1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody to the Clay Travis 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate you all joining us. My 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: oh my, do we have a lot to talk to 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: you about. We've got the Biden White House in disarray. 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Will dive into that together in just a moment here. 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean, hearing the excuses and the explanations for what's 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: going on is honestly fascinating because it doesn't even make sense. 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: And we'll tell you what does make sense. We've got that. 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: We've also got Justin Trudeau, the really the great in 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: the pantheon of lib beta males. I think Justin Trudeau 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: is in his own, his own category, He has his 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: own pedestal to stand on. But Justin Trudeau is telling 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: Canadians that their guns have got to go in a 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: whole range of categories. Or rather, there's a freeze on 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: handgun sales plus all long guns five five round capacity 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: in the magazine. That's a new thing that he's instituting. 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: There our Democrats looking at this and thinking how do 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: we make it happen? Here? You know they are. We'll 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: discuss that with you. And there's also, of course more 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: on the baby formulas shortage continues despite the Bide administration 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: recognizing there's an issue here on the DOJ is going 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: to be investigating the response to Uvalde, which I know 24 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: Clay talked to you about a bit more in detail 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: on Friday, so we'll be discussing that. But we just 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: got some breaking news that is discouraging but not surprising, 27 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: not surprising at all, and it's in fact really worth 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: us discussing here for a second that the lawyer for 29 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton campaign, Michael Sussman, who was I mean 30 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: pretty clearly lied to the FBI to get the Russia 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: collusion thing going. The verdict just came down and he 32 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: was found not guilty. So it turns out I just 33 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: want to say to everybody this should not surprise you. 34 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: This is why I don't believe Hunter Biden is going 35 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: to be criminally charged, although there are some rumblings about 36 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: that may be happening. So Clay and I can continue 37 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: to have that discussion here. Clay, Look, you know he's 38 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: there's the deep state in the judiciary. This guy clearly 39 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: misrepresented in a critical way his intentions and the basis 40 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: for the Russia collusion lit But this just came down, folks. 41 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: This as we came on air, the verdict came down 42 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: not guilty Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussman, who got 43 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: the FBI and the media all fired up on the 44 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: Russia collusion. Lie Clay, How does this happen? I think 45 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: it's going to be. First of all, the jury made 46 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: this decision right. So in general, the beyond a reasonable 47 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: doubt standard is a difficult one to reach, and my 48 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: proposition is that juries tend to get things right. I 49 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: think this was a complicated case, and let me explain 50 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: why I think it was complicated. My understanding is there 51 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: was a text message that basically let it be known 52 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: that Michael Sussman was lying to the FBI, But then 53 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: the notes that existed from the actual meeting that he 54 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: had with the FBI was more complicated. And again, the 55 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: standard of beyond a reasonable doubt for a criminal prosecution 56 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: is a high one. Here's what I would say is significant. Regardless, 57 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: there were a lot of facts that came out of 58 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: this case under oath that are very very significant. Leaving 59 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: aside Michael Sussman's role here, First of all, Robbie Mook, 60 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: who was Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, directly testified under oath 61 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: that Hillary okaide this leak of information to the FBI, 62 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: meaning her fingerprints are all over Russia collusion. Under oath 63 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: and testimony in this case, what will be interesting to 64 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: see is how this is played, because remember the New 65 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: York Times is of the world. We're basically pretending this 66 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: case wasn't going on. They weren't covering it on a 67 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: day to day basis, They were not maniacally focused on it. 68 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: Compare it, say, to the way that they covered January sixth, 69 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: Every little nuance of January sixth this front page news. 70 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: Very little of the Subsman trial was treated as front 71 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: page news. What I will be curious about from a 72 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: narrative perspective is whether this as trumpeted as evidence that 73 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and her campaign did nothing wrong right because 74 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: there is a difference between what they did, which was 75 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: clearly pollute and create the Russia Russia collusion narrative, and 76 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: a criminal finding of wrongdoing. I wanted Susman to be 77 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: found guilty because it would then be impossible for the 78 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton campaign to argue that they did anything of 79 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: a criminal nature or even wrong wrong nature. What's going 80 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: to immediately happen, I think Buck is this is going 81 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: to be taken as vindication from many that Hillary's campaign 82 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: did nothing wrong in anybody who argued otherwise, that Trump 83 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: when he said that they were spying and all these things. 