1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Browning for Pettis flackdown doesn't touchdown, Washington heats it here 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: and take time to see he's still on the steed. Touchdown. 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: D Tennis Love has finally has a crazy by the 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: first time Love Sta right rushing driving touchdown. And now 5 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's 6 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: up Everybody Walking to Move the Sticks podcast presented by 7 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: Castro Alleged, d J Bucky Here live from the Well. 8 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: I guess it's live for us. It's live for us, 9 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: but it's alive in this room. We're here at the 10 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: PAC twelve media Day. How you doing, Buck, I'm good, 11 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm good. It's exciting time. It's exciting time a year 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: to be able to talk to the coaches and some 13 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: of the notable players that would continue to talk about 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 1: all season. Yeah, I'm gonna get a chance to uh 15 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: play for you some of the conversations we've had here, 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: A real fascinating conversation with Mike Leach, head coach of 17 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: Washington State. Will lead off with that when we got 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: several other interviews I think you'll enjoy here from PACK 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: twelve media day. But before we get to the college game, 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: Buck some some big news came out on the NFL front. 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: Of course, right after we finished taping a podcast, as 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: is always the case, Uh, you have a big contract 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: gets signed here Todd Gurley. A lot of people thought 24 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: maybe it's Aaron Donald that's next in line, but it's 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: actually Todd Gurley who gets the big payday there for 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams, much to the delight I would 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: say of Levan Bell, Levan Bill and David Johnson should 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: be excited because I think Ty Gurley sets the bar 29 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: for what I call these hybrid running backs, these big 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: backs that are RB ones and wide receiver two's. Their 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: ability to make plays um not only as runners but 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: as receivers kind of changes the game. And now Todd 33 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: Gurley's deal has changed their pay skill. So when you're 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: Levyan Bill who's playing on a franchise to Ago fourteen 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: and a half million, you have David Johnson, who is 36 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: in the last year of his deal, you now know 37 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: where the bar has been raised. Fifteen million annually. You 38 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: talk about four years, sixty million dollar extension forty five 39 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: million and guaranteed that pushs you right at fifteen million 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: per year. If you're running back, that has a special 41 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: set of skills that is now the new kind of 42 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: market for where those guys get paid. Remember forever we 43 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: were talking about how you designate these guys and with 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: defense outside linebackers, defensive vents and they get to go 45 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: back through and count the plays or they had their 46 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: hand on the ground because they want to be paid 47 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: his defensive ends and not outside linebackers. It feels like 48 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: now offensively, if you're an agent on one of these guys, 49 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: you say, this is a weapon. This is not a 50 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: running back, some weapons, elite offensive weapon. That's kind of 51 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: what you have to go with because you're not getting 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: paid as somebody that carries the football. You're getting carried 53 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: as somebody that makes plays in the passing game as 54 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: well as the running game. And I think that's what 55 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: we saw there with Todd Gurley. I don't I don't 56 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: only set the market for running backs. I think he 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: set the market for, like you said, those combination hybrid players. Yeah, 58 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: and I think I think they're when when we talk 59 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: about those combination hybrid players, I think there are a 60 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: couple of things that they have to be able to do. 61 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: I think they have to be big enough to be 62 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: every down players, meaning they have three down backs who 63 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: have the size, physicality, and toughness to be grinders, but 64 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: they also have the ability to be special players in 65 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: the passing game. Ty Gurley is different than Levy and 66 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: Bill in terms of ty Gurley catches most of his 67 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: balls right out the backfield. Leve Bill is a guy 68 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: that is displays plays outside. I've been told in Pittsburgh 69 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: he meets in the wide receiver meeting room. Sometimes he 70 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: has to know X, H and F and all those 71 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: different positions. So there are a lot of different things 72 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: that you have to be able to do. But I 73 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: think for a handful of guys they will be able 74 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: to fall into that Ty Gurley category as a big 75 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: hyperd Now it's it's a really interesting point, and I 76 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: think that we'll see that number now get shopped with 77 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: all these other deals as they come up. Here Buck 78 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: one thing that I want to get to before we 79 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: get to these these interviews here at the media day, 80 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: the Aaron Donald stuff. I don't know why this bothers 81 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: me so much, but there's so many people that are 82 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: crushing the rams for saying, why don't Aaron Donald here's 83 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: the last one left? They put all these these little 84 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: uh gips out there with him looking around, and he's 85 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: the last one in the room, and why aren't they 86 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: taking care of him. He's the best player on their team, 87 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, the best defensive player in the league, and 88 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: that here the Rams just they're screwing him over and 89 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: not paying him. I'm sitting here going, we have no 90 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: idea what they're asking for none. So there has to 91 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: be a mark somewhere. It's easy for us all to 92 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: spend somebody else's money. It's another thing to say you've 93 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: got a jugglo sary cap. I don't know is he 94 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: asked for forty million a year. I don't know what 95 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: he's asking. If I see what he's asking, well here's 96 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: what I would say that The thing is that maybe 97 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: to hold up in Aaron Donald deal. Just up the 98 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: road in Oakland is another guy who was a defensive 99 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: Player of the Year, Khalil Mack. Maybe, just maybe Aaron 100 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: Donald is waiting for Khalil Mack to get his deal 101 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: done so he can make sure that he gets a 102 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: couple more coins over Khalil Mack. And so but there's 103 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: so much we don't know, Like I just don't know 104 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: how you go hard on the team for not getting 105 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: it done when we don't know what's going on, right 106 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: and they've said multiple times we wanted to be here. 107 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: We're going to reward him. We've saved money for him 108 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: to get paid. It's just a matter of waiting for 109 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: the deal to get done. I think they have the 110 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: ability to do it, and I think if you really 111 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: look at the two deals that they recently did, Brandon 112 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: Cooks Anti Gurley signed extensions. There's not a lot of 113 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: new money necessarily in those deals. Those deals kind of 114 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: take place, Like for Todd Gurley in two years, that's 115 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: when it kind of kicks in, so they have it 116 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: for the next six years. Same thing for Brandon guarantees. Yeah, 117 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: so they got the guarantees in there. They got that. 118 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: So there's ways to creatively manipulate the salary cap to 119 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: leave enough money for Aaron Donald. And also thinking about this, 120 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: all the new guys that they're talking about, I won't 121 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: even call the dream team because that's kind. But when 122 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: you have Marcus Peters two years left, they may not 123 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: even resign him a key to leave one year term 124 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: and Domin can sue one term. All that money is 125 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: right now, they can wipe those from the books next 126 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: year and have a clean slate. When it comes to 127 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, I think people have to really understand what 128 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: he's doing and be patient. And as long as your 129 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, your quarterback is playing on his rookie deal, 130 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: you canna do whatever he wants to with the money. 131 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: And I think they're trying to go all in as 132 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: long as Golf is on his rookie deal, because once 133 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: you pay him, the composition of your team has to change, 134 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: no question. And I think some people assume that it's 135 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: a line that forms, that there's a contract line, and 136 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you put your most important person 137 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: at the at the front of the contract line, and 138 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: you have no discussions with anybody else who might be 139 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: in need of a new contract until that one gets done. 140 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: It's not how it works. You've got conversations going with 141 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: multiple agents, with multiple players, and you just kind of 142 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: you put the You put the bait on the hook, 143 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: and these other players took took it. They took the bait, 144 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: and so they got done. It doesn't mean they're not 145 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: efforting or trying to get something done with Aaron Donald. 146 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: And I am optimistic that Eventually they'll work this thing 147 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: out and you might hit on something. Maybe they're just 148 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: waiting to see what happens, and I think and I 149 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: think it might not be the Rams. It might be 150 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and his representatives just waiting to see what 151 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: the landscape kind of plays out. Because the only other 152 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: big fishness out there is Khalil mac. They don't play 153 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: the same position, but they're both regarded as pass rushers. 154 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: So you want to be paid like the top pass 155 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: rushing in football. You want to make sure that you 156 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: understand where the market is before you agree to something 157 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to sell it. I'm sure he's okay 158 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: with with missing little training camp too. I don't think. 159 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: I don't think last year either. All Right, well, there 160 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: you go. There's a little NFL news for you. A 161 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: lot of camps are opened up. Um looking forward to 162 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: uh seeing all these young guys get on the field. 163 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: We saw Josh Allen just signed a few minutes ago, 164 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: so he's gonna be in camp there with Buffalo. I'm 165 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: sure the rest of these players that have yet to 166 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: sign these rookie deals that's coming shortly get a chance 167 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: to see all these guys out there. So looking forward 168 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: to that. Uh. In the meantime, though, we've got a 169 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: little college football for you, a little excitement in this room. 170 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: Buck get kind of bus you pumped up for this 171 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: college football season, and we're gonna give you guys a 172 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: little taste here what we had at Pack twelve media day, 173 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: starting right here with our conversation with Washington State head 174 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: coach and one of the best personalities in the country, 175 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: Mike Leach. We had a great conversation with coach last 176 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: year talking about what you look for in quarterbacks when 177 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: you're when you're recruiting. Coach, I'd love to hit you 178 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: and kind of take that to the next level. Now 179 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: from a scouting standpoint, what about the development so quarterback 180 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: gets on campus with you? Is there a standard development 181 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: plan you have for everybody or is it more catered individually. 182 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: I'd say both, you know, I mean, you're always looking 183 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: for what the guy needs or what you know, what 184 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: will elevating the best, and sometimes somebody's got a weakness 185 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: or something, so you you might really focus on that. 186 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: But overall, I think you know, first of all, you 187 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: get the delivery down as good as you can. And 188 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm not one of those guys that you know, it's 189 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: like you know people that start missing with somebody's swinging 190 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: baseball or their batting stands, and pretty soon you take 191 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: again it's pretty good and make him awful. Um, but 192 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: there's a few things I want, you know, I want 193 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: the ball up and I want it to come off 194 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: the hand click, and I you know, I don't want 195 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: uh any of that delayed reaction stuff. And then you 196 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: try to get the feet right. But and typically problems 197 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: or footwork, so you start out emphasizing that right away. Um, 198 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: and footwork is generally the most importan and thing like 199 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: if you have arrant balls and then um, so you 200 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: get that. Then after that in our case, really it's 201 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: the film. So then you start working on the film 202 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: and as you go through day after day, I mean, 203 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: the scheme is gonna kind of take care of itself, 204 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 1: but um, you want them to see things quickly. I 205 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: mean we're constantly and it's almost redundant if there is 206 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: an outsider probably driving crazy, you know. I mean, they 207 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: you come in, you watch the film and and and 208 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: then you know, you and the quarterback are kind of 209 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: finishing each other sentences. It's like, Okay, what'd you see here, 210 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: Well I saw this, Okay, why did you throw it here? 211 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: It might be a great play, might be great, but 212 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: you just want to want what went through your head. 213 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: So you're trying to organize the mental process of how 214 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: you're arriving at what you're arriving at, making sure that 215 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: you're on the same page and it matches the scheme. 