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Speaker 2: Donks look at this now, tip to tip. This is

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Speaker 2: our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit we

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Speaker 2: bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, South Florida where it's washye. I guess we

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Speaker 3: uh we fit right in. It's Morning Combat, the final

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Speaker 3: day of the South Florida Content Tour on this Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: April fifth, two thousand and twenty three, the BBC with

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Speaker 3: the BDE the Brian Campbell coming at you. It's not Friday,

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Speaker 3: but it will get artsy. I'll be your host today.

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Speaker 3: But they come for you, Luke. Do they whether they

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Speaker 3: stay or not? Right, that's a debate. But he's the

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Speaker 3: best damn fight analyst in the game. Today I'm trying

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, how are you. We're here in Fort Lauderdale.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Like listen, if your car's broken down, you need

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Speaker 3: We have built an incredible backlog of content this week.

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Speaker 3: slash Morning Combat right now and check out our lengthy

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Speaker 3: chat with Gilbert Burns ahead of Saturday's UFC two eighty

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Speaker 3: seven co main event. But we have room service diaries

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Speaker 3: in the can here, Luke with how about Bam Bam,

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Speaker 3: Lou Yeah, so we lick.

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Speaker 1: Some toads and talked to Rashad. It was excellent.

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Speaker 3: So you know this week the next week, lots of

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Speaker 3: We were happy to be here obviously. This is also

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Speaker 3: which will be a monster part of our show today, Luke,

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Speaker 1: Well, I have to apologize to Danny Sigurda because obviously

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Speaker 1: so BC's gonna eat Columbius. Let me apologize to Danny

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Speaker 3: In this this week. It was a crime, but it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it was very rewarding. Happy to have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the last time a woman like you

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Speaker 1: Luke probably looks like she's been cooking.

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Speaker 1: I think it will be. Well, here's the thing. I

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Speaker 1: He had a really interesting stat and we talked about

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Speaker 1: In the fight, he averaged three point nine to one

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Speaker 1: As indicated, he was also suffering from some of the

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Speaker 3: Padata is an interesting unicorn where obviously there's some limitations

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Speaker 3: If you're easy though, you don't come into this fight.

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Speaker 3: Well, he did slip in counter early, but that takes

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Speaker 1: But the thing is just pa Data is very careful

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Speaker 1: It could be as very interesting. Now we'll say Izzy's

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Speaker 3: a spot where Padata would want to be.

434
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Speaker 1: I'd say yes, I think so too. And this is

435
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,880
Speaker 1: the other part where we don't we haven't really discussed enough.

436
00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,520
Speaker 1: We always talk about how big Padata is, and he

437
00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,399
Speaker 1: is certainly just enormous for the weight class. That is

438
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,479
Speaker 1: one hurdle I just don't think Iszy can overcome. I

439
00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,919
Speaker 1: don't think it's not to say that he can't or

440
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,679
Speaker 1: has it. I'm told that this camp is like the

441
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 1: most amazing one of his life. I mean, and again

442
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,960
Speaker 1: we talked about he hasn't been hardly any media this week.

443
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 1: I think today he will because it's media day, but

444
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,960
Speaker 1: really he hasn't gone out and done the extra stuff.

445
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 1: Seems very focused, which I understand, but dude, the physical

446
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,000
Speaker 1: presence of Patata, I just don't know what is he

447
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 1: can do with that. He can work on strength and

448
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 1: conditioning to minimize the gap between himself and Panata, but

449
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 1: Padata just seems naturally bigger, obviously, and he does seem

450
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 1: stronger and then some of those positions in the clinch.

451
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,480
Speaker 1: Here's what I was arguing on my live chat BC.

452
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 1: I wonder what you make of this. I actually feel like,

453
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, trying to if you're is he trying to

454
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 1: get him to shoot on the double or the single

455
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 1: or whatever more traditional wrestling and hip attacks and that

456
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 1: or leg attacks. I should say, I think that that

457
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 1: is something that should be in his arsenal, but I

458
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 1: wouldn't bank on that as being the best one. I

459
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 1: actually feel like getting to the body lock and the

460
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 1: clinch is something he's gonna want to be able to do.

461
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,360
Speaker 1: I think under hooking, getting one underhook, turning and then

462
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,360
Speaker 1: forcing the kind of clinch and then using any kind

463
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 1: of trips and turns from there. I actually feel like

464
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 1: that would be off balancing if he's off balance, but

465
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 1: it has to worry about that first before he can

466
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 1: get offense off rather than trying to have like a

467
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 1: standard kind of kickboxing clinch between two guys, and you

468
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 1: got to get him off of his balance. Think about

469
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: this when you watch Podata. How often does he lose

470
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 1: his balance striking? And obviously if you get hit, you

471
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 1: lose your balance. But I'm saying what he's dealing his

472
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: balance is always right underneath him. He never gets too

473
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,479
Speaker 1: far over, he never leans too far over. He always

474
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 1: has his balance, and that is obviously years of dedicated

475
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: work on. When you watch it, people think that that's

476
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 1: just an obvious thing. Oh he's just standing up right. No, no, no, no.

477
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: You have to learn how to balance through your strikes,

478
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 1: through punching, through evasion, through turning, through pivoting. It is

479
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: not so easy. It is definitely not so obvious. He's

480
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 1: got it down pat. You got to take that away.

481
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 3: Sure, well, he's also good down pat, which is somewhat

482
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 3: similar to that. His emotional state, his poise at all times,

483
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 3: I mean to be able to keep his head in

484
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 3: a fight. He was clearly down on, was nearly knocked

485
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 3: out in the first round, had been kind of controlled

486
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: on the ground for part of that, but still was

487
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 3: in it and chipping away. But like Luke, you look

488
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 3: at his demeanor, it's certainly scary. If you watch this

489
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 3: celebration of Adasania, which was just a scary look into

490
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 3: the camera and doing nothing. But did you see the

491
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: countdown episode by any chance ahead of this one that

492
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,199
Speaker 3: the UFC put out? I did, yes, So they played

493
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: so a lot of times they do. They'll play you

494
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 3: back the fight that just happened, but they'll have the

495
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 3: microphones or they'll have more info on the interaction. Did

496
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 3: you see at the start of round five when Poeton's corner,

497
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 3: which of course is for Nellie Filly Senior and Glover's chera.

498
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 3: You know, they were trying to fire him up, give

499
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 3: him that Leon Edwards type before round five, you know

500
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 3: speech where you have five minutes to be a champion,

501
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 3: you got to go for all that. When they looked

502
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 3: across from each other, is he in poeton Padeta voice?

503
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 3: Something in the sub title that UFC had translated was

504
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 3: I'm ready to die. That's the exact statement more or

505
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: less that Adasania gave to Gastolm at the start of

506
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 3: round five. And let's not forget what UFC two thirty

507
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: six was. It was busy winning the interim title in

508
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 3: an all time great fight, but that we had questions.

509
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 3: We didn't know if he could dig in backbone wise

510
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 3: and go in there. And that was such a monster

511
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 3: moment for his rise, to stand in there and know

512
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: for for the back of his mind he could go

513
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 3: to war with anyone if he has to. Dude, Poton

514
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 3: did that to him and then one hundred and twenty

515
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 3: seconds later put on accumulation.

516
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: And stopped him.

517
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 3: You are not deep, You're like, this is This dude's

518
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: an mfort This dude, it really is. For all those

519
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 3: times we use these corny analogies of Boss at the

520
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: end of the video game and Boogeyman and all this

521
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 3: this is the ultimate Boogieman. I loved the challenge that

522
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 3: Israel out of Sonya and coach Eugene Barriman and company

523
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 3: are up against because it's not just designed this plan

524
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: to try to get off rhythm a guy who never

525
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 3: gets off rhythm mentally and physically in the way he

526
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 3: carries himself. Look, they're gonna have to They might have

527
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: to do something extreme to get this guy because the

528
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 3: same equation that's been there for three fights is still

529
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: live for Saturday, even with at Asnia as the betting favorite.

530
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 3: If you let Poeton hang around, you may have issues late.

531
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: Do they have to do something dramatic to prevent that?

532
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 3: Do they have to go in with the mindset that

533
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna walk this guy down and stop him. What

534
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 3: the hell do they have to do?

535
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: I think you try to walk a guy like that

536
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: down too much. It's gonna be but you can't try

537
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: to point fight him here. No, you can't try to

538
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: point fight him. I really think you got to mix

539
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: it up with him. In terms of the levels, I

540
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: think you need to have like a first couple of

541
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: rounds where you're constantly changing things, constantly putting pressure on him,

542
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: changing distances, changing elevation, changing looks. And that's hard to

543
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: do against the guy who's also not gonna just sit

544
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: there and look at you. He's gonna walk you down,

545
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: Which is why I think the clinch scenario, by the

546
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: way you go back to the I bring up the

547
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: body lock so repetitively because Bruno Silva was able to

548
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: find that position very easily. You know, certainly this version

549
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: of Potata won't be that one, and I don't know

550
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: how easily that come. But I feel like a guy

551
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: like is he can take advantage of. You have to

552
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: take that guy in that scenario and you have to

553
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: make him uncomfortable. I really believe BC there is gonna

554
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: be some sticking in moving. You can't just not I'm

555
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: gonna just march him down like this the whole time

556
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: that does the resci before a knockout. I do think

557
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: they'll be sticking and moving, But I think there's gonna

558
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: be better parts of like forced clinches, force smothering pins,

559
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: turns that kind of a thing, and then from there,

560
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: I want to see takedown attempts. I want to see

561
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: level changes. I want to see bodylock trips. Something I

562
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: want to go for his back jump on his back. Dude, Seriously,

563
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: if you got underneath an underhook and you had a

564
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: let's say you or even hit a slide by or whatever,

565
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: and you got underneath and then you're standing behind him

566
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: on his back, fuck the takedown. Take his back, Take

567
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 1: his back like you do. Do you really think is

568
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: his rear naked choke defense is as ironclad as I is.

569
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: He's like, it's not. It's obviously defense versus offense, not

570
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: defense versus defense. But you know what I'm saying, Like

571
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: he's not nearly a study. Do you have to find

572
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: put him in a position that no other MMA fighter

573
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: has really put him in a position for, take his back,

574
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: that kind of thing, make him second guess, Like those

575
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: kinds of things achieve new positions. I think those kinds

576
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: of things in conjunction with some stick and move is

577
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: a winning game plan when.

578
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 3: You look at the great career of Izzy, which, as

579
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: we said, whether he loses this one with that ultimately

580
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 3: changed some level of his legacy that is still in progress,

581
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 3: of course, but what he's accomplished already is like first

582
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: ballot Hall of Fame stuff. And I mean, was he

583
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: fourteen and two in the UFC with cleaned out an

584
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 3: entire division of big names, you know, be a lot

585
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 3: of these guys twice. But is this equally the biggest,

586
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 3: most important, and toughest fight of Izzy's life being in

587
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: all of the above.

588
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is. It's the toughest fight, it's the

589
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: toughest opponent. It's stylistically a terrible matchup, or not terrible,

590
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: but a very difficult one. Yeah. Because the thing is,

591
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: I've said this before, all of the things that Izzy

592
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: did to the division, where granted is he had to

593
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: go through a much tougher run to get to the

594
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: title than Patta, but the point being is he had

595
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: that kickboxing advantage over them, plus you know, really good footwork,

596
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: really good movement, good good enough and then eventually very

597
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: good takedown defense. That was what he did to his contemporaries.

