1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: This is an Eater podcast coming in you shirtless, severely 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: folk bitten and in my case, underwear listening. Don't to 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: eat the podcast. You can't predict anything. Is everybody doing tonight? Good? Right? 4 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Who's um? I just want to ask now we're gonna 5 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: revisit this later, but is there we have a birthday tonight? 6 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: That many people? I'm up top two just like if 7 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: you have a birthday, just say, like, just do one noise? 8 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: Really we need we need five of you. But it 9 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: sounds like there's tons more. Um, Okay, let's do some 10 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: Let's do some introductions first, let me know, and then 11 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: when we get started, we're talking about UM. I have 12 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: a lot of anecdotes I want to share and I 13 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: talked about these last night, but we don't record it 14 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: so I could talk about him again. Is a lot 15 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: of anecdotes about you people drinking too much? Um? But 16 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: but but first, uh, well, first introductions the hospital US 17 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: from Meat Eater. My name is Jesse Griffiths. Talk her, 18 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: talk up your talk up your deal. Talk about your restaurants. Man, 19 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: I have a couple of restaurants in Austin. UM Doe 20 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: and I Dee Tacaria Jari for Austin or Army. UH 21 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: also run a business called New School of Traditional Cookery 22 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: where we incorporate the kind of culinary aspect into hunting 23 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: and fishing, offer three day trips, custom trips, stuff like that. 24 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: Also wrote a cookbook called a Field, UH Wild Game 25 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: and Fish Cookbook. All Right, Hi guys, I am Danielle. 26 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: I I Wild and Hole. So I am the girl 27 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: who cuts up hearts and tells you how to cook it. Here, everybody, 28 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: my name is Carl Malcolm. I'm the regional wildlife ecologist 29 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 1: for the Forest Service based out Albuquerque, New Mexico. And uh, 30 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: my whole career is rooted in the fact that I 31 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: love to hunt and fish. That's what motivated me to 32 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: be I'm a wildlife scientist. And this is this is 33 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: Carl's This is Carl's eight eighth appearance on the on 34 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, it's an honor, man, I appreciate it. 35 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: And Carl pointed out that not only has Johnny Casping 36 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: on this stage, but also Groucho Marks. We're walking in 37 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: the footsteps of legends. In the footsteps of legends, So 38 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna talk about but I decided not to 39 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: experience talked about it a bunch is uh the how 40 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: in Houston a woman when into uh this just happened. 41 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: A woman goes into Samoca joint. You guys know this 42 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: story in an abandoned house and there's a tiger hanging 43 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: out in there in a cage. I was like, I 44 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: would say, it's like the most Texas thing I've ever heard, 45 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: And but I got so so like, we're this guy 46 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: worked with Brodie were we were rounding up things to 47 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: like just some local flavor and Brody stumbles into this. 48 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: It's a little but is that what they mean by 49 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: high fence? That's it. It's all that Texas high fence 50 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: they're always talking about. So uh, Brody with Brody rounds 51 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: up this like it's like a roundup of game Warden 52 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: activities from around the state. And uh so game Warden 53 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: and Van zandt County two game Wardens and Van Zant 54 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: Are you from Van Zand County? If if I hit 55 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: on something, name of the people, if if you people 56 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: are in these stories, please come to the stage. So 57 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: so like you get a picture of game Warden's right 58 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: there out trying to catch poachers and stuff. These game 59 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: wards and van ZANDT County are going down the road 60 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: and they come across the vehicle stop in the middle 61 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: of the road. So they question the people and there's 62 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: a p there's a person who's too drunk to explain 63 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: where they live, which is making it hard for their 64 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 1: designated driver to get them home. The designated driver turns 65 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: out has been drinking, so the game the game warden's 66 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: arrested designated driver and the dude who can't figure out 67 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: where he lives somehow has it in him to call 68 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: another body to come pick him up. That body shows 69 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: up and he too is arrested for drinking and driving. 70 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: And so moving down. Does I want I keep messing 71 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: this up? The Z one? How do you say it? 72 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: Z County? Yeah? You guys from there? So here here. 73 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: A game warden responds to a tip about an illegal 74 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: gill net, and the Rio grande Um goes down there 75 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: on the Texas side of the river and starts pulling 76 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: out some monolfilament gill net which has been set illegally, 77 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: and by the time he's done, he has hauled in 78 00:05:54,839 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: four thousand defeat of gil Nett. Near Abilene, a game 79 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: warden sees people shooting from a truck stops him to 80 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: ask him what's going on, and they explain that they're 81 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: multitasking because one of the things they're doing is they're drinking. 82 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: One of the things they're doing is the woman her 83 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: and her boyfriend are drinking and they're teaching her son 84 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: how to drive, and they're hunting hawks a in Bear County, 85 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: which I made the mistake last that I called it 86 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Bexter County, which didn't go over well. Bear County game 87 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: wardens find a guy on social media bragging up about 88 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: how he's been doing a lot of hunting and fishing 89 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: in the San Antonio power Plant property, which is closed 90 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: to set activities, and they want to find the guy, 91 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: so they review his social media post and eventually figure 92 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: out who he is and learn that he's a UM. 93 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: He's one any probation, so they can't find him, so 94 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: they just go down and wait for him when you 95 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: need to show up for his probation court hearing, and 96 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: then arrest him. Another Texas news story, uh that's interesting 97 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: is red wolves. So red World, I'm trusting you to 98 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: know a little about this. Carl red wolves have been 99 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: declared extinct in the wild. In the wild and they've 100 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: tried captive breeding. They have on an island off of 101 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: North Carolina, they have tried some. Yeah, but there's no 102 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: red wolves alive in the wild. Yeah. And they were 103 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: just surprised to learned that on Galveston Island, the coyotes 104 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: there carry red wolf genetics. Yeah, and quite a bit 105 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: of it. Quite a bit, yes, Like to the point where, 106 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: based on the most recent genetic analyzes, they have more 107 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: similarity to the red wolves than they do to a 108 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: pure blooded coyote. Yeah. So the kind of a middle ground, 109 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: which raises some interesting questions about what defines a species. Really, 110 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: what do you think is it? Now contextans start worrying 111 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: about how they have wolves. There's that premature. Oh, there's 112 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: probably plenty of that chatter already. Learn thing again at 113 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: the second time I talked about this, but you guys 114 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: have this is this is the one. It's hard for 115 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: me to problems you know, the animal. I'm gonna say 116 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: the nil guy, Okay, right now, you also have a 117 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: problem in Texas with um cattle the cattle fever tick. 118 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: Not the tick that makes you that you can't eat meat, 119 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: but like a tick that spreads a disease cattle fever 120 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: and they can eradicate and cattle or can control and cattle. 121 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: But now the nil guy carry the tick. So they 122 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: are installing motion activated spray machines that are like trail cams, 123 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: but they blast nil guy with a solution containing nematodes 124 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: that killed the ticks. Which would be some unnerving ship 125 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: that happen to you, right to be like walking though 126 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: it was also you would it would be I would 127 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: be distressed for a minute. Well, you know when they 128 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: zapp them, you know how they zapp them, and I 129 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: haven't it. So the trick is, uh, nil guy are 130 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: very wide ranging species, like compared to a white tail deer, 131 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: they cover a ton more ground, but they congregate at 132 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: shared latrines. So they're installing these things at the shared 133 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: latrines where all the nil guy will get together and 134 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: do their business. So it's like even more unnerving. Yeah, 135 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: you show up to do your business and then end 136 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: up getting sprayed? Is that really right? Now? Now we 137 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: have two genuine Texans, have you guy's eating hunting and 138 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: eating I'm hunting, no guy? Uh, we did. We've actually 139 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: done a lot of stuff. I was just down in 140 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: the king A couple of weeks ago with had a 141 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: bunch of clients. I was cooking for clients that we're 142 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: hunting no Guy. And yeah, it's true. You'll see an 143 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: eight foot circle of no Guy ship in a road. 144 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: Do they like to mound it up? It's mostly flat. 145 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: I'd say it's like a hill or a dale of ship, 146 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, lama's like if you if 147 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: my brother keeps his lama's out in a flat like 148 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: if you keep on a flat pasture, lamas like to 149 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: any kind of little rise to get on. And they'll 150 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: ship in the same spot and build a little looking 151 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: like a little pictures mound that's like becomes substantial and 152 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: then they'll perch up on there just to get a 153 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: better look. But but the meat, the Neil Guy meat 154 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: is good. It's fantastic. Even the bigger bowls. I mean 155 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: they get huge, I mean six seven d pounds plus 156 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: not unheard of, and in my experience, even even in 157 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: the big bowls are really good to eat. What would 158 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: you compare it to, um Uh, it's maybe access deer like, 159 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: very mild, maybe less has like less of an iron 160 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: flavor than white tail, A little little bit beefy. It's really, 161 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: I mean very lean, but very very good good stuff. 162 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: We wanted to touch real quick on the Frisco coyote epidemic. 163 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: Everybody lives in Frisco. Yah Yanni's a subject matter expert 164 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: on the Frisco kyo epidemic. Break it down. Um, it 165 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: sounds like every all of you must have been bit 166 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: by a coyote in the last six months from what 167 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: I read, Um, what else I know about him? They're 168 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: chewing on small dogs, cats a lot that there was 169 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: I think even one news uh source had come up 170 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: with their own app to report kylote sidings and at 171 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: the time there was over three hundred kylotes sidings right 172 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: around Frisco and people were genuinely worried. Yeah, because like 173 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: five people right got nipped or seven seven people got bit. 174 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: Do you guys live in Frisco? Oh have you guys 175 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: been bit? No? Just so everybody's doing it? Are you 176 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: cool on that subject? Like that's that's kind of the 177 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: extent of it. Yeah, you know, It's just didn't surprise 178 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: me really when I read it. I was like, yeah, 179 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Um, we have you get something to 180 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: add you're not cooking kyots? Yeah, I'm good. I wanna 181 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: get I wanna give a quick shout out other podcast guests. 182 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: Bracey V. Hill the second is here with his friend 183 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: West Keys West Run Wild Game. Am I saying this right? 184 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: West Wild Wild Game for West Dallas. They put together 185 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: two thousand pounds of venison for protein poor neighbors. Uh, processors. 186 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: There's there's a group. There's a group called Hunters for Hungry, 187 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: So people deer hunters are bringing deer down to processors. 188 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: Hunters for Hungary. We're paying for all the processing fees. 189 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: And then they also have a group brother Bill's help 190 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: in hand and they've been teaching. Uh, they've taking some 191 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: young kids out and doing their first hunting trips. And 192 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: he's here in the crowd tonight. So I wanted to 193 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: mention that, um, he mentions. He mentions that we need 194 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: to have more dug during and I think that the 195 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: world needs more dug during. Uh quick question. Yeah, we 196 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: were with him the are night. Okay. One first, I 197 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: gotta bring up who there's some guy here Joel with 198 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: the wife who has the coolest name in the world 199 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: named Timber. You guys here, Okay. Wedding Advice wants wedding 200 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: advice what he wants us to explain, Timber, I don't 201 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: know if I'm doing this. Joel wants us to explain 202 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: that that, uh, I'm just gonna come at it that 203 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: you need to make sure that he's allowed to go 204 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: hunting all the time. He wanted us. I was I 205 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: was supposed to frame that up as some kind of 206 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: marriage be sly and frame it up with some kind 207 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: of marriage advice. But I that's just what he's getting in. 208 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: So I just I'm just gonna cut the angle for 209 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: it because it sounds like maybe he's not getting to 210 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: go enough, right or he feels that way right. No, No, 211 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: because now you're gonna make it that he's not gonna 212 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: have a good night. He No, this dude says, he says, 213 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: I go all the time. I think that he wants 214 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: to just make sure that that continues into the future. 