216 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: And then pretty early and I mean real early, Um, 217 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: you know, we'll talk about checks. What would you have 218 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: checked here? Or why did you stay with this play? Okay, 219 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: why did you get out of this play? So that 220 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: they're constantly looking at kind of the leverage and the numbers, uh, 221 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: so they can react to stuff. And then, um, we 222 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: don't you know, we're not a group that scripts like 223 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: when we go against the defense. I mean, if we're 224 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: not getting a look or something, we might or if 225 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: we need a look. But it's not like, okay, we 226 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: have to know what plays you're blitzing on when you blitz, 227 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: I mean we want to learn it from our guys 228 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: rather than out in the streets, you know, and um, 229 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: and so react to it. We want our offense constantly 230 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: developing the ability to react to it, just to follow 231 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: that real quick So the word that stood out to me. 232 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: There were just quickness. You talked about kind of having 233 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: a quick mind. You talk about having a quick delivery, 234 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: and then the footwork, the quick feet. So is that 235 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: really an emphtas even when you're going through the recruiting process, 236 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: you're wanting to figure out can a guide operate quickly? Yeah? 237 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: Can he? Can he make? You know? Does he make 238 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 1: a good solid quick decisions? And and you want the 239 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: whole unit to be quick, so it kind of relies 240 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: on everybody, but uh, the quarterback leads that to you know, 241 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: and thinking about your your scheme. A lot of times 242 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: we're here, coaches talk about you find out what your 243 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: quarterback does really well. You emphasize those things and do 244 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: it over and over again. Are you in that school 245 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: thought where you trying to figure out what your quarterback 246 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: can do really well? Did you kind of tweak your 247 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 1: system to fit his game a little bit? Um? Like, 248 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: there will be plays either I've been plays that have 249 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: been in our package for a long time and you 250 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: know you'll have this quarterbacks say you won't run it 251 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: at all. Uh, I won't name any names. I had 252 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: a couple of quarterbacks with weak arms and um, you know, 253 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: some deep out stuff. All of a sudden you quit 254 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: running that. Then uh, way back. You know, you've got 255 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: a guy like Tim Couch with a real strong arm 256 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: or b. J. Simmons had a real strong arm. Now 257 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: you throw it a lot, you know, and then um oh, 258 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: I have had a couple of guys with just incredible touch. 259 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: Um you know where where the more air they have 260 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: on the ball the better. So you try to get 261 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: them into fades and corners where they can just put 262 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: you know, the big drooping uh and they can just 263 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: drop it right where they want to. You try to 264 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: do that, and then um, but uh yeah, and it 265 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 1: kind of reveals itself because as you're checking, as you 266 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: put it on him to check, you know, pretty quick, 267 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, what are they checking too? And 268 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: then you're saying, and I might prefer this play over 269 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: that play, but you're saying, um, you're saying, well, you know, 270 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 1: screw it. I mean, this guy keeps checking in this 271 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: and and and and they'll keep doing it anyway. And 272 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: then the other thing, if you get on them too much, 273 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's like telling your daughter you 274 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: hate her boyfriend. I mean that much more oh yeah, 275 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: oh yeah. Then then they're always then they're gonna check 276 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: that play just a couple extra times just to let 277 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: you know. So so, I mean, the better thought is 278 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: to embrace that play and feed him situations where he 279 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: can get into it. And it's a good idea. And 280 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: you say, you know that one play, why didn't you 281 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: Why didn't you run that here? You know? And then 282 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: um and uh, you know on the back side of 283 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: that that one play, you like, yeah, if you ran 284 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: that in the back side, boy, that would have been awesome, 285 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: you know. And then uh yeah, so uh but there 286 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: is a certain matter amount of that because with him 287 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: going quick, they'll get up there, they're getting a ribbon. 288 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: There's just stuff that they like. You know, how do 289 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: you go faster? I mean, you guys are already go 290 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: so fast, but you're always trying to improve in every area. 291 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: I would imagine you're still trying to figure out methods 292 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: and ways you can even go faster. You know, we're 293 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: not as fast as some. We've always had that reputation 294 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: because we never changed, like back when nobody was fast. Um, 295 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: we were always uh quick but not hurrying. Uh kind 296 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: of like the Buffalo Bills. Remember yeah, well that was 297 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: kind of our our thing. You know, just just be 298 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: be a fed. Nobody's racing around, but just be a okay, 299 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, no huddle, but you know every by turns 300 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: and looks, oh yeah we're doing that earlier. Oh yeah, 301 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: we're doing you know, and and so so getting up 302 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: there quick and and you know, we can speed it 303 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: up if you know, if if it's like a two 304 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: minute drill. But uh, then we discovered that our drives, 305 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: depending on honestly the offense or the quarterback, are our 306 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: touchdown drives, even if they're a long way, um, tend 307 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: to average somewhere around two minutes and twenty seconds. They 308 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: are already pretty speed up. And but you, of course 309 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: you do have the ability to speed up if you 310 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: want to. The most important thing to speed up as alignment. 311 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: Get the lineman up there. The lineman already know where 312 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna be Get the lineman up there. Love. Um. 313 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: So it's funny because d J brings up the k 314 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: gun thing. I was surprised and amazed when I went 315 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: up to Buffalo how simple the offense was. The offense 316 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: was basically like a high school offense run with Hall 317 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: of Fame players doing the stuff. So there's a trend, 318 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: and I hear more coaches talk about keep it simple 319 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: so your player can play fast. Do you believe in 320 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: kind of keeping things simple so your guys can master 321 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: it and no one and play as fast as they can? See? 322 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no question. Anything that you do ok, because 323 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: you can put all the clever things on the board, 324 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: and some of them will be outright brilliant things. Providing 325 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: everybody's perfect and in a split second they're able to execute. 326 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: You know, uh, you know, the the fifteen important steps 327 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: of running this particular pass route. If you've got fifteen steps, 328 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: you better you got kind about fourteen to those off, 329 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, um, because I mean wherever the point of 330 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: attack is, uh, you're only as good as the slowest, 331 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: dumbest player. And um um you know, I mean it's 332 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: the most important block by the backside receiver. Well, but 333 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: probably not if that guy's not totally on the same page, 334 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: you're probably okay. But you know, if you're running it 335 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: up the middle here, you're you're you're center from your guard. 336 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they're better, they're better not be any hesitation whatsoever, 337 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, And so um, yeah, it's only good as 338 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: good is the um is the guy, you know, the 339 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: worst guy you have at the point of attack, and 340 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: and anything you do that hesitates him diminishes what you're 341 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: trying to accomplish. The last question from me, coach, when 342 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: we're when we're looking at NFL tape, a lot of 343 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: times we use the phrase, we use the phrase where's Waldo? 344 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: So you're looking at the NFL tape and you'll see, Okay, 345 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna find out who that weak point is on 346 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: the defense and they're gonna isolate him repeatedly in space, 347 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: whether it's in coverage or at the point of attack. 348 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: They find that waldo when you're breaking down an opponent. 349 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: Is there is there anything similar to that where you're 350 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: trying to say, Okay, we're gonna this is the dude 351 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna go after here. Yeah, there's some of that, 352 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, like, uh, there's some of that. We we 353 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: tend to do it. Uh, you know, more scheme wise, 354 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: like as in these type of plays give them a 355 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: bad time, and that's because of a wall door two 356 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: in the mix there. Um, you know one thing in 357 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: the NFL and it would be fun to do, is 358 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: you know they get they basically get the photographs or 359 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: the facts is after you apply. Yeah, you can literally 360 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: circle that guy on that you go up target, you 361 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: put a target on him. That got no him right 362 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: there there he is right there. And then and then 363 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 1: and then the guy and the speaker in the headset. 364 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: You'll say, remember that guy right there, No the other one, 365 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: you know. Um, So it's funny that you bring it 366 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: up because everyone is studying somebody, Um NFL guys, And 367 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: now after years kind of poop on in to college game, 368 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: we're not finding more NFL teams still in place from 369 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: the collegiate level. As a college coach, do you look 370 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: at anybody? Are there teams or coordinators or schemes that 371 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: you look at to see if you can add to 372 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: what you already do anybody that's kind of throwing the ball. 373 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: But the fact is, and and uh, well some in 374 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: the NFL flat out and embrace it. But then um, uh, 375 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, the NFL pretends you know that they haven't 376 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: changed this the bologning. I mean, uh, the NFL has 377 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: changed a lot more than college as in the last 378 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: ten years. And and uh, you know, just ask the 379 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: New England Patriots in the Philadelphia Eagles how it works 380 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: because um, um, you know, thousand yards of offense and 381 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: that well I've got I've got filmed from Iowa Wesleyan 382 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: College that looks early similar to the Philadelphia Eagles and 383 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots and um and and now they're 384 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: filmed back when uh they have different coaches and of 385 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: course but um uh it doesn't look anything like that 386 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: Iowa Wesleyan film. I can tell you that right now. Well, 387 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: we've we've used up all our time here. Coach, We 388 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: thank you so much. It's one of our favorite visits 389 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: of the year. I get a chance to talk shop 390 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 1: with you. Wish you the best of luck in the season. Head, well, 391 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate. It's great to see you. Guys. We're joined 392 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: by our good buddy here, Stanford head coach David Shock. Coach. 393 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: How you doing. I'm great, I've been great. I've been 394 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: asking everybody that rolls through here what you get a 395 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: chance to get away from football at all? What's your 396 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: what's your jam? And we are we a lake? Are 397 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: we beach? Are we mountains? What are we doing? You 398 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: guys know I'm a Stanford nerd. That's that's that's just 399 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: who I am uh become a history buff later in 400 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: life here. So, uh, my wife and I took the 401 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: kids to Paris and London. So we took a bike 402 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: trip around Paris, which is just it blows you away. 403 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: And thankfully we decided to come back because we almost stayed. Uh. 404 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: And in London to do the Churchill War rooms. If 405 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: you've seen The Darkest Hour h and dunk Kirk and 406 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: and and to know that the history of the World 407 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: War two, etcetera. To go down there and see they 408 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: had such a sense of history that once once japan 409 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: um was out of the war, they left those rooms 410 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: and sealed them because they knew what they did there 411 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: was historic. So as you watch the movie and you 412 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: go back down these are the actual rooms. You see 413 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: the pinholes and all the maps where all they had, 414 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: all the deals, and all the desks were the way 415 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: that they were back then, and it's just unbelievable. That 416 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: beats going that beats going water skin and nice nicely 417 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: done there. Uh. We're gonna get into uh some some 418 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: of things about the team going forward here, but we're 419 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: trying to piggyback on what we talked about last year. 420 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: Last year we talked about what you look forward you're 421 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: recruiting or evaluating quarterbacks, kind of want to spent it 422 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: forward this year and asking everybody about what you do 423 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: once they get on campus in terms of developing the 424 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: quarterback because that's a huge aspect of this whole deal, 425 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: not just being able to evaluate them, but get them 426 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: on campus and develop them. Is there kind of is 427 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: there a formula you've had that you followed going through 428 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: the process of developing these guys individual Does it change? 