Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,
Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most
Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
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Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. High
Speaker 1: Raigin draws, Let's get into this episode.
Speaker 2: A lot happened in this episode.
Speaker 1: I am so looking forward to Dustin Andcalia's thoughts about
Speaker 1: Kelly versus brit who saw there on. But before we
Speaker 1: get into that, I want to have some conversations about
Speaker 1: some of the scenes that happened prior to that. Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to get to the semien Phaedra one thing
Speaker 1: I know all three of us were asking for because
Speaker 1: Faedra is a peach holkerd after ten days of work,
Speaker 1: which as a record, Claudia.
Speaker 2: Had to wait three months try to get her peach,
Speaker 2: but didn't.
Speaker 3: Get a check all season until the night before the
Speaker 3: reunion when I signed my contract. That's why I was
Speaker 3: able to get six figures and at that five figures
Speaker 3: out war, they try to get me and they give
Speaker 3: all the other girls hello, every single person before me
Speaker 3: that did their first season and took that forty thousand.
Speaker 4: I said no to you.
Speaker 5: Are smart girl, not me for let me use your lawyer.
Speaker 4: Let him do see.
Speaker 2: You can lose.
Speaker 1: You can't borrow lawyers, because do not borrow GLAMs.
Speaker 2: I'm on your tip, all right.
Speaker 1: So the moment we've all been waiting for, we got
Speaker 1: a chance to see Page's personal story. Yes, we've been
Speaker 1: asking for it, and it's been delivered. And I do
Speaker 1: want to say this us saying this never had anything
Speaker 1: to do with Faedra, because Faedria does not control what
Speaker 1: gets shown first, right, So I want y'all to know that.
Speaker 2: We were now able to see some personal story.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed seeing Faede as a mother.
Speaker 2: You can say, each one of my Phaedra, it's all good,
Speaker 2: boom boom. We have an opinion.
Speaker 1: One thing I personally will stand on is Phaedra as
Speaker 1: a good mother and Faedra loves her sons and as
Speaker 1: somebody who has worked with her, as somebody who was.
Speaker 2: There when Aiden and Dylan were born.
Speaker 1: I can say firsthand, I've witnessed Phaedra give those boys everything.
Speaker 1: And what was so interesting about seeing Faede as a mother.
Speaker 1: That is a whole different personality that I do wish
Speaker 1: the audience saw more. We know that Fhaedra is coming
Speaker 1: back next season. She announced it on Extra. If Fadra's
Speaker 1: watching or listening on somebody on her team, hey glam
Speaker 1: or the producers, I'll just say this, those scenes I
Speaker 1: think does a great justice to Fedra because it allows
Speaker 1: us to see her rest and who I think she
Speaker 1: truly is, and that is a phenomenal mother. To see
Speaker 1: Dylan with the bell bottom pants and being designer, to
Speaker 1: see Aiden talk about I want ten percent. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: help you like. All of that to me was black excellence.
Speaker 1: All of that to me, y'all know, I love seeing
Speaker 1: rich black kids. I just think it's I think we
Speaker 1: should see more of that. And I was one hundred
Speaker 1: percent satisfied with that, And I would have personally loved
Speaker 1: to have seen that scene before Faeda went on the trip.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ahead and agree with you.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not the biggest AJA fan because of
Speaker 3: all the fake shit that I've seen but I will
Speaker 3: say that that made her likable. And I think, you know,
Speaker 3: she's usually kind of fake and rehearsed or mean, or
Speaker 3: she's doing it for a line. You can't tell me
Speaker 3: that when she teared up talking about how proud she
Speaker 3: was of her boys, that that was fake.
Speaker 4: That was very real.
Speaker 3: And that's the first time I've seen that from her.
Speaker 3: And I was like, Okay, this is why some people
Speaker 3: like her, because when I saw that, I like that.
Speaker 3: And I think when you can give us some of that,
Speaker 3: it makes some of the other bullshit more palatable. You're like,
Speaker 3: all right, we have balance, but when you always have
Speaker 3: that all the time without this, it makes you one dimensional.
Speaker 3: This made me say, it makes the other stuff a
Speaker 3: little bit more okay, you know, like, it's obvious she's
Speaker 3: a good mother.
Speaker 4: Now let me take that.
Speaker 3: Hey, y'all, clip this. I'm about to say something posit
Speaker 3: about Phaedria. It's obvious she's a great mother. The way
Speaker 3: those kids are well mannered, they're ambitious, they're intelligent, they're articulate,
Speaker 3: Like these are the signs of a present, good parent
Speaker 3: that cares about the well being of their children. And
Speaker 3: I can't take nothing from her. I love seeing that
Speaker 3: part of her that made me want to see more
Speaker 3: of her. The other stuff maybe want to see less
Speaker 3: of her. But if she does more of this and
Speaker 3: make some of the other stuff.
Speaker 4: You get more of a past because you have levels
Speaker 4: and layers.
Speaker 2: I liked it.
Speaker 4: I thought it was beautiful.
Speaker 5: Well one hundred and fifty percent agree.
Speaker 6: Some is wrong with you if you don't have a
Speaker 6: soft spot for children, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 6: these are kids that we have watched be born on television.
Speaker 6: You know, as viewers, we feel attached to these kids
Speaker 6: in an appropriate way, and it's great to be reacquainted
Speaker 6: with them, to check in on them and see how
Speaker 6: those boys are doing. They're obviously well adjusted, articulate, like
Speaker 6: you said, confident enough to.
Speaker 5: Express their needs and likes and desires.
Speaker 6: I loved Phaedra them showing her putting together that sewing
Speaker 6: room for Dylan and his fashion affinity.
Speaker 5: I love that. I love that that is nurtured.
Speaker 6: I love that his brother was so his brother, Aidan
Speaker 6: was so well adjusted, well spoken, getting on that mike
Speaker 6: asking the crowd how y'all feeling out there? That was
Speaker 6: that was so adorable to see and it was good
Speaker 6: to see Faedra being kind and softer you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying around her children and showing some emotion and
Speaker 6: having something to say. You know, that was great to
Speaker 6: see and I definitely enjoyed it. That was wonderful and
Speaker 6: it was good to see that and good to be
Speaker 6: reacquainted with those children.
Speaker 3: I'm just sitting thinking, like, we never really see much
Speaker 3: about her real life, like outside of a break up
Speaker 3: with Apollo, right, and then the kids, like who are friends?
Speaker 3: Like does she have friends? Like, we don't really see family.
Speaker 3: We don't see a lot of it.
Speaker 6: But I should say we haven't seen any of it
Speaker 6: because she was very guarded and boundaried on married to medicine,
Speaker 6: and just now it's been great to see her have
Speaker 6: something to say. She's made me chuckle a couple of times,
Speaker 6: you know, and she she's been quick.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's been cool. You know, I'm honest, I keep
Speaker 5: it real, and I'm not a hater. I'm not a hater.
Speaker 6: She made me chuckle a couple of times, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. But it was great to see the
Speaker 6: focus shift from being mean, showing boobs and having you know,
Speaker 6: an attitude. It was great to see the focus shift
Speaker 6: to this is who I am. These are my children.
Speaker 6: I'm vulnerable with them in this way where I get
Speaker 6: emotional even speaking about how much I love them. That
Speaker 6: was some relatable shit, you know, and people like relatable
Speaker 6: stuff seeing her as a mom. There were plenty other
Speaker 6: mothers and fathers and people who would love to be
Speaker 6: mothers and fathers, and people who just appreciate seeing mothers
Speaker 6: and fathers on TV that can connect with that. So
Speaker 6: it was it built a bridge between people who may
Speaker 6: be harboring resentment from old shit or whatever. It was
Speaker 6: a great way to be reintroduced to Phaedra. So I
Speaker 6: enjoyed it. It felt good to watch.
Speaker 2: Child.
Speaker 1: We are just getting started. This is reality with the
Speaker 1: King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 4: And I'm assuming Apaula must be a pretty good dad too, because.
Speaker 5: They Yeah, yeah, you can tell Adam.
Speaker 3: I want to not give him credit as well. I
Speaker 3: think they have those kids have great parents that love him.
Speaker 5: You can tell they're well loved, you can tell they're confident.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I always tell people, Look, I just say this to
Speaker 1: my own father, who my father was as a husband
Speaker 1: to my mother is none of my business. Like it's
Speaker 1: just in the sense of of course, if he did
Speaker 1: crazy things to her, that's one thing that, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: one thing. But who he was as a husband, that's
Speaker 1: between he and my mother. Who my father is the
Speaker 1: father is the best that I could ever ask for.
Speaker 1: And when I look at Phasian Apollo always say to people,
Speaker 1: if you only look at who they are as parents.
Speaker 2: I agree with Claudia and Dustin.
Speaker 1: Apollo and Phedra are great parents to those two boys,
Speaker 1: and it shows in terms of who they are how
Speaker 1: they show up, and I want to see more of that.
