don't want to negar boys that may or may not

517
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: be canceled, I forget. Honestly, the reason I'm inclined to

518
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: believe that someone else wrote this movie basically is because

519
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: neither of them really go on to ever write anything

520
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 1: ever again. Yeah, so you would think if they were

521
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: good writers that I think Rob Reiner was like originally

522
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: attached to direct it or something, or he knew them

523
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: and like the script and so he's the reason why

524
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: William Goldman was like, I'll take a look at this,

525
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: so it really I don't also know like where they

526
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: were in their careers where it was just like everybody

527
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: thought that they were awesome. They had both done a

528
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: couple things, but I think this movie really jump started

529
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: them as like movie stars. This was like post Chasing

530
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: Amy though, right, yeah, but those were pretty you know.

531
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: That's like when it's like he's getting but he's like

532
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: getting buzz and it's probably like he's like he's schmuzen.

533
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: He's at these Hollywood parties, he's pool side, he's kicking it,

534
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: he's meeting people, and he's like, I'm just a guy

535
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: from Boston and everybody's like, that's what we do every weekend.

536
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: Every weekend. I'm still at the pool side waiting for

537
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: Rob Ryder to show up. Hasn't been there in years,

538
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: but I'm there case he's gonna get a little hot.

539
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to do a movie. It's called Good I

540
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: Hunting and it's about me and I'm a perverted, abusive cook.

541
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah I see, I mean Harvard and guess what I

542
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: can read. But one thinks I can read and it's

543
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: good you're good because it says because it's in the

544
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: title um. And also it kind of sounds like maybe

545
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: it could mean something or be a sentence, but it's not.

546
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: It's just my name. Surprise. I really thought this movie

547
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: was about like hunting for goodwill, like the like the

548
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: goodwill and people, and I did not realize that Will

549
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: hunting is the name of the character. And do you

550
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: get that it's such a clever turn of work. You

551
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: should read the screenplay I wrote. It's about um World

552
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: War two, and the main character's name is Shoot Gun

553
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: And it's really sort of subversive um in the way

554
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't expect because because you hear the name

555
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: shoot and you're like, oh, Shoot, I know tons of

556
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: guys name Shoot and also tons of people with the

557
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: last name Gun. But then you look at the movie

558
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: overall and it's like, wait a minute, Oh, what's happening.

559
00:33:55,080 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: We are shooting? Thank you? And oh my god, sorry

560
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: that's a little advanced. It's a little bit of screening training.

561
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: But then that's really the twist at the end of

562
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: the movie. Yeah, is that actually the gun shoots itself.

563
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: It's really good and it's coming out. It's a comment

564
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: it's something. Yeah, it's so good at Bill hunting. Oh

565
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: that wasn't directly connected to that weird or that your transition.

566
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry your choice. So what So let's talk

567
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: about the one woman character in the movie who is

568
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: alive the point of the podcast. Yeah. Yeah, so we've

569
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: got we've got Skyla. We've got Skyla to have it.

570
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: She's British. Yeah, we love that. We know that she is, like,

571
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: I think, a fourth year undergrad Harvard student. She's she's

572
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: a woman instant about to she's hot. That's important. It's

573
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: so rare for women, a woman in a movie who

574
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: is hot, It's right, never heard of it. So she

575
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: she's she meets sexy Janda. Yeah. I like how that

576
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: that whole scene is. Ben Affleck's character goes up to

577
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: hit on mini driver and her friend, and then the

578
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: smart guy, like the Harvard guy, comes over. Has a ponytail. Yea,

579
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: he fully has adult blondmaile adult don't trust him and

580
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: don't trust him, do not trust him, flesh color hair

581
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: is scary, but he so, so he comes over and

582
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: then it turns into this where I think it's supposed

583
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: to be this weird class war that's going on where

584
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, so fucking poor guy can't just go

585
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: and harass women at the BA. But but smart guys

586
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: kid And then it was like no, no, no again,

587
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: but that's not that. This is America. Poor guys should

588
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: be able to hit on a fucking woman, and so

589
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: should smart guy. If I want to fucking harass a

590
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: woman in the fucking street, whether I'm poor or rich,

591
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: I should be able to do it. This is what

592
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: afula fathers died. And then like, none of don't ask

593
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: her what she wants to say. Had a dream that

594
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: one day, regardless of color or cream, any man could

595
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: harass a woman if he wanted to. No, no, no,

596
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear what you have to say

597
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: about because I got it. Do you want to take

598
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: this outside? So here's what drove me crazy about this scene.

599
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: So he's, you know, he will is like quoting books.

600
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, flexing his his knowledge brain and

601
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: think your brain. Of all the people who are around

602
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: Skyler in this moment, she is impressed by goodwill hunting.