215 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: Precedent like precedent setting, which is that's a big that's 216 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: my marriage advice. My marriage advice starts before you get married. 217 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: If I was Timber, I would even push him and 218 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: because there's just like yet to be the guy that 219 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: actually hunts three d sixty five days a year. So 220 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: I would say when it's been about eight days or 221 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: nine days in a row. If he actually hunts that much, 222 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: then when he's like, so I'm gonna sleep in tomorrow morning, 223 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: I've had that along going out at the fore and 224 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: be like, dude, get out of bed and bring home 225 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: to baking bro Like no no rest for the guy 226 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: that wants to hunt all the time, right, like get 227 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: it and just kind of see where that levels out. 228 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: He's uh, he's getting married in May, so good luck 229 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: to him. Now, Uh, digging in, We're gonna focus pretty 230 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: heavy and not like totally heavy, but pretty heavy on 231 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: wild game to nights. We have so many good cooks 232 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: up front here, we got some all the questions. We're 233 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: gonna stray a little bit. We're gonna touch on cannibalism. Um, 234 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: I wanna talk. I got I gotta, I gotta a 235 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: question about, uh, whether deer ever lose their ability to 236 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: get it up, which is for Carl. But first, no, 237 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: not like that, man. I don't mean like, I don't 238 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: mean you're gonna know because you know subject matter. I 239 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: mean like you know because it's like an animal question 240 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: that I was gonna steer your direction. But first I 241 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: want to get into this one. This is a question 242 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: that comes in that came in. It's that this is 243 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: this is a panel opportunity. What have you eaten that 244 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: you will never eat again? And how was it that 245 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: you cooked it? I can start or I can go later, 246 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter to me. You got one, I got 247 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: I got one? Um, And staying on brand, I'm a 248 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: big fan of hogs. I ate a hog once that 249 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: have been snared. And that thing been in the snare 250 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: for at least two hours by the time we got 251 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: up to her, So I mean enough that when I 252 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: walked up, she just lost all the you know, ability 253 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: to fight, just got really sad in here. She she 254 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: had just given up. But that meat was absolutely inedible. 255 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: So I hung up the hog snares after that. I 256 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: have some of those, and I look at him all 257 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: the time. I've never messled him. I mean, for eradication 258 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: would be good, but for for park chops not good. 259 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: What do you got? Yes, I don't know if anything 260 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: that really fits that bill, um, because I want to 261 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: try it again, and this might be a good segue 262 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: for you, um, but mergans are a hooded one. The 263 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: one time, yeah, the one time we tried it. It 264 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: just we we stunk out the apartment and just vowed 265 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: to never do it again. But with the skin on it, 266 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: I can't I can't remember. I doubt it. I bet 267 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: we just took the breasts out, but you don't mind 268 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: golden eye. No. I just remember this was a long 269 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: time ago. It's probably close to two decades ago, and 270 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: I remember it being pretty pretty fishy fish the thing 271 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: I made. It's kind of like what I made is 272 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: like it's intertwined with the how you cooked it. But 273 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: I I and I wrote about this my first book, 274 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: and I was remember just how kind of off putting 275 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: it was. Was kidney pudding with Elk kidney, but it 276 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: was from old Elk and the fact that like when 277 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: you're you're you're eating it and it really, honestly it's 278 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: like eating like solidified piss me. And it was just 279 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: like such a letdown. You know, you're an okay, what's that? 280 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: You're an okke? It was like a you're an o cake. 281 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: It's like sophy things. Yeah, it'd be like if you 282 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: cook that. I've not even one, but it was, yeah, 283 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: it was like you know, and you cook it and 284 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: it kind of rises that has like a soux fleysh 285 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: kind of thing. But man, it was not a good 286 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: dish kidney pudding. You ever got burned on a dish? Yeah, yeah, Um, 287 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: this is actually really embarrassing. But in my early days 288 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: of cooking wild game, actually probably my first experience ever 289 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: processing butchering a deer. It was it was a gift 290 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: given to us by a friend who had a manager 291 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: manager's ranch and he quartered a deer. And I was like, 292 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: we're going to process this whole thing ourselves. And what 293 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: should have taken like hours was like days because I 294 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: thought all I knew was like get all the silver 295 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: skin off. So I'm like breaking down the shanks like 296 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: I'm going crazy. So like days, this meat has been 297 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: in the cool or and I don't know that you 298 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: should drain the water out and keep fresh ice in. 299 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: So it's like nicely marinating in this cooler for way 300 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: too long. Yeah. And so I have all the bones left, 301 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, I'm gonna make a stock. 302 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm just this. I was just like hot shot in 303 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: the kitchen at this point in time. So I start 304 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: making the stock. I roast, I wake up early, roast 305 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: the bones like it's just I got this nice pot going, 306 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: and I realized it smells really bad. I'm thinking to myself, well, 307 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: it's just gamey, right, that's just like venison. I'd never 308 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: really worked with venison before. Like it just gave me 309 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: it'll get better, just keep cooking it. Like it's all 310 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: on the stove for hours. And then Travis, that's my husband, 311 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 1: Travis comes home and he busts the door open and 312 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: he yells at me like, why are you making a 313 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: European mountain the house? Like do that outside? Like yeah, 314 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, this is not right. This 315 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: is so I threw it out so I didn't try it. 316 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: But the worst thing, so yeah, so I didn't even 317 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: taste it. Tried it was like it was like death 318 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: in the house. It was so so bad. Um. But 319 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: the worst thing I actually ate was a tons of 320 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: swan that had been in a zip block back or 321 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: not even like a zip block. Freeze is just like 322 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: a little baggy in the back of someone's freezer for 323 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: a couple of years. I had like a nice freezer burn, 324 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: like it's a ton of swan, wasn't you know bad enough? 325 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: It was laying around so we so we chats went 326 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: on a hunt with a buddy and the Pothole region. 327 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: This was up in North Dakota, not not Texas, up 328 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: in the Pothole region and they were they were diver 329 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: dock hunting and they see some swans come by and 330 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: so yell, who ha hoo ha. They turned around. So 331 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: he gets his swan and I actually wanted it mounted, 332 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: and I didn't, but I wanted to eat it. So 333 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: his friends like, oh, I have some in the freezer. 334 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: You can mount that and I'll give you give you 335 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: this one. So I'm like, oh, that's so sweet, thank you, 336 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Yeah. Good, it was, Yeah, it was. 337 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: It was terrible. You got carl something in China. I 338 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: ate some bad stuff in China, for sure. But the yeah, 339 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: the thousand in your egg? No boy, no? Um oh 340 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: did you have you eaten that? Deal? The embryonic you 341 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about? You ever eat those? They 342 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: let a duck egg blue? Yeah, I've eaten that, my 343 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: god man. That fits into the category. But the thing 344 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: that came to mind first of all is stuff that 345 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: I now love eating, but at the time had no 346 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: idea how to handle it. And so I've been thinking Lee, 347 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: you know, like anybody out there, grab a copy of 348 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: the new UH Fish and Game Cookbook where it is 349 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: so So the reason that that's cool is I think 350 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: about being like a thirteen year old um squirrel hunter 351 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: who loved hunting squirrels and didn't know what the heck 352 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: to do with them really, um, and how it would 353 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: it would just be a different ball game today to 354 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: have the videos, the cookbooks and have all that at 355 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: your disposal as a new hunter. But to answer your question, 356 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: when I was learning how to hunt, we'd do these 357 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: like Daniel Boone Davy Crockett adventures where we'd go camping 358 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: in the woods behind our house and we'd catch trout, 359 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: we'd pick mushrooms, we'd hunt squirrels and grouse and pretty 360 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: much whatever hunting success we had, we'd build a fire 361 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: skin out whatever critter it was, and just like hold 362 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: it in the fire and so you'd get this like 363 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: black crisp ext and bite in and it would be 364 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: like cool to the touch on your teeth and you'd 365 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: be like pulling meat off, like I must really like hunting. 366 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: So I'm done with that, Like I'm doing all kinds 367 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: of you know, like squirrel now is the bomb. But 368 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: it's because I've learned how to do it, and you 369 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: know that that's one of the things about having these 370 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: resources at your fingertips now like we were we were 371 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: jumping on YouTube or jumping on your smartphone, is like, 372 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: here's the dead squirrel. I'm gonna build a fire and 373 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: hold it in there and it's gonna be awful. That's like, 374 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: like like a long time ago, that was wild. Game 375 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: cooking was so weird because the obten think like the 376 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: the impact of phones you don't even really think about 377 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: is that you used to if you're going to meet 378 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: your friends, you guys have all had to pick a bar, 379 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: and no one could leave the bar to go to 380 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: a different bar because you wouldn't be able to find 381 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: each other. Right you had, like pre phones, everything was different, man, 382 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: it was hard to find people. You're starting to sound 383 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: like an old man. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, Like, 384 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: if you remember, it was like you it was very 385 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: difficult to like locate your bodies. You could lose track 386 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: of your bodies without phones. But also you couldn't look 387 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: up how to cook stuff. So we would just know 388 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: that people ate something like we knew. I remember the 389 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: first time we tried to cook a deer tongue, and uh, 390 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: we just knew that it was a thing one could do, 391 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: but we didn't have access to even the idea that 392 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: the skin is supposed to come off. So we boil 393 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: those suns, bitches, and try to chew on them, and 394 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: boil them and try to chew on them because and 395 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: now you just would very quickly just realize, you know, 396 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: but we were just in like trying to figure out 397 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: how to cook beaver tails. When you have it's just 398 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: a thing. You know, it happens, but you don't know 399 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: how to do it, and there's no you can't convey 400 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: the information unless you stumbled across some weird old cookbooks somewhere. 401 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: You just had no way of knowing. Now everybody knows everything. 402 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: Now when people don't know how to do something that 403 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: kind of looked down on them a little bit, it's like, 404 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: just look it up, man um. A dish guy asked 405 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: about Oh no, the first time I get to this car, 406 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: I got two works. We're gonna use you up right now. Okay, 407 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 1: two questions, Which one do you want first? The grizzly 408 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: bear one or the the penile erectile dysfunction in dear one. Okay, 409 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: a guy wants to know because here's here's where this 410 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: is coming from. Here's what this is coming from. There's 411 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: a guy, I can't remember what stayed he's in. There's 412 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: a guy and he hunts a property and there's a 413 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: really old deer and the landoors like, don't mess with that, 414 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: dear ever. But he's wondered, is it ever? Because he 415 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: thinks he wants this old deer that's got big alwers 416 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: to breed and make more dear And he's wondering, is like, 417 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: do dear get the hit the autumn of their life? Right? 