Speaker 1: I agree one thousand percent of Claudia that when you
Speaker 1: have a polarizing figure like a faith, one thing that
Speaker 1: we always try to do when we work with her
Speaker 1: was show the balance. That's why it was important to
Speaker 1: show like her in Apollo. It was important to show
Speaker 1: Phedra at the law office. It was important to show
Speaker 1: like other side of her because she is somebody that
Speaker 1: is closed off and she reads, but.
Speaker 6: So does Claudia without even saying a word. But go ahead, Carl,
Speaker 6: I'll be funny.
Speaker 2: It reads too.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think it's important to i'might been
Speaker 1: looking like I think It's one of those things where.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to be because I'm in such a good Please.
Speaker 2: Yes, not just saying I think.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of reality stars who are polarizing
Speaker 1: or villain esque. I think it does justice when you're
Speaker 1: able to say, Okay, let me let you guys inside
Speaker 1: my home so you can see me be this person.
Speaker 1: So shout out to that. I also think, as we
Speaker 1: talk about personal story, I do want to get into
Speaker 1: Kelly's divorce. As you all know, we all love Kelly.
Speaker 1: Kelly's a fantastic.
Speaker 2: Addition to this show.
Speaker 1: Seeing her go through this process of divorce, and then
Speaker 1: when she revealed that her husband, her a strange husband,
Speaker 1: got locked up in jail for lack of child support. Okay,
Speaker 1: that is listen, men, you have to take care of
Speaker 1: the responsibilities. It was hard for me to This is
Speaker 1: the thing about Kelly's divorce story that is not her
Speaker 1: fault by any means.
Speaker 2: It's not her fault. It is hard for the audience to.
Speaker 1: Connect to a woman's divorce story when we were never introduced.
Speaker 2: To the husband. A we don't see the husband, and
Speaker 2: we don't know anything about the dynamic of your relationship.
Speaker 1: I felt bad for what she's going through, obviously, and
Speaker 1: to know that the man never paid child support is terrible.
Speaker 1: All mens should pay child support if you're not with
Speaker 1: the wife and you have kids together. But it is
Speaker 1: hard sometimes to be fully invested in a story like
Speaker 1: that when you when you aren't given a chance as
Speaker 1: an audience to a vie who's you're getting the story
Speaker 1: at the end. When we saw sit In Peter go
Speaker 1: through the divorce, invested Ninni and Greg, rest in Peace,
Speaker 1: invested Fasier and Pallo invested, Portia Cordell one season is
Speaker 1: still invested. It's the same reason we talked about Portion
Speaker 1: and Simon, like we weren't able to see Simon and
Speaker 1: Porsche's marriage, you know, be on display for us to
Speaker 1: feel invested as much. So that's just one thing that
Speaker 1: I personally felt. It was hard for me to invest
Speaker 1: in it because I had nothing to work with.
Speaker 6: I agree, But it's so interesting to hear you say that,
Speaker 6: because for me, my experience is being I kind of
Speaker 6: felt for Kelly because she was we met her, you know,
Speaker 6: embroiled deeply in this divorce right and we get to
Speaker 6: see her be a hands on mom and her daughters.
Speaker 6: We see how much she fucks with her kids, we
Speaker 6: see how much cares about life in general, and she's
Speaker 6: still showing up, still fully entrenched in the fabric of
Speaker 6: the show this season, right going through all that shit
Speaker 6: at the same time, every time she talks about it,
Speaker 6: she tears up. She has to sit down and be
Speaker 6: comfortable and be around somebody that she was really close to,
Speaker 6: and she talks about it.
Speaker 5: I felt for her.
Speaker 6: Even so much that in that conflict that she had
Speaker 6: with Britt in this week's episode, I just felt like
Speaker 6: the way she was kind of staring at brit you
Speaker 6: could just see it all over Kelly's face that it
Speaker 6: was bigger than just that argument, and it actually has
Speaker 6: made me feel for her, Whereas normally I wouldn't give
Speaker 6: a fuck. What you just said would totally describe my
Speaker 6: disposition typically as a viewer, But for some reason, when
Speaker 6: it comes to Kelly, just the way she's still been
Speaker 6: showing up and kind of soldiering through it, it's just
Speaker 6: all this season I've been like, damn, I feel for
Speaker 6: her because she's going through that other shit while she's
Speaker 6: doing this.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. So it's just been interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and nobody baby Kelly, Like some people get babied
Speaker 3: and coddles and like, well they're going through something, so
Speaker 3: we're not gonna know.
Speaker 4: She never got rest. They had to work for that
Speaker 4: forty thousand.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, well, I don't know if it's the
Speaker 3: same rate. I'm just I don't know it's the same rate.
Speaker 3: It's probably more now, but whatever it is, they had
Speaker 3: to like they made no shade. I'm just being funny,
Speaker 3: but they really made them work, like we made her work,
Speaker 3: you know. And that's always that's something that can be
Speaker 3: very frustrating on the show. When you feel like you're
Speaker 3: given one hundred percent of scene, you're being vulnerable, you're
Speaker 3: allowing yourself to be talked badly about your your the
Speaker 3: bone carrier.
Speaker 4: Sometime she had a trip at the first season.
Speaker 3: And then you may see someone else that's not doing
Speaker 3: as much, probably getting paid way more than you.
Speaker 4: That's got to be That is frustrating. That is frustrating.
Speaker 3: I'm just giving you the mindset from a reality personality.
Speaker 3: When you do that and you're like, damn, I'm giving, giving, giving, giving, giving,
Speaker 3: I have nothing else to give, and then someone else
Speaker 3: can kind of just like kind of COEs through not
Speaker 3: saying one person in particular. I think there's a couple
Speaker 3: of people that have done that that's frustrating, and she's
Speaker 3: done it with Grace. She's showed up pretty much except
Speaker 3: this episode, the one event with a smile on her face,
Speaker 3: kind of being Chipper, being every's cheerleader, little ball of energy.
Speaker 3: Like I actually felt really bad for her in this episode.
Speaker 3: I was conflicted about the event. I know I want
Speaker 3: to get to that, but I was conflicted.
Speaker 4: But she she's been showing up this whole season.
Speaker 1: She has no she has and that's what makes her
Speaker 1: so likable just as a person.
Speaker 2: I really really, really really really like Kelly.
Speaker 1: Again, as we're going to talk about the season finale
Speaker 1: next week, so we're at the end of the season
Speaker 1: pretty much. I will have love to see more of
Speaker 1: her work story again before y'all go off.
Speaker 2: That's not her, that's not her choice to what gets aired.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, I think the one thing if
Speaker 1: I have to do a grade with Kelly a plus
Speaker 1: in terms of star power A plus, the personality a
Speaker 1: plus for the president, I would have loved to see
Speaker 1: more of her work story again, not her fault I'm sure,
Speaker 1: but I would have loved to see more of that.
Speaker 1: She's also a great mother. I love the relationship she
Speaker 1: has with her daughters too.
Speaker 6: That confessional this week when the twins came in, that's
Speaker 6: that's the ship that ties the viewers in for for
Speaker 6: the Life of a Housewife. Right When you see moments
Speaker 6: like that, you never forget that. I'll never forget them
Speaker 6: twins kissing her on the cheek, have a good job,
Speaker 6: do a good job, mommy, or whatever they said. That
Speaker 6: was adorable, so adorable.
Speaker 2: So yes, yes, Now Kelly, Kelly is a star.
Speaker 1: I'm happy that I started the season off loving her,
Speaker 1: and I still do.
Speaker 2: Congrat Kelly, Congrat.
Speaker 3: We have one more episode and a little birdie told
Speaker 3: me that that we're gonna be gagging.
Speaker 4: Next week with Kelly.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3: They I got it narrow down the three names that
Speaker 3: have that did something really really shady, and it's she's
Speaker 3: in that group.
Speaker 1: And I hope, Okay, we're gonna get to that because okay, Claudia,
Speaker 1: I love Okay, listen, okay, so range.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get my catchphrase, God goddamnit, h.
Speaker 2: Something. Somethings were said and I was like, but we'll
Speaker 2: get to that a second.
Speaker 1: Okay, I do want to get into the sea between Britt, Cynthia,
Speaker 1: and Portia. It was a big deal to see Britt's house,
Speaker 1: mean not not for the audience for the ladies. Britt's
Speaker 1: house is under construction, and it was shown with the
Speaker 1: plastic on the side that means renovations happening. The other
Speaker 1: room had tons of boxing and closing the float out
Speaker 1: that shows package. So what we are seeing is the
Speaker 1: fact that I now understand why she did not want
Speaker 1: them over, because she is clearly under some form of renovation.
Speaker 2: But Ciphi and Porsche did show up.
Speaker 1: They came over, and in this scene, Brett doubles down
Speaker 1: on what is going on between her and Kelly. She
Speaker 1: did reveal that the issue is over glam, which to
Speaker 1: me is like, Okay, we kind of knew something was
Speaker 1: like that, and we'll get into that a second. But
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this because I'm feel like
Speaker 1: people called this the way I did. Portia and Cynthia
Speaker 1: come over, they're asking her what is going on with
Speaker 1: you and Kelly. She talks about the glam issue as
Speaker 1: what's dividing her in Kelly Okay. Then we talk about Shamiyah.