603
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: She's also not speaking from right. Women don't have I

604
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: never talked. Actually, Sys actually has a podcast, so she

605
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: gets her time and what she needs to and then

606
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: she goes over to him forty five minutes later, and

607
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: she's like, you're an idiot. I was waiting for forty

608
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: five minutes for you to come talk to me, because

609
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: you know, when you're hot and you go to Harvard

610
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: and you're beautiful at your pre bed and you wait

611
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: outside bars for almost an hour to talk to an

612
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: evil man and he has no less than forty holes

613
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: in his shirt in this scene. Yeah, we know that

614
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: he has other clothes that don't have holes in them,

615
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: Like why did he why? Anyway this? I mean, women

616
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: are conditioned to like wait passively for a man to

617
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: pursue them, especially in you know, like she does eventually

618
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: go up to him. It's crazy than me that she's

619
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: like waiting there for forty five minutes for him to

620
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: talk to her. I think that that's just as like, oh,

621
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: this screenplay was written by a bunch of dudes, and

622
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: that's like not that's since they're like, oh, that's women

623
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: to think of this all the time. When I'm at

624
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: the butt, they're just sitting there being like I wish

625
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: and then I just you know, I didn't think she

626
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: was hot, so I didn't go out there, you know,

627
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: it's just like that's just like stupid writing. Yeah. Um,

628
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: So then she approaches him, So I guess it's like

629
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: good that we don't see a guy like aggressively wearing

630
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: her down. That comes later. That's only when they're in

631
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: does he start to become abusive, because she does. She

632
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: does initiate a lot of stuff in the early half

633
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: of their relationship. She like suggests the first kiss, I

634
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: thought their date was really cute. I didn't hate it.

635
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: I liked like the beginning of their relationship. I thought

636
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: it was very she she tells a great jokes, that

637
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: weird joke about a mouthful come. Yeah, I really, I

638
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: mean it's weird. I thought the relationship was very cute

639
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: at the beginning. It was nice, and I like I

640
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 1: like her character too, Like I think she seems more

641
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: well rounded than a lot of like romantic interest women

642
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: in movies, especially at this time. She doesn't do like

643
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: she doesn't drop everything the second she meets it, Like

644
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: you know, she's like she's still doing her whatever. It's

645
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: senior year. Yeah, she's having fun. She did her work.

646
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: She still want to do her work, but she wants

647
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: to have fun with a cute janitor. Yeah, we've all

648
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: been there. We've all been there, We've all wanted to

649
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: funk a hot janitor. And if you think you haven't,

650
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: check again. You just didn't know that he was a custodian.

651
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm willing to spread that rumor about Boston. It's like

652
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: it's a read a passage that you're gonna suck a janitor.

653
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: He's going to be a genius. He's going to be

654
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: emotionally abusive to you. I cannot watch any more movies

655
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: about like a tortured white man who's also a genius. Yeah,

656
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: he has to be redeem Metrograph, New York City. You

657
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: know what's up on on a seven day marathon of

658
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: movies where white men are tortured geniuses and it's okay

659
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: because they're smart. Uh. And then as it pertains to

660
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 1: her character, Will starts to talk about her in therapy

661
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: and he's like, she's beautiful, she's fun, she's intelligent. Like

662
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: so he, you know, values her for things beyond her

663
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: her beauty. Yeah. But then the like subtext of him

664
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: saying that that, I was like, oh man, but it

665
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: is in the world of this movie. I'm like yeah,

666
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: of course they would say that. But he's sort of like,

667
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: I feel like part of what you're saying. There's like

668
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,959
Speaker 1: she's got this British accent, and all the women around

669
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: me sound fucking girls. And well he does say like

670
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: she's different from all the most of the girls I've

671
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: been with, which is like, she's not like the other girls.

672
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: She's the salthy girls are made out to be like dumb,

673
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: like late ninety like it's just like total there's some

674
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: like yeah, there's a lot of like weird like classist,

675
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: like if you're like working class or from a particular neighborhood,

676
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 1: you're automatically like a fucking idiot. And then if yeah,

677
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: but um so, then he says to Robin Williams, He's like, oh,

678
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going to go out with

679
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: her again, because like, what if I realized she's not

680
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: that smart and she's fucking boring. And this is him

681
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: like not processing his feelings, which like he learns to

682
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: do later, sort of what if she's like actually a

683
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: little actually not that cute? What about that? And then

684
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: this is when things fall apart in their relationship for me,

685
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: when he starts to do her homework for her, so

686
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: that like she has time to hang out with him.

687
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: She's like, I got to learn this stuff, Like you

688
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: can do my homework for me, Like it's a red flag.

