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Speaker 1: Hello everybody. It is let's see what is it? Thursday

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Speaker 1: the twenty ninth. It's gonna be episode one and the

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Speaker 1: only episode of Room Service Diaries by your choice Jersey

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Speaker 1: City edition. Well, you barely made it to this one guy.

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Speaker 1: My name is look Thomas. This is Brian Campbell. We

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Speaker 1: are the host of Morning Combat on You can go

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Speaker 1: to YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat for more information.

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Speaker 2: You know about us, it's MK all day nearly every day.

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Speaker 1: You say that a lot. You certainly say that a lot.

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Speaker 1: We will do this for about an hour and some change.

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Speaker 1: And this is where we just go off the rails

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Speaker 1: and say things will later regret.

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Speaker 3: That's really the aim of this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Forty out of a plastic bottle they have.

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Speaker 3: They call these shatterproof, but I don't really need my

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Speaker 3: forty to be shattered.

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Speaker 2: It's a forty two. It's in honor of Jackie Robinson.

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Speaker 1: Well, the key here is that and what you fail

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Speaker 1: to realize is this is actual malt liquor, other than

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Speaker 1: that swine fluid that you've been drinking previously.

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Speaker 3: So let's crack it open, shall we.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's for all the people out there who

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Speaker 2: supported us, especially the ones who hate us, like like

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Speaker 2: uh snarky ginger and.

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Speaker 3: Uh she likes me.

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Speaker 2: And uh Kyle gooshu that guy hates me. Right, let's yeah,

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Speaker 2: who was the second one? Your name's just some guy

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Speaker 2: every single show he tears me down, but he watches

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Speaker 2: so you know, I mean, look.

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Speaker 3: Listen when it's hard to tell it.

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Speaker 2: And he still had a regular audience after some atrocities.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, Are you planning on flying any planes

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Speaker 1: in any towers or kind of a comment?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 3: What do you think? Disgusting? Right? See, here's how you

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Speaker 3: know it's not beer. Right, you can taste.

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Speaker 2: Much more alcohol, Like I mean, you're gonna act tough

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Speaker 2: like I haven't drinking a shitload of malt liquor.

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not acting tough where two dudes in their forties

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Speaker 1: weren't the opposite of tough.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying it tastes like you ever see those

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Speaker 2: those ice luges that like at parties that young white

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Speaker 2: people they put their mouth to like it. Imagine if

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Speaker 2: you used my ass crack as the as the luge

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Speaker 2: point the point of losation. You know what I'm saying. No,

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Speaker 2: this is and you poured you know this is what

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Speaker 2: it tastes like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you up just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: All right, and we're back room service diaries brought to

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Speaker 2: you by.

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Speaker 3: Did you nap? How was your nap? Your old bitch?

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna tell you about the job right now.

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Speaker 3: People.

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Speaker 2: People don't realize this, to be honest, to be in

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Speaker 2: front of a camera, Luke, Look, whether you would believe

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Speaker 2: that what we do in front of a camera is Look,

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Speaker 2: I've described your style as very masturbatory. Okay, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. My style is very predatory. I'm looking

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Speaker 2: to to enter your face hole or your ear hole,

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Speaker 2: however your advanced. You know you're acquiring this and I

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Speaker 2: want to feel like a blond man in an orgy.

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Speaker 2: I want to feel around a little bit in there. Okay.

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Speaker 2: It takes a lot of effort, right to do what.

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Speaker 2: It's hard goddamn work making something this, you know pretty

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Speaker 2: Look look this, you know wash on camera. What I'm

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Speaker 2: saying is taking it from the inside and throwing it

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Speaker 2: and imagine doing that all day mk uh. Show malcol

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Speaker 2: is filming a documentary on our return to the Bomb

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Speaker 2: shelters are okay. You know we're doing live streams with

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Speaker 2: showtime by the end of a workday. Screaming into a microphone, Luke,

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Speaker 2: there's very little left in the tank. All right.

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Speaker 1: I stopped listening to you five minutes ago. Just want

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Speaker 1: point that out.

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Speaker 2: We will be freestyling right now, but we do have

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Speaker 2: questions to answer from the listeners. We appreciate everybody who

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Speaker 2: went out to Apple Podcasts and reviewed our show and

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Speaker 2: asked their question through that prism. That's the only way

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Speaker 2: we will answer you. And as I said, Luke, we're

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Speaker 3: Well, we got some work to do if you want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's start tickling, tickle in the rim a little.

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Speaker 2: If you know where I'm going with that.

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Speaker 1: Let's see here we go. What fight or fights inspired

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Speaker 1: your combat sports fandom?

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Speaker 1: Look, I mean the original UFC that I saw was

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Speaker 1: the boxing side, we talked about this. I think the

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Speaker 1: last time we did this it was the Mike Tyson era.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in the Mike Tyson era and it was,

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Speaker 2: About how first memory I have of watching a fight

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Speaker 2: whe was like replays of Haggler Hearns, which obviously was

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Speaker 2: All right. I got into early UFC like you, But

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Speaker 2: let's let's frame it like this, because UFC was a

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Speaker 2: different animal it was. Watching it in the beginning was

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Speaker 2: like I always say, it's like watching Faces of Death.

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Speaker 2: It's like you're watching for the for the raw ridiculousness.

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Speaker 2: up for the for the Ken Shamra Koys Gracie rematch.

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Speaker 2: But in hindsight, Luke I had a pay per view

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm not sure how to do.

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Speaker 2: We have to go, like we have to afford it,

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Speaker 2: it was like the first big MM fight that you

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Speaker 3: The problem was I was always playing catch up until

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Speaker 2: Because you couldn't watch it. Can we remind people of that.

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Speaker 2: There's long stretches where you couldn't watch that.

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Speaker 1: And so I would catch up long after the fact.

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Speaker 1: It was one of the Rubble on the Rocks. I

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Speaker 1: It was actually not, it was a little bit before

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Speaker 2: Wrecked his ship like it was a strip club parking

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Speaker 2: lot fight, which is what he won this one. Oh okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: And the reason why I use the reason why I

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Speaker 1: I was on the card. I remember that and Penn,

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Speaker 2: He could Chuck Rampage I was my first year working

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Speaker 2: Sort of?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I mean he's very fat, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: all right, you know, I like shitty, old guy freak fights.

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Speaker 2: We got Anderston Silva this Saturday, which we're you know,

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Speaker 2: Who would win? Who would win that? Right now? I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting for my beard to just turn completely white.

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Speaker 1: I've lost interest in having any color anymore.

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Speaker 2: And this conversation, apparently, and.

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Speaker 1: This conversation, all right, next one, do your higher uposite

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Speaker 1: Showtime ever ask you to dedicate twenty five minutes to

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Speaker 1: dong review segments every episode.

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Speaker 3: No, I can't say that they do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they don't. But let me tell you this about Showtime.

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Speaker 2: They are the label that pays Man and you luke

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Speaker 2: to a large degree. Shout out to CBS via com CBS,

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Speaker 2: shout out to everybody that pays us luke. True or false.

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Speaker 2: There are many times that you and I f around

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Speaker 2: up meeting, expecting people to say, all right, good show,

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Speaker 2: but that was too far. Not only is it never

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Speaker 2: got involved over that Pat Tellman joke. We'll forget that happened, right,

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Speaker 2: you think I will.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna hold that over your head forever.

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Speaker 2: Our friends at Showtime usually encourage us to do more.

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Speaker 2: Usually they're like, that's true, you know so so, I mean,

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Speaker 2: even larger. So so far these are famous last words

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Speaker 3: All right, so far, all right?

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Speaker 1: Do you think UFC would be even larger if not

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Where are you guys with these new Karate Combat events.

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Speaker 1: It looks like guys are fighting in front of a

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Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch and Brian Collen's commentating, Wow, I like, are

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Speaker 1: I like Karate Combat, But the dude who runs it,

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Speaker 2: He did he pull a Joanna. Is that what you're saying,

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Speaker 2: Don't hate the concept. There's exciting highlights.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what channel is done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're you're so you're like like squatting

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Speaker 3: You're a man spreading.

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Speaker 2: I still think it's a shorter path back to the

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Speaker 3: Please, you can only say cockboxing if you're making fun of.

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Speaker 2: Me telling me it tells me that he's not far off.

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Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, Tell me if I'm wrong. Unless he

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he's looking forward to see what happens

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Speaker 2: Yeah, volume wise, that'd be sick. They both can take beatings. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Luke that we are entering with a be about we've

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Speaker 1: Don't know who's to end to Like, it's not over yet.

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Speaker 1: There's still a bunch on the horizon.

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Speaker 2: No, I think I think it's gonna start because the

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Speaker 3: It's in many ways.

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Speaker 3: But fucking a man in three years, I don't even

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Speaker 2: Who's more of an honorary South American? You or the

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Speaker 1: Them for sure, and their Spanish is better too, Like

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's pretty good. I'm wondering if there's a if

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Speaker 1: Of three, like how you're like, I wish I could

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Speaker 3: Concluding but not limited to, uh, do you realize how

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Speaker 2: But they'd also be really funny and smart. Okay, with

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Speaker 3: One cares about factory Town intensity.

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Speaker 1: All right, Can Luke and BC give your top five

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Speaker 1: greatest rock bands slash artists of the nineties?

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Speaker 2: All right, so this is who our personal top five

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Speaker 2: The best artist of the nineties for me, is Pearl

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Speaker 2: Jam number one?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Are we extending into hip hop?

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Speaker 3: He says? Or whoever wrote this wrote rock bands slashed artists?

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna stay in rock then, okay.

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Speaker 2: I got Pearl Jam, I got three eleven, I've got

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Speaker 2: some eleven Yeah, damn right, okay, Wow, I've got Sublime

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Speaker 2: I was never a big Pumpkins or STP. I love STP,

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Speaker 3: forget about them.

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Speaker 2: I left Nirvana O purposely are you gonna add them?

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Speaker 1: I'm not an Nirvana hater by any stretch that I

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Speaker 2: I hope that I never did tru or false. Cobain

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Speaker 3: I'm not one of these folks who's like, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, it's the same that you can say,

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Speaker 3: Yes, hip hop is.

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Speaker 1: the fuck. No one gives a shit. He's not cool anymore.

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Speaker 2: You know, do you consider yourself a combat sports taste maker?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't give a fuck.

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Speaker 1: People like my like I know my shit is good,

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Speaker 1: Like oh wow, I know, I know. I know that

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Speaker 3: I know it is. So it's like a dick.

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Speaker 2: Wow, there's you know you. So I wouldn't paint you

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Speaker 3: Look hold I think, I hold on? Who did I get?

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Speaker 2: Sound Garden, Rage, Rage, stp Radiohead. I'm not the biggest

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Speaker 2: radiohead guy, dishwala, no kidding. Please tell me all your thoughts,

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Speaker 1: big for me. I'm gonna go a little bit sideways

441
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 1: on this. And this is not to say that there

442
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 1: were not many bigger bands, but it's like your top

443
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 1: five greatest, right, So there, come on, you know, I'm

444
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 1: gonna go. Helmet Helmet was one of Helmet. Helmet Helmet

445
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,159
Speaker 1: had a bunch of albums in the nineties, but the

446
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 1: two biggest ones I think Betty came out in the nineties,

447
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 1: but the one that really got me as a huge

448
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 1: fan was Aftertaste Yes, and that album is one thousand

449
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 1: percent listenable, from the very first notes of the first

450
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 1: track to the very last ones off It's a masterpiece.

451
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 2: My version of Helmet is to put Whiskey Town in there.

452
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 2: They kind of started I don't know much about it,

453
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 2: kind of started alternative country. It's Ryan Adam's band before

454
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 2: he went solo.

455
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 3: I like him, all right, my wife likes him.

456
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 2: I love him. I love him. I mean he may

457
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 2: have done bad things to Is there a.

458
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,400
Speaker 1: Musical act that you did not know of until someone

459
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 1: took you to a concert and then you're like, you

460
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 1: know what, I can get down with these fools any genre.

461
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,119
Speaker 2: It's a great question. I got one ready, and I

462
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 2: didn't really know anything about them.

463
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you had heard of them, but you really

464
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 1: couldn't say you knew a whole lot about them, And

465
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't you saw the concert like how a Eureka

466
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 1: moment about him?

467
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 2: Not really? I got one, of course. I do drive

468
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 2: by truckers, dude, I love the shit out of the

469
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 2: drive by.

470
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 3: Try dude, drive by truckers fucking.

471
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,239
Speaker 2: Co Well, let me say, loved I can't support them

472
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 2: post Jason Isbell leaving because he was too big of

473
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 2: a role. But dude, I was on them.

474
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 3: How many alms have one hundred? I got a gazillion album?

475
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I was on. I started listening to them

476
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 2: around three. I've seen them in I think seven different states.

477
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 2: I've seen them all over the country and and they're incredible,

478
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 2: especially when Jason is But was there here's a great

479
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 2: trucker story, all right. At a guy at work in

480
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 2: two thousand and two that was trying to get me

481
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 2: into them, and he was like, dude, they're gonna play

482
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: Central Park. They're going to open in that free outdoor

483
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 2: summer series for Charlie Daniels band. I'm like, dude, I'll

484
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: see Charlie Daniels band. That's great. So then they hooked.

