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Speaker 2: You can't say anything wrong about him, right But uh carry,

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Speaker 2: here's something you don't know about me. But every so

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Speaker 2: often there's a story and my panties will get in

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Speaker 2: a bunch and this is one of those stories.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm a little moist right now. I'm just

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Speaker 2: We were talking about the athletics piece about the quarterback tears,

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Speaker 2: and this drove me to tears as.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the Athletic Annual Quarterback Tiers came out today. Mike

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Speaker 4: Sander does a great job. Mike Center'll be on the

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Speaker 4: oct Couple this Thursday, eight thirty pm if you want

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Speaker 4: to check it out. And so I could trash him, well,

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Speaker 4: I'm not trashing him. He's just compiling that, ok. And

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Speaker 4: we can tell him.

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Speaker 1: Like, what were they thinking? Especially with this one.

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Speaker 4: So we mentioned early on in the show that there

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Speaker 4: are five quarterbacks listed in Tier one on this chart,

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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson. And you

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Speaker 4: would assume that number five is potentially Super Bowl MVP

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Speaker 4: Jalen hurts. No, you would assume it might be everybody's favorite.

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Speaker 4: Make a quarterback that would be Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: And that's because and I get it. This size his arm,

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Speaker 1: like he looks the part. I get it.

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Speaker 2: And why they all fall in love with him. He's

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Speaker 2: got a big arm, he's tall, he's big. I get

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Speaker 2: all that. But he hasn't played up today, No, not yet.

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Speaker 1: More than him.

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Speaker 4: Some might even say, if it's not Kayleb Williams it's

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Speaker 4: the previous generational quarterback, Trevor Lawrence non ei there instead,

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Speaker 4: who is it the number five quarterback Tier one in

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Speaker 2: Oh my, absolutely ridiculous, the worst. I mean, this makes

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Speaker 2: you question the whole list. Seriously, Stafford is not a

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Speaker 2: Tier one quarterback. I mean, what Jalen Hurts carry here

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Speaker 2: we go, all right, let's get it. This has nothing

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Speaker 2: Jayleen hurts two as well, blaming that he has a

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Speaker 1: That can't be your reason.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying you have to pick him in your

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, he lost to Patrick Mahomes. He outplayed Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: He played great except for the one and fumble that

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Speaker 2: And now last year the Eagles were supposed to be

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, look at all that He's unbelievable. He's

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Speaker 2: He it's about Saquon had about nine yards in the

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Speaker 1: I know it wasn't that low, but you get my point.

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Speaker 1: He had no impact.

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Speaker 2: Every analyst you wanted to listen to prior to the

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Speaker 1: And they stopped Saquon. They stop Saquon, and they still

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Speaker 2: They got blowed out, as they said at the barbershop

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Speaker 2: carry They got blowed out, blowed blow blowed out. And

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Speaker 2: he made every important throw you needed to make. Am

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Speaker 2: I right, you we all watched it. He played great

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Speaker 2: and in that Super Bowl. And the disrespect is still

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Speaker 2: think that you would put a thirty seven year old

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Speaker 2: is about padded stats. That's what it's called stat Padford

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Speaker 2: in Detroit over Jalen Hurds. Listen, I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford is a really good quarterback. And I know

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Speaker 5: you have your your stuff about him. I only because

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Speaker 5: I watched him, you know what I mean, Like I

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Speaker 5: watched him. Yeah, so I'm not looking not from afar.

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Speaker 5: I covered I told you the I covered the Lions.