598
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: In a similar way, that's what Padata did to Izzy

599
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: in their first MMA fight. For the most part, he

600
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: was able to stop three or four takedowns. There was

601
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: the one the third round where he wasn't able to

602
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: but fair enough he was, and the kickboxing advantage in

603
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: that particular case then goes to Padata. Right, he was

604
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: able to strike and land more on Izzy than the opposite.

605
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: He was able to obviously shut down things with the calfkicks.

606
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: So what do you have to do to beat Patata?

607
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 1: You have to You can't get away from who you

608
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: are is he is at his hardest striker. You have

609
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: to be that. But you can't fight Padata the way

610
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: you fought the rest of that division.

611
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 3: Or the way that you fought him three times, because he.

612
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: Can't do it.

613
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 3: It's it's interesting. There's some parallels, of course to what

614
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 3: Usman just had against Edwards, but this is much different

615
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 3: and a much unique ivalry all onto the same. Any

616
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 3: idea in Miami who though back, well, that won't matter.

617
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: I mean it's probably the Brazilian, but but I is

618
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: he's more popular, so it's hard to say.

619
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 3: Any other breakdowns on this, that's anything you want to

620
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: say about.

621
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: I think we have a couple more stats we can

622
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: show on the screen here if we can. Let me

623
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: just see if Mikey pull up these strikes by target,

624
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: if you don't mind. I want to see that significant

625
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: strikes by target. I think we have that. Here we go.

626
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at that forty point nearly identical.

627
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: Look at that. That is so interesting. This is what

628
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: I mean. They're they're you know what's funny, man, they're

629
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: they're they're not like identical strikers in any capacity, but

630
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of the same i'll say, striking sensibilities. Right.

631
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: They like to target similar things, they like to work

632
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: from in many cases, similar ranges. Man, you've got to

633
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 1: mix this up. You got to mix this up. If

634
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: you're just gonna do the same, you know, relatively kinds

635
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: of things that the opponent does. He's just slightly better

636
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: at it. And he's obviously got I will say this,

637
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: the power differential is very significant. Here you go. Strikes

638
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: from position again, look at this distance the clinch. That's

639
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: the big one for me. Remember there were times in

640
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: the clinch where Izzy was trying to neutralize that position,

641
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: so he was not very offensively minded there, and that

642
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: gave Patta a little bit of an opening to land

643
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: some good knees to the body and some other things. Wonder,

644
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: how is he's gonna handle that. And then on the

645
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: ground is he had some decent you know, a little

646
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: bit of ground and pound in a third round, not

647
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: a ton, but he had I think nearly four minutes

648
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: of control time. So between the two he clearly won

649
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: the round. Boy, I want to see that number on

650
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: the bottom. If you're an Izzy fan, you need to

651
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: see that number on the bottom dramatically go up. And

652
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: then here we have significant strike totals. Yet look, look

653
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: not very far apart man total strikes won forty a

654
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: little bit more and Putata's favor obviously is he had

655
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: much more control time. I think he needs to change.

656
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing you asked him. He have to do

657
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: something boldly different. No, but he has to have a

658
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: stat line that looks more like a wrestler's stat line

659
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: in order to win this fight.

660
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: I wonder, though, like you know, if you're pa data,

661
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: you know that you, by attacking the legs, you know,

662
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: only slowed down Atosania and set them up for a finish.

663
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: You actually injured him in that regard. I wonder, and

664
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: I already know. I mean, is Potato willing to give

665
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: up some early rounds as long as he can focus

666
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: on slowing down those wheels, taking a little bit of

667
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: the tread off. Yeah, I believe that's what he's ultimately

668
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: going to do. Luke. Finally, because the mental side of

669
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: it does play into this. You can only glean so

670
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: much from the interviews as he did, which was back

671
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: when this fight was analynced. He did that press conference

672
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: of his own in Perth for m A journalists, but

673
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: he hasn't done the big sit downs. We'll see what

674
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: comes out of this week. Is there any chance Predata

675
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: is just in his head?

676
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean, how could he not be? Dude? How could

677
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: he not be? How could he not be? How can

678
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: you fight a guy three fing times and get close

679
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: to winning at least two of those times, and potentially

680
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: in his mind all three and then you get viciously

681
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: ko twice. You know he has to be. He has

682
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: to be. But like, here's the thing, man like to me,

683
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: when people are like, oh, is an opponent in his

684
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 1: so and so's head? To me, the answer is almost

685
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: always going to be yes. The question is how he

686
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: manages that?

687
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: How do you use that? I think it is his case.

688
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: I'm worried about him, you know, falling apart mentally, but

689
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a big task. I'm putting pressure on

690
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: Eugene here. Let's see what you got. Let's see what

691
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: you guys do.

692
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: Big test for Eugene Barman again, I think one of

693
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: the best game planners in all of MMA. But he's

694
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: got his work cut out for him.

695
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: Here. Shout out to team Glover Man to share. I'm

696
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: on there in Danburry, Connecticut.

697
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: That's a great pairing because their strengths are somewhat similar. Like,

698
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: obviously Glover can strike, he's got a good job and whatnot,

699
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: but it's all the other things that he can do.

700
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: And also, like Glover has such great experience, He's seen

701
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: so many different kinds of looks and so many different

702
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: kinds of opponents. It's hard to imagine who Patata could

703
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: get better for his development than Glover to share.

704
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I saw Glover was on

705
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: the Countdown show or remember it was embedded, and he

706
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: had this Cabo Wabo tequila T shirt Sammy Hagar's brand.

707
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: That's the most dad thing your neighbor Glover could have

708
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 3: down there and Dan Barry. But it's like that's so Lover,

709
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 3: like in his backyard with his shirt off, just grilling up.

710
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like you know van Halen

711
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: van Hagar playing on the stereo behind him. I can

712
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: imagine it. Look, let's get into this co main event's

713
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: Miami Bowl three zero five on fire here when Miami's on.

714
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: Jorge Masvidal steps in though as a big time underdog

715
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: against thirty six year old but red hot Gilbert Burns.

716
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: More red hot, not from the wins and losses, but

717
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: the performance in the streak He's on because it gave

718
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: Hamza CHAMAI have everything he can handle two fights ago

719
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: and came back earlier this year and just dismantled Neil

720
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: Magni in the first round in a way that re

721
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: established the threat and dominance that Gilbert Burns can have

722
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: on the ground, but also showed you Mazdal thirty eight

723
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: Gilbert thirty six. There is a difference in terms of

724
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: who's coming or who's going in the larger picture, who's fresher,

725
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: But we are putting Mazvidal in the corner when you

726
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: put dangerous people back against the wall. Luke right, you

727
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: saw what happened with Patrick Swayzee in Dirty Dancing, right,

728
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: and nobody on the corner once they tried that shit

729
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: on baby, and you saw what happened right there. In

730
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 3: all seriousness, Gilbert Burns the minus four seventy five betting favorite,

731
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: pretty substantial plus three eighty four Jorge Mazvidal, So Luke

732
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: both could crash the weltzerweight title party in a big

733
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: way with a monster performance. Is there anything you can

734
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: just say to dissuade the working theory from all of

735
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: us pundits fans of just saying like, I want to

736
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: see this fight. It will be fun, it will be action.

737
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: That Miami crowd is gonna go nuts. What else can

738
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: you say? This is an uphill, freaking stylistic battle for

739
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: this version of Horey Moswell. There's no other way to

740
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: frame that.

741
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: Luke Jorges well rounded. But he is thirty eight, as

742
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: you indicated, that's that's spin at one seventy.

743
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: That is just old.

744
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: There's just no other way to say it. It's just old. Now,

745
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: thirty six is not exactly young either. That's also I

746
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: would put in the old category. But to your point,

747
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: he's motivated, he's motivated, He just seems a lot fresher.

748
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: I do think he's got far less miles on him.

749
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: Despite the fact that he's also had a lengthy combat

750
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: sports career. But the reality is this, dude, you gotta

751
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: respect Jorgem Masmital. He has been well rounded for a

752
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: long time. That doesn't change. But I think Gilbert like

753
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: he just has that next level. I mean, think about

754
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: think about this for example, BC right, think about the

755
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: Demi and Maya Jorgemen Masmital fight. Horiam Masbudal did not

756
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: get his ass kicked, but he lost it pretty thoroughly,

757
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: right because why Because Demian Maya has just so much

758
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: better at jiu jitsu than just about anybody, even somebody

759
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: as well rounded and defensively capable as someone like Jorgey Maswuel.

760
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: Will guess what. Gilber Burns is a black belt world champion,

761
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like and has really worked

762
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: on his wrestling, and when he talked to us, it

763
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: sounded like he's been putting an extra work on his

764
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: ground to pound simply to facilitate his submission game.

765
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: Like.

766
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: The thing about this is, I think Jorgey has been

767
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: a student of the game a long time, but I

768
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: believe that Burns, starting a little bit later, took him

769
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: a while to get the gains he needed in his

770
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: development to get going. But I still I think he's

771
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: at a stage now where like it's really gelling together.

772
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: He looks to be in phenomenal physical condition. You're saying

773
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: it's an uphill climb. It's not that we don't think

774
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: Jorgey can win. He's a he's a crafty striker. But dude,

775
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: Gilbert is good everywhere, and he is excellent in many places.

776
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: And if you get Gilbert into a war, you could

777
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: have you could have big problems because he'll take big chances.

778
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: He's incredibly durable. Mozvedal did make that public statement coming

779
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: you know's on a three fight losing skitt he's thirty

780
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: eight that if I lose, I may step away. We

781
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: sat down with Gilbert Burns this week. I killed Cliff MMA,

782
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: and of course or sorry kill Cliff FC over there

783
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: and h is that tearfield. Of course we already teach that.

784
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: You can go to YouTube dot com Slash Morning Combat

785
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,479
Speaker 3: and check out the full chat with Gilbert. But here's

786
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 3: Durinho's thoughts on mos vital kind of teasing that that

787
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: door is open to maybe step away.

788
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: Believe he did an interview with MMA Junkie this week

789
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: or last where he said, you know what, if I lose,

790
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: I might be done. I wonder what you make of

791
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get with him on Saturday when.

792
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: The guys said that, I personally I will never said

793
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 4: going to a fight. If anything happens, I'm retiring because

794
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 4: I just don't think there's a good look. I heard

795
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 4: a couple of guys saying, ah, if all were retired

796
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: for the end, these guys always lose. So I'm not

797
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: going to be that guy that, oh if not, if

798
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 4: whatever happens happens. But first of all, me personally, I

799
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 4: don't like that look.

800
00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: He's saying.

801
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: If something has I'm retiring. So he's a way of

802
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: thinking about it, and I want to remind that on

803
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 4: the fight. But he's a danger. I think he's saying

804
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 4: that he's gonna throw everything on me. I just believe

805
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: he's gonna start hard. I had that conversation back and

806
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 4: forth with Henry. I say, I think he's gonna start

807
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 4: like crazy like he did with Tomorrow in the first fight.

808
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 4: You're gonna try to get me out of there on

809
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 4: the beginning, And then hear, yeah, I like it if

810
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 4: it comes like that. But I don't think because he

811
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 4: is fifty one, fights a lot, he's a veteran, a

812
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 4: lot of experience, but I don't see I see him

813
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 4: coming very aggressive.

814
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 3: So with that being said, if he lose, he retired, I.

815
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 4: Think he's gonna try everything on his power to beat me,

816
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 4: and then I'm more than ever.