485
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 2: They were touring the double what's the double Southern Rock album?

486
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 2: Southern Rock Opera, the third one, the double one, And

487
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 2: we walk up before the concert starts and there's the

488
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: sound area on the side, like the guy you know,

489
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 2: running the engineer and all that and there's a bunch

490
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: of ragtag looking like people that like came out of

491
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 2: a dark lit bar at four am. Okay, And I

492
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 2: go to my friend, dude, who are those absolute dirt holes?

493
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, those are the drives. I was like, oh, okay,

494
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 2: we're about to see them. Look they blew me away

495
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: with the triple guitar skinnered esque attack that they had,

496
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 2: and I followed them ever since. Did you get into

497
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 2: Jason Isbel's solo career at all? All right, there is

498
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: one album.

499
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 3: You want to see, Joe Rogan's fourteen.

500
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 2: Southeastern that I need you to listen to, Luke. Now,

501
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: you wouldn't appreciate it.

502
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 3: You like, See, that's the thing, Luke, Joe Rogan's new

503
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 3: mansion is.

504
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 2: Fucking something happened to you along the way where your

505
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 2: taste in art of music changed changed to shit.

506
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 3: Changed to like it's quite good.

507
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 2: Actually, you can't defend your palette knowing that you that

508
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 2: you lean so heavily on the dark side.

509
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: Sure I can. You don't know about any of the

510
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: good stuff that I like. Uh well, I want to

511
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: say good stuff. You don't know about the stuff that's

512
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: not like that You've never bothered to ask. See, I

513
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 1: don't need to damn all the hip hop stuff. You

514
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: don't know anything about that either, So it's like a

515
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: fat one, dude.

516
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan's fucking new house is huge. Look at this ship.

517
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: You should go on a show one day.

518
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe maybe eventually. Lord, this motherfucker is living large.

519
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 2: Dude. He got like a four billion dollars.

520
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 3: They gave him like six countries and uh, the hair.

521
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: About Joe, and he's a real nice guy. I've met

522
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: him in person a couple of times. He's really sure.

523
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: And you don't it's stagg You don't see it coming, Looke,

524
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: you don't see it coming. He's got to be like

525
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: five foot one.

526
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 3: I always see it coming.

527
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't see every single time.

528
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 3: Look at this fucking guy's house.

529
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: That's great. What do you want me to do? Do

530
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: you want me to get hard over it?

531
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: Should?

532
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: We should get a phoner home invasion, just steal all

533
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 1: his ship?

534
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 3: Good Lord?

535
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: All right, let's get back.

536
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 3: Could you believe podcasting can get you this? Well?

537
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: This is just the beginning for us. And you know

538
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 2: that of the m K rocket ship I talk about, Yeah,

539
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: it's taken off.

540
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: I thought that was just you making it up.

541
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm very passionate about that.

542
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: All right, Well, here's another honorable mention for that question.

543
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: Top five rock bands of the nineties. Yeah, I'm gonna

544
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: go Deaftnes.

545
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: I know you love the death Tones.

546
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 3: I don't think are they The death Tones are just Deftones.

547
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: Standing the George Washington University Like, okay.

548
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 3: You want me, you want me to call Genesis the Genesis, Dude,

549
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 3: I don't.

550
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: Care what you call them, Okay, I just hope that

551
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: if you're gonna call them, you'll be in their.

552
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: Prime now on your face face? How about that?

553
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: And I got a lot of flat for saying I

554
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: like the Phil Collins era, which is similar to saying

555
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 2: I'm a big Samy Hagar van Halen fan, you know.

556
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: What I mean?

557
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: And of course our us rothheads would be all over that.

558
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: Luke right, most disappointed concert you've ever been to where

559
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: you just loved them.

560
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 3: On record and then you saw them and they were like, Man,

561
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: that hit suck.

562
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: I saw Kings of Leon in two thousand and four

563
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: Toad's placed in New Haven. They were so fricking high

564
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 2: that they came out. They didn't even do an encore.

565
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: They did thirty minutes and every song sounded like the

566
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 2: album and there was no jamming, and the guitarist was

567
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: like falling asleep standing there. And that was incredibly dist

568
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: I tell you my most disappointment, please, and I love

569
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: the Kings of Lamb. By the way, Evan dured in

570
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: there some band.

571
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: Oh here's the other part. Some bands just are better

572
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: live or on record. Very few can do both, so

573
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: you have to understand that there's always going to be

574
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 1: a trade off one direction or the other. But the

575
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: big one for me, that was just heartbreakingly bad.

576
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: Besides every rap concert you've ever been to keep going.

577
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: Uh No, I've been to some good rep concerts.

578
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a thing. I don't think it's

579
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: a thing to be. There's no such thing because you

580
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: don't know what you're doing. I happen to have a

581
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: little bit more understanding. I'll say this. It was a

582
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: rap concert, but you hear me out. It was when

583
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 2: Rage Against the Machine was playing with the Wu Tang

584
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: That tour created more rage, riots and people pissing on

585
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: each other.

586
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 3: Dude, Wu Tang opened for Rage. This was in Atlanta

587
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: and Wu Tang had I'm not exaggerating seventy five people

588
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: on stage, maybe on the conservative side.

589
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: They were yelling over each other. You couldn't even tell

590
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: who the fuck was playing it. DJ would start a

591
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: track for a minute and then flip to another one and.

592
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 3: Be like, hold up, hold on, hold on, hold hold

593
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: hold Helena.

594
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: On piece up, down, down, everything, and they would just

595
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: have going these fucking soliloquies. They maybe played the three songs,

596
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: and from beginning to end it fucking blew.

597
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: It was terrible, terrible.

598
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I went to a Guns n' Roses show No.

599
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: Two in which Axel never got on the plane from

600
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: LA to Philly, so the fans rioted and burned the

601
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: inside there.

602
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: It was in fucking Philly.

603
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: You can rely on them, bro u.

604
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: I saw.

605
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: I've seen Guns and Roses twice once with Axel and Buckethead.

606
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: Oh dude, bucketheads.

607
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: Dude, Buckethead can fucking shop.

608
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: And he's so technical and classical, you're like.

609
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: Like, we're gonna call this guy fucking bucket heead you

610
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: don't think, and then you watch him playing you're like, no.

611
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 2: I watched on PBS one time an hour long Buckehead special,

612
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: which was all instrumental songs, and it was insanely good.

613
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: You know, he got like a violin bow out like

614
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: Jimmy Page style. I mean it was.

615
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: And then I saw them do the summer tour back

616
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: when they reunited, they played.

617
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 2: How bad was Axel's voice of that one?

618
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: So what they figured out they had a system in place.

619
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: So it was the same system that actually used when

620
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: he was playing with Buckethead, which is he would do

621
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: three or so songs, maybe four, and then he would

622
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: start a fifth. Then he would not finish it, get

623
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: off stage, and Buckethead would just begin to shred okay

624
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: and just go to work. See I don't so. And

625
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: in the summer tour it'd be the same thing. But

626
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: here's they would do. They would be like the fourth

627
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: song would be like November rain, so Axel would shred

628
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: for like you know, however doesn't shred but yeah, okay,

629
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: but he would you know, this is a long song,

630
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: and he would go on his own thing.

631
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: Axel doesn't play guitar, Sorry.

632
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: Not Axl, I'm sorry, Slash. What am I saying?

633
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: He would play the whole thing blah blah blah, and

634
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: then Axel comes back out with a change of wardrobe

635
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: and he's rest of his throat and then he.

636
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: Just goes or is just playing lips in.

637
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but okay either way, all right, So I.

638
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: Don't like seeing people when they're too washed. I saw

639
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm a massive Bob Dylan fan, and I saw him

640
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: in O two. I saw one really good concert, one

641
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: really bad, but I knew that that was the end.

642
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 2: He was sixty years old. Year it was never gonna

643
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: be better. I had to stop. I got so into

644
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: the Rolling Stones around five luke, and they did this

645
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: stadium tours. But you know, they're charged like one hundred

646
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: and twenty five bucks and you gotta sit eighty yards away.

647
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: And I found out that they were having guitar and

648
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 2: bass players behind the curtain, playing to like fill in

649
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: the gaps where the old ships couldn't. I don't need

650
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 2: to see that, you know what I'm saying. I want

651
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 2: to see it. I want to be intimate. I want

652
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: to be in a club. You ever go to a

653
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: club and see your favorite band in the stage is

654
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: like two feet high and you're standing right there staring

655
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: at his guitar. I've done that first.

656
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: This is why I tell folks, it's like, oh, The

657
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: fights are better with an audience.

658
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 2: Motherfucker on what Okay, they are better with an audience

659
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 2: in every in every category.

660
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: The only people who think that are the people who

661
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: get their highs as media from constantly going to events.

662
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: But if you're like me and my you're such an asshole,

663
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: You're like, you're the asshole. You're the one who says,

664
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: you two idiots up there fighting. My enjoyment of this

665
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: is contingent upon everyone else. And I'm the one who

666
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: says my enjoyment of the fight, you're you're basically.

667
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: You're basically framing at. People that think a crowd improve

668
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: a fight are people that can't appreciate what their watching,

669
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: so they need the soundtrack and energy of a crowd.

670
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: Yes, that is exactly what it is.

671
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: There are certain fights where a crowd will elevate the

672
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: general atmosphere, especially on the higher, higher, higher end, and

673
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: that is especially true in boxing relative to M M A.

674
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: But the overwhelming majority do not need them, and in

675
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Speaker 1: fact them.

676
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: That is the worst attempt at a hipster. I'm smart,

677
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: even for you, who who is centered the market on

678
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: the I'm smarter than you think, like you know, like,

679
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: let me pull a ward. Let me pull that word

680
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: out like that sort out.

681
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: You know, those are just those are natural words as

682
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: part of my daily.

683
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: Use because of the College of William and Mary.

684
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: No, because I make a lifelong effort at learning. You

685
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: should try it sometime. Here's the point I'm trying to make, right,

686
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: understand something. I have made the point for years that

687
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: if the UFC is too expensive and the show, the

688
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: tickets are not cheap like they're they're pricey, Okay, Like

689
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: a decent ticket of UFC is going to be three

690
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: hundred to pop in certain cases. That's probably true, all right,

691
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of money. So what I always

692
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: tell folks, and this is not possible now in large

693
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: part because of the pandem but let's say pre pandemic,

694
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: what I always told folks was, listen, you go support

695
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: local MMA because one it's good for the MMA economy,

696
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: and two you don't have to spend a lot of money.

697
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: You can. Somebody might die, somebody straight up.

698
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: You might see that up five thousand, But here's my point.

699
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: You can go and spend fifty hundred bucks and you

700
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: can get basically nearly cage side seats. Yes, and if

701
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: you've never done that and you begin to see the

702
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: fight up close, and you can hear it for your

703
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: own you can feel the weight of the fight in

704
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: front of you. It takes on a much better and

705
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: I think it's so much more fulfilling experience. Okay, local

706
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: fights for that, I would love an audience to be there.

707
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: In that case, I would say.

708
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: That the lack of an audience would really make a

709
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: difference because those are your training partners and your friends

710
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: and your family and only them.

711
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 3: So let me say this.

712
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: What you get with a situation like parier versus hooker

713
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: is you lose the audience for the upgrade of the

714
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: larger weight of the fight. You cannot make the case

715
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: to me in terms of.

716
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: You could larger weight mean larger waight of the fight?

717
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: What the hell did you?

718
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: And you watch a fight? If you watch it on mute,

719
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: you lose something? Yay, So watching a fight is it

720
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: fulfills most of your senses. Your sight, you're hearing if

721
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: you're there, the sort of the smell of it, sometimes

722
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: the crowd, the blood being splattered. I mean, all these

723
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: things have mattered if you're close enough. I don't need

724
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: an audience to support this. This is this is that

725
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: fight is so pure as an experience on its own.

726
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that the yelling would necessarily detract from it,

727
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: but it certainly in that particular case, does not improve it.

728
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: The opposite, I think what that one needed.

729
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: I think you're one hundred percent wrong. I appreciate what

730
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: you're saying that it brings out the sounds of the

731
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: fight more. But it's this debate. To Luke, I'm not

732
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: a big steak guy. I can appreciate a really good steak.

733
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: I buy steak when somebody else is paying at times

734
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: for a big restaurants. You had a steak when we

735
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: went out last night. It was good, okay, but I

736
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: don't crave it. And meat burgers. You know you like

737
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: a gourmet burger. To me, I can get all nerdy

738
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: with you and gourmet that shit, okay, grasp all that shit.

739
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: It's not a replacement for us.

740
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's it's it's amazing. I also am

741
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: the biggest fan of ketchup. Ever I don't, and so

742
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: my wife will get home me she'd be like, you know,

743
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: you love beef, you love to cook it on the grill.

744
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: You love a really well made burger with this and

745
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: that in it. Why are you putting ketchup on it?