84 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: I think the guilty verdict will receive far more attention 85 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: than any of the facts that came out during the case. 86 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: It will be amusing Clay to watch as all of 87 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: a sudden the media, Oh look, CNN breaking news right, 88 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, and for a lot of their audiences, 89 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: for the CNN audience, for the MSNBC audience, I think 90 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna be like sile Wait, there was a there 91 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: was a Susman trial. Hillary Clinton's lawyer was facing federal 92 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: criminal charges for line. They don't even New York Times 93 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: readers are going to be fascinated to read about this 94 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: for the first time tomorrow. That's one piece of this. 95 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: But going back to the beginning of the Russia collusion, 96 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: the giant lie, I mean, honestly, the whole thing is 97 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: such was such an obvious fabrication to anybody who was 98 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: being intellectually honest about this from the start play I 99 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: mean I worked in a federal bureaucracy at the CIA 100 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: and then spend some time with the Intelligence Division of 101 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: the NYPD, And one thing I can tell you is 102 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: that so much of government power, within the bureaucracy, within 103 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: the federal agencies is based upon good faith that the 104 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: people that are doing the investigating, the people that are 105 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: doing the subpoenaing, the people that are pulling your bank records, 106 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: pulling your phone records, they're doing so in good faith. 107 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: And part of good faith is what you believe to 108 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: be credible. Right, So if somebody, if somebody comes in, 109 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: let's say, and there, you know, if they say, I 110 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: want to be an FBI informant and I'm going to 111 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: tell you where the number two in al Qaeda is 112 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: and he's totally not credible, and you say, you know what, fine, 113 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you that justice for rewards. We're gonna 114 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: give you the ten million dollars or whatever the bounty is. 115 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: That person will be fired because that person's being an idiot. Right, 116 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: you need to do verification. There has to be good 117 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: faith in that process. And with the Hillary Clinton Russia 118 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: collusion campaign situation, my concern from the very beginning is 119 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: that whether it's Komy or Sussman or Rol Sussman was 120 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: a lawyer in private. But you know what I mean, 121 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: whether it was Komy or Lisa Page or Peter Struck 122 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: or any of these individuals, they could always fall back 123 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: on not not our fault. We are so stupid that 124 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: we actually believe this, We really thought this maybe happened, 125 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: even though no person could credibly think. And so with Sussman, 126 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: I think it falls into that category as well of 127 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: how could this have gone? How could he have ever 128 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: believed this? You should have been lying to the FBI 129 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: in his own mind from day one. But there's no 130 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: penalty for stupidity, and the deep State's got a whole 131 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: lot of stupid Yeah, and look to me, this evidence 132 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: also is we talked about this, I think last week 133 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: with Andrew McCarthy, if I'm not mistaken Buck, and he 134 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: was skeptical that we were going to get a conviction, 135 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: and we dove into He kind of called based on yeah, 136 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: based on the jury pool, right, I mean you're talking 137 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: about a jury pool that overwhelmingly believes that Donald Trump 138 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: is Satan and that Hillary Clinton was robbed of the 139 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election that's what the jury pool in Washington, 140 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: DC is going to believe, and so their pre existing 141 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: biases I think factored in here, making it a more 142 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: difficult forum than say having this case in Wyoming or 143 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: less Virginia or someplace with a really high predisposition to 144 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: believe what I think is the truth, which is that 145 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: Hillary's campaign helped to spread Russia collusion. The other thing 146 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: buck from pure evidentiary perspective, I think this is complicated 147 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: for a lot of jurors to understand. And I obviously 148 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: we didn't watch this on a day to day basis 149 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: because we're live on the air. But what you have 150 