WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Patience

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<v Speaker 1>I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The all we need is just

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<v Speaker 1>a little patience. Addition, as we look back at the Bengals'

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<v Speaker 1>biggest issues in their first two games of the year

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<v Speaker 1>and look ahead to Sunday's game against another OH and

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<v Speaker 1>two team, the Philadelphia Eagles. Coming up, Dave Lappham joins

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<v Speaker 1>me to discuss protecting Joe, connecting with AJ, and expecting

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<v Speaker 1>a better pass rush. This week's one on one player

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<v Speaker 1>interview is with Kevin Huber, whose goal twelve years ago

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<v Speaker 1>was to punt until he was thirty five years old.

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<v Speaker 1>He's made it, so what's his goal now? And finally

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<v Speaker 1>it's our no the Faux segment as we get an

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<v Speaker 1>entertaining look at the Eagles from Michael Barkan, who hosts

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<v Speaker 1>the team's pre and postgame shows on NBC Sports Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>mornings on CBS Sports Network. Now, let's get to the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>beginning with this week's breakdown with Dave Lapham lap I

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<v Speaker 1>think when the schedule came out and we looked at

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<v Speaker 1>Week three, a road game in Philly, most of us figured,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, that's an l right, but not anymore. The

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles struggled in their first two games worse than the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals did. They blew a seventeen nothing lead to Washington

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<v Speaker 1>in Week one, gave up twenty seven straight points and

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<v Speaker 1>lost twenty seven to seventeen. Then they lost by eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>points to the Rams last week. Yeah. I mean they've

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<v Speaker 1>been outscored sixty four to thirty six, twenty six points

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<v Speaker 1>allowed in the fourth quarter. I mean they've down the stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>They've they've collapsed basically, and you know, you think, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>playoff team more than not on the road in Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>fans at BOO Santa Claus when the schedule came out. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't look like the Philadelphi Eagles expected and anticipated,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's going to be no fans in the stand,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's going to be a much easier scenario to

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<v Speaker 1>try to go steal a w in Philadelphia. I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you, Dan, I mean, I think right now the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles are doing a lot of things wrong. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>six giveaways, dead last in the NFL, minus five turnover ratio,

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<v Speaker 1>dead last in the NFL. We think the Bengals have

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<v Speaker 1>turnover issues. Man, Philadelphia, they got more turnovers in a

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<v Speaker 1>bakery many they're just producing them. Left and right. Basically

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<v Speaker 1>one third of the league so far ISZ and two.

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<v Speaker 1>Eleven of the thirty two teams are off to an

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<v Speaker 1>O and two start. The Bengals lost their two games

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<v Speaker 1>by a total of eight points, and there's only one

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<v Speaker 1>team with an O and two record with a smaller

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<v Speaker 1>point differential, Denver. They lost their first two games by

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<v Speaker 1>a total of seven points. Should we be encouraged by that?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, I guess you could be, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to compare the Cleveland Browns to the

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Steelers, which who the Bengals played Cleveland, Denver played Pittsburgh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know in Week two. Yeah, it's I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, I guess, you know. Close. Only constant horseshoes

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<v Speaker 1>and hand gernads, as the old saying goes, and Mike Man, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been saying for a while. Oh, in ten now,

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<v Speaker 1>in two seasons games decided by eight points or less,

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<v Speaker 1>NFL standard says, when about half of them, they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>won one of them. So it's a matter of learning

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<v Speaker 1>how to finish or making plays at crucial times of

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<v Speaker 1>football games. They're going to be a big factor in

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<v Speaker 1>determining the outcome of the football game. You can't let

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity that when it presents itself just slip through

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<v Speaker 1>your fingers and move on. That's that's coming back to

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<v Speaker 1>Biden big time. There's no doubt the Bengals are giving

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<v Speaker 1>up one hundred eighty five rushing yards per game so far,

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<v Speaker 1>third worst in the NFL. It would help. I would

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<v Speaker 1>think if Geno Atkins and Mike Daniels returned this week,

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<v Speaker 1>but neither one is practicing today, and if I had

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<v Speaker 1>to guess, I'd guess, you know, if the injury are equal,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that the groin injury wasn't a real, real severe

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<v Speaker 1>one and it's going to take like you know, forever.

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<v Speaker 1>In Gino's shoulder injury, whether it's rotator cuff or if

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<v Speaker 1>it's labor on, whatever it is, it's not, I think

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<v Speaker 1>probably have a better chance of Daniel's coming back from

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<v Speaker 1>a groin you know, depending on the severity of the pull,

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<v Speaker 1>a groin strain, a growing pull. I would think that

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<v Speaker 1>Daniels may be able to make the dance in a

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<v Speaker 1>better way than Geno Atkins would potentially and maybe need

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<v Speaker 1>another week or so for Gino and you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>their day to day week to week, but the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that neither one of them practiced, you know, and when

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<v Speaker 1>when they came back with the extra practice time, Today's

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<v Speaker 1>today's injury report will have a big bearing on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday's the big work day. Hopefully at least one of

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<v Speaker 1>them went limited. Maybe both went limited. But if I

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<v Speaker 1>were to pick one that might have done something today,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd probably gamble and pick Daniel's over. At let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. Pro Football Focus has the Bengals ranked twenty

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<v Speaker 1>sixth in past blocking so far. Who are the sixth best,

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen twentieth in run blocking so far? How has the

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<v Speaker 1>old line performed in your opinion, you know, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>I guess spotty would be kind. I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>Fred obviously had a couple of issues, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>agree with Zach's comments that he didn't even have a practice,

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<v Speaker 1>a full practice with any physicality to it before going

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<v Speaker 1>into play Thursday night against the Cleveland Browns. That's tough duty,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is. I mean, you think, okay, you take

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<v Speaker 1>some snaps of training camp, it wasn't. It was never

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<v Speaker 1>really anything more than a scrimmage situation, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>live not tackling people in everything defense going one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>miles an hour with a bunch of different looks and

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<v Speaker 1>adjustments you have to make. And he probably took more

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<v Speaker 1>snaps at tackle initially when he was battling Bobby Hart

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<v Speaker 1>than he did a guard. And I can speak from experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Going from tackle to guard is easier physically because you

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<v Speaker 1>have people on both sides of you. You have less

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<v Speaker 1>space to worry about, and not as athletic a player

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<v Speaker 1>as you might see on the edge, So physically it

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<v Speaker 1>might be easier although they're they're behemous. You know, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to be strong inside, but boy, it's fast in there.