746
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna no, ketchup is the enhancer. Ketchup takes takes

747
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: it to another level. I'm not saying you should be

748
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: an absolute weirdo and eat an overdone steak with ketchup

749
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: like that. Is that that's treason, right, that's treas Okay,

750
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: like you can be. You could probably be killed in

751
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 2: medieval times in England probably for that. But putting ketchup

752
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: on a gourmet burger? Are you kidding me that this

753
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: is like.

754
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: Ketchup doesn't make meat taste more like meat. When you

755
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: say enhancing, you mean as a more complimentary hole.

756
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying that if you're a purist who says I

757
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: don't need ketchup on my burger because I just want

758
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: to taste the burger, I don't appreciate that. But I

759
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: believe that ketchup like this is. It's a great.

760
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: Example that you have staurg what goes on it?

761
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: Bun patty?

762
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: Then what?

763
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: Well? You gotta have blue cheese If you're gonna have

764
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: a great burger, okay, keep going, Uh, you know you're

765
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: gonna have to have onions of some kind of crispy kind,

766
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: carameliz caramelized? Are the balls right?

767
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: You're speaking my language?

768
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I you know I don't love the lettuce

769
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: ketchup on that. I need a juicy tomato on there.

770
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: I need it like a beef steak tomato.

771
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one, yeah, one. That could be.

772
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: You've said nothing wrong to this point. I understand where

773
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: we disagree.

774
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: I eat it naked. I just kidding.

775
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: So so here's the thing. I'm with you on burgers,

776
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: being like, who the fuck says I'm above eating burgers?

777
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: Go fuck yourself. Burgers will forever be a great and

778
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: a true joy.

779
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: But it's better than steak. Here's because it has it's

780
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: full dressing.

781
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: No it does, bro, Dude, who is making the fucking

782
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: steaks that you're eating?

783
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: He doesn't have blue cheese on it.

784
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: They can, by the way, you can. There's that you cannot.

785
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: The the two are not, you know, mutually exclusive.

786
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: Dude. I've had great I love steak. I have had

787
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: great No.

788
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: No, no, we say you've had great steak. What the

789
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: fuck does that mean?

790
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: But there's a difference.

791
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: You didn't even know what she may sure he was

792
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: you think I trust your steak great steak is great.

793
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: I've had great steak except from Argentina, who arguably have

794
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: the best steaks in the.

795
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: Steak is like barbecue ribs, though at the elite level

796
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: it's it's an orgasmic experience. Anything short of that is

797
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: a waste of your time. Cheeseburger is like pizza is

798
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 2: like sloppy sex.

799
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: A cheeseburger is uh listen, A cheeseburger is like a seven.

800
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: But it's a solid seven.

801
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 2: I've been living in the tens. I live in a

802
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: snooty area where the cheeseburgers are going.

803
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: You can give gourmet fucking burgers, and no other town

804
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: in America. Every town in America has gourmet burgers.

805
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 2: Okay, dude, this is the thing.

806
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: Come to DC.

807
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: If you get your brother involved. I mean, he blows

808
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:54,479
Speaker 2: me off.

809
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: My brother makes out of control burger.

810
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 2: So does he like edibles? He does?

811
00:34:58,960 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: Actually? Yes?

812
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: Can we make this work? Because I mean, I don't

813
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: want to make out with him at the end, but

814
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: I wanted to what would hit? What would Your brother

815
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: and I have a common ground on music? Maybe I

816
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: bet she's gonna be a little bit music, a little bit.

817
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: He probably likes nerdy ship though he like Ari, he

818
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 2: probably loves rim and the police.

819
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: Police know r e M.

820
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I knew it. Police know fucking knew it. What

821
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: year did he graduate high school? Though?

822
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: Ninety six?

823
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: Oh that's my age?

824
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 3: All right, all right, yeah, ninety six?

825
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: Is your real name, Luke Thomas? Is that a real

826
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: what's your middle name? Something weird, right, like Willemina or

827
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: something like will Amina b. Canon or something named after

828
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: the only gay president.

829
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: No, it's none of those things.

830
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it's quite normal, little factory.

831
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: Yes, who was.

832
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: The only uh, who was the only president who was

833
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: so fat he got stuck in the bathtub?

834
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 3: Who are the fact guys? Taft? Alright, yeah, all right,

835
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 3: let's move along here. Oh, by the way, I'll say,

836
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: here's what we're gonna do. So a buddy of my

837
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: his name is, his name is Walter, but he's actually Argentinian,

838
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 3: like full on Argentinian, to the point where his English

839
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: is a pretty limits.

840
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: Brother's name is Walter? Is that right? Yeah, you'd be surprised.

841
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: You go to Latin America. There's some Jefferson's down there,

842
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: but it's spelled with a y. But how they pronounced

843
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: the why the English y like a j. So they

844
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: don't say yogurt. They say jogurt for example. Not in

845
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: all places. It just depends on the dialect. But I've

846
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: seen a bunch of dudes down there named you look

847
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: at it, it says Jefferson, but it's Jefferson. So my wife

848
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: doesn't call Joel Romero Joel Romero. She calls them Joel.

849
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: That's how she pronounces Joel Homero.

850
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 3: No, she calls it Romero.

851
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 2: Then she's wrong because in Brazil it's Josse.

852
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: The correct pronunciation is always how a native would say it,

853
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: and there are plenty of people across space speaking Latin

854
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: America would say Joel Romero. Anyway, here's the point. When

855
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: you come to the city. We're gonna get steaks, We're

856
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: gonna cook them, and Walter is gonna give us his

857
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Walter is like proudly Argentinian.

858
00:36:59,360 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: Good enough.

859
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: I remember one time I asked it. I was like,

860
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: can I have the recipes here? Jimmy Tury, He was

861
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: like no, and I go why he goes Arentino like

862
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: to the death, I'm Argentinian, no one else can have it.

863
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. But he'll he'll he'll make you a

864
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: bunch and then give it to you.

865
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: I got something to show you. Keep talking. I got

866
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 2: an Argentinian thing to show you. One of the weirdest

867
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: moments in boxing.

868
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 3: Is Instagram fit model with a big as.

869
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: No hang with me here. Do you remember a little

870
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 2: bit of business on Showtime pay per view called Mayweather

871
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: My Donna? Want to do you remember before the first

872
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: one that my Donna had a Yeah, my Donna had

873
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: a traditional Argentinian national anthem player and so the people

874
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: can see it first see at was he playing the flute?

875
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: I think he's going down on some guy there, and

876
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: you know he did the Argentinian nation and on a

877
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: you're not into that.

878
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 3: You're racist?

879
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: Is that racist? People?

880
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 3: Let's make fun of the that's big fun of the other.

881
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty Any race could go down on.

882
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: And Argentinians are mostly white, for example, although it's apparently

883
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: hilarious because if you find all the teams that you

884
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: know have countries on the coast, they'll have black players

885
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: like inevitably, but the Argentinian team, you ever looked at them,

886
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: like Messi for example. You understand about Sacer but you

887
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: know who Leo Messi is right, Yeah, is white as snow.

888
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: He's really short too.

889
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have.

890
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: Any black players in the Argentinian teams or the Orguayan team.

891
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: They hate black people because, No, Brazila is a lot

892
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: of blacks.

893
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 3: Brazil is majority black.

894
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: What about Columbia pretty black?

895
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: It's about like America, it's about like ten plus percent.

896
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: But but here's the key, it's super concentrated. So for example,

897
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: if you go to where my wife is from and Bogota,

898
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: you'll see like the occasional black person. It's not like

899
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: a rare thing, but it's not common.

900
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: Edison Miranda.

901
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: Uh, you gotta go to the coast, Okay, and we

902
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: go to the coast, it's like ninety percent black.

903
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: So the coast of Colombia is like Atlanta, and our.

904
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: Country significantly more so. It's Atlanta on black college spring

905
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: break weekend.

906
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: East Saint Louis something.

907
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 3: Like that, something like that. Yeah, it's super sm DC.

908
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: That's that's a fairly DC.

909
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: When I grew up, was called Chocolate City, and now

910
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: it's like it's actually majority not black anymore.

911
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 2: Oh, that's gentrified. The Brooklyn bullshit.

912
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: The black population still represents the single most in the plurality, but.

913
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 3: They don't have the majority anymore.

914
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 2: Okay, which Drive by Trucker albums did you own? I

915
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: forgot to close that cover I've owned? Or were you

916
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: more into the live game?

917
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: More into the live game? But it was God? You know,

918
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 3: I'll play some of the songs here.

919
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: What's your what's your favorite one or two tracks?

920
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: What?

921
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: What's like? I love Zip City, you know, because here's

922
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: the deal I I have. I know a lot of

923
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: DBT fans, and there's people I know that are patterson

924
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: Hood fans. He's their lead singer. I'm much more of

925
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: a of a Mike Cooley fan. He's the skinny lead

926
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: guitar player. And then look, Jason, his bull is the

927
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 2: best thing they ever happened to them.

928
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 3: All Right, I'll tell you which one I got. These

929
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: are the ones that like really move me when the

930
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: pin hits the shell might be my number one? Oh that?

931
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: Okay? So you're so you're more of a patterson Hood guy.

932
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: It's like you can lie to your mother, you can

933
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: lie to your race, but you can't lie to nobody.

934
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: When the cold with the cold steel in your face.

935
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 2: Women in Whiskey, you know that song that is so good.

936
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 3: You know, So.

937
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: If I make it through this year, gotta put this

938
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: bottle down. Yeah, right, Like, if I make it, I've

939
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: been through the I've been in my twenties. Do you

940
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Tell me? Okay, what the bottom

941
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: of a bottle has for you? Why?

942
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: Gravity is honest? One of my favor favorite ones.

943
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: Gravity's Gone is so good? And that was the first

944
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: Uh that was the last album with Isabel that song.

945
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the chick who played bass.

946
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: Shanda, who was Jason Isbell's wife. Now he upgraded. He's

947
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: married to that that country check. What's her name? You

948
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?

949
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: Uh?

950
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: Isbel married to She's She's hot. I can't believe you

951
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: don't know Isbel's Southeastern album. It'll in your life if

952
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: you let it.

953
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: But I haven't heard it.

954
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 2: Dead Drunken Naked, I haven't heard that one. Amanda Shires

955
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: is her name?

956
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: Is she like famous or Yeah?

957
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: She's kind of like a country bluegrass singer. Dead Drunken

958
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: Name Naked is a good song too, but that's more

959
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: the early stuff. Anyway, Let's get back to the show, Louke. Okay,

960
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 2: people don't really want to see you searching for ship.

961
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: I know, I don't give it's the it's the Red

962
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: Shoe diars. What are we doing here? Pen?

963
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: HiT's the show where the Devil Don't Stay? Might be

964
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: their best song. That's so heavy, that's heavy as a

965
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: ball bags this ship. It's great. You can loot too,

966
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 2: you kill lat to you race, she can't let nobody.

967
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: All right, that's a little that's a little aggressive. Look

968
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: when you were your drunkest? What was your full time job?

969
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 3: You were?

970
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: Were you? Was this a sad drunk period in your life?

971
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: For happy drunk period?

972
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: No? Sad?

973
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 2: Okay? So were you? Were you functioning barely?

974
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 3: Barely? I'll turn it down, Uh sadly. I don't want to.

975
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk more about it because it's

976
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: just I'm sick of talking about it.

977
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: But talk about it. You're drunkness a lot.

978
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: No with this part of the when my mom passed,

979
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I nearly drink myself to death. Bro, And you know

980
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't really want to read this ship. Uh yeah, what,

981
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: I'll give you one question about go ahead, What do

982
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: you mean you're gonna ask something? I'm not gonna ask something.

983
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 3: No, all right, I appreciate that.

984
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I mean, you're a you're a you're

985
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: an a hole, but you're a hole.

986
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: Do you think that it's you and like half the

987
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: audience on YouTube comment section versus me, and you don't

988
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: realize it's me and you versus the world. You're saying,

989
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: can you can you not text during the podcast?

990
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: Are you saying we're not unified enough as a front?

991
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying you have weird allegiances that you don't need

992
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: to have. You parsing the YouTube comment section for weird

993
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: measures of support or even the weird parts were like

994
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: they're insulting you, and you're like, hey, you know what

995
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: someone said in the YouTube comments section about me?

996
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 3: And I'm like no.

997
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: The reason why I do that is because from day one, Luke,

998
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: from my first episode on the MMAB, I talked to

999
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: you like I don't fucking read any comments and all

1000
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 2: those people can die like that was like them on

1001
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: occasion that was your like, oh, I'm gonna overbear and

1002
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: go overboard on this. I'm like, really, you don't read

1003
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: any comments like I read. I'm not gonna say they're

1004
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: in vanity search myself twelve hours a day, but if

1005
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: you're you.

1006
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: Know who does that is Jalen what's his face Rose?

1007
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: Jalen Rose.

1008
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, try it to have a tweet about him and

1009
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: then see what happens.

1010
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: You get a responsible I thought you told me. Mike

1011
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: Goldberg's like that too.

