WEBVTT - Bling Ring

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and Michael Kaufman and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>her radio podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm excited for today's show because I want

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<v Speaker 2>to have a debate with you and actually everyone here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably gonna lose, but that's fine. It is it

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<v Speaker 2>just because you knew I was going to lose.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait for this debate. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 3>what it's about.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have a guest today from Bling Empires, Sharie,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I was kind of reading her background

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<v Speaker 2>and you watched Blaning Empire, and you know, the background

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<v Speaker 2>that I've heard from her is, you know, she proposed

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<v Speaker 2>to her to her husband, and you know, they also

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<v Speaker 2>went out of the traditions of the Asian culture, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they had kids first before they got married.

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<v Speaker 2>And it kind of leads me to traditions and what

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<v Speaker 2>is expected of you and Wenning laughing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'm just anxious to see where this goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so, okay, so it's like, you know, traditions and

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<v Speaker 2>where it's what's expected you when you're in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you go to school and then you go to college,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you get a job and then it's like

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<v Speaker 2>that is what you're supposed to do. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we've touched on this before in

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast, and I think we probably have, but it

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<v Speaker 2>just leads to, you know, why do we all have

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<v Speaker 2>to follow that same mold? And as parents we have

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<v Speaker 2>polar opposites of what that mold looks like. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of fear where that's gonna maybe cost some

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<v Speaker 2>tension when the kids get older, because even you know

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this too. I mean I potentially might

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<v Speaker 2>be filming a movie in August and if there's quarantine stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Jolie, because Michael is very much like, you

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<v Speaker 2>will not miss like, okay, there's eight days that Jolie

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<v Speaker 2>can miss in school, and I'm like, she can miss

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<v Speaker 2>a month, Like it's fine, we'll bring the paperwork home,

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<v Speaker 2>we can do the homework. And Michael's like, she will

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<v Speaker 2>not miss a day.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, not that she won't miss a day.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like, when they get into organize school, you

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<v Speaker 3>can't just be like, all right, well I got to

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<v Speaker 3>shoot for three weeks. Let's bring a whole family up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what football people do, that's what other movie people do.

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<v Speaker 2>We would unfortunately, have to bring put her in private school.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what that's what you do. The family travels together.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is just a little cavy like this is

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<v Speaker 2>a little like peep. Let's put a pin in that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Get your pope ready, guys, so let's put a.

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<v Speaker 2>Pin in that one. The big one for me is

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<v Speaker 2>college because I personally don't feel like you have to

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<v Speaker 2>go to college. And if it's something where you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's like, you know, if she wants to be

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<v Speaker 2>an actress, yeah, think you gotta go to college. There's

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<v Speaker 2>some great theatrical schools. Sure, but I don't think you

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<v Speaker 2>need to go to college. And who am I to say?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't go to college? So how can I say

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<v Speaker 2>to my kid you have to do something like when

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<v Speaker 2>my dad said you have to go to college? I

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<v Speaker 2>basically eam the finger, drove off in my green Saturn

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<v Speaker 2>and went to LA.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna dream dad.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like, you know, you're very much like you.

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<v Speaker 2>You are a very strict traditional This is how it goes.

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<v Speaker 3>You're putting some words into my mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you not traditional?

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<v Speaker 4>On?

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<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying is, look if they if Joli and

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<v Speaker 3>Jay's come to us. And they say they don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to go to college, I'll say, okay, what's your plan?

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<v Speaker 3>If they have a plan, say they want to be

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<v Speaker 3>an actor. I want to be an actor. Okay. Have

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<v Speaker 3>you thought about going to a theater school, a trade school,

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<v Speaker 3>something specific for that trade?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? When if they go? Yeah, but I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to go out to LA and just start auditioning. And

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<v Speaker 2>mom has some friends that she can hook me up with.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, then I'll say, what job are you going to

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<v Speaker 3>get in the meantime to help pay your bills while

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<v Speaker 3>you're out there getting auditions? Did you do you? Are

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<v Speaker 3>you going to be a waitress? Are you going to

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<v Speaker 3>be that?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What job did you have when you were playing football?

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<v Speaker 3>Football? Job?

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<v Speaker 2>But was it what bills?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it paying all my bills?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about NFL. I'm talking about in college.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean you didn't have a job scholarship?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm no, no, Okay, great, congrats, I'm saying, but did

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<v Speaker 2>you have a job because you didn't know you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be in the NFL?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, every summer I worked. What's your point here? My

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<v Speaker 3>point is that like I worked and played football and

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<v Speaker 3>went to school.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that I wouldn't you know me, Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of person where it's like, hey, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>like they're going to buy their own car with their

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<v Speaker 2>money that they get from work. Sure, but let them

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<v Speaker 2>like you don't have to drill them into like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like the last thing you want is like, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to do for work? They got to figure

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<v Speaker 2>that out.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But also our parents, as parents, our job is

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<v Speaker 3>to put them in the best position to succeed. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're not just going.

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<v Speaker 2>To say ever asked me what I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>do for work when I moved to La I just

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I have to get a job because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen and I've got zero money.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But I still want our kids to here. This

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<v Speaker 3>is about not about tradition. This is about just my

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<v Speaker 3>personality of being prepared. It's I want you to go

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<v Speaker 3>and be able to whatever scenario comes your way. You

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<v Speaker 3>have a response for there's some preparation instead of just

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<v Speaker 3>flying by the seat of your pants with a life

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<v Speaker 3>changing decision, be like, ah, we'll see what it pans out.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, why don't you apply that to your own life?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean, mister fly By? The seat of

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<v Speaker 2>the pants. What do you mean that's how you live

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<v Speaker 2>your life? How can you? How can you say that

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<v Speaker 2>and then not actually live that? That's That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>You shan't be a hypocrite to your kids.