817
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 3: And I still think.

818
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: I still think when Leo b Kmarrow, there was extra

819
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 4: motivation to to misdou to beat me and try to

820
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 4: get it tile shot.

821
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: And I like that.

822
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: I like the extra motivator. Best minds without that's the

823
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 4: one that I want to face.

824
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: Do you know why this is the best and most

825
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 3: dangerous version even at thirty six of Gilbert Burns, that

826
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: that maturity, like he's learned from the loss to Kamara,

827
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: when he when he fought for the title, when he

828
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 3: did drop the champion but couldn't finish him off. He

829
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: learned from a lot of these and we talked to

830
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: him look at length in that interview about his commitment

831
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: now to nutrition and all these things, like he just

832
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: putting it all together. I like the way you look

833
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: at that. He's not gonna he's not gonna count mas

834
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 3: of it all out. He knows how dangerous he is,

835
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: but he's also thinking in the back of his head

836
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: maybe maybe maybe Jorge doesn't want to be there. You know.

837
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: I think Gilbert's goal in this fight. I think he's

838
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: gonna do like he did in the Magni fight. I

839
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: think that was a bit The Magni fight may end

840
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: up being a bit of a good thing for or

841
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: for Gilbert, not that it I think he wanted bigger

842
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: fights right away, but in the sense of, you know,

843
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: it was I respect Neil Magni, but for Gilbert that

844
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: was easy work. That's that's just what it was. And

845
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: I think he's really looking to get back to his

846
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: ground game. It was something he kind of focused on

847
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: with us, but changing things up a little bit. Here's

848
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: what I think he's gonna do. This is my like

849
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: semi official prediction, because obviously these things are very difficult,

850
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: but I think there's going to be some striking on

851
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: the feet, but in general, he's going to be looking

852
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: to wrestle, take top position, leg rides, and I think

853
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: that he realizes you've got to take some of that

854
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: steam out of Joorgey because he is going to come hard,

855
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: knowing this could be his last big opportunity. But I

856
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: also think he believes he can find the spot where

857
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: he's ready to retire in the middle of the fight,

858
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: and he's going to try and push him to a

859
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: spot where he's Comfortablehere, he puts Jorge in a comfortable

860
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: spot to basically surrender or just get beaten up too bad.

861
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: I think he's going to look for if you're ready

862
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: to retire, I'm happy to I'm.

863
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: Gonna give you that chance. And he knows he'll be dangerous,

864
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: but he knows that there'll be incredibly big counter opportunities

865
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: there if you have a tired or wounded Jorge who's

866
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: got the home crowd pushing him, and he's going to

867
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: go for it because what else does he have. This

868
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: is his last chance to try to get Leon in

869
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 3: their first title. But like he'll be, he'll be more

870
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: desperate than dangerous there. That's what Burns needs to create,

871
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: that moment to do what he's trying to do, which

872
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: is cut Colby Covington in line for the title.

873
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was just gonna say I think that, Yeah,

874
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: I don't have much of that. You said a better

875
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: than I could. I just really believe you got to

876
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: be careful with Jorgete because he is so defensively sound.

877
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he got knocked out by Kamarto,

878
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: but the longevity of his record speaks to the fact

879
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: that he does have a lot of ability in a

880
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: lot of different areas and he can be very defensively sound.

881
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: So if Gilbert's going to get those positions made, he's

882
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: got to make them count, really, really make them count,

883
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: because yeah, you can get the riding time, but that's

884
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: really not enough against the dangerous, aggressive, potentially forward charging God.

885
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: We know he likes to do what's called drop shifts

886
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: and stan switches through combination, and remember how he knocked

887
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: out Till for example, a drop shift is a great

888
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: example there he will blitz on you. So you really

889
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: really got to be careful. But Gilbert Scott so many skills.

890
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make him count.

891
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: Mazvidol, as we remember, he was twenty nineteen Surprise Fighter

892
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: of the Year. He won all three fights that year,

893
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 3: all three by big time knockout. He's only fought three

894
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 3: times once per year in the three years since then,

895
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: all pay per view main events, twice against Usman, won

896
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 3: against Covington, but came up empty across all three as

897
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 3: we look back at the recent run which had that

898
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 3: huge renaissance and turnaround and then a lot of money,

899
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: a lot of fame, and some big opportunities that came

900
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 3: up empty. So when we talk about Jorge Mosvidal's mindset

901
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: in his side of it, obviously that home crowd could

902
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: potentially be a firecracker to lift him. But Luke, our

903
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: colleague at CBS Sports, Shaquille Massouri, who populates that YouTube

904
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 3: channel shaq MMA on the regular, Hey, he caught up

905
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: with Game Bread to talk about the second of those

906
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 3: three straight defeats. It was against kamaraw Uswan. It was

907
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: UFC two sixty one, twenty twenty one, and Luke, that

908
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 3: was that devastating second round one punch ko. You had

909
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: to believe there was a receipt mentally there for Masvidal

910
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: coming off of that hill. Here's what he had to

911
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: go through to get back to this point.

912
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 5: It just showed I gained tremendous amount of weight. There

913
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 5: was numerous things going on in my life that they

914
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 5: just were toxic in for an athlete. They weren't helpful,

915
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 5: they were actually detrimental to a certain extent. So I

916
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 5: feel like I cut a lot of that out in

917
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 5: the last eight nine months, and you know, I'm in

918
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 5: a much better place, you know, So now all I

919
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 5: gotta do is is just let it show that that's

920
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 5: the amazing thing about fighting. If what I'm talking about

921
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 5: is so true and it's right, then it'll show on

922
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 5: April eighth and the world of the fatue what I've

923
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 5: been working on, you know, that's what I love, that

924
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 5: most instant gratification.

925
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: You know, is it safe to say that that's what's

926
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: motivating the most right now? Just being able to sort

927
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: of bring all that work to fruition.

928
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 5: Oh, definitely. Long Behold the fight with Gilbert got signed,

929
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 5: I was already preparing for somebody who and what I

930
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 5: didn't know, but I was just preparing getting myself in shape.

931
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 5: And when a Gilbert fight came already, it was like

932
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 5: the jet was already charged up with all the few

933
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 5: it was gonna need. You know, I did this camp.

934
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 5: It was one of my better camps out of my

935
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 5: whole career. I've always been a guy that's very critical

936
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 5: of myself. You know, how many times did I get

937
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 5: take that down today?

938
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: In practice?

939
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 5: How many times did I get taken down throughout the week.

940
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 5: How many body shots that I land all these things,

941
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 5: And I truly feel that this has been one of

942
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 5: my better training camps period on a physical level, on

943
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 5: the technical level. So now to just go out and

944
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 5: have fun, forget about everything, just blank my mind out

945
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 5: and do what I wanted to do.

946
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: So I don't think it's wrong to believe in what

947
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: he's saying and suggests that some of the fame of

948
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: the last three years and his I mean, the twenty

949
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 3: nineteen thing was such a freaking rocket ship to fame

950
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: and crossover and brands and all this ridiculousness and I'm

951
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 3: sure movies. I mean, it was like he was the thing.

952
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: I understand his slide since then, He's still an aging

953
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: fight in his late thirties. How close though, when you

954
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: consider what the crowd will bring to him, what that

955
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: motivation is that if he wins US, he might be

956
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: able to get Leon Edwards in a fight. How much

957
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: will that booy him? And how close to producing a

958
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen version of Masvidal for one last big run air.

959
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: I don't buy it. I mean, it's certainly possible. You

960
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: don't want to write off a guy like Orgey clever.

961
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: It's been clever for a long time. But I believe

962
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: that he's I believe what he said to Shack, that

963
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: he's cleaned up a lot of things and really gotten

964
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: back to a better routine, better life habits. You are

965
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: the sum total of your habits in many ways. So

966
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: I do I do take him seriously. I just I

967
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: just think it's too little, too late. I mean, with

968
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: the physical decline, with the miles, and then again I

969
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: want to go back to it. Dude, Gilbert Burns is

970
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: not just motivated. He is highly skilled, highly highly skilled

971
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: athlete who yes, all the motivation and things like that

972
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: are are in play, doesn't have as many miles, is

973
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: significantly better in jiu jitsu, probably better than overall wrestling,

974
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: and on the feet. I might give Jorge a bit

975
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: of an edge, and certainly in the power, I give

976
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: him an edge. But I think speed, we haven't talked

977
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: about the speed. Even at thirty six years old. I

978
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: think Gilbert's going to be quicker. They're both formerly one

979
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: to fifty five guys who are fighting at one to seventy.

980
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: But I think Gilbert's slightly smaller in a good way

981
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: for his speed. It's just it's just it seems probably

982
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: too little too.

983
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 3: You have to hurt Gilbert earlier, you'd have to lure

984
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 3: him into battle. But even in that, he.

985
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: Is so dangerous.

986
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: So I want to want to be fireworks at the very.

987
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: Least there's going to be fo oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

988
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: well there might not be. I mean, maybe Gilbert's taking

989
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: an approach to say I want to take all I

990
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: want to just you know, let all the air out

991
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: of the three or five balloon. But I think the

992
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: other component here is for when when thinking about out

993
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: Gilbert is I forgot the fuck I was gonna say.

994
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: I just wonder sure it was really good, It was

995
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: really good for a while. I just I gotta pee

996
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: really bad. You can think about it for a while.

997
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: If I'm kidding, I do have to.

998
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: I forgot what I was going to say.

999
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 3: All right, well, Luke, let's continue on down this UFC

1000
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: two eighty seven card and continue our preview. Bantamweight the

1001
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 3: best division, the deepest at the moment, and how about

1002
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: this for a crossroads matchup of thirty five year old

1003
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: Rob font one year away, two defeats most recently, but

1004
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: trying to maintain position as one of the toughest outs

1005
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 3: in the midst of this top ten at bantamweight and

1006
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 3: a riser in Adrian Yanes, who we would love to

1007
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 3: put an MK bomber jacket around his shoulders. But Luke,

1008
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: he's riding a seven fight win streak five and zero

1009
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: in the UFC, showing next level striking. The odds are

1010
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: showing though, that this has the potential to be a

1011
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 3: very good fight. Minus one ninety for Janes, plus one

1012
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: fifty five for Rob Font. Who's coming, Who's going, That's

1013
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: a big part of this. But Yanes seems to have

1014
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: that that that sneaky next level potential that maybe this

1015
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: is the first of many fights against the super elite

1016
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: in this division. We'll find out on some.

1017
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: Toughest fight he's had to date, no doubt about it.

1018
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: A guy who's got some of the best boxing in

1019
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: the division, some of the better boxing in the UFC,

1020
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: I would argue, and he's taken on another guy who's

1021
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: got a phenomenal jab who's got much better experience, and

1022
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: let's be real, Rob Font has fought much better guys

1023
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: now He's come up short against a lot of the

1024
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: really really, really really good ones. The elite ones, but

1025
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: he has definitely faced really really tough guys who can

1026
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: punch harder punching combination, who are durable, who can fight

1027
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: at different ranges, who can sometimes fight at angles. You know,

1028
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: I think Rob has seen a lot of the different

1029
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: things that Adrian is gonna be able to throw at him.

1030
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: But I also believe, you know, Font has taken a

1031
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: lot of damage. Yeah, you know, you can't get away

1032
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: from that. He's taken a lot of damage. I do

1033
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: think his jab is excellent, but I just believe after

1034
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: there might be an initial period where janez Janya excuse

1035
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: me as confused, but I think by round two, mid

1036
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: round two, even earlier, it's gonna be everything's gonna switch.