Speaker 1: Well she's close to Shamiyah.
Speaker 2: Okay. Not sure why Shamia's name being brought up, but
Speaker 2: I digress. Then Britt feels the need to you know what.
Speaker 3: You're about to say, exposed Tomiah, I'm nowhere.
Speaker 1: Shamia's catching astray and she tells Porsche on By the way,
Speaker 1: Shamia showed me text message just between the two of
Speaker 1: y'all that y'all had where she was talking about you
Speaker 1: and therapy and office other stuff. And I'm like, Brent, hey,
Speaker 1: this is me being honest. I I'm gonna keep it real.
Speaker 1: That thing felt set up to me. It felt like
Speaker 1: the intention was exposed to me. U.
Speaker 2: It came out of nowhere.
Speaker 6: Not really, it didn't come out of nowhere left. It
Speaker 6: came out of Grenada. And it actually came out of
Speaker 6: the before they left for Grenada, when they were in
Speaker 6: Atlanta and that whole kerfuffle about the donations and Shamiyah
Speaker 6: telling everybody on the trip that Britt had only donated
Speaker 6: two hundred and fifty dollars and she never returned with
Speaker 6: the truck that she promised. Britt was angry about that.
Speaker 6: She didn't appreciate it being mentioned at the table. She
Speaker 6: didn't appreciate the conversation being had, and at that point
Speaker 6: she had her target on Shemia. Oh, of course when
Speaker 6: she has these women over to her house what she
Speaker 6: didn't want to do for whatever her reasons were, she
Speaker 6: was going to take the opportunity.
Speaker 5: They came in.
Speaker 6: Cynthia and Porsche came in and started a conversation basically
Speaker 6: about what was going on between Kelly and Britt. Brit
Speaker 6: was like, okay, but I'm going to do is pivot
Speaker 6: and plant this seed that I already know will germinate
Speaker 6: because Angela planted it earlier. Right, she identified and highlighted
Speaker 6: the wedge in between Porscha and Shamia. Britt knew it
Speaker 6: was a successful play to an act and so she
Speaker 6: went straightforward with a pivot. This was one of the
Speaker 6: first times that we saw Brit actually embodying what housewives
Speaker 6: do right, which is manipulating conversation, making pivots that would
Speaker 6: be impactful to what happens next. That's what she did.
Speaker 6: She took advantage of the moment and Porscha fell for it.
Speaker 6: That's why she was playing with her hair. She looked
Speaker 6: gorgeous in ad chinga bano rolls printed set with that
Speaker 6: headband on. Porscha looked beautiful, but you could tell she
Speaker 6: was like kind of thrown off by Britt saying hey
Speaker 6: I saw these text messages or hey, Shamia had this
Speaker 6: conversation about you behind your back.
Speaker 5: It worked.
Speaker 6: It kind of threw Pushe off base a little bit,
Speaker 6: and that was her goal, so it didn't feel displaced her.
Speaker 5: I didn't know where to me, but I can understand
Speaker 5: why you would say that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, clip this.
Speaker 3: I'm about to say something positive about Britt. This is
Speaker 3: the best she looked in all the episodes with that
Speaker 3: short hair. Yes, pretty, her face is the best her
Speaker 3: face looks. She looks great. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: because all the other episodes and she was telling us
Speaker 3: how pretty she is and how everyone hates her.
Speaker 4: It's so hard to be pretty, Edie, because.
Speaker 3: Ever since she was a little girl, everyone was so
Speaker 3: mean because I've never seen so so beautiful in their lives.
Speaker 3: So life was just so hard for her because all
Speaker 3: the girls just wanted to take her down because they
Speaker 3: just couldn't understand her beauty. I wasn't seeing it, but
Speaker 3: this episode, I'm like, oh, she cute. She's cute, she
Speaker 3: looks pretty. Actually, now, pretty Eddie, shut the fuck up
Speaker 3: with your bullshit. You start scene complaining about Kelly having
Speaker 3: the nerve to talk badly about you to her glam,
Speaker 3: which is her psychiatrist. That's what glam is. Okay, they're
Speaker 3: are psychologists. There are confidants. We tell them everything. They
Speaker 3: hear us. They look over our shoulders when we're on
Speaker 3: our phones in their chairs, they see you we're talking about.
Speaker 4: They know all of our business.
Speaker 3: So it is perfectly normal to talk a little shit
Speaker 3: about how you feel to your glam.
Speaker 4: Now, did Kelly overreact by saying shut it down? Some
Speaker 4: people can say yes, some can say no, but it
Speaker 4: is annoying.
Speaker 3: Now, I think, now this is what Britt was a
Speaker 3: hypocritical She says that Kelly's idea, she insisted that Britt
Speaker 3: use her glam, but she's insecure.
Speaker 4: An insecure woman is not going to lend you her glam.
Speaker 4: An insecure woman's gonna say, ah, my people a book.
Speaker 3: They're really expensive, and they're not gonna say yes, let's share,
Speaker 3: and I'm not buying her. Reason because Kelly needed a
Speaker 3: plus one, or she's scared to be by herself. Everyone
Speaker 3: likes Kelly. Nobody likes Britt. Kelly has options of people
Speaker 3: to go out with Britt.
Speaker 6: You do not no no shed She me and Kelly
Speaker 6: want it to be i'man interrupt you, but I want
Speaker 6: the number one. She's the best looking person. She went
Speaker 6: between the two of them. She didn't want to be
Speaker 6: number two.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get that too.
Speaker 4: When she said that she needed she needed a sidekick.
Speaker 3: Okay, so okay, so she she's so angry that that
Speaker 3: Kelly committed this violation of talking about her to her
Speaker 3: Glam team. Then the very next breath does exactly that
Speaker 3: time ten being a messy bitch, you threw everyone else
Speaker 3: under the bus and your you did.
Speaker 4: You did way worse than what you were mad at
Speaker 4: Kelly for and you couldn't.
Speaker 3: Be there for your best friend going through a divorce
Speaker 3: over a Glam argument that should have been a five
Speaker 3: minute conversation.
Speaker 4: Look, bitch, I just don't like it.
Speaker 3: I feel like Proutie right here, me and Demetria. Everyone
Speaker 3: knew i'd have a sigh on Real Housewives at Atlanta.
Speaker 4: I didn't care. I was wearing my forever twenty one
Speaker 4: and if.
Speaker 3: I want to get dressed up pink boutique from London
Speaker 3: if I want a little eighty nine hundred dress. I
Speaker 3: was holding to pay for my poorsch Panamra and my
Speaker 3: expensive as high Rise.
Speaker 4: I was saying, okay, I was yeah, and I still
Speaker 4: have them. Okay. So I remember, Dmitria, don't be mad
Speaker 4: at me. Tell the story, but it's the truth.
Speaker 3: So when we went to fashion Week, she loaned me
Speaker 3: Dallas her silence, yes, I'll put some looks to me together.
Speaker 4: And I could tell one of the looks that was
Speaker 4: real cute on me. I don't think missed me. I
Speaker 4: think she was like, oh, and she says.
Speaker 3: Something like about that would have been a look for me,
Speaker 3: And at that moment I knew, all right, She's you know,
Speaker 3: it's annoying because it's my friend, but I get it,
Speaker 3: like you want your stylist to say, I want you
Speaker 3: to be the baddest girl there. So know your team's
Speaker 3: leaving and then going to the next person. He's having
Speaker 3: the same kind conversation was here. Plus Kelly's at a disadvantage.
Speaker 3: Kelly's five three great, It's like five eight, five nine.
Speaker 3: Even if they do their best styling work, it's not
Speaker 3: gonna hit the same. It's gonna it's done. I'm sorry, Kelly,
Speaker 3: You're amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, claud.
Speaker 3: It's just bye by this body type. It's just gonna
Speaker 3: look more fashion on brit no matter what. So but
Speaker 3: I can understand why she was irritated. I also, in
Speaker 3: a way could understand why brit would be well the
Speaker 3: other one. I suggested it, But Britt, I don't think
Speaker 3: she had thought giving her you, her glam was gonna
Speaker 3: be for every day and then you taking the photographer
Speaker 3: that make a part of the video like everything, like
Speaker 3: you know, use them and then to get on your
Speaker 3: feet and then get you somebody.
Speaker 4: So I think she violated.
Speaker 3: She did the same thing she was She did worse
Speaker 3: than what she was mad at Kelly for. And it's
Speaker 3: it's a fake beef. It's corny.
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you, Claudia Jordan, you welcome.
Speaker 2: I tried to tell the girls last week. They said,
Speaker 2: girl shut out all re lit it.
Speaker 1: I'll go further and say this, in Black Hollywood, when
Speaker 1: it comes to scripted actors and actresses, let's just so
Speaker 1: let's stick with actresses. Obviously, when it comes to the
Speaker 1: actresses in Black Hollywood, they do share the same glam.