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Speaker 2: I was a columnist in Detroit every game for fifteen

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm going to tell you this about Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a big Jalen Hurts fan. I'm a fan

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Speaker 5: of his in big games. Though big games, he outperforms

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Speaker 5: to a different level in these games that makes you

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Speaker 5: want to put him on these lists, Like just like

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Speaker 2: Well, if I only think matt if Vanthew Stafford is, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's where my issue. Okay, gotcha, because I'm comparing him

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Speaker 5: Okay, gotcha, because yes, he would be in my mind,

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Speaker 5: he is a Tier two quarterback. Jalen Hurts now in

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Speaker 5: big games in the two Super Bowl games that you're

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Speaker 5: talking about, he was Tier one and those he played

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Speaker 2: So why do we give Patrick mahomes all the love

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Speaker 5: I'm about to get to that. Okay, to be a

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Speaker 5: Tier one quarterback, you got to do this day in

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Speaker 5: top four that we talked about, mahomes Borough, Allen Jackson

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Speaker 5: stand above the rest. I understand that being a Tier

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Speaker 5: one with Matthew Stafford being Tier one. I don't actually

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Speaker 5: So I just don't. I just don't see him being

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Speaker 5: Matthew there's my argument. You know what I'm saying, if

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Speaker 5: in front of in front of Stafford.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: If Stafford's not in the time, they only went with

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Speaker 2: the four the four I have. Okay, I told you

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes the last two years not played as I

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Speaker 2: don't believe that last year Stafford I think had what

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Speaker 2: he throwed twelve touchdowns for the twenty touchdowns eight interceptions. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there was one stretch last year were their offense it

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what is it based on? Is it just

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Speaker 2: because you remember Matthews Stafford winning a game, winning the

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Speaker 2: just say his last thing Stafford even in you remember

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Speaker 2: how they won the Super Bowl, right, he threw a

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Speaker 1: Right? Yep?

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Speaker 2: Not often due a quarterback throw a game winning touchdown

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Speaker 2: not get the MVP because he didn't play well. He

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Speaker 2: had two interceptions before that. He hadn't played well enough.

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Speaker 2: for them to win even win the Super Bowl. But

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Speaker 2: Stafford didn't play well enough. It's very rare that a

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna tell you this right now.

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Speaker 5: In the NFC Championship game last year, the game before

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Speaker 5: the Rams played the Eagles, and Stafford outperformed Hurts in

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Speaker 2: Except for when it mattered, it was did never chance,

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Speaker 2: mean they couldn't get the ball, but they couldn't stop.

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Speaker 2: They know they got the ball, rob g didn't didn't

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Speaker 2: they have the ball and went for four and out

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Speaker 4: Game three scores in three said was left. They brought them,

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Speaker 4: brought him back down.

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Speaker 2: But they want a twenty yard line or something, where

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Speaker 2: when I then went four and out weld they they.

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Speaker 1: Wanted twenty five. They had a chip that.

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Speaker 5: Had a test. But the Eagles defense had something to

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Speaker 5: say about that he did. It wasn't his fault, Hurts.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Stafford in that game balled out.

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Speaker 1: You know why balled out?

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Speaker 2: Okay as usual because they were down three scores and

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Speaker 2: the defense, which which I don't I hate, prevent like

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Speaker 2: I just just keep playing. I just just keep playing.

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Speaker 2: Stop with the prevent. That's how teams come back all

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Speaker 2: do that? Just play regular coverage. I don't know, Rob G,

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Speaker 2: Am I a Sugarno? Am I crazy?

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Speaker 1: Rob G? What you got? Did you think about that?

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Speaker 1: That is a terrible list.

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Speaker 4: Look, Matthew Stafford, he's one of those guys like they

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Speaker 4: talk about in basketball where they say, you know, Kyrie

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Speaker 4: may I have the accolade to some of his peers,

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Speaker 4: but he's your favorite player's favorite players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. That's a good one.

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Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford is a quarterback where he's like your favorite

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Speaker 1: I'm in no way, no way, like it's got the

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Speaker 4: there's a whole spectrum that we got to cover here

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Speaker 2: That Sesame Street or one of these things don't don't

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Speaker 2: But that's crazy, alright, eight seven seven ninety nine on

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Speaker 2: Who's better Jalen Hurts or Matthew Stafford? You know where

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Speaker 2: I'm coming from. Carry, I think he's coming around, right,

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Speaker 1: How many interceptions get from Brett farv right? I got

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Speaker 2: If even the statistician like made that as a reception.