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<v Speaker 3>How am I hypocrite?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't fly? You fly by the seat of your pants? How?

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<v Speaker 2>How not?

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<v Speaker 3>How? Please tell me? How?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You just fly? You don't you just fly? You flutter?

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<v Speaker 2>You're a flutterer. With our book, you know the schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a schedule Mark It's like no, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>With the book, we have a schedule and it's like no,

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<v Speaker 2>the last month ukram everything.

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<v Speaker 3>That's different than having planned versus how I work better.

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<v Speaker 2>But one's not living by a plan.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's not You're taking it into a different category,

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<v Speaker 3>different context.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about when you're a young adult, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to make yes, and we can say.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, we help push in the right direction. I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>grown up.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Okay, then I have a question. You said that

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<v Speaker 2>you were going to buy them their car, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very against that. I think they should work for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I worked my butt off from my redilero. I got

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<v Speaker 2>a job when I was fourteen, and then at fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>I started waitressing, and I bought myself at least a

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<v Speaker 2>red alaer up. I maybe like signed. You know, my

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<v Speaker 2>dad signed for it, right, but he didn't pay for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I worked for it. I paid two hundred bucks a

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<v Speaker 2>month on that damn thing. So I'm just saying, like.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to give and guess what if you didn't

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<v Speaker 3>make the payments? Guess whose credit hurts your dad's.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but he knew I would work for it. I

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<v Speaker 2>just okay, and this might hurt a little bit I

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<v Speaker 2>have Why are you looking at me? I'm strained in

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<v Speaker 2>my soul.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's hear it. We're all waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop it making me sweat. I think there is Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, No, seriously, I'm just looking at you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, seriously, No, don't give me that like patronizing tap,

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<v Speaker 3>Like seriously, come on, I want to hear what you

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<v Speaker 3>have to say.

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<v Speaker 2>No, stop, now you're like actually being rude? Now was

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<v Speaker 2>that because I like being like serious?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm being serious too.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I just think if I have spoken to someone

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<v Speaker 2>who said that sometimes they regret helping because it makes

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<v Speaker 2>them not be as responsible for or in the value

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<v Speaker 2>of money. And I think if there's if you're helping

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<v Speaker 2>your kids too much, it can hurt them in adulthood.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what Jane is getting at, because I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 3>right now it wasn't because yes, my parents always made

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<v Speaker 3>sure that I could cover my bills if I had

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<v Speaker 3>a hard time, or food in food in my refrigerator

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<v Speaker 3>in college or whatever. By no means it was a charity.

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<v Speaker 3>But whatever my scholarship didn't cover because it really wasn't enough,

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<v Speaker 3>especially when I was a walk on. They made sure

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't go hungry. But my devaluing of a dollar

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<v Speaker 3>didn't come from my parents being there to help me

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<v Speaker 3>if I needed it. I admittedly say it was from

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<v Speaker 3>making the money I did in my twenties. And here's

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say this. I've said this to other people where

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<v Speaker 3>because you and I are different when it comes to spending,

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<v Speaker 3>right Like I'm a little bit more Liza Fair, a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more open to spending than you are. And

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about numerous times on here, and I literally

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<v Speaker 3>contribute that to in your twenties, your power was getting

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<v Speaker 3>turned off. You're in taketos for dinner like I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Stealing toilet paper from the wood Ranch Grill in West Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that was your early twenties. My early twenties, I

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<v Speaker 3>was making a ridiculous amount of money, especially for early

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<v Speaker 3>twenty year old So my value of a dollar early

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<v Speaker 3>after college, I had a different skew on things, and

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<v Speaker 3>that still affects me now because I was used to

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<v Speaker 3>being on my own, having money to buy whatever I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted and just doing it because I could. And so

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<v Speaker 3>that's where I admit that, that's where my appreciation of

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<v Speaker 3>a dollar has downgraded is because of that. Not from

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<v Speaker 3>my parents helping me in a time of need, not

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<v Speaker 3>from them, you know, helping me at with other things.

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<v Speaker 3>It came from my experience in my early twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>I do appreciate you saying that, though, because you've never

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<v Speaker 2>expressed that to me before that way, Like, you've never

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<v Speaker 2>you've never So I'm like, and now I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that makes sense now, Like I understand now why you

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<v Speaker 2>value money different. I've never you've never explained it that

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<v Speaker 2>way to me. Really, yeah, So I do appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>being able to explain it to me like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just yeah, I think, just like to circle back,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there is just I think there's healthy ways

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<v Speaker 2>of helping your kids. Like of course, if Jolie and

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<v Speaker 2>Jace come to me, one thousand percent, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>help them because I like to be able to have

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<v Speaker 2>the means that my parents didn't have because I had

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<v Speaker 2>to quit things. You know, I had to quit figure skating,

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<v Speaker 2>that's something I loved because my parents got divorced. I

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<v Speaker 2>had my mom had to work three jobs, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had to work because my parents got divorced. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of things that I didn't have,

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<v Speaker 2>but if I needed it, I had to work for

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<v Speaker 2>And there's things I wish I could say, like mom,