429 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: So it's what we've gotten a lot of praise for 430 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: and caught a lot of flak on. And when the 431 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: people that want to give us flax say why is 432 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: your offense so hard? You know, always say freshmen can't 433 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: come in and play. Why is your offense so hard? 434 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: And I said, it's not that the offense is hard. 435 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: Is that we're teaching guys that don't know football how 436 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: to play football. We're teaching them how to solve the 437 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: problems at the position, as opposed to look to the 438 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: sidelines and have me solve it. For we want to 439 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: teach these guys fronts and coverages and blitz schemes and combinations, 440 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: and then at the same time, once they understand the 441 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: defensive saide. Okay, how do we change the protection to 442 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: pick up those blitzes and then take advantage of the 443 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: holes that are left in the zone blitz schemes or 444 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: handle or a manded man routes versus zone routes and 445 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: where your eyes should be. And that takes a long 446 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: time for these guys to learn. In particularly, they don't 447 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: learn it in high school if they're a spread team 448 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: in high school, which God bless anybody that runs a 449 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: spread offense. I don't have any issue with that at all. 450 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: But for us, we we don't. I want our guys 451 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: to have run progressions. I want them to be able 452 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: to read coverage. Doesn't want them to change plays. Uh, 453 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: And now they feel like they can play the game. 454 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: Now there Now it's them against the defensive coordinator, not 455 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: just me against the defensive coordinator. So we teach the 456 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: guys how to play. So for us, we get a 457 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: quarterback in. They gotta learn the fronts, the defensive fronts. 458 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: They gotta learn the blitz schemes and the possibilities. And 459 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: now who are the viable blitzers and if they do come, 460 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: who do we do against them? And now how does 461 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: that fit with coverage. So we're teaching these guys football 462 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: so that they can be proficient at the position. And 463 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: it's not just throwing it. It's but it's seeing and 464 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: anticipating get the ball out of your hands on time, 465 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: and then being accurate and having a strong enough farm 466 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: and all those things. Um, but we we want to 467 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: teach the guys the game before they have to play 468 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: the game. Is there why it's so hard for young 469 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: gout to come in and play right away? For you guys, 470 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: because you are putting so much on them when it 471 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: comes to learning and understanding and the ownership that they 472 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: have of the offense when they're really driving out, No 473 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: question about it, no question about it. It's because it's 474 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: it's it's difficult early on, but by the time they leave, 475 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: these guys have such a breadth of knowledge. And you 476 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: ask all the guys that have interviewed our quarterbacks once 477 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: they've left here at the combine, etcetera. I typicated text 478 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: message that, Hey, just talk to your former quarterback. Oh 479 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 1: my gosh, you know he knows this game so well. 480 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: He's able to drop your entire offense and talk about 481 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: blitz schemes in different plays and progressions. And that's what 482 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: I feel a part of our responsibility is not just 483 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: to have them go out there and be good, but 484 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: then understand what they're doing and why. Um, so they're 485 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: given the best chance to be successful with the next 486 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: level because at the next level, if you can't see 487 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: the boots coming, they're not gonna be around very long. 488 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: Is that is that part of of like install though 489 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: with them, Like do you have it mapped out like 490 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: almost a day to day of Hey, we're gonna, we're 491 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna learn these fronts. You're almost having to 492 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: get your team that's gonna be on the field ready 493 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: to go while you're trying to develop these younger guys along. 494 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: But I mean, is there is there a day by 495 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: day game plan for them in terms of what they're 496 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: studying and how they're growing. So to a certain degree, yes, 497 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: as we start, really it's the first about first four 498 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: days of installation for us um is just great for 499 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback, for the young quarterback, and then beyond that 500 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 1: we keep the rest of the team going. But then 501 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: we started to do in the last few years is 502 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: when we have a young quarterback, the reps that they 503 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: get in practice which we slot in that they still 504 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: get their reps in practice during training camp, but we 505 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: keep them in that in that first four days of installation. Yeah, 506 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: we're not going for bar and beyond that, we're trying 507 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: to get them. You need to learn your A, B, 508 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: C s before we started doing calculus, right, So so 509 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: we say keep them in that so they get comfortable 510 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: and they can feel good about what they're doing. And 511 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: then the next time we really get after him is 512 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: the back in the off season where we reinstall things 513 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: and go back again from the very beginning so that 514 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: they get comfortable and they build a base, and then 515 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: once we feel like they have a base, then we 516 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: can kind of add to them. And that's what k J. 517 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: Costela has been great with. kJ is one of the 518 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: few high school quarterbacks that has been redirecting protection since 519 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: he was a freshman. You know, he understands the schemes, 520 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: He understands how to pick up blitz is. So he 521 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: was probably a little quicker then most guys coming in 522 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: and even as a true freshman, still a lot for him. 523 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: But by the end of his freshman you're getting in 524 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: a spring. He had a really good understanding. And now 525 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: they continue to add building blocks to his his QP acting. 526 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: So that's always a difficult dance because there's always got 527 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: to be a marriage between what you want to do 528 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 1: as a coach and what the quarterbacks comfortable with, right 529 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: and and there's always got to be a marriage there, 530 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: and if if there's ever anything in doubt, we go 531 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: with what he's comfortable with over what we want to 532 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: do as a scheme. And then once you get that, 533 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: then you feel good about that. But then every week 534 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: there's gonna be those game plan plays that you want 535 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: to make sure you get in. So you never want 536 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: to overload him. You want to have an idea early 537 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: on when he becomes a starter, especially if he's young, 538 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: how much can he handle? Like what what is the 539 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: volume that he can handle more so than anybody else 540 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: in the offense. What can he handle so he can 541 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: get us out of bad places and into good plays 542 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: and then make those plays work. Um and Kevin Hogan's 543 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: the best progression for me because once he became a 544 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: starter as a Richard freshman, Um, you know, midway through 545 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: the year, led us to a Rose Bowl without really 546 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: ever going past day four of installation. It's really really simple, 547 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,239 Speaker 1: you know, we just let the guy go out there 548 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: and play fast. And he was so competitive and so athletic, 549 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: and do we just let him play? The next year 550 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: we added a couple of layers without too much, and 551 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: and he would kind of bug us a little bit, 552 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: like I want the Andrew Luck package, Like, dude, you're 553 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: not ready for I'm just telling they're not ready for 554 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: the Angree Luck package. As the Andrew Luck package was 555 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: me saying, hey, go win the game for us and 556 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: tell me how it goes. Right, You're not ready for 557 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: that one yet. But you know, year three was almost 558 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: that nexus year of like gosh, there's so much and 559 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: it's not quite working. That at the end of the 560 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: year he did so well and he came back for 561 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: year five and I was like, dude, you you got 562 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: the Andrew Luck package. Like you tell us what you feel, 563 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: you tell what you're comfortable with, and we can have 564 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: these debates and conversations because you've played so much football. 565 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: Now now we can throw the entire offense on you 566 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: and just tell the guys that listen to you right, 567 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: because you're gonna get us in the right play at 568 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: the right time. And his last year that that Rose 569 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: Bowl year it was just beautiful. And you give him 570 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: a weapon like Christian McCaffrey and it's just fun and 571 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: it's it's like watching a symphony come together. Um. But 572 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: you have to gauge the quarterback for how much he 573 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: cannot just know, but go out and execute and do 574 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: it within the four second time time constraint. How do 575 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: you get better? Like? How how do you go? Who 576 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: are you looking at? Who you study in? What are 577 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: you working on? Um? This program has had tremendous success. 578 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: We always talk about players and you know who are 579 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: they watching and who they studying, how they're gonna get better? 580 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: How about you individually? How do you get better? So 581 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: there's a little phrase that somebody said a long time ago, 582 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: which I truly believe in, and let's never get comfortable. 583 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: You can't you can't be good if you're comfortable. You 584 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: just can't be you can you You'll never reach your potential. 585 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: You'll never be as good as you can be if 586 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: you're comfortable. So at the end of every year, what 587 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: did we do well? What didn't we do well? And 588 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: when you look at what you do well, it's okay, 589 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: we did that well. Can we do it again? With 590 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: the personnel that we have because sometimes, well we did 591 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: that really really well when rist And left, like, Okay, 592 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: we did these things well, but he's the best I've 593 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: ever seen doing this, Like, we may not be able 594 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: to do that again, so so'll be able to say 595 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: we did it, we did it really well, but we 596 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: may have to step back off of that. So to 597 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: be truly almost dispassionate about it and and very methodical 598 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: to say what are we get good at and what 599 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: are we not good at, and then looking at the 600 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: guys coming back and really pushing ourselves to say, Okay, 601 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: can this guy improve and what does he need to 602 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: prove on to be very specific with him so that 603 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: he can grow, and then back away from all that. 604 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: The other point you touched on is for us, not 605 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: a lot of colleges do what we do, so it's 606 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: hard to watch other colleges. Although we found a couple, um, 607 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of college coaches to to commute with, 608 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: UM in particular, Um Carson Wentz's old staff. You know, 609 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: those guys are phenomenal football coaches. So we spend some 610 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: couple of days with those guys. And besides that, for us, 611 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: we're looking at NFL stuff, you know, so when you 612 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: go through and I've studied all the Eagle stuff, I 613 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: studied all of all of the Washington Redskins, which is 614 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: from the Gruden family, which is which is also to 615 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: see outside zone and and all that stuff. Love watching 616 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: all that stuff and see what those guys do. And 617 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: went through all the Rams Rams film this year. Um 618 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: so every year in Kent City chiefs, I pick about 619 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: five or six teams for me personally to go through, 620 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: cut out some ideas, run them by the staff. I 621 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: tell the staff to go go out to and find 622 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 1: what they're looking for when we come back, and then 623 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: we have to have that marriage again of okay, what's 624 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: too much? What do we need to strip down? What 625 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: do we think is a great addition? You know, hey, 626 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: I think I can see Bryce love doing this. I 627 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: think this would be great. Let's put this in. Let's 628 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: see how this goes. So that constant combination of we 629 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: can't just be stagnant and say, well, we were good 630 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: last year, we'll be good this year because a a 631 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: lot of guys coming back, no, no, no, what can 632 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: we do better? What can we be different? And a 633 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: lot of times you go through all this stuff and say, 634 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: you know what, We're not gonna change anything because this 635 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: is still the best thing that we can do. But 636 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: at least you go through the process of making sure 637 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: can we go we can go in the weeds here 638 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: with coach and I don't want to run you too 639 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: long here, But me and Bucky we're just talking about 640 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: this because we both talked to different coaches that have 641 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: been successful at the collegiate level. We're talking about like 642 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: outside zone and and different concepts. And one of the 643 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: things that I heard independently and he heard, and we 644 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: came together and said they said the exact same thing. 