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<v Speaker 1>The traffic patterns are quicker on the edge. No matter

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<v Speaker 1>what I found when I was playing all the different positions,

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<v Speaker 1>every single assignment blocked the end. What if they do

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<v Speaker 1>this block the end? If you're playing center a guard,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll give you different looks. They'll bring linebackers. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot goes on double a gap blitz is

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<v Speaker 1>and it's quick and man, sometimes you feel like, you know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you're over the speed limit. These guys are really you

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<v Speaker 1>have to make quick So mentally it's a big adjustment

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<v Speaker 1>going from tackle to guard. Physically, it's not as much.

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<v Speaker 1>Although Fred got rocked man on that bullrush, he got

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<v Speaker 1>rocked and I was surprised. I thought that would not

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<v Speaker 1>be happening to Fred. If I were to pick anything,

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<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't happen to Fred, being the behemoth that he is.

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<v Speaker 1>But it just goes to show you if you're tentative

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<v Speaker 1>at all in terms of what you're supposed to do

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<v Speaker 1>and how you're supposed to do it, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>a high pad level, and I don't care if you're

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<v Speaker 1>King Kong, you know they're gonna get under your pads

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<v Speaker 1>and knock you around a little bit. So I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was probably really really quick for him

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<v Speaker 1>mentally in there, and hopefully it's slowed down a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit because it's tough. And now you have again you're

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<v Speaker 1>between the center and tackle. Either one have worked with

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<v Speaker 1>you in live conditions either. It's it's an issue. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not as easy as people think. And but

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing I will say, Fred Taylor has untapped upside.

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Johnson, I keep on him run the football. Fred

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson has untapped upside. I mean he is he is gargantulan,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I do think when if he does

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<v Speaker 1>get his feet under him and start to feel real

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable mentally, Michael Jordan and Fred Johnson could be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a twin tower of strength inside at the guard position. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he he learned a couple of things. He got bowled

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<v Speaker 1>by one guy and got beaten upfield. Miles Garrett, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>came came upfield on him and get got a quick

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<v Speaker 1>rush and knocked the ball out of Joe Burrow's hand.

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<v Speaker 1>So he had a couple of major negatives, um that

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<v Speaker 1>were visible to everybody. But boy, he needs reps that.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been announced that Fred Johnson will start again

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<v Speaker 1>this week at right guard, but in the meantime, Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Redmond was resigned this week to the practice squad. At

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<v Speaker 1>least what happens with him going forward? Do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if he gets activated, you know to the

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one of the fifty five, the two guys that

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<v Speaker 1>bring up for fifty five. But I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that would be an overload inside. You know, they get Calhoun, Um, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see who else they have. They have Billy Billy

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<v Speaker 1>and Identity playing tackle and guard. I mean, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where Redman, And I don't know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>why he was terminated, waved or or whatever. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was because he keeps getting hurt. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>injured himself wrestling in the offseason and couldn't participate in

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<v Speaker 1>training camp until the very end. And you know, against

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh the year before in pregame warmups, blows his elbow out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, man, you gotta be kidding me. So they're wondering.

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<v Speaker 1>I think again again, one of the best availables, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best abilities to have his availability, and he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been available. So is that that is it? Other things?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a compilation of multiple Who knows? But I

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<v Speaker 1>do know one thing. When he is healthy, that is

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<v Speaker 1>one finishing fool. He is the strong. He is a

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<v Speaker 1>strong guy that loves to fight you. He will battle you,

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<v Speaker 1>he will finish you. He loves hand to hand combat.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of the best finishers I think in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the dude is like distraught. If he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>dominate a guy at the end, he'll give him the

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<v Speaker 1>rabbit punch. He'll give him that, you know, a little

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<v Speaker 1>gut action. He'll do anything to finish guys. That's another issue.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to be drawn penalties unnecessarily and all

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. But that guy wants to compete, man,

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to finish. So I think I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a He belongs to the National Football League. Just gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get everything right, everything calmed down, everything in place, and

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<v Speaker 1>get healthy. See if he can contribute. Alex Redman, he

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<v Speaker 1>is a little nutty, but he is lovable in his

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<v Speaker 1>own brawling sort of way. According to the official league

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<v Speaker 1>stats in Cleveland, the Browns sacked Joe Burrow three times

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<v Speaker 1>and had seven quarterback hits. And there's a common misconception

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<v Speaker 1>that those are separate numbers. They're not right. It might

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<v Speaker 1>be different for Pro Football Focus or football outsiders, but

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<v Speaker 1>according to the official NFL stats, right, a sack counts

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<v Speaker 1>as a quarterback hit, and it should. You shouldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>double you know, double credit forward if your defense right.

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<v Speaker 1>So by official NFL stat keeping, he was hit seven

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<v Speaker 1>times in the Cleveland game. Now that seemed low to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went back and I watched the All twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two video. And there's another thing. If a quarterback gets

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<v Speaker 1>rocked running the ball, that doesn't count as a quarterback hit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's strictly the stat exists for pass rushing, so I

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<v Speaker 1>included runs and I counted up eleven times that Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>was legitimately knocked to the ground, some harder than others

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<v Speaker 1>in the Cleveland game. Is that sustainable for Joe Burrow?

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<v Speaker 1>I asked him that very question, like right after the game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how you doing? Took some shot? I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he feels like a football player when he

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<v Speaker 1>gets hit. He says all the right things. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to see an Andrew Lux situation where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a great player who just takes too many hits,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they're because he's inflicting them a lot on himself

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<v Speaker 1>basically by the manner in which he's playing, or the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line is not up to part line. Is he

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<v Speaker 1>took a ton of hits and he said that's enough,

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<v Speaker 1>No Moss, I'm done out of the game, Star future,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, bright superstar out of the game. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to see that. I definitely don't want to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting hit eleven times, solid contact eleven times times sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>football games adds up quickly. You're looking at one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy six off the top of my head one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy six times during the course of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of hits. That's a lot of and

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<v Speaker 1>you got a hope that some of them was direct

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<v Speaker 1>hit to the head, that were a couple of them

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<v Speaker 1>were missed. There were shots to the head, and you start,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting that done and start scrambling things upstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not good. You don't want to be in concussion

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<v Speaker 1>protocol and everything that goes along with that. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, i'd like to see those decrease by at

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<v Speaker 1>least fifty percent or maybe seventy five percent. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get hit, but you don't want to You

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to see your quarterback get hit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>more than a handful of times. You always want to

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<v Speaker 1>see it less than a handful of times. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you're throwing at sixty one times, you're putting them him

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<v Speaker 1>at risk a hell of a lot more. That's usually

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<v Speaker 1>two football games. You throw it thirty thirty one times

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<v Speaker 1>in a game. It's a lot of pass did one

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<v Speaker 1>game two times the normal? I mean in one football game,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of throws. In the Bengals most recent

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<v Speaker 1>game last Thursday in Cleveland. They threw it to Aj

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<v Speaker 1>Green a lot and didn't get much out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was targeted thirteen times, finished with just three catches

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty nine yards. And going back to July, prior

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<v Speaker 1>to training camp, I spoke to former Bengals wide receiver T. T. J.