1012
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: Uh, he might be he rissed Buffer. I don't know

1013
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: Force Griffin. He blocked me.

1014
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: I have three voicemails from Forrest Griffin from China, China. Yeah.

1015
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: I had an interview set up with that, so well,

1016
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: who do you have saved in your saved voicemails? Like?

1017
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 2: I got probably fifteen for my wife, three from my kids.

1018
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 2: I think I got one from my grandma or something.

1019
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: I got Uh, I got Fort Griffin yo.

1020
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: Oh.

1021
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how to work this hold on.

1022
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 3: Hey, Brian Campbell, because you're a sports Forts Griffon. Here

1023
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: I the other number, but I could not get through

1024
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: on that is being a professional.

1025
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, did we should want to crankle?

1026
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: No? I don't want to do that. I'm forty one

1027
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 3: years old.

1028
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: Place. I love Fort Griffin. By the way, even in

1029
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: that Toyot tire commercial, the weird one with Domres.

1030
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: The one thing I don't like about the commercial is like,

1031
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: why are you drinking water out of a coffee mug psychopath.

1032
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: Well he is a little bit of psychopathic. Well do

1033
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: you know what Ford S Griffin accomplished something that I do?

1034
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: Luke like you shoul always say you lane pretty hard

1035
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: into that factory town bit. Didn't you see it.

1036
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: As an excuse for your imperfections?

1037
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: Is it an excuse that where is a justification? No,

1038
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: it's an excuse what you do, it's an excuse. Well,

1039
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: what I'll say about this is why did we love

1040
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 2: Forest Griffin? Because he wore his heart so and intention

1041
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 2: on his sleeve and said, look, I'm trying my best

1042
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: to be to be an elite fighter here. I'm an

1043
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: ultimate fighter X factory worker, right, That's what I am.

1044
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: And he's an ex cop That's.

1045
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: What I am. In this space, I'm saying I'm not

1046
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: I don't belong here, and I don't want to belong here,

1047
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: but I'm going to show you that I can linger, okay,

1048
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 2: and I can hang, and I can climb and I

1049
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: can get to the top. Do you have to do

1050
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 2: you have to where you're like all frat boys super

1051
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: elast Magna come off and you know from William and Mary. Right, No, bro,

1052
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: I'm back dooring this ship. I'm John Starks. Give me

1053
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: another ten day contract. You know what I'll do, raise

1054
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: your ratings. Okay, I'll put the sizzle on your stake.

1055
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: Luke without me, do you know what? You are?

1056
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 3: Very popular?

1057
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: Dead dead animal?

1058
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: Okay, dude, I've got four times the audience you do,

1059
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 3: and you seem to think that like without you, i'd

1060
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: be you know, just here's the difference.

1061
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: You have to know your role in this game. Tell

1062
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. There are roles that we play.

1063
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: You are a You're a shock, You're a foundation. You're

1064
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: a guy that draws an audience, has a take, is

1065
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: more than happy doing Masterbtorby stuff in front of the

1066
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: camera for hours on end. I'm a I'm a you know,

1067
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: steak and sizzled. I'm a I'm a ketchup guy. Right,

1068
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm a You put me on something established and you

1069
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 2: can add.

1070
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: Okay, but the catcher we can't eat alone, and the

1071
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: meat by itself without seasoning, you can't eat.

1072
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm Mariano marriage.

1073
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: No, you're not.

1074
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: You're not.

1075
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: You're not You're not Mario. You're just the ball.

1076
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: No, you're nothing, You're you're nothing, You're the you know

1077
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: you're the big white guy who could pitch seventh great,

1078
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna come in and shut the door.

1079
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: Who was like one of the what not Andy Vans?

1080
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: Like what am I? I'm pettit? Am I petted?

1081
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 2: You try the hges You're Andy Pettit Right, I'm petted?

1082
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: And can you can be?

1083
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: You can be the greatest closer in the history of

1084
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: the game. Motherfucker. You overstate your importance.

1085
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 3: In this equation. What I bring here I do? I

1086
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: do dick jokes and fucking odd rapist smiles. All right?

1087
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: Do cucumbers taste better pickled, which, of course, if cucumbers

1088
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: are pickled, cucumbers in vinegar.

1089
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: I hate picks and I hate cucumbers. My parents we

1090
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: went through a healthy yeah, because we didn't eat sad.

1091
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: I love a kid I got. I got screwed up. Okay,

1092
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: most people like gradually get into salads and the healthy,

1093
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: and you know, by the time you're an adult, you're like,

1094
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: I want to eat this stuff because it helps me.

1095
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: I got. I had no greens or salads or anything

1096
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: until like third grade. And then my parents are like,

1097
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: we're gonna eat clean from the earth, right, you know,

1098
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 2: and you're good and so for two years we weren't

1099
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: allowed to eat anything but plates full of cucumbers, and

1100
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: I was just gagging. I see, and so it's it

1101
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: scarred me. My relationship with vegetables is very much like

1102
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 2: my relationship with man On Man love dude. You could

1103
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: eat all the cucumbers you want. It's just not for me.

1104
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: Bro all right to say.

1105
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 3: You hate it. You said you hate cucumbers.

1106
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: I don't hate man on man.

1107
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 3: I don't.

1108
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: It's not until I try it.

1109
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily for I don't hate it.

1110
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: I have to see the differences. I have tried cucumbers

1111
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: and they're in discussion. My wife loves pickles. I'm like,

1112
00:47:59,000 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: they're fucking you.

1113
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: Well, what I would say, I'm gonna I'm gonna challenge

1114
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: you a little bit on your burger. I'm gonna say

1115
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: this a little bit because everything you mentioned was good,

1116
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: but most burgers, what do they need? You need the

1117
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: animal protein. You need the carbohydrate, which would be your

1118
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: You could put stuff in the middle, like fried onions,

1119
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: but it would be your bun. You need the fat,

1120
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: the creaminess which would come from like you know, uh

1121
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: mustard or Dejana's or if some people it's mayo. It's

1122
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: not for me, but okay, And you need also a

1123
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: little bit of acid. And that's where the pickles come

1124
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: into play. A little bit of that, a little bit

1125
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: of that really makes it go the wrong way.

1126
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. People were like, Well.

1127
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: If anybody who's a chef is watching, they're gonna go.

1128
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,959
Speaker 1: The guy on the left is right the.

1129
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: Sorry your brother once owned a restaurant. I get it.

1130
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: A simpleton on the right, who may speak for more people,

1131
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: still doesn't speak for the correct people in this particular case.

1132
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 2: People. Okay, let's say you love chocolate. I'm like, all right,

1133
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna dip my penis and chocolate. It's still dick

1134
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: at the end of the day.

1135
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 3: Right, dumbest comparison I've ever heard.

1136
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 2: The cucumber's evolution.

1137
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: In the idea of paying acid is to add all

1138
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: the different things your tongue could reasonably get a hold of,

1139
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: and it completes the full palate of flavors, and to

1140
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: a degree, they balance each other out, the father of

1141
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: creaminess with the acid, they cancel each other. One of

1142
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: the best things you can eat is like rice with

1143
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: some kind of Why do you think the Japanese do it.

1144
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: They have rice and they have soy sauce. The carbohydrate

1145
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: cuts the acid and vice versa between the two, or

1146
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: the salt.

1147
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 2: In that particular case, it's vegetables on you. At the

1148
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: end of the day. You take my favorite thing, but

1149
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: you stick the thing I hate the worst in it. No,

1150
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: so oh, pickled juice is great. Yeah, well there's a

1151
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: freaking cucumber underneath that. All right, I don't do that.

1152
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: We went to a nice restaurant yesterday and this dude,

1153
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: of all the things in the menu, he's.

1154
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: Like, yo, let me get the lamest shit you got

1155
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 3: on that menu.

1156
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: I want to get you.

1157
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: I want to get shit you can get at any

1158
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: fucking restaurant. Bake that chicken, put some fucking salt and

1159
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 3: pepper on it, and bring me that shit. Meanwhile, we're

1160
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: having you know, Italian yochi and.

1161
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: Fucking what I was going to order, you ended up

1162
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 2: ordering as an appetizer for the table which was going

1163
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 2: to order that pnocchi and uh in, so order more

1164
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: of it and have it for yourself instead. I housed

1165
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: the app all right. I took them downtown. Bro. I

1166
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: I was like OJ with Ron Goldman on those apps

1167
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: right throat as bad as second, as bad as that

1168
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: joke is, and shout out of the Goldmans, Luke, shout out,

1169
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: you were false.

1170
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: He was.

1171
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: I'm not saying O J should have went to that level.

1172
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: But this guy was sleeping with his wife, right or

1173
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: were they? They were they officially divorced at that point?

1174
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 2: Does it matter?

1175
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.

1176
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: Uh okay, honest opinion of Dyla Shaw's return. Do you

1177
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: think he can recapture the bantamweight title and his pound

1178
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: for pound spot?

1179
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: It's unlikely that he recaptures both.

1180
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 3: The problem is bantamweight moved on without him.

1181
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.

1182
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 3: So even if he is just as good, the talent

1183
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 3: got way harder.

1184
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: I don't see how he can be just as good,

1185
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: even though I believe that most people are using.

1186
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 3: He might be better than you think he is.

1187
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: Dude, I was. I was much Do you realize that

1188
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: I was the protector of all things Dila Shaw Killishaw.

1189
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: I was the guy who came on remember the mm

1190
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 2: A B. I came on there and I boldly said

1191
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna knock Cody out to get that title back.

1192
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: And you and Danny Segura and Chalk in the Hat

1193
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: were like, no, bro, I don't. I don't really know

1194
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: about that. We don't make predictions on this show. We're

1195
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: very sensitive about that.

1196
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 3: The audience.

1197
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: Do you realize what happened next? TJ won that ship back?

1198
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 2: All right?

1199
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 3: Ah, there was a question about how he did it.

1200
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: I was there? Were you in New York? That I

1201
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: two one seven? Great pay per view? Great fricking pay

1202
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: per view?

1203
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 3: Which one was this?

1204
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 2: That was the GSP bisbag Rose and uh.

1205
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: I was there. I was there.

1206
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you didn't. You probably didn't celebrate Roses

1207
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: went over over young j Check because she hadn't broken

1208
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 2: your heart yet.

1209
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm not that I always said this, just because you

1210
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: don't like certain fighters, you really can't let that affect

1211
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: the way in which you give pre or post fighter

1212
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: analysis about them. So, for example, like I didn't know

1213
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: what was gonna happen in the Wayysong fight because it

1214
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: was hard to tell. I mean going in, it was

1215
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: just you just didn't know. I think I leaned slightly

1216
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: Towardsong just because she was younger and fresher, but she

1217
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: was she was unchallenged in the way that you wanted

1218
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: a challenge her. But dude, after the fight A I

1219
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: thought you want to one, I still think yo wanta one?

1220
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 3: Uh?

1221
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 2: Two?

1222
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: Dude, with she got fucking disfigured on there. You can't

1223
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 1: be a normal human and look at what she did

1224
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: and not honor a the performance, whether.

1225
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 3: You get she lost.

1226
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: And then two what she sacrificed, Like, holy fuck, do

1227
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: you do you remember like a week later when she

1228
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: took a picture and looked like.

1229
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: She was fucking black. Yeah, because the the swelling had

1230
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 3: gone down, but the bruising was still everywhere, Like, holy.

1231
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: Shit, man, and she only got mad like two hundred

1232
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: grand for that shit. It's a fucking crime. So like that,

1233
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: I personally don't have an enormous amount of you know,

1234
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: affection for her, Okay, I don't, but I have an

1235
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: enormous out of respect for her as a fighter, and

1236
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: I am I think reasonably able to differentiate that.

1237
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: And as a fashion model. I will say this, I

1238
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: kind of fancy myself as the IUANA of the combat

1239
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: sports media space.

1240
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: Are you just saying words? I think you're just saying words.

1241
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 2: No, I meant that. I didn't mean that.

1242
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

1243
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: Do you have any fun stories of attending or watching

1244
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: combat sports events while inebriated. I mean virtually all of

1245
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: them have been in that state, so I don't have

1246
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: anyone in particular.

1247
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first fight card I ever went as a fan,

1248
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: and I think it's the only one. It's actually the

1249
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: only fight card I've ever been to as a fan

1250
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 2: not working. Okay, it was a Showbox two thousand and

1251
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: five Friday night, Mohegan Sun Arena. It was uh, did

1252
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: you and the Rapper Apathy Go? David Estrada against Chris

1253
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: Smith and the main event not that important Andrea Berto

1254
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: on the undercard. Wow. But in between fights, so when

1255
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: they chance, when they transformation Luke from the undercard to

1256
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: the Showtime main card, all these dudes come in and

1257
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: they start they start putting up the banner and changing,

1258
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the Showtime banners out. And there's a

1259
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: dude on the in the center of the ring on

1260
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: a ladder and he had he was like a like

1261
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: a roadie, right, and he had this ridiculous long ponytailing

1262
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: this fat dude and he got up to the top

1263
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: of the ladder and there's probably like a thousand people

1264
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: in the arena, and I'm like, yeah, fat dude with

1265
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: the ridiculous mohawka or you know whatever, and I just

1266
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: ripped his hair so bad. But I underestimated how little

1267
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: the noise was in the arena, and it was like

1268
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: he stopped, he turned around and he was just like

1269
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: fuck you and then gave me a look like I'll

1270
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: be seeing you later. And at that point I was

1271
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: unable to hide because there was just nobody in the

1272
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 2: arena and there's also a guy sitting behind me in

1273
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 2: a suit but no front teeth, as if you'd been

1274
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: like knocked out, and he was. And when there was

1275
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: Andre Burdo and his pro debut, knock somebody down, he goes.