645 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: He said, You've got to have a quarterback five I 646 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: was told five times, you gotta have him keep it 647 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: five times running boots, just so that if you do 648 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: that five to eight times in that vicinity, you're gonna 649 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: always hold that that back side and he's gonna have 650 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: to account for it. It made a huge difference in 651 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: their in their run game. Are there any any rules 652 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: or principles like that where you kind of have a 653 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: number of checklist when you come into a game and 654 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: say we need to do this this many times, not necessarily, 655 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: but in the zone scheme and you go back to 656 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: Alex Gibbs. I mean that was that's who they that's 657 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: who told him that. That's that that's a mandate because 658 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: if you don't, you won't make those big plays when 659 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: the guy pulls back and that guy hangs. When you 660 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: saw Jake Plumber all the way back making those huge 661 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: plays down the field because he kept the ball and 662 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: that outside guys like what is he is? He gonna 663 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: keep it and he doesn't boot Then he comes back 664 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: and he drops back and it throws a bomb. So 665 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: that's built in that with us been more of a 666 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: gap scheme world, it's built in more with a play 667 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: action on top of the bootlegs, et cetera. But run 668 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: the ball, run the and now pull it out like 669 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: that's that's got a built in. So if you can 670 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: be efficient running the ball and be physical running the 671 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: ball and you start to watch those safeties, if they 672 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: start creeping up, that's when you try to go back 673 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: over the top. All day here, all day, all right, 674 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: we won't take up any more your time. Day. We 675 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: appreciate it so much. We wish you guys the best 676 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 1: of luck. You got the Revenge Tour to start off 677 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: the season. San Diego State, USC get a chance to 678 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: get that bad taste out of your mouth right now, 679 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: no question. Have to remind our guys that we don't 680 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: have a two game season. There are games actually after that. 681 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: Because they've looked so so much forward to those two games. 682 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: We got ten more to play after that, guys, I'm 683 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: looking forward to Washington. Thank you so much for your time. 684 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: See you guys all right. Joined by Washington head coach 685 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: Chris Peterson. Uh, coach, first of all, thanks for joining us, 686 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: But uh, what's the off season been like for you here? 687 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: You get a chance to get away at all. Yeah, 688 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: we had we had a few weeks off here, um 689 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: in July and uh, you have my favorite time of year. 690 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: That's my favorite part of coaching is the vacation time. 691 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: Are you a late guy or a beach guy? Absolutely? 692 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: All those things something to do with water. Because there's water. 693 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm going towards it, for sure. I love it that. Obviously, 694 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: you guys have a big game coming up. I know 695 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: you'll say they, oh, they're big. But when you go 696 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: into when you have a marquee game like a game 697 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: against Auburn on the docket, how do you kind of 698 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: sprinkle in the enthusiasm when you start talking about Auburn 699 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: when you get into camp. Yeah, I mean, I don't 700 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: really think I need to do that. I mean, our 701 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: guys aren't dumb. I mean, they know the schedule, they've 702 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: seen tape, um, they know what they're up against. And 703 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: so that's just not really our coaching style to be 704 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: all about the other the opponent anyways. It's always about us. 705 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: And certainly when we're this far out before our first game, 706 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: you know how the training camp goes, and we have 707 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: so many things to get done in this training camp 708 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: that we don't really need to talk about our opponents this. 709 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: You know, they know, they know what's what's there. They 710 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: know we're gonna have to play our best football write 711 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: out of game one, which is really hard to do. 712 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: So all those things are already known. It's just about, okay, 713 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: so how do we get our get our fastball going 714 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: as fast as we can. But that it doesn't matter who, 715 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean, our approach as coaches, it doesn't change. It's 716 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: not like, Okay, now we gotta coach harder, Now we 717 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: gotta you know, I mean, and I know everybody knows that, 718 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: but it's like these questions we keep getting like, oh, 719 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,479 Speaker 1: it's well, we are we supposed to try harder. I mean, 720 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: our guys already try really hard. We coach, you know, 721 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: with as much detail as we can. I just think 722 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: we stick to our script in our process. One of 723 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: the things that you know, we've both been fansiers for 724 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: a long time, going back to our scouting days, and 725 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: I was reading a leadership book this summer and one 726 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: of the quotes and they actually thought about you because 727 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: it said enthusiasm is common, endurance is rare. And I 728 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: think about so many of these, you know, college programs, 729 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: and you hear there's a lot of row round all 730 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, But you get to the mental 731 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: toughness and the grind of it. The endurance is lacking 732 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: and something you've always had with your program. There there's 733 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: a toughness of grittiness and rance there. It wasn't all 734 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: just this phony enthusiasm. Yeah, it's about persistence and consistence, 735 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, consistency, it really is. I mean, that's exactly right. 736 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's always interesting the first couple of 737 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: days of you know, training campfall camp, everybody's you know, 738 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: running around. It's like, yeah, okay, let me see this 739 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: seven days from now, and and in fact, we're even 740 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: trying to pull our guys back a little bit these 741 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: first few practices in terms of the amount of reps 742 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: they get. That's a whole another conversation. But just because 743 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: I think guys go to you know for sure, it's 744 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: like you need to. They trained so hard all during summer, 745 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: but it's not football shape, and so we got to 746 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: get him into football shape and then we can really 747 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: go and grind. And so that's worth talking the same language. Yeah, 748 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: the first couple of days, everybody's excited. How about week 749 00:33:54,520 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: three it was like not as much dancing as a coach. Obviously, 750 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of fascination about quarterbacks, and last year 751 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: we talked about recruiting quarterbacks and things that you look for. 752 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: This year, we want to talk about developing a quarterback. Um. 753 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: When you get the quarterback on campus, what's kind of 754 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: the process to get them ready to eventually be a 755 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: start in the face of the program. I mean, there's 756 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: no real secrets, and so much of it is on 757 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: them to just get in that film room, get in 758 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: that meeting room, and really just becoming a chalkboard expert 759 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: to start with you know, I mean, you have no 760 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 1: chance on that field when the bullets start flying unless 761 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: you're like a chalkboard expert when that thing is slowed 762 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: down and you can talk about it, because there's no 763 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: time to talk about anything when the bullets are flying. 764 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: And the nice thing about it is is we have 765 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: some young quarterbacks in there and they have the perfect 766 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: role model on how this is done. And Jake Browning 767 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: because he has never flinched or waivered from one second 768 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: that he arrived on that campus in terms of how 769 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: he prepares if he's if he's not in class, he 770 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: is in that building somewhere doing something for football. Is 771 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: there is there a different way that that you have 772 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: to teach these guys though? In terms of talk about 773 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: the board, a lot of teams now in NFL, it's 774 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: everything is just through the iPad and everything that even 775 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: the install and stuff. They're not putting these guys on 776 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: the board as much. Do you do it differently by 777 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: the by the player or do you just have your 778 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: way of doing it well. We just really have this 779 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: strong belief, Like I'm not an iPad computer fan for 780 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: those type of things. I believe writing crystallized is thinking 781 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: and I think guys have to write things out and 782 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: draw them out, and I think you learned better that way. 783 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: When I'm talking about now you the computers, the IP 784 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 1: I mean those to me are those are yeah, review sessions, 785 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: but to learn you need to get the grease pins 786 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: out and you need to spend hours and then let 787 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: me ask you about this and draw this and you 788 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: chalkboard expert. So it's so funny because you talk about 789 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: the jog board and we found it. Guys are having 790 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: a tougher time when we get them and ask them 791 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: to go on the board. They can't. They can talk 792 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: about their one position, but they can't give me the 793 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: big puzzle. Um, are there things that you can do 794 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: to help your players kind of understand the big picture things. 795 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: That's something that's on the coach to teach them the 796 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: bigger picture, to encourage them to learn more than just 797 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: what their responsibility is. You know, I think the really 798 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: super big time elite players probably understand the bigger picture. 799 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: I think a certain positions you really need to understand 800 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: the bigger positions. And I think there's certain positions that 801 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: you can operate in a very narrow world and still 802 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: be pretty pretty darn good. I think you know, the 803 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: best of the best are gonna want to see it all. 804 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: They want the detail, the minutia, they also want the 805 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: big picture. We talking about leadership, and I think maybe 806 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: even from a responsibility standpoint, the middle closer you get 807 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: to the middle of the field, the more that matters. 808 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: So you're talking about a quarterback of center of middle linebacker? 809 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: Is safety? Being able to know everything that's going on? 810 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: How about notetaking? Coach? You you get a freshman in there. 811 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: Some of these guys they've never taken a note in 812 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: their life, and all of a sudden they get thrown 813 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: into a meeting room and most time I hear about 814 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: guys don't even bring a pen and paper in there. 815 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: How do you instruct guys just on the proper way 816 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: to even take notes. I think that's on us as 817 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: coaches to teach them how to do that and then 818 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: develop the mental toughness too, to just grind and just 819 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: I mean I I learned we could talk about we 820 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: probably don't have time for this, but way back when 821 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: I started my coaching career, I was a gopher for 822 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: the forty niners and it was when they were in 823 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: their Heyday and Joe Montana and Jerry Rice and all 824 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: those guys were there, and Joe Montana, I think it'd 825 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: already been this m v P of the Super Bowl 826 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: a couple of times. And so it's day one a camp. 827 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: Mike holmgrens a coordinator, and I'm watching them take notes 828 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, what is he doing? Does he? Is 829 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: this a new offense? Does he? And it was the 830 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: most ah ha I. You know, it's like, that's what 831 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: the great ones do. It doesn't matter if it's year ten. 832 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: You the best NoteTaker we have in the quarterback room 833 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: with Jake Browning not the freshman like, he knows how 834 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: to do that. And so coaches need to teach that. 835 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: I love. And I heard once somebody said to me 836 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: that if it's if it, if it matters, you'll write 837 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: it down. You're telling me. And we have guys in 838 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: the combat all the time. When you bring him into 839 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: the room and they're going to visit with team after 840 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: team after team, they don't bring a notebook or a 841 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: pill like you could take at least one thing from 842 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: each one of these rooms and you can learn something. 