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<v Speaker 2>but I will say also when our power was getting

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<v Speaker 2>my power was getting shut off in La, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my mom took money out of her retirement, and when

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<v Speaker 2>I got really sick in Romania, you know, she took

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<v Speaker 2>more money out of her retirement and you know, flied,

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<v Speaker 2>fled me or flew me back home, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like a mother and a father are going

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<v Speaker 2>to do whatever they are going to do with their

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<v Speaker 2>for their children, and you know, hopefully we'll continue to

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<v Speaker 2>have the means to be able to provide I just

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<v Speaker 2>know the value of not having it. And and but

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<v Speaker 2>also I will say too, that's affected my relationship with

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<v Speaker 2>money because I'm so scared to lose it that I

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<v Speaker 2>become very controlling of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's, you know, an aspect that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>constantly working on because it's it's so scary to be

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<v Speaker 2>in that situation, because I don't want to ever have

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<v Speaker 2>to look at, you know, to like I had my

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<v Speaker 2>two girlfriends, my two best girlfriends from Michigan were in

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<v Speaker 2>town when I was living in LA and my freaking

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<v Speaker 2>power turned off, you know, like it's it was embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 2>like here I am, I moved to LA to be

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<v Speaker 2>this actress and like my's getting turned off, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just I just think there's a there is

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy balance. But I really I want them to

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<v Speaker 2>know that like they can't just like they gotta do

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<v Speaker 2>everything they can before they like they know, they'll know

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<v Speaker 2>that I was there. But I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>like here.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I agree, And I never said I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>be like here, here's this, here's that.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a car. And I'll tell and I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what I will let me, let me do what

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<v Speaker 2>my grand and so I said, this is what my grandpa.

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<v Speaker 2>What my grandpa did for my brother was the coolest

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<v Speaker 2>thing ever. And it's something I've always thought of that

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do for our kids because we do

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<v Speaker 2>have them, you know, hopefully by then we have still

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<v Speaker 2>the means. What my grandpa did for my brother was

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<v Speaker 2>my my grandpa said, if you want this car, it's

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<v Speaker 2>my car. You got to pay me. So every two weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>and my brothers, my brother got you know, two jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>He paid my brother. He paid my grandpa for this

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<v Speaker 2>beat up even had a Mary Kay sign on it

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<v Speaker 2>because my grandma used to sell Mary Kay. And I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it was just like me and my friends just

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<v Speaker 2>jump in the back seats because they were the bouncy

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<v Speaker 2>like just a big old like car. It was a boat. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But my brother paid my grandpa every two weeks on

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<v Speaker 2>a schedule, and my grandpa very german structured. He was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll pay me every two weeks. This is how much

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be, and by this point it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>paid off. And so when my brother paid him off,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like fifteen thousand dollars, which would have been

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<v Speaker 2>the blue book Kelly blue Book of what the car cost.

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<v Speaker 2>My grandpa gave him all the money back and said,

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<v Speaker 2>put this in your bank, and I was just like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like to this day, it still gives me chills because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, now that's awesome because he still worked for it,

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<v Speaker 2>but now it's go put this in your bank. You

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<v Speaker 2>weren't laid on a payment and now you know, invest

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<v Speaker 2>in this, Like what a gift. You know that you

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<v Speaker 2>taught them hard work does pay off, you know, And

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<v Speaker 2>I just love that, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, And it's there's it's interesting because there's different ways

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<v Speaker 3>to look at you know. I feel like people, depending

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<v Speaker 3>on their experiences, they can go one of the one

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<v Speaker 3>or one or either direction, one of two directions. Where

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<v Speaker 3>like we have these friends that live across from us,

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<v Speaker 3>that our neighbors. And he grew up with like I

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<v Speaker 3>mean food stamps, like barely any food with like Jason.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and Jason our neighbor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like you know, he had like four other

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<v Speaker 3>siblings and they didn't even know where next meal would

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<v Speaker 3>come some days. So now him and his wife they

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<v Speaker 3>make a little money and he'll like over buy groceries

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<v Speaker 3>because he never wants his kids to ever have to

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<v Speaker 3>know what it's like to not have food available, and

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<v Speaker 3>she gets frustrated because she's like, we're wasting so much.

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<v Speaker 3>But he just it's this childhood anxiety, like, no, I

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<v Speaker 3>never want to I never want our kids to ever

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<v Speaker 3>have to feel that ever. And so it's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like that where it's people that grew up

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<v Speaker 3>maybe without money or hard times, it's they'll maybe overcompensate,

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<v Speaker 3>where it's like I never want my kids to ever

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<v Speaker 3>come close to feeling that, Or it's the other end

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<v Speaker 3>where it's just like, no, I worked for this, you

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<v Speaker 3>gotta do the same thing. So it's fine in that

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<v Speaker 3>happy medium of still teaching then the lesson, but also

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<v Speaker 3>knowing that mom and dad got your back, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I feel like we got off a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>but like in a great way because the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, you know, if the kids don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>go to college, they do want to go to college.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost support them no matter what. I just here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And what if Jolie wants to propose to somebody, what

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<v Speaker 2>would you say? And what if Jolie wants to have

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<v Speaker 2>a baby before she gets married.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, that's down the road. I don't want to have

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<v Speaker 3>to worry about that problem yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but because I think the dream world as everyone

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but some things just happen differently for people.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's okay, right, here's my only thing about Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>say you know they want to become an actor, right,