418 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: Like dudes? Who there's a long period of a dude's 419 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: life when he's not breeding anything, even if he wanted to. So, dude, 420 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: does that? Is that known? Like does a dear age 421 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: out or do they stay viable till the bitter end? 422 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: They do not age out? They and nor do the 423 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: females for that matter. And if you think about so, 424 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: there's this there's this myth right of like the old 425 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: dry old dry dough and there there have been numerous 426 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: research papers. Um A dear biologist by the name of 427 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: Glenn Delgads did a great study up in Minnesota where 428 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: he was looking at fecundity, the ability and and UH 429 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: basically rates of pregnancy and number of offspring across different 430 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: age classes of females, and it just keeps ticking up. 431 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: Like older doughs tend to be more fertile than younger doughs. 432 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: But fertility rates are very high in females, and given 433 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: the complexity of what the female reproductive system has to 434 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: do compared to the male reproductive system, there's a lot 435 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: more um that you know can go wrong essentially in 436 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: terms of having um those years of fertility. That's why 437 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: you know a woman has a relatively narrow period of 438 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: fertility compared to a man um But in dear, if 439 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: you think about the fact that they have this narrow 440 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: breeding season, and you think about the fact that you 441 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: know most of these bucks are dying um from sources 442 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: of mortality other than aging out, the likelihood of any 443 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: individual deer getting to the point where they're not performing reproductively, 444 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: it's just not going to happen. The exception would be 445 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: if a deer experiences some kind of an injury like 446 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: people have probably heard of the term like cactus bucks. 447 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: Bucks that will get some damage that they'll injure their testicles. 448 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: Those sorts of things you better explaining to cactus book. 449 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: So cactus buck would be um a deer that essentially 450 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: keeps growing layers of velvet that are never shed and 451 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: the growth, like the antler cycle, UM is controlled by 452 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: sex hormones testosterone. The seasonality of UM of breeding is 453 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: what is linked to antler growth. So post breeding season, 454 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: when the testos strong levels start to drop, that's when 455 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: the antlers would fall off. But in a in a 456 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: deer that has experienced an injury to its testicles UM 457 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: or perhaps has undistended testicles, uh, they'll just keep growing 458 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: layers of velvet potentially on their antlers and get these 459 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: really funky antler configurations and sometimes just carry velvet antlers 460 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: for a long time. But there is an example. I 461 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: have to know what you just said that makes sense. 462 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: There is an example, thanks man. There is an example 463 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: of erectile dysfunction in the wildlife Kingdom though that I 464 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: think would be of interest to people. So polychlorinated bi 465 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: phenals PCBs are precipitating out of the atmosphere near the poles, 466 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: and this is having a disproportionate effect on animals that 467 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: are at the top of the food chain and as 468 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: you go north, we're talking polar bears here, and there 469 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: was a research paper published recently about the fact that 470 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: these e cbs have the potential telling you is not 471 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: in your water bottle. Well, there's a few things they're 472 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: telling you are not in the bottle. But yeah, there 473 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: there are estrogenic substances and some plastics that they're they're 474 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: really worried about with when it comes to drinking water. 475 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: But PCBs are a byproduct of um manufacturing processes. So 476 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: the problem is they can weaken skeletal tissue bones, including 477 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: in polar bears, like they're detecting weakening of polar bear bones, 478 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: and polar bears are one of the species that have 479 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: a very unique bone vaculum, the vaculum, so there is 480 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: concerned that PCBs have the potential to weaken the penis 481 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: bones of polar bears to the point that polar bear 482 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: males could be predisposed to breaking their penile bones, thereby 483 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: experiencing high rates of what would effectively be erectile dysfunction 484 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: and further compromising their their state, which is you know, 485 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: being driven by climate change. A host of other factors. 486 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: But in the world of e d in the animal kingdom, 487 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: that's the best I can do for you. That's good though, 488 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: that's good. I want to give an excellent answer. I 489 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: can't decide if we should give no. I'm gonna ask 490 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: you that on one I got my my other wildlife 491 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: question when I can't I have a good sense of 492 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: what it is, but I can't figure out so we 493 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: all know. Like when you look at European contact, we had, 494 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, mountain lions coast to coast, top to bottom. 495 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: We had wolves coast to coast, top to bottom. Why 496 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: was it that the grizzly bear never colonized the Eastern US? 497 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: What kept the grizzly bear stuck at around the big 498 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: bend of the Missouri River. You want a real short answer, 499 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: short the short The short answer is habitat open country. 500 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: Open country is the grizzlies preferred habitat. And if you'll 501 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: allow just a couple additional details, if you go back 502 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: in the evolutionary tree, you have a common ancestor about 503 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: a million years ago that was shared by black bears 504 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: and brown bears. And at that point in time you 505 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: had the differentiation where due in part to the habitat 506 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: provided by the glaciers receding. You had all this open country, 507 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: and you had some of the bears specialized in hunting 508 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: and living in that open country, and some of the 509 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: bears specialized in occupying the forested habitats. And that difference 510 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: in their habitat preference has driven so much about the morphology, 511 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: the behavior, the level of AGGRESSI shan, the reproduction, everything 512 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: about the life histories of brown bears versus black bears 513 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: is driven by black bears being specialized to occupy densely 514 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: forested habitats. Yeah, Like the quick example would be the 515 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: short hooked claws that allow a black bear to climb 516 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: a tree, and the grizzlies long claws, which are great 517 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: for digging but make him incapable of climbing a tree. 518 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: But there's so many more cool details than that the 519 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: more you start to think about it, and and furthermore, 520 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: that specialization for open country and and just being able 521 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: to hunt the wide open and be very protective and 522 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: territorial over your offspring um and being just like a 523 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: bad mofo kind of bear extended even further when the 524 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: grizzly differentiated into the polar bear later on in its evolution. 525 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: So if you think about the extreme example of that 526 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: open country, untreated environment, the polar bears like the extreme 527 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: version of that, and that's a relatively recent split in 528 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: the phylogenetic tree. But everything about reproduction, Like American black bears, 529 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: their offsprings stay with them for the first year and 530 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: a half. Why is that, Well, a year and a 531 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: half old American black bear can flee up a tree 532 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: if it encounters danger, in contrast to a grizzly bear, 533 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: where the offspring stay with the mother for two and 534 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: a half years, And that's thought to be in large 535 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: part because they remain so dependent on their mother for 536 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: protection that if they were to split at a year 537 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: and a half, they end up getting smoked by another bear. 538 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: They can't get away. They can't get away, So yeah, 539 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: they're you know, there are places obviously we could we 540 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: could come up with a list of all the places 541 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: where brown bears and black bears coexist, where they overlap, 542 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: where you've got some forested habitat, but that's always going 543 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: to be a place where you've got forested conditions for 544 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: the black bear and proximity to open country for the 545 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: brown bear, so the brown bear is an open, open 546 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: country species compared to the black bear. Good. Uh, I 547 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: want to move on to um we talked on this now. 548 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: Now want to move on to cannibalism real quick. A 549 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: guy rolled in and he was talking about his body. 550 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: He's talking about a guy, so does a guy saying 551 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: that another guy is going to get LiPo suction, and 552 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: he's wondering, can you use the fat for anything? And 553 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: you remember that that in fight Yeah, I was gonna 554 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: talk in fight club like. Part of the plot is 555 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: that they're using human fat to make soap. And a dude, 556 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: a dude once sent me. I don't know if you 557 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: guys done this. A dude sent me fat that he's 558 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: been making with black bear soap. Sorry, sent me soap 559 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: made out of black bear fat. It's that really about cannibalism. 560 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: But have you guys messed with this at all? Like 561 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: making your own any kind of soaps out of fat? 562 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: Bear fat, dear fat. I've never made it, but we 563 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: actually have to restaurant. We sell soap made out of 564 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: a wild board fat. Really it works pretty good, I 565 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: mean makes you clean feeling. Come over here, come over 566 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: and check it out. Um yeah, we havey we talked 567 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: about this that you've you've the only guy in all 568 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: that has you kind of cannibalized kind of Yeah, because 569 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: you've eaten human tattoo. Yeah, it says cannibal Yeah, you've 570 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: eaten human placenta. And you've drank oh yeah, you've drank 571 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: mother's milk, drank human milk. Well, a lot of us 572 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: have drank human milk. You're drinking human No, no, yeah, 573 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: you're right, you know what. That's a good point, man, 574 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: But I mean, like that's a really good point. But 575 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: he drank it as a grown up. And then start 576 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: you start to think about, yeah, but most of us 577 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: who have consumed milk, it's from our own mother. But 578 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: then there are all these examples in a lot of cultures, 579 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: including you know, in some communities in America where it's 580 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: commonplace for babies to be passed around to various slack 581 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: dating moms and whose milk it is of the deal. 582 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: And then you start thinking about the milk banks, or 583 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: you have mom a giving mom bee's kid milk and 584 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: milks just like flowing all over them. Yeah, my wife 585 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: would give out frozen sacks of milk and friends of 586 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: hers four babies. Though, what do you guys get for 587 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: a what do you get for a bar hawks? So 588 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: it's like seven nine dollars, I think, Yeah, it's pretty 589 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: nice stuff. Yeah, it's got Jennifer Barries in it. It's 590 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: it's really nice. Good cover set too. If you're having pigs. Uh, 591 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: you have an experience with this making this making no. 592 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: I thought about doing something with the deer fat because 593 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: it's so waxy. I was like, that could seal a 594 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: lot of things up. Yeah, we used to steal boots 595 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: with deer fat. We would take deer fat and man, 596 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: it makes your boots stink man, but we would Yeah, 597 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: we would just melt dear fat down and rub it 598 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: into the rub it into the leather. Nice to have 599 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: a buddy who this guy named Layton with Glenda and 600 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: he would um, he would take bear fat and pine 601 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 1: pitch and bees wax and make his own triple blend 602 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: boot stuff. The hard thing to get was the bees. 603 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: Like he would track the bees to their hive and 604 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: then take a chainsaw and root out all the you know, 605 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: root out the bees wax and make the boot stuff. Um, 606 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: that was kind of his scene. Now, Uh, we want 607 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: to touch on because We're gonna talk about Davy Crockett 608 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: for a minute, because can you explain Daniel what you 609 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: were telling me about what he might be credited with? 610 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: No, no no, I was I was trying to tell you 611 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: that it was a lie. Oh the Hush Puppies was 612 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: a lie. Yeah, yeah, she fooled you. You did fool 613 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: me because we're gonna play again. We're gonna play a lie. 614 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: And so that was trying out a lie. Oh is 615 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: it a good one? But was it true about the 616 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: bear killing the Daniel? But allegedly he wrote that he 617 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: killed a hundred and five bears in Tennessee bars hundred 618 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 1: and five and seven months, and I think either forty 619 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: two or forty seven. I think seven was in one month. 