1037
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: And I just feel like his adjustments, his ability to

1038
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: make reads, and also his I think he's just got

1039
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: a little bit more of offensive willingness in certain ways

1040
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: that Rob Font hasn't had recently. So it's a tough fight.

1041
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: Certainly Rob can win it. I'm a big believer in

1042
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: Rob Font's skills and again, one of the better.

1043
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: Job Well, he's gonna be hungry. Let's not forget that

1044
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 3: it took a year off, year off, no question about that.

1045
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 3: The last time we saw Yanaz lose Luke, that was

1046
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: Miles John's by split decision in twenty eighteen under the

1047
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 3: LFA banner. So he's on a credible run here. But

1048
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 3: like you said that, what's his best win in the UFC,

1049
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: Like Davey Grant, I mean, it's a good as win.

1050
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: These are these five victories here Luke, four of them

1051
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: by knockout, by the way the split decision went over,

1052
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 3: Davey Grant. So Yana's has been impressive, and he also

1053
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 3: caught up with Shaq MMA Luke on exactly what we've

1054
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: talked about about him, the evolution of his boxing game

1055
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: and how he's adapted that to look like a you know,

1056
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 3: two point zero MMA striker and a one to watch

1057
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: in this division. Let's hear from him.

1058
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 6: If you look at the components that are really successful

1059
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 6: for uh, for boxers in MMA, it's never that they're

1060
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 6: never on the center line. If you're on the center line, man,

1061
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 6: at a lot of times, man, you're you're about to

1062
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 6: get fucked up. And even that even comes in with

1063
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 6: the head movie. Your your feet stays still on the

1064
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 6: center line, you move your head, uh almost prime example.

1065
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 6: Prime example is whenever Leon Leon Edwards and uh kamar

1066
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 6: Usman uh in that in that fifth round when we

1067
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 6: hit that head kick knockout, like he was on the

1068
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 6: center line, he wasn't really using his footwork, Yes he had. Again,

1069
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 6: everybody thinks of boxing and just thinks of their hands, Like,

1070
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 6: it's not just the hands. Is it's foot placement, putting

1071
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 6: yourself in different angles, cutting an angle, moving around. It's

1072
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 6: not just it's not just your hands or slipping and

1073
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 6: moving your head. You know, it's not just that like that,

1074
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 6: that's what everybody takes and like takes some grabs from

1075
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 6: like they're like, oh man, he has great hands, he

1076
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 6: has great boxing. Nope, that's not that's not it. Just

1077
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 6: because you have great you can punch really hard and

1078
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 6: you can put up combinations, doesn't mean you have great boxing.

1079
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 6: There's so many things that that you can take out

1080
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 6: of the boxing element. Like to me, the footwork is

1081
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 6: most is one of the most important because you got

1082
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 6: to be able to get in, get out, not get hit,

1083
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 6: and you know, then you can start implementing your head moving,

1084
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 6: then you can start implementing the hands, and then you

1085
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 6: can start implementing counters and everything else too.

1086
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, and this is unique and one to watch.

1087
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: Luc I know you've had a lot of chats with

1088
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: him as well. Shout out to Shaq MMA. You can

1089
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 3: check out that full interview on his channel. Luke to

1090
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: close on this matchup, it is boxer versus boxer in theory,

1091
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 3: what level will ground fighting play? What role? Excuse me

1092
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: in this fight?

1093
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a good question, I don't think, probably not

1094
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: a substantive one. Maybe Rob font might go that direction

1095
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: to switch things up a little bit, even though again

1096
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: great job, he's got good boxing himself. I could see

1097
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: him maybe, you know, changing things up a little bit,

1098
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: taking the year off to really work on a different

1099
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: kind of approach to the fight. That to me seems

1100
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: like an interesting one and one that I hope, for

1101
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: Adrian Yez's sake he is ready for. But I don't

1102
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: think it will come from Adrian. I mean that's to

1103
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: him about three weeks ago, maybe a month ago, and

1104
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: he was saying that he's, you know, for all the

1105
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: boxing that he loves and for all the boxing that

1106
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: he does. He hired a Muay Thai coach, which he's

1107
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: had now for about a year, just to round out

1108
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: the other pieces of his MMA striking game, So not

1109
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: getting away from the boxing, just adding more tools than

1110
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: becoming more fluid with it. And because of his and

1111
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: again here's another thing, dude. You know, when you're in

1112
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: your twenties, even like your mid to late twenties, if

1113
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: you're really working as hard as these guys say they are,

1114
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: you're you will see massive changes fight over fight That

1115
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: becomes less true in their thirties, except for tactical changes,

1116
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: but between the tactical upside and between some of the

1117
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: more developmental upside for a guy in his mid to

1118
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: late twenties, and in Adrian Yanyez, I just feel like

1119
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of tools to potentially show here

1120
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: on Saturday.

1121
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 3: And when you talk about the rankings in this great

1122
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 3: division right now, Adrian Yanya's number twelve. Looking to get

1123
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: a ticket to the party here. Rob Font number six,

1124
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 3: the losses of course to Cheeto Vera and Jose Aldo

1125
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: of late, but he had that depressive four fight win

1126
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: streak before that to set it up. Good matchmaking, very

1127
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: good placement here on this pay per view card. Look

1128
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 3: to round out the pay per view portion of two

1129
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: eighty seven welterweights, Kevin Holland. Our friends at Caesars have

1130
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: him a minus two four five favorite against the KG

1131
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 3: veteran Santiago Ponzinibio plus two h five. But Luke, Kevin

1132
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: Holland is always about it. But he's thirty years old now,

1133
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: he's in a new division, and he did lose twice

1134
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: in the span of like sixty days to close out

1135
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: the year. The first round dominant loss to Hamzat Chimaiyev

1136
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 3: in one of the weirdest circumstances we've ever seen play

1137
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: out at two seventy nine. And then the stoppage in

1138
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: the fourth round by TKO against Stephen Thompson. It was

1139
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 3: a corner stoppage, Luke, is it must win or is

1140
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 3: this just who Kevin Holland is like? He'll always take

1141
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: the hardest or whatever opportunity he can get, and sometimes

1142
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: he'll win, sometimes he'll lose. Are we gonna ever see

1143
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 3: him put together consistency at this level?

1144
00:49:54,440 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: Hope? Hope. I think he's capable of it. He he

1145
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: has pop at well hit pop at one eighty five,

1146
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: he's got pop at one seventy. He's got a black

1147
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: belt under Travis Luter. I think the one's seventy pounds

1148
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: weight class is much better for him than one to

1149
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: eighty five. He now has experience against a lot of

1150
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: top guys. You know, is he going to be a champion?

1151
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't know it. I wouldn't

1152
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: favor those odds. But you know, can he be more

1153
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: than what he has been? Do you have reason to

1154
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: believe that there is something inside of him and given

1155
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: what he has shown in his abilities to be something

1156
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: kind of special? Yes, I do think you can. I

1157
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: think you can say that. The question though, is like,

1158
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: you know, he briefly retired whatever, And I know people

1159
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: think that those are like insincere, and yeah they are,

1160
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: I hear he is fighting again, but they often reflect

1161
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: sometimes just temporary frustrations at a fighter experiences at certain

1162
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: stages of their career. And then sometimes it kind of

1163
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: telegraphs like, yeah, you know, I kind of will still

1164
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: do it. I can do it, okay, but I might

1165
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: have my heart elsewhere. I don't know what the answer

1166
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: is for Kevin. I guess we'll see against Ponzinibbio, but

1167
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: it's a good matchup for him. I think it's a

1168
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: very winnable match. I just would like to see him

1169
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: apply a little bit more oomph and even a little

1170
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: bit more science to it. He kind of has an

1171
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: approach where like, yeah, I'll win under my terms, but

1172
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't mind losing under my terms. I would like

1173
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: him to be a little bit more open to the

1174
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: idea of changing things around to create better conditions for winning.

1175
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: So we'll see.

1176
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: So it'd be a solid win here against the always

1177
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 3: dangerous Argentine dagger, who of course fights out of Brazil.

1178
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 3: But Luke for Ponzinibbio thirty six years old, two and

1179
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 3: three sents his comeback when he missed two years due

1180
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: to that leg injury when he came back in January

1181
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. Some good, some bad, But this would

1182
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 3: be a pretty big win for him at this point

1183
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: in his career. I like the stakes, I like the

1184
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 3: action potential they should be.

1185
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: They're still putting him in relevant fights, They're still putting

1186
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: him in important contests. This is a main card fight, hello,

1187
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: on a big pay per view, Like he's still doing

1188
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: relevant things. But I feel like if he doesn't win

1189
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 1: this one, the amount of like relevancy he'll occupy will diminished.

1190
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 3: Pretty singar without question to close out that pay per

1191
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: view card and kicking it off. Luke, we've debated this

1192
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 3: week in different and you'll see it on pregame preview,

1193
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 3: the whole idea of eighteen year old Rabuel Rosas Junior,

1194
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: the Bandam Wade, who some people are questioning could he

1195
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: even cut down even lower based on where he's been

1196
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 3: at the different weight check stops this week.

1197
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: The thing is that you know by twenty one he'll

1198
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 1: be a bigger dude. So it's like, I don't really

1199
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: believe that that's a could he make one twenty five now? Maybe,

1200
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: but that's not the future for him.

1201
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: This would be a second UFC fight. We've debated the

1202
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 3: whole idea of someone this young being in the spot,

1203
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 3: but Luke, it's happening. He's getting a potential push. Eight

1204
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 3: in one Christian Rodriguez sits across from him. He has

1205
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 3: split Rodriguez his two UFC fights to date after winning

1206
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 3: on the Contender series, like Rosas to get the attention

1207
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 3: of the promotion. Style wise, this matchup, what are we

1208
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 3: looking for? I mean, Rosas has that incredible strength and

1209
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 3: great technique in terms of grappling. He can be a

1210
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: big submission threat. What do you want to see out

1211
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 3: of him in this fight?

1212
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a little bit more. And when I say

1213
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: listen to the words, I'm saying a little bit more patience.

1214
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: So one of the things you saw in his Contender

1215
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: series fight and even his last one. To an extent,

1216
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: he's very good at rushing to put his opponents in

1217
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: bad position. But then sometimes like his finishing from the

1218
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: back is just not all that dynamic. It takes them

1219
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: a long time to get there. And if you have

1220
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: good back, if your ability to achieve the back is strong,

1221
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: which it is, that's great, but it's a very different

1222
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: skill to achieve and then finish from the back. To me,

1223
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: it looks like the finishing part needs some polish, which

1224
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: is understandable. Although he's eighteen, I don't expect him to

1225
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: be that great. Although it's already pretty good, I would

1226
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: like to see him slow it down, add some ground

1227
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 1: and pound. A lot of these guys who come from

1228
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu, and I realize he is an MMA guy first,

1229
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is when you're still in your

1230
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: early to mid stage or jiu jitsu development and you

1231
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: go to MMA, I just see a lot of guys

1232
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: try to use pure jiu jitsu ideas on them, and

1233
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: what I want to see is just a little bit

1234
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: more ground and pound. Take your time, achieve the position,

1235
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 1: you know, make them suffer, really hurt them, and then

1236
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: go for the finish. Set it up in a calculated,

1237
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: step by step way. This is an opponent he should

1238
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: be able to do that against, and that to me

1239
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: are the kinds of things he needs to usher in

1240
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: proper development.