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<v Speaker 3>whe of the kids want to go out there, Jolie

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<v Speaker 3>wants to become an actor.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I will, I will gladly tell them they

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<v Speaker 2>should not do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. But say say she wants to write, Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 3>you know how hard it is to be successful at

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<v Speaker 3>it and to make any kind of living at it, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And so okay, say she does that, Say unfortunately it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't pan out, and she didn't go to college or

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<v Speaker 3>any kind of school. Then she comes home and she's

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five. What career path does she have? Where it's

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<v Speaker 3>like it's like, what you think she's just going to

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<v Speaker 3>go get a job somewhere. Well, guess what. Nowadays to

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<v Speaker 3>get a job, it's like everyone you like have to

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<v Speaker 3>have a master's Before, Like when I got out of college,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, yeah, you know, bachelor's degree is fine. Nowadays

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<v Speaker 3>it's like masters dot Like it's insanely competitive. So what

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<v Speaker 3>is she going to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Then well, I didn't go to college because I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to fall back plan because in my brain, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like that way, I wouldn't fall back.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm with you, trust me. I was the same

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<v Speaker 3>way when I did the NFL. It's like it was

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<v Speaker 3>NFL or nothing. People are like, oh, what are you

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do after you know football? I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not worried about that because this is my plan A

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<v Speaker 3>through Z. So I get it. And with sports you're

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<v Speaker 3>able to go through the route of going to college

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<v Speaker 3>because that's part of the process.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say though, that even if you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a backup plan, and you know, if you didn't have radio,

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<v Speaker 2>you might have found that you're always going to find

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<v Speaker 2>something else, whether some you're going to find something that

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<v Speaker 2>you will end up finding your passion. And I do

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<v Speaker 2>believe that if you set you up, set out your goal,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you'll always land. You're gonna land among the stars.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you'll land up at the bottom of a bottle.

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<v Speaker 2>O what Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, there's other people that go that route.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say too, I'm not an advocate for not

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<v Speaker 2>going to college. I just want to say that I

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<v Speaker 2>think you know, having an education and a degree is

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<v Speaker 2>very valuable. But if you do have a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>acting or you want to open a pl you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I obviously if you want to go into business, it's

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<v Speaker 2>great too, you know, for a studio. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>think there are certain situations where maybe it isn't like

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<v Speaker 2>the route and that's what.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that college isn't for everybody. I do believe that.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, again, I just want to plan, that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to just find out the proposal thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, so on that topic, speaking of money and everything,

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<v Speaker 3>let's uh, let's take a quick break and then I'll

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<v Speaker 3>intro our guests. Sure, all right, So we have a

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<v Speaker 3>great guest today. You know, it's it's wildfire right now

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<v Speaker 3>Bling Empire on Netflix, and so we have the wonderful,

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<v Speaker 3>amazing sweet Cherie on the show today to talk everything

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<v Speaker 3>Bling Empire, her baby, her mother or her baby. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>her fiance Jesse was not able to join us, but

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<v Speaker 3>let's bring her in.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Hello, adorable, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I just binged Bling Empire this morning actually,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I thought I was just going to

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<v Speaker 3>watch a little bit Schari just to watch you and

0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Jesse since we were supposed to have you and him on.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he couldn't make it today, but I really

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<v Speaker 3>enjoyed the show. It's very entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I have a lot of friends too that

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<v Speaker 2>are so you know, just like they that's all they

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<v Speaker 2>talk about what was for you? Like what was the

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<v Speaker 2>deciding factor for you to be on a reality show?

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<v Speaker 4>At first, I actually wasn't going to be a part

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<v Speaker 4>of it because I was so busy with my mom

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<v Speaker 4>and I was pregnant. And I told Jesse and he

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<v Speaker 4>was like, no, I'm not going to do it, and

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't even know who Jeff Drinkins was. I didn't

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.560
<v Speaker 4>know who Jeff Drinkings was, but I knew his work.

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<v Speaker 4>And then my friend told me, and then I went

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<v Speaker 4>to meet with Jeff and I thought it was too

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<v Speaker 4>good to be true. And I came home. I told

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<v Speaker 4>Jesse and he's like, no, that's that's too good to

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<v Speaker 4>be true, like an all Asian cast reality show. And

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<v Speaker 4>we just didn't think anything of it, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he must down the road.

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<v Speaker 5>Jeff was like, hey, good news. You know we're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>do the show.

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<v Speaker 4>And all of my friends were like, oh, my gosh, Urea,

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<v Speaker 4>like they're all like happy, but I was like really depressed.

0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:38.959
<v Speaker 4>I was, you know, taking care of my mom and

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<v Speaker 4>being pregnant and really just trying to breathe because every

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:45.760
<v Speaker 4>every day I went to the hospital was bad. And

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't think I was going to do the show

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<v Speaker 4>at all, really, and I spoke to my mom about

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<v Speaker 4>it and she was just she was at first, she was,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, against it, and she was just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a very typical Chinese mom. But then later on she's like,

0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 4>you know what, sure, you want to do the show,

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<v Speaker 4>you should do it. And then it's crazy because literally

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<v Speaker 4>a few weeks before the show started filming, she passed away,

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<v Speaker 4>and that gave me my Actually, the show really helped me,

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<v Speaker 4>helped me with a lot of grief. I think without

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<v Speaker 4>me being pregnant, and maybe even without the show, I

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<v Speaker 4>would just probably end up where my mom's at. Really,