689
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, I mean I would accept that if

690
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: I was dating a math okay to be fair, senior

691
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: in high school, dated a guy who was really good

692
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: at math, and I did let him do my homework

693
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: once or twice. Oh my god, she's canceled. But her

694
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: thing is like she keeps being like, I need to

695
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: learn this. I'm going to medical school. I need to

696
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: know how to do this stuff. I was going to

697
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: dog school, dog University. Yeah, it's incredible. But he keeps like,

698
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: you know, exerting his fucking brains power over her. And

699
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: then and then it's the whole thing where she's like,

700
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: moved to California with me, I love you, and he's like, well,

701
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't love you, and it's just because he doesn't

702
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: know how to do his feelings yet. That so yeah,

703
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: the context said that is that he had lied to her.

704
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: He said he had twelve brothers and he had like Mikey, Tommy, Baby, Joli, Rabbie, Brian, Johnny, Mickey, Terry,

705
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johny. I did like that they I think that

706
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: they left that shot on Matt Damon so he would

707
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: have to say it twice in a row, and he did.

708
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: He earned that nomination. He didn't learn, he said, Mike.

709
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: But uh so she finds out that he had lied

710
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: about that, that he was in the foster system for

711
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: a long time, had an abusive father in the foster system.

712
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: We also learned the first thing we know about Mini

713
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: Driver in a long time in this because in most

714
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: scenes of them together, she's like so weird, like what

715
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: is your deal? Like what is he doing? Like you

716
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: so good at math, but like what are you? You know?

717
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: And he never was hunting for and he never asked

718
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: her about herself, so we don't find out really anything

719
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: about other than like where she goes to school, and

720
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: like we know a fair amount. But we find out

721
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: and I think we don't learn about this before. But

722
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: in that scene where the fight, she's like, well, my

723
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: like the only reason that we find out she's rich,

724
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: which we didn't technically know. We could have guessed, but

725
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: what we find out and he's like, oh, you're gonna

726
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: go with all the other fucking trust fund kids, which

727
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: I've yelled at someone before and then they but then

728
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: she's like, well, the only reason I have so much

729
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: money is because my father passed away when I was thirteen,

730
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: and he was like, whoa where did he not know that?

731
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: He's never asked her anything about herself. Holding her up,

732
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: he shoves her against a wall and then like slams

733
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: his hands around next to her. Very scary it is. Yeah,

734
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: she's she's me and drivers really good in that scene though,

735
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: She's like she's so scared and heartbroken and crying, and

736
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I kind of liked that scene.

737
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: Not dating in real life, Oh you love when women

738
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: get hurt. Okay, yeah, breaking news on the best Jesus lord,

739
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm taking over. I'm bringing movies for boys. Or they're

740
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: kind to each other, um no, but it's really scared.

741
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: But also they were dating in real life at the

742
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: time of like making the movie and then doing press,

743
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: and then they broke up. Interesting, so you know that's

744
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: they'll make for some good act not that chemistry. And

745
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: then the way their relationship and the movie basically ends

746
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: is that he gives up everything that he's been working towards,

747
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: basically to move across the country to be with her.

748
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: Without telling her or calling her, he just drives straight

749
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: to California. Also has barely apologized to her for how

750
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: horrible he was. Has not he has he plans on

751
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: showing up, yeah, which is like now textbook, do not

752
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: do scary no, no more, just showing up please. But

753
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: there there's like yeah, he tries to call her and

754
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: then he gets he's like chicken ship and hangs up

755
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: and then just decides he's going to uproot his entire

756
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: life and come to her. And then she's like, I'm

757
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: about to leave. I love you, and he's like, okay,

758
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: take care. But like, but it's good because Ben Affleck

759
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: is happy. Right. That is such a weird and that's

760
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: how movie is good. Yeah. So actually if Ben haff

761
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: like smile at the end or like it was forgiven right,

762
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: the takeaway the argo that Affleck is happy at that

763
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: bad movie, gone girl at the whole movie, and so

764
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: thats a movie bad, very puffy, gone girl baby, gone

765
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: gone girl baby, where's that movie mash up? Well, then

766
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: probably smiled because he was directing it. That's the greatest.

767
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: That's great. Smile as gifts Ben smile. But the takeaway

768
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: from this romantic relationship that we've seen unfold is basically like, oh,

769
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: you can treat women like ship as long as you

770
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: make this big quote romantic gesture and then all will

771
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: be forgiven. Which we have which, And it's also like

772
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: we don't. We also don't see how it goes. We

773
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: don't know, we can't. I hope that he gets there,

774
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: and she's just like, no, you should you have to

775
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: drive home a you know, I think it. I think

776
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: it has to go horribly also because it's like he

777
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: just has so much ship to figure out. But the

778
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: way that she has written, she's way too accommodating, and

779
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: the way that she has been written in this movie,

780
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: she'd be like, oh my god, will you do love me?