1241
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lucas like hel Rosas, take it slow right as

1242
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 3: long is that not? It'll work itself out right. All

1243
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: we need is a little page.

1244
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: Oh Guns n' roses, dude, I didn't. I never liked

1245
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: that song. I saw them play it live. They did

1246
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: a pretty good job. I was more. I was never

1247
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: a huge GNR guy.

1248
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you missed out that. Remember that double live that

1249
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 3: came out about twenty years ago with that version of

1250
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 3: Rocket Queen at the end? Oh man, dude, I've done

1251
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 3: a lot of things to that song. You know. Wow,

1252
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 3: that was pretty disgusting. Luke, that's your pay per view

1253
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: main card. A few tasty dishes on the ESPN preliminaries

1254
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 3: Kelvin Gastallum, Chris Curtis at middleweight. We're gonna chime in

1255
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 3: later under okay, bed about how we think this goes down.

1256
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 3: But for Kevin Kelvin Gastallum, you know, I'm never gonna

1257
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 3: stop believing Luke Journey was right on this one. He

1258
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: is thirty one years old. I don't want to tell

1259
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 3: you his record over the last you know, six or seven.

1260
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 3: Should win against Chris. Curtis needs to win against Chris Curtis.

1261
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 3: How do you frame this for ol Kelvin?

1262
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: Shit, man, it's not like Curtis is some bumb In fact,

1263
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 1: I think I like Curtis's chances here. I think Curtis

1264
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: is very good. But Kelvin is in a tough spot. Man.

1265
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: I really don't He changed teams and that was probably

1266
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: a decent idea. I don't know. His development seems to

1267
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: have been fucked up along the way. If I could

1268
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: just be honest with you, like I feel like I'd

1269
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 1: have to go and pay closer attention to his record

1270
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: to really kind of get a clear sense of it.

1271
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: But somewhere along the way he stopped progressing, and all

1272
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: of his peers, or most of his peers anyway, did not,

1273
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: And I don't really know what exactly to attribute that to.

1274
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was with a team that couldn't

1275
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: get it done.

1276
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: He was. I mean, he's come up close, he's looked

1277
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 3: good close.

1278
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: He's been a decent bridesmaid. You know.

1279
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 3: The inconsistency throughout his career, which certainly started on the

1280
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 3: scale at welterweight, he's never escaped that. There's a lot

1281
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 3: of highs and lows, you know, and I think he

1282
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 3: puts in the effort. I've seen him just a game

1283
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 3: plan in big fights like the Asanyo and figure out

1284
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 3: how to do big things. You've also seen him, you know,

1285
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 3: lose somewhat easily to Wideman down the stretch. I mean,

1286
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 3: we've seen some bad performances too. He's a minus one

1287
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 3: twenty five betting favorite Gasolum against the plus one oh

1288
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 3: five Chris Curtis Luke, who brings action, violence, a good

1289
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 3: story at thirty five, a workman, life spirit, and when

1290
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 3: you look at his most recent run outside of the

1291
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 3: decision lost to Jack Romanson, he's three and one in

1292
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 3: the UFC with some good wins. He just knocked out

1293
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 3: Laquin Buckley Luke. He took a decision from Rodolfo Vieira.

1294
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 3: He's shown us that he can be something here. I

1295
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 3: like the violence potential, but it's going to be interesting.

1296
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: I do like the violence potential. This is winnable for

1297
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: Kelvin Gasolm. This is not you know, this is a

1298
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: tough opponent, but you just look at this and you think, yeah,

1299
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: Kelvin could potentially win this one. But I would like

1300
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: to see him get back to his wrestling a little bit. Honestly,

1301
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: I think he needs to mix it up. Sure, I

1302
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: think you're just striking with a guy like Chris Curtis.

1303
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: That's problem for Kelvin. I think mixing it up might

1304
00:56:58,680 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: be a little bit better.

1305
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 3: For hims training him. Know you were mentioned, yeah he moved.

1306
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: To Arizona to shudo. I have to double check. I'm

1307
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: not sure. Obviously, Chris Curtis is an extreme tour so oh.

1308
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 3: Shout out to Eric Mixic, one of my favorite people

1309
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 3: in m A.

1310
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, all right, coach Eric.

1311
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 3: All right, Coach Luke. I want to talk quickly about

1312
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: Gerald Mehershard at middleweight against Joe pifer Be like Joe Piefer,

1313
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 3: is he He's coming, He's coming on right, coming.

1314
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: On guy out of Sean Brady's camp out there in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

1315
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: A lot of blue collar dudes out of there doing

1316
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: great work. It's a tough fight though, man like you're

1317
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: very confident in Pifer. I think he can win this level.

1318
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 3: Meer Shark's a good, good, good you.

1319
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: Know exactly, it's a good test to see exactly is

1320
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: Meershark gonna still be It's one of those guys who's

1321
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: a great test for up and comers. Or is Pifer

1322
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: destined for much bigger things. I guess we'll see.

1323
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: I bet you took a couple of ser sharks during

1324
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 3: this trip, you know what I mean.

1325
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: I had to throw out some underworlk wow.

1326
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 3: I wanted to remind you that Pifer won a decisions

1327
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 3: over Eric Anders to get to this point. So he

1328
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 3: beat you, boy, that's a that's a leveling up opportunity, Luke,

1329
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 3: and Dana loves him. Why does Dania love him again?

1330
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 3: Because he's Joe Pifer. He's got the inspirational backstories.

1331
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: That and you know, you know, he had a big

1332
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: win and contender series right knocked the guy out cold and.

1333
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 3: He's bout about it. And that's what the company wants.

1334
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: They want guys who go for it. He's that guy.

1335
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 3: Any other fights you want to mention. I mean, there

1336
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: was a time that they were comparing Cynthia Calvio to

1337
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: Ronda Rousey. And she's not lost four in a row, Luke,

1338
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 3: but she's going to open the early prelimbs opposite Lupita Godinez.

1339
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 3: I don't think you care about that.

1340
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: No, I'm still a little bit curious about the upside

1341
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: of Ignacio Baha Mundees.

1342
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, let the rhythm take you over, right, that's by

1343
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 3: La Moos, similar though it's similar.

1344
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: By Lamos versus Baha Mounds. Yeah, not that. I mean

1345
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: they got the letter B in there in multiple syllables.

1346
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 3: Where I come from, Luke, Is that where.

1347
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: They like crosses on fire? Yeah?

1348
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, But some of those that burn crosses, Luke,

1349
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 3: are the same that rage.

1350
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: Against the Machine told me that a long time ago.

1351
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 3: All right, I'm looking forward to that UFC two eighty

1352
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: seven on Saturday, Luke. I'm actually leaving for vacation tomorrow.

1353
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 3: I know you hate that, you know they hate that.

1354
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 3: We got my family be.

1355
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: Happy, but they got some good We got some good

1356
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: stuff planned for them. So You're gonna be well taken care.

1357
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 3: Of special guests. Some great content will fill in, But Luke,

1358
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 3: I set that up to say, Saturday, UFC two eighty seven,

1359
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 3: you will be providing instant reaction, that's right. Spoiler heavy though.

1360
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: Spoiler heavy, plenty of that. But I'll also be doing

1361
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: so can you believe this solo solo? Your boy is

1362
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: calling the Showtime Boxing prelims for the Sebastian fundor To card,

1363
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: and then after the fights, I'm doing a post fight

1364
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: live MMA show. I just want to point out here

1365
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: to all of the fucos in this industry, there's like

1366
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: three people on earth who could do that. You're looking

1367
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: at one.

1368
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:42,959
Speaker 3: Of them, one of one thousand. It's Luke Thomas, Missy, Yes,

1369
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 3: thank you, Luke. Topic form will bring us to a

1370
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: sneaky good boxing weekend. Luke. There's a lot of boxing

1371
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 3: cards that at least the hard cause care about. I

1372
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: want to find out today is how much you care?

1373
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: Luke.

1374
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 3: Let's go Showtime Championship Boxing this Saturday. Hey, this is

1375
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: a good one here. So here's the story. At one

1376
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty four, they're gonna be at the war

1377
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 3: Grounds in Carson, California. It was at Dignity Health Sports Park.

1378
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 3: So that gets you, That gets you excited. Sebastian Frondora

1379
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 3: is going to be in the main event. That gets

1380
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 3: you excited. But you know who's not excited, Luke and

1381
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 3: I talked to him this week. We're not gonna play

1382
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 3: sound right now, but you can check out the full

1383
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: interview YouTube dot com. Slash Morning Combat is happy, go Lucky,

1384
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 3: seb He's not that happy these days because I don't know,

1385
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 3: if you saw the reports that came out of Australia

1386
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 3: yesterday Jamel Charlow, it seems like he has some level

1387
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 3: of hand injury continuation.

1388
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not gonna fight Zoo.

1389
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 3: Tim Zoo told Fox Sports Australia that they're not gonna

1390
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 3: fight in June or July like originally. It might be

1391
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: like August September. So first of all, Tim Zoo, who

1392
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 3: has the mandatory shot, is looking to get another opponent

1393
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 3: in the interim. But Luke Sebastian Fundora feels like he

1394
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 3: has been the number one contender to this undisputed title

1395
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 3: since he beat Ericson Lubin to open last year in

1396
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 3: a Fight of the Year contender and all he's done

1397
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: since then was defend this interim WBC title whatever. You know,

1398
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 3: the title is not important, but this basically tells you

1399
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 3: he's ready to fight for the big one. He can't

1400
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 3: get it and frustrated, but you know who can get it.

1401
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: Brian Mendoza on Saturday, and this is an interesting matchup.

1402
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: Brian.

1403
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 3: We've seen Mendoza before in five I mean, I think

1404
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: he lost to one of the uh the guys we

1405
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 3: saw on the Caleb Plan undercard, the uncle and nephew.

1406
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 3: The Sanchez is right, I'm not sanch Belle Ramos. Luke, Yes,

1407
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 3: but what Mendoza has done since then is bounced back

1408
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 3: with two wins Luke, including a knockout a former unified

1409
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 3: champion Jason Rosario that sent Bona Nah into retirement. So, Luke,

1410
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 3: when I say Sebastian Frondora, you already say where and when?

1411
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 3: Because he makes great fights. He doesn't use his six

1412
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 3: foot six frame or reach. He gets inside and it's

1413
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 3: all volume, all gas, no breaks, and he'll take what

1414
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,439
Speaker 3: you give him. Mendoza can fight like that too. We're

1415
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 3: expecting at the war Gronds, probably another tasty dish Saturday

1416
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 3: night showtime. But how live do you think Mendoza is

1417
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 3: given the political surroundings. Frondor's frustrated, Luke. He feels like

1418
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 3: he's just going through the motions. He wants the big title.

1419
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, they got Sebastian Fundora as a

1420
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: minus twelve hundred favorite in Mendoza as plus six to fifty.

1421
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I don't buy that at all.

1422
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 3: That has to be an induced bets type of line, because.

1423
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: I don't get that. A dude, dude, Brian Mendoza is

1424
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: a hammer and he, as you mentioned, he sent Jason

1425
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: Rozzario into retirement. Go look at the fucking uppercut he

1426
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: hit that guy with. This dude is an absolute battering ram. Now,

1427
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: I do think that Fundora's volume and there is a

1428
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: pretty substantial height differential. Let me see if I can

1429
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: get it here, because Mendoza is actually rather short for

1430
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: the weight class. So if you just look at their dimensions,

1431
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: let me pull it up here. Fundora obviously standing at

1432
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: six foot five, Mendoza ready for this five ten. So

1433
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: there is a seven inch reached or a seven inch

1434
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: height differential. And then in terms of their reach, I

1435
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: don't have Mendozas.