Speaker 2: There's a wonderfult hair stylist.
Speaker 1: Named Larry Sims there than he is Shaunta Larry sim
Speaker 1: he's the goat. Their stylis named Jason Bolden who styles everybody. Right,
Speaker 1: you can share the same glam in that regard because
Speaker 1: we're all getting dressed for different events. Hey, Tisha, and
Speaker 1: we're not all we're not all on the same gig.
Speaker 2: We're just we're all just being style for the Oscars.
Speaker 1: But like Laulia said, body types and based on style
Speaker 1: and taste, we're all gonna look different at the end
Speaker 1: of the day. The difference is this, and hear me,
Speaker 1: love and clear. When it comes to reality stars females,
Speaker 1: they're not sharing the same glam. And I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you the differences. The different is you're on the same show.
Speaker 1: We are together for three months.
Speaker 2: Every I'm gonna tell y'all something that y'all may know, but.
Speaker 1: I'll just tell y'all anyway, when the girls get dressed,
Speaker 1: they all size up each other and say okay, And
Speaker 1: then they also all the girls have a group.
Speaker 2: Chat what are you wearing? What are we giving?
Speaker 1: Because you don't want to be overdressed doing the most,
Speaker 1: and you don't want to be underdressed doing the least.
Speaker 1: So a lot of these reality girls are in group chats, girl,
Speaker 1: what you were in today? What will look are we giving?
Speaker 1: That's what they do.
Speaker 2: Nobody on reality television.
Speaker 1: Ninety nine point nine percent are sharing the glam for
Speaker 1: the exact same reasons. Claudia said about Demetria again, it's
Speaker 1: no shade to Demetria. It's more so light that out
Speaker 1: there could have been for me or while she's looking
Speaker 1: better than me. The thing with Britt that I clocked
Speaker 1: instantly and this and no shape. I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's BRIT's fault. Britt has this and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fast for the comeback because I can't help myself.
Speaker 2: Britt. Look at Phager's events. I have never Britt, I
Speaker 2: Britt job has never looked better.
Speaker 6: You see the did you see that sand Yeah, Brit
Speaker 6: been dressed to say what you want to say, but
Speaker 6: she's been dressed.
Speaker 2: It's as she had work.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was the.
Speaker 1: Bob was the bob was the limp of my beard
Speaker 1: under It was a it.
Speaker 2: Was a blunt cut.
Speaker 4: It was really well done.
Speaker 3: I give the bob a ten point zero on the Bob.
Speaker 1: It wasn't boded omer now, I mean under Now, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this. I don't know Britt. I know, I
Speaker 1: don't know Kelly personally, but I got and I've been
Speaker 1: doing reality TV for seventeen years, and I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 1: I do believe that Kelly saw what the glam was
Speaker 1: giving Brit and said, Okay, y'all doing too.
Speaker 2: Much, like like like like, okay, y'all doing too much.
Speaker 2: Y'all belong to.
Speaker 1: Me, so come come back home. And I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: This for a fact. I'm pretty sure maybe some are
Speaker 2: all the glad probably said, but look what this bitch
Speaker 2: has given us the work. I'm just saying it could be.
Speaker 5: Well, I guess I'm different, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Whatever, I'm just not like that if I I can't
Speaker 6: nobody do what I do, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: just like I can't do what nobody else does. So
Speaker 6: I would not like if me and you was going
Speaker 6: to say me and you was going to the Immageorge
Speaker 6: Carlos Claudia, we had a great time at the Immageoris
Speaker 6: together say same and you was going to the Immageorge
Speaker 6: Loos and we was both being styled by Jason Bowlden.
Speaker 5: Right, I wouldn't give a fuck. You gonna look good
Speaker 5: as fucking whatever you put on, and I know I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Have my shit on.
Speaker 5: I would not care.
Speaker 2: So we're but but.
Speaker 1: In our defense and guys, I just gotta say this
Speaker 1: a Claudia being the only woman here, stop me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Dusted on some real ship. I think there's
Speaker 1: two differences. Okay, we're men who are not on reality.
Speaker 2: I think it's that. I think it's one thing.
Speaker 1: That Lisa Wu Heartwell formally Heartwell said season one to
Speaker 1: Deshaun Snow. She said, when women get dressed, women don't
Speaker 1: dress for men.
Speaker 2: Women dress for other women.
Speaker 6: We do well, I feel you, but I just don't
Speaker 6: when it comes to you know how I am when
Speaker 6: it comes to jealousy that I don't.
Speaker 5: That's a boundary for me.
Speaker 6: The minute I smell a hint of resentment, jealousy, any
Speaker 6: of that ship, the friendship is over. We just you know,
Speaker 6: we just associates basically at that point. But so I
Speaker 6: wouldn't have had no issue. But again, I'm a guy.
Speaker 6: Maybe the restionale is a little bit different, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So I respect the room for people
Speaker 6: to have their own feelings about stuff, but I just
Speaker 6: don't like none of that shit. Do your thing, but
Speaker 6: do your thing just because you're good at your thing,
Speaker 6: don't mean that it's going to negatively impact me. I
Speaker 6: think it's actually better if we both doing our damn thing,
Speaker 6: Like that's the energy I beyond.
Speaker 5: Let's all be out here getting it. So, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm just because you have confidence, and a lot of
Speaker 3: half this cast doesn't have confidence.
Speaker 4: They have paid confidence.
Speaker 3: The ones that are usually loud and mouthing off and
Speaker 3: trying to have a moment usually have the least amount
Speaker 3: of confidence. Even if they look stunning, they still don't
Speaker 3: have the confidence.
Speaker 4: So there's going to be an issue. I think. You know,
Speaker 4: I didn't like seeing Kelly like.
Speaker 3: Mad about it, but I understood, okay, you know, I
Speaker 3: mean I knew people were going to come for her, like, oh,
Speaker 3: she's just suggests she's just jealous because it looks better
Speaker 3: or whatever they're saying. I mean, you know, but it
Speaker 3: does suck when it's your idea to share your people
Speaker 3: and then they do you feel in your mind that damn,
Speaker 3: they kind of doing that thing or her, and I'm
Speaker 3: not really getting that same because there's a silent a
Speaker 3: couple of styles that I've used the forewhere I feel
Speaker 3: like they do really good work with other people. But
Speaker 3: when it comes to be putting anything on me, like ah,
Speaker 3: sh an't use nothing, you can just give her, I'm
Speaker 3: give me the same, like stop giving me the bullshit,
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean. I felt like Cinderella
Speaker 3: upstairs trying to so address together with mice helping me
Speaker 3: and random ribbons and shit, but then you go all
Speaker 3: out and give met galloping other people like I get it,
Speaker 3: cause I get that happened to me a lot. I
Speaker 3: think it's people don't associate me as one of the fast.
Speaker 3: I know amount of the fasts. Let's be very clear,
Speaker 3: y'all don't have to remind me. I know this, so
Speaker 3: they think.
Speaker 4: You'll be happy with anything.
Speaker 3: So it does feel like shit when you're like, damn,
Speaker 3: Actually the bat wards, I felt like me and Annie
Speaker 3: went and she was flawless, and I didn't feel good
Speaker 3: about myself.
Speaker 4: I wasn't mad at her though, it wasn't mad at her.
Speaker 5: That's my point, you might not be to me.
Speaker 6: It's just the comparison dynamic is just toxic to me.
Speaker 6: And friendship. Now, if we're not friends, and fuck it,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. But if we're friends, that's
Speaker 6: toxic to me, which is why what I saw it
Speaker 6: take place at Phager's event between Britain, Kelly completely blatantly
Speaker 6: identified the fact that they are not friends, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, and they were never friends. They have
Speaker 6: never been friends, and that is why it was much
Speaker 6: deeper than just a stylist, you know, giving attention to
Speaker 6: them both. It was more than that. That's when they
Speaker 6: started to engage. Kelly really wasn't engaging. Remember she literally
Speaker 6: didn't even speak back. She just kept her head turned
Speaker 6: and the look on her face. I've been alive a
Speaker 6: long time, and the look on Kelly's face read to
Speaker 6: me as if today is a day I'm already going
Speaker 6: through x YZ. I really don't even want to be
Speaker 6: here right now. I'm not even going to engage, and
Speaker 6: she turned her head and then they continued to go
Speaker 6: and then the shit came out. I don't feel like
Speaker 6: Kelly was really present in that argument. I feel like
Speaker 6: Grid ate her alive in that argument, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. And I don't think that Kelly is a
Speaker 6: person who has trouble finding her way with words.
Speaker 5: So I just think there was something else going on
Speaker 5: that day, in that moment when they.
Speaker 6: Were shooting that that affected what we ended up seeing
Speaker 6: because that was not the same Kelly that we've seen
Speaker 6: all season long. And yeah, I just feel like she
Speaker 6: looked detailed, like just just removed from the situation.
Speaker 5: Something was going on, you know why.
Speaker 3: I think probably she was going through that that I
Speaker 3: don't think it went. You know, the divorce situation. She's there,
Speaker 3: She's been wanting to get a divorce for a long time.