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<v Speaker 4>like I couldn't. I couldn't think anything other than you know,

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<v Speaker 4>my mom not in my life, like but to me

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<v Speaker 4>that this doesn't make sense, Like even till this day,

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<v Speaker 4>I have trouble, especially during the holidays like today's Chinese

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<v Speaker 4>me Eve, and it's a big holiday in our family

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<v Speaker 4>and just you know, when I woke up in the

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<v Speaker 4>morning and she wasn't here, it just kind of shocked

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<v Speaker 4>me a little bit, and you know, the holidays are

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<v Speaker 4>really difficult for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sure. I was just going to ask you,

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<v Speaker 3>did you know and you kind of answered it. It

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<v Speaker 3>seemed like the show was almost a healthy distraction for you,

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<v Speaker 3>and the fact that you got kind of your mother

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<v Speaker 3>is blessing there at the end, you know, before she

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<v Speaker 3>passed away. I think you're eight and a half months.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just before Javon was was born, correct, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's unfortunately, very very pregnant. Yeah, before he was born. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>if there's any.

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<v Speaker 2>M hmm. Yeah. You know, I'm curious when you say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like a typical Asian mom and the Asian culture,

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<v Speaker 2>what is I guess what is that? Because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>obviously I don't know much about the Asian culture and

0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:38.679
<v Speaker 2>how are you going to raise your kids? Like, what

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<v Speaker 2>are some of the the amazing attributes of the Asian

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<v Speaker 2>culture that you're going to bring in as a mother yourself?

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<v Speaker 5>I think you don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Yvonne definitely know a lot about Chinese food and just

0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:50.440
<v Speaker 4>Asian food in general, because we eat a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>it at home and out before COVID happened, and Judo

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:57.040
<v Speaker 4>was very lucky. She actually got to travel everywhere. You know,

0:22:57.080 --> 0:23:00.119
<v Speaker 4>one baby, you can travel with them. Was easier now

0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:03.320
<v Speaker 4>with two babies and COVID, like, forget it, we're not traveling.

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:06.160
<v Speaker 4>We're eating at home or we're buying to go right.

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 4>And so I think your Door has a lot of

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 4>Chinese values in her, more than I expect that she would.

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 4>I mean, she loves everything about the Chinese language and

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<v Speaker 4>learning it.

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:22.320
<v Speaker 5>And actually every language. She's like a language girl, and she.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I just hope I can be the

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.959
<v Speaker 4>type of mom my mom was to me to Judor,

0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:35.360
<v Speaker 4>because it's just been so hectic without her, and I

0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:39.639
<v Speaker 4>feel that, you know, when she was here, I was

0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.400
<v Speaker 4>just like kind of being lazy, I guess, lazy mom,

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:43.360
<v Speaker 4>but my first baby.

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<v Speaker 5>I was definitely there for Judor.

0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 4>But I leaned a lot my mom because you know, Mom,

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:50.639
<v Speaker 4>she came in, she did everything for me and was

0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 4>really close to her. And I don't think your Door

0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:55.920
<v Speaker 4>knows my mom is gone, Like she knows that she's

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<v Speaker 4>not here, but she doesn't know where she's at like,

0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 4>she'll ask me even today, she's oh, Popost coming in

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 4>and goole, is you know grandma Grandpa? And I told

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 4>her no, they're going to come tomorrow and she's like, okay.

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 4>But even if she doesn't see my mom, she's still like,

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 4>for some reason, feels that my mom is here.

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 5>Doesn't make any sense.

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:15.920
<v Speaker 3>No, it definitely does.

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:16.719
<v Speaker 5>She could feel it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that that definitely makes sense. How old are the

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 3>kids now?

0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 5>Judor is four and a half and Japan is eighteen months?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's that's crazy, because I guess you guys were

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.719
<v Speaker 3>filming obviously a while back, because I mean, you know,

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:32.880
<v Speaker 3>she had the birth of her of your son on

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:35.439
<v Speaker 3>the show, which was a pretty cool experience. Was that

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 3>something that you were open to doing or did it

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.399
<v Speaker 3>you know, did it just kind of it seemed to

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 3>happen that way or did you have any issue with that?

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:45.640
<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I actually no, I didn't want to film my birth

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 4>on TV, not on Netflix. But then I thought about

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 4>it hard with Jesse and we're I and I told him, hey,

0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 4>you know what I don't have any footage of because

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 4>when was born, he was really nervous.

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 5>He did.

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 4>I told him, like let's hire a photographer, let's have

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.120
<v Speaker 4>a videographer. He's like, no, we're not doing any that.

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.159
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna do my iPhone. So he took an iPhone video,

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 4>but the whole video is in slow motion. So I

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 4>reminded him myself, are you sure you want you want

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 4>to have a slow motion like video of Javon?

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:18.439
<v Speaker 5>Like, I don't want that.

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 4>And so we we you know, obviously talked to the producers.

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:23.919
<v Speaker 4>We're like, okay, well make sure you know it's not

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:28.200
<v Speaker 4>like PG thirteen. It has been PG like really clean,

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 4>like nothing, you know, grided r. And they're like, oh,

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 4>of course, not sure. Why would we do that to you,

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 4>Like it would totally be PG. And then to the

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 4>clip and then showed me and they're like, oh do

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.360
<v Speaker 4>you approve? And I'm like, yeah, it's beautiful. I mean

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.440
<v Speaker 4>the fact that I saw Javon's first breath on TV

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 4>like that just takes my.