620 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, because Boone claimed Daniel Boone and like people 621 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: lump in Davy Crockett Daniel Boom but different dudes different times, 622 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 1: like not the same guy, Daniel boone thousand times cooler 623 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: than Davy Crockett, which is offensive to Texas. Are you 624 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: guys listen, are you guys aware are you are you 625 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: guys aware that it is rumored? Right? Are you guys 626 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: aware that it's rumored the Crockett I hope his family's 627 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: not here. The Crockett did not go down in a 628 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: blaze of glory. I said, it's it's rumored that you're 629 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: familiar with this. I mean, we've seen the footage. He 630 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: tossed that torch into the gunpowder room, and he he 631 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: took out like a hundred of Mexican soldiers and he 632 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: shot Saint Anna's hat off of his head at a 633 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: thousand yards. You've seen the photos, and but you are 634 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: you aware of the myth like the competing the competing 635 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: legends about Crockett. No, a journal just okay, a disputed 636 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: a hotly contestant. You're gonna have a fake I was 637 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 1: telling your honest this story, and I got the story 638 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: all wrong, but then we looked up the true version 639 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: was a hotly contest a journal. You look like you're agitated. 640 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to speak for everybody here. Carry on 641 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: a hotly contested journal, like the veracity of the journal 642 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 1: has been called into question. But there's a journal that exists. 643 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: I think it sits here in Texas. I think it 644 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: sits in the state capital or something. You guys don't 645 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: every but you guys already know all this and it 646 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: was that at the end of the Smoke clears, the 647 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 1: smoke clears at the Alamo, and Crockett had surrendered. It 648 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: was was executed, and he didn't he didn't go. He didn't. 649 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: You know, I don't have an act. I don't have 650 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: a dog in the fight here. I'm just saying that 651 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: this is a contested thing. And dany All got to 652 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: tell me how Davy Crockett invented the hush puppy. But 653 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: it was which I thought was true. I can't believe you. 654 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,439 Speaker 1: I can't believe you. I don't know why I thought 655 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: it was true. Uh I thought that. But but but 656 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: like bot so you know, we have like Boone and 657 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: Crockett like they've been stuck in our heads together, Boone 658 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: and Crockett. Boone claims to have I wrote it down here. 659 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: I've quote us a thousand times if I don't want 660 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: to mess it up. Boone claimed he killed when he 661 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: was hunting bears for the bacon market and the lard market. 662 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: He killed one and fifty five in a single fall, 663 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: and once killed eleven before breakfast. Hunting with hounds, they 664 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: would get I think like a buck a gallon for 665 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: bear fat, and they would cure the hams they would 666 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: make They would tap maples for sugar. They would go 667 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: to salt licks and boil down the water to make salt, 668 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 1: and it would make their own salt sugar. Brian. They 669 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: would Brian the bear meat and barrels, make their own 670 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: small house, smoke it, and then haul it on keel 671 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: boats to be sold. And it's plausible that, like, and 672 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: this is contemporaneous with Benjamin Franklin, So it's like plausible 673 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: that Ben Franklin ate some you know, bear meat from 674 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: some long haired wild man out running around Brian and 675 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: bear meat. But you imagine hundred and fifty five in 676 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 1: a single season. And we were talking about like all 677 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 1: these animals that used to exist across continent and we 678 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 1: kind of like whittle them down to next to nothing. 679 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: That's the kind of feller that did some woodland. Yeah, 680 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: and you think about how cool they are, but you 681 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 1: also think, like what is their sense of um? Like 682 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 1: like give me the numbers on Crockett, Like what is 683 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: their sense of enough? That's like timbers dude, he hunts 684 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: that much. He could probably killpoy seven. Yeah, President is 685 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: um um Okay, I want to move on there's a 686 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: guy I think he's here tonight. He is here tonight. 687 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: His name is Stephen, pH Stephen. He has a great 688 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: sentence in his letter. My name is Stephen. I'm a 689 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: big fan and a lazy Texas hunter. He goes He 690 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: goes on to talk about and this, this is good. 691 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to this, but I'm curious. 692 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: Everybody's all hot on um hot pots? What do you 693 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: call insta pots? But he's like, why is it when 694 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: you make something? If you cook game in an insta pot, 695 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: it just is never as good as if you slow 696 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: cooking straight up. I want to think about that while 697 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: I make sure that this is what he's saying. Is 698 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: that sound right? Are you here? You're you're buying like 699 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing a good job with your question. Is that 700 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: yes or no? Good? Okay? Yeah, So he's saying, what's 701 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: up with insta pots? I've never messed with the insta pot. 702 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: I do have an electric pressure cooker, but it's not 703 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: called that. I would I would just get I mean, 704 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: there's really no substitution for time, especially when you're breaking 705 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: down silver, you know, getting marrow out of bones. You 706 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: need that collagen and gelatine conversion. You need that just 707 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: that texture, that flavor that's going to develop over time, 708 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: and it's you know, microwave is not going to do 709 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: it in some fancy instapot contraption is probably not gonna 710 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: do it either, I think one of the biggest issues. 711 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: So I started looking into the differences between electric versus 712 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: manual and the biggest thing with instapot is like obviously convenient. 713 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: So you kind of like, I've never actually used one, 714 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: but I've read through recipes and instructions from instapat and 715 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: you put the meat in there and it's supposed to 716 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: brown and sear the meat, and then you add your 717 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: liquids and everything, and there's just it's just steaming. You 718 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: don't get that like mired reaction of brown, like a 719 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: true brown in your meat. You're just steaming it. And 720 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: so you really lose a lot of rich flavors by 721 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: doing that. And plus, like he was saying, like, you 722 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 1: don't have time on your side either. Well I was 723 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 1: thinking too, it's like the there's no escape of water, right, right, 724 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,919 Speaker 1: so there's no reduction happening. Well, because it's pressurized. The 725 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: theory or I guess science behind it is that it 726 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: has nowhere to go, so it goes back inside the 727 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: meat with all that pressure in there. So I mean, 728 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: I use a manual pressure cooker quite a bit and 729 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: I like it a lot, but it's it's it is 730 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: not the same as say brazen in the oven. It's 731 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: it's not the same result. But that's you're using it 732 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: for convenience factors. So when you're working and you have 733 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: a busy schedule and you want some thy meats to 734 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: be really tender and a really fast time, it's convenient, 735 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,479 Speaker 1: but you just aren't going to get the same depth 736 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: of flavor a few were to slowly do it. No oven, 737 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 1: we're croc pot for that matter. I mean, I'm a 738 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: big fan of browning something in a pan transferred to 739 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: the croc let it go for six eight hours, however 740 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: long it needs, but you get the same kind of thing. 741 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: But you just I think you just have to have 742 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 1: that time in there. And like you're saying, the browning 743 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: process so important, go ahead, available everywhere. I feel like 744 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 1: I even get two separate results between croc pot and 745 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,359 Speaker 1: say Dutch oven inside the oven. Would you agree with 746 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: that as well? And and how fun and why that 747 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: is you can have more radiant heat from the metal 748 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: versus just kind of that light am beyond heat from 749 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 1: the croc pod. I think, you know, metal is just 750 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 1: going to conduct a lot more. I mean, Dutch ovens 751 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,439 Speaker 1: are amazing too. I'm a big fan. Yeah, I think. 752 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: And plus it's just cast iron. It's just more authentic 753 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: and sometimes your brain just wants that. Yeah, right, So 754 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: might be a little bit of pl evil. I think 755 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: that cook in a Dutch oven in the ovens the best. 756 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: What else gives you that? Like that like caramel coating 757 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: that's a real bitch to clean off. You see that, man, 758 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: you know you've made something you don't. Might suggestion on 759 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: the insta pots would be like cooking, like cooking stock 760 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 1: in there, like a really good stock that you pour 761 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: in there, because then you're sort of giving you're taking 762 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 1: time earned from somewhere else in applying it. Yeah, I 763 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,839 Speaker 1: would say, if you're going to use an insta pot 764 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: or any even a press or a croc pot, brown, 765 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:43,359 Speaker 1: it's separately on the pan first always, and then combine everything. Yeah, 766 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, is like that's not like a 767 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:53,879 Speaker 1: real like sans representatives. You close the lid on that 768 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,919 Speaker 1: and you're steaming it. You're not letting any of that 769 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: moisture evaporates. You lose, you can need let off. But 770 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: here's the well, I don't want to get in a 771 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,280 Speaker 1: big fight. We already got in a fight about Davy Crockett. 772 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: But the one like I have one that's not that 773 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: brand and it's a deep ass thing and it's like 774 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: it's searing in there is not the same. Still not see, 775 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: still not saying, Okay, I want to move on one 776 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: thing real quick here. No this is not quick. This 777 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: is a long one. Um. I'm going out of my 778 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: own order. You are, Jesse. You've been described as a 779 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,720 Speaker 1: did you did you describe yourself as an adult? Onset? 780 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: Late on set? What happened? Well, I fished all my life. 781 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 1: I mean I grew up in Denton, which is just 782 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 1: north of here. Um here go uh, And yeah, I'd 783 00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:01,280 Speaker 1: fished like Gray Roberts growing up. I was actually remember 784 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: when they when they filled that reservoir. Uh. And just 785 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: came to hunting later on in life. And I worked 786 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,399 Speaker 1: in restaurants, um, since I was legally old enough to work, 787 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 1: And then I learned to butcher first and then went 788 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,399 Speaker 1: into hunting. After I learned how to butcher animals, Like 789 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: you hold it back up, so you, um, you started 790 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: working to restaurants really young six doing what washing dishes 791 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: and whatnot. Everything I've washed dishes, bartoon and wait tables, 792 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: working the kitchen and what got you? So what was 793 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: the what was the butchering? The move into butchering? What 794 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 1: looked like I just, you know, eventually became a butcher 795 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 1: at a restaurant and we were getting whole animals in 796 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: This is almost about eighteen years ago, and back when 797 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: people were just starting to get back into whole animal 798 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,720 Speaker 1: butchery and this restaurant I was working and started bringing 799 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: in hogs and lamb and we just learned to cut them. 800 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: And then after that I was able to kind of 801 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 1: make a pretty you know, easy segue into hunting because 802 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: the back end of it was super familiar to me. Uh, 803 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,839 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of obviously allowed to learn 804 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: on the front end of it. But what was your 805 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: what was your awareness? You grew up in Texas, so 806 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: there's like there's a huge hunting culture in Texas. What 807 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: was your awareness of hunting and what were your perceptions? 808 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 1: You have an opinion about it? You didn't have an 809 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: opinion about it. I was always curious about it. But 810 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: my family, you know, I'm only child, My dad didn't huh. 811 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: But like I said, we fished constantly, and so I 812 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: just had to get out there and learning myself, and 813 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, finally did and then it just it took. 814 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: And then there was something to do in the winter, 815 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, besides fishing in the warmer months, and so 816 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: now I find myself constantly occupied. So yeah, and then uh, 817 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 1: you so eventually got to where you cook a lot 818 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: of game and restaurants and in your in your own places. 819 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: Talk about like the path because I think a lot 820 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: of people around the country. People here are familiar with it, 821 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: but a lot of people around the country are really 822 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 1: surprised to hear that that, like, actual wild pigs make 823 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: their way into the restaurant orld. Yeah, it's a complicated process. 824 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: I mean we get I mean all the time people 825 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: somebody roll up to the restaurant and knock on the 826 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: back door and be like, hey, I got a pig 827 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 1: out here, and I'm like, no, or you can't, so 828 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: you don't touch that. Yes, no, totally illegal. I mean 829 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: it has to be inspected, so all the hogs that 830 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: we get in are trapped. They're trapped mostly out in 831 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,919 Speaker 1: the hill country. Uh. And then they're they're brought into 832 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 1: a license processor in a in a trailer and then 833 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 1: he kills them. They get there, they're inspected before they're killed. 