843 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: It blows me away. I just think it has been taught. Yeah, 844 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: and he's got you know, the the really special ones 845 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: figure it out early and then most that they can 846 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: hang around long enough, they're gonna figure it out, or 847 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: they're not gonna hang around long enough. There you go. 848 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you we enjoy our chat with you. Thanks 849 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: so much for giving us. I wish you the best 850 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: of luck this fall. Appreciate you guys all right here 851 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: at USC head coach Clay Helton, coach Haws. It going 852 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: doing great, doing great football. It's great. Best time of year, 853 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: isn't it. Oh, it's fun. I know you're probably ready 854 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: for this this to be over, to get back on 855 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 1: the grass here and get going. But before we get 856 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,959 Speaker 1: to the football offseason, you get a chance to get away. 857 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: And we were talking beach, and we talking lake, we're 858 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: talking mountains. What are we doing. I'll tell you what 859 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: was the most special for me is uh, my to 860 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: my three kids are now in college and to have 861 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: them come back and us be under the same roof 862 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: for a week. We went to the north shore of 863 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 1: Oahu and uh and and uh to have just your 864 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: children around you, all three of them at the same time. 865 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: I forgot how special that is. So I was a 866 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: happy daddy last week and then kissed them all goodbye, 867 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: and that'll start starting work again. Here we go. Now, see, 868 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: you make getting me sigmental because my I have four 869 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: and my oldest is going too junior year and we're 870 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: getting ready to start looking at college and I'm already 871 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: thinking about that. I'm gonna tell you you make sure 872 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: you make the most every second. No kidding, it's going 873 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: too fast here on this football team though, this USC 874 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 1: football team. Uh, last year, you know, man, it's another 875 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 1: year of accomplishments for you. And year two you go 876 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: ahead and get that Pack twelve title that had been 877 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: elusive for a while now for the program. Didn't finish 878 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: up on the note you wanted to there in the 879 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: bowl game, but it still feels like this trend line 880 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: for you. You're making progress every year. Yeah. We we 881 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: want consistency and stability at the highest level and competing 882 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: for championships and to win a Rose Bowl now to 883 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: win a Pack twelve title. We're heading in the right direction. 884 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: And the expectations at SC are always going to be 885 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: what they are and we welcome and it's not a obligation, 886 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: it's an opportunity and we expect to win championships at 887 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: the national level. So that next step for us, and 888 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: then next progression is finding our way into the playoff. 889 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: And uh, we came up short last year. I still 890 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: wake up at three am. Then it's Pullman Washington and 891 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: we're down three. Um. But with so UM, you know 892 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: we're we're very close to that. But we've got a 893 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: kind of a chip on our shoulder to be able 894 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: to get to that level and get USC back to 895 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: a national championship. And UM, guys like Porter and Cam 896 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: that you've had here today, there there'll be the reason 897 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: that that happens. Impressive guys, and and to that to 898 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: that end, this defense depth wise, at least for me 899 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: looking at from the outside, looks like this is probably 900 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: the deepest group you've had. You've been around this program 901 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: for a long time. It's been a long time since 902 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: you guys are two and sometimes three or more deep 903 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: at some of these spots. Yeah, Porter and Camera example 904 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: of what our defense is right know, you know I 905 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: could have brought Marvel Tell here, Baby Marshall here, UM, 906 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: Jane A Harris, John Houston, guys that just have played 907 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: a lot of football force for a long time. Um, 908 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: and they bring great leadership and great talent and great experience, 909 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: and UM, we're gonna need that because when you're anytime 910 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: you're dealing with grooming a young quarterback, UM, you need 911 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: your defense to play well in your offensive line and 912 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: running game to go. UM and that defense early on 913 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: force and that early part of the season, we'll have 914 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: to carry the load. We talked about the quarterback position 915 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: last year. We asked everybody that rolled through here about 916 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: what you're looking for when you're recruiting the quarterback and 917 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: what what traits you're you're trying to identify this year. 918 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: Spending it forward a little bit, it's it's perfect in 919 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: your situation here for the developmental plan when a guy 920 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: gets on campus, not just identifying the town, being able 921 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: to develop it. So do you have kind of just 922 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: from all your years as a quarterback coach, is there 923 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: a plan in place that you've just kind of, you know, 924 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: maneuver through throughout the years and say this is kind 925 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: of how we go through this process. Yeah, you know, 926 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: one we recruit to the position, which is I think 927 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: extremely important. We have a great system in place, UM, 928 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: and we recruit to the position where we know we're 929 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: gonna bring quarterbacks in that can throw the ball. UM. 930 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: Now we've deviated a little bit from the ability from 931 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: you look at these quarterbacks and they're athletic like Sam 932 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: was to being able to create, not to say they're 933 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: running quarterbacks, but their ability to create in the pocket. 934 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: UM is something that we've added to the piece of 935 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: the puzzle. And when I think of a Matt Think 936 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: and I think of a Jack Sears, I think of 937 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: a J. T. Daniels. Their ability to do that is 938 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 1: extremely important. Um, we'll look at you know, who can 939 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: move the offense. That's the biggest thing for me, decision making, timing, accuracy, 940 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: and the ball moves. UM, and the guy they can 941 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: do that the best is gonna walk out there and 942 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: do it in the UNLV game. UM, it's not what 943 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: your age is. None of these guys have any of 944 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 1: the experience, with the exception of Mad and very limited 945 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: in games. So, UM, it's gonna be very important to see, 946 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, who moves the ball the best for our 947 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: offense within our system, and uh, that guy will go. 948 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: One of the biggest challenges the quarterback positions. Anytime you 949 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: you go through some of that adversity, figure out how 950 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna handle that. How do you create in camp 951 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: some adversity for these young guys. Yeah, definitely. You always 952 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,959 Speaker 1: want to see and this is where I thought Sam 953 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 1: was the best I had ever seen at it Um. 954 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: You always want that guy that's like the great picture, 955 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,439 Speaker 1: the great golfer. He makes that one swing and whether 956 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: it was good or bad, he's moved on to the 957 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: next play. And with eighteen to twenty one year olds, 958 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: there's no falseness. They cannot hide the body language whatsoever. Um. 959 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: And if anybody did say it was probably the best 960 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: at it Um. But but that ability to have a 961 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: bad play and move on to the next play rather 962 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: than two three some guys go, go, some guys going 963 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: and tank for a quarter game. But the ability to 964 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: be in a practice and say, you know what, I 965 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: made it a mistake, screw it, I'm gonna learn from 966 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: it and move on to that next play is a 967 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 1: quality that all great quarterbacks have. Um. They're almost fearless, 968 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: they almost have no conscience and um, their ability to 969 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: have that short term memory and move on to the 970 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 1: next play is is very important and and thank goodness, 971 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: you can tell it with young people. All these veterans 972 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: on defense. You've got some some youth on offense and 973 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: got a lot of experience come back on the offensive line, 974 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: but outside a wide receiver. And you guys, every it 975 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: seems like every year, every other year, you're pumping out 976 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: more and more whiteouts. You've got to power forwards out there. 977 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 1: This year with Pittman and Vos, Yeah, definitely. And and 978 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: here's their time. I think of in years past, is 979 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: my ninth here at SC and I think of, oh god, 980 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: what happens with Witty Leaves. There's Market, There's Marquis Martin 981 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 1: Lee Leaves, There's Nelson Agil or Juju Smith, the other bredet. 982 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: And it was great to see Mike and Tyler come 983 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: on at the end of the season. Um and Tyler 984 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 1: really established himself as that number two guy. Has a 985 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 1: chance to be that that premier white out this year. 986 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 1: At Michael Pittman goshamighty, I'm you're talking about a six 987 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: ft four and a half two hundred seventeen pound grown man. 988 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: I noticed him covering kicks when he was like a freshman, 989 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: I think out there because I remember I was just 990 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: watching who is this as a freshman, and I looked 991 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 1: at his name, and I thought, Okay, now he goes 992 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 1: out in the Pact twelve championship games, has a hundred 993 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,720 Speaker 1: and seventy yards worth of catches and then about ninety 994 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: yards in the in the bowl game with a broke thumb, 995 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 1: and just he's an amazing talent and it's his time. 996 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: He's had two really good years of building himself into 997 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: this player, and I'm really excited to see what he 998 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: does in his third year. How about some of these 999 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: young guys give me some of an offense and defense 1000 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: and names. Maybe folks aren't familiar with it, you think 1001 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,399 Speaker 1: jump on the scene. Yeah, I'm really excited, um again 1002 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: to stay in the white out position to see how 1003 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: Velis Jones comes on board. Um too, he's as goodness, 1004 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: he can fly. Um. And then the two rookies have 1005 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 1: been really impressive this summer, and I'm wan Ross st 1006 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: Brown and Devin Williams. I'm looking to see them in 1007 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: camp and what they bring to the table because their 1008 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: physical and mental maturity is unique. I mean, they they 1009 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: they look like they've been on campus for two years already. 1010 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: So I'm looking to see how the speed of the 1011 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: game reacts. But I expect big things from this two 1012 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 1: cues to you stick to follow what petz Old format 1013 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,439 Speaker 1: was with the young kids first for early in camp. 1014 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,399 Speaker 1: Just in there, let's find out what we got. Yeah, 1015 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 1: we've held to that tradition is that they all step 1016 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: in the first string huddle, and you know, we we 1017 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: put Robert Woods out there. He stepped in that first string. 1018 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: He never came out. Dorry Jackson was the same way. 1019 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: I remember coming here the year with Marquis and I 1020 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 1: had heard about this kid from Sarah High School. It 1021 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: was gonna be this great safety. And I was out 1022 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: there for one of the first practices that year. He 1023 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: had full extension, laid out and made a catch. I said, 1024 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing safetly. One of the great stories. 1025 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he he came to us and we all 1026 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: thought he was and man, guys, gonna be a first 1027 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 1: round draft pick defensive back probably what company is still 1028 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: do a bit. But he came to us with a 1029 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: passion about coach, can I just have four days to 1030 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: show you that I'm a wide receiver. It didn't take 1031 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: four days and took four plays. He was just You're like, yeah, 1032 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: you're right, market, marcause you can you can go play 1033 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: that a type one, that's a wrap. How about give 1034 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: me a quick before you run here, give me some 1035 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: a young nighb or two on the defensive side of 1036 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: the boy. Um. You know, we we had the ability 1037 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,879 Speaker 1: to sign UM two young corners that I think are 1038 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: gonna really transition into great players. And and that's some 1039 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 1: Elijah Griffin and Isaac Taylor Stewart that I think are 1040 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,240 Speaker 1: gonna be dynamic. And then uh a really tremendous safety 1041 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 1: in Telenoah, funf in Oregon. Yeah, I'm one of the 1042 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: premier athletes in the country. UM. And and Chase Williams, 1043 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,919 Speaker 1: who can He's the one guy that could play all three. 1044 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: He could play corner safety or Nichols. So that dB 1045 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: young dB group really stood out to me UM in 1046 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: summer workouts. So I look forward to seeing where they're at. 1047 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm excited for you. This is gonna be a fun, 1048 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: fun season here un l V at home and then yeah, 1049 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: look focus on un l V, take care of you 1050 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: and o V. Don't look past you and l V. 1051 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: But then it gets kind of interesting at Stanford at Texas. 1052 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: Not an easy slate there now, it's it's it's a 1053 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: lot of fun, and that's part of being at SC 1054 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 1: We're always gonna play nine, you know, conference games, and 1055 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: then we're gonna play some of the best teams in 1056 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: the country, and Notre Dame in Texas is gonna be 1057 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: right there. The one thing that does allow you to 1058 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: do is when you do your job, there's no question 1059 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: what your resume is and should you be in the playoffs, 1060 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 1: So we we welcome that opportunity. One more question. I 1061 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: was gonna ask this forgot about this. I love this 1062 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: new the new red shirt rule. It's from a from 1063 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,399 Speaker 1: a from a strategy standpoint, you can really think map 1064 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: this thing out a little bit from to get these 1065 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: guys in. It just helps everybody. It helps the development 1066 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 1: of a young player. It helps the health of your 1067 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: football team, especially as you get into November. You can 1068 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: have some injuries that all of a sudden, we're a guy, 1069 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: you know. You know, the college game compared to the 1070 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: NFL game, it's eighty plays in college compared to fifty Yeah, 1071 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: it's compared to fifty three plays in the NFL. Well, 1072 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: those extra plays on on a body, on a cam 1073 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: Smith or a Porter gust and and it's at the 1074 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: end of the game. Where you could have been at 1075 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: having a young kid in there. They're having to continue 1076 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: to go because the injuries just hurts them and so 1077 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: to be able to develop young people. Man, I think 1078 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: it's a great decision by the n c A and 1079 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: one that's gonna help our game. Well, I appreciate you 1080 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 1: taking some time. Man. We wish you and the Trojans 1081 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: the best and look this fall. Appreciate it. Thank you. 1082 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 1: All right here Arizona State head coach her Matters coach, 1083 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm well, how you doing? I'm doing great, 1084 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: holding up, Okay, We're powering through. You know a lot 1085 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: of work. You know this is yeah, But the problem 1086 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: with TV, it's like one minute and you wait ten minutes. 