781
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: You've showing up your means you love me and we'll

782
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: be together forever, because that's how this movie understands women

783
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: to be. I don't disagree that it is too early

784
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: in their relationship for him to move across the country

785
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: to be with her. I also, and if I were

786
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: in his position, I would have been like, let's try

787
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: a long not I'm shoving you against a wall. And

788
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: there's I mean, there's like a lot of like they've

789
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: got that class tension going, which is like an interesting

790
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: there's like interesting elements to their relationship that ends up

791
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: kind of either being really like treated like very not

792
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: well by the movie or just end up kind of

793
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: disappearing after a while. Ye Sell, what's going on with

794
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: anybody got to answer me? Is selling? Okay? He does

795
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: at least get at least three or four several minute monologues.

796
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't really know what he was saying in any

797
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: of them. He I like that the movie is like, oh,

798
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 1: and we also need to figure out our things okay

799
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: with Stelling and Robin, and we're just like I truly

800
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: could not care. Wait, oh my god, I forgot about that.

801
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: That whole plotline. There's like at least like fifteen minutes

802
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: devoted to like these college roommate is going to be

803
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: friends at the end of the day, You're like who

804
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: because there was like a whatever, yeah, oh my god, random, Yeah, okay,

805
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: awkward sauce. Random. There's also that whole long scene where

806
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: we referenced it earlier that Matt Damon turns down a

807
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: job at the n S. A ed gives a really

808
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: long monologue about how he disagrees with the n S

809
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: a yeah, sure, Like I you know, but why is

810
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: that there? There's a lot of scenes that could have

811
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: been cut. Part of the beauty of this movie is

812
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: almost none of it needs to be there. And I mean,

813
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I think that at least,

814
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: like many drivers, character is like rooted in the story.

815
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: And but like she's kind of you could kind of

816
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: argue her character is kind of there to like prove

817
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: that he's quote unquote growing as a person, because his

818
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: journey to like being able to love her is like

819
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: kind of what all him and Robin Williams talk about.

820
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: Robin Williams, he's got major his wife trope syndrome. His

821
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 1: wife his wife is dead, which is in and that's

822
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: like and the something that we know kind of what

823
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: we love about him is that his wife is dead

824
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: and he can't shut up about it. All men have

825
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: dead lives. There's the meninistas bag. Actually not all men.

826
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: Did you know? You have aviator shades on a little

827
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: something about my boys there. But there's like it reminds

828
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: me of like Ed Harris and The Rock where the

829
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: whole like drive of this character is just like it's

830
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: not as good as Ed Harris screaming at his wife's tombstone,

831
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: and they're like, I loved you so fucking much. But

832
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: it's just probably is talking about, you know, feveral character

833
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: we never see. Even the only other female character in

834
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: this movie is dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much. Well,

835
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: Many Driver's friend like is like she's an extra. She's

836
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: like extra thing. Come on, So I don't think I was.

837
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: Come on. She says, one thing that changed the movie.

838
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: I ripped open the spacetime conserum. She's like, yeah, girl,

839
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: you're like feminist text. We did it. Sorry, Actually, too

840
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: women talking this movie. So hunting go awful Hunting there's

841
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't get there.

842
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: I I like it's too bad because I'd like the

843
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: first half of the movie. I like Many Drivers character,

844
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: and then I feel like they kind of sell her out.

845
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: She's as many female characters in many movies, she exists

846
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: to further characterize the male character. At last, she appears

847
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: she robs his wife on screen. She is allowed to

848
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: appear on the cutting room floor Vera for Mega as

849
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: a ghost as young hop ghost wife alright, because she's

850
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: she's a therapist and the departed. Her pulling over like

851
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: the white She's over her head being like, she's like,

852
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: why do you walking up out? She has the worst

853
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: Boston accent that I've ever heard in my life. And

854
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: it was something so easily in the script, scorse as

855
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: it could have been, like, you know what, actually, you

856
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: weren't born and raised in Boston. You came here from

857
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: California and you went to be you and you've been

858
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: here for fifteen years. Let's just say that. But she's like,

859
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm born and raised in Boston, Massachusets like when she

860
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 1: truly and not even well, we got to take another

861
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: quick break, but then will come right back, well fucking

862
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 1: back back. The next thing that I think we should

863
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: talk about, what should we talk about? Let's talk about

864
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: a lot of solos in this movie should be mentioned,

865
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 1: should be mentioned, our sort of shared history. Yes, let's

866
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: bring it up. I mean, Jamie and I both notorious

867
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: known in several circles, famously in a large way, played