Speaker 4: It got delayed again.
Speaker 3: She's probably sick of this annoying ass motherfucker and wants
Speaker 3: the gut ties. And then the girl that you kind
Speaker 3: of like was ride or died with for a while
Speaker 3: until you get off the sunken ship, the sinking ship, Kelly,
Speaker 3: you had her back to your detriment in the beginning,
Speaker 3: you know, you had her back, and all you wanted,
Speaker 3: like these girls you barely even know, Angela Oakley that
Speaker 3: you don't even hang with, like that, all the other
Speaker 3: girls were checking up on you and the girl that
Speaker 3: claimed to be y'all had some kind of pack to say, y'all,
Speaker 3: we Bethy's whatever did not come through you because she's
Speaker 3: matter about a glam argument like yeah, the glam thing,
Speaker 3: you can say, all right, Kelly, maybe using your feelings,
Speaker 3: you were wrong on that, but damn I would think, Okay,
Speaker 3: be mad at me over something small, check me on that.
Speaker 3: But then the big things in my life a parent dying,
Speaker 3: a divorce, a city that you would overlook the bullshit
Speaker 3: for the bigger stuff, don't like especially like like Kelly said,
Speaker 3: when I brought a whole ivy there, like you know,
Speaker 3: session to your house.
Speaker 4: I did this, I did that, I did this, and.
Speaker 3: I couldn't get a phone call when I'm going through
Speaker 3: a divorce, but these girls I don't really know.
Speaker 4: I'll call me. Hell, yes, she's an I would out.
Speaker 3: I would have sung her too with that event, like
Speaker 3: oh you want to talk to me, because then you
Speaker 3: could tell and you know, when a bitch knows.
Speaker 4: She lookedod right. So she came in from the top
Speaker 4: of the bride.
Speaker 3: She came there and she she was very antagonistic when
Speaker 3: she said her.
Speaker 4: Hello to Kelly, that's not how I'm real friend. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she was like hey Kelly, and she was trying it.
Speaker 4: I would have flapped the shit out of her right
Speaker 4: then there.
Speaker 3: If that was my my fake gust friend Jordan didn't
Speaker 3: chuck on me that that would have.
Speaker 4: Been enough because she was trying to antagonize her with that.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't think, Okay, that is that?
Speaker 2: That is interesting.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm glad we get these different perspectives. I
Speaker 1: didn't think about that until you said it, Brit. And
Speaker 1: we'll get to the Charles Angela and Marcus thing too,
Speaker 1: but let's just go with the flood with this conversation.
Speaker 2: So at page this event, what.
Speaker 1: We're talking about now is how Kelly and Britt read
Speaker 1: each other. So Britt walks in Britt. If you're watching
Speaker 1: or you're glam tans across the board, I have.
Speaker 2: Britt did and this look looked amazing.
Speaker 1: And it's the reason why I told y'all in the
Speaker 1: first episode I said there is something.
Speaker 2: About Britt, not Mary that I like. There's something about her.
Speaker 1: It makes me sad that we're not going to see
Speaker 1: on the show anymore because I felt like Britt again,
Speaker 1: if you're watching I don't know what happened to you.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about that.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, but what I will say as a viewer,
Speaker 1: this is only me speaking as a viewer. This episode
Speaker 1: made me want you more on the show. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you why it was, because the thing is this.
Speaker 1: When I first saw brit pop up on the screen,
Speaker 1: I said, mss Mama has a spice to her that
Speaker 1: I think is very delicious that I'm just curious what
Speaker 1: it is. That's why I felt like, Brit, You're better
Speaker 1: than the shade she was giving Kenya, because.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I felt like, you're trying too hard.
Speaker 1: That ain't ain't that ain't nothing to work with, and
Speaker 1: I thought it felt flat. But when you're having an
Speaker 1: issue with your girl, that's when your real attitude comes out.
Speaker 1: And that's why this episode I felt like Episode sixteen
Speaker 1: Lord Jesus was the first episode where I got to
Speaker 1: the real Brit. Whether it was cute or not, it
Speaker 1: was who she is and that's why I don't judge reality.
Speaker 1: Start just be you.
Speaker 2: You're right, Claudia, I didn't think about this. Brick came
Speaker 2: in no where. Her shit looked good, you know, she
Speaker 2: knew like, bitch, I use your glam to look like
Speaker 2: this and I'm.
Speaker 4: Make you mad. That's what she came in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's kind of like when a girl gets dressed
Speaker 1: up and she knows that her ex boyfriend is gonna
Speaker 1: beat there with his new girl, and you sort of
Speaker 1: walk in and you say, hey, you good, Hi, I'm
Speaker 1: Claudia Jordan, and you walk away because you want the
Speaker 1: grul to know. Bitches, this is what your man used
Speaker 1: to have. But I digressed, so I was I love Kelly.
Speaker 1: I was surprised that Kelly was passive AGGRESSI up, Kelly.
Speaker 2: I love you baby. You were passive AGGRESSI up.
Speaker 1: And when Brit clocked in and said it's aggressive, No,
Speaker 1: you're passive aggressive, Kelly's like, no, I'm aggress up. This
Speaker 1: is subtle Claudia and Dustin. But this is when I
Speaker 1: screamed and ran away. Britt stepped up to the grunk said, oh, really,
Speaker 1: you aggress up.
Speaker 2: I've never seen it that love Claudia Dustin.
Speaker 1: The fact that she walked two feet in front of
Speaker 1: her gave me everything I needed to know because Britt
Speaker 1: was like, bitch, you're captain and I'm gonna show it.
Speaker 1: And when Kelly made the comment about your pill popping roommate,
Speaker 1: which to me and I would love to get your
Speaker 1: thoughts too, obviously meant to me two things. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say the second because I'm not here to do that.
Speaker 1: But I thought two things when she said Britt's husband's
Speaker 1: her roommate. The second one I'm not gonna say. The
Speaker 1: first one was y'all not really married, That ain't your husband,
Speaker 1: That ain't your husband? Boob stop it, and y'all do
Speaker 1: pop hills. When she said that, and then Brit gagg
Speaker 1: for ninety seconds and then came back and said the
Speaker 1: word about the abortions, I would love to get your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that.
Speaker 2: I'm being honest.
Speaker 1: I'm all for shade for shade. I don't like your
Speaker 1: Mama jokes because I felt like that's too far. Other
Speaker 1: people like it, and that's fair. There's something about shading
Speaker 1: some a woman who had an abortion for abortions.
Speaker 2: That to me, this is just how I feel.
Speaker 1: I felt like shading somebody that had an abortion, to
Speaker 1: me is very low because I know how difficult it
Speaker 1: is for a woman to decide to do that. Other
Speaker 1: people may agree and say you can't call me a
Speaker 1: pill popper and I can't go to hell with you.
Speaker 1: I get that. I'm just saying for me. I felt
Speaker 1: the abortion thing was too.
Speaker 2: Love so let me.
Speaker 3: I had the same reaction as both of you, and
Speaker 3: I just want to jump in before we go too
Speaker 3: far with that argument that it was that Kelly, sorry
Speaker 3: Rit's husband she was talking about. So I thought that
Speaker 3: same thing to also, And then I called one of
Speaker 3: the houses.
Speaker 5: I didn't think that she was talking to.
Speaker 3: Yes, you needed to because stages to calm Kelly down
Speaker 3: and key you taught.
Speaker 4: You a pill pop and roommate meaning.
Speaker 5: On the trip, yeah, yeah, ship, and I had at.
Speaker 3: My notes and I was like, oh my goodness, she
Speaker 3: was talking to Phaedra. Yeah, so she on her pill popper.
Speaker 3: I thought at first, I was like, she didn't call
Speaker 3: her pill popper, but she was saying pill pop and roomy.
Speaker 4: But that would explain.
Speaker 2: Current journal job o.
Speaker 1: God.
Speaker 6: I never thought she was talking about her husband. I
Speaker 6: was following, following the volley of the conversation and I
Speaker 6: saw Phaedra, you know, in the middle or whatever, And
Speaker 6: I never it never crossed my mind to think about
Speaker 6: her that she was talking about her husband. Never until
Speaker 6: you just said that, I always knew it was it
Speaker 6: was Phaedra. So that's crazy to me because it's you
Speaker 6: guys obviously are and alone. It was probably a bunch
Speaker 6: of people that thought that their relationship changed when Kelly
Speaker 6: and Shmiah got close in real life. I've seen them
Speaker 6: at a club together in New York City. They hanging
Speaker 6: out big time outside of this show taping. Kelly and
Speaker 6: Britt had whatever pack they had to be besties or
Speaker 6: whatever during the season, and what happened was Kelly picked Shmia.
Speaker 6: Kelly and Shamia got close for real, and when they
Speaker 6: was in Grenada and that shit went down about the donations,
Speaker 6: Samia had Kelly support at that table. Kelly even said
Speaker 6: something about the donations or whatever that kind of was identifying,
Speaker 6: you know, brit as a person who didn't donate right,
Speaker 6: And I believe that was the fork in the role
Speaker 6: for them. Ever since they was at that table in Grenada,
Speaker 6: they've been off and Kelly sided with Samiyah in that conversation.