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:49.119
<v Speaker 5>Breath away every time I watch it.

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.439
<v Speaker 4>Well, next cry and actually all of my family members,

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 4>all my friends cried too.

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Well if you ever want to feel uh, we had

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 2>our son actually live podcast and I regret that just

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 2>because I mean, I'm like huking it I'm like throwing up.

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:08.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm having a panic attack because when I was getting

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 2>like the epidural like there was the spinal tap or whatever.

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was just like ridiculous. So major props

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 2>to you for showing, you know, actually showing it.

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 5>You only have one baby.

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 2>We have two. We have a five year old girl

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 2>and a two year old little boy. So yeah, they're

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 2>they're fun, They're they're awesome kids. But I'm I'm curious

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 2>because you know, I've you know, I haven't watched the

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 2>show yet. I'm going to now because I love you

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 2>and you're so cute, and you know, Michael was saying

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 2>how much he really enjoyed it too. But what he

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 2>told me was that you proposed, And I was just like, wait, what,

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Like she proposed to him? And I'm curious, like how that,

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 2>like a what was your deciding factor? And then was

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 2>there anything in you being like because if that was me,

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, well, why wouldn't you propose to me?

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Like don't you like am I not good enough? Am

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I not worth it?

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:02.199
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 2>What did any of those thoughts go through your head

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 2>at all?

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 4>I never felt that way with Jesse. I never felt

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't good enough or not worth it, because he

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 4>always he's always there for me, he like physically, emotionally everything,

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 4>Like even with my mom which is in the hospital,

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 4>he came with me all the time.

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 5>He drove me.

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 4>He didn't want me to drive, and I never felt

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 4>that he didn't want me. It was never about that.

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.679
<v Speaker 4>And I think with Jesse, he just like kind of

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:33.120
<v Speaker 4>like a snail. He takes his time and to his

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 4>I mean to back him up a little bit, he

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 4>was actually going to propose, uh, right before we found

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 4>that my mom, you know, is ill, was ill, and uh,

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 4>he had planned on it. He put like a big

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 4>trip to Japan and I don't think I was pregnant yet.

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah I wasn't.

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't pregnant yet, and he planned a big trip

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.640
<v Speaker 4>to stripand he me there with my mom there. But

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 4>then you know, we heard the bad news and he

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 4>obviously didn't.

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 5>Want me to He knew how sad it was.

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:08.199
<v Speaker 4>My mom was everything to me, and so he just

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, stopped the whole plan. He canceled the trip,

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 4>and he thought maybe he was going to post me

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 4>like in between that he was hoping my mom will

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 4>get better, like we're all hoping that, but she just

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 4>every day it was like a downfall for her. And

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 4>so with that being said, then he was gonna propose

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 4>like after but then there's this like Chinese like functory

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 4>thing where you're not supposed to do it. I don't

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't really know what the story is. But yeah,

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 4>it's just like he told me. And then I was,

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 4>g that's so slow. I'm just gonna do it like whatever.

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't care, you know, and not I don't care,

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 4>I do care, but yeah, I just w my that feeling,

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 4>and at that moment, I felt my mom. She's still

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 4>here in spirit and she would have loved to know that,

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, we were engaged.

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 3>That's so great. I was anxious to ask both of you.

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, when your kids get older and they get

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 3>to that point of relationship, you know, is that something

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 3>with Jesse? You know, because like what he was saying

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 3>on the show, he was like, why does everything have

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 3>to be so traditional? Like, you know, we have this family,

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 3>we love each other, like yeah, we'll get married. But

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 3>he didn't want to feel rushed or whatever it was.

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 3>I know there's a lot around it, Like you're just saying,

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 3>but when it comes to your kids. Is that something

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 3>that you guys are going to kind of teach or

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 3>preach to be, like, hey, be married before you have kids,

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 3>or are you going to be more open because y'all

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 3>story is a little different.

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 5>I think my life was meant to be this way.

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 4>But definitely for my children, I want them to get

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 4>married first and then have babies.

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I.

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 4>Want to be there for the wedding really important to me.

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 2>So what was that for you that you know where

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 2>you didn't feel like you had to do it the

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 2>traditional way.

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 4>I think maybe that lucky. I don't know, DoD o

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 4>get lucky or unlucky. I have no idea. I never

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 4>in my life thought I would post to someone, I guess,

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 4>and the ideas kind of came to me out of

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 4>the blues. And I remember telling my friend and she's like, wait,

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 4>are you okay? Like did you drink religion tequila? I? No,

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 4>I didn't drink religion tequila? And yeah, she's yeah. She

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 4>thought was crazy.

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, good for you because you know it

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 3>came across in such a positive way where it wasn't

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 3>like you were demanding it or just making the move.

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 3>When he didn't want to. You're like, hey, this is

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 3>what I want. I'm a I'm a strong, you know,

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 3>woman that wants to marry this man. He wants to

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 3>marry me. I know that. So I'm just gonna step

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 3>up and do it. So I love the way I

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 3>thought they framed it in such a good way, And

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 3>I thought you delivered it in such a good way

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 3>that it wasn't out of a again, a distress. It

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 3>was out of just because of you guys loved and

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 3>connected with each other. So I thought it was really beautiful.