868
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: the elbow in high school. And I think it shows, honestly,

869
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: which is crazy giving off major obo vibes. Do you

870
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: you still have do you still have yours? It's back

871
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: home in Boston. I've got I brought mine here just

872
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: in case you never never know, but like, okay, when

873
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: you hear the obo in movies, or you're like, I'm like,

874
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: well that's me, you know, or I'm like, oh, I

875
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: basically did that. Visibility is so important, so important. I

876
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: feel more during an oboe solo in any movie than

877
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: I did during any part of Black Panther. Incredible. And

878
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: there's a character name I am in the movie and

879
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: I was like, which was right now? I wish the

880
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: character was an obo on screen, was a talking elbow,

881
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: and I would have done it. So one thing that

882
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: I think to give this movie some credit, Yes, I

883
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: do appreciate that it is largely about a man recognizing

884
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: that another man needs therapy, and then that man going

885
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: to therapy, and then eventually embracing it and then like

886
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: realizing that it's actually healthy and perhaps good to hunting

887
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: to hunting. Yes, so I don't think there are many

888
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: movies like that. The fact that this is a pretty

889
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: well known, mainstream movie I think is good for that reason.

890
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: I think the characters are still fairly toxic even after

891
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: they've been through therapy. The way they get there is,

892
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, there's some bumps in the road. The way

893
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: they get there, but I I yeah, I think like

894
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: generally it's it is like it's like that dad, like

895
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: that dad crying genre like forgiveness, men forgiving each other

896
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: porn for for Dad's that they're like, oh shit, like

897
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: I wish i've I could do that, but at least

898
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: fucking mad Dammon did. Yeah. And I've said it before,

899
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. Toxic masculinity stems largely from Okay, sorry,

900
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: I know I'm in the presence of a meninist. I

901
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: just stood up. What the fun is going on here? Here?

902
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: A good will hunting bad in the ugly shirt. Um.

903
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: The toxic masculinity stems at least in part from men

904
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: not embracing their emotions or knowing how to process them.

905
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: So a movie that encourages that is a good thing,

906
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: because if we're going to dismantle the patriarchy, we need

907
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: the cooperation of men, and they're not going to do

908
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: that unless they can talk about their feelings. So that

909
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: was my my good Will Hunting monologue. Thank you so much.

910
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you, and I think that

911
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: that's really important. I feel like and all my boys

912
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 1: listening to this, pot you know what I'm talking about

913
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: when you want to cry but you can't, so you

914
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: just drink seven Monster Energy drinks in one Mountain dew

915
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: Code orange, and then I have feels. It feels like

916
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: a feeling. So so I hear you, but I counter that,

917
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: and I'm actually right a movie about that. I can't wait.

918
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: Lucas Hedges plays the mountain dew Code orange, so it's

919
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: gonna be good. It's gonna be good. Miles Teller is attached. Yeah,

920
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: so much stays in place. The sun great. So the

921
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: climax of the movie is smile so shoots himself into

922
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: the sun. So it's the sun is so the World

923
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: War two script that previously wrote and that will be

924
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: coming out. This is actually um the way that the

925
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 1: Avatar movies shout up boys um sort of like span

926
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: several generations. That is what my movie about shoot Guard

927
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: his family's legacy will also do. So it's kind of

928
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: a cinematic universe. Well I would say exactly that actually,

929
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: So thank you for seeing it, love it? Thank you. Yeah.

930
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: I mean any movie where a man goes into therapy

931
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: and it and it and it works out for him,

932
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: I feel like it's like almost like the the like goofy,

933
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: Like they're like, listen, if you want, if you want

934
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: like the pussy in your life to cooperate with you,

935
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: you just gotta go to therapy. And that is, like,

936
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, not not the best message, but I feel

937
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: like if you're trying to appeal to men who are

938
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: completely not open to therapy at all and are completely

939
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: closed up the promise of sex at the end of

940
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: the therapy road, I'm willing to tell that lie. I'm

941
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: willing to prepare to write that lie is that sometimes

942
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: it does work, though I mean many many driver even

943
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: tries it. She's like, I'm not going to have sex

944
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: with you again until you like introduce me to your

945
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: friends and family. Basically like, unless you open up to

946
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: me in some way, I'm going to withhold sex. I

947
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: mean I've been there, I'm there right now. I'm still

948
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: doing the sex strike. Yeah, I'm still doing the sex strike. Yeah,

949
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: it's actually really awesome. I'm actually doing it because I'm

950
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: a menentist. And then the way mental health is treated

951
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: in this movie is kind of all over the place

952
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: where you mean, doesn't your therapists throttle your throat whenever

953
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: you challenge your therapists talk about themselves from justice every

954
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: single what if you had a therapist? I was like,

955
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, he like talks about his dead wife

956
00:57:55,600 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: most of the time he's helping me. Well, they're of

957
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: those few different moments where like the therapist montage when

958
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: he's trying instead of like a dress trying on montage

959
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: where we see in every movie about a woman. Instead

960
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: we see a therapist trying on montage with goodwill hunting.