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: to do is drill this down to make it understandable 151 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: and to me as a lawyer, when Michael Sussman is 152 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: billing Hillary Clinton for his meeting with the FBI, which 153 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: his billing records reflect that he did, it's really hard 154 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: for him to argue that he's not meeting with the 155 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: FBI as a representative of Hillary Clinton's campaign. When he 156 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: sent the text message saying that that essentially he what 157 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: he needed to meet with them, the evidence to me, 158 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: the evidence to me is clear that he lied to 159 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: the FBI, and by the way, This is what almost 160 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: everybody now that his credit, he refused to plea. He 161 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: went on trial and he beat the trial. I'm sure 162 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: he has incredible lawyers, he had a good for him. 163 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: But this is what almost everybody in the Trump ambateure, 164 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: the Trump's scope, the Trump p number got in trouble 165 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: for not actually Russia collusion, but lying to the FBI 166 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: when they were suddenly hauled in and harangued by FBI 167 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: officials about all this different issue and they're just you know, panicked, right. 168 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: Uh so, so this is intriguing in some ways. Uh 169 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: just just FYI from a walking through the legality perspective, 170 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: first of all, I think you're upping the any a 171 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: little bit here with ambateur and pannumbra, just like tossing 172 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: that in there. Clay. Clay was dusting off some of 173 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: the legal books this weekend. What's crazy is, you know, 174 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: the pannumbra is basically where the right to abortion came 175 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: from in Roe v. Wade, Right like that you have 176 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: and it's always been crazy. That's the phrase, you know. 177 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: Phraseology is uh that there are certain rights that are 178 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: then encapsulated within the pannumbra of other rights, which is 179 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: that right to privacy and everything else. It was intellectual 180 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: uh nonsense. But yes, maybe that's the expansive this. But 181 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: this is in the same way there are so many 182 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: people that got in trouble for Russia collusion, not for 183 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: actual Russia collusion at all, but for the FBI questioning 184 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: them about Russia collusion. This is why Saul started with 185 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: Susman and Hillary Clinton's campaign being involved in helping to 186 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: create Yeah, this is why from the very beginning some 187 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: of us were saying, I mean, I can speak for 188 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: myself on this issue because now Clay, we're going back 189 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: what five or six years now saying anyone who thinks, oh, 190 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: just wait, there's going to be justice, how is there 191 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: going to be justice when the process was the punishment. 192 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: This was used the special Counsel, the Mueller probe investigation, 193 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, that was used as 194 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: the primary political weapon against the Trump administration to slow 195 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: down that White House, to put the fear of God 196 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: into or the fear of Muller I suppose into all 197 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: the people in that White House working for it, made 198 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: it harder for them to get legal representation, made it 199 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: harder for them to get people to come work for 200 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: Trump for all four years. I know. I mean, you 201 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: had friends in the White House. I knew people well 202 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: in that White House. So they were successful in the 203 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: dirty trick. And now what you find out is that 204 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: the ultimate failsafe that the deep state has is we're 205 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: you know, FBI guys for example, like Peter Struck, I'm 206 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: so stupid. I actually believe that Donald Trump did this 207 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: and that we just couldn't prove it. That was their failsafe. 208 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: And then for anybody on the private practice side of this, 209 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: a lawyer like Sussman or in the private sector, it is, oh, 210 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: I can just count on a DC jury to bail 211 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: me out, because the actual chance that you have Democrats 212 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: who believe Russia collusion on a DC jury is over 213 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: ninety five percent based on the population. Those are the 214 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: actual numbers based on the political affiliation of people in DC. 215 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: So how are you going to get justice in this case? 216 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: And people are saying, oh, just wait for it. We 217 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: waited for it, and now we're seeing it. Well again, 218 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: I would say the under oath testimony is at least helpful. 219 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't covered very much, but now all of a sudden, 220 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: the not guilty verdict is going to be covered as 221 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: a clarion call, and it also makes it more difficult. 