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Speaker 1: It's simple. Where you got Jalen Hurt.

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Speaker 2: So you got Matthew Stafford, stat Patford, whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: I'm down with Jalen Hurts. I'm sorry, I just cannot Stafford. No,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not do Stafford over Jalen Hurts. But I

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Speaker 2: Justin from Bermuda. You're on with the couple, how are you?

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Speaker 1: Man? Just hear me, Yes.

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Speaker 8: A couple of the nationals.

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Speaker 2: We love it, my man in Bermuda. That's it very nice.

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Speaker 8: And the king of the dropped adletition on the DJ

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Speaker 8: man really appreciate you. Listen, Rob you you like the

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Speaker 8: most dedicated stat Padford hater ever is I love it?

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Speaker 8: Love you are truly dedicated, dedicated. He's right on this one,

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Speaker 8: Stafford Stad Padford is better than is just Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 3: Does that that?

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Speaker 1: Well, what are we playing for?

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Speaker 1: Didn't happen? Did we lose them?

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Speaker 8: And yeah, Jalen played pretty good. But I think Carrie

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Speaker 8: had it right. There's only four guys in the first

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Speaker 2: Stafford is not a first tier quarterback. I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 1: Is this the World League?

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it?

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening in Bermuda or appreciate that we

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Speaker 1: You owned with the Akaba? Are you Dre? What's up?

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Speaker 1: Are this your boy Drake doing?

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Speaker 7: Rob back from the uh ah an a b J.

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Speaker 2: You know, great conference, you know, you know we had

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Speaker 1: They really they set it out nice for us. It

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Speaker 2: I mean for me to go back to drinking, that

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Speaker 1: I mean, Andre, I just fell off the wagon.

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Speaker 7: So you're gonna get right back into the swing of things.

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Speaker 7: He's gonna put the rocky music on and you're gonna

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Speaker 7: just like New but speaking of Rocky, there's no two

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Speaker 7: ways about this. For me, jialing Hurts okay, all day,

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Speaker 7: ten year difference, I'm taking jailing Hurts on every single opportunity.

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Speaker 7: And people can push back as much as they want

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Speaker 7: that doesn't mean that Jalen Hurts can't put a team

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to Stafford's numbers. Last year he wasn't very

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Speaker 2: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, we got Jerome

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Speaker 1: How are you? Man? What's up?

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Speaker 2: Jerome?

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Speaker 10: Just let me tell you from bus Stafford.

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Speaker 3: Okase bad so dropped him, horrible weever?

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Speaker 8: Okay, mistakes bad wever. Ye don't cook him to the

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Speaker 1: I know, Jerome, year, who won the game?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 1: Who won the game? Who won the game?

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Speaker 2: They were Stafford went was at the twenty five yard line,

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Speaker 1: Right, finish the job if you that guy, finish the job, Jerome, Jerome,

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Speaker 1: I'm with your brother. I'm with the Jerome.

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Speaker 8: Dalen Jalen Hurts will never have the career Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 1: Jesse will. He's already he's already hold.

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Speaker 2: He's already had a noise. Not Matt Stafford. Stafford, no one.

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Speaker 8: Stop quarterback, no quarterback has carried the lord for fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what when I when I was in

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Speaker 2: Detroit and I watched all those games. They were down

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Speaker 2: twenty one nothing in the first quarter. All those stats

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Speaker 2: are empty. He threw in front of the defense. Stop

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Speaker 2: it all right, Jerome, you think you think Jalen.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the call. Let's squeeze one morning, which I get

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Speaker 1: one more in?

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Speaker 5: Okay, we got up. We got Scott from North Carolina.

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Speaker 5: You're on with the odd couple. How are you?

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Speaker 9: I'm doing good. I'm gonna get certain to the point.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Scott? What's up?