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<v Speaker 1>Hushman Zada, and I asked him this question about Aj Green.

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Green turns thirty two on the last day of

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<v Speaker 1>the month. How much great football does he have left

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<v Speaker 1>in him? The way the game of football is now

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<v Speaker 1>like honestly, as can play if he stays healthy, he

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<v Speaker 1>can play at a high level for four to five

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<v Speaker 1>more years. High level, high level, and the game of

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<v Speaker 1>football is different. Like up, I'm forty two, I have

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<v Speaker 1>weighed the same for twenty years. I still in shape,

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<v Speaker 1>I still have ASPS. I only work out a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times a week. The game of football is different

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<v Speaker 1>if guys are standing in shape. AJ in essence, his

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<v Speaker 1>body should be healthy, if it's healthy, if that makes

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<v Speaker 1>any sense, because he's been hurt for the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years and so AJ phenomenal man. I tell people

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, if you want to learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>get off of press coverage. Even if the release isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a great release, it will be a great release by

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<v Speaker 1>watching like AJ is just so violent at the line

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<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage that even if it's not good, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>work because he believes in it. And Yeah, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to AJ reminded people that he's Aj Green. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to that because he doesn't talk a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna tape himself up. And I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know Aj that will, but I'll hype him up. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to him reminded people how did he really is?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Again? That was t J Hushman Zata back

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<v Speaker 1>in July. I'm not going to panic over that last

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<v Speaker 1>game for AJ Green. It was a short week, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think was tough on him considering the hamstring injury

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<v Speaker 1>and training camp and the injuries he's coming back from

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<v Speaker 1>before that. Additionally, Denzel Ward might be one of the

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<v Speaker 1>top two or three cornerbacks in the NFL. I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say Dan Denzel Ward did a great job. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember a game where AJ was targeted thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>times and only at three catches. There's never been one

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<v Speaker 1>ten balls that he doesn't come up with. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't, so I wonder if Darius Slay, who they

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<v Speaker 1>picked up from the troity, three time pro bowler. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if they're gonna put him on AJ all over

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<v Speaker 1>the field like like you know, Cleveland had Ward basically

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<v Speaker 1>on AJ. And he's gonna get He's a Pro Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get If there's a pro bowler in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the secondary, he's gonna get him. You would think,

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<v Speaker 1>unless you know they're so stubborn about note, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna we're not going to travel corners. We're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play right and left corner. AJ Green is the type

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<v Speaker 1>of talent that might make your mind change a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly when you look at the success that DJ Ward had.

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<v Speaker 1>He played, he played them well, he played a good

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<v Speaker 1>football game. And I think they're getting their hands on

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<v Speaker 1>AJ now, hands are really you know, it's it's a big,

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<v Speaker 1>big deal, and the officials aren't aren't really even when

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<v Speaker 1>it's more than five yards down the field and they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting hands on him, it's not being called. And on

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<v Speaker 1>the touchdown that was reversed, he was bear hugged basically

0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.119
<v Speaker 1>coming off the line of screen. It wasn't called in

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<v Speaker 1>Week one against the Chargers, and then he did push

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<v Speaker 1>off a little bit to get started because he was

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<v Speaker 1>getting bear hugged and he gets called. So you would

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<v Speaker 1>think that a guy who's made seven Pro Bowls might

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<v Speaker 1>get a little bit of a benefit of a doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now he's not getting anything. He's really not

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<v Speaker 1>getting much called in there. There's some sticky coverage going on.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some handsy stuff happening. The Thursday night game in

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland a special one for rookie wide receiver t Higgins.

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<v Speaker 1>He was targeted six times in that game and had

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<v Speaker 1>his first three NFL catches, three catches for thirty five yards,

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<v Speaker 1>including an eighteen yard or on a great throw by

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow into a very narrow window. In any case,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the second round pick out of Clemson on his

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<v Speaker 1>first two NFL games. Man, it's feeling like no other,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something always dreamed of and now I'm living

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<v Speaker 1>my dream. You know, I just got to go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and go out there and keep competing and go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and get some ws now. So just like

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<v Speaker 1>with Joe said not too long gone Thursday night when

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<v Speaker 1>he did his interview, I've never lost two in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's been a long time since I've done that.

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<v Speaker 1>Last time I've done now, I was playing basketball in

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<v Speaker 1>high school, So I mean it's been has been a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully he will not experience losing three games in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk lap about the Bengals use of their wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in the Cleveland game. Tyler Boyd got the most

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<v Speaker 1>snaps seventy eight. AJ Green was in for fifty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would expect him to get little breaks here

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<v Speaker 1>and there since he's coming back from the injuries. Tae

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<v Speaker 1>Hagan's got the second most. He was in for sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>more than twice as many as John Ross, who was

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<v Speaker 1>in for twenty eight. Michael Thomas was in more than

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<v Speaker 1>John Ross. He was in for thirty two snaps. Auden

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<v Speaker 1>Tate inactive. Yeah, that one's that one's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, so you think Alex Erickson and

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas will provide special teams plays snaps that Audum Tate

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<v Speaker 1>isn't going to necessarily provide. I guess it came down

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<v Speaker 1>to that in terms of who is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>active for the game. But the snaps, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a meritocracy. You know, there's no there's no way two

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<v Speaker 1>ways about it. I mean, m John Ross's production, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he's quote the third receiver as such, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think they'd have no higher, no, no higher

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<v Speaker 1>than number three. He hasn't really produced. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>meritoxic you produce. If you don't produce, your snaps are

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<v Speaker 1>going to diminish. So te Higgins, I mean, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about how you practice. It's all about you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of rhythm and timing you're starting to see with

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow and some of these guys, because te Higgins

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<v Speaker 1>really didn't work much with Joe at training camp. AJ

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<v Speaker 1>obviously didn't, so John Ross didn't. So those guys are

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<v Speaker 1>obviously getting in a better rhythm and timing with Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow than John Ross is. So it is, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>all about what you see, what the coaches see during practice,

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<v Speaker 1>and meritocracy of you know, who's going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to perform, who's gonna be able to make plays. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why the ten balls that we're in intended for Aj Green.