222 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the impact again. This news just breaking 223 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: as we're coming on here. It also impacts potentially, Look, 224 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,599 Speaker 1: you got a term limit issue, and you've also that 225 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: term limit but a statute of limitations issue in terms 226 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: of when you're able to charge people for criminal violations. 227 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: Given the fact, as you mentioned, bucket's been five years 228 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: since a lot of this stuff happened back in the 229 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen presidential campaign. And also when you lose a case, 230 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: it makes it more difficult for you to feel like 231 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: you should charge someone else. Not to mention, Sussman himself 232 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: could have ended up under fire potentially if he had 233 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: if he had lost this case, and maybe he rolls 234 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: over on somebody else in the grand scheme of things 235 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: associated with that. In the meantime, we'll continue to break 236 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: this down for you. So many stories that are out there, 237 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: but everybody's trying to save money. How much importance could 238 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: saving nine hundred dollars a year mean for you on 239 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: your cell phone bill fifty or sixty dollars a month 240 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: or more just by switching from AT and T, Verizon 241 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: or t Mobile. 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As 259 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: we finished off the show Friday, wanted to thank all 260 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: of you and your family these who have given the 261 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: ultimate sacrifice to enable us to have the freedoms that 262 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: many of us unfortunately take for granted, every single day, Buck, 263 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: we were talking about as we went to break again 264 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: breaking news just as we came on the fact that 265 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: Michael Sussman, hillary Clinton's campaign lawyer, has been found not 266 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: guilty of lying to the FBI. This means, I believe, Buck, 267 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: when you really look at the larger picture, there will 268 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: be essentially no one ever found guilty of collusion or 269 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: conspiracy of a significant nature with Russia. Obviously in the 270 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: Trump campaign, and almost everybody was charged ultimately for lying 271 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: to the FBI and for starting the collusion rumor and 272 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: having years of investigations, no one inside of Hillary Clinton's 273 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: campaign is going to suffer any consequences either. In fact, 274 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: many of those people on Hillary's campaign are now working 275 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: in a Joe Biden white House, and Michael Sussman has 276 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: managed to avoid conviction here for a criminal charge of 277 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: lying to the FBI, despite the fact that I believe 278 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: he lied to the FBI. Now, this is a hard 279 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: case sometimes to prove, which is why I'm sure he 280 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: rolled the dice, proving knowledge of what of who he 281 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: was representing, proving direct lying to the FBI based on 282 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: this meeting. When my understanding is Buck, they're not great 283 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: contemporaneous records of exactly what was said. Unfortunately, this initial 284 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: Tip meeting Buck was not recorded, meaning there's no audio 285 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: or video of of that conversation that all of us 286 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: could just watch and it would be almost impossible to 287 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: prove or disprove. It would just be the tape itself 288 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: would prove whether or not he was lying. Text messages 289 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: and legal records seemed to suggest that he was clearly 290 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: working for the Hillary Clinton campaign. What exactly he said 291 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: in that meeting. I think that's the challenge of proving 292 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: it beyond a reasonable doubt exactly what he said. If 293 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: this were a civil case, I think it's more likely 294 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: than not, But beyond a reasonable doubt a criminal statute's 295 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: a high standard. So think though, of all the times 296 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: in the Muller probe, people were charged and in some 297 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: cases pleaded for very minor for what I would argue 298 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: exactly are are trivial and actually the kind of lies 299 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: not every lie, right, if you lie to the FBI, 300 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: but what you had breakfast in the morning, because you 301 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: know whatever, If it's not material to an investigation, they're 302 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: not supposed to charge that. But any lie that was 303 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: told in the Russia collusion investigation by Muller any mistruth. 304 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean, look what they did to Roger. Look at 305 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: the treatment Roger Stone got, yeah, of course, and look 306 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: at the treatment that Sussman gets Stone. His defense was, 307 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,239 Speaker 1: I was kidding. It was a joke in DM like 308 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: no one actually thinks this. They didn't care. They him up, 309 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: send dozens of guys with long guns to his house, yes, 310 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: and tipped off. I think it was c or whoever. 311 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: He has to sit there, watch and record it live 312 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: when he was arrested. 