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Speaker 9: This is crazy, though, mis Sugar. All his career he's

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Speaker 9: never been considered a top taer quarterback. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 9: he's a top taer quarterback. And let me speak about

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Speaker 9: the playoff game. There was never a doubt that we

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Speaker 9: were going to lose that game. Never thought we meet

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Speaker 9: him earlier in this season as well. It was never

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Speaker 9: thought we was gonna lose that game. And on Jayla

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Speaker 9: Hurts they this is this credit is twenty twenty two

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Speaker 9: year run dag like he's been a starter for one year.

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Speaker 9: This is four years. He's been a started playoff each

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Speaker 9: year and he always hasn't had si sick on Barkley,

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Speaker 9: so like this is nothing new to him, getting to

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Speaker 9: the playoffs and reaching the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Scott, Scott, Scott, do you you have him as a

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Speaker 5: Tier one quarterback going tier two?

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Speaker 9: I have him as tare one because because he makes

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Speaker 9: everybody around better as well, Like he's a true quarterback

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Speaker 9: on a hand off the field, and that's something mess

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Speaker 9: Stafford never done. He's never elevated anybody or his teammates.

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Speaker 1: All right, there we go. Appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: All right, Coming up, Sam Munson from the coast of

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Speaker 2: Check the Mic podcast on the thirty third Team.

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Speaker 1: We'll do him. He'll join us next.

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Speaker 2: It is the Odd Couple on a Magic City Monday,

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Speaker 2: Rob Parker Kerry Roads in for kelvin Washington right here

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio, Sam Monson. He is the co

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Speaker 2: host of Check the Mic podcast on the thirty third Team.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Odd Couple, Sam. How are you saying

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Speaker 2: hi to Kerry Rhodes.

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Speaker 10: I'm doing well, guys, how are you what's.

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Speaker 1: Up, guy? Doing great?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Just the check the mic. I like the name of

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Speaker 1: the podcast.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to say that Michael Parsons I wanted

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Speaker 2: to rename his podcast to turn off the Micah. I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying, but Sam, thanks for joining us. Let's just start.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Shador Sanders your take. I mean people are

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Speaker 2: acting like people were saying that he can't play, and

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Speaker 2: they're like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, look see he can't play. Oh my god, that's

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Speaker 1: not what it was about.

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Speaker 2: What did you just make of his first action in

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Speaker 2: training and preseason game?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I thought he looked good. He was accurate, He

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Speaker 10: made some good decisions. His two touchdown passes were some

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Speaker 10: of the best rows he made in the game. You know,

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Speaker 10: the first one was really nice, accurate ball. The second

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Speaker 10: one he showed some really nice sort of pocket presence,

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Speaker 10: moved to his right, didn't bail from the pocket, which

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Speaker 10: is something he hasn't always been the best at in college.

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Speaker 10: And I thought it was encouraging. And you know, that

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Speaker 10: was a rare opportunity for him because two of their

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Speaker 10: quarterbacks were held out injured. The other one, Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 10: was held out because you know, he's an old man.

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Speaker 10: And it's probably going to be starting a regular season, right.

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Speaker 10: So Shador got like the whole game almost to play,

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Speaker 10: and that's an opportunity that a fifth ram rookie you know,

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Speaker 10: doesn't usually get, and he really took advantage of it.

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Speaker 10: And at the very minimum, the Browns are going to

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Speaker 10: have to look at him more, you know, in this

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Speaker 10: in this training camp, they're gonna have to give him

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Speaker 10: some better rats. They're gonna have to look at him

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Speaker 10: with the first.

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Speaker 1: Well, they haven't done that yet.