1436
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 3: But Mendoza has that he can box and punch, but

1437
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 3: he's got that Mexican American style to get inside.

1438
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying Fundora has an eighty inch reach

1439
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: at one fifty.

1440
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 3: And he's going to give away most of the time

1441
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 3: that reached two dig shots on the inside. So you know,

1442
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 3: is there a potential trap here. It's certainly something worth

1443
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 3: watching because Fondora, who is always game Luke, but lacking

1444
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 3: one punch knock out ability which he does giving away

1445
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 3: your height regularly, which he does, He's there to be hit.

1446
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 3: We have to say that about Fondor. He is there

1447
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 3: to be hit. Lubin heard him and dropped him. He

1448
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 3: is there to be hit for his sake though if

1449
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 3: he if he survives in advances, we'll see if he

1450
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 3: can work his way into an actual title shot. But

1451
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to wait, Luke, that undisputed title. I mean,

1452
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 3: it's not it's not Jermel Charlo's fault, but he hasn't

1453
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: been that active either with the two fights against Castano.

1454
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: Right, and now we're I was gonna say Danis Sigura

1455
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: last week on the show for like the game Bread Game,

1456
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: we were playing. He put his crossover fight with Sebastian

1457
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: Fundora versus Justin Gaichee, which is actually not that bad

1458
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: of a fight. You would still expect Fundora to win,

1459
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: but because Gaichie is just so in your face. Yeah,

1460
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: and and Fundora is there to be hit, that'd be

1461
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: kind of a fun word for as long as it lasted.

1462
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 3: Fndora called the Towering Inferno. We used to call him

1463
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: the Praying Mantis Luke, and he's one of those unique

1464
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: fighters that's just so tall for the weight class. But dude,

1465
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 3: he's about that life to get in there. And it's

1466
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 3: not that there's no craft. He's a crafty brawler, right, yes,

1467
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 3: very craft He'll meet you in the middle. Let's see

1468
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 3: what's want to.

1469
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: Point out something if there's a substantial height differential, Remember

1470
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: some of the punches are going to be coming from

1471
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: like an angle like this, which is really unusual, and

1472
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: so I think Mendoz is gonna have to find an

1473
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: answer for that. But remember Mendoz has got just an

1474
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: absolute dynamite uppercut. I think you might see some of

1475
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: that that's hungry.

1476
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 3: He's somebody that, like we said, tasted defeat came back

1477
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 3: in a big way.

1478
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: I wish we had that highlight. It's such a vicious punch.

1479
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 3: Nine pm Eastern is the Showtime Championship Boxing triple header

1480
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 3: from Carson, California on Saturday. We already established Luke Thomas

1481
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 3: will be calling the preliminary action. Do you know what

1482
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 3: time that is? I don't, Okay, we'll check out.

1483
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: It's usually around six thirty or seven pm.

1484
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 3: In the Showtime Sports YouTube page. And as we looked

1485
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 3: up and down that under card, there was some names

1486
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 3: we know we'll see if they go into Devin, Alexander

1487
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 3: and those, but Luke. Also on this card, Brandon Lee

1488
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 3: is back a minus sixteen hundred favorite in the co

1489
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 3: feature against Pedro Kampa, who gave Tayo fam Lopez a

1490
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 3: come back test recently. Brandon Lee, Luke is unbeaten, athletic,

1491
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 3: big time power.

1492
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: Big time Yeah.

1493
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 3: The last couple of fights he's been he's had trouble

1494
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 3: at times. He's guys that are making they're boxing him,

1495
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 3: they're extending him, they're making things difficulty. He's he's got

1496
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 3: to make those adjustments.

1497
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad he's fighting a bit of a tougher

1498
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: guy this time because he's even on the prelims when

1499
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: we called the fights for Tank Davis and Hector Garcia

1500
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: and Washington DC. He's back on the main card against

1501
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: to think a bit of a tougher guy. Although he

1502
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: is heavily favored to win, He's still a young guy.

1503
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: I remember he wasn't that long ago. He wasn't on Showbox,

1504
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: or he wasn't Joeb excuse me. So I still like

1505
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: his upside, but I definitely agree like he can thump.

1506
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: He's very good. Need to see some steps taken forward

1507
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: in a match.

1508
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 3: Like he recently did sign though with Al Hayman in PBC.

1509
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 3: So let's see if he can get some big opportunities

1510
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 3: with a win here. And also Luis Nunia is a

1511
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 3: recent Showbox victor, will take on Christian Olivo in that opener.

1512
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 3: Luke h elsewhere here by the way, in Boxing Shakers,

1513
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 3: Stevenson is back. So he was a two division champion.

1514
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 3: He's unbeaten. He moved up to lightweight. Luke, he cannot

1515
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,439
Speaker 3: get a big time opponent, and he's trying to get

1516
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 3: everybody across all promotions in.

1517
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: That they don't want anything.

1518
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 3: They don't want anything to do with him. He's still

1519
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 3: hoping right now that he can maybe take on the

1520
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 3: winner of that May pay per view bout with undisputed

1521
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 3: champion Devin Haney against Vasili Lomachenko. But Saturday in Newark,

1522
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 3: New Jersey, his hometown, beginning seven pm on ESPN and

1523
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 3: ESPN plus Luke Eastern Time, he's going to take on

1524
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: Shuchiro Yoshino, who will be a plus eight hundred underdog.

1525
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 3: Yoshino did knock out Nakatani though, a guy who's given

1526
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: some guy's trouble, and he gave him absolutely so Shaker

1527
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 3: Stevenson Luke this week has been very honest. Not only

1528
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 3: has he looked sick and like I almost says some

1529
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 3: kind of colder illness in the interviews, but he was

1530
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 3: basically saying, like I got to keep myself motivated. People

1531
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 3: have forgotten about me, Luke. I think in this division,

1532
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 3: which we know Ryan Garcia and Jamonte Davis right now

1533
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 3: head of April twenty second are getting the buzz of

1534
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 3: a big close up. We know now Haini's going to

1535
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 3: defend all four titles against Lomo, which will be another

1536
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 3: big pay per view close up. Shirker feels like people

1537
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 3: have forgotten about him in a big way. I wonder

1538
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 3: if that fuels him and leads him to a dominant performances. Luke,

1539
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: I've been day one on this that at the end

1540
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 3: of the day, with all these young fighters and most

1541
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 3: of them have much bigger power than Shakhur, I still

1542
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 3: feel like Shaker Stevenson if anyone has looked like a

1543
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 3: next Floyd from the idea of a more defensive, slick

1544
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 3: boxer coming in and maybe going all the way to

1545
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 3: the pound for pound top and staying unbeaten and winning

1546
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 3: big fights. To Chaccuurse, still that guy, boys, he can

1547
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 3: have to prove it in this division eventually against those

1548
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 3: big punchers. But we sometimes talk off camera, Luke, about

1549
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 3: how good these guys are and how great they look,

1550
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 3: and what they could be to Shakure's lack of finishing

1551
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 3: power on a consistent basis. Now that he's up at

1552
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 3: a higher division at one thirty five, does that slow

1553
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 3: down his upper bound limit ceiling?

1554
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it will, though yes it will absolutely

1555
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: as a promotional entity, which we know carries implications, but

1556
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: but it commercially affects what kind of fights you get

1557
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: as well, and so I just wonder what kind of

1558
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: fights he's gonna be able to get. He has all

1559
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: the skill in the world. I mean, that dude is

1560
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: just so good, but he doesn't He didn't have pop

1561
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: at one thirty. I'm very skeptical he's gonna have pop

1562
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: at one thirty five. He'll win. He'll win this one easily.

1563
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: I just don't know how good he'll look. I mean,

1564
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: he'll look good in the sense of how clean he

1565
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: is as a technician, but in terms of like how

1566
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: dominant a figure where he's like busting up his opponents, Yeah,

1567
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't know about that.

1568
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 3: Look out in that comin event. Big Baby Jared Anderson,

1569
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 3: the rising American heavyweight prospect who's unbeaten. Young athletic big puncher.

1570
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: Davis he's got a hold on.

1571
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 3: Jared Anderson has a tough fight against George Arios, who

1572
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 3: is unbeating himself. Recently won a big fight on Showbox Luke.

1573
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 3: He is not a big puncher, and he's small for

1574
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 3: the division, but he's slick. He's got that sort of

1575
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 3: that old school Mike Tyson style. He puts pressure on you.

1576
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,759
Speaker 3: That should be an interesting test as Jared Anderson continues

1577
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 3: to look if any of the young heavyweights look like

1578
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 3: they might be able to one day enter that fury

1579
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,839
Speaker 3: while they're Joshua Billion, Oh yes, you know, oh six space,

1580
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 3: he's in there. He could be there. So you got

1581
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 3: to watch each step of the journey. Key Sean Davis

1582
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 3: that you mentioned just twenty four years old, seven to

1583
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 3: zero with five KOs. Luke, He's gonna take in his

1584
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 3: eighth pro fight, a ten round about against former champion

1585
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 3: Anthony Yiggett. There's a good test to see exactly where

1586
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 3: Keshawn is at. Was a favor to win Olympic gold

1587
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 3: and now is a pro has brothers on this card

1588
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 3: as well, and Shoeshoe Bruce Carrington Luke that prospect that

1589
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 3: we shoo Shoe, we see show up a lot and

1590
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 3: have you seen this shit? He's six and oh with

1591
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 3: three KOs. He'll also be on this card. So some

1592
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 3: things to watch for sure, and quickly Luke showbox the

1593
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 3: new generation. Also back your boy BC on vacation will

1594
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 3: not be there Friday night, but Brooks, California is the site.

1595
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 3: Snard Bunch versus Brian Flores junior welter rights in the

1596
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 3: main event, so check that out Friday night on showtime,

1597
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 3: Raoul Marquez, Barry Tompkins, Steve Harhood on the call. I'm

1598
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 3: sure they'll do it right and Luke I also wanted

1599
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 3: to say Saturday, I don't know the start time, but

1600
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 3: ESPN Plus is also giving us a card from Japan

1601
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 3: with three title fight I'm sorry, two title fights and

1602
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 3: the main event is Tension, not Sakawe back to boxing,

1603
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 3: So he's back to boxing. He's three and oh with

1604
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 3: one ko in boxing. He's a decorated kickboxer with of

1605
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 3: course saw on box Floyd Mayweather at that time. He's

1606
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 3: just twenty four years old. But I was told by

1607
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 3: people who know in Japan that this is a major,

1608
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 3: major story him transitioning now full time to boxing. We

1609
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 3: know the success a new A is having as sort

1610
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 3: of the pomp pound king and all boxing in the

1611
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 3: face of Japanese boxing. We got to keep our eye

1612
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 3: out for Osakawa.

1613
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. He had a great career in kickboxing, obviously,

1614
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing what he can do in boxing.

1615
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 3: If you're a hardcore there's some names you know fighting

1616
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 3: in titles on that card as well, and Luke also

1617
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 3: on his own this Saturday. I don't know the location. Oh, Carl,

1618
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 3: I don't know the site, Luke.