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Across 330 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: the country tonight, communities organizing giveaways to help desperate families 331 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: in need of baby formula. I have no way. For 332 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: the last two weeks, an estimated seventy percent of the 333 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: nation's baby formula supplies now out of stock. In Dearborn, Michigan, 334 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: on Friday, cars lined up for nearly a mile waiting 335 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: for formula volunteers struggling to meet the demand as some 336 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: in line were turned away empty handed. Biden's baby formula shortage. 337 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. This is the kind 338 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: of thing that you would expect a government, particularly one 339 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: full of activists who really want to control every aspect 340 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: of your life. One thing that gotta do, we say, oh, 341 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: they need to make sure the trains run on time. 342 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: This is even more important than the trains running on time. 343 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: This is making sure there's baby formula on the shelves. 344 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: Government had a hand in creating the shortage. The FDA, 345 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: which is the federal regulatory authority, was asleep at the wheel, 346 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: took too long, didn't coordinate, didn't figure this out. And 347 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: people have figured out, as in the American people, that 348 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: the Biden regime was slow on this one. To put 349 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: it mildly, they went from it's not our problem, there's 350 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: nothing that we need to be doing here too. Oh gosh, 351 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: we're so sorry. We'll go get military planes full of 352 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: baby formula because we realize parents are rightly furious about this. 353 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: And it just keeps on piling up. The Biden administration 354 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: hasn't had anything to tout, hasn't had any good news. 355 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: I don't know this year, you could probably argue it's oh, 356 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: it's basically June. We're halfway through year or two of 357 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: the Biden presidency, and it's a mess. And clay that 358 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: brings me to this NBC NBC report, NBC News. I 359 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: remember NBC News. You know, it's one second they're telling 360 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: you a little politics, and then it's you know, great 361 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: summer kale salads, and it's oh, look at this video 362 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: of a baby seal that we found somewhere. I mean, 363 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: it's you know, really, it's not for in depth news 364 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: consumers to put it mildly, it's kind of just the 365 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: casual news consumer even and of course Democrat even NBC 366 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: is saying we got a problem here. They had this 367 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: piece where they said, and this is a quote, Clay, 368 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: I love us. Any assessment of Biden's performance needs to 369 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: take into account the epic challenges he faced from the start. 370 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: Oh maybe we should throw a blankie over Biden's knees 371 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: and bring him a sippy cup, because it's so hard 372 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: to be president. Clay, this is not what we were promised, 373 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: meaning we the American people, And it is exactly what 374 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: you and me and this audience said and knew what's 375 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: going to happen, which is you put a bunch of 376 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: incompetent zealots in charge who don't even seem to understand 377 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: the cause of inflation, don't even seem to understand the 378 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: downsides of an open border, are effectively economic illiterates, and 379 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: don't even get me started on the Vice President, the 380 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: TSAR for the border, the tsar for baby formula. Whatever, 381 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: it's a mess. And they realize it's a mess because 382 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: Biden's upset because his numbers Clay are worse than Trump's. Yeah, 383 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: that's a big part of the story. Another big part 384 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: of the story is that Biden was furious at his 385 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: own White House for allowing the baby formula shortage to emerge, right, 386 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: And I think this is one of those situations where 387 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: it's hard, you know this buck, when you are inside 388 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: of the White House, it's hard to know what's going 389 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: on in the larger country. And so that's one where 390 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: Biden can justifiably be furious at his own administration because 391 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: unless he has family members who are coming to lunch 392 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: and dinner in the White House and saying, hey, you know, 393 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: we're having trouble going out and finding baby formula, there's 394 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: just so much noise out there on a day to 395 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: day basis, it's hard for him to be certainly of 396 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: all people involved and aware of what's going on. But 397 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: I thought that was one of the most interesting parts 398 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: of that NBC expose, whatever you want to call it, 399 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: inside of the Biden White House was Biden's furious at 400 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: his own administration. And then the other thing I thought 401 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: was interesting is there now reports that ron Klain is 402 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: on his way out, that Biden is going to have 403 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: to have a new chief of staff, that they're basically 404 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: just throwing up their hands and saying, we have no 405 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: idea what to do at this point, and that entire 406 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: article just furthered what I think the national consensus is 407 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: of an administration that is completely lost. I also liked 408 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: the article is pretty devastating, folks. Ye, It's supposed to 409 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: be an explanation, and it takes if just the notion 410 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: of Biden had all these challenges when he came into office. 