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<v Speaker 1>For him not to come up with any of them,

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen targets, three catches is so Unaj like, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>there's probably, you know, multiple reasons for it. There's never

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<v Speaker 1>just one reason. But that's got to change. You can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't. You can't target your number one guy thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>times and only harvest three receptions for thirty yards. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it was, I forgot to mention Alex Rikson. I ran

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<v Speaker 1>down those snapcounts, by the way, he had eight snaps

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<v Speaker 1>at wide receiver. I don't want to be killed the

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<v Speaker 1>play calling guy, because Zack Taylor and Brian Callahan know

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<v Speaker 1>a million more things about offense than I ever will.

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<v Speaker 1>But I scratch my head that they are not finding

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<v Speaker 1>something for John Ross to do chet sweeps, some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of packs that'll short Cross to try to take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of his speed. He really hasn't displayed the ability on

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<v Speaker 1>a consistent basis to run way down field and catch

0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:41.000
<v Speaker 1>forty or fifty yard throws. But can we get him

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<v Speaker 1>the ball close to the line of scrimmage and see

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<v Speaker 1>if he can run away from somebody. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>they better start figuring out a way to get big

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<v Speaker 1>plays somehow, because they have one in each area twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three yard touchdown on a quarterback draw from Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>and one twenty three yard pass which was a touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>to cj Uzama. Those are the only splash plays of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty yards more this season for the season, and we're talking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, quite a few plays. So you have to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out some way to get some kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>burst explosion chunks. Got to get some of them going.

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<v Speaker 1>They're chunkless, they don't they don't have any chunk plays

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Got to figure out a way and looking

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<v Speaker 1>at him physically, Bass's got everyone the forty in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the National Football League. Yeah, I mean some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, little motion alley screen or something.

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean when when they have hit him on a

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<v Speaker 1>slant he split the safeties and gone to the house.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's frustrating. It's frustrating when he's not used.

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<v Speaker 1>It's frustrating to see him not execute when he is used.

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<v Speaker 1>He may be as frustrating a Bengal player to watch

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<v Speaker 1>as there's been in quite a while. He really is.

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<v Speaker 1>Prior to last year in training camp, it's seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>there was going to be somebody in jet sweep or

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:08.640
<v Speaker 1>fly sweep motion on almost every play. The forty nine

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Ers do it a ton, Chiefs do it a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Rams do it a lot. I've seen it more in

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<v Speaker 1>practice than we've seen it in games. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the forty nine ers. One of their touchdowns this

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<v Speaker 1>past week was there was so much going on in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of motion. They had nine defensive players in a

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<v Speaker 1>ball in the middle of the football field and it

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 1>was a walk in a little short reverse touchdown run,

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<v Speaker 1>but it had like five pieces of motion to it.

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>It was like unbelievable. It's like, at this point, I

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 1>can't trust my eyes. My eyes are deceiving me. My

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:43.280
<v Speaker 1>eyes are telling me this, my brain's telling me that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's like there's so much going on. I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>And the running game too, where's the pin and pull?

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon was killing it with the pin and pull

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<v Speaker 1>getting outside. I haven't seen much pin and pull. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen a whole lot of it, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>know in h in the second week in this game

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<v Speaker 1>against Cleveland, Cleveland played against Baltimore. Baltimore's offense is so unique.

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>They threw out the fronts and everything. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>had Garrett in a four eye technique inside and the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive tackle just blowing up the field to try to

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<v Speaker 1>disrupt some of the running game. You're not gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're not gonna line up like that against them.

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<v Speaker 1>And they lined up in wide seven and nine techniques,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can understand, you know, hammering the ball between

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<v Speaker 1>the tackles. Some try to come downhill and pound them. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to see some of that pin and pull.

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 1>That was How many times do we see Joe Mixon,

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, timing it perfectly, letting his offensive lineman work

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 1>tight end, pinning, tackle blocking down center, and guard pulling.

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>They're getting their blocks. Man, it's good looking stuff. Got

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 1>to see it. Like to see that again. It's interesting

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>that Joe Mixon because it feels like he's not getting

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:51.360
<v Speaker 1>enough touches. He's averaging twenty a game. He is fifteen

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 1>carries five catches a game. Basically, they're they're they're putting

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:58.439
<v Speaker 1>the ball in his hands. They are yep, they're just

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>right now. They're not getting any explosives everything. I remember

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>saying it multiple times because I'm thinking it again, and

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>I remember saying it during the Thursday night game Root

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Canal Surgery. Every drive is like, man, you go on

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 1>a fourteen play drive for forty one yards. You don't

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:21.119
<v Speaker 1>even average four yards of play on their first drive

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and settle for a field goal. That's root canal surgery.

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, man a chevits, you know. And the thing

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 1>is the Philadelphia Eagles. Looking at their run defense, Dan,

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 1>They're only allowing three point six to carry, seventh best

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. They gave up a forty yard run.

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Take that run away that they had seventy five carries,

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.919
<v Speaker 1>So now seventy four carries two hundred and forty one

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>yards three point two five yards are rushed. They're not

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.439
<v Speaker 1>an easy football team to run the ball on this

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>defensive line. Fletcher Cox, immovable object. I mean, I'm telling

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you they got they got, they got some guys. The guy,

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.199
<v Speaker 1>the guy that I see playing pretty well again as

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:04.919
<v Speaker 1>Malik Jackson. This dude, strong, explosive. You know, he's in

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:09.160
<v Speaker 1>the rotation of three defensive tackles. Telling you not gonna

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>be easy street running the ball against these guys either.

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.879
<v Speaker 1>You're not making me happy. Dave Lapplan, let's hit one

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>more topic. After having two sacks in the opener, the

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Bengals did not have a sack or even a quarterback

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 1>hit on Baker Mayfield. So, Carl Lawson, what's the problem

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 1>with the pass rush. The struggled to stop to run.

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 1>You don't get that many attempts to just have dropped

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:33.360
<v Speaker 1>back passes to get after the quarterback. So we got

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to fix that problem first. And then you know, obviously

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>we have talent and the pass rusher should go get

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:41.919
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback. But that's the narrative is, oh, you you

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 1>guts to struggled to get out to the quarterback. But

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, when you're in third and short or put

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>teams in doing plays and boots and things of that nature,

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't really get that many drop back opportunities. As

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you see one of the best teams in league, and

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>then some defenses, you know, and then last year the

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>team that had the most sacks wasn't think it's Tampa Bay.