1619
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 1: Which one for the Bam Bam Rodriguez. Yeah, I'll look it.

1620
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 3: Up here, Bam Jesse bamban. Oh, he's home in San Antonio,

1621
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 3: that's the location. So it's the zone on Saturday. He is.

1622
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 3: He was a finalist in the Fighter of the Year

1623
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 3: voting last year, Luke, when he moved up two weight

1624
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 3: divisions and won huge fights. He's now moving down to

1625
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 3: one hundred and twelve pounds trying to win a title

1626
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 3: in a second weight class when he takes on Christian

1627
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 3: Gonzalez for the vacant WBO flyweight strap. So Bam Rodriguez,

1628
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 3: Luke is just what like twenty two goes after. It

1629
01:10:58,160 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 3: looks like he could be the next like future mech

1630
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 3: can you know, exciting standout star. Yeah, it's of the

1631
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 3: lower weight classes though he's a big favorite to do

1632
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 3: this and in that Cole main event, where have you

1633
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 3: been all our lives? Merged on Aquadaliev. He's got two

1634
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 3: of those four titles at one twenty two. Stephen Fulton

1635
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 3: Junior has the others. He'll be taking on Marlin to

1636
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 3: Poulus to further unify that belt. Is I don't know

1637
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 3: the situation. There's always belt hanging around, Luke.

1638
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: You know that situation, right, Yeah, I don't know what

1639
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: the belt's significance are. By the way, Bam Rodriguez a

1640
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: minus three thousand favorites, so he's gonna take Christian Gonzalez's

1641
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: lunch money.

1642
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 3: Here, there we go. That takes us a topic five, Luke,

1643
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 3: after we've set the stage on all these fights, now

1644
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 3: we've got to put our money and reputation where our

1645
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 3: mouth is, so to speak. And I know where your

1646
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 3: mouth has been. And I mean, did you not each

1647
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 3: time at uber Etzko? I don't know what the pixel

1648
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 3: Just pick three meals and pick which one tastes better

1649
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 3: and eat that.

1650
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but maybe two.

1651
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 3: There's a lot of homeless people that could use that food.

1652
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: Though I give money to them. Thank you for you

1653
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: give money of the home.

1654
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 3: Oh I don't I just talk about how you don't?

1655
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 3: All right, apparently you do, Luke. Okay, bet is the

1656
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 3: segment here as we evolve where you and I go

1657
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 3: head to head five picks each each week, where at

1658
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 3: the end of the year, Luke the loser, and this

1659
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 3: head to head battle will not only be shamed, he'll

1660
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 3: be outed as as you know, having no clue how

1661
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 3: to bet fights. And then he'll have to go to

1662
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 3: a concert of the other host's choice. And maybe they're

1663
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 3: with MK dock cameras if they ever find Jake. Where

1664
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 3: the hell is Jake?

1665
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to Jake.

1666
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 3: Where did he think he was on vacation during Caleb

1667
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 3: Plant Week? But I needed him in my life, Jake

1668
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 3: von Amsterdam. I need you in my life to document

1669
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 3: my life. Okay, Luke, okay, bet last week? Do we

1670
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 3: have a graphic to see what happened?

1671
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: Luke?

1672
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 3: I didn't do that? Well, surprised you went three and

1673
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 3: two overall? I just decided two weeks ago. I'm not

1674
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 3: sure we did this last year.

1675
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: We didn't do it last week because you were out

1676
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 1: at the time.

1677
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 3: Yes, I went two and four or so. If somebodys

1678
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 3: talking to my heir, I had it down too low?

1679
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 3: Can I hear you again? Plant week? Plant Week? So

1680
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 3: I went two and four, you went three two? Mikey,

1681
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 3: do we have the updated record here on the screen?

1682
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 1: Yeah? We don't have shit?

1683
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 3: All right? Well, Luke, you're beating me is what I

1684
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 3: want to tell you right now. I can't tell you

1685
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 3: by how many, but maybe that will protect my image

1686
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 3: for one more week. But we got a lot to

1687
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,839
Speaker 3: choose from here. UFC two eighty seven is the focus.

1688
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 3: Our five categories are pick the biggest main event, pick

1689
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 3: a favorite, pick an underdog over under, on which fight

1690
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 3: well will or will not go the distance, and Ko

1691
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 3: or sub as the defending champion. Luke, you have the

1692
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 3: choice first or second.

1693
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: I will go second.

1694
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 3: Okay, let's start with our main event. Pick obviously that's

1695
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 3: in Miami UFC two eighty seven, the middleweight title rematch.

1696
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 3: It's a recurring theme here. Death tax is for Israel

1697
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 3: out of Sonia and Alex Padeda gets his hand raised. Luke,

1698
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 3: for all the things we've broken down all week, and

1699
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 3: the reasons why I like Paderta hair, I think that

1700
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 3: Israelda Signi's going to show us some different looks, try

1701
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 3: different things. But again, as we talked about, to kick

1702
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 3: the show off, unless he can get him off of

1703
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 3: plan A, make him uncomfortable, expose some of the inexperience

1704
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 3: that Padata has in MMA. None of this seems to

1705
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 3: matter with this guy because some of these intangibles he

1706
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 3: seems special about, and part of that is putting on pressure,

1707
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 3: staying in your face and remaining dangerous for all twenty

1708
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 3: five minutes. Sometimes these trends just work themselves out. Do

1709
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 3: I believe Outa Sinya is the better fighter? Yes? Has

1710
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 3: he won more rounds? Yes? If you told me in

1711
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 3: advance this fight's going the distance and you asked me who,

1712
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 3: I think one, probably out of Sonya. But Luke Padata

1713
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 3: has his number, and the more we find out about him.

1714
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 3: By the way, I said Padata yesterday in front of

1715
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 3: Johnannick and he praised me. And John Anick is the.

1716
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: I don't think data is the pronunciation. I could be wrong.

1717
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 3: In fact, John Anack told us that mister Adisanya told

1718
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 3: us that Adasanya is just fine.

1719
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they told him that because they everyone's been butchering

1720
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 1: it since day one. Is the same reason why Adrian

1721
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: Yanyez as Yanez because everyone fucks up Yanyez.

1722
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 3: So I don't think we need to say out of

1723
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 3: Sonya anymore.

1724
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: I haven't said it once. Actually I never said sewing.

1725
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's literally never. I've never said sewing.

1726
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 3: I've heard I think we have taped to prove that. Luke,

1727
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go without.

1728
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 1: Data in the main event, I understand it. You know what, Listen,

1729
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: I've ridden with the guy this long. I'm not about

1730
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 1: to change. I'm gonna go with Izzy. But I certainly

1731
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 1: certainly recognize this is a difficult frankly the most important

1732
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: juncture of Izzy's career, to be quite honest with you,

1733
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: and I get it. I think he can do it.

1734
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: He's really got to make some changes that I'm going

1735
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: to ride with the former champ maybe soon to be

1736
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: Champ Izzy, Luke.

1737
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 3: There's a Rider Die theme going on here. Some fighters

1738
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 3: just have nine lives in your own personal universe, you know.

1739
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 3: For me that was always Adrian Broner. I'm here con

1740
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 3: I mean guys that it's like, no matter what they

1741
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 3: showed or what obstacles were against him, I just believe

1742
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 3: they can come back and do it again. I want

1743
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 3: to believe in Kelvin Gastelum. So my favorite this week,

1744
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 3: Luke is a minus one thirty two Kelvin Gastolum in

1745
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 3: the prelim card of UFC two eighty seven against a

1746
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: very tough out in Chris Curtis gastlum Is has lost

1747
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 3: five of his last six. Even with the young age

1748
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 3: thirty one years old, there's just not going to be

1749
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 3: a lot of time left to say how much you know,

1750
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 3: can he reinvent? Can he do it? That time is

1751
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 3: right now, skill for skill, he should win this fight.

1752
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 3: The odds are telling you that it's not gonna be easy.

1753
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 3: But Luca, I think I'm gonna need what we talked

1754
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,799
Speaker 3: about earlier. I'm gonna need the threat of his wrestling.

1755
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to need that dynamic striking when he can

1756
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 3: come in at angles that he did against Atisania, but not

1757
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 3: linger too long and get into a war. I need

1758
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 3: to see him to carry out a game plan and

1759
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 3: control the terms here and rely on that experience in

1760
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 3: technical advantage over Curtis and not just get lured into

1761
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 3: who's the bigger man here. Let's let's do this the

1762
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,719
Speaker 3: right way. If it's not now, it's never. I'm gonna

1763
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 3: go with him one more time killed.

1764
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: And Guys, I don't think that's crazy. It's a tough,

1765
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: close fight. I like that pick. It's not the one

1766
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with, but I respect that one

1767
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: for me, for my favorite and again we have limits

1768
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: about how much of a favorite they can be before

1769
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: you pick them. But I'm gonna go with Adrian. I

1770
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: really believe this is a very difficult fight. Rob Faught

1771
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: is not to be trifled with. As we've said, this

1772
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: is by far Yanyez's toughest opponent, but because of his

1773
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: upside and already of the skills he's shown and how

1774
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: much he is developing fight over fight and is high

1775
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: high high fight IQ, I think Rob Font will make

1776
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: it interesting. I think he'll make it difficult, but in

1777
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: the end I like Yanyaz to get his hand raised.

1778
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 3: See that's interesting. As we now said, it over to

1779
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,560
Speaker 3: category three underdogs, Luke, Rob Font a small underdog and

1780
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 3: want and five. It's one of those things, Luke, where

1781
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 3: sometimes you just we see this a lot. A guy

1782
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 3: looks really good at a certain level of competition, and

1783
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 3: then they step up and sometimes there's just that last

1784
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,839
Speaker 3: hurdle or hiccup, and it's not always they fought horrible.

1785
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just they fought a tough guy and it

1786
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 3: was a close fight, and it came down to the

1787
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 3: three rounds which side of the judges go. I think

1788
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 3: Rob fonk can use that jab and make this a

1789
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 3: close fight. It's going to be up to him to

1790
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 3: do a little bit more than that jab to have

1791
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 3: a say on the scorecards. But I think if you

1792
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 3: ask me long term, who's you know, who's got the

1793
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 3: brightest potential Gianyez. Will he end up there in the

1794
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 3: top five of this division threatening for a title. I

1795
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 3: think he eventually ends up there. I love a lot

1796
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 3: about him, but I think we are sleeping a little

1797
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 3: bit collectively on Rob Fon. He's got a lot of

1798
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 3: reason to come back. It's motivation in the moment. In

1799
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 3: the moment right now, he has motivation to hold the spot,

1800
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 3: to dig in. He's ready to go to war to

1801
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 3: do that. I think we're gonna see three on fun

1802
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 3: fight here that the veteran may get his hand raise.

1803
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 3: It may not be one that you agree with, will

1804
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 3: be talking about the strategy. It's gonna be a close

1805
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 3: fight here. That's the thing. At the end of the day.

1806
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 3: Fonts got to use that year off and show us

1807
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 3: that he can do it. But I'm gonna go with

1808
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 3: the co host of Mike Owhen's media's podcast, all.

1809
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: Right, very good. I don't again, these are not bad

1810
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: choices you're making. I like them. I'm gonna give a

1811
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 1: shot for my underdog pick, and again not a substantial underdog,

1812
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: just a very slight one. I'm gonna go with action

1813
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: man Chris Curtis. I really like his game. I love

1814
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 1: his defense on the feet. His striking defense is really

1815
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,919
Speaker 1: really good. He got dinged for it by the commentary

1816
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: team in the Buckley fight, but if you go back

1817
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: and watch man, he just wasn't taking a lot of abuse,

1818
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: and then when it was his time to go, he went.