Speaker 6: They've been off ever since that point, and they did
Speaker 6: not talk from Grenada all the way until Well. I
Speaker 6: love Shemiah so much, but she's not the best person
Speaker 6: when it comes to acting in the scenes. Because when
Speaker 6: she asked Kelly, like, so, you haven't talked to once
Speaker 6: last time we talked to brit. You haven't talked to
Speaker 6: her since you since Grenada. Wow, you know she ain't
Speaker 6: talked to her because you and Kelly been talking and
Speaker 6: you know that she hasn't talked to her, And so
Speaker 6: that's been a thing that was brewing between them. They
Speaker 6: weren't speaking. And so maybe though that shit did start
Speaker 6: coming up, the resentment about the looks, and maybe that
Speaker 6: was the motivation to be looking so damn good when
Speaker 6: she showed up like that. Maybe so, But their shit
Speaker 6: broke right there at their table in Grenada.
Speaker 5: That was the line that was crushed.
Speaker 6: But the closeness between Kelly and Shamia in real life
Speaker 6: their friends for real in real life, they hang out
Speaker 6: outside of these cameras to this day, and that is
Speaker 6: what drove the rift between brit and Kelly.
Speaker 5: That's what happened.
Speaker 4: I watched that.
Speaker 3: Scene maybe five or six times, and I was really
Speaker 3: really triggered by it.
Speaker 4: I really was triggered by it. I mean it really really.
Speaker 3: Bothered me because anyone who's ever had somebody close to them,
Speaker 3: betray their trust and tell something that is so dark
Speaker 3: I don't even know if it's a true reader. Not
Speaker 3: the abortion thing that's me here nor there, but the
Speaker 3: fact that a woman would use that against another woman,
Speaker 3: when so many women have had abortions, when so many
Speaker 3: women have had problems with fertility, when so many women
Speaker 3: have experienced that, And to sit here on a high
Speaker 3: horse and say that you've had abortions during your marriage,
Speaker 3: when you know this woman is going through a messy divorce.
Speaker 3: We can say, yes, well, Kelly put an accusation about
Speaker 3: Britt and doing pills, right, I just don't think it's
Speaker 3: the same. I just don't like. I just feel like,
Speaker 3: get hit it with something else. But that was such
Speaker 3: a gross moment. And I've had friends betray me in
Speaker 3: similar situations like that, where they told something where you're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I cannot believe you went there. I
Speaker 3: cannot leave up all the things you could say about
Speaker 3: me that you went there.
Speaker 4: And when in that very moment, as.
Speaker 3: Beautiful as Britt looked, I looked at her like the devil.
Speaker 3: It really bothered me, Like I was like, oh, oh
Speaker 3: my god, it seems like she has no bottom. There's
Speaker 3: no end to where she will go. She'll go as
Speaker 3: low as she needs to go for the moment. And
Speaker 3: I don't know if she's just extremely erratic. It gives unstable,
Speaker 3: it gives uh, there's no boundaries, there's there's no I'm
Speaker 3: sure Kelly knows some other dirty things about brit that's
Speaker 3: worse than pilpoping that she could have said that she didn't.
Speaker 3: And to me, part of being a housewife and not
Speaker 3: a basketball wife or housewife and not a love and
Speaker 3: hip hop girl where there they get a little bit
Speaker 3: more guttter with it, right, is the ability to insinuate
Speaker 3: something where bitch, you know what I'm talking about and
Speaker 3: people can read between the lines and you still say,
Speaker 3: stay elegant and classy about it.
Speaker 4: That's a good housewive to me.
Speaker 3: But when you just get gutta and filthy and dirty, listen,
Speaker 3: I got a lot of information on a lot of
Speaker 3: people that y'all say, I hate that. I've never said that.
Speaker 3: I still hold onto and over an argument from glam
Speaker 3: to telling about abortions. I just feel like the punishment
Speaker 3: did not fit the crime. I just felt it was
Speaker 3: way too fucking far and brick deserves, like her ass
Speaker 3: whips over that if I was, if that was in
Speaker 3: my friend's circle, like that's like there's no going back
Speaker 3: from something like that. You know, I'm going through a
Speaker 3: divorce and you gonna say I had abortions during my marriage?
Speaker 3: So are you saying I have one of my my
Speaker 3: husband's kids or that I got pregnant by somebody?
Speaker 4: What the fuck are you saying?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: What are you saying? You know? I don't know.
Speaker 3: And the way Britt acts, she does act like a
Speaker 3: pill popper because she's calm, then she's erratic. She makes
Speaker 3: these really ak I made these erratic angry faces. She's
Speaker 3: up down, up down, and she gives me very much.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm gonna get. The way she
Speaker 3: responds to a level two crisis with a level ten
Speaker 3: intent to me gives instability and something's going on. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying she's a druggie, because I've never seen her doing,
Speaker 3: but she got something going on. That brain hers because
Speaker 3: it's fucked, it's chopped and screwed. And I thought that
Speaker 3: was disgusting. It was growth, brit and you are real
Speaker 3: bird for that. That's bird bitch bum behavior. It was
Speaker 3: trashed and I didn't like it, and it took all
Speaker 3: all the accolades because you did look drop dead gorgeous
Speaker 3: and stunny on the show, But your soul is dark
Speaker 3: and ugly and fucked and you are a terrible woman.
Speaker 3: You're not a girl's girl. I called it, and I
Speaker 3: clocked it weeks ago. You're not a girl's girl. You
Speaker 3: don't have girlfriends. You could tell your own family. I
Speaker 3: don't really fuck with you.
Speaker 4: And that is not everybody being jealous because you're pretty.
Speaker 4: It's easy to be pretty.
Speaker 3: We all got fucking filters and hair dye and weaves
Speaker 3: and lash is okay. It's not that rare to see
Speaker 3: somebody pretty. And the fact that you think all of
Speaker 3: your problems are because of your looks and not because
Speaker 3: of your inner you need to work on that core.
Speaker 4: There's something going on there, there really is. And it
Speaker 4: was Gotda.
Speaker 3: It was Gota and Kelly. You know, Kelly did a
Speaker 3: low blow too. You can't have kids. I didn't like
Speaker 3: none of that shit.
Speaker 4: I thought it was terrible. I thought it was terrible.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: It made me miss Kenya because I felt like, and
Speaker 6: this is you know whatever, I'm watching the show I'm
Speaker 6: a viewer. This shit ain't personal to me, so watching
Speaker 6: that volley back and forth between Kelly and bridd.
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, I wish Cany was there.
Speaker 6: My hope is that next year, Because you want to
Speaker 6: talk about somebody skating, Phaedra actually skated these five episodes.
Speaker 6: She was unmatched when it came to She didn't have
Speaker 6: any worthy opponent on this cast.
Speaker 5: Her and Porsche, our friend Lee on the show.
Speaker 6: I would love to see Kenya Moore be added to
Speaker 6: the cast next season. I would love to see her
Speaker 6: come back full time. I would love to see Niani
Speaker 6: come back. I'm just being a delusional fan right now,
Speaker 6: right of the show. I would love to see Ninnie
Speaker 6: come back. To me if you bring Ninnie and Kenya
Speaker 6: back next year, even if Nini's a friend, we got
Speaker 6: a show.
Speaker 5: We got a motherfucking show. So I don't know. Uh,
Speaker 5: it just made me miss Kenya.
Speaker 6: I think she would have added a lot to that
Speaker 6: event overall, to Phaedra's return to all of that.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. It just I would love
Speaker 5: to see them next season. That's all.
Speaker 6: And one last thing loves and pay Candy a million
Speaker 6: dollars an episode for five so she can come to
Speaker 6: Kenya's events and we can finally get a sit down
Speaker 6: with between her and Phaedro and they show pay Candy
Speaker 6: a million episode. Let her have five episodes and we
Speaker 6: and were good. You know what I'm saying, that's all
Speaker 6: we need.
Speaker 4: They gotta, Yeah, they gotta, they gotta.
Speaker 3: I think they need to address some of the unresolved
Speaker 3: things and get some of the old girlies back.
Speaker 4: I think that would definitely, you know, like maybe I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 3: There's some there's some world where that could actually happen
Speaker 3: where you get them back, but you I just think
Speaker 3: it's like such a letdown, like this season with with
Speaker 3: Porscha and Faser when they came back. Yes, they were
Speaker 3: missed by the fans and they are fan favorites, right,
Speaker 3: like ignoring the reason why they weren't there and then
Speaker 3: playing in our faces the whole season like that of
Speaker 3: course is gonna give.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a letdown.
Speaker 3: If we could like kind of get into some of that,
Speaker 3: I think that would have actually helped as well.
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree, I think I know it's difficult,
Speaker 1: but I definitely think it's one of those things where
Speaker 1: you have to address the elephant in the realm. Because
Speaker 1: one thing that I always wrestle with as a producer is.