1276
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: He went down like the Twin Towers, and everybody in

1277
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: the crowd was like.

1278
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, the old joke, Yeah, that's not a good one.

1279
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: The only one I have would not be a combats

1280
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: Worts event. But I got I didn't get drunk, but

1281
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: I was just an asshole in high school and me

1282
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: and my friends went out to a Braves game and

1283
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: I remember Ron Gant was playing was it left field?

1284
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 3: And I'll never.

1285
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: Forget there was this woman like three rows down who

1286
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: had she had large breasts.

1287
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: Where I come from we'd say she had a nice rack. Yeah,

1288
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: she had big ass titties, had a nice rack.

1289
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: That we can take that to the debutante ball with

1290
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: you anyway. So we proceeded to make, you know, unbearable

1291
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: comments that went on for about seven or eight innings

1292
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: until the point where the husband got up and looked

1293
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 1: at all of us and was like, it's just straight

1294
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: up threatened us. I mean, if you don't shut the

1295
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: fuck up, I'm gonna fight all of you right here.

1296
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: You're all pieces of ship. And he was completely in

1297
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: the right, Like I looked back on it, like quite ashamedly.

1298
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: The only thing about this that was funny was what

1299
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: happened next, which was we were like, okay, all right, man,

1300
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, we're just here having fun, but you want

1301
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: to fist. If I were teenagers, do your thing. Okay,

1302
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: we're you know, we're all right, you win. Uh oh,

1303
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: he would have totally kicked ass. And he was like

1304
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: even even just because he was more heated if nothing else,

1305
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: all right, he was superheated. I was eating some you know,

1306
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: this was a Fulton County stadium before.

1307
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: Even Turner had been around, and around then Turner Stadium

1308
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: was the one that replaced with with that with Fulton County.

1309
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: We tried to make himself the manager for one day

1310
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 2: finish the story anyway.

1311
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: And then somebody who in my crew like finished their

1312
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: hot dog or something and then took the wrapper and

1313
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: then just threw.

1314
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 3: It in the air, and it hit me, and I go,

1315
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 3: oh ship, because he remember he had said it, one

1316
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: of you curses one more time. You know it's gonna

1317
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 3: be on blah blah blah.

1318
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: Because it wasn't just that we were making other totally

1319
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: inappropriate references anyway, So I say, oh shit, okay, but

1320
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't even I wasn't like, I didn't

1321
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: yell it, and I wasn't definitely wasn't directing it at him.

1322
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: He hears it and stands up and turns around and

1323
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: thinks it's my friend I left.

1324
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 3: Who said it? He goes, He goes, he was like,

1325
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 3: I mean, you could see the fucking steam coming out

1326
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 3: of his ears. He goes, did you just tell me

1327
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 3: to eat your ship? So I did that bit like

1328
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: Jim Carrey when Sea Bass comes.

1329
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: Over and dumb and dumber. He's like, whoja who who

1330
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: prew that?

1331
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: And I was over like looking around and this guy

1332
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 3: gets up in my friend's face, spitt all flying everywhere,

1333
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 3: like fuck you, I'll kill you, and I was trying

1334
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 3: to contain the laughter. If you had thrown punches, I

1335
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 3: would have intervened, but I loved he was like, I

1336
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 3: didn't even don't know, I didn't even do nothing, and

1337
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 3: the guy was still up in his girl. They eventually

1338
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 3: left because we were complete dickheads.

1339
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 2: Wow, would you sold me out that same way in

1340
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: front of a fighter?

1341
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 3: If he was now, I would not do it, But

1342
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 3: back then I did it.

1343
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 2: Because Phil Baroni slid in my d MS the other

1344
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: day and threatened my life. I love Phil Baroni, dude,

1345
00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: I love the badass.

1346
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 3: What do he saying?

1347
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: Eh? He said I like men basically at the end

1348
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: of the day.

1349
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 3: H Oh did he use a six letter F word?

1350
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: It may have happened, but I love him anyway. You

1351
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: know he's going through some rough times right now. Do

1352
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: you remember the fight with Shamrock BC?

1353
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: Where is your favorite hot dog from? Doesn't have to

1354
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: be a gas station.

1355
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: It's a great question. I live in I come from. Sorry,

1356
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: I come from Naugatuck, Connecticut, in the industrial Naugatuck Valley.

1357
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: Nobody Cares.

1358
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: They have an Alice hot dog stand there that's legendary.

1359
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: But I think the best dary the best hot dogs

1360
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: what that is? The best hot dogs in the world

1361
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: are in Waterberry, Connecticut, of all places, at a place

1362
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: called Blackies on the Waterbury Cheshire line. Okay, and Blackies

1363
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: is this old school place, Luke where when you walk

1364
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: up you have to speak the lingo suit you know,

1365
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: Soup Nazi style. You know, you have to go up

1366
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: there and be like, give me two without or whatever.

1367
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: And if you don't speak at their mandy or they're

1368
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: probably mean to you anyway. But yeah, they're they're smaller

1369
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: than normal, so you can go in there and eat

1370
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: like sixteen of them.

1371
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna laugh at this, but we've been over this

1372
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: a little bit. The best hot dogs in.

1373
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: The world are in I did see your your photos on.

1374
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: This is out of control.

1375
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: And I here's the thing. I'm with you.

1376
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 3: My wife told me that, and I did the whole

1377
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 3: American thing.

1378
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: I go listen, lady, in Los Sostatos sonitos, we invented

1379
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: the hot dog. There's no fucking way that some South

1380
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: American nation has got it on lock.

1381
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 3: And she goes okay, bitch, okay, okay.

1382
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: Oh and so we went to a place that served

1383
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: but what they call, you know, peros peros dogs, same thing,

1384
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: same word.

1385
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 3: And we went there and I was so blown away

1386
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: I couldn't even front. I was like, okay, all right,

1387
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 3: you win.

1388
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: Now, let's talk got dog etiquette here in a sense. Okay,

1389
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm a ketchup guy. I love a ketchup of my dog.

1390
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: My dad whose old school says that's a crime. You're

1391
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: you know, you should be jailed. Where I come from,

1392
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: meaning the nineteen fifties or sixties, it was mustard and

1393
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: relish or both or nothing else.

1394
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 3: Okay, dude, hot dog.

1395
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: A ketchup on hot dog is like America. That's like

1396
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: strictly that's like breasts on a woman, right, strictly ketchup. Yeah,

1397
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 2: if I've got a chance to put the onions on,

1398
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: I'll do it. Okay.

1399
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: So we're talking about like an ideal situation. I would

1400
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: not put strictly ketchup on.

1401
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 2: Okay. If you were going to come in farms for

1402
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: seven to eleven and you're like, you know, fuck it, bro,

1403
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 2: I'll get two hot dogs. What are you putting on there?

1404
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 2: From a gas station, Yes, because those are great by.

1405
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 3: The mustard and probably that's it.

1406
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: You know, it's great. Well, okay, there's a place in

1407
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: New Britain, Connecticut, Britain, Connecticut, a place called Capitol Lunch

1408
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: shout out where they do the full cony dog style

1409
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: with the you know, with the chili on it. I

1410
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: love that ship. You get the chili and the fried onions.

1411
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: That's great. But if I'm going to the gas station,

1412
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm just putting ketchup on and you really can't do

1413
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: anything about that.

1414
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 3: I think you need to work on your palate. That's

1415
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 3: what I think.

1416
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: You got a little bit of a limited palette.

1417
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: Uh Are you tired of the ds brothers having the

1418
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: power to dip in and out as they please?

1419
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: I don't think they have that power.

1420
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: They are solid fighters. I think they're just roadblocks at

1421
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: this time, this person writes.

1422
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 3: What do you think?

1423
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: I mean? You're not wrong in a sense. The roadblock

1424
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: element is that for forever UFC didn't want to pay them,

1425
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: and now it appears that they do. But it appears

1426
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: that the diazers are still still need to be coddle

1427
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 2: Luke and Dana and company. You are not going to

1428
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: coddle them right, No, they're not the coddler. They need

1429
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: to be coddled. They need to be You need to

1430
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: make the diaz. It's like dealing with an in law.

1431
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: You need to make the diaz. Is feel like it's

1432
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 2: their decision, right when in reality you have the plan

1433
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: all along. You can't just say, hey, Nate, we want

1434
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: you to fight Dustin Poorie a at Madison Square Garden.

1435
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: You have to like trick him into it in a

1436
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: way tru or false.

1437
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 3: We got to move through these questions.

1438
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: Why did you put Crawford at number three on your right?

1439
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: Why did you put Crawford at number three on your

1440
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 1: pound for pound?

1441
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: It's a little bit controversial.

1442
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 3: Terrence Crawford, the unbeaten well person says, I'm saying this

1443
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 3: because of the competition.

1444
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: Crawford fought and was lacking and then put in a

1445
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: way at two. I can't even name many guys in

1446
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: a way fought.

1447
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: Okay, if you don't, if then you're not the hardcore

1448
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: first of all. But here's what I'm gonna say. It's

1449
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,439
Speaker 2: a rare time right now for boxing pound for pound,

1450
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 2: where normally there's one guy, or there's Manny or Floyd

1451
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: and you pick. There's like four or five guys right now.

1452
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 3: Canello's not number one.

1453
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: Canelos my number one before Lomachenko lost a lot of

1454
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: people had him. You're not wrong if you have Crawford

1455
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: a new A or Spence as you're pomp upon number one.

1456
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: It was even a rare period where Usik was in

1457
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 2: that discussion. Okay, but Luke, when it's all said and done,

1458
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: Crawford's on the other side of the street at top

1459
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 2: rank and ESPN tell me if I'm wrong, and all

1460
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: the really good Walter wait to with the PBC right correct.

1461
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: So he has had a somewhat limited number of elite opponents,

1462
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: whereas you know what Naoa a new way the Japanese monster.

1463
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 2: Do you know this man?

1464
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,439
Speaker 1: I did it because of what he did last year.

1465
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: He came across my radar life.

1466
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: He went for a title in like this fifth or

1467
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: sixth fight. Every time he moves up, he carries the

1468
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: power with him. He is incredible. That power, regardless of weight,

1469
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 2: would f some people up. This is a man coming

1470
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 2: out of Japan. You're gonna see he does. He fought

1471
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: with a broken orbital bone against Stone Air for ten

1472
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: rounds basically yes, and he got rocked in the ninth.

1473
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 3: And then not just that he won the fight against.

1474
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 2: Him, he said this week, when he got rocked in

1475
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: the ninth, he just kept thinking about his children and

1476
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 2: about their future, and it brought him back from the dead.

1477
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 3: All right.

1478
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 1: If UFC was a weird Russian tag team match fight

1479
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: and Habib and GSP were on one team, who would

1480
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: you put as their opponents regardless of weight to stand

1481
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: a chance? Okay, let's think about this. The wrestlers who

1482
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: have gas tank for days good defense and now they're.

1483
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 2: Sucking pro wrestling and you're thinking amateur.

1484
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 3: No, no, no, they're talking rushing in where you can do

1485
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 3: multiple like fighter on fighter.

1486
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: Oh okay.

1487
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 3: Lobe Comington, honestly is one name.

1488
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 2: It kind of comes to mind because of the tank.

1489
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: The tank is ridiculous, and he is offensive minded, but

1490
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: he doesn't have finishing power.

1491
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 2: No, and his boomerang defensive suspect.

1492
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: How good is yours? Mine's pretty bad? Regardless of size.

1493
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: I mean, would you do Kane or some shit? I mean,

1494
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: would you know I'm trying to think.

1495
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: Somewhere in the ballpark where he at, where he is,

1496
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 3: would you do Wideman.

1497
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: Or can I pick dagas Dwani's because they're because those

1498
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,479
Speaker 2: guys have gas tanks for days, they'll wrestle you through

1499
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 2: the ground. Yeah, they're pretty I'm picking everyone named everyone

1500
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 2: with the Murga Medoff or Islam or uh, some variation

1501
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: of Medoff in their name. That's not racist, that's actually

1502
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 2: pro one race. Right.

1503
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: Don't you find it a little bit weird that like

1504
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: all the rules of that's not the rules.

1505
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 3: How do I say this? Those dudes who come out

1506
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 3: of that region, they're not nothing, that is nothing that

1507
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 3: would intimidate Americans, intimidates them. Yeah, could you get off slack? Motherfucker?

1508
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: Dude, I gotta see if this belat cards heating up?