411 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: They're trying to message and massage the message, if you will, 412 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: because the numbers are terrible. Biden is also upset. This 413 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: was I thought this was really interesting. He saw a 414 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: polling that indicated he had dropped among suburban women, which 415 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: were trying to talk to every day Buck we talk 416 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: about him the moms out there and the impact that 417 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna have. But yeah, he was furious 418 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: that he's dropping in By the way, he claims he 419 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: never looks at polls, So this story would obviously directly 420 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: contradict how much he's paying attention to. We gotta make 421 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck mom Brigade t shirts and time for 422 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: this election, because the mom Brigade is out in force. Folks. 423 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: They're they're upset about the lockdowns of schools that Democrats push. 424 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: They're upset about looking at those gas prices the pump. 425 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: You know, a lot a lot of households, maybe the 426 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: mom is the is a co owner, maybe she's the 427 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: sole earner, but in a lot of houses, he's also 428 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: just in charge of making the budget work one or another. 429 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: She's driving the kids around a lot of time, pumping 430 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: the gas or set you know, the minivan mom brigade 431 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: out there, I mean, taking the kids to camps, taking 432 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: the kids to school, being obligated and responsible for all 433 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: these trips all over a city. And here's what Joe 434 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 1: Biden's taken note of the fact that suburban women are 435 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: turning on him, which is a nightmare. I mean, the 436 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: only thing scarier for Democrats than that is losses in 437 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: the African American community politically, right, if they start seeing 438 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: that drop down dramatically, then they know it's all over 439 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: for them. But suburban women are very high on their 440 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: list of key constituencies here. And it's interesting, Clay, because 441 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: the suburban moan are turning on Biden. Biden is turning 442 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: on his own staff. He's upset that they are having 443 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: to do clean up on Aisle Biden every five minutes. 444 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: So his claim is apparently to his staff, stop contradicting 445 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: what I say. I'm amtrak Joe, and I'm And meanwhile, 446 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: some of us are sitting here, no, no, Joe. They're 447 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: trying to prevent like a nukele your war from breaking 448 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: out because you say something stupid about Russia or whatever. 449 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: And for the moms, they're looking at this all clan 450 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: and they're saying, what am I getting in this bargain 451 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: of the Biden regime? Price of gas, price of food 452 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: way up, harder to pay my mortgage. And the Democrats 453 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: and their media are all in on drag Queen Story 454 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: Hour for my eight year old at the local library. 455 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: It's not working out so well for them. Yeah. And 456 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: by the way, and reading that NBC article, Buck, I 457 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: can't believe that it's not getting more attention. You are 458 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: the president of the United States. Is he not signing 459 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: off on the official statements that are being made by 460 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: the White House because it specifically talks about that speech 461 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: where he says, go get him at the end, or sorry, 462 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: we're not the state of the Union, but he said 463 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: something like my god, he's got to go, or some 464 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: whatever he's said at the end of the speech about 465 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: Putin and the Ukraine situation. The White House puts out 466 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: a statement saying, you know, clut trying to clean up 467 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: what he has said multiple times they done. This is 468 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: Biden so out of commission in the White House that 469 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: they are putting out statements from the White House that 470 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: he's not even seen. Because think about how I think 471 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: the answer. Think about it. If you were president or 472 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: if I were president, Heck Buck, if the Clay and 473 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: Buck Show put out an official statement that neither you 474 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: nor I saw regarding something that we said, imagine how 475 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: furious we would be on this radio show. Let's pretend 476 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: that Clay and Buck has a spokesperson. You