834 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 1: They expected after they killed and blue stamped. They got 835 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: a nice little Texas symbol on them stamped and then 836 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: brought to us from there. But that pig could have 837 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,959 Speaker 1: trick and nouls as no one, no one testsed for that, right. Sure, 838 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: we're so cond a domestic pig. I mean it's highly unlikely, 839 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 1: highly unlikely, Yeah, but it is. Uh. I mean there's 840 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: swine russellosis, sooner rabies to laremia, there's a host of 841 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 1: things that they are from hosts of UM. So we 842 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: we keep our eye on it. Texas Animal Health Commission, 843 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 1: you know, kind of updates everyone on cases. And then 844 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty rare to see anything come from the 845 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 1: Ferrell hawks, although they can be vectors for a lot 846 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 1: of different diseases. Yeah. Over the trick nosis cases in 847 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: this country come from BlackBerry meat. Yeah. I remember in 848 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 1: Alaska they had a guy that got it from walrus, 849 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 1: which really surprised me. Then you guys also so you 850 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: do venison too. But that's the weird that's the weird one. 851 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: I when I wanted to ask you about, I told 852 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask about it would be if if 853 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 1: you say, if you have a restaurant and sells wild game, right, 854 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: people have an idea what that is, and when you 855 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: sell wild pigs, that conforms to wild game. Where here's 856 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 1: this animal that no one has any control over, its 857 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 1: leads its own destiny, right, just kind of does his 858 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: own thing, cruises around out the woods. But with when 859 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 1: you sell the venison, that's not like that's like a 860 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 1: farm animal. It's not necessarily Um, a lot of them 861 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 1: will come off really large ranches, have a ton of 862 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: acreage and they trap them. Bulk of what we sell 863 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: is nilgai and so those are actually completely wild animals 864 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: coming from the coast and so they go in there 865 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 1: they catch them with netguns, like shooting nets over them, 866 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 1: big trap stuff like that. No ship really so a 867 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: lot of what we serve and that so that can 868 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 1: wind up in the restaurant tree. Yeah, well there's there's 869 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: some inspection processes. Since they're they're not swine, they've followed 870 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 1: in a different status and so they aren't just highly regulated. 871 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 1: And so there's even a wild game company here that 872 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: sends an inspector out in the field and they shoot deer, 873 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: but they mean non native so access psycha uh foul 874 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 1: deer things like that. We say psych I mean like 875 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: you're talking like the sika deer, a little elk like deer. Yeah, 876 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,359 Speaker 1: the white tail is never on your men. We never 877 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 1: served white tail. So these are uh, typically gonna be 878 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 1: deer that are you know, proliferated on a on a ranch. 879 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,320 Speaker 1: So granted it's a high fence, but typically very large 880 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 1: and they are trapped. But for the most part, my 881 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: big thing is diet. So they are living wild. They're 882 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: not in a pen. They're living wild, and they're eating 883 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: mostly a wild diet. Now they're probably hitting a corn 884 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 1: feeder here and there, but I mean versus any wild 885 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 1: deer in the state, it's probably about the same. So 886 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 1: I also think that they are invasive um in a way, 887 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,839 Speaker 1: and it's it's the best thing that we can do 888 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 1: while falling under the parameters of the law. And you 889 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 1: guys don't So you guys don't sell deer coming out 890 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 1: of New Zealand we don't sell I don't mean that matter. 891 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 1: We don't sell any product, any fresh products that doesn't 892 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 1: I mean has to come from Texas. Oh that's interesting, man, 893 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: I had no I had no idea that that I 894 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,800 Speaker 1: was playing on the bust of your balls. Sorry, but 895 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 1: I don't even get a chance. Really, So that's what 896 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 1: it is. So people, you're getting like a pretty legit 897 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,439 Speaker 1: wild game experience. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, like the tac 898 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: area we were using all no guy there, so that 899 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: is that's a wild animal. All the sausage we do 900 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: at the brick and mortar um is no guy. And 901 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 1: then when we get in a whole carcass, you know, 902 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: it's you know, we never know what we're gonna get. 903 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: It's my guy calls me and he's like, hey, we 904 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 1: got a couple of red deer in the trap. That's 905 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 1: that's that's Uh, this might be proprietary info, but can 906 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 1: you tell me what you're cut of fat too? How 907 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 1: much fat you cut into making a like a your 908 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:58,839 Speaker 1: average sausage. I mean it probably varies here and there. Yeah, 909 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 1: what what give me money? I want to provide I 910 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:14,839 Speaker 1: want to provide good information for tonight's audience. So what are. 911 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,919 Speaker 1: So you've got hunting background, you've got chef background, and 912 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: and and very earlier we're talking about like pre um 913 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 1: like back when it's harder to get information than it 914 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: is now. I feel that there used to be like 915 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: growing up hunting, we just had like certain ways we 916 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: cooked everything, and then you later learned that you had 917 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: like people in the culinary world and chefs and things, 918 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 1: and they had their way of doing stuff, but the 919 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 1: communication didn't. There wasn't like an exchange of communication like 920 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 1: if you were if you were a rural person eating 921 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 1: wild game, Um, you probably cooked it like how your 922 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 1: grandma cooked it, and they probably cooked it how their 923 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: grandma cooked it, and you didn't have this big exchange 924 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: between the colon ary world, you know, the professional culinary 925 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 1: world and rural wild game people. And now there's more freedom, right, 926 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: I think you'd agree with that. There's a lot more 927 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: just exchange of ideas. Like for instance, you know, last 928 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 1: time I had dinner at Carl's, we'll talk about what 929 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 1: we had last time I had dinner at your house 930 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 1: the last time you were there. We uh, we capitalized 931 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 1: on some technology that I had imported from my time 932 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 1: in China, where one of my favorite dishes was with 933 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 1: the Chinese called huagua, which translates basically in a hot pot, 934 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,919 Speaker 1: and you'll sit around a table with a big hole 935 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: in the middle and it will hold a cauldron of 936 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: boiling broth with all kinds of spices. And it's really 937 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 1: social thing because everybody's gathered around with chopsticks and dipping 938 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 1: in like all manner of fish and meat and eggs 939 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:57,439 Speaker 1: and uh coagulated blood and all manner of mushrooms and aromatics. Yeah, 940 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,479 Speaker 1: it's like a fond kind of deal um. And so 941 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, I was gonna have Steve and you honest 942 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: Fami a visit. And when you're hosting these jokers at 943 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 1: your house for dinner, you don't want to be pulling 944 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 1: out like a package of Ballpark Frank's and slapping him 945 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 1: on the girl. Not that you guys wouldn't like ballpark, 946 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 1: but I was like, what could I do that would 947 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 1: be creative? So we did this menagerie of wild fishing 948 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: game from all over New Mexico. We had what we 949 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 1: had walleye, yep, we had walleye. We had uh pronghorn 950 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: heart turkey, wild turkey, giblets um. There was some elk 951 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 1: we had, you know, just like whatever was in the freezer, 952 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: and it was a you know, fun way to spend 953 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 1: an ete, like with seasoning packets from China. Yeah, put 954 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 1: into the thing. So yeah, Like the point being that 955 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 1: there's this exchange. Now. So if you imagine your position 956 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 1: where you've you've got a foot in the hunting world 957 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 1: and you've got a foot in the like the technical 958 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 1: culinary world, what are the what are the things? What 959 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 1: are the misconceptions? Is about wild pigs that you find 960 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 1: like when you talk like the hunters have their own 961 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 1: ideas about like what's edible not edible, what's good not good? 962 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 1: Where does that contradict what you found from the professional 963 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 1: kitchen the wild pigs specifically sure man or or whatever 964 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: you want to get into. I think in general, I 965 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 1: mean just the collective consciousness has shifted so much and 966 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 1: you can speak to this a lot. I mean that's 967 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 1: what you do is communicate food to people that are 968 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 1: increasingly way more interested in and that part of it, 969 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean they're starting to recognize that dead animal on 970 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 1: the ground, You're you're halfway done with with this job, 971 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: and then and there's more enjoyment to not you know, 972 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 1: just slap some Italian dressing on it anymore and rapid vacant, 973 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 1: although you can't. And when I when I was a kid, 974 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 1: it was cream and mushroom suit in a crock pot. 975 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 1: But I mean, I think people are just just see 976 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: so much more excitement about it now and more curiosity. 977 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: People are willing to try different things, and they're they're 978 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 1: just they're being more adventurous and they're they're wanting to 979 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: get more out of of that that part of all 980 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,439 Speaker 1: that work they're going out there to do. I think 981 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: with with hogs, we we experienced a lot of myth 982 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 1: and people a lot of misconceptions. You know, like I've 983 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: been told that, you know, hundred twenty pounds is the 984 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 1: biggest hog that you can eat, so like a hundred 985 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 1: nineteens just but hundred and one gut pile material And 986 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,560 Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense to me. I mean I've 987 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: had I've had a three hundred pound bore that was amazing, 988 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 1: um and you're not gonna believe that. But I mean, 989 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: trust me on this. I mean, and I think that 990 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean, my my my mission is to just give 991 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 1: people to eat more pigs. I mean, they're invasive. They're 992 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 1: tearing up land that you know, we you know, there's 993 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean there's people that don't have enough food out there, 994 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 1: like this gentleman that's working so hard to feed them, 995 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 1: and it's just like we're shooting piles of pigs and 996 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 1: leaving them to lie and feel. And I think that 997 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,640 Speaker 1: if we can get out there and educate and show 998 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 1: people that these pigs can be delicious. I'm not saying 999 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 1: they're all stunning. There's some of them that are stinky. 1000 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 1: And I've experienced that. So there are there like there 1001 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 1: are stinky pigs. I mean I've I've had like I've 1002 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 1: shot pigs that I thought we're way better than other pigs. 1003 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 1: Up shot, what do you think is going on with 1004 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 1: a bet? What's a bad pig? Well, I mean go 1005 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 1: back anecdotally to my snare story. Um, you know, stress 1006 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 1: is a big one. It's like the bigger the pig, 1007 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 1: the harder is to bring down, the longer it runs, 1008 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 1: the more to adrenalize, is less lactic acids build up 1009 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 1: in the muscles. The tougher it can be. The game 1010 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 1: here it can be. Um, diet is a huge one. 1011 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: We kill pigs in South Texas, which aren't nearly as 1012 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: good as the pigs that we kill and lock harder. 1013 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 1: Maybe in the you know, East Texas where you have 1014 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 1: four kinds of oaks, or you know, in places where 1015 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,920 Speaker 1: theres lots of pecans and oaks and diet. Diet forms 1016 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 1: a big part of that equation. Um. But I think 1017 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 1: that just convincing people to give them more of a chance, 1018 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 1: have some different cuts, try the ribs, try more slow 1019 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 1: cooking on them, you know, like really break them down. 1020 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 1: Get adventurous, I mean, or just or maybe not an 1021 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 1: adventurous is the right word. I think a lot of times, 1022 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,919 Speaker 1: you know, when you see a recipe that's like this, 1023 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, nine hours to V project and it's got 1024 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 1: a lingonberry glaze on it, and you need a shifting 1025 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 1: out of fresh mint and you need to find galongel 1026 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 1: to finally mention put on top, you're gonna be like, 1027 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 1: there's no way. But if I was like, why don't 1028 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 1: you make a sloppy joe out of it, You're gonna 1029 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,919 Speaker 1: do that and it's gonna be amazing. And I think 1030 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 1: that's I mean, I think that's the way that you 1031 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 1: communicate to people is you you put it in a 1032 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:45,240 Speaker 1: context that you know, they first off, can recognize how 1033 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 1: to make it in second recognize how it should taste. 