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Speaker 2: It just came out Sam that he hasn't moved up

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Speaker 2: at all, and they're there, they're watching him. I just

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Speaker 2: always question, uh, you know, if they really believe they

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Speaker 2: had something by this point, they've watched him now, in

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Speaker 2: his habits and what he's done. They could have moved

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Speaker 2: him up if they really believed, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: that they have something special. And I just wonder what

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Speaker 2: would be the reason to keep them att for string

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Speaker 2: if you if you really don't believe, if you believe

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Speaker 2: that he has something.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, it's still just one preseason game, you know.

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Speaker 10: I get to see more of him and everybody than

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Speaker 10: the rest of us. But I think at the very minimum,

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Speaker 10: you should start giving him some reps with the teams

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Speaker 10: above him, you know, give him some reps as the

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Speaker 10: third string or the second string. Doesn't mean you need

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Speaker 10: to jump them over Dylan Gabriel right this second, just

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Speaker 10: because of one game, but he should be getting those

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Speaker 10: kinds of looks and that's what he hasn't had yet

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Speaker 10: so far in training camp.

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Speaker 2: I remind people that the year the Lions went on

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Speaker 2: and sixteen, they went four to zero in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but.

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Speaker 5: No, Sam, So the thing is they got they got

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Speaker 5: four guys, right, four guys that you know we know

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Speaker 5: two of them are you know, black Oles won a

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl pickets capable, but we know we know they

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Speaker 5: traded some they traded some assets for him for picket

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Speaker 5: for picket. Out of those four quarterbacks, I mean, you're

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Speaker 5: not going to keep four in the active RUSS. So

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Speaker 5: what do you think the plan is with with Cleveland

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Speaker 5: with those guys?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I feel like Kenny Pickett is the

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Speaker 10: odd man.

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Speaker 1: I That's what I feel.

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Speaker 10: Depth shock, Ye.

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Speaker 1: So I can't see that.

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Speaker 2: I can't see two Wookie quarterbacks being there, and especially

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Speaker 2: with an old man, right, and that if he gets hurt,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna go you're the Brown. You're gonna go to

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Speaker 2: two rookie quarterbacks and playing the league. That doesn't make

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Speaker 2: sense to me.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think Schador Sanders and Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 10: are basically battling for a roster spot. You know, Dylan

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Speaker 10: Gabriel is a third round draft pick. He's basically safe.

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Speaker 10: You know, you're almost never getting rid of a third

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Speaker 10: round draft pick before the first season that he's played football.

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Speaker 10: Even if he's terrible, I mean, if he stinks some preseason,

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Speaker 10: he's probably still making the roster. So the only thing

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Speaker 10: that Shadur can do is prove that he's a better

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Speaker 10: bet than Kenny Pickett and actually jump over Dylan Gabriel

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Speaker 10: and them have both those guys make the roster. So

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Speaker 10: that's the challenge is that, you know, we're getting excited

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Speaker 10: after this one preseason game of Shdur Sanders, but he's

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Speaker 10: coming from fourth on the depth chart and he's trying

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Speaker 10: to convince them that he's a better bet to hold

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Speaker 10: on to in the regular season. Then, as you said,

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Speaker 10: the guy that's got some experience, you know that is

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Speaker 10: a veteran, and that's not that easy. I mean, he's

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Speaker 10: got to really show them that he's serious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt the tears came out the athletic with

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Speaker 2: the quarterbacks. I don't think Patrick Mahomes it's not a

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Speaker 2: lifetime Achievement award. The last two years, like people don't

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Speaker 2: want to look at his stats. People don't want to

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Speaker 2: and Sam, this is my argument. Last year it went

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Speaker 2: fifteen into the Chiefs at one point, I think they

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Speaker 2: were thirteen and zero or whatever, and Patrick Mahomes got

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Speaker 2: zero first places votes for MVP. How in a quarterback

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Speaker 2: league with a team that did that well, why don't

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Speaker 2: go to the super Bowl because he didn't play that well?

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Speaker 2: I mean they won games. I'm not I get it.

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Speaker 2: But the last two years, if you honestly look at

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes's stats and numbers, they aren't that great.