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>They stopped to run first, and then they had to

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 1>guys go get the quarterback. Um, Pittsburgh did a good

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>job of stopping a run. Then they get to go

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:05.919
<v Speaker 1>get the quarterbacks. So people know what we could do.

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>People don't want to sit back, and you've seen what

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 1>happened at the end of the last season. The pass

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.479
<v Speaker 1>russ picked up. That's because we were you know, more sounded.

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 1>We started playing again better against the run. So but

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's easy to go sit there and be

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 1>a writer and be like, oh, the past rush sucks.

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, no, we got to stop the run

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>first so we can get those people in the positions

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>to do that. I mean, Carl, how frustrating is it

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to have writers like us? Uh? Oh no, I mean

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>it's not frustrating. I mean rantings do every day, So

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>like the narrative can change what you write in the day,

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:37.400
<v Speaker 1>or this staves sucked next day. I've had so many

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:41.919
<v Speaker 1>experiences that with media just talking when I was at

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 1>all and just like trashing me like a bout injuries

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>or or people on the fans talking to me. So

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:49.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean it doesn't really affect me at all. Like

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>this is this is your job, this is how you

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>make your money. I'm not knocking you for your craft

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>at all. It's not frustrating at all. But like you

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 1>said that the narrative can change the next day. You

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, The right can change the next day,

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and guests the job of that to do that's us,

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, But until then you're gonna keep saying we sucks.

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I'm not mad at you at all,

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>like you're still offered it. We're cool. I love that.

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I tell you what. Carl Lawson's got a pretty good

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:16.360
<v Speaker 1>grasp on how this works. You play lousy, we all

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>say you stink. I turned it around the next day

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna love you. But he's also right about

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the total inability to stop the run making it impossible

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>to get after the quarterback. Had a high school coach

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>played offensive defensive line in high school. In the high

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>school coach or my d line coach said, look, you

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>have to make them, or we have to earn the

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>right to rush the passer. It's not they're not going

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to give you the right to earn the pastor you

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>have to earn it, meaning control the running game, put

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>him in bad down and distance situations, and get after

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback. It is, that's simple. It's it's very very true.

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>When you're giving up one hundred and eighty five a

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>game on the ground, your thirtieth in the NFL, hard

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to hard to pressure the quarterback. Plus when Cleveland, when

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>you know they get make Baker Mayfield a lot of pocket,

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>a bunch changed in launch point. That's tough. You know,

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>instead of a guy just being seven to nine yards

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>away from the line of screens depending on the five

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>or seven step drop like a statue. The only guys

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>they're going to play this year that plays like that

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>is Philip Rivers. Every other quarterback on their schedule has

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>some movement skills, so they're only going to play against

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Philip Rivers, who they know exactly where he's going to

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>be every time he throws it pretty much one time.

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>So you better start stopping the run and put them

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>in third and long situations where these guys are going

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>to at least be in the pocket for a while

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 1>before they try to extend and create plays like every quarterback,

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>including Joe Burrow, is doing for the Bengals. I mean,

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that's part of the quarterback package these days is everybody's

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>not fran Tarkington, but they want them to be more

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>like Fran Tarkenton than Johnny You. They don't want him

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>just standing in the pocket, you know, and and throwing

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the football. That's not the NFL these days. So yeah,

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to earn the right to rush the passer.

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 1>For the younger audience out there, Fran Tarkenton was the

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson of the sixties and seventies. Need proof, Google

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>search fran Tarkenton scrambling and watch some video on YouTube

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>to see what I mean. One of the Bengals best

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 1>performers so far this season is kick returner Brandon Wilson.

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>He leads the NFL with a forty three point seven

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 1>yard average on his three returns, and that's more than

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>ten yards better than anybody else in the league. And

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>he's not the only standout on special teams. Kevin Huber

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>is averaging more than fifty three yards on his first

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>eight punts. And I spoke to the bengals longest tenured

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>player this week. Kevin, I heard you say in a

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>recent interview that your goal when you got into the

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>NFL was to punt until you were thirty five years old.

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>You made it, but it sounds like you might have

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to update that goal. Yeah. You know, when I first started,

0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>my goal was, you know, back when I was a

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>young twenty something year old, I thought it'd be a

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty good moles on a place weels thirty five. So

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>that was what I I don't know why that number

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of came out, but that was my goal. So

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I reached that, and now you know, the next goals

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>to plays on forty, so a couple more years for that.

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Your first punt of the year was a seventy yarder

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and we're not talking about a bouncing roll seventy yarder.

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>It flew about sixty two yards from the line of scrimmage.

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Were you like, WHOA, ielt good to start the year? Yeah? Yeah,

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I came off pretty good. Obviously, like to have a

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>better bounce keep by the end zone, but you know,

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>it was one of those things. It's, you know, no

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>preseason games, just you know, you just want to get

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>a good hit on the ball to skip the year off,

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>start off right, so hanging time to be better. But

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I was happy with the hit itself. And you know,

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll take a seventy fifty you know, all day long. Yeah,

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>fifty net after seventy gross. Right, we're chatting with Kevin Huber.

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>You're averaging fifty three and a half yards so far

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>this year per punt. And I asked Darren Simmons the

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>other day what's gotten into Kevin Hubert, and he said

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>he thinks the lack of OTAs and many camps might

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>have helped. Do you agree it was kind of like

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>the lockout year where you just kind of get ready

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>for the season, you know, you just instead of getting

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>ready to go for OTAs and you know, and then

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.239
<v Speaker 1>you kind of calm down in the summer and then

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>pick back up in training camp. It's just, you know,

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I just kind of took this year and I just

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really rush anything. I just let it build

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>up until we got the training camp, and that way,

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>by the season I was ready to go. So I

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>think I was probably more fresh coming to the year

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 1>than I've ever been in the past, and just really

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>took it slower this year, knowing that, you know, we

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 1>weren't going to have you know, all the games, so

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>it just really just took some more time. Probably lifted

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>more this year than I ever had before, just because

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I had more time to do that and just really

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>got myself ready for week one versus ready for OTAs

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and ready for training camp. How do you think your

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>legs strength compares at thirty five too when you broke

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>into the league twelve years ago, it's probably you know,

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably just as you know, just as

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 1>strong as it was. And then I've had a couple

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>of years where I was probably strong on him now,

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>But I think overall, probably you know a much similar

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you know strength than I was when I first came out.