1034 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: Is it true? I've heard it so many times like that, 1035 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 1: people say that a wet, wet sound is like the 1036 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 1: best why I'll pig to eat because it's you don't 1037 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. I mean, pregnant sotule hasn't 1038 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 1: had him yet, but that's the one you want to eat? 1039 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 1: Or is that just like another myth? Or is that true? No? 1040 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 1: I was in a blind. I was guiding a guy 1041 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 1: the other day in a blind that we're one of 1042 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 1: our hunting schools, and two styles walked out. One was pregnant, 1043 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 1: one was nursing, and I was like, shoots, pregnant one 1044 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 1: because you think it's better meat. Yeah, the fats staying 1045 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 1: instead of going out, So you just and fat is 1046 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: what you want in in hogs. It's just it's all 1047 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 1: about fat. Can you um? What's up with agent hog meat? 1048 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: Is it not not worth it? But we're in a 1049 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,680 Speaker 1: warm climate, so I mean if you have the you know, 1050 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 1: the walk in cooler that's got a lot of moving 1051 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: air in it, then by all means you can try it. 1052 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: I think that it's risky. Um, it can be done. 1053 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: But I think that in a really cold and dry environment, 1054 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 1: you're looking at up to about ten days with a hog. 1055 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 1: But like if you're talking about like aging, like people 1056 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 1: are dealing with beef, you know, pushing sixty days stuff 1057 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,439 Speaker 1: like that, and people are doing with pork domestic pork 1058 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 1: as well. Right now, I'm I think that you're you'd 1059 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 1: be better at choosing a different battle. Um. Yeah, I 1060 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: think let them get through rigor mortis and then cut 1061 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 1: them at your earliest convenience. So you're like the hog proselytizer. 1062 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 1: But let me ask you this though, This is the 1063 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 1: question I always asked people that, Like, so you guys 1064 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 1: enjoy this great red or not great. You enjoy this 1065 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,160 Speaker 1: resource and you have as much of it as you want, 1066 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 1: and and the animal becomes like really interwoven into the culture. 1067 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 1: So like like the pig has become you know, almost 1068 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:46,800 Speaker 1: like synonymous with taxas hunting culture. But the reason it's 1069 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 1: like gloves off on pigs, it's because they're non native 1070 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 1: and problematic. I always always ask pig hunters this. It's 1071 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 1: like if I gave you a magic wand right, and 1072 01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 1: I said, if you shake this wand it'll be done. 1073 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 1: The pigs will be gone. So so not that you're 1074 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:16,160 Speaker 1: not that far you wouldn't shake the one. No, I 1075 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 1: get in trouble with my friends at parks in wildlife too, 1076 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, I can't shake that one. Um, I 1077 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 1: mean the control Yes, I mean we have them in 1078 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 1: East Austin now, like in the city limits. Um, there's 1079 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean they're they're a rampant problem. And I have 1080 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,880 Speaker 1: friends that are farmers and they want to shake that 1081 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,640 Speaker 1: one too, and I think that we need to find 1082 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 1: So you do feel that there are people in Texas 1083 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 1: who would shake the magic one? Yeah? You a shaker 1084 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 1: or not shaker, Carl you because you have an obligation 1085 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,920 Speaker 1: to American wildlife, you have to shake it. I would 1086 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 1: really yep, you gotta find a note door out of 1087 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 1: here to But you know, I can understand the sentiment 1088 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 1: behind not wanting to shake it. I mean I I can. 1089 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,920 Speaker 1: I can understand how a species that you have interacted 1090 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 1: with and it's fed your family and you've spent all 1091 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,680 Speaker 1: this time learning about and you know, breaking them down 1092 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,800 Speaker 1: and cooking them like over time. I can completely understand 1093 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 1: and appreciate the kind of relationship that people would feel 1094 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:23,439 Speaker 1: towards that animal. And so I'm not I'm not dismissing that, 1095 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 1: but from an ecological perspective, I would absolutely shake that one. Really, 1096 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 1: would you shake it? I'm staying out of it. Would 1097 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 1: you shake the one? I feel like I'm supposed to 1098 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 1: say yes, but I probably wouldn't. You probably wouldn't shake 1099 01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 1: them one. You know, we were in in in Chestpeake 1100 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 1: Bay and the East Shore and there's a fish there, 1101 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:48,880 Speaker 1: a snakehead. You guys have snakeheads here, like a non 1102 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 1: native fish, and at first the snakeheads hit the water 1103 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, oh my god, snakeheads are gonna kill 1104 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 1: us all as the end of the world. Snakeheads. Now 1105 01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:01,439 Speaker 1: you see dudes with like snakehead decals. It wasn't even 1106 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,040 Speaker 1: that many years snake head decals in their truck window. 1107 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 1: Where we have this wait, Like I think that humans 1108 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,960 Speaker 1: are so pragmatic where we have this thing. It's like 1109 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 1: here it is, it's good to eat. You know, when 1110 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,519 Speaker 1: life gives you lemons, right, you make lemonade. And we 1111 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:24,960 Speaker 1: kind of are like really quick to adopt stuff, the 1112 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,679 Speaker 1: non native stuff. There are like most of the places 1113 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,640 Speaker 1: we hunt turkeys. Turkeys aren't native there, that's right, and 1114 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,040 Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't shake the stick on that, would know. 1115 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't shake the stick on those poor birds. Yeah, 1116 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,880 Speaker 1: but there's a very there's a there's an important differentiation. 1117 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 1: I want to touch real quick. Uh, we're talking about chapass. 1118 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:49,200 Speaker 1: Like an episode or two ago, you guys threw the 1119 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 1: chap ass like what's another word for it, chafing, chafing, 1120 01:08:54,840 --> 01:09:00,720 Speaker 1: but the best swamp Yeah, swamp ass we got, man 1121 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,560 Speaker 1: like it was the number one probably the number no 1122 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 1: the things that we get written about's heart. It's probably 1123 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,799 Speaker 1: number one people who are number one long term people 1124 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 1: diagnosing your honest's heart. Um. We had a question not 1125 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,680 Speaker 1: long ago where someone was. It was that a lot. 1126 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: It was in Sacramento. A guy was asking. He was like, man, 1127 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 1: I want to ask this, but I don't want my 1128 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,600 Speaker 1: wife to know. And he wrote in and he was 1129 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 1: saying that if you got, say you got a rabbit 1130 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:37,960 Speaker 1: that after gutting the rabbit, why does one's flatulence smell 1131 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:44,960 Speaker 1: exactly like the gutted rabbit that got an enormous amount 1132 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,600 Speaker 1: of things. One guy wrote in and he described the 1133 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 1: phenomenon called deja peu, which is which is like this 1134 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,799 Speaker 1: guy worked in like a for a corner or something, 1135 01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,479 Speaker 1: and he was saying that he thinks there are little 1136 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:03,280 Speaker 1: that that there's like volatile fatty acids, when when you 1137 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 1: smell something foul, there's volatile fatty acids, and that somehow 1138 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 1: they get in your nose hairs. This just and he 1139 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 1: was saying that you get when you smell an offensive 1140 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,759 Speaker 1: smell later it could carry a trace of that, giving 1141 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,599 Speaker 1: one the sense sense of deja peu, which I don't 1142 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,880 Speaker 1: suffer from. But on the chap ass thing too, really 1143 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 1: interesting pieces of feedback wonders all these products that people 1144 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,680 Speaker 1: have that that solve chap ass. But one guy was 1145 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,360 Speaker 1: saying he was with a guy one time that gut 1146 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 1: chap ass so bad that he couldn't walk. It was 1147 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,840 Speaker 1: that bad. And he took his sandwich apart and took 1148 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 1: a piece of bologney out of it inlaid that piece 1149 01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,439 Speaker 1: of bologney between the cheeks in order to hike out. 1150 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:57,639 Speaker 1: Another guy has Another guy writes in that the way 1151 01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:02,559 Speaker 1: to cure it this most interesting concoction he's taken. He's like, oh, bro, 1152 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 1: I know about this. He likes to mix neo sporn 1153 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:14,400 Speaker 1: with oragel like the tooth the tooth numbing agent. And 1154 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:18,920 Speaker 1: he's like, that's how you take care of that problem, 1155 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 1: which I love. But I want to move on and 1156 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:25,439 Speaker 1: I just want to touch on that. I want to 1157 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,599 Speaker 1: move on to another subject that this this came in 1158 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 1: and I already know my answer because I've done this before. 1159 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,040 Speaker 1: But he he, it's a guy. I can't. It goes 1160 01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,720 Speaker 1: something like I didn't write down as main details that 1161 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,479 Speaker 1: should have. But there's a like a guy and he's 1162 01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:43,600 Speaker 1: got a girlfriend and they live with a roommate. His 1163 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 1: girlfriend needs wild game. The roommate won't eat wild game, 1164 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,760 Speaker 1: just like for eats meat won't eat wild game. What 1165 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 1: are the ethics of just lying and giving them the 1166 01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 1: wild games? And what do you guys think about it? 1167 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 1: Go for it? Yeah, that's totally fine. Yeah, Yeah, I 1168 01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 1: got nothing against I don't feel like I'm doing him 1169 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 1: a disservice or lying to him. They're gonna come out 1170 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,479 Speaker 1: of it, you know, something bad is gonna happen. They're 1171 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 1: gonna have a negative effect, you know, from eating a 1172 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 1: while game. I tricked him to eat. Yeah, like the 1173 01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:29,920 Speaker 1: guy that did the Yeah, we talked about the guy 1174 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 1: that was serving kangaroo meeting school kids without telling them. 1175 01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,760 Speaker 1: But but that guy lost his job. Yeah, that's a 1176 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,679 Speaker 1: little different than just checking your roommate a little bit. 1177 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,559 Speaker 1: Would you pull a fast one, Carl, I would say 1178 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,320 Speaker 1: it depends, honestly. So I mean, on the one hand, 1179 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we've all had roommates, right and if your 1180 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: your roommate is like eating some food that you've provided 1181 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,639 Speaker 1: to some extent, it's like you're lucky that you're getting 1182 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,919 Speaker 1: some food from me, right there. So there's that dynamic 1183 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,760 Speaker 1: um and and I think there's like an important distinction 1184 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 1: to Yanni's point about whether there's potential for the food 1185 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:11,080 Speaker 1: to have uh like a negative outcome. So I'm I'm 1186 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,040 Speaker 1: sitting here thinking about like the example of all these 1187 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,960 Speaker 1: people that have been exposed to CWD positive dear meat 1188 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 1: for example. So I would say, if you're talking about 1189 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,080 Speaker 1: like sharing a a roast from a deer that you 1190 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 1: know is healthy, that's one thing. If you're sharing some 1191 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 1: kind of funky like brain dish and you're like, hey, 1192 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,439 Speaker 1: try this out, and then after the fact you're telling 1193 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 1: them what it is, or if you're sharing meat from 1194 01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 1: an animal that you're not sure like CWD status, I 1195 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,760 Speaker 1: would say, there's kind of some gray area there. But 1196 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 1: if it comes to just like you're making some food 1197 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,760 Speaker 1: and they want to eat it, but it's contingent upon 1198 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,200 Speaker 1: whether or not it's wild game, I'd be like, have it, 1199 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 1: tell me if you like it? And I mean and 1200 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,120 Speaker 1: I and I wouldn't I wouldn't lose sleep. Yeah, I 1201 01:13:55,160 --> 01:14:00,000 Speaker 1: think I would. Did you give him house cat meat? Uh? 1202 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:01,880 Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying. That's why it becomes 1203 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,000 Speaker 1: really tricky, because how do you draw? Because well, the 1204 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,920 Speaker 1: reason we're all doing this, I believe is because we're 1205 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 1: hoping that it results in like the lights getting turned 1206 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,719 Speaker 1: off and they're like, oh my god, that was dear, 1207 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 1: that was awesome, I please, I'd like to eat some 1208 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,679 Speaker 1: more now, right like that, that's why you're going through 1209 01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,080 Speaker 1: that process. So I kind of did this the other 1210 01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:26,639 Speaker 1: day now because you're like, yeah, not the cat, not 1211 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,360 Speaker 1: the cat, Like where is that cat? Anyway? But so 1212 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:33,839 Speaker 1: I've been I've been accumulating. I've been accumulating undulate tongues 1213 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 1: for the last few years in my freezer, and I 1214 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,719 Speaker 1: got to the point where I had a moose tongue 1215 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:44,200 Speaker 1: a deer tongue, a prong horn tongue, all in the bag. 1216 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 1: I thought these things out. I cook him for eight 1217 01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,439 Speaker 1: hours in the slow cooker, and my mom is living 1218 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 1: with us right now. My mom comes out in the kitchen. 