or I 477 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: say something on the show, and then later on there's 478 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: a media quote from Clay and Buck and we're like, 479 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: did you did you see that quote? Did you sign 480 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: off on that? The fact that Biden is even able 481 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: to have a White House that disrespects him to such 482 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: a degree that he's not even signing off on official 483 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: White House statements about his own comments. Is I mean, 484 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: it raises the question of who the actual president is. 485 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: I think there's also probably a scramble going on behind 486 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: the scenes right now to get the Democrat playbook here 487 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: is going to be in terms of personnel, white House staffing, 488 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: who can we bring in from the Obama administration to 489 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: take senior roles. Now, there's already talk of Susan Rice 490 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: possibly being chief of staff. They're gonna try and it's 491 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: gonna be a black woman, and she's just cut to 492 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: the noise. It's gonna be a black woman buck because 493 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is going to say this is the first 494 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: black woman to ever be a chief of staff and 495 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: that identity politics arena is the only thing he knows 496 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: how to do at this point. And here's the problem 497 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: with just going back to the Obama administration personnel. Shall 498 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: we say your point about the identity politics, that's the 499 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: only thing he's this is the only victories a wide eye. 500 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: Twain's a white guy. He's stepping down. I'm gonna put 501 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: the first ever black woman in is the chief of staff. 502 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: This is a huge deal. Like he doesn't have any 503 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: regard for talent. It's all about optics. But I'm not 504 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: sure at this stage that some of the bigger names, 505 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if some of the some 506 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: of the former Obama personnel, Obama administration personnel who have 507 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: now you know, gotten all happy with the book deals 508 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: and the contributorships and sitting on the boards of companies 509 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: you want to go join think, I mean, you're gonna 510 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: join this after a mid term wipeout, You're gonna try 511 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: to join this administration. I gotta say that's that's gonna 512 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: be tough duty. Joy the administration of the least popular 513 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: president in living memory, who's in clear cognitive decline and 514 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: now shouting about how his staff is having to clean 515 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: up his mess because he'd rather just be a mess. 516 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: That's a that's a tough job post. It's like reverse 517 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: Titanic Buck. It's going from the lifeboat and deciding to 518 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 1: get on the Titanic. Like you're in the ocean on 519 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: the lifeboat. Everything's great, and you're like, hey, look at 520 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: that big Titanic that's already sinking. Do you want to 521 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: try to get on the sinking ship and try to 522 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: make it sink slower, because that's a Remember, you're probably 523 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: gonna have a House that is Republican and the Democrats 524 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: are gonna lose control there, and you probably are gonna 525 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: lose the Senate too. In fact, when we come back, 526 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: buck new number that are out state by state approval ratings. 527 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to send you this link. I'm not even 528 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 1: sure if you've seen it. Oh yeah, I've seen it. 529 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 1: As as bad as it is nationwide, it's actually worse 530 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: in the places that are going to be deciding control 531 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: of Congress. You have in sports, is there actually ever 532 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: really a mercy rule? You would know? Is there is that? 533 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: Is that just a thing that we talk about in 534 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: the schoolyard, like has there ever been a distance it 535 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: exists in little league? Okay, exactly we at this coming election, Clay, 536 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: has to be the mercy rule invocation election where Democrats 537 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: lose so badly that they're going to claim that we've 538 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,479 Speaker 1: got college kids playing on the little league. Look at 539 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: you with all the sports analysis, right sports? Yes, I 540 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: like the sports. We'll come back here in a second, folks. 541 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: We got so much more to talk to you. About 542 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: eight hundred two two two eight eight two on those 543 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: phone lines. What do you think Sussman verdict in not 544 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: guilty unfortunately, Plus Biden administration and collapse. 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Subscribe to 578 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: CNB twenty four to seven hand it. Never miss a 579 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: minute of Clay and Buck while getting behind the scene 580 00:32:51,640 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: access to special content for members only. Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck, Sexton, 581 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: Joe appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Sivi 582 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: Q's has a brand new poll out just came out. 583 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: Buck approver or disprove of Joe Biden as president new Low. 584 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: I believe this is an all time low for Joe Biden, 585 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: at least all time that I have seen. Thirty five 586 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: percent approval rate, fifty five percent disapproval. The things that 587 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: are interesting the most about this Buck to me at least, 588 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: are he is in so much trouble, meaning Joe Biden 589 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: in the states that are going to potentially be deciding 590 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: this election, in particular the states in twenty twenty four 591 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: that they have to be looking at. Here is the 592 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: approval rating for Joe Biden right now in Arizona, Hello Phoenix, 593 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: We're number one in your market, thirty two percent approval rating. Nevada, Hello, 594 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: Los ve Guess number one there, thirty three percent approval rating. 595 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: And how about Georgia, Buck, where you have got Reverend 596 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: Raphael Warnock trying to hang on against Hershall Walker. We 597 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: talked a lot about this primary. Joe Biden has a 598 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: thirty one percent approval rating. Thirty one percent approval rating 599 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: in Georgia. You talk about Georgia, Arizona. You start to 600 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: look at all these states that are going to decide 601 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, I don't see any way that you 602 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: can elevate Biden to the point where he is competitive, 603 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: but even worse. All these Senate seats, the toss ups, 604 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: This is a unmitigated disaster for Joe Biden that is 605 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: only getting worse. And the data one other data point 606 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: that I wanted to hit you with, what is Joe 607 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: Biden's approval rating for independent voters? Buck twenty three percent 608 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: approval for independent voters right now? Even women talking about 609 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: losing space with suburban women, women are usually a strength 610 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: of the Democrat party forty percent approval, forty eight percent 611 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: disapproval for and men thirty percent approval. Biden's losing on 612 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: every front right now. If you look at the Cook 613 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: Political Report, there are there are congressional seats where Biden 614 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: one by double digits upwards of sometimes fifteen, maybe even 615 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: maybe even seventeen eighteen points in danger of losing this 616 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: time around, which is a huge swing, right. I mean 617 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: when you start when you're talking about a district that 618 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: Biden one by fifteen points, by almost twenty points, that 619 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: that could go in the other direction. But you look 620 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: at it and you see that there's also about a 621 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: seventy I think it's three quarters of the country thinks 622 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: we're on the wrong track. Now, obviously that includes a 623 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: whole lot of Democrats, but for a fair number of 624 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: those Democrats, it's it's not Biden's fault. It's a really 625 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: hard job. The Republicans are really mean, they stand in 626 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: the way, and we all know that's just self justifying nonsense, right, 627 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: but at least at least they're aware of the fact 628 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: this is not the way things are supposed to be going. 629 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: We're not supposed to have record high homicides in all 630 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: basically of the top twenty five American cities by population. 631 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: We're not supposed to have the worst inflation in forty years. 632 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: We're not supposed to have seventy percent of baby formula 633 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: out of stock, you know, a war raging in Europe. 634 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: Still that Biden says things that makes everyone go, oh 635 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: my gosh, you don't hit the deck. What is he doing? 636 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: This is not good, clay, even the Democrats, No, it's 637 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: not good. And by the way, even for black voters 638 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: in this sixty five percent approval. You may say, well, 639 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 1: that's high. Obama was ninety five, right, Like, basically, every 640 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: black voter was going to have Obama's back no matter what. 641 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: When a Democrat president is down to sixty five percent 642 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: approval in black voters. I mean, if twenty percent of 643 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: black voters voted Republican, the Democrat Party collapses. It doesn't work. 644 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: And so these numbers have to be setting off alarm belt, 645 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: which is why the big discussion not only is about 646 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 1: what's going to happen in the midterms, it's really buck 647 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: about when will Joe Biden announce whether he's going to 648 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: run for reelection. And I'm laughing because I can't imagine 649 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: a weaker incumbent in any of our lives than what 650 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is likely to be facing if he decides 651 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: to run. Only the mercy rule is acceptable, Clay, the 652 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: mercy rule. I want kids in the dugout crying on 653 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: the Democrat side sleeve. Travis and Buck Sexton on the 654 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: front lines of truth