1087 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: You guys really gotta work this week. That's what I enjoy. 1088 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: You guys running around and nervous. So I'm gonna get 1089 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: my wife today was like, you gotta really do really. 1090 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: I told you I had a story for you off 1091 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,720 Speaker 1: off camera here when I when I was out between 1092 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns in the in the Eagles, I came 1093 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: into some stuff at ESPN and I was gonna go. 1094 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 1: They had me going outside the lines, uh bobbly and 1095 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: you you were there and you introduce yourself to me, 1096 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: and I learned at that point in time, which I 1097 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: did not know about your scouting background. Everybody knows about 1098 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: you with your coaching background, but we sat there and 1099 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 1: chopped it up about the scouting background. Don't know people 1100 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: know that side of you coach. While I came into 1101 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: league as a scout and was fortunate enough to be 1102 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,720 Speaker 1: around a great man he's passed away named Whitey Duvall 1103 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,800 Speaker 1: and Mark Hatley, and I cut my teeth and scouting 1104 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 1: and scouted for about two years and got in the 1105 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: car and drove out for a month and a half 1106 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: and went to eight states and went to every school imaginable. 1107 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: And it's kind of ironic because I was chess up 1108 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 1: at Tahoe with coach Peyton and he was working at 1109 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 1: in college at San Diego State and but no, he 1110 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: was in in uh in Illinois, a little small division 1111 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: to school, and I came through there right. So it's 1112 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: I kind of ironic when you think about my scouting tree, 1113 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: I goes. You know, I met a lot of these 1114 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: guys and they were young coaches and coaching. Notre Dame. 1115 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 1: He was that in Illinois at another little school, and 1116 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: he had a running back and I had visited his campus. 1117 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,720 Speaker 1: So it's kind of ronny because you know, football connects 1118 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people in a lot of different ways. 1119 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: Been great, no question. But how about your scouting background? Uh, 1120 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 1: in terms of helping you now in this role, with 1121 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: this job, is that you carry over a little bit 1122 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,879 Speaker 1: in terms of valuating high school kids. I know it's 1123 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 1: a different, different level, it's different, but um, I think 1124 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,800 Speaker 1: what people don't realize is when you get in the 1125 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: world of television, um, and and my world was really simple. 1126 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 1: You have to evaluate college players, whether you like it 1127 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: or not, because that's the life. But the NFL, no question. 1128 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: And so when you flip it and you ask yourself, well, 1129 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: what about college? Well, I visited a lot of college campuses. 1130 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: One as he is Ben. Now, I was fortunate enough 1131 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: to coach Underarmy Game. So I got two kids in 1132 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: high school before some of them became freshman in college. 1133 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: Two of the players are on my team now, Cabriel 1134 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 1: are center and to kill Henry so I had him 1135 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: in the All Star Game at the Under Armed Game. 1136 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: So it all came around, comes around, comes around, all right, 1137 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: Before we get into some more football stuff. I do 1138 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: want to play a little something here because we I 1139 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: went down to Lead eleven get a chance to watch 1140 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: those top college quarterbacks. So your quarterback was there, had 1141 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: a chance to visit with him, and what a what 1142 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 1: a great dude. Uh. And I put him on the 1143 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: spot though, because I said, everybody does kind of a 1144 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,839 Speaker 1: Coach Edwards impression here, So I think we can play 1145 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 1: it for he's got to hear from impression of coach Herm. 1146 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: It's probably be while where I practice walks around, he 1147 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: starts doing this face. It's walking like this. He goes 1148 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: be an hour and a half. I gotta get off 1149 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: my feet out of here. We're going we out here. 1150 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: How would you grade it? I think the players that 1151 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: told them and my rules a two hour rule. I said, 1152 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: my feet hurt after two hours. I said, if we're 1153 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,359 Speaker 1: practiced a long two hours, mean we're practicing way too long. 1154 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: My my son is a freshman in high school. Coach, 1155 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: but they haven't even started fall camp yet. They're out 1156 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 1: there for three and a half hours doing what. That's 1157 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,240 Speaker 1: my question. I think it's a question for any athlete. 1158 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean, and look, I've always done things doing athletes 1159 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 1: ties because I was an athlete. I asked questions to 1160 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: athletes all the time, constantly, preparorial questions, and practice to me, 1161 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: has to be efficient with chaos involved in it because 1162 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 1: the game of football is played very quickly. It's a 1163 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 1: fourth second play and you're going again, okay, how do 1164 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: you function? And those are the practices that to me, 1165 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: really create what's going to happen in the game, Creating 1166 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: chaos and getting them to be able to function within 1167 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: and how coaches in orderly have to script the practice 1168 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 1: and have to be very organized because I owned the 1169 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: whistle and when that clock changes, I blow the whistles, 1170 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: say we're going to period two, guys, and we're going 1171 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 1: and that if that coach is not organized in this 1172 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 1: practice script, he's behind, and then that's the fault of 1173 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: the coach, not the players. So there's pressure on both parties. 1174 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: And I just think when you create that, it's kind 1175 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: of achronic because I can remember the first week when 1176 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 1: we were in spring and we're practicing. The third day 1177 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: the players, I've called him up. He said, coach, we're done, 1178 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, we're done. We want to practice more, 1179 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: so you get no more. It count. It's something about 1180 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,839 Speaker 1: that that they wanted more, but they understood what we're done. Yeah, 1181 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 1: you're done. And I've always told players this as well 1182 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 1: as coaches. Every time we step on the field, that's 1183 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 1: our resume, right in your resume, So you better be 1184 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: able to go. It's not like, well, no, it's your resume. 1185 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: It's it's it's how you pair to play this game 1186 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: of football, because you prepare more than you play play 1187 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,399 Speaker 1: once a week. We went through spring ball. We're gonna 1188 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: practice another month here. All that practice time, if we 1189 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,280 Speaker 1: haven't played the game yet, that will define your resume. 1190 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 1: That's going to define what type of player you are 1191 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 1: individually and collectively what we are as a football team. 1192 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 1: I was reading. I was telling a couple of these 1193 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: coaches here read a book on leadership this summer. I'm 1194 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 1: fascinated by the leadership topic. I know you're you're big 1195 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: into it as well, And this quote just jumped out 1196 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 1: to me. It said, Enthusiasm is common, endurance is rare, 1197 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 1: So being able to maintain that to have to me, 1198 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 1: that's exactly what you're speaking to here. This is a long, 1199 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 1: enduring season. We can row rode up right now, but 1200 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 1: we've gotta be able to last through this whole year. Well, 1201 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, people say, how are you gonna 1202 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: be when you run out of the tunnel. I'm gonna go. 1203 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm really calm. The work's done. There's there's three I 1204 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 1: was football getting ready to be played. I can't waste 1205 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 1: it all running out of tunnel. Now what we're gonna play? 1206 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,320 Speaker 1: What do we do? Right? So? I just think you 1207 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,399 Speaker 1: gotta be careful of that. I mean, I I get 1208 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: emotion of fans, emotionally driven, and I get all that, 1209 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: but I just think there's a process of their spurts 1210 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 1: of emotion. But emotion doesn't win games. Execution does. And 1211 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: when you're under pressure, how do you react? Those are 1212 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: the things that that that complicate the game. Befoot. If 1213 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 1: we could just play with emotion, that'd be great, but 1214 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 1: then the game would last for about five minutes. Everybody 1215 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 1: be tuckled out right that way? How is the how 1216 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: has the communication been with you? Uh, even with the 1217 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, working with those guys In 1218 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 1: terms of dealing with the breakneck pace you're gonna see 1219 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: with some of these teams, I know you got a 1220 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: streamline communication now like never before. You do and and 1221 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, I've I've got a veteran coaching Danny Gonzalez 1222 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 1: from saying, I think it's gonna be marvelous football codes. 1223 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,760 Speaker 1: So this is the rocky long defense and they everywhere 1224 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,280 Speaker 1: and you're you're, you're right, and then what it allows 1225 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 1: you to do? And the more I studied it, um 1226 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: when I was even you know, on television, and I said, 1227 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 1: you know what I like about that defense is this 1228 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,960 Speaker 1: because the college football, especially couch football, you never have 1229 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: changed personnel. They can go fast. You got your eleven 1230 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 1: guys on the field because you got five defenders in 1231 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 1: the back end. How you use them now, all of 1232 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 1: a sudden creates a problem for offense because they're looking 1233 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 1: at you, going who's coming in the box? What safeties rotating? 1234 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: Because you've got three safeties. You got it, we call 1235 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: the one guy with Tillman. So we got a Tillman guy. 1236 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta ranger field safety and uh you 1237 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 1: know and uh you know in tight safety. And then 1238 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 1: we got two corners. Well, all those guys have to 1239 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: have the ability to cover. We got two safeties that 1240 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: can come down in the box orcan blitz. Okay, it's 1241 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 1: kind of similar a little bit of how we lose 1242 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 1: John Lynch when I was in Tampa. You know, we 1243 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 1: could bring John in the box, we could send him 1244 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 1: in coverage. So it's unique kind of defense and you 1245 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 1: never have to change personnel, which is good. I love that. 1246 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: Who is the architective that I know? Rocket gets go 1247 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,320 Speaker 1: beyond Rocket? It probably goes, but I know it from Rocky. 1248 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 1: And and that's where Danny cut his teeth, you know, 1249 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: Danny Um played in that system. Always said you know 1250 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 1: it was Bryan Earle record and then it was Danny 1251 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 1: Gonzalis or or whatever. But it was like a old 1252 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 1: boy and really I said, oh yeah, you know he 1253 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: set the tone for Brian or like. And I just 1254 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 1: saw Brian up and tiles. So we laughed about by 1255 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 1: the way, oh yeah, And I told him, I said, hey, man, 1256 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: you've been in town, so you come and visit me 1257 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 1: yet coach, I said, don't stop, don't say coaches when 1258 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 1: you come visit. I said, we're running your defense. Man. 1259 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 1: We brag about you all the time, coming over there 1260 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 1: and show the players back. Used to be the Lobo, right, 1261 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: they called the Lobo spot, and so we we you know, 1262 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 1: they in San Diego. They called it the Aztec and 1263 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: you know, obviously we're gonna change the name for Pat too. 1264 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 1: Anytime you can name a defense or a position on 1265 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: defense after Pat Tillman, um, that's a tribute to what 1266 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 1: he meant uh to to Arizona State, to football. Just 1267 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: and I told the players this, so you know, and 1268 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, you know, I said 1269 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 1: on the tunnel and I said, there's a statue of 1270 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 1: Pat Tillman. And I told the players this, and I 1271 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: told the fans, is you better play with his emotion, 1272 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 1: because if you can't play with his emotion, you can't 1273 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 1: play her. You're not gonna You're not gonna address that way. 1274 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 1: We can live with the outcome give me because when 1275 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 1: you passed that man and you passed that that statue, 1276 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, uh, you know, this is what we 1277 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 1: gotta do. And so I think that's important. That's phenomenal. 