961
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: But he's trying on different therapists. One of them calls.

962
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: He's like, I can't do this. This guy is a

963
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,439
Speaker 1: raving lunatic, which is like not how well, the reason

964
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: he does that is because of like a weird, bad

965
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: gay joke that was written where Matt Damon is like, now,

966
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: isn't I don't hate gay people? But I can I've

967
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: clocked you, and you're like, I have a whole list

968
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: of problematic things like that That gets said, But like,

969
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: no therapist is going to be like, oh, I can't

970
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: help this person. They're a raving lunatic. It's like, you

971
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: only help normal people. How dare you bring somebody sick

972
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: in of my off? Get out? Get out? It's like

973
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: the medical diagnosis that the psychiatrist gives in the movie

974
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: Halloween where he's like he's pure evil. It's like, this

975
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: is not how medicine and mental health work. But um, yeah, okay,

976
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: here's my list of seven creepy, problematic stuff that is

977
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: said by straight white men. And uh, the R word.

978
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: The R word gets said several times. Um Stelen's Scars

979
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: guard asks one of his female students if she would

980
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: like to have a drink with him. A woman, Oh yeah,

981
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: it's fine. Robin Williams says to his class full of

982
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: students who are wanting to become therapists, quote, if your

983
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: clients don't trust you, you'll never get them to sleep

984
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: with you. And that should be the goal of any

985
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: good therapist. Nail them while they're vulnerable. That's my motto.

986
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: And then everyone laughs. And in the movie it's framed

987
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: was like he's trying to get their attention again because

988
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: they're like falling asleep. But like, don't make that joke

989
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: to students. Bunker Bunker Hill, So I like, that's actually

990
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: kind of near where I loved Okay, it's kind in

991
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: high school. It's all right. Will calls Skylar but doesn't

992
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: say anything on the phone, and then she says, Professor Valenti,

993
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: are you trying to call me again? So apparently there

994
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: are several different professors in this movie who are harassing

995
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: young women, hereditary professors, um Stale, syd Robin Williams are

996
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: talking about an Indian man and they say they make

997
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: that awful joke which is still being used by comedians today,

998
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: uh Indian dot not feather. A few more, Robin Williames

999
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: is talking about having a lottery ticket that will cover

1000
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: his tab at a bar, and then he says, Oh,

1001
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: it might not cover my tab, but it will cover

1002
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: your sex change operation. Why would he say that? Why

1003
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: is that a line of dialogue? Give them the trophy?

1004
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: And then finally, because even though this movie is about

1005
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: you know, like men coming to terms with their feelings

1006
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: and learning how to process them, Will and his therapist

1007
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: hug at the end, and then Will Hunting says, does

1008
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: this violate the doctor patient relationship? And Robin Williams says no,

1009
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: only if you grab my ass, which like, okay, you

1010
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: ruined a nice moment anyway. So that was my list

1011
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: of why was this written into the movie. Well, I

1012
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: mean that's like so much of the movie really specific

1013
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: of you to have a list. I I think that

1014
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: it is. This movie, as far as I know, it

1015
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: is not like as popular as it once was. I

1016
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: don't think people really go other than people from Boston

1017
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: are homesick and want to see a version of where

1018
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: they grew up that never existed. Uh, it doesn't seem

1019
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: like it's really endured. Like I don't think teenagers are

1020
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: watching Good Times. I don't know. I don't think so.

1021
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: But it did like propel those two guys to like start,

1022
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: We're stuck with them, for sure, we're stuck with them. Um.

1023
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, So those are kind of all my thoughts

1024
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: on the movie. Anyone else have any final thoughts. I

1025
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: think that Matt Damon is using most of the janitorial

1026
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: supplies incorrectly. The way he holds a broom, I don't

1027
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 1: think it's correct. The way he is mopping as someone

1028
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: who's mopped a lot of mops, Yeah, he's a bad mopper. Well. Also,

1029
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: clearly everyone who wrote this movie has never been to

1030
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: therapy either, Like, never been to therapy college, I had

1031
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: a job a bar. There's lots of experience and healthy

1032
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: relationship not been had. But we're written by in this movie. Um. Yes.