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I think now I just know how to utilize it

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>better and get more out of it than I did then.

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I think my form and my technique and just knowledge

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 1>of the game and when I need out of a

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>certain situation has really changed, which has helped me to

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, use leg strength when I need it, but

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 1>also be able to back off when any too as well.

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Kevin is the holder. You were obviously the closest person

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to Randy Bullock when he missed his game tying attempt

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>in Week one. Could you tell what happened right away? Um?

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I just knew that the hits sounded different. You know,

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't get to see the ball flight. I get

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>to see like the aftermath. I just knew, you know,

0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the ball. It just it wasn't the same kind of thought.

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>So I knew something that had happened. And then once

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I looked up and saw that he was grabbing his leg,

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I didn't know if he had um

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>pulled something to ur something. I had no idea what

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>was going on. Um, So you know, it felt so

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>bad for him Um, but I know, you know, he

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>came back last week and had a great game, and

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>you know he hasn't He's been, you know, more committed

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>now than you know, than I've ever seen him before

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>to you know, kind of to get back to, you know,

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>what we know we can do. And you know, I

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.879
<v Speaker 1>think he showed that last week. UM, on our last

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 1>game and he made all his kicks. He had great kickoffs,

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm man pretty common he'll be able to do

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that the rest of the year. A couple more questions

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>for punter Kevin Huber. Darren Simmons had his contract run

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>out at the end of last season, and Lapp and

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I both thought that there was a decent chance he

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 1>would move on to another team. How happy were you

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>when the Bengals were able to retain him. Yeah, I

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>think that was huge. Um. You know, I think he's

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>a great coach. I think he's probably the best coach

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL especial teams wise. Um. And the fact

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.919
<v Speaker 1>that we have him is huge. And you know he's

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>able to help me individually with punning because he's punt

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>in the past, but I like it better for how

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>he can get the other guys ready for a game.

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 1>And you know, for me specific is the punt protection guys.

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>He's dealt the short end of the stick, you know,

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 1>week in and week out because he's the last guy

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.320
<v Speaker 1>to know who's gonna get activated or and activated. So

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:25.320
<v Speaker 1>he's got to get every guy ready. And you know,

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 1>there's no look that our guys haven't seen going into

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>a game. And that's a lot of confidence for me

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>knowing that, you know, whatever a team throws at us,

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>our guys are going to protect it. So the fact

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>that he got signed back and you know he's now

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 1>here two or three more years of that is m

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>that's huge and that was a big confidence thing for

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>me as well, to be able to, you know, going

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the season knowing that you know, no matter who we

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 1>have on the team, thirty of you ready to go.

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.320
<v Speaker 1>So Coen, full circle back to the start of the interview.

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>If the goal now is to punt until you are forty,

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>hopefully that'll be the case. But have you given much

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>thought to what you're going to do when you are

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 1>no longer punting in the NFL? I actually got to

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 1>ask that question. I think it was the last night

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>yesterday some that I always think about that but it's

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:14.399
<v Speaker 1>always you know, it's the changes from year to year,

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>and you know from day to day is what interests me.

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I really liked the real estate field. What part of

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>real estate I would get into? Not really sure, but

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really like, you know, doubting on one thing.

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Kind of If something comes my way that interests me,

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I'll I'll pursue it. But no real like set plans

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>right now. Just something comes on my way and I

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>like it, I'll try it out, keep blasting away, and

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to worry about it for a few

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>more years. Well that's the goal. Hey, congratulations on a

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>great start. I appreciate your time. Best of luck this

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 1>week against Eagles. Thanks appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Now time to turn our attention to this week's opponent,

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the going to Philadelphia Eagles. Michael bar Can host the

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Eagles pre postgame shows on NBC Sports Philadelphia, and he

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.879
<v Speaker 1>joined lapping me this week. I'm a Bengals game plan

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>show here in Cincinnati. An O and two start is

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.919
<v Speaker 1>being seen as well. It's Burrows rookie year. They're bound

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>to be some growing pains. How is an O and

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>two start being received in the City of Brotherly Love. Well,

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>it's as you might expect, you know, in fact, and

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I don't know if Fox did

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 1>this or if the Eagles did it. I'm hoping it

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>was Fox. But if you watched any of the game,

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 1>you heard the Birds running off the field after one

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.880
<v Speaker 1>of several miscues, and I'm being kind saying several, and

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>you heard booze if you were watching the telecast, and

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, are they booing them in their own stadium

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>with no fans. People think the season is on the brink,

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.359
<v Speaker 1>even at O and two, and with the Bengals coming up,

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know, anything can happen on Sunday. There's no

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>reason the Bengals can't get win number one, and then

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>they've got to fly and play San Francisco. They got

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Alison the first date. Um, it's going to be a

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>real uphill battle for the Eagles from here on out.

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>They should have blasted Washington in that first game, and

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>they had every opportunity to beat the Rams as well

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 1>as good as the Rams are, and it was it

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.439
<v Speaker 1>was their own miscuse. It was their own sloppy play,

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 1>it was their own poor play calling. And I don't

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 1>know if that improves in week number three, I just

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>don't what do you guys think, you know, I'm looking

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>at Wentz and uh, he gets sacked five times in

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the first twenty five plays against the Redskins, and and

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>that that that changes your clock a little bit. I

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of it altered his clock. Now. To me, it

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>looks like he's pressing and he's become a turnover machine.

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Five giveaways, most in the NFL six by the team.

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>He's responsible for five of them, four interceptions and lost fumble.

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the dude is just he's now he wants

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>to get it out of his hand so quickly as

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>mechanics have fallen apart his you know, his form. I mean,

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>he looks like he's he's definitely, you know, definitely he's struggling.

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's something that can be remedied by,

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, one good game against a team that's struggling

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>as well against the Bengals. But man, he looks like

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 1>a different guy to me right now. Yeah, I don't

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 1>know if it could be remedied, Dave, although it did

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>happen in somecembers last year and then he led the

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 1>team the last four games to the playoffs, and then

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 1>he got knocked out against Seattle. Unfortunately. I think all

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 1>of that has to in some sense form who you

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>are as a quarterback. He's just getting blasted physically, but

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>also he continues to give up his body, as the

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 1>hockey guys say, and I don't think that's a good idea.