1509
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: Not heating up on the prelimbs, how could be heating up?

1510
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: After Gastoline lost to Till and Romero to Izzy? Why

1511
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: don't we see those two put together Gasoline versus Romero?

1512
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 2: God, yes, yes, if you could navigate the end of

1513
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: Romero's career not knowing how many elite fights he haves next,

1514
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 2: who do you really regardless of way, who do you

1515
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 2: really want to see him against? Could he survive at

1516
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 2: a five that he can box? He can box. His brother, right,

1517
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: what's his name, Joanna Pablo Herne? Yeah, yeah, his brother,

1518
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right.

1519
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: If you guys never became combat sports analyst, what profession

1520
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: do you think you would have gone to?

1521
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 2: My freshman year in college, I was a physical education

1522
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: major under the guise of thinking the quickest path to

1523
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: the majors, meaning the shortest amount of care you can

1524
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 2: show in college to still get a functional job that

1525
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 2: you can raise a family and own a house, was

1526
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: Jim teacher. I thought, So I did that change it

1527
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 2: to journalism? I mean, if I wasn't covering combat sports,

1528
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what I be covering.

1529
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 3: What would your folks do for a living?

1530
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: Would I be covering high school football for a newspaper

1531
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: for forty years? Maybe? My dad was a fireman.

1532
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 3: My mom super noble profession, right.

1533
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: He retired, Yeah, retired at forty six and moved to

1534
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: Florida and has a giant pension. He figured out that.

1535
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 3: The whole dude, he gained that shit perfectly.

1536
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 2: My mom was various jobs, but you know, high level

1537
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: office stuff, could do office manager type stuff.

1538
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 3: So good for your dad. Your dad's killing the game.

1539
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah he is. You know, he has he looks like

1540
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: he looks like an older version of you.

1541
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 3: Actually, you never thought about doing that shit.

1542
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 2: I did take the test. I took the physical Fireman

1543
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: test when I was like twenty eight, just in case,

1544
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: and I came in fourth and I passed it. You

1545
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 2: gotta carry, dude. That Fireman test is hard. You got

1546
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 2: to carry that one hundred and thirty pound dummy for

1547
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 2: like a long ass distance. You gotta crawl in the

1548
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: dark on your face through some shit. There's a lot

1549
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 2: of lazy, bro you gotta be. You gotta go on

1550
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 2: the on the treadmill, on the stair machine, with a

1551
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: with a weighted vest. And I was watching these giant

1552
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 2: dudes just pass out in front of me and fall over.

1553
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 2: It was pretty scary, all right.

1554
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: All right, If you guys never became calm, bad sports analyst,

1555
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: what profession do you think you?

1556
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 3: Oh, that's what I asked you.

1557
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: What's your answer?

1558
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: Definitely would have done political communication some kind. I was

1559
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: already doing speech writing and I gave that up to

1560
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: do basically full time this.

1561
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 3: I would have just kept going with that, Luke.

1562
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 2: I don't think you're long for combat sports.

1563
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: Everyone tells you you're like the fifth person to tell

1564
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: me that, And I don't understand why, because I don't

1565
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: really have any designs the present moment to do other things.

1566
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: Politics is a beat that never goes out of style.

1567
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

1568
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 2: And in your self sufficient a meaning you buy your

1569
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 2: own technology, you upgrade, you evolve. Shouldn't you be in

1570
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: this political sphere? I mean I need you, I don't

1571
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: need you to go. I mean you know what I'm saying.

1572
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 3: I could do it. Yeah, I could do it, but

1573
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 3: I don't.

1574
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 2: Would you? Would you look yourself in the mirror at

1575
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: night and be happy with who you see on the

1576
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: other side?

1577
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 3: No, I hated that job. I really hated that job.

1578
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: Would you consider your dad in politics in the job

1579
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 2: or no? Or just government?

1580
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? More government, more government.

1581
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 2: What was your middle name again?

1582
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 3: It's uh what what was the name? I can think

1583
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 3: of that?

1584
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: Do you have to think that hard for your own

1585
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: mil I know what it is.

1586
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to not tell you, tell you something else.

1587
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: My middle name is Lexthi impaler.

1588
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: You got a really bad middle name, so you're afraid

1589
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 2: to share it?

1590
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,520
Speaker 3: Search that on YouTube?

1591
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: Have you gone public with your middle name yet? Yes?

1592
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: Of course.

1593
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: I mean I'm just doing the systems as a bit

1594
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,480
Speaker 1: All right, let's see someone writes, I'm a theoretical mathematician

1595
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: with degrees in discrete structures and a plan on submitting

1596
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: a new system for scoring an MM that takes a

1597
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: minute by minute basis into account as well as initiative.

1598
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: Are there any other variables that should be looked at

1599
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: for scoring besides what is announced at the beginning of

1600
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: the event? I guess he means, like tail of the tape.

1601
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 2: No variables for scoring tail the tape wouldn't.

1602
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: No, No, are there any other variables that should be looked

1603
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: at for score besides what is announced at the beginning

1604
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:03,799
Speaker 1: of the event?

1605
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 2: He's saying, are there elements of around that we're not

1606
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 2: scoring that we should to better allow us to get

1607
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 2: an accurate score?

1608
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 3: I don't think that's what he is asking.

1609
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: Are there any other variables that should be looked at

1610
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: for scoring besides what is announced? So that is the

1611
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: basis of what our conversation is is what is so?

1612
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 2: What is what has been announced that that you're scoring

1613
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: an MMA, you're scoring damage, you're scoring.

1614
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: Damage cage control only damage, effective grappling, effective striking first

1615
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: and then after.

1616
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: That, Okay, because boxing you have more of there's defense,

1617
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 2: there's effective aggression, there's like different sort of things. So

1618
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 2: he's asking I think what he's asking is, are there

1619
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 2: elements of the M M A game that we're not

1620
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 2: weighing enough in terms of who wins? You know, we

1621
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 2: used to overrate takedowns right now if you don't do

1622
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 2: anything with a takedown now, I think we underrate them personally.

1623
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: But I agree, But I don't know how to answer

1624
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,560
Speaker 1: that question without getting better clarification of it.

1625
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 2: The punt straight up punt from.

1626
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 3: So do we need to know he was a mathematician? Well, like,

1627
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 3: can't you just answered that? Asked the question?

1628
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 2: Like you people that have you know, they like, you know,

1629
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: pull that? So I got, I got a producer credit.

1630
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 2: I went to William and Mary my dad is brought the.

1631
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 3: Producer credit up.

1632
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: Is because you tried to challenge me in a way

1633
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 1: that you couldn't You forced my hand?

1634
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: What way?

1635
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 3: How did I get what it was at this point?

1636
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: But I remember the time being like, all right, I

1637
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: gotta pull it out. Now, I gotta pull it out.

1638
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 2: B bro, I'm the ketchup in this burger, all right,

1639
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 2: I'm the blue cheese no, you know what I'm saying,

1640
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 2: you know, and I'll just ketch up. I'll find another

1641
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 2: piece of meat. Bro Okay, I don't need you. I

1642
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 2: don't need you. Is that what it is?

1643
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:41,839
Speaker 3: Mister k on Twitter?

1644
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 2: Do I care? Do I care?

1645
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 3: That's that's just the problem for you. Think, Oh, I'll

1646
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,799
Speaker 3: just align with these major corporate brands and by virtue

1647
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,959
Speaker 3: of magic, their big audience will just translate maybe awareness

1648
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 3: of micro I.

1649
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 2: At all. Maybe I'll just live my personal life and

1650
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 2: be real happy list Indian Genesis records in my basement

1651
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 2: and trying to deprove my social status.

1652
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a time when you weren't able

1653
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: to be completely honest on your thoughts about a fighter

1654
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: h due to pressure from higher ups? Managers are certain

1655
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: animate league presidents?

1656
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 2: All right, yes, and I want to I want to

1657
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 2: preface it like this, not specific pressure of don't say this,

1658
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 2: but I think that. Look, if you're a journalist, there

1659
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 2: are some lines that traditionally you don't want to cross.

1660
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 2: Here's how I'm gonna frame this, Luke. There are people

1661
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 2: who think I just appeared on the combat media scene

1662
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: like in the past year.

1663
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's because I blew up your spot.

1664
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 2: That's why, because your bland meat finally got the the

1665
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 2: you know, the the wrapping it needed this whole time.

1666
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 2: So and you know the thing I'll say to that

1667
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: is I win a lot of years Luke trying to belong,

1668
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 2: trying to prove I fit in, but not being me.

1669
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 2: And tell me if I tell me if I'm incorrect

1670
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 2: on this. Okay. You know when there's a big fight

1671
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 2: that crosses over to the level that your friends from

1672
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 2: high school or college or whatever texting you about it, right, yes,

1673
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 2: and they always want to know, either who should I

1674
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 2: bet on, Who's gonna win this whatever? And there's two

1675
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 2: answers you can give them. There's the I'm on camera

1676
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 2: for a major corporation answer, which would be to not

1677
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 2: necessarily over expose certain things but just sort of say, well,

1678
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 2: if this guy out boxes this guy. And then there's

1679
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 2: the thing you tell your friend, which is fighter B

1680
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: is washed. Fighter A might actually be on ROYD, so

1681
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 2: if the fight goes into the late rounds, don't favor him.

1682
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: I one day woke up and said, why do I

1683
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 2: have two different opinions? So I can't think be the

1684
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 2: same Luke.

1685
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 3: Man. That's real, noble and brave.

1686
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 2: It's deep, right, as deep as shit.

1687
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 3: You think that that is somehow some interesting revelation.

1688
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 2: The moment I bridge those two caps together, Luke the

1689
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 2: phone ringing.

1690
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, how come you're not blocked by I'll tell you why,

1691
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: still ringing, bro?

1692
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 3: Because you got generic opinions?

1693
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: Still ringing, bro, Okay, still ringing.

1694
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 1: The answer is not in the way that person has

1695
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: framed it. But I have definitely had moments where I

1696
01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: have let personal like of a fighter effect the way

1697
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: in which I viewed them, and it took wake up,

1698
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: calls me to be like, you know what, I was

1699
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 1: wrong for that, but not to like curry favor, not

1700
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: in that way. But I definitely But there's aevere times

1701
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: I look back and I was like, that was drinking.

1702
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 3: I was drinking the kool aid a little bit.

1703
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 2: And there's also times, you know, if I play up

1704
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 2: this certain element of the larger storyline, it doesn't favor

1705
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 2: anybody and sets me back.

1706
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: But also, here's one thing I think folks understand about

1707
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 1: the show. We're not We don't say things we don't believe,

1708
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: but we will go through the process of debate such

1709
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,839
Speaker 1: that will air views that we may not necessarily espouse

1710
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 1: for the purpose of having a broader conversation about these things.

1711
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: I disagree with that. Are you saying that you don't?

1712
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 3: Really you've done it to me? Motherfucker? How can you

1713
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 3: say you disagree?

1714
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: What have I done to you? No?

1715
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 3: In the it's a routine exercise. Well, looke, what about

1716
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 3: the idea that blah blahlahlah blah blahlah blah blah.

1717
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: What about the idea is different than Hey, you know what,

1718
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 2: even though I don't really believe, I'm I'm gonna bailish

1719
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 2: your ass, all right.

1720
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're skipping this. I'm saying we'll give

1721
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 1: oxygen to ideas.

1722
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,879
Speaker 2: Yes, for the purpose of conversation. Plus also for the

1723
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 2: a lot of times we're wrong, a lot of times

1724
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: the betting odd's been wrong. A lot of times you

1725
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: don't see something coming. So I want to paint the

1726
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 2: full picture. But uh yeah, I don't. I don't take

1727
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 2: on a certain stance to fill a gap. Though.

1728
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: Let's move this along. What do you make of a

1729
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 1: Wednesday Night card four times a month with no headliner,

1730
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: which is to say, no names except incoming Contender series

1731
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: debuts and one stacked pay per view a month and

1732
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: another ESPN card plus per month with only one to

1733
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: twenty ranked fires on the card. Motherfucker, this sounds way

1734
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 1: too complicated and unnecessary. How about just making available fights

1735
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 1: tox that they are available?

1736
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 2: You have no care that that man's a dedicated customer

1737
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 2: of our of our shop, and he loves us, and

1738
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 2: he had a great idea, and you're like, motherfucker.

1739
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 3: You know no.

1740
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: This is somebody who is earnestly asking a reasonable question,

1741
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: but it's a question born out of I'm gonna guess,

1742
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: and it could be wrong relatively modern fandom, or maybe

1743
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 1: he trying to answer the question about like, how what

1744
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: do you do with so many different fighters at so

1745
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: many different events? Is there a better way to organize it?

1746
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,520
Speaker 1: And the answer is the matchmaker model has lots of problems,

1747
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: but the freedom to organize in the way that they

1748
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 1: do is one of the things that, on balance, is

1749
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: better about it.

1750
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,560
Speaker 2: Louke, how do you sleep at night easily? U? No

1751
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 2: rugru exists? The correct answer?

1752
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 3: Thank you? Is anyone else in here?