Speaker 2: This is no secret.
Speaker 1: There's so much that goes on in production because again,
Speaker 1: for example, a lot of people think I make all
Speaker 1: the decisions right, I'm always like, this ain't the Carlos
Speaker 1: King Network.
Speaker 2: I don't pay talent out of my savings account.
Speaker 1: Everything. Everybody has a boss. And that's the thing that
Speaker 1: people don't understand. Everybody has the boss when you're on television.
Speaker 1: The top brass are the ones who make the final decisions. Okay,
Speaker 1: perfect example, when I got Claudia, I said I want
Speaker 1: to be a housewife, they said child, she got to
Speaker 1: work with this thing, and I'm like, I sees partition
Speaker 1: of her. And then I didn't get my way, but
Speaker 1: I got some I got some say, but I don't
Speaker 1: have a final say. I say all of that, I
Speaker 1: could not agree more. I do think the audience who
Speaker 1: are very special to this show, and this show is
Speaker 1: very special to the audience. I do think the lack
Speaker 1: of the one on one between Freak and Frack of
Speaker 1: about what happened, even if it was a seven minute conversation.
Speaker 1: I think the audience is too invested, too special, that
Speaker 1: that Housewives of Atlanta forget the rest of the cities
Speaker 1: in this moment. The real Housewives of Atlanta audience are
Speaker 1: the most special human beings when it comes to the
Speaker 1: franchise because they care.
Speaker 2: They care about the show.
Speaker 1: They even when they shade it, I know that they're
Speaker 1: shading it because they care about it. I do think
Speaker 1: it's a It's unfortunate that the audience could not have
Speaker 1: gotten that. I agree with you too when it comes
Speaker 1: to that point when it comes to Kelly and Britt,
Speaker 1: I agree with the both of you. Kelly and Britt,
Speaker 1: y'all were never friends to have that level of falling
Speaker 1: out over glamm I'm now with Claudia in the in
Speaker 1: the sense of where y'all friends when y'all were cast
Speaker 1: to be on the show. Because as much as I
Speaker 1: go with at it with my friends, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go add it like that, but let's have an argument.
Speaker 2: I'm never going to go to the depths of hell
Speaker 2: to embarrass you ever, especially over Glham.
Speaker 1: We're arguing over hangars and dresses and shoes were tape
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the soul, like, is that what
Speaker 1: we're doing?
Speaker 3: It?
Speaker 2: To me? I thought they both were wrong to to
Speaker 2: now now that I know this.
Speaker 1: I felt Kelly was wrong about the when I thought
Speaker 1: she was talking about the husband, and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: does he have to do with this conversation? Shade her
Speaker 1: now that I'm aware that she was actually calling Britt
Speaker 1: a pill popper.
Speaker 2: If Brits takes pills, I don't need I don't.
Speaker 1: There's certain things about reality stars that I just don't
Speaker 1: want to know. I don't if that's your if that's
Speaker 1: what you do, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't need to know those things.
Speaker 1: When it comes to whether or not Kelly had an abortion,
Speaker 1: and for the record, she says she did not.
Speaker 2: She said her tubs are tied.
Speaker 1: I don't want to know if my reality starts having
Speaker 1: abortion unless they want to tell me that.
Speaker 2: Unless they want to tell me that.
Speaker 1: When Kimmy was diagnosed with breast cancer on Love and
Speaker 1: Mash Huntsville, I told you got this throw already. It
Speaker 1: was so personal that I said to her, it's your
Speaker 1: choice to tell your story if you want to quit
Speaker 1: and and and go through chemo and all of that
Speaker 1: on your own and not tell the not tell a
Speaker 1: soul that's your I'm gonna ride for you, sis. It
Speaker 1: was her choice to say I want to talk about
Speaker 1: it and bring these women along my journey. Abortions and
Speaker 1: pill popping as shade to me is whack a f
Speaker 1: I think it's disgusting and girls. Shame someone's folded up
Speaker 1: bob shame somebody ready, chase somebody spaghetty straps, Chase something like.
Speaker 3: You ain't just about to give to mind. Shase someone
Speaker 3: that can bridesmaids. Shame, someone that used to be on
Speaker 3: a pole. Chase someone who got brand new once I
Speaker 3: got a little checked. Chase someone's lace front. But don't
Speaker 3: just you know, you ain't about to just.
Speaker 4: Do mine now.
Speaker 5: Probably I love you, but.
Speaker 3: I will say that I see people in comments. At
Speaker 3: first I did think the same things Colors. I thought
Speaker 3: the pill poper comment was about BRIT's husband, so I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, that was so disgusting that that Kelly
Speaker 3: Britt will respond with the abortion talk.
Speaker 4: But now that we know, we know, I think they
Speaker 4: were both wrong in that scene. They were both wrong.
Speaker 3: They they pulled, they took out you know when you
Speaker 3: have They both brought like guns to knife fights. Right,
Speaker 3: they both went too hard and used weapons of mass
Speaker 3: destruction on each other where they can never come back
Speaker 3: from that. To me, that means the stakes whenever that high,
Speaker 3: you weren't really friends certain people, when you're really friends.
Speaker 4: Someone like you, I'm not gonna because you're like, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna fuck with you in two weeks.
Speaker 3: But right now, oh, you might say a little shade,
Speaker 3: give her the light shade. Oh that's why your heels
Speaker 3: is at acting great. I don't know, but not personal
Speaker 3: soul crushing stuff. And I will say, Kelly, exposing that
Speaker 3: your friends of ahthough.
Speaker 4: We can connor already tell that was that was fouled
Speaker 4: to do in front of her. I'm just saying she's erratic.
Speaker 4: I never seen bat news. Let me protect the show.
Speaker 4: I never seen the drugs, no drugs like that. But
Speaker 4: she's erratic. But saying that if you do have knowledge
Speaker 4: of that, that.
Speaker 3: You got only because you were allowed to be close
Speaker 3: to her because your friends, that is wrong. And Britt
Speaker 3: exposing someone may potentially I have done have an abortion
Speaker 3: because you were friends with her and she confided in you,
Speaker 3: whether she did or she didn't, that was wrong. That
Speaker 3: was fucked up on both of them. I got it,
Speaker 3: they both were. I don't even they were both wrong.
Speaker 3: Right with the Lamb argument, It's like.
Speaker 2: Damn, yeah it was. It was just that there anyone
Speaker 2: to add to that Before I move on.
Speaker 5: To you know, we can we can get onto what
Speaker 5: we need to be discussing.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know how to start to. I I
Speaker 1: came into doing reality television because I did study journalists
Speaker 1: at college, and I do like journalists too.
Speaker 2: Shut up.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling a little way because I shared my journalism
Speaker 3: journey with you, and now you're taking my journalism journey
Speaker 3: from me and you're running with it.
Speaker 4: And I feel like you. Now I'm jealous.
Speaker 1: It's okay as long as you and I both don't
Speaker 1: share the same glam degree. Okay, cover vote journalists.
Speaker 2: Now, I will say this.
Speaker 1: I got to reality television because of my love for
Speaker 1: real people, real stories.
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with real personal story I I I do.
Speaker 1: Understand that there are certain shows that are fake, that
Speaker 1: are scripted, that don't show the reality. I don't want
Speaker 1: to see that on the Housewives of Atlanta. I don't
Speaker 1: ever want to see this on this show. When I
Speaker 1: saw this person named Marcus come out of nowhere and say,
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you Angela about your husband.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to be a one on one and Angela.
Speaker 1: Being the MVP of the season Peyton and said cha by,
Speaker 1: and then for Marcus to.
Speaker 2: Then doing a toast, say.
Speaker 1: And toast to Angela and her husband who's cheating on her?
Speaker 2: It was sort of like like who sent you?
Speaker 1: And it was I'm gonna say when I worked on
Speaker 1: the Real Housepals of Atlanta for years and this is
Speaker 1: some real shit. I cannot tell y'all how many women
Speaker 1: came up to me while we were filming at these
Speaker 1: events that's in the Claudia and they would say to
Speaker 1: me because they knew I was.
Speaker 2: The executive producer of the show.
Speaker 1: I've had so many women come up to me, well,
Speaker 1: you know I messed with her husband?
Speaker 2: What like? Who? First of all, who are you? And
Speaker 2: Who's like, I'm move move that happened.
Speaker 1: I can't count on two hands how many times I
Speaker 1: have people come up to me when I was working
Speaker 1: about some tea they had on my girls the Housewives,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I'm never going to be
Speaker 1: that producer that is going to be so lazy to.
Speaker 2: Tell that story.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm not saying a producer put markets up to
Speaker 1: my saying that, but I also will say this, and
Speaker 1: this is some real stuff. I've had some reality stars
Speaker 1: come up to me during my time as a showrunner
Speaker 1: and say, you know, I got my friend gonna show
Speaker 1: up and because she, she or he got some tea
Speaker 1: about such and such. And I would be like, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to put a mic on a random person
Speaker 1: to do what we're paying you millions.