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm curious, And first of all, I'm so

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 2>sorry about your mom, you know, for our listeners, are

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 2>there any tips for you that you do like to

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 2>deal with grief or someone that's lost a loved one,

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Like what what helps you? Do you meditate? Do you

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 2>write things down? Do you distract yourself? Like what are

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 2>some of the ways that you've been able to to

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of put one foot in front of the other.

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 4>Dealing with the grief was not easy when I was

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 4>still pregnant. Every day I had to tell myself like,

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 4>don't cry, don't cry, don't cry, don't affect baby jabbon.

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 4>And up until the day he finally came out. I

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 4>thought I was gonna go home and drink and just drink,

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 4>but I don't even drink much.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:35.239
<v Speaker 5>But I never did any of that.

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 4>I thought I was just gonna drink and be sad

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 4>and cried out, but I actually never did any of that.

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 4>Do I cry, yes, especially during your holidays.

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 5>I cry a lot. Even today I cried.

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>And.

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 5>I think just I don't think too much of it.

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, know that you're whoever that passed away in

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 4>your life is in a better place, and that they're

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 4>they're still here with you, Like I know my mom

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 4>is like in heaven, but I feel that she's around,

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 4>and I don't know.

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 5>How to explain it. I don't know how. I think

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 5>everyone deals with a grief differently, but definitely don't drink

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 5>when you're grieving. And and don't.

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, I think I was very lucky to have Japan.

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 4>He helped me a lot, like he is the happiest baby.

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how that.

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 4>Baby went through like nine months of with me being sad,

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 4>going to the hospital, going on ambulance rides, like taking

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 4>care of my mom, be a caretaker, a bookkeeper, like

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 4>a like a want to be doctor, like a nurse,

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 4>like he did everything with me and he popped out

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 4>just like the happiest baby like he. I don't know.

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 5>He he was a gift for me, like a gift

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 5>from taught to me to help me with my mom.

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 5>Literally that's how I feel.

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 4>And he he just is always smiling around me. I

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 4>can't like if I'm sad, I just look at him.

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm done.

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 5>I don't know I feel sad anymore. He's a gift.

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love it. You know you're you're just mentioning

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 3>drinking a little bit chery and you mentioned religious tequila

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 3>and uh, you know, I know that's something that you

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 3>and Jesse have worked on in a business that you started.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell us and our listeners kind of some about the

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 3>entrepreneurial endeavors that you and Jesse are doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. Religion tequila another one of our babies. We actually

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 4>started the from scratch and it's one hundred percent worgan

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 4>in tequila. We have a Manuka honey tequila which is

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 4>really delicious and that Nuka honey. I mean, people are

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 4>crazy about it because they think, you know, if you're

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 4>not feeling well and you take a shot of Manukahan

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 4>in tequila. You're good to go, and we never marketed anything,

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 4>but we're grateful for the company. Yeah, we work so

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 4>hard on it. The bottles are are triangular shape, they're

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 4>very beautiful. Actually, we're having a private label come out

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 4>at the end of the month, and what it is

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 4>is you can it's a special bottle for you and

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 4>you can put your name on it and there's.

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 5>Only one hundred bottles and.

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 4>It's like a special private label for whoever that wants

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 4>to win one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's so awesome. And where can our listeners find

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 2>you and find this Religion Tequila?

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 4>For me, it would be Surey Official on Instagram, and

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 4>for Religion Tequila it would be Tequila Religion on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing. Well, thank you so much for coming on our show.

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Sorry that there was a little bit of delay, but

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 2>thank you for coming on our show and just sharing

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 2>your story with us and being open with us and

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:40.240
<v Speaker 2>authentic and vulnerable, especially with your mom. And I'm so sorry.

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:44.879
<v Speaker 2>And I'm excited to watch Bling Empire because yeah, you're

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 2>just You're so sweet and I'm pumped to watch it.

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 2>So thanks for coming on our show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for for your time.

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<v Speaker 5>Bye.

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<v Speaker 2>She was so sweet.

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh she was great. You know, I wish we had Jesse,

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:11.720
<v Speaker 3>her her fiance, onto but no, she was super sweet.

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 3>She came across just as she does in the show,

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 3>just very like kind.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. What's interesting is she doesn't seem like someone

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 2>that would be on a reality show, do you know

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Okay, because yeah, I was expecting because

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 2>you see the billboard, right, and that's all I've seen

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 2>pretty much, you know, because I haven't had a chance

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:30.319
<v Speaker 2>to watch yet. You know, you said you would watch

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 2>it and kind of you know, fill me in on that,

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 2>and and it just was like, eh, like I loved

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 2>Crazy Rich Asians, like the movie, but I was just like,

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know if I can deal with another

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 2>out there reality show, you know, like a Housewives. I

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 2>just like, I cause I don't I'm not a really

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 2>big Housewives fan. I mean I watch a few shows,

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 2>but you know what I mean, Like, I'm just like,

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 2>but she was just normal and like nice.

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Nor and her and her fiance Jesse are definitely the

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 3>calmest out of the crew. But even so it's not

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 3>as it's not as dramatic as some of the Housewives

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 3>shows have been. Yeah, there's some drama, but it's like

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 3>everyone's still connected and still friends. But no, Cherie and

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Jesse are so sweet, are such nice gentle people on

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 3>the show, and she I mean, that's exactly what I expected.

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, And now I want to watch it because

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 2>that's because that's the kind of reality TV I like, like,

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 2>I like like if we were to ever do a

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.280
<v Speaker 2>reality show, I would want to be with like friends

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 2>or where it's like happy and it's not just like

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 2>drama and throwing tables and like hitting each other. Do

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean?