1033
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: My final thought, um, ghost socks, they're oh ship the

1034
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: person I love, I love and bruins. I respect the socks,

1035
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: of course, but I did think it gets a little

1036
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: bit crowdy. I'm all about the pats your pets. I'm

1037
01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: a patsy, a pantsy. Go oh cool. I love bruins,

1038
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: I love a fucking Joe Thornton and in all of

1039
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: his who Celtics go ahead. Speaking of talking about man,

1040
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: does this movie pass the Bechdel test? Yeah? Um, okay,

1041
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: let's see. We have a scene with two women, Mini

1042
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: Driver and Robin Williams's wife's ghosts played by Vera Farmega,

1043
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: and the and the scene where they talk about bomp

1044
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: and they talk about Mini's medical career and how proud

1045
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: Vera Farmega is of many drivers. Is um a decision

1046
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: to go to California. This is after the breakup with

1047
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: will Um and she's having a really hard time and

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01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: her best friend, who's a ghost, comforts her and it's like,

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01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of you, and she's like thank you,

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01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: and then she's like what got you interested in medicine?

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01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 1: And then Mini tells her and they hug and and

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01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: they're like I'm going to get each other. It's really good. Yeah,

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01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: I know, I love yeah, because we remember that's a

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01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: great senior. Remember. Let me ask a question. Does it

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01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: pass the Bechto tests? Yes? If? Yeah, because if Ben

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01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: Affleck's first words in the movie are screaming at a

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01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: woman across the bar, Kathy, why didn't you give me

1058
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: none of that nasty COUCHI wouchi you usually throw at me?

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01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: Does that pass the Bechto tests? Yes? Oh yeah, yeah

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01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: I thought she claps back. Yeah, uh feminist win. She

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01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: says fuck you and you're tout real dick. I guess

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01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 1: she is. The other named female characters. Matt Damon says

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01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: like hi, Kristen or something like that to a woman

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01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: at the bar. But yeah, these are very tertiary characters

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01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: this movie was producing. That's how you see women in

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01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: film as tertiary characters. And I feel bad then, I

1067
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: really just then it's that's a lot. I'm the meninace now.

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01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: Also very famously a Weinstein Brothers joint. We've covered a

1069
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: lot of Weinstein max uh ten million dollar budget, two

1070
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: million people love this movie, A hundred million tickets ticket.

1071
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: I used to be a trust fund baby, but I

1072
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: blew it on hunting tickets in theaters. Theaters. Okay, let's

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01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: rate the movie in our nipples scale. Yeah, alright, so

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01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: five five nipples a great portrayal of women, feminist win yes,

1075
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: zero nipples bad bad bad bad will hunting bad villion.

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01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to give this, I guess one nipple because

1077
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: I do like Mini Driver's character. I do like that

1078
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: we get to know a little bit about her. She

1079
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: seems like a fairly okay she seems she seems okay

1080
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: at first, and then the movie does sell her out

1081
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: and she can. She starts being treated very badly by

1082
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: the man that she loves, but it's fine because he

1083
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: drives across the country without letting her know, so that

1084
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: doesn't bode well. I do appreciate that the movie is

1085
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: about a man's like emotional journey, and even though he

1086
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: still ends up being pretty toxic by the end, he's

1087
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: demonstrated at least some emotional growth. And I and for

1088
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: nine seven, I think that was pretty ground break. Yes, yes,

1089
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: truly like a man going to therapy in a movie

1090
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: in the ye. Clearly people found it very brave, and

1091
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: although like I said, I just simply do not have

1092
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: the patients for stories about mediocre white men who are

1093
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: actually also geniuses don't care. So yeah, I'm gonna, I mean,

1094
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: one nipple sounds like too much, I'm gonna go down

1095
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: to a half nipple. And I'm going to give it

1096
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: to Kathy for not giving her Couchi wouchi to nasty

1097
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: and also Kathy, in her defense for visibility of nasty

1098
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: couchi Wochi does not say no, no, no, my kuchi

1099
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: wuchi is not nasty. She maybe is like, yeah it is,

1100
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: and I'm fine with that and I'm fucking proud, and

1101
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: I was like, my name is Kathy, and like, couchi

1102
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: wich is absolutely disgusting. Feminism is the law now, um

1103
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 1: so so I will. I will give this a one.

1104
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: I think I like Minny Driver's character for most of it.