Speaker 2: Or thousands of hundreds of dollars to do. I'm not
Speaker 2: doing that.
Speaker 1: If you know this information, and if that person in
Speaker 1: your car m who you want me to mike.
Speaker 2: Path the information? Now, how about you go and tell
Speaker 2: them yourself. Be a be a boss, be beat that girl,
Speaker 2: tell them yourself.
Speaker 1: When I what I saw happened, it made me so
Speaker 1: upset because I don't know who put him up to it.
Speaker 2: By no stretch of the imagination was that real.
Speaker 1: And when I say real, meeting that nobody knew in
Speaker 1: that room what was going on.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: If I don't know who, we can we can get
Speaker 1: to that and and and and and sort of debate.
Speaker 1: But it was the laziest ship, and it made me
Speaker 1: disgusted with where reality TV is going to.
Speaker 2: Where that just got camera time.
Speaker 6: I I hateed it.
Speaker 5: It felt completely disjointed.
Speaker 6: It felt like a a up jerk as.
Speaker 5: A viewer, like we were.
Speaker 6: We were we were shaken by watching that ship, and
Speaker 6: not in a good way. First of all, if it
Speaker 6: ever was time to hold up a sign saying who
Speaker 6: is this? You know what I'm saying, that's when it
Speaker 6: That's when the poster shit have came up. It just
Speaker 6: was crazy. I just think that that the young man
Speaker 6: that was on there. I know I saw a bunch
Speaker 6: of posts and ship earlier that people had shared that
Speaker 6: he had made.
Speaker 5: He was live tweeting the episode and stuff.
Speaker 6: He just wanted to be involved and have some attention
Speaker 6: shined on him, and I just think it's unfortunate that
Speaker 6: it was at his own detriment, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: This goes back to Basketball Wives, and it was a
Speaker 6: storyline like that. A guy called Jackie with some information
Speaker 6: one time. Uh, we're back on marriaed to medicine years ago.
Speaker 6: That gentleman came up and said something to quad about
Speaker 6: Lisa Nicole's husband. It's just It's just it's just a
Speaker 6: very elementary play, you know what I mean, very old,
Speaker 6: very We've seen it, heard it all before, and they
Speaker 6: had been doing so well from aduction standpoint with kind
Speaker 6: of following and building a story that this interruption just
Speaker 6: came out of nowhere. Nobody believed what he said, and
Speaker 6: I just felt bad for him. He it just looked
Speaker 6: down bad to me, Like, damn, bro, like that ain't
Speaker 6: even how you really need to be out here trying
Speaker 6: to do your thing. Man, It's other ways you can
Speaker 6: get attention without doing that.
Speaker 5: It just looked bad to me.
Speaker 4: So you think that was a set up by like production,
Speaker 4: that guy, that guy being.
Speaker 6: There, And I think it was set up by somebody
Speaker 6: not production. I think that that that seemed very lazy
Speaker 6: and elementary in a way, that someone who hadn't thought
Speaker 6: things through kind of set that up. So I didn't
Speaker 6: even put that on production. That was from one of
Speaker 6: them cast members. It'll be interesting to find out who.
Speaker 4: So I text two people today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the fact that just came me was not Drew,
Speaker 3: So stop putting on Rew.
Speaker 4: It was definitely not Drew.
Speaker 5: You in the comment putting it was Drew.
Speaker 4: My cousin threw, now, yeah, ain't gonna my cousin.
Speaker 3: So I talked to someone else today about it, and
Speaker 3: you know it was revealed. Well, I think Angel said
Speaker 3: on this episode right that somebody said that they were
Speaker 3: paid to go do it, because I thought that was
Speaker 3: fake til I'm like, was that production that planted that
Speaker 3: person there? How they get in and then they you know, oh,
Speaker 3: well's open event to the public. It's never really open
Speaker 3: event to the public when you're filming because there's release
Speaker 3: forms that have to be signed from everyone that's in there.
Speaker 4: Like everyone knows.
Speaker 3: So they said that one of the housewives paid him
Speaker 3: to be there, and it's not who we think it is.
Speaker 5: I believe it. I believe that one hundred Well that's.
Speaker 1: The thing I now we're looking I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: next the finale because obviously all would be revealed. The
Speaker 1: main thing for me, though, is somebody in that room
Speaker 1: set this guy up to do.
Speaker 5: It, or whoever was You don't need to be there
Speaker 5: no more.
Speaker 1: It's it's just it's not what I want to see
Speaker 1: and it's just not something that I think is necessary.
Speaker 1: If you have information about one of your castmates and
Speaker 1: you feel strongly about whatever then saying like, look, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I felt Britain Killer were
Speaker 1: both wrong for the shade, but at least they both
Speaker 1: said it to each other and didn't send someone.
Speaker 2: Else in to do their job.
Speaker 1: And that's the part to me that just feels so
Speaker 1: gross in terms of like where we are with things,
Speaker 1: because that to me, which just super unnecessary, and I just.
Speaker 2: I just didn't like it.
Speaker 1: It's funny because Dustin's right, I thought about those two
Speaker 1: moments dust that you mentioned in terms of the other
Speaker 1: shows that had a random person come in, and.
Speaker 2: It's just it's the laziest of lazy.
Speaker 6: And never never ends well for that person either, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, because people are now going to
Speaker 6: be looking at the person and picking them apart, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, in ways that maybe deserved, but like, why.
Speaker 5: Would you even put yourself in that position? Why?
Speaker 6: Like, it's just nothing positive that could come from that.
Speaker 6: So it feels stupid as fuck to me, and it
Speaker 6: interrupted what had been in otherwise really enjoying, enjoyable season
Speaker 6: for me.
Speaker 3: For my deductions from I was I've been trying with
Speaker 3: different angles with a couple of the girls I've taught
Speaker 3: to it really was I first, of course, you know,
Speaker 3: I thought it was Britt at first.
Speaker 4: It wasn't Britt. I'm clearing her name right now. And
Speaker 4: it was not for.
Speaker 3: Ship people that y'all say I come for the most.
Speaker 3: I'm clearing their name on this top on this issue, right.
Speaker 3: It was neither one of those two that set this
Speaker 3: person invite this person. Do you think this is this
Speaker 3: kind of feels more of like, would if that do this?
Speaker 3: I don't know, do that do this Carlos Or do
Speaker 3: you think that's a rookie mistake?
Speaker 1: I think I think it's anybody, listen, I don't when
Speaker 1: people want a moment, it doesn't matter your status on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: I think I think there's I think it's just people
Speaker 2: who just want a moment.
Speaker 1: They not maybe for themselves, but it's the opportunity to
Speaker 1: embarrass somebody. It's an opportunity to take the heat off
Speaker 1: of them possibly put There's so many reasons, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you're a rookie or that. People
Speaker 1: do things because they feel like there's something that needs
Speaker 1: to happen. And that's why for me, I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to the finale because I'm so curious about what will
Speaker 1: happened with that.
Speaker 6: I definitely want to know. Remember the cookie Lady, Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: same thing.
Speaker 5: It never ends well for those people.
Speaker 4: So and I will say.
Speaker 3: Condolences to Portia and her family, Londie like that, and
Speaker 3: then you know, that's that's gotta be tough, like losing.
Speaker 4: And I remember her from the show like that. She
Speaker 4: was on the spin off.
Speaker 5: Porscha's family mattered, she was heavily involved.
Speaker 4: Gotta be tough. So rest in peace.
Speaker 5: And for sure, I will say.
Speaker 3: Angela handled that moment really really well, Like it seems
Speaker 3: like people want her to pop off, and she doesn't
Speaker 3: usually take the bait because she could have easily gone
Speaker 3: wait wait what she could have gone to.
Speaker 4: Side, given him a moment.
Speaker 3: She has a very high emotional intelligence or reality, I believe,
Speaker 3: because she could have easily my curious so would have
Speaker 3: probably made the mistake of that wait, come off to
Speaker 3: the sign and take this might what happened, But she.
Speaker 4: Didn't give it anything.
Speaker 3: She knew that it would elevate, it would be a
Speaker 3: force multiplier for him, and she didn't. I just feel
Speaker 3: like she just really she's she just gives experience like experience.
Speaker 1: No, she's dope. She's dope, so no, what a I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed this episode. I really enjoyed it. I know
Speaker 1: it was hard on the episode last week with Grenada,
Speaker 1: but it.
Speaker 2: Was magic that there was so mad at me about that,
Speaker 2: which is fine. You know, listen, drama we missed. It
Speaker 2: wasn't eat about drama. That's why I said.
Speaker 1: It was more so about like I like tris when
Speaker 1: you could get something iconic out of it.
Speaker 2: But you know people don't like to listen child.
Speaker 1: I said, iconic moments, whether it's emotional moments and iconic
Speaker 1: read something iconic. It wasn't about drama. But that's neither
Speaker 1: here nor there. Then we have it all right and
Speaker 1: we will see y'all again next week. Thank you, guys,
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