1278 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 1: How about your kind of mentors through this process? Coach 1279 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 1: always never can learn too much, always looking to grow, 1280 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: looking to learn with this transition for you going to 1281 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 1: college game, who has kind of serving that role, Well, 1282 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 1: I've I've talked. I reached out to a bunch of 1283 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 1: and I don't want to mention them all, but it's 1284 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 1: kind of funny. This week I was with Coach Local 1285 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: Marci Um, his son is on our staff, and they 1286 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 1: were in Carmel. I was at home. They came over. 1287 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 1: We played gol. I didn't even play. I said, I 1288 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: don't want to play. I just wanted to ride with 1289 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 1: Coach Local, peppering with questions because I can remember when 1290 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 1: I was a scout going to Texas and then we 1291 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 1: just head coach and so we have a lot of things. 1292 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 1: We have a lot of people in common that we know, 1293 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: and so just visiting him about his program and some 1294 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 1: of the things he thought about that he would do 1295 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 1: different interesting and that was as interesting, and so as 1296 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,959 Speaker 1: we can continue to talk. Just the knowledge you gain 1297 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 1: from guys like that UM is unbelievable. So it's it's 1298 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate to be around a bunch of 1299 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 1: guys with a lot of knowledge and guys calling me too. 1300 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of coaches calling me say, coach, 1301 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 1: you need something that I've had guys current guys here 1302 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 1: UM that have called UM. You know, So it's been 1303 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,480 Speaker 1: good because I know most of these guys. I visited, 1304 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 1: you know everybody. Yeah, that's the problem. I kind of 1305 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: do kind of you sound like my daughter now, you know, 1306 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 1: when when she was when they were six and seven, 1307 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 1: and you know, working for the Worldwide Leader you coach 1308 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: you under armur game and go down to Disney, you know. 1309 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 1: And so one little one, Vivian, right about five years old, 1310 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: we're walking through the park and people are stopping and 1311 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm taking pictures with people, and so, you know, she's five, 1312 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm just daddy. You know, You're like, she's listening to 1313 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 1: my daddy. You know, she doesn't really know what anything. 1314 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 1: And it's good because I never I don't tell to 1315 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 1: my kids about you know. And so finally she about 1316 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 1: thirty minutes to this deal, she finally she grabs my 1317 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 1: leg and she says, she's my past. She says, daddy, Daddy. 1318 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, honey. She says, you have a lot 1319 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 1: of friends. I said, I said, you're right, he has 1320 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: a lot of friends. And it's kind of ironic, you know. 1321 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Now she's eleven, she's eleven years old. Oh, daddy, she's 1322 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: I know why you have a lot of friends now, 1323 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 1: And that's okay, that's a great way to end it. 1324 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 1: Here coach, Thank you so much. Thanks for being good 1325 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: to me when I was kind of making that switch 1326 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 1: over in the broadcast. I'll never forget what you have done. 1327 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 1: A great job, my friend. I watch you and um, 1328 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think your ability to to make it 1329 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 1: and simplify it because football can be complicated, but it's 1330 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 1: really a simple game. Uh. Athleticism of athletes and how 1331 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 1: they fit at a position can be complicated. You make 1332 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: it simple without being negative. You know it's easy to 1333 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 1: be negative. You know, it's we live in a world 1334 01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 1: where it's easy to say, well he can't do that. No, 1335 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 1: it's not as they can't do that. It's more of 1336 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 1: this is what he can do. And that was influence. 1337 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 1: He don't tell me send the draft from tell me 1338 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 1: everything this guy can't do, can do because that's our 1339 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 1: job to what he can do. Listen, list enhance that. 1340 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 1: That's why it's called team man. Thank you so much, coach. 1341 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. What route for you this year? Thank 1342 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 1: you all right? Joined by u c l A head 1343 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: coach Chip Kelly, coach. How you doing, I'm good, I'm good, 1344 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 1: just my favorite. Yeah, you love media day, big fan. 1345 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 1: It's it's uh it's entertaining. Well, we're gonna take you 1346 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 1: in a different direction here because we're gonna actually talk football. 1347 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask you too much about this usually 1348 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 1: a team which I'm excited to seeing the fall, but 1349 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 1: I want to get some some big picture stuff with 1350 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: you talking about the quarterback position. Last year, Buck myself, 1351 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 1: we had a chance to ask all these guys that 1352 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 1: came through there. It was interesting to get the answers 1353 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 1: of just in the recruiting process what you were looking 1354 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. But now we've kind of advanced 1355 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 1: a little bit and say, okay, now let's the kid 1356 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 1: gets on campus. You've had a great track record of 1357 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 1: this and being able to develop these guys. What is 1358 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 1: the plan? Is there a generic plan that you use 1359 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 1: for any quarterback that comes through or you know, take 1360 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: us through that process once he's actually on the campus. Well, 1361 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 1: I think you have to tweak it a little bit 1362 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 1: depending on who they are and what their skill set 1363 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,440 Speaker 1: is coming in because you've got kids that come in 1364 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: from varying background. So some kids that are have been 1365 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 1: coached and have had their own personal quarterback coach for 1366 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: a long time, and um, you know, have a good 1367 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 1: understanding of things. And then there's other kids that they 1368 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,919 Speaker 1: got a world of upside and you took them because 1369 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: of their potential, but they're they're raw, you know. You know, 1370 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: I think that they talked about Sam Donald being a 1371 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: little bit like that coming out where he he was 1372 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: a linebacker, he's a basketball player, and he was other 1373 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 1: and then they they finally got him to play. You know, 1374 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 1: he was a quarterback, but now be a quarterback full time, 1375 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 1: where other quarterbacks have been doing that for a long time. 1376 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 1: So I think you gotta take everybody on an individual basis, 1377 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: but um, trying to get them to understand I think 1378 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 1: the biggest transition from a quarterback development is just a 1379 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 1: mental aspect of things is how to process things quickly 1380 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 1: and make decisions in real time. How do you deal 1381 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 1: with them in terms of the learning, um, just in 1382 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 1: terms of maybe teaching these kids giving him some help 1383 01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 1: and in terms of note taking different things like that 1384 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 1: to get them prepared on that side of it. Yeah, 1385 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: I think it's in how you present it, you know. 1386 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: So we spend a lot of time on our preparation 1387 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 1: for what our meetings are like and how we're going 1388 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 1: to install things with them. So that, um, you know, 1389 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 1: are there any bridges or gaps or hacks that can 1390 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 1: help you? But um, we teach concepts and then we 1391 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 1: drill down to the individual place within the concepts. But 1392 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 1: want them to understand that why we're running it. I 1393 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 1: think when they get the why we're running something, um, 1394 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 1: more than how we're running it, I think is the 1395 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 1: important part where this is to attack this. So when 1396 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 1: they're in this, this is how we react to it. 1397 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, kind of giving them a 1398 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 1: general overall explanation, not just here's the name of the plane, 1399 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 1: who's your progression, and just memorize it, because, um, the 1400 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 1: millennials nowadays can retain a ton of information. I think 1401 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 1: their issue with millennials nowadays is retrieval because they've learned 1402 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 1: everything by well, I'll just google it, you know, and 1403 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 1: there or in the old days. And if you're one 1404 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 1: of you're you're one of two people in this world 1405 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 1: from a technology standpoint. If you were born after, you're 1406 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 1: uh technology person. If you were born before technology immigrant 1407 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 1: And so they don't know how to memorize the phone number. 1408 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 1: When we were growing up, you have to memorize eybody's 1409 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 1: phone number. You want to call somebody. You memorize it. 1410 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 1: Now you just started off, I don't know my my 1411 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 1: my kid's phone up, Yeah, what's the phone numbers? And 1412 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 1: my phone? It's in my phone and that's it. So 1413 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 1: they they struggle, I think from a retrieval standpoint, So 1414 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 1: you have to spend time on teaching them how to 1415 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 1: retrieve things because it's been so easy for them because um, 1416 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 1: but on the flip side, if Drake comes out with 1417 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 1: a new song two days later, they know every single 1418 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 1: word and can spit it back to you, and you're just, 1419 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 1: how did you memorize that? You know what I mean? So, um, 1420 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 1: I think it's just how you teach it and how 1421 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 1: you approach it. Now when you when you look at 1422 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 1: your time off I was doing. I was actually calling 1423 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 1: a game with New Mexico to Mexico State, and what 1424 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 1: New Mexico I'm the week leading up to it, I 1425 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 1: don't know why I hadn't paid attention to what they've 1426 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 1: been doing in New Mexico, freaking unbelievable what they've done 1427 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 1: from the gun. And then during that week talked to 1428 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,280 Speaker 1: coaching staff and they're like, yeah, you know, Chip had 1429 01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,200 Speaker 1: had just rolled through there, so I'm fascinating to know 1430 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 1: what you were studying during your time was end of 1431 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 1: how did New Mexico lead the nation in rushing? No question? 1432 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 1: What is Bob doing? You know? So it was fun. 1433 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,080 Speaker 1: I spent time there. I went to A and M 1434 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 1: to see Kevin Sumlin. Um. I went to Maryland to 1435 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 1: see DJ Durkin. I went to Virginia to see Bronco. 1436 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 1: I spent a couple of days with coach cut Clifford Duke. Um. 1437 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 1: I went to the Naval Academy to see Ken. So 1438 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,440 Speaker 1: I was selective in terms of where I went, but 1439 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 1: there was always a reason. So I wanted to see 1440 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 1: why they ran the ball as well as they were 1441 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 1: in the ball, and how they were so explosive in 1442 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 1: the run game in New Mexico. And then you know 1443 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 1: there there was different things everywhere I went, but it 1444 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 1: was just it was kind of fun. You know, you 1445 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 1: get to go around and kind of you know, you 1446 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 1: had no motive. I wasn't trying to play them, I 1447 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 1: wasn't trying to get anything from them. They were a 1448 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 1: lot more open and receptive and and and I really 1449 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. The uh, I gotta get connected with my 1450 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,320 Speaker 1: guy app State. By the way, Scott Saderfield, I don't know. 1451 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 1: I did not like Scott Satterfeld. Did you play well? 1452 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 1: You do you play him? When he was at up 1453 01:05:51,680 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: State and Matt Stevens we lost in overtime and not 1454 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:01,880 Speaker 1: know that. I'm sure he came up, but it was 1455 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 1: third and nine and Scott Sadderfield scrambled for first down. 1456 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,160 Speaker 1: If we sacked him, the game was over. And then 1457 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 1: they scored. Then we played him in overtime, and then 1458 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 1: they scored on the first playoff over time, and then 1459 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,120 Speaker 1: our first playoff over time. Lee with Clinton, who played 1460 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 1: fullback fource and played in the NFL, had like a 1461 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,640 Speaker 1: fourteen yard run, two inside the ten yard line and 1462 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 1: then got hit and fumbled and the and it was over. 1463 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 1: So it's one of those where it's hit balls on 1464 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 1: the ground and you're like seasons over right now, It's 1465 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 1: like what just happened? And it still goes back to 1466 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 1: Scott Sadderfield. Tell him he scrambled. He scrambled on third dot. 1467 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm still pissed about it. I'm gonna te him. I 1468 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 1: talked to him this morning that it was it was interesting. 1469 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 1: I was asking him who he had been watching, who 1470 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 1: he had been studied. He actually said the Eagles spent 1471 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 1: a lot of times steady. The was a lot of 1472 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 1: that stuff traced back to what you did there. Anybody 1473 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 1: else with McVeigh has been any fascination with WHN. I 1474 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 1: spent some time with Sean this uh since I got here, 1475 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 1: because obviously he's with in l A. So we we've 1476 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 1: gone to dinner a few times and top football and 1477 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 1: he's not a hell of a job. I think how 1478 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,920 Speaker 1: he developed Jared. You know, you see Jared from one 1479 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,640 Speaker 1: year to the next year, like wow, in what's the 1480 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, obviously Jared mc sure the difference between being 1481 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 1: a year one quarterback in the NFL a year two. 1482 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 1: But I think the way Sean coaches and and puts 1483 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 1: them in such good situations, it's really impressive to watch. 1484 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,240 Speaker 1: How frustrating is it for you? And not naming any 1485 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 1: of those guys you watch, but I go to high 1486 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 1: school practice and I'll go to different college practice, NFL practice. 