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 3>Unless it's like a contest to see who can throw

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 3>a table further, then well I'm in.

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Mark, Do we have any emails?

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 3>We do?

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:49.760
<v Speaker 1>This is from Hannah.

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 3>She's frustrated.

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>She says, my boyfriend went on a hunting trip with

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>some friends after I asked him not to go. We

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 1>live together and I'm a full time photographer. Well, four

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 1>days later, he tests positive COVID. I now have to

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 1>postpone all of my photo sessions for two weeks and

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking a huge income loss. I'm so hurt and

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 1>angry with him, and I'm feeling so much resentment, even

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 1>though he has apologized many times. Neither of us can

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>leave the house to get any space from each other.

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 1>How would you handle working through this?

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 3>And I feel bad, as she asked, and I feel

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 3>bad for him because of course he goes. He's never

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 3>living this though never.

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Poor guy, poor guy.

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 3>And poor hair, poor both of them, because this is

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 3>just an unfortunate because think of all the people that

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 3>have done. I did my buddy's weekend in North Carolina

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 3>last year during COVID and you know, knowing there's fourteen

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 3>of us there, no one got anything. And you know

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 3>which now, granted was all of our fears that we

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 3>would come home because all of our wives would have

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 3>been like, I told you not to go, But that

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 3>didn't happen. So I feel bad for him.

0:37:57.239 --> 0:37:59.319
<v Speaker 2>I will say though too. You know that was a

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 2>conver station that we had because it was sure in

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:05.720
<v Speaker 2>the COVID times. I also knew it was with June, July, August,

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 2>September was that it was it was and July, so

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was definitely during you know, still COVID times,

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 2>and I mean obviously it's all COVID times right now,

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 2>but you know it's still where it was. You should

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 2>really probably stay home, and but I knew he needed it,

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 2>and I knew that it would be good for him,

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 2>but I did say it. We did have a conversation

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 2>that if either I changed my mind like unsafe for whatever,

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 2>is it okay? Like would you can you stay home

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 2>if for some reason I just don't feel comfortable with it?

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 2>And he was like, one thousand percent if you want

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 2>me to stay home, no issues at all, And I

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 2>feel like that's that. And once he said that, I

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 2>was like, no, babe, go like go, go, go, like

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 2>you need it. Go. I think he probably would have

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 2>She probably would have been just as open to it

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:01.240
<v Speaker 2>if if he was just as like, if you don't.

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Want me to go, well, well she said no.

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But how did she say no though, because she

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 2>might have been like you're not going like a controlling way.

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 3>H Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I make

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 3>up that she might have. She might have. She might've

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:17.839
<v Speaker 3>been like, no, you're not going, and then that's why

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 3>he was probably likes, screw it, I'm going.

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:22.879
<v Speaker 2>And if she would have maybe expressed it in any

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 2>more be like.

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 3>Look, I know you want to go, it's just right

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 3>now is not a good time. Because of COVID, I

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 3>got all these shoots coming up. How much would that

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 3>suck if you the off chance you came back with

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:35.360
<v Speaker 3>it right? So can we just wait it out a

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 3>little longer and then I promise you and your buddies

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 3>can go, you know, as soon as you can after that.

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I mean, all sounds good in hindsight, and

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:46.880
<v Speaker 3>it sound and it's a lot harder to do in

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 3>the moment we get it.

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 2>So how do they deal with it now?

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:49.399
<v Speaker 4>Though?

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like he totally just disrespected her by

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 2>just going against her wishes.

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, he did, and she probably disrespected by the way

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.879
<v Speaker 3>that she said no, and like probably didn't even make

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 3>it a discussion.

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 2>What if she did do it right, Let's give her

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 2>the benefit of the doubt. Let's give her the benefit

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 2>of the doubt that she did it right and was

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 2>just like, I really don't want you to go, and

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 2>he still went. How would she deal with that because

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, I feel disrespected.

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 3>That's really hard because I have a hard time thinking

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 3>she did it that way because he went. But let's

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.879
<v Speaker 3>say he's just that big of an asshole and still went.

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Even if she came from a good place, then she

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 3>has every right to. I mean, she has every right

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 3>to be upset anyway, but like she just needs to

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 3>continue to express it.

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Be like, dude, in the future, when I'm.

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:40.919
<v Speaker 3>Still sitting with me, just please, in the future, can

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 3>we agree that we can talk about it and you

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 3>can just come to me and tell me. So just

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 3>blatantly disrespecting me and leaving because that's not cool.

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 2>And let the resentment go. Don't let it stay, and

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:53.360
<v Speaker 2>you talk about it and then let it go.

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah and yeah, Hannah, the more you remind him, though,

0:40:56.280 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 3>the more it's just gonna create a bigger divide, you know,

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 3>So the more you just keep rubbing it in his face,

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 3>So just try to Yeah, like Janna said, try to

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 3>let it go. We know it's hard. He's owning that

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 3>he messed up, so we just gotta swallow it.

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Guys, I feel like that was a great show.

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Great show.

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Come a little close, baby, you can come closer to.

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Me now I can like being kind of road.

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 2>You were just getting like too close to me. I

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 2>need my personal space.

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh now you're too close. You don't walk intimacy, you know,

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 3>the guy actually tries to get close and intimate and

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:35.919
<v Speaker 3>you're being roaded, So that's our show for today later