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Speaker 10: No, they're not. And I think there's a couple of

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Speaker 10: things working there. Number One, he does seem to be

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Speaker 10: able to turn it on in the playoffs and that

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Speaker 10: you know, that's something you hear a lot about quarterbacks.

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Speaker 10: But Mahomes does seem to be able to do that.

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Speaker 10: And if you look at his career, his entire career,

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Speaker 10: once he gets to the playoffs, he massively shrinks down

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Speaker 10: the number of sort of big mistakes he makes with

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Speaker 10: the football. You know, PFF tracks turnover worthy plays, So

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Speaker 10: whether or not it was caught, whether it was whether

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Speaker 10: it was actually turned over or not, how bad was

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Speaker 10: the decision. And Mahomes massively shrinks those plays as soon

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Speaker 10: as he hits the postseason. So I think number one,

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Speaker 10: we can give him a little bit of credit for

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Speaker 10: that and say, look, even if a couple of these

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Speaker 10: other quarterbacks might be better in the regular season, how

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Speaker 10: many of them would you take over Mahomes in a

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Speaker 10: real crunch playoff game if everything else was equal.

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Speaker 1: I get that if you're looking at his entire career.

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Speaker 2: But I'm thinking you're basing this off of what happened,

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Speaker 2: like what happened, and his numbers are the same numbers

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Speaker 2: that Aaron Rodgers had.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they really are.

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Speaker 2: People are honest with themselves, and they say Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: is terrible, has nothing left, and Patrick Mahomes is the

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Speaker 2: best quarter back in the league. Something doesn't make sense

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Speaker 2: to me.

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Speaker 10: No, I agree, And look, the other thing is, you know,

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Speaker 10: if you want to if you're fighting the Mahomes corner,

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Speaker 10: is you would say, look, that receiving corps last year

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Speaker 10: was not what it's been in years past as well.

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Speaker 10: But I'm with you. Look, I think it kind of

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Speaker 10: depends how you judge these things, Right. It's like, who

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Speaker 10: is the greatest quarterback? In abstract terms, Maybe Mahomes is

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Speaker 10: in that conversation, But if you're like, who do you

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Speaker 10: think is going to play the best during you know,

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Speaker 10: the next seventeen weeks of the regular season, You're probably

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Speaker 10: not picking Mahomes. You're picking Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Right, or Lamar Jackson or even Joe Burrow. Yep.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that four is interchangeable for sure. The

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Speaker 5: only problem I have with it was it was a

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Speaker 5: unanimous nine one, which is crazy to me, right, But

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna switch it to another quarterback that was actually

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Speaker 5: a Tier one guy that me and Robin have been

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Speaker 5: going back and forth about stat pad for Matthew Stafford,

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Speaker 5: and I'm not talking about his play, but his availability

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Speaker 5: his back is right now?

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Speaker 1: Is that is it going to be an issue all season?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know if it's going to be

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Speaker 10: an issue all season, but it's definitely scary if you're

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Speaker 10: a Rams fan, right, now. I mean he's at that age.

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Speaker 10: We talked about this in our show last week. You know,

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Speaker 10: people like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers have kind of

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Speaker 10: broken everybody's expectations for how quarterbacks are supposed to age.

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Speaker 10: But if you go back, you know a few years,

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Speaker 10: thirty seven used to be the age these guys were done.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, and that's where Matthew Stafford is right now.

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Speaker 10: And you know, anyone that's reached that kind of age,

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Speaker 10: you know, stuff on your body just starts to break

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Speaker 10: down on you in a way that it didn't when

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Speaker 10: you were in your twenties. So for Matthew Stafford to

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Speaker 10: be that age and dealing with a back injury, that's

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Speaker 2: If you're a RAMS fan, Yeah, no doubt I Sam Man,

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you, thanks for the knowledge, and we'll have

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Speaker 2: you on soon. Okay, you're said to Sam anytime, guys

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Speaker 2: thinking Sam Munson