1105
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: Like you're saying, I hope for better for her in

1106
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: the future, Um, when Matt Damon is going the hell

1107
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: off about like yeah, and then then the future you're

1108
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 1: gonna marry some other guy. Are you gonna talk about

1109
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: how you fuck the janitor once? And I'm like, honestly,

1110
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: I hope that that's what happens for her. I hope

1111
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: she moves on quickly and she finds a different kind

1112
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: of douche bag at Stanford. You know, there's plenty of

1113
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: plenty out there to a whole different genre. Yeah, Like

1114
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: it's it seems like it's like the token female character

1115
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,959
Speaker 1: in the all male movie, but you know Matt Damon

1116
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: goes to therapy. Uh, and it is I Like I

1117
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: feel like it's just like indicates that's like, oh, we

1118
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 1: need more like dad cry movies. It is like I

1119
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: feel like dads get a release out of this. That

1120
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: that is like maybe why the movie has even remotely

1121
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: endured other than like Boston and men can cry during

1122
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: the movie and people like me who are horny for

1123
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: horrible bos there and but it's like you get there,

1124
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 1: there is like value to it with with that. Uh

1125
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: so you know, maybe just a better, better version of

1126
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: a movie that that your dad can feel comfortable crying

1127
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: too and think about all his regret. I'm like, I

1128
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: was like, if my dad was watching this movie, he

1129
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: would be thinking about his regrets the entire movie, and uh,

1130
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: you know he needs he needs to be doing that.

1131
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: So it's really all guy. Yeah, but for this is

1132
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: not this is not I'll say it, it's not a

1133
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: feminist text. But you know what, I'll say it. I agree,

1134
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: I'll give it one nasty COUCHI WOUCHI and I'm I'm

1135
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: also going to give it to Kathy Great. Yeah, how

1136
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: you feel. Um, this is tricky, this is tough. This

1137
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: is score that I give in no way reflects my

1138
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: beliefs on the meninist community, to which I am deeply connected. Um, however,

1139
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: it's not very it's not very kind to women. It's

1140
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 1: not very kind of women at all. And poor Mini

1141
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: Driver's character really just suffers and suffers again. Um, she

1142
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: just like loses any sense of character, which is a bummer,

1143
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: even though Robin Williams's dead wife is probably one of

1144
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,560
Speaker 1: the most fleshed out characters, just because we know that

1145
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:01,560
Speaker 1: starring her sleep right, that is more we know. So

1146
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: so you tell me, Um, we know a lot about

1147
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 1: Cathy lady. Na Um, but I think, but they'll score.

1148
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: Why I gotta give. I gotta go, I gotta go

1149
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: point five? Yeah yeah, oh and that's again and all

1150
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 1: the women get harassed. Wait, I gotta go. I think

1151
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: I might go oh zero, Okay, I still will be

1152
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: watching the movie. The thing is, I get clear, I'm

1153
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: addicted to that movie. I just know everything that happens

1154
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 1: that it feels good to watch. That's the point of

1155
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: the podcast. You're still allowed to love the things you love,

1156
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: even if they're you know, bad will Hunting. But you know,

1157
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 1: we just encourage people to examine the media critically that

1158
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 1: they consume that feels good. I'm gonna go home and

1159
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: watch it, but I'm going to be playing it on

1160
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: mute and on surround sound. I'm going to be playing

1161
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: Chris Brown and R. Kelly Sons at the same time

1162
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: on full blasts until my ears bleed. And so knowing

1163
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 1: that I have the safety to do that makes me

1164
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: feel really kind of like a Wizard of a Dark

1165
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 1: Side of the Moon. And that's exactly but with Hunting

1166
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: and um An, R Kelly Chris Brown collab right right, right, yeah, yeah,

1167
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: all right, this is a safe space. Well I oh,

1168
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Do you want

1169
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: to come over to do that with you? To watch? Yeah,

1170
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: I'll be there, yeah, okay, obviously anytime you seem like

1171
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: you're sitting in your seat still, oh, here we go

1172
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: here company, Yeah, okay, cool, Just of the plot. I

1173
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: just want to make sure I think this could be

1174
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: a really fun, cool idea. Okay, all right, I'll just

1175
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: like hell first, I'll just meet you guys in my

1176
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: place before you do that. Plug your stuff though. People

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01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,480
Speaker 1: find you online. Um you can find me on Instagram

1178
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: and Twitter. Is just my name A y O E

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01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: D E B I R I UM in l A

1180
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: right now doing shows every now and again, and UM

1181
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 1: post them what I'm doing them, so check those out.

1182
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: Might be coming out with a pot of my own s,

1183
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: so freaking stay tuned, ship. Um yeah, so you guys

1184
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: can do that. Follow io on all on those places.

1185
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: You can follow us at those places as well. At

1186
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 1: becktel Cast, we've got a Matreon aka Patreon ak matren

1187
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 1: five dollars a month to extra episodes. What more could

1188
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: you want? Nothing but that thing we got. We got

1189
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: the merge store to public dot com, slash the backtel Cast,

1190
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff in there, and uh yeah thanks

1191
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 1: thanks for listening, Jamie. Yeah, how do you like them apples?

1192
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: Get the funk out of here, ship, all right, I

1193
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: gotta take my nasty couci wuchi back on home. Okay,

1194
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 1: bye bye