1219 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,280 Speaker 1: I've got these things on the cutting board. She's like, 1220 01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,960 Speaker 1: what do you have there? I'm like, don't worry about it. 1221 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm making a dish here, Like, let 1222 01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,600 Speaker 1: me make the dish. She's like, are those mushrooms of 1223 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,640 Speaker 1: some kind? I'm like, no, like, let me let me 1224 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 1: do this. She's like, what is it is that? I say, 1225 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,720 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's food. I'm cooking. Hold back, let 1226 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,880 Speaker 1: me do this. And I end up making tacos still 1227 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:21,680 Speaker 1: angua with these tongues, and they turned out fantastic, and 1228 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 1: I serve them to my mom. I serve them to 1229 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,280 Speaker 1: my wife, serving to my daughter. My mom is like, 1230 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:30,599 Speaker 1: these are the best tacos I've had in years. These 1231 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,800 Speaker 1: are the best. And then a couple hours later, my 1232 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,360 Speaker 1: wife and my mom are standing in the kitchen. My 1233 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,200 Speaker 1: mom's like, what what the hell were those things you 1234 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:38,880 Speaker 1: were cutting up the other day in the kitchen? Let 1235 01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,519 Speaker 1: you know, yesterday in the kitchen and you know, I 1236 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,799 Speaker 1: was acting kind of shifty and my wife's like, what's 1237 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,439 Speaker 1: she talking about? And I said, well, that was what 1238 01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 1: we had for tacos. And then my wife gets real nervous, right, 1239 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,360 Speaker 1: She's like, what do you feed this? So I say 1240 01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:55,640 Speaker 1: those were tongues and my mom's like, oh no, And 1241 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, what you said? Those were the best tacos 1242 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,559 Speaker 1: you've had in years. So that's an example where it's like, 1243 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,760 Speaker 1: I know that meat is totally safe. I know there's 1244 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 1: no good reason. And my mom is very pragmatic and 1245 01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,679 Speaker 1: she's the one who's always told me, if you're gonna 1246 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,840 Speaker 1: kill it, eat it. That was like the golden rule. 1247 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,280 Speaker 1: So I'm asking my mom, then, would you rather that 1248 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 1: I left this tongue in the woods with the gut 1249 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,599 Speaker 1: pile when I brought out all that meat, or would 1250 01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,280 Speaker 1: you rather put it to use to make the best 1251 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,400 Speaker 1: tacos you've had in a couple of years. Yeah, you're 1252 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,880 Speaker 1: helping me clarify my perspective on it, my perspective on 1253 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,679 Speaker 1: this because I've done exactly that. I gave my mother 1254 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:35,720 Speaker 1: in law tongue like cold chilled, cubed, cured tongue in 1255 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:40,040 Speaker 1: a salad and she later said that ham was so good. Yeah, 1256 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:44,680 Speaker 1: but here's the deal. It wasn't like I'm I I 1257 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,639 Speaker 1: would totally I don't feel the need to tell people 1258 01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,479 Speaker 1: what it is they're eating. But if I know that 1259 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,920 Speaker 1: someone is like, I don't eat X, I don't think 1260 01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:58,040 Speaker 1: it's ethical to trick them into eating what they say 1261 01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 1: they don't want to eat. And I don't know that 1262 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,040 Speaker 1: it's your business to tell them that their reason is writing. 1263 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 1: I agree with that. That's where I draw the line 1264 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,599 Speaker 1: a little bit, because if someone had like a religious 1265 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:12,840 Speaker 1: dietary prohibition, I wouldn't then feed them yes and be 1266 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,200 Speaker 1: like nah, huh, yeah, now that's messed up. You know 1267 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:21,320 Speaker 1: for sure? Have you got any perspective to offer. I've 1268 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:28,080 Speaker 1: done it before, you've done diver ducks. Yeah. That if 1269 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 1: it was like a person who eats meat and they're like, oh, 1270 01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:32,960 Speaker 1: I don't eat diver ducks, I would totally screw with 1271 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:37,760 Speaker 1: that person's gumbo. And I don't even think they knew 1272 01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,960 Speaker 1: it was duck. There's like they knew it was something wild, 1273 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,080 Speaker 1: but they're like, oh, well that's wild game, but it's good. 1274 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,040 Speaker 1: I think they thought it was venison and the eating 1275 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,599 Speaker 1: is fine. Everybody's fine. I don't remember if I told 1276 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:56,040 Speaker 1: them or not. I mean, we carried on with the night. 1277 01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:01,559 Speaker 1: Nobody was like, what was that mean? Nobody? This is 1278 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,240 Speaker 1: somewhat related, and I'll explain where it gets related in 1279 01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,800 Speaker 1: a minute here. But there's another thing I've been like, 1280 01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,080 Speaker 1: saving up emails some people that are all kind of 1281 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:14,080 Speaker 1: the same thing where this is gonna not seem related, 1282 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,160 Speaker 1: but trust me, I'm gonna make it related. They all 1283 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:19,320 Speaker 1: seem like not the same thing. I'm sorry, saving up 1284 01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,479 Speaker 1: emails and people asking the same thing would be like 1285 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:27,519 Speaker 1: if you kill an animal and it's been injured, or 1286 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,280 Speaker 1: oftentimes they'll be like I found an animal with an infection, 1287 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,600 Speaker 1: or it had a broad head in it and was 1288 01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:38,280 Speaker 1: had an injury. Is it safe to eat? Enough work. 1289 01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,200 Speaker 1: We even had a guy right in and he later 1290 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,040 Speaker 1: we talked about this and then he wrote back into 1291 01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,320 Speaker 1: clarify his point. But he one time hung a deer 1292 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 1: up some kind of I can't remember what the hell 1293 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,960 Speaker 1: was a raccoon or something nod on the muzzle of 1294 01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 1: the deer, and then he was like, is it safe 1295 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:56,240 Speaker 1: to eat? So like, where do you personally draw the 1296 01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:00,919 Speaker 1: line at which something that's messed up is not safety. 1297 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean we were told, you know, well, it's uh, 1298 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,080 Speaker 1: shotgun pellets, stuff out of out of hogs. I've seen, 1299 01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,519 Speaker 1: you know, rice breasts and ducks. The rice breast is 1300 01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,000 Speaker 1: that's trash, you know, it's it's too much. It's a 1301 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,960 Speaker 1: pretty general infection. But I think that that's just all 1302 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,080 Speaker 1: kinds of cysts, like the meats packed of cysts. I mean, 1303 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 1: I think that like, if it's a pretty generalized, a cute, 1304 01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, injury, and you can cut it out, uh, 1305 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,120 Speaker 1: then it's fine. I mean, considering that you also just 1306 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,720 Speaker 1: shot a hundred fifty grains are lead through it. It's 1307 01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:45,880 Speaker 1: got another injury now, and it's there's there's dirt and 1308 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,639 Speaker 1: blood and bone and everything, and you're gonna just happily 1309 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,360 Speaker 1: kind of cut around all that and all that hydrostatic 1310 01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:56,200 Speaker 1: trauma and kind of make that palatable paddle, palatable looking 1311 01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,080 Speaker 1: piece of meat. I think that a small injury that 1312 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:02,799 Speaker 1: doesn't indicate like anything worse. If the animal wasn't acting, 1313 01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, like super sick, then I think it's okay, 1314 01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:12,160 Speaker 1: but you might go better. I have discarded entire legs 1315 01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,040 Speaker 1: because of injuries and infections at one time had a 1316 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:21,559 Speaker 1: turkey that musta its whole breast was shot because it 1317 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,639 Speaker 1: had must have pitched into a tree but impaled itself 1318 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:31,240 Speaker 1: with a stick, and it was just horrible and ditch that. 1319 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 1: So I'm not like, I'm not just like eating sacks 1320 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,840 Speaker 1: of pus out of stuff, but it is a thing 1321 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 1: that like comes into people's minds, but I can never 1322 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,519 Speaker 1: think of it. I've never thought of a thing where 1323 01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:43,840 Speaker 1: you would have like an injury would somehow make something 1324 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:49,120 Speaker 1: inedible and get you sick. When we had the like 1325 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,240 Speaker 1: the bear that gave we had the bear that gave 1326 01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:57,479 Speaker 1: me and Jana's tricking nosis. I had to send some 1327 01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,800 Speaker 1: to the c d C for testing, but I still 1328 01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:03,360 Speaker 1: had most to bear meat. And I smoked one of 1329 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,600 Speaker 1: the bear hams, so we got sick off it. And 1330 01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,320 Speaker 1: we knew that this thing had eight hundred and sixty 1331 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:14,879 Speaker 1: eight larva per Graham and my brother I had signed 1332 01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:19,000 Speaker 1: up to bring a dish to pass to my brother's 1333 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,240 Speaker 1: rehearsal dinner for his wedding, and I was like, I'm 1334 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,120 Speaker 1: gonna bring the smoke bear him. And then I'm like, man, 1335 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,040 Speaker 1: you know the smoke bear him I was gonna bring. 1336 01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,400 Speaker 1: Turns out and I told him about what was wrong 1337 01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:36,840 Speaker 1: with it, and he said, well, don't tell anybody, and 1338 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,639 Speaker 1: I thought, I was like, I can't not tell him. 1339 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,040 Speaker 1: I have to tell him. He's then if you're gonna 1340 01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,720 Speaker 1: tell him, don't bring it, because the minute you tell 1341 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 1: him that this has all this larva living in it, 1342 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:55,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna make all the other food suspect. Like, no 1343 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,000 Speaker 1: one's gonna trust anything you say at that point. So 1344 01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:03,160 Speaker 1: in that case, I again was un was incapable of 1345 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,960 Speaker 1: doing like the lie even though I cooked at the 1346 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:11,960 Speaker 1: hundred sixty degrees. You did the right thing, you think. 1347 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,479 Speaker 1: So I feel in some way like I chickened out. 1348 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:25,400 Speaker 1: Give me what's going on? Oh, the zombie deer? Do 1349 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:30,240 Speaker 1: you want to get into the zombie deer? Okay, a 1350 01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:35,640 Speaker 1: quick pole? Quick, let's do a quick pole now that 1351 01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,720 Speaker 1: we know. Okay, for a while it came out. For 1352 01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:41,840 Speaker 1: a while, everyone was all hot and bothered about this 1353 01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:45,559 Speaker 1: piece of research. That's some that some researchers in Canada 1354 01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:51,040 Speaker 1: had taken McCaw monkey. That's how you say that word, maccaque, 1355 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,439 Speaker 1: maccaque monkeys. So some researchers in Canada said, oh, we 1356 01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:59,320 Speaker 1: gave some maccaque monkeys c w D infected meat and 1357 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:05,240 Speaker 1: the monkey's contracted c w D. Turns out that's not true. 1358 01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,000 Speaker 1: It was they never they didn't publish it, it wasn't 1359 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,519 Speaker 1: peer reviewed. When the National Institute for Health looked into it, 1360 01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,160 Speaker 1: that didn't happen. How you messed that up, I'll never understand. 1361 01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,479 Speaker 1: But it wasn't true, but it really got people excited. 1362 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,439 Speaker 1: Another case where someone was doing a fundraiser, I think 1363 01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,840 Speaker 1: it was at a firebarn, like a fire department fundraiser. 1364 01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,759 Speaker 1: They serve c w accidentally serves c w D infected 1365 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:33,000 Speaker 1: meat to two people. This is seven years ago. I 1366 01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,439 Speaker 1: believe roughly seven years ago. Eight seven of those people 1367 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 1: have agreed to be monitored. They've been monitoring them since. 1368 01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:48,599 Speaker 1: Nothing yet there's no known case. There's no known case 1369 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:54,479 Speaker 1: of a human contracting c w D. So the question 1370 01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:59,920 Speaker 1: two things, two points. But there are man let's get 1371 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:04,840 Speaker 1: this is such a sticky subject. There are people who 1372 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,679 Speaker 1: remain like I imagine most of you, people who remain 1373 01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:12,479 Speaker 1: like I definitely want to know more. I'm not gonna 1374 01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,400 Speaker 1: get hysterical, but I want to. I think that we 1375 01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,599 Speaker 1: should the scientific Commune. I think we should be investing 1376 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:22,559 Speaker 1: money to learn more about possible transmission. Then there are 1377 01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,680 Speaker 1: people who have already made up their minds. There's no 1378 01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,360 Speaker 1: risk whatsoever. If I want to go to my buddy 1379 01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,679 Speaker 1: Doug's place, he lives in the c w D area, 1380 01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,479 Speaker 1: and I want to get meat from like ten c 1381 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,880 Speaker 1: w D positive deer, and I want to gouge out 1382 01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,320 Speaker 1: some of their spinal cord, and I want to take 1383 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,719 Speaker 1: some of their glands, and I want to make burger 1384 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:46,200 Speaker 1: out of it. And then I'm gonna make patties. And 1385 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,240 Speaker 1: when I meet a total c w D denier, I 1386 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,640 Speaker 1: will cook that burger and I will lay it on 1387 01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,479 Speaker 1: his plate. And if that's some of bitch eats that burger, 1388 01:24:54,720 --> 01:25:00,000 Speaker 1: I'll be like, now let's talk. Like if they has its, 1389 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,640 Speaker 1: then I'm like, we're in the same boat, brother, Like 1390 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:08,400 Speaker 1: that burger makes me nervous. So never mind the burger, 1391 01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,920 Speaker 1: and never mind a blend of twenty whatever. If you 1392 01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 1: had it, you get a deer, it comes back c 1393 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:18,800 Speaker 1: w D positive. Would you eat the deer? Not not 1394 01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:22,760 Speaker 1: eating it? Not eating it? No, No, I'm not gonna 1395 01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:28,880 Speaker 1: eat it. No, I don't know. It's sit in my 1396 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:33,599 Speaker 1: freezer for a long time. Yeah, that's a good point. 1397 01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:39,759 Speaker 1: No it's not. No, don't eat it. No, that's the answer. 1398 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:44,160 Speaker 1: The answer is no, don't eat it. It sucks. It sucks. 1399 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,040 Speaker 1: I have to toss that deer. I feel that, like 1400 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,559 Speaker 1: I'll put I'm going middle ground. No, No, there's no 1401 01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,640 Speaker 1: way I'll give it. I would not give it to 1402 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:57,000 Speaker 1: my kids, but I would have a very very difficult 1403 01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,559 Speaker 1: time discarding it. Maybe I would just keep it my 1404 01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:05,599 Speaker 1: freezer and look at it. Just serve your modeler in law. Yeah, 1405 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:14,240 Speaker 1: I like, and here's your dear me not. Oh that's horrible. Yeah, 1406 01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,600 Speaker 1: we wouldn't do that, Cindy, we love you. No, I 1407 01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:20,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. It's is scary. There's a couple uh 1408 01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,599 Speaker 1: newsy things I wanted to get into, but like a 1409 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,600 Speaker 1: couple of hot button issues, but this is gonna be 1410 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:31,000 Speaker 1: the one that it terrifies me. I don't worry about 1411 01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:37,880 Speaker 1: I don't worry about the resource impact, meaning I don't 1412 01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,400 Speaker 1: worry about I'm not I'm not like keeping up at 1413 01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,080 Speaker 1: night about reduced deer numbers from c from c w D. 1414 01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:47,519 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about. It's terrible that that happens. Like here, 1415 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:51,200 Speaker 1: here's what I'm saying. If somehow, some omnisction all knowing 1416 01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:56,040 Speaker 1: being could come and say c w D cannot and 1417 01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,720 Speaker 1: will not be transmitted to humans. I I really, I 1418 01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:03,240 Speaker 1: would never given another thought. I would kind of lose 1419 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,400 Speaker 1: interest in it. Like there are people who are like, well, 1420 01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 1: what's it gonna mean for deer numbers? Like I don't. 1421 01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:09,840 Speaker 1: I just feel like it'll it'll just join the list 1422 01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:11,840 Speaker 1: of all the other damn diseases that sweep through deer 1423 01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:13,760 Speaker 1: herds now and in a wipe them out and then 1424 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:18,559 Speaker 1: nick come back. But the food that the idea of 1425 01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:25,200 Speaker 1: hunters getting sick from venison is is just upsetting, gut 1426 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:29,879 Speaker 1: wrenching thought. The coolest thing in the world becoming somehow 1427 01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:36,160 Speaker 1: not cool is a heartbreaker. And I don't know at 1428 01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:37,680 Speaker 1: this point, I don't know that anyone who can really 1429 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,679 Speaker 1: say anymore than that. I would add that it's happened. 