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I think he needs to be more more careful. And

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>this week, week number two, you saw what happened week

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 1>one with the sacks, but week number two, the line

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 1>protected him. And it's his inaccuracy, as you spoke of.

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>He's not throwing the ball and placing it where it

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 1>needs to go. And there was one play in particular

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>to Dallas Goddard. Goddard's wide open, he throws behind him

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>on his back shoulder and God had almost got blasted.

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>There a couple other plays like that. The same with

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 1>the Sean Jackson. In fact, Jackson didn't have a catch

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:09.479
<v Speaker 1>in the first half and then comes back and leads

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the team in receptions with six. But it's something I

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 1>really go back to the departure of Frank Reich is

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 1>now with Indianapolis and John D. Filippo, who was the

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks coach, and I think sometimes and then you can say, Dave,

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>you can speak more to this better than I. But

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 1>sometimes there's just a chemistry between coach and player. There's

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>a comfort zone and there's an ability to make the

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 1>player understand better than when with other coaches and whatever.

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.879
<v Speaker 1>It is this chemistry now with Press Taylor, who's really

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:48.279
<v Speaker 1>the facto offensive coordinator, and the quarterbacks coach, and Doug

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Peterson and his words from the locker room that perhaps

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.879
<v Speaker 1>you know Wentz doesn't always listen to the play call

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>and that he calls the plays that he wants to call,

0:40:57.360 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if Peterson's on board with that.

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.319
<v Speaker 1>So there's a whole bunch of tumult going on right now.

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>But I really think it started with that with the

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 1>departure of Reich and Di Filippo. After the Super Bowl,

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>we're talking to Eagles pregame and post game host Michael Barkan.

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:15.760
<v Speaker 1>We know the Eagles have had injuries on the OH line.

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>How is the group that they have now okay, below average?

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>How would you consider these guys? I think it's okay.

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so easy to just say, oh, these

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 1>guys can't play. I mean, you know they're not Jason

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Peters on the left side. It's not Lane Johnson. And

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>even Jason Peters isn't Jason Peters anymore. But I think

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 1>this line is all right. You know, they still have Peters,

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:42.440
<v Speaker 1>still have Kelsey. Peters has not been a major issue.

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>As old as he is, I think I think he

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 1>came back in good shape and I think he's all right.

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>They've got this rookie at right guard, Nate Herbig, and

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:53.240
<v Speaker 1>then Lane Johnson, who missed the first game, but Jack Driscoll,

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>this rookie came in and he was okay. For Lane

0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Johnson the first week. It wasn't because of him that

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 1>they got all those sacks. And Johnson comes back in

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 1>at right tackle and the line kept Carson Wentz clean. Um,

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.399
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think there's an issue there. I think

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>there is an issue with the with the tight end,

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Zach Ertz, the All Pro tight end. He's not getting

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>the ball very much. And as you may have heard,

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 1>he's complained about his contract situation and he's expressed that

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 1>he's not he's unsure that the Eagles want him to

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 1>finish his career in Philadelphia. Well maybe they don't. I

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but don't cry about it, start catching some

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.359
<v Speaker 1>balls and maybe you leave to get a new deal.

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 1>He's got a contract, by the way, that always you know,

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, I'm sure, Dave, you gotta love that the

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 1>arrow which you played, you know, you got a contract

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and plays pays some pretty good money. Finish the darn

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 1>thing off, you know, I know you're Zach Ertz. But

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and then Dallas Goddard, honest the goodness, who was drafted

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago, and a lot of people

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>raise their eyebrows because we thought many they got a

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>top fight tight hand and you get in, you bring

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>it in another one. And then sometimes it looks like

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 1>he just doesn't know what the plays are. Sometimes he's

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>yelling back to Wentz like do I got here? Is

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 1>it over here? And so that's a problem. But he

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 1>is a physical specimen. So but I'd like to see

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Ertz get the ball a little bit more. And then

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 1>there's Doug Peterson, who I don't know if you've heard

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 1>or seen, is kind of like his mentor Eddy Reid,

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>who got his first trophy, which is nice because he

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 1>was beloved this town. But he doesn't run the ball,

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't run the ball, then they get their

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.360
<v Speaker 1>brains beat in. Then he runs the ball and usually

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that'll send him back to a more fifty fifth not

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.800
<v Speaker 1>it's never fifty fifty, but to a more fifty fifty

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:48.720
<v Speaker 1>type of offense. And they still lost against the Rams,

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>But I think that had more to do with Carson

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Wentz and his inaccuracy and his throwing into double coverage.

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what's going on with him right now,

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:00.439
<v Speaker 1>but they got to figure out quickly, you know, let's

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>flip to the other side of the ball. Jim Schwartz,

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean defensively, he's the kind of guy that he

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to blitz all that much. He wants to

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 1>rush four drop seven. Have four really good rush guys.

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 1>They don't even really twist and stunt all that much.

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 1>He just wants to overpower you with good players in

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 1>the pass rush and then play good sound defense on

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 1>the back end. That's what it looks like he's doing

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 1>in the early stages here. And shoot their top ten

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and yards allowed yards per play their seventh, I mean

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:30.839
<v Speaker 1>they're fifth and yards passing aloud. Has it just been

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:34.879
<v Speaker 1>bad field position because of the turnovers? I think that's

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the way it was in week number one, and I

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>guess to some sense week number two. But these guys,

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 1>there was one play at the end of the game

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>last week where Josh Sweat is it's kind of spying

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Jared Goff and Goss out there, and Sweats just kind

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 1>of jogging like he's not gonna run. He's not gonna run,

0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and oh my goodness, he run and then then he's

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 1>too late and Cop ends up picking picking up six yards.

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>And so I think these these guys need a wake

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 1>up call, Um, Brandon Graham, how about trying to, you know,

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 1>set an edge for everybody. Fletcher Cox has not been

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:15.879
<v Speaker 1>what he can be. He's not been his Pro Bowl self.

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 1>But the other thing is Dave. They've got linebackers that

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:24.360
<v Speaker 1>should be safeties or Nathan Gary. He's hand tackling guys.

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>He's undersized. And the Eagles have long believed, indeed, if

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>not by stated uh intent, they have long believed that

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.240
<v Speaker 1>the linebackers really don't have a big place in the defense.

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 1>And so they have these linebackers that really are not

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:40.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're either playing out a position or they're

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 1>just not as good as they need to be, Um

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Malcolm Jenkins. They let go to the to the Saints,

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 1>as you know. And then they moved Jalen Mills, who

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>was a corner and he was an okay corner, but

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 1>they moved him to strong safety, Rodney Mclouds at free safety,

0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and then they brought in Darius save Detroit and that

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:04.399
<v Speaker 1>was a great and crav Craivon LeBlanc. LeBlanc is out

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 1>there as the nickelback with Avante Maddox is the right corner.