1487 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,960 Speaker 1: The inefficiency makes me want to pull my hair out. 1488 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it does to you, just seeing 1489 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 1: it's hard how some of this gets operated. It's hard 1490 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 1: sometimes run a play, sit around, talk five minutes running 1491 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 1: and it drives me crazy. I went to I used 1492 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 1: to go to the Patriots all time when I was 1493 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 1: at New Hampshire and coach Parcels was the head coach, 1494 01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,920 Speaker 1: and that'll Grow was the defensive coordinator and now was 1495 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 1: coaching the linebackers and was explaining something to him and 1496 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 1: Bill looks over at me and he goes, hey, Chip, 1497 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 1: how long has all been talking to him? And I'm 1498 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm an assistant at New Hampshire and I'm like, like, 1499 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know he remembered my name, and I was like, 1500 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 1: and he goes how long has he been talking to him? 1501 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 1: And not go like two or three minutes? And Bill 1502 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 1: ripped al Grow. He goes, hey, what time are meetings 1503 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 1: and he goes there at seven thirty tonight. He goes that, 1504 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 1: don't have one on the field. Get those guys moving, 1505 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 1: and then al Grow looks at me and I'm sorry, 1506 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 1: I didn't mean it. You out of him. But one 1507 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 1: of the things you learned from coach Barceselves is that 1508 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 1: you better be efficient. And when you're on the field, 1509 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 1: you're on the field of practicing, not on the field 1510 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 1: to talk. And when you watch some of these guys, 1511 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 1: I only want to do is talk. When you do 1512 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 1: it in the meeting room. One of my favorite things. 1513 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,720 Speaker 1: You do it up at Oregon. I had never seen 1514 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 1: it before, and maybe you got I don't know where 1515 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 1: you got it from. But just even like Pattent Go, 1516 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:21,920 Speaker 1: you guys are going through Pattent Go on the way 1517 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 1: back to the line. You had like g a set 1518 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,519 Speaker 1: up there, and you're getting a little release drill for 1519 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,760 Speaker 1: the wide receivers as they were getting back into the line. 1520 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,680 Speaker 1: Where do you come up with this stuff? We're just 1521 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,800 Speaker 1: trying to be efficient, so we do We do patent 1522 01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,680 Speaker 1: Go on one side, we do a curled out on 1523 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,799 Speaker 1: the other side. Um, and then they gotta get releases 1524 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 1: on both sides. And then when they go behind the quarterback, 1525 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:41,760 Speaker 1: they've got to learn how to make a forty five 1526 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,120 Speaker 1: degree cut with a ball in their hand off the 1527 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 1: running back. So how do you make that drill more efficient? 1528 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 1: It's a three minute drill, But when it turns into 1529 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,200 Speaker 1: just eye jog half speed with my gloves hanging off 1530 01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 1: my face mask and the quarterbacks not taking a drop 1531 01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 1: and lamming them up, It's like, why are we practicing 1532 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 1: if that's what we're gonna do. So we just how 1533 01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: do we take the same drill and make it as 1534 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 1: quickly and as efficient as possible? Um, And that's all 1535 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 1: we're trying to do. I loved it. Has there been 1536 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,599 Speaker 1: other other areas that you kind of collected some different 1537 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,439 Speaker 1: thoughts of being able to How fun is that for 1538 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,840 Speaker 1: you be able to implement that and what you it's 1539 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 1: been fun, you know? And just how do we our 1540 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 1: whole premises? And we're you know, we're trying to prepare 1541 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 1: our guys to have as much energy and juice as 1542 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:20,680 Speaker 1: they can be on Saturday when we play, and how 1543 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,599 Speaker 1: we're fishing? Are we in did we give them enough? 1544 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 1: You know? So when the game there as a result 1545 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 1: in the game, is that that did they fail or 1546 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:28,960 Speaker 1: did we fail them? You know? And did we not 1547 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 1: prepare them in the right way? And so what situations 1548 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 1: occur in the game and are we making sure that 1549 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,519 Speaker 1: they see those from a from a training standpoint? I 1550 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 1: know we've got some mutual friends, one of which is 1551 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 1: is John Gordon, who does a great job on the 1552 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,640 Speaker 1: on the leadership front and another leadership book I was 1553 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 1: reading the summer. I wrote down some of the stuff 1554 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 1: that I want to get your thoughts on it here. 1555 01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 1: Just this quote stuck out to me. Enthusiasm is common, 1556 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,800 Speaker 1: endurance is rare, And I think that's that to me 1557 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,160 Speaker 1: is a lot about college. But there's a lot of 1558 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 1: raw ry out there, notch. But then in terms of 1559 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 1: the grind of the season and being able to endure, 1560 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 1: how do you how do you get your team ready 1561 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,320 Speaker 1: for that kind of long haul? I think that's a 1562 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 1: great statement, and I think it's about preparing on a 1563 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 1: daily basis, and there's too much I think, in my opinion, 1564 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 1: when you watch all those guys with their simulated dances 1565 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,559 Speaker 1: on the kickoffs and and that's all well and good, 1566 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,000 Speaker 1: and I would watch it because I sat there in 1567 01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:13,600 Speaker 1: ESPN and I'm like, wow, look at them. And then 1568 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,519 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they have this team scores two touchdowns, 1569 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 1: and then then they score and they're down one seven 1570 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:19,640 Speaker 1: and there's no one dancing on the kickoff. I'm like, 1571 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,400 Speaker 1: I thought dancing on the kickoff was an important thing. 1572 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,599 Speaker 1: And then you go watch Nick Sabans team and there's 1573 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 1: not one guy moving and they're just staring at you 1574 01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 1: like a Rott Wilder on a fence. Wait, and they 1575 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 1: like pounce on you and there there's no one dancing 1576 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 1: back and forth in the kickoff. They're just going on, 1577 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,560 Speaker 1: getting ready to smack somebody. And I've always, you know, 1578 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 1: kind of chuckled about it. You know, we celebrate better 1579 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 1: than everybody. I'm like, if I don't have enough time 1580 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,640 Speaker 1: to practice, how we're gonna celebrate. You know, we got 1581 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,760 Speaker 1: we got red zone, we got third down, we got 1582 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,400 Speaker 1: a lot of things we gotta worry about. So what 1583 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,080 Speaker 1: are we gonna see just real quick here on this 1584 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:47,600 Speaker 1: team this year? What are we gonna see from this 1585 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,800 Speaker 1: UCLA football team in terms of identity? You know what, 1586 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I truly don't know. We we're so young. Um, 1587 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:59,040 Speaker 1: we'll have thirty eight freshmen when we report next Friday, uh, 1588 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 1: twenty nine college some kids. You know, we kind of 1589 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 1: four back so from the year before because they were 1590 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,640 Speaker 1: under um and then eight or nine walk on Z 1591 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,000 Speaker 1: that will fill in there. And UM, you're gonna see 1592 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,759 Speaker 1: a lot of young faces. We only have eight seniors 1593 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,240 Speaker 1: on the football team, so, UM, it's gonna be a 1594 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:13,960 Speaker 1: young team. You know, the guys that we have have 1595 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,679 Speaker 1: practiced extremely horrid and um, you know, have done everything 1596 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,400 Speaker 1: we've asked them. To do. But there'll be a lot 1597 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 1: of fresh faces that we didn't even practice within the 1598 01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 1: spring that are gonna have to play just because of 1599 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 1: our numbers at certain positions. So it'll be fun. There'll 1600 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:27,679 Speaker 1: be a lot of guys run around. They'll play hard 1601 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,800 Speaker 1: if we're un I love it all right, Hey, thank 1602 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 1: you so much for your time. Coach, wish is the 1603 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 1: best look this season? Thanks all right, black Well, it's 1604 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 1: been a fun day here at Pack twelve media day 1605 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 1: last year, two days this year. One. But I feel 1606 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 1: like we jammed it all in. We got it all done. 1607 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:44,760 Speaker 1: We did get it all that. We had a lot 1608 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 1: to talk about, a lot of ground to cover, but 1609 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,599 Speaker 1: I think some fascinating conversations, particularly with the coaches when 1610 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 1: it comes to developing quarterbacks. I think we all are 1611 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,920 Speaker 1: fascinated but not only finding but developing quarterbacks and seeing 1612 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,680 Speaker 1: if we can make those guys elite playmakers at the position. Yeah, 1613 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 1: it's something I always it like I learned something, take 1614 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 1: something away when I come to this event, and uh, 1615 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,280 Speaker 1: it's valuable. We're both here just scribbling down notes while 1616 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 1: we're doing these interviews and trying to learn and continue 1617 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:12,000 Speaker 1: to grow as football guys. Here, Buck, you know we're 1618 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,559 Speaker 1: not We're not like some of these other podcasts at 1619 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,439 Speaker 1: the at the NFL Media Group. You know, I'm gonna 1620 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,560 Speaker 1: to our own horn. We're not gonna be kind of 1621 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 1: in your face so patting each other on the back 1622 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,040 Speaker 1: because they're allegedly there's something out there where you can 1623 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 1: vote for, you know, your favorite podcasts, and you know 1624 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,639 Speaker 1: that's We're not gonna do that. We're not gonna ask 1625 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:29,920 Speaker 1: people to get online and do that as some of 1626 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,000 Speaker 1: these other podcast you're gonna do because that's just not 1627 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 1: who we are people. But solly, you can do it 1628 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,640 Speaker 1: if you want a right absolutely so uh, listeners, we 1629 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 1: do need your help though, uh all kidding aside, Uh, 1630 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 1: please go to www dot Podcast Awards dot com and 1631 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,920 Speaker 1: nominate Move the Sticks in the Sports category. Don't worry 1632 01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,160 Speaker 1: about the other podcast. Just Move the Sticks and simple 1633 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:58,160 Speaker 1: and free to do. That's www. Dot Podcast Awards dot com. 1634 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,360 Speaker 1: Click Listener nominations now open up at the top of 1635 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 1: the page. Sign up, go to the sports category and 1636 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,680 Speaker 1: nominate us. See we're humble bucks. We would never ask 1637 01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,439 Speaker 1: anybody to do all that. That's a lot of words. 1638 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,479 Speaker 1: A streamline the process, all those clicks. We meant a 1639 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,000 Speaker 1: lot of clicking, but how many log in names his 1640 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:19,799 Speaker 1: hands as have at least a yeah, at least easy. 1641 01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,960 Speaker 1: But are you eligible to vote for this overseas? Yeah? Absolutely, 1642 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 1: then they're gonna win. They do have a audience. We 1643 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 1: actually do have a large following, not quite as big 1644 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,479 Speaker 1: as as like they. I think they have a thousands 1645 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,160 Speaker 1: of people in England. True story, true story, because I 1646 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 1: think I told you guys this last week, this follow up. 1647 01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,519 Speaker 1: Um So I went to when I went to Orlando, 1648 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,679 Speaker 1: went to Disney World, I had to wear NFL Network 1649 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,479 Speaker 1: shirt for seven hours in the park there Disney World. 1650 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,559 Speaker 1: Nobody figured out who I was. So it was very 1651 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 1: it was very humbling. Buck. You know, you think you're 1652 01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:56,400 Speaker 1: I think you're a sea level celebrity. My son. So 1653 01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,320 Speaker 1: now my kids are sitting here thinking that, you know, 1654 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,439 Speaker 1: dad's been saying he's been on TV. We don't really 1655 01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 1: know if that's true. And then I we go on 1656 01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,680 Speaker 1: this vacation, on this cruise and we're coming back from 1657 01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 1: Montreal and I come up to the customs line and 1658 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,600 Speaker 1: hand up my passports and the guy looks at my passport. 1659 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,760 Speaker 1: He's wearing a rubber glove because I'm sure there's some 1660 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 1: germ things there. Takes a rubber glove off and looks 1661 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 1: at me and I'm like, I know this, I don't 1662 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 1: know what this means. He goes huge fan of a 1663 01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:25,000 Speaker 1: huge fan of the podcast. So I feel like I 1664 01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:26,640 Speaker 1: got picked up again in front of my kids, like 1665 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 1: I can walk around and that my kids to be 1666 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,599 Speaker 1: proud of me again. Yeah, and he actually Officer Witten, 1667 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:37,200 Speaker 1: officer out, Officer, big shout out to you because I 1668 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:42,840 Speaker 1: was smuggling all kinds of stuff at DJ now. Good dude, 1669 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,080 Speaker 1: good dude. So anyways, that was a nice pick me 1670 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,519 Speaker 1: up there, Buck. I needed. That I needed was down 1671 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,400 Speaker 1: down to the town stuff Disney World again. Though. Hey, 1672 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 1: if you can go and vote on that that award thing, 1673 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 1: that'd be cool. But you know what, we're not about awards, 1674 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,559 Speaker 1: not about honors. We're about just doing the hard work. 1675 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,560 Speaker 1: Those are the Grindstone Podcast anyway. Sorry, that's gonna do 1676 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,080 Speaker 1: it for us today. We've got a video show coming 1677 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 1: up though, next Tuesday at first one of the year 1678 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,680 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com slash mts video you can find that. 1679 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,519 Speaker 1: So we have lots of training camp goodies come in 1680 01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 1: your way. Hey, look, there's our good friend Curtis Conway 1681 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,600 Speaker 1: over there. Buck. Oh, let's see what we've got all R. 1682 01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,040 Speaker 1: Let's wrap this up. We're gonna go see hi to 1683 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,040 Speaker 1: our buddy Curtis Conway here. That's gonna do it for 1684 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,600 Speaker 1: us here on Move the Sticks. Thank you guys for listening, downloading, 1685 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,440 Speaker 1: telling a friend, leaving us a little review at Apple Podcasts. 1686 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 1: We do appreciate it. This has been the Move the 1687 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,160 Speaker 1: Sticks Podcast presented by Castrol Edge and we'll see you 1688 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: next time. Thanks for downloading Move the Sticks with Daniel 1689 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:41,080 Speaker 1: Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, go to NFL dot 1690 01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,160 Speaker 1: com slash Podcasts