1430 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 1: It's happened. We haven't had the confirmed case of a 1431 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:49,160 Speaker 1: person contracting CWD from eating and infected deer in thousands 1432 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:53,160 Speaker 1: of people of eating it, but we have had already 1433 01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,439 Speaker 1: the culture around deer being compromised by the existence of 1434 01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,920 Speaker 1: that disease. And I you know, I'm speaking about this 1435 01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:04,920 Speaker 1: from the standpoint of a guy who was in grad 1436 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:08,960 Speaker 1: school in Madison, Wisconsin, shortly after it was discovered in 1437 01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:13,679 Speaker 1: southwest Wisconsin, and watching the way just my own circle 1438 01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:17,040 Speaker 1: of friends over the course of the last ten years, 1439 01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,639 Speaker 1: the way that our conversation says have evolved around deer 1440 01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:24,920 Speaker 1: hunting um in that part of the state. Those impacts 1441 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 1: are already occurring. It's it's changed, you know, if you 1442 01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:33,479 Speaker 1: if you're thinking about where do I want to spend 1443 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:37,760 Speaker 1: my precious time away from work when I've got a 1444 01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,760 Speaker 1: couple of weeks of leave time to spend over the 1445 01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:41,799 Speaker 1: course of the year, and I want to fill my freezer, 1446 01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,360 Speaker 1: I want to travel and hunting an area that I 1447 01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,320 Speaker 1: know and love and have hunted a lot, but has 1448 01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,759 Speaker 1: cw deer tohnt to maybe try to find another spot 1449 01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,280 Speaker 1: to hunt, And it makes it real hard to want 1450 01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 1: to go back and hunting an area where you might 1451 01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,559 Speaker 1: you know, you've got a coin toss as to whether 1452 01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:57,760 Speaker 1: or not the deer you kill is going to be 1453 01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:59,360 Speaker 1: able to be something you can feed to your family. 1454 01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:05,439 Speaker 1: So if you look at all the culture around the activity, 1455 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:10,360 Speaker 1: the landownership, it's just a it's a very real, um, 1456 01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:13,599 Speaker 1: very sad state of affairs. And even if we don't 1457 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,080 Speaker 1: have that example of a person getting sick from it, 1458 01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,600 Speaker 1: just the risk of that, I think is already compromising 1459 01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:22,479 Speaker 1: the hunting culture. And it frustrates. It's entered your head. Oh, 1460 01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,360 Speaker 1: it's entered my head. And and and to see the 1461 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:28,920 Speaker 1: inaction that has persisted frustrates the hell out of me. Man. 1462 01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:35,680 Speaker 1: I think now exactly half the states States Texas not right, 1463 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:37,439 Speaker 1: you know, States, we have right, but you do have 1464 01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:42,679 Speaker 1: it now. It's pretty. It's pretty. Uh is a little 1465 01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,120 Speaker 1: more than okay, But I mean it's like I feel 1466 01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:46,880 Speaker 1: like it was like twenty four and then two more 1467 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:52,360 Speaker 1: this year somewhere around there in Texas has something. There's 1468 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:56,240 Speaker 1: a small quarantine area in Bandera, south of San Antonio, 1469 01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:00,799 Speaker 1: and then in West Texas, sixty six can armed in Texas. 1470 01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,600 Speaker 1: You know everyone in here who would eat a c 1471 01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:11,799 Speaker 1: w D positive deer, that's a good one. Say, yep, 1472 01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,240 Speaker 1: there's there's five, there's five in here. They would eat 1473 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,720 Speaker 1: your burger. No you got okay? No not no, not 1474 01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:23,360 Speaker 1: my crazy spinal cord burger. But just like my lift 1475 01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:27,920 Speaker 1: note burger. Uh, it's just okay. Like I'm like, I'm 1476 01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,920 Speaker 1: honestly curious. So if you would just a nice calm yep, 1477 01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:36,479 Speaker 1: like if you would eat a c W depositive deer. Okay, 1478 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:41,120 Speaker 1: if you would not, well you're not you're not doing 1479 01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:45,080 Speaker 1: the nice clean yep. Oh I hate it. I don't 1480 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:55,160 Speaker 1: want to like. I don't man procedure. What's that? What's 1481 01:30:55,200 --> 01:31:01,040 Speaker 1: that mean? I'm not familiar with the parlor mentory procedure. Oh, 1482 01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:04,240 Speaker 1: parliamentary procedure. Oh you know real quick? Did you know 1483 01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,559 Speaker 1: that I was reading the guy? Was a guy rolled 1484 01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:11,240 Speaker 1: in saying that um eradicating pigs as part of the 1485 01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:16,040 Speaker 1: E used New World Order domination plan. No, I did 1486 01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,599 Speaker 1: not hear that, dude. It was a fast he laid 1487 01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:22,120 Speaker 1: out a very fascinating case. We're gonna move real quick. 1488 01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:23,960 Speaker 1: So now we didn't do how are we gonna pick 1489 01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:34,200 Speaker 1: our person that we vested up? We're gonna play. We're 1490 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:37,360 Speaker 1: gonna play seeing through the bullshit where someone has to 1491 01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:42,000 Speaker 1: come up and they're gonna be presented with two lies 1492 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:49,000 Speaker 1: in a single truth. Ryan Key, Helmut one, just grab someone. 1493 01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,720 Speaker 1: So we know we like select something early. So we're 1494 01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:57,640 Speaker 1: gonna play. And but first I have a correction to make. 1495 01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,240 Speaker 1: We played this that we played this that law ago. 1496 01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:09,760 Speaker 1: We played this not long ago, and I and we 1497 01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:15,800 Speaker 1: accidentally did we accidentally did three lies because we're talking 1498 01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:19,080 Speaker 1: about we're talking about a favor like the deadliest tiger. 1499 01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:24,240 Speaker 1: The deadliest animal ever was the Chompawatt tigress, and it 1500 01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:28,439 Speaker 1: was a tiger who had had messed up teeth. Some 1501 01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,759 Speaker 1: people believed that she had been shot by a poacher 1502 01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:36,759 Speaker 1: busted her teeth. The tiger then dedicated itself to killing 1503 01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,840 Speaker 1: humans and eating humans. And this this is no joke. 1504 01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:48,360 Speaker 1: It's probably more but attributed this single tigress in killed 1505 01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:53,960 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty six people, and it was killed 1506 01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,720 Speaker 1: by a ice. Ice screwed up and we got a 1507 01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:00,479 Speaker 1: lot of heat for this ice grew it up and 1508 01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,320 Speaker 1: said that the guy that killed it, Jim Corbett. I 1509 01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,639 Speaker 1: said that he was American, but to do with British, 1510 01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:08,040 Speaker 1: and people were pissed. It was like when I said 1511 01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:14,960 Speaker 1: Sam Houston died at the Alamo. People were worked up. 1512 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:18,880 Speaker 1: So that's my correction. Corbett was British. Now, if you win, 1513 01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,280 Speaker 1: you just get it, not if you win. What's that 1514 01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:28,720 Speaker 1: are contestant? Is here? Jane Nice? Grab a seat. They 1515 01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:30,840 Speaker 1: all spins. He can look right in the eye of 1516 01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:36,040 Speaker 1: the storytellers. Okay, we're gonna tell you things that are uh, 1517 01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:40,720 Speaker 1: there's one true thing hiding within this. You want what 1518 01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:49,280 Speaker 1: you want first, okay. You know are you with youth? 1519 01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:54,280 Speaker 1: Are you with youth hunting seasons? Okay? And you are 1520 01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:58,519 Speaker 1: aware of the fact that now and then a dough, 1521 01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:05,200 Speaker 1: a female white tale will grow antlers. Okay. Tennessee's youth 1522 01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:11,639 Speaker 1: hunting season, a new youth hunting season record was set 1523 01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:18,240 Speaker 1: in Tennessee by an antlered dough. The individual who was 1524 01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:23,240 Speaker 1: holding the record prior to this kill has actually contested 1525 01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:33,080 Speaker 1: the new entry because it's not a buck. Okay. So 1526 01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:37,640 Speaker 1: I have a story that weaves together bears and national forests, 1527 01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:45,400 Speaker 1: and it goes like this. In the nineties, a narcotics 1528 01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:50,120 Speaker 1: officer turned drug runner by the name of Andrew Thornton 1529 01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:56,120 Speaker 1: was traveling over the Chattahoochee National Forest in a small 1530 01:34:56,160 --> 01:35:04,280 Speaker 1: airplane containing forty plastic containers of blow coke, the white 1531 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:14,720 Speaker 1: stuff he threw, cane he threw, He threw the containers 1532 01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:20,080 Speaker 1: out of the plane, donned his parachute, leaving the plane 1533 01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:25,799 Speaker 1: unattended and en route to the ground. Unfortunately, became tangled 1534 01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:34,720 Speaker 1: in his own parachute plummeting to his death. Agents when 1535 01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:37,759 Speaker 1: they went in to recover the drugs and his body, 1536 01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:43,800 Speaker 1: expecting to find fifteen million dollars worth of cocaine some 1537 01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:50,519 Speaker 1: forty kilos, instead, came upon a very dead black bear. 1538 01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:58,000 Speaker 1: The black bear had died of the single most impressive 1539 01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:02,519 Speaker 1: drug overdose in the history of wildlife ecology. Stuffed to 1540 01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:07,439 Speaker 1: the brim with the white stuff, a knee cropsy revealed 1541 01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:12,240 Speaker 1: the bear had died from a combination of cerebral hemorrhag ng, 1542 01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:21,400 Speaker 1: respiratory failure, hyperthermia, renal failure, heart failure, and a stroke. 1543 01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:33,760 Speaker 1: That bear, that bear is now stuffed and on display 1544 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:38,320 Speaker 1: at the Kentucky fun Mall North in North Lexington, where 1545 01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:53,840 Speaker 1: he dons the moniker Pablo Escobar. Okay, well told, all right, 1546 01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:59,360 Speaker 1: So are you familiar with the lone startik No? Okay, 1547 01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,639 Speaker 1: the lone Star tick in the Lone Star State. So 1548 01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:09,720 Speaker 1: we have to find somebody else, sorry, man. So we 1549 01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:13,400 Speaker 1: have a tick that carries I think it's called an 1550 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:18,320 Speaker 1: alpha gl carbohydrate, and so when it bites and infects 1551 01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,080 Speaker 1: a human goes into the blood stream, we produce a 1552 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:25,680 Speaker 1: whole bunch of antibodies and basically have an allergic reaction 1553 01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,280 Speaker 1: so severe that we can no longer eat red meat, 1554 01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:34,519 Speaker 1: so beef lamb So I'm just explaining what the tickets 1555 01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:40,040 Speaker 1: we're just laying getting him off. Then got this tick. 1556 01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:46,040 Speaker 1: And recently down in South Texas, they stumbled upon a 1557 01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:51,240 Speaker 1: ton of there's several pots that were really scrawning, and 1558 01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,720 Speaker 1: they started trying to figure out what was wrong with 1559 01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:57,439 Speaker 1: these coyotes, and they tested him and they contracted this 1560 01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:00,720 Speaker 1: disease from lone star tick because it can't eat meat. 1561 01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:06,760 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Now you need help from the crowd. I 1562 01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,000 Speaker 1: can go to each one of the storytellers and and 1563 01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:12,360 Speaker 1: stand behind him, and the crowd can yell the loudest 1564 01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:14,479 Speaker 1: for who they think is the truth. If you need 1565 01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:18,680 Speaker 1: that help, you quick review. Yeah, okay, you have the 1566 01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:23,759 Speaker 1: story of the new youth season White tailed Deer record. 1567 01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:30,040 Speaker 1: You have the story of Pablo Escobart, and you have 1568 01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:33,800 Speaker 1: the story of that. See that the allergen, the meat 1569 01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:37,160 Speaker 1: allergen that can be caused that can that humans can 1570 01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:41,680 Speaker 1: contract from the lone star tick has afflicted has been 1571 01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,479 Speaker 1: proven to be able to afflict kyotes and make them 1572 01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:48,719 Speaker 1: intolerant of meat, which leads to their emaciation and eventual death. 1573 01:38:49,920 --> 01:39:01,479 Speaker 1: And they all live in Frisco. This is hard going 1574 01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,479 Speaker 1: help you need help from the crowd. Let me let 1575 01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,960 Speaker 1: me real quick, let mean real quick. Now. So what 1576 01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:12,240 Speaker 1: we have is uh some fury HD five thousand binoculars 1577 01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,439 Speaker 1: from my friends at Bord tex who we needed. We 1578 01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:16,880 Speaker 1: needed a present, so see him through the bullshit. We 1579 01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:21,160 Speaker 1: needed a present and you get laser range finding binoculars, 1580 01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:27,439 Speaker 1: real expensive, real nice, lifetime warrant, lifetime thing you could 1581 01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:29,040 Speaker 1: if they burn up in a house fire, they'll give 1582 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,320 Speaker 1: you new ones as well as you've got some chunk 1583 01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:36,240 Speaker 1: of plastic ascending. Yeah, Danielle's was asked the crowd. Danielle's 1584 01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:41,599 Speaker 1: story about the veggie Kyles. But by bullsit you mean, 1585 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:47,320 Speaker 1: by bullsit you mean true or not true. That's a lie. 1586 01:39:50,600 --> 01:40:01,320 Speaker 1: Carl's story about Pablo Escombara, Steve story about the female buckets, 1587 01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:08,000 Speaker 1: now the state youth record and tsee, oh that's hard. 1588 01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:12,479 Speaker 1: I realized leaning towards that one. I really was. You're 1589 01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:15,960 Speaker 1: leaning towards the youth season. That's that's if you want 1590 01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:24,000 Speaker 1: to win. But it's my fellow Texans, and I'm gonna 1591 01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,800 Speaker 1: go with the Texan away and I'm gonna go with 1592 01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:39,720 Speaker 1: Pablo Esco. Thanks playing, thank you, thanks man, have a 1593 01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,800 Speaker 1: good night, and then thank you all very much. We 1594 01:40:42,920 --> 01:41:01,639 Speaker 1: love everyone of you. You guys are the best. SCO 1595 01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:08,280 Speaker 1: proposed propertspread the contro