1753
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 2: Question? The guy wrote it, I'm going to answer it right.

1754
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: Why isn't GSP versus Adasignia talked about or hypothetically discussed

1755
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 1: more in theory, it offers a lot of the same

1756
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: benefits as GSP because.

1757
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: There's nothing for GSP to gain in that fight and

1758
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 2: he's more likely to lose it, Meaning he would fight

1759
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 2: Habib because he would have a shot at becoming the

1760
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 2: only three division champion in UFC history. And the fact

1761
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: that GFC GSP believes that he can make the weight

1762
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 2: and win it was the driving force in it. Why

1763
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: did he move to middleweight to prove to us that

1764
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 2: he is? You know, Look, the guys that are at

1765
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: the goat table, it's hard to get there. It's harder

1766
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 2: to separate yourself from the others. GSP wanted to do that. Look,

1767
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: you have to give that man a ton of respect.

1768
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 2: GSP do his whole career, plus him saying, you know what,

1769
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna cut down a fifty five at thirty nine.

1770
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 2: You know who does that? Bro? GSP, Well, he's not

1771
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 2: gonna get a chance to unless Hey, unless, Dana, This

1772
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 2: is a question for you, you fucking creep.

1773
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 1: If you could have a date with any fighter, who

1774
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: and why.

1775
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 2: We can't have that talk maybe on our pat.

1776
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: Let me say this, let me say this. Yeah, we'll

1777
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 1: put this on our Patreon show. We don't have a

1778
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: Patreon number one number two. You think I want to

1779
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 1: go on.

1780
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 2: A date, I would. I would.

1781
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 3: Oh really, I want to go and make conversation to

1782
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 3: pretend I'm somebody I'm not in.

1783
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 2: Spending money has different chapters to it. Luke, there's say

1784
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 2: somethings that happened on it. Let me say something. There's

1785
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 2: a lot of reasons why I don't want to get divorced.

1786
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 3: What is it? I love my wife deeply.

1787
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 2: Oh dude, that's I'm saying. In another Yeah, I love

1788
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 2: my wife deeply. Universe.

1789
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: You know, I could never imagine myself with anybody else.

1790
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, the other at the

1791
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 1: bottom of that list is also going to be do.

1792
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 3: Dating is fucking taxing. Fuck that.

1793
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 2: It's also exciting. Look, but it is taxing.

1794
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: Here is tax It can be exciting. It's a lot

1795
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: of Listen, it's like hitting the lottery. It's like there's

1796
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: no difference. I mean, there's no either you hit it

1797
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: or you didn't, right, and so most of the scratch offs.

1798
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 2: Dating is a lot like either you hit it or

1799
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,560
Speaker 2: you didn't. As well, you know, not for me, But

1800
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 2: I don't really have that history.

1801
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, how many women have you slept with that?

1802
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 1: Really?

1803
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 3: Really we're here, I'm gonna guess my numbers, not that

1804
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 3: I have anything to brag about. I'm gonna guess mine

1805
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 3: is sleight.

1806
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 2: He had two swords in his satchel, the producer's sword

1807
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 2: in the You know, at the end of the day,

1808
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 2: I bet you'd bang more girls than you.

1809
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 3: You know. What I mean really is saying it's a

1810
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 3: relevant thing.

1811
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: I would never want to go on a date. But

1812
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: if we're just going straight to the booty, what do you.

1813
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 2: Think I gotta go straight right? If I'm going sorry, nothing, nothing,

1814
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 2: I'll just say I'm our only fans after show, I got.

1815
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 3: A lot of We should have an only fans channel.

1816
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: It would be absolutely filthy and awful and totally of

1817
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: ill reput.

1818
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: We would get a lot of male fighters in our dms,

1819
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 2: threatening us like right, remember when, or just egging us on.

1820
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 2: Remember when Fort Griffin tried to fight you.

1821
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 3: He didn't try to fight me, He just threatened me verbally.

1822
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 2: Boy, I love that man, all right.

1823
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: Although Chandler and Ferguson, excuse me, Chandler versus.

1824
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 3: I can't read for shit where my glasses watch the ship?

1825
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 3: Although Chandler versus Ferguson seems more likely. Are we sleeping on?

1826
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 1: What a dynamite matchup Ferguson versus OLIVERA could.

1827
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 2: Be well in theory?

1828
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 3: Can I I are sleeping on Oliver?

1829
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 2: Can I close this conversation by saying anyone in the

1830
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 2: top ten of lightweight against each other at sex? So,

1831
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 2: first of all, that's that people are blowing Oliver up.

1832
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 2: People are going to Doe Bronx a little bit too hard.

1833
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 3: Right now, I disagree.

1834
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: I think he's great, but like there are other the issue.

1835
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 3: Isn't that you can go to him as a guaranteed winner.

1836
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 3: The issue is win or lose. He'd be exciting, and

1837
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 3: given his recent improvements, there's at least reasons to think

1838
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 3: he'd be more competitive than he had been in his

1839
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 3: early story.

1840
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 2: Long term, does he take Barbosa's old role as the

1841
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 2: elite and exciting lightweight who never actually went to.

1842
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: See That's the thing I don't know. So I think

1843
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: some of these questions being answered with more matchups will

1844
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: tell us I love Barbosa.

1845
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, he's great.

1846
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Luke take it to the next level. I

1847
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 2: love it.

1848
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: Uh, now that Max has fought Volkanovski twice and the

1849
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: lightweight division is more open, does it make sense for

1850
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: moving back up? But kind of an over that, Luke,

1851
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: I just moved from the Netherlands to California. Why Jesus

1852
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: and I was wondering if you think that Dutch kickboxing

1853
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: could be a potential base for a fighter in modern MMA.

1854
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a good question for you, Luke, Please answer that.

1855
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 3: It could be.

1856
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 2: I love the Dutch, been to the Netherlands.

1857
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: No, wow, dude, you don't know what you're missing. You

1858
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: don't know what you're missing. Let me explain something to

1859
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: about the Dutch.

1860
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 3: The red light district, that's the You could get rid

1861
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 3: of it and it wouldn't change my opinion.

1862
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 2: Want the weed district.

1863
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: First of all, it's not even legal. They just it's

1864
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: that they don't prosecute it. There's actually a thing called

1865
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 1: coffee shops. And then coffee shops two words versus one word.

1866
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: You want to find the one that's one word, and

1867
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 1: that's where they have the weed. But okay, that parts

1868
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: not that great because laws are changing here slowly but surely,

1869
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: and whatever, it's still pretty great. It's still great, but

1870
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: it's not. That's not what makes the Netherlands and Netherlands.

1871
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 1: I've talked to this about the Dutch and they don't

1872
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: appreciate this, at least not as much as I do.

1873
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 2: The Dutch basically have the Dutch are Holland and Netherlands,

1874
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 2: but not Denmark.

1875
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 3: They're the Danes, correct, the Denmark or Danes?

1876
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: So that that awesome guy Cally Matisen, he's a he's

1877
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:50,719
Speaker 2: a he's a Danish fellow.

1878
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: Who's the new guy who the Olympic wrestler, the god

1879
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: what is his name? Had them on my show? I

1880
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: forget his name now, Mark o' maadson. Yes, he's a

1881
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: fucking beast.

1882
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 2: He's out, he's Danish, got it.

1883
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 3: We're talking about do just the Netherlands, Okay.

1884
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 2: The Dutch, the Dutch, the Dutch. There's a wooden shoes

1885
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,839
Speaker 2: in windmills, correct in boss rutin correct.

1886
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 3: I've never seen a place where I was there and

1887
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 3: I thought to myself, they've just figured out how to

1888
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 3: arrange society here. This is how it should look.

1889
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 2: So if this country went to hell, and I know

1890
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 2: you're saying, well, that.

1891
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 3: Actually already is right now I've actually said nothing of

1892
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 3: the kind. Right, one of us served this country.

1893
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 2: One of us I forgot, one of us got the

1894
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 2: capital tattooed.

1895
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 1: On, one of us actually put our money where the

1896
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,480
Speaker 1: mouth is, one of us didn't.

1897
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: And one of us is well more adjusted to regular

1898
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 2: society because of that.

1899
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 3: This guy right here.

1900
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 2: Oh but I will say this though, Luke, where are

1901
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 2: we going?

1902
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 3: Oh so you're asking you like if it went like, hey.

1903
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, what would be your country of of run? Would

1904
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 2: you join? Would you join? The Bronze stut Ter Helwani

1905
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 2: Clan up North?

1906
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 3: Canada is great our.

1907
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 2: Elements that I love of Canada. Canada really, yes, I've

1908
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 2: been to Montreal.

1909
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 3: Montreal is one of the great cities of the world.

1910
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 2: Okay, let's no, let's actually be honest about this. I've

1911
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 2: been to Montreal twice and I actually have never been

1912
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 2: to Canada. Beyond that, my people are from do you

1913
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 2: know I'm fifty percent Luke French Canadian? Right? My people are.

1914
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 3: From caves French Canadian.

1915
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: All right, right, here's what you have no connection to

1916
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 1: them other than some kind of ancestry.

1917
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 2: Oh you know, look at me, Look at me, look

1918
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 2: at me.

1919
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:34,759
Speaker 3: Every person I'm the captain.

1920
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 2: Every person in theory has eight eight great grandparents, right, yep,

1921
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,759
Speaker 2: because your parents, each of your parents has four grandparents.

1922
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 3: You can tell the story quicker.

1923
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 2: Yes, so I am four as one half Lithuanian, three

1924
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 2: eighths French, Canadian, and a and an eighth Irish.

1925
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 3: Just genetically, you are culturally none of these things.

1926
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't say that. I'm talking about what what

1927
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 2: what fuels me? Then? What are you, Luke fifty percent Armenian?

1928
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 3: I'm one hundred percent American?

1929
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 2: No? No, Look, first of all, really.

1930
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna do You're gonna doubt my credentials.

1931
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: Bitch my credentials as like gung ho American, they outweigh yours.

1932
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 3: Oh mego. I went to Paris Island. I stood on

1933
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 3: the yellow footprints. I earned that ship.

1934
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 2: You're not gonna take it away from me because you

1935
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 2: live into.

1936
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: You don't know what I had to earn there. You

1937
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: don't know what I had to earn their mother. You're

1938
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 1: not gonna take it away from me. You're not gonna

1939
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: take it away from me.

1940
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 2: So what are your fifty percent Armenian?

1941
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 3: No?

1942
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: Because my mom is nominally Armenian. She grew up with

1943
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:32,560
Speaker 1: an Armenian.

1944
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 2: But her parents are Armenians.

1945
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, but in Lebanon, Like, I don't know how much

1946
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: Armenian she even spoke. They spoke French, German and Arabic

1947
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: at homes.

1948
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 2: But the blood. It's not about the culture.

1949
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 3: That's not quite true.

1950
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 2: That's really And then what is your dad makeup? Americansko bro, Dude,

1951
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 2: obviously what is he? Where did his ancestors.

1952
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: And they are from we think England or Ireland, We're

1953
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 1: not quite sure.

1954
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 2: All right, that makes something makes sense, Dude. You are

1955
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 2: trying to stiff arm Europe and say I'm American the fucker.

1956
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 3: Because you watching a stiff at people with people like

1957
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 3: people claim like, oh, I'm a fucking quarter German.

1958
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: You know nothing about Germany. You've never been to Germany,

1959
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: you don't speak any German, you have no connection to it.

1960
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 3: I don't have any real connection.

1961
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 2: To Armenia in that way.

1962
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: I have much more of a connection to Lebanon in

1963
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 1: that way culturally anyway.

1964
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: Hang out with tarvid In for a week, you'll have

1965
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 2: a deeper connection, right.

1966
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, maybe, but you know I don't have it

1967
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: in the same way. I don't reject it, but I don't.

1968
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 2: I don't.

1969
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: I can't claim it. It's not like a thing I did.

1970
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: And so I think when people, I think when Americans

1971
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: are like, I'm fucking quarter Irish? Why because you had

1972
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 1: an Irish car bomb on fucking Saint Patrick's Day?

1973
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 3: Is that what makes is that what makes Irish? You

1974
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 3: fucking move?

1975
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 2: You bang somebody named Jane one time?

1976
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know that's none of this makes you Irish.

1977
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: You have to be a part of that land, in

1978
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 1: that culture anyway.

1979
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But I.

1980
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,719
Speaker 1: Think Dutch kickboxing could be a base for a modern MMA,

1981
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit, but that's not the way I

1982
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: would go modern MM striking. The best ones take something

1983
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 1: that just it's you have to have a striking stuff

1984
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: out specific to MMA, not something that's good for something else,

1985
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna retro fit it. I wouldn't recommend Luke.

1986
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 2: Who's UFC legacy have has most been forgotten because of

1987
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 2: the ZUFA changeover from SEG. So Frank Shamrock is probably

1988
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 2: number one on the list. Was there anybody else was

1989
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 2: getting sucked over in terms of not getting the historical respect.

1990
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 3: Frank Frank SHAMROCK's number one.