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 1>It's um, you know it just it has not worked.

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>They've looked really bad. And with regard to m to

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Jim Schwartz, I guess the bottom line is does your

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>team have more points than the other team when the

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 1>when the clockage zero. But Schwartz gives up tons of

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:29.880
<v Speaker 1>yards all the time and tons of points, and everybody

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of glosses over it because they went to the

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl in eighteen and then you know nineteen Wentz

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 1>has hurt all season. There's always an excuse. But to me,

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:44.320
<v Speaker 1>lets Schwartz's defenses give up way too much yards and

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 1>points and that's the bottom line. Our guest is Michael

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Barkan Eagles pregame post game host on NBC Sports Philadelphia.

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Here's my last question, Michael, you mentioned Jalen Hurts. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a curious draft pick. You've got. Carson went

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<v Speaker 1>second overall pick in the draft MVP candidate before he

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<v Speaker 1>got hurt a few years ago. Did you find it

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<v Speaker 1>strange that they selected a quarterback in the second round

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<v Speaker 1>with the other needs they have on the roster, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the entire NFL establishment found it strange that

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<v Speaker 1>you take a guy with the fifty third overall pick

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<v Speaker 1>when you've got a Pro Bowl quarterback and a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who were not for an injury in his second year

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<v Speaker 1>would have likely won d MVP. I think everybody thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was bizarre. And then last week, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you know this, excuse me. He had been inactive

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<v Speaker 1>in week one and Nate Sudfeld had been the number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Sudfeld was inactive in week two and Hurts was the

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<v Speaker 1>number two QB, and then he was in there for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of snaps. They put him out at wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>But at some point you got to ask yourself, if

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<v Speaker 1>this is the guy that you're gonna use him, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna use him as a decoy, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>use him at some point don't you. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to otherwise the defense is just gonna say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they put him in there every every play they ever

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<v Speaker 1>go to him. So at some point he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to get the ball, whether it's under center, or whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pass from Wentz or or it's a wildcat formation.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is the you know, you start getting into

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<v Speaker 1>the into the weeds with this, and you can go

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<v Speaker 1>all day because that Howie Roseman is a general manager

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<v Speaker 1>of Philadelphia Eagles, and a lot of people questioned that selection.

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<v Speaker 1>They questioned many of his selections through the through the years.

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<v Speaker 1>And you may recall that when Chip Kelly came in,

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<v Speaker 1>they spent one year together and then Chip basically said

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<v Speaker 1>either that guy goes or I go. And at that

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<v Speaker 1>point everyone thought Chip would still a genius, so they

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Lewis, the owner, said yeah, okay, we're gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>you how at the end of the hall and stay

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<v Speaker 1>out of Chip's way. And then they brought him back

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<v Speaker 1>when they fired Chip, and how he was celebrated after

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<v Speaker 1>they won the Super Bowl. And he has had some

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<v Speaker 1>good drafts, but I think a lot of them have

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<v Speaker 1>been wasted drafts. And I don't mean just at the

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<v Speaker 1>number one pick, I mean entire draft and so um.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that that happens with with top flight

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<v Speaker 1>gms and top flight teams that are there every single year.

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<v Speaker 1>The most important position, in my opinion, I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear your guys on this. The most important position in

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<v Speaker 1>any organization is the guy picking the talent. Because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can be inferior a coach, and you can have

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<v Speaker 1>some players that are a little off. But the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's selecting your talent needs to know what talent is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I question that at times with Howie I really

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<v Speaker 1>do play? I was going to say play by play

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<v Speaker 1>guy is most important, followed closely by the person picking

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<v Speaker 1>the talent. You're right, You're right. I'm sorry, Sorry Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right though. I mean I'm expecting a

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<v Speaker 1>Hurts package, you know, gadget gimmick stuff. When you're struggling,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to come up with something. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>are going to come up one final question. Thanks, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for Cardinals. Are you kidding? Sc guy? I know we're

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<v Speaker 1>on Marshall Street, right there we go im Street. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Get a little slice, all right? So I

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<v Speaker 1>thought the Bengals are having a hard time finishing. The

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia Eagles have scored three points in the second half

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<v Speaker 1>and two football games they've been all scored thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>to three. No, they've been shut out in the third quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>three points in the fourth quarter. I mean, my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about not finishing. What's up again? I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>Peterson And I always thought a strength of his was

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<v Speaker 1>the adjustment at halftime, thinking, well, it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get worse. They're not going to double up on the

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<v Speaker 1>score or they're they're they're not going to fail to score.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what's That's what's happened, Dave. That's exactly what's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there's some kind of communications gap going

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<v Speaker 1>on with Peterson and Wentz. I don't know what that is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the defense is just they need to

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<v Speaker 1>get They need to get kicked in the butt. They

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<v Speaker 1>really do. And Jim Schwartz to me, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>defining game for him. But you can do before it

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<v Speaker 1>just one more if I can have one more question,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you making of the Bengals offense? Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw what happened how he threw away Game number one,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a shame. He's a rookie with that little

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<v Speaker 1>shovel path that got picked off. Um, I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what happened last week, But what do you

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<v Speaker 1>make of this guy in this offense? Well, he was

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven for sixty one in the in week two,

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<v Speaker 1>only sixty one yeah, yeah, second most ever by a rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had the most completions buy a rookie. He's

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<v Speaker 1>he's um. I think he's he's cut from a good cloth.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got some five or two him. He's the real deal.

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<v Speaker 1>He's far from their biggest problem, that's for sure. And

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<v Speaker 1>after the interception that you referenced in week one, he

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<v Speaker 1>threw a game winning touchdown pass with seven seconds to go,

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<v Speaker 1>they got wiped out by a semi bogus call, right

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<v Speaker 1>so off he bounced back nicely from that. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about him. He has a short memory. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He moves on, He compartmentalizes. He uh, he doesn't let

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't let one bad play turn in multiples. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's pretty sharp. He's he's a mature guy, very mature,

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<v Speaker 1>very patient. I think he's gonna be I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be around for a long time. Yeah, Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>love watching him play at LSU, and I love the sensibility.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love when he came at ed Burrow Spell within

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<v Speaker 1>eau right XU. And I'm really I'm really looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to seeing him play. He gets it. He'll have much

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