1991
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 2: Is bosson there was a too short of a window

1992
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: because they don't they don't blow a boss.

1993
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: The boss was Boss is relevant because he takes a

1994
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: lot of gigs, you know, and people love him and.

1995
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 3: He's got good modern opinions. But he got out of

1996
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 3: the game.

1997
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: I mean, the win over Kevin Randaman was like he

1998
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: was moderately more like jiu jitsu than Kevin.

1999
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 3: So he got the wind, but he didn't really deserve it.

2000
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2001
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: Frank is the obvious one. Tim Sylvia gets shipped on.

2002
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: Tim Silvia was pretty accomplished actually for every weight. Yeah,

2003
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: I mean.

2004
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 2: Ken Shamrock too.

2005
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: They I mean they support Tim, Ken gets but Ken

2006
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: gets a lot of like World's Most Dangerous Man and

2007
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. You know, all right, Brian, if you

2008
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 1: had to choose only one combat sport to cover, what

2009
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 1: do you do for.

2010
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 2: The rest of my life?

2011
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? That's it.

2012
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: So I love boxing more than mixed martial arts. I

2013
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 2: don't think that's a surprise. But mixed martial arts is

2014
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 2: a more sustainable full time job, Luke, Is that right?

2015
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: And I think you will get more entertainment if you're

2016
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 2: into this job for the entertainment factor, which it's not

2017
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 2: gonna lie A large part of why I do this job.

2018
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 2: I have the passion because I'm a super fan, and

2019
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 2: I just happen to get really good seats at these

2020
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 2: fights and get a camera to talk into. I think it. Yeah,

2021
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 2: I would. I would be a mixed martial arts journalist.

2022
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 1: You're like, I get really great seats at it. I'm like,

2023
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: I never think about it on those terms.

2024
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 3: I don't care. So let's talk about don't care about it.

2025
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,919
Speaker 2: Let's talk about intention, which is why.

2026
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 3: Which is why was it? The crowd of there is not.

2027
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm not to say it's imaterial because that's an overstatement,

2028
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: but it's overstated.

2029
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 2: They're important. Let's talk about journalism. You know who I

2030
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 2: respect a lot for their their their core beliefs and

2031
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 2: what makes them up. Somebody like Josh Gross. You know,

2032
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 2: you know Josh Gross. I was his editor at ESPN

2033
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 2: for a short season. I really like the guy. When

2034
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 2: I think of that guy, I think journalism, right, yep,

2035
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 2: that's his passion? Did My passion is entertainment? Luke, I'd

2036
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: like to talk into a camera.

2037
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 3: Yes, then what are you?

2038
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 2: And fights? Give me phoners. So you say, and I,

2039
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 2: you know, are you saying that? What are you saying

2040
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 2: about me? Because of that, I.

2041
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 1: Think if you're going to do something like that, then

2042
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: you just sort of have to be honest and say

2043
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 1: what you're not.

2044
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: So you're telling me that when I look in the mirror,

2045
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,799
Speaker 2: Spider Man meme, I see what's the guy's name.

2046
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 3: The carrot top?

2047
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 2: No, No, the other guy, the other guy, the damn uh,

2048
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 2: the damn guy, the guy with the glasses, carrot top, No,

2049
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 2: the other guy with the glasses. That the the damn

2050
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 2: what's the guy's name?

2051
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: He's a character, you know, the guy character top with glasses. Smoo.

2052
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 2: You see, you're saying that the Schmoe and I are

2053
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 2: the same. We're both in it.

2054
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 3: You're not the same.

2055
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 2: I love the Shmo. By the way.

2056
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 1: You try to straddle a line where you get all

2057
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,839
Speaker 1: the benefits of being the SHMO without actually being somebody

2058
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 1: who is sort of.

2059
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 3: Understood to be. Not in this for strictly journalistic purposes.

2060
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 2: I'm in this because Schmo is.

2061
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 3: Like, am I the number one consumer of his product? No?

2062
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,719
Speaker 3: Not necessarily, but what Schmo does is very honest.

2063
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 2: It's a hard worker, I'll give I don't want to

2064
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 2: everything about the stick, but he's.

2065
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: A hard working It's not for me, but it doesn't matter.

2066
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 1: Lots of things not for me that are good. Schmoe's

2067
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:30,640
Speaker 1: approach to the game is the most honest because there

2068
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: are people that do hardcore journalism and people are mostly

2069
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 1: in the middle. Like you and me, we're somewhere in

2070
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,799
Speaker 1: that middle space where you do want to be entertaining,

2071
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 1: but you want to stick to some principles and you're

2072
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 1: always kind of wrestling without to do that, especially in

2073
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 1: sports where you're like, how.

2074
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 3: Serious is this? Blah blah blah. And then there are

2075
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 3: people who just say, you know what, he's what I'm

2076
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 3: gonna do.

2077
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna provide entertainment and information, and I'm gonna do

2078
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: it as a representative explicitly of the fan. And it's

2079
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm not fully that right, you know, so he is,

2080
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 1: and there's I'm not judging it. I'm saying that's an

2081
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 1: honest thing to be. People respond to it. I think

2082
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 1: the fighters love it, I think the fans love it,

2083
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 1: and frankly I respect it more than I respected, way

2084
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: more than people are, like I'm a journalist, and then

2085
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 1: what they end up doing is just sucking the dick

2086
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 1: of power over and over and over again.

2087
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 2: Would you say I'm a libertarian as a pertraining stemma media.

2088
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 2: So here's the deal, Luke, I'm not in there to

2089
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 2: break news. I'm not in there to although I respect journalism.

2090
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 2: Do you know what I like doing, Luke, Getting to

2091
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 2: the heart of the story right in a good ass feature.

2092
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 2: You don't write anymore, you don't care.

2093
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 3: I like to write that shit doesn't mean anything anymore.

2094
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: I like to write a good ass feature and tell

2095
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 2: you that this fight rules. You know what I mean, Luke.

2096
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:43,560
Speaker 2: You know I'm probably going to get out of the

2097
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 2: business after this the show, after this episode.

2098
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I got out of writing because I realized

2099
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 3: it is so overrated as a means of career advancement,

2100
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 3: of like taste making advancement. It does, Matt, unless you're

2101
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 3: unless you're super.

2102
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 2: Good, not wrong, and I'm not. I'm not super great

2103
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 2: at it. I just really like it, Luke. Do you

2104
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 2: think do you think, Luke, that I think I should

2105
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 2: quit this business?

2106
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 3: No, I think you're good at it.

2107
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 2: I don't always feel you respect me as a condiment.

2108
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 3: Would I attach myself to you if I respect you.

2109
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 2: You look at me as a condiment to your meat.

2110
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 2: You say you were the blue cheese. I to catch up, motherfucker.

2111
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 3: I didn't fucking say you said that, not me.

2112
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 2: All right back, let's get back on track. Here, we

2113
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 2: get We're done. We didn't get them all, did we?

2114
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think we did. But we've also been going

2115
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 3: for shipload and I have to upload all this.

2116
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go watch Belator and stuff. Luke, do

2117
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 2: you have a favorite hot dog?

2118
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 3: Gosh?

2119
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 2: Oh, you missed the last question too, which was who

2120
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 2: was who had a better middle rate run.

2121
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 3: Whittaker is still in his twenties, so you can't say

2122
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 3: it's over who had a better up to this point obviously.

2123
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 2: I mean we're we gonna project the future.

2124
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say didn't take as many else sports.

2125
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 2: Over the quarantine. When we re ranked the best in

2126
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 2: division history in UFC, the problem was, Luke, there's no

2127
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:17,600
Speaker 2: clear cut number two middleweight in UFC history? Am I

2128
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 2: right or wrong? You're gonna end up at Wideman. You're

2129
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 2: gonna You're gonna you're gonna argue. You're gonna okay now

2130
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,719
Speaker 2: it is, yes, but you're gonna argue for rock Hold.

2131
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna actually, you're gonna make a sneaky argument for

2132
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:35,719
Speaker 2: Vitor Belfort. Tell me if I'm wrong, No, I would

2133
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 2: not know that twenty thirteen happened. You can't take that

2134
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 2: away from him.

2135
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 3: Luke, right, you just can't also overstate it.

2136
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 2: Anyway. You're gonna end up at Wideman. But number three

2137
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 2: now after after out of Sonya, yes.

2138
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 3: Well as Gene Wong. Hang on, I want to hear this.

2139
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 2: He's a Washington guy.

2140
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, DC Washington Post. Yes, this is someone hacked into

2141
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 3: them here. Questions are concerned. Let's go. Your last fight was.

2142
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 2: Right down love that guy? Oh yeah, Jason is well, yeah.

2143
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 3: I don't care about that ship.

2144
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 2: All right, luc Let's wrap this ship up.

2145
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 3: Okay, let's wrap it up. Bro. We didn't we didn't

2146
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 3: go off the rails in this one.

2147
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 2: I don't think we got fired at all.

2148
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:36,759
Speaker 3: We tried.

2149
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

2150
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 3: I got the swill, Son.

2151
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 2: That's all the spit and the ejaculation fluid. Yeah, that's disgusting.

2152
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 3: That's malt liquor.

2153
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 2: Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker.

2154
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: Just as a lesson, I am the I am the

2155
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 1: last swallow there of the mot liquor because if it

2156
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 1: was actual beer, you wouldn't necessarily feel that way. But

2157
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:08,719
Speaker 1: it's not beer.

2158
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 2: So look, I'm the Yowanna young j Chug of MMA media.

2159
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 2: Who are you? Are you more the you fancy yourself

2160
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 2: as more of like the Chris Cyborg. That's who you

2161
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 2: fancy yourself.

2162
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that means.

2163
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 2: In female MMA. You fancy yourself as the Chris Cyborg

2164
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 2: of MMA media. I'm a little bit more yo, wanna

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Speaker 2: post surgery ready for action?

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Speaker 3: You're so stupid? Uh?

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01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 2: I am?

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Speaker 3: Who am I? I don't know.

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01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm not Amanda. I'm sorry you're not.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say I was Amanda. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You know what you were? Your cat Sangano before she

2172
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 2: ran full speed at Rondo like that second before right

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Speaker 2: free surgery, Right it all went down from there.

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Speaker 1: Huh uh, Well we'll see, We'll see how things go

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: Uh would you rather be right now? Okay, for the

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Speaker 2: rest of your life starting now, moving forward? Travis Brown

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Speaker 2: or Edmund Tarverdian, Jesus, you gotta go our Median on

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Speaker 2: this one. He has I would go to tar Verdian.

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Speaker 2: You gotta go Brown. You got bro, you gotta go brown.

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01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think so.

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01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: All right, well.

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell or Brian Carroway, which.

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Speaker 3: You're so stupid? Uh, Luke Thomas or Luke Rock If

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Speaker 3: you want more of Morning Combat YouTube dot com slash morning.

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01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 2: Give you lukerocled for half hour? Where would you go

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Speaker 2: with that?

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01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:48,680
Speaker 1: I told you the story before. Do you remember when

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Speaker 1: he went on Matchmaker a Millionaire?

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01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:51,719
Speaker 2: Yes, he got said to hell by Patty.

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01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 3: He got super si hell.

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Speaker 1: Except it didn't really work because after the show aired,

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Speaker 1: I woke up one morning and like, I had like

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Speaker 1: fish fifteen or twenty dms from Okay, some zero's, some sevens,

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Speaker 1: a couple eight's and nines along the way. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: they were all like, I don't care what happened on

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Speaker 1: that show. Lol, You're so great, And I'm like, wait

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Speaker 1: a second here.

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Speaker 2: They confused you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they thought I was him, and I thought to myself,

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Speaker 3: oh honey, so Misha.

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01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 2: Slidded my DMS one time for that same way thinking

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01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 2: I was Caraway. What did you say? I'm deeply kidding.

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Speaker 1: They must have only done it because they had a

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01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 1: superficial like checking like it's like Luke and Mma.

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01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 3: It must be him kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: Your your handle was probably Luke Thomas m atisode something

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Speaker 2: like that, and then really, what do you know? L

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01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 2: Thomas News.

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01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 3: Yeah you're better than that. They got all fucked up.

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01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 2: Okay, but you need a better handle.

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Speaker 1: You're just b Campbell, bitch, what do you think? Your's

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01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: some artistic guess name? What are you prints? You're just

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01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 1: an expression.

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Speaker 2: Now you're fucking L Thomas News chicking in, you know

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Speaker 2: from Washington d C. It's Luke Thomas Channel five. All right,

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01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 2: that's bullshit.

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Speaker 1: You've had too much to drink and you need to

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Speaker 1: leave the bummer, sir. All right, that's Brian Campbell. I'm

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 3: This is close in time, Room Service Diaries, Jersey City.

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Speaker 3: It's been good to be back.

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Speaker 2: I guess forty two ounces.

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Speaker 1: Forty two ounces to forty ounces, that's about forty one.

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Speaker 2: Well, I did want to honor Jackie Robinson by going

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Speaker 2: the full forty two right, No one can wear this jersey.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's Brian. I'm Luke. Thanks for watching. Go

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Speaker 3: fuck yourself