1819
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I really really think that being an extreme

1820
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:44,560
Speaker 1: couturire for as long as he had, and some of

1821
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: the tough experiences he had through the early and middle

1822
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: parts of his career really have created a very dynamic, experienced,

1823
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: understanding fighter of what his assignments are, what his opponents do,

1824
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 1: what he's responsible for, and it all kind of works.

1825
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: Great boxer, good power, South Paul. I'm gonna go with

1826
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 1: Chris Curtis.

1827
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,759
Speaker 3: Our first three picks have us head to head against

1828
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 3: each other in the same fight. I like that, just

1829
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:08,560
Speaker 3: in different order, but it ultimately.

1830
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: It's a different order.

1831
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 3: Yes, you're right, so we're gonna I could make some

1832
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 3: movement here for sure. On the standings over under, which

1833
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 3: is essentially our way of saying a fight, will it

1834
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:20,440
Speaker 3: go the distance or not? Raoul Rosas Junior versus Christian Rodriguez,

1835
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 3: I say goes over. I say this is the test

1836
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 3: for Raoul Rosas where he still wins, still looks very

1837
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 3: good doing it, but it's not gonna be And I

1838
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 3: think he needs that in his rise, whether it's this

1839
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 3: fight or the next one. He needs that where he

1840
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 3: faces some resistance, where he's got to make the adjustments.

1841
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 3: He still may end up outworking him, having the big

1842
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 3: moments and winning this fight by decision. But our get

1843
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 3: bed here is over or under. Luke, I think it's

1844
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 3: gonna go the distance here and Rosas gets the win.

1845
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 3: But if it goes the distance, I win the bet.

1846
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 3: All right?

1847
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: Fair enough for my over under, I'm gonna go a

1848
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 1: little bit differently. I just I don't really know how

1849
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 1: this fight is gonna go, and I'm a little bit

1850
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 1: confused by it. But these guys just always seem I mean,

1851
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 1: they've been to decisions in their career, in fact, in

1852
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: certain cases many times, but of I just feel like

1853
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: they form a potentially combustible mix. So I'm gonna take

1854
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: the fight going not the distance. So I'm gonna take

1855
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: the under on Kevin Holland versus Santiogo Ponzinnibbui. I just

1856
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: really believe that one way or the other, one's gonna

1857
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: make a mistake or get injured, or get finished or whatever.

1858
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: They just you know, are they gonna go fifteen minutes

1859
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: to get their hands raised? Maybe? But both guys have

1860
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: a propensity for great ability as also a great mistake,

1861
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: and when you put those together sometimes it just doesn't

1862
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 1: work out for a fight that goes a distance. I'm

1863
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: gonna take the under.

1864
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 3: Our final category is ko or suber. We have to

1865
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 3: pick the fight and the stipulation, not the winner. But Luke,

1866
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 3: when I look at Gerald Mehershard, Joe Pifer, when we

1867
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 3: say be like Joe Pifer, it's somebody who goes after it.

1868
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 3: He's trying to make a name for himself. He's he's

1869
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 3: looked pretty damn good along the way. I say that

1870
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 3: fight goes by knockout, and I'm gonna go that direction.

1871
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 3: That means more likely for Pifer in my opinion, to

1872
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 3: do it. But Luke, I'm gonna roll with him. I'm

1873
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 3: gonna be like Joe Pifer and take that bet I'm taking.

1874
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 3: I'm taking some chances this week. I gotta shake things

1875
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 3: up right, all right.

1876
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: So for my KO or SUB, I'm gonna go sub,

1877
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go Raouel Rosas Junior versus Christian Rodriguez

1878
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 1: versus SUB. I just feel like that's Raoul rosis number

1879
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 1: one way to win. But if he's not mining his

1880
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: p's and q's, it probably could lead to someone else.

1881
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 1: And by the way, I think rodriguez last fight ended

1882
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 1: in submission victoriously for him, so he's got a little

1883
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: bit of skills there. And if you just make mistakes

1884
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: on the ground, obviously you set yourself up for another submission.

1885
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 1: So either way, I think Rosaus versus Rodriguez, I'm going

1886
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: to pick to end in submission.

1887
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 3: Before we continue to denigrate my liver, Luke, let's talk

1888
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 3: about UFC two eighty seven.

1889
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: Quickly.

1890
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 3: We know it's going down this weekend in Miami. That's Israel,

1891
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 3: lot of Signia, that's Wrey moswel As we talk about,

1892
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 3: it's Gilbert Burns in action. And it's the perfect time

1893
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 3: right now to place some bets on this eighties two

1894
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 3: eighty seven card with my Bookie.

1895
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: That's right. If you're asking yourself why you should choose

1896
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: my Bookie over the competition, the answer is simple. They

1897
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 1: give you the best bang for your buck period.

1898
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,759
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1899
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1901
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1903
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1904
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Speaker 1: right now, I'll tell you how you can play with

1905
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,520
Speaker 1: house money. Visit my Booky online and use our code combat.

1906
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: That's combat with a K to claim a deposit.

1907
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 3: Match bonus, you get a hot dog with that aside.

1908
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 1: You're about to that's.

1909
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 3: Combat with a K on your first deposit, so you

1910
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 3: can start your night off with a win. Bet anything, anytime,

1911
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 3: anywhere with my Bookie. I always see Montana de la

1912
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 3: Rossa doing my Bookie reads. Now we're That means we're

1913
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 3: you know, we're on that level.

1914
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 1: I bet you do see Montana de la Rossa a

1915
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: lot on your phone.

1916
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 3: I bet you do, all right, Luke, your wife issued

1917
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:35,839
Speaker 3: me a challenge.

1918
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: She said, that's right.

1919
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Speaker 3: If I call her Senora Thomas, is that nice? Or

1920
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 3: is that like me calling my wife ma'am? And then

1921
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 3: I would get it.

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01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: That's fine.

1923
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 3: Senora Thomas gave me a challenge, Okay, she said, don't

1924
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 3: just have another hot dog and set yourself back, and

1925
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 3: you know, change your skin color to yellow and green mixed.

1926
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Speaker 3: Have a Colombian hot.

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Speaker 1: Dogs, right.

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01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,799
Speaker 3: Michey more miles slides in Florida.

1929
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna keep my microphone plugged in, but I

1930
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 1: want to see what you got.

1931
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 3: Let's oh my god.

1932
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: Okay, So here's what we do.

1933
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 3: What is this?

1934
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: Okay? So here's what we have. I don't know if

1935
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: you can see here. I'm gonna I'm gonna shoore. So

1936
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 1: look here, if you can see can we put the

1937
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: camera on that? Can we put the number two on that?

1938
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1939
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna there'd be a number two at the end

1940
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 3: of this, Luke, I'll tell you that much.

1941
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: Here we go. Wait wait wait wait wait, wait, here

1942
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: we go. There we go right there, you can see it. Okay,

1943
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: So what we have here, this is a dessert meal meal.

1944
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 1: So what they do is I don't know if they

1945
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 1: put the pineapple in it. In Colombia they'll put they'll

1946
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: put the pineapple sauce in it. I don't know if

1947
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: they did. But what you have here is the dog

1948
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,799
Speaker 1: in the middle. They take potato chips and they crumble

1949
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: them all up and then they sprinkle the top. Then

1950
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: on top this pink sauce is typically mayo mixed with ketchup.

1951
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: And then what you have these are little quail eggs.

1952
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,759
Speaker 3: Okay, that's disgusting. Quail eggs.

1953
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: They should be quail eggs.

1954
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 3: Look at the color on that quail egg. Dude, that

1955
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 3: guy's like, that's carry in the opening seat.

1956
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: If you want for your first bot, you can take

1957
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 1: off the quailegg I'll eat it later. But but that's

1958
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: what you got a little bit of catch it on top.

1959
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: Let's see what we got. I would the authenticity of

1960
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: this Columbian hot dog.

1961
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 3: So if you go to Colombia buy this from can

1962
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: we shut them out or.

1963
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Speaker 1: I don't know. If you go to Columbia, what ends

1964
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 1: up happening is all often turned the bun inside out

1965
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,600
Speaker 1: and they use what you ever see him the matchstick

1966
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 1: potato chips. You're like little thin match sticks. That's how

1967
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 1: they typically serve it down there? All right, here we go.

1968
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 3: You know, Luke, can we give a disclaimer because you know, like,

1969
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 3: it's not nice of me to keep bringing up is

1970
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 3: he saggy nipple? Because it's you know, it's not nice

1971
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 3: of you to always talk about my wandering eye when

1972
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 3: I chew. It's a it's a life.

1973
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: I want to see this. It's a tech ship, gonna

1974
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 1: teach the Guilos some kung fu up in those bits.

1975
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: Oh he went right to the fucking quail egg. Wow,

1976
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: all right, what do we think? Let's take give him

1977
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 1: a second. It's it's a big bite, right, There's a

1978
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 1: lot going on there. Look at this man. There's the eye.

1979
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 1: There's the eye.

1980
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 3: I was looking at that.

1981
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: I bet you were Biggie Smalls from Bedford stavesant. It's

1982
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 1: eggshin eating the Columbian hot dog.

1983
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 3: I can feel myself dying.

1984
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 1: And so this is.

1985
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 3: It's good, really good.

1986
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: All right, Let's give it a rating, Let's give it

1987
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: a let's give it a give us a review. Here.

1988
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if I tasted it a quail eg

1989
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 3: or if it just fit underneath this concoction. Because you know,

1990
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 3: I like messes. I like beautiful disasters right, like like

1991
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 3: three eleven, Like I went to Rochester, New York and

1992
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 3: had their garbage plate that they're known for. You know,

1993
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 3: let we talk about that, which is like baked beans

1994
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 3: and potatoes and everything you can think of on top, Luke,

1995
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 3: this has that feel. But those chips give you a

1996
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,600
Speaker 3: crisp like I've long put baked beans or chips in

1997
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 3: a hot dog, but I'm.

1998
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: Not a baked bean guy. But the chips thing is

1999
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: definitely a winner.

2000
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 3: And that sauce is the boss.

2001
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 1: It's amazing, amazing.

2002
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 3: I almost want to pause this show and kind of

2003
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 3: like make love to this thing.

2004
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: Have another bite, have another bike. Colombian stavice, to me,

2005
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,679
Speaker 1: is not nearly as good as Peruvian savice. Peruvian savice

2006
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 1: is lonely horror, it's the best, yeah, But Colombian cavich

2007
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,799
Speaker 1: is just very simple. And there's a when Anthony Bourdain

2008
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: went to Columbia, he had some and it looked pretty good.

2009
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,520
Speaker 1: All right, second bite, what do we think? They're overloaded

2010
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: as shit? Right? Like they're hard to eat.

2011
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 3: I had to check and make sure it wasn't a

2012
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 3: red Jamaican hot dog. You ever see those them?

2013
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are gross? How is the hot dog itself?

2014
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: Is it okay? It looks like it smoked a little bit.

2015
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 3: It is smoky.

2016
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how they cook them.

2017
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 3: Bro. It was really good.

2018
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

2019
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 3: I the Royals once played the Yankees in two thousand

2020
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 3: and two and I ate eight hot dogs outside before

2021
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 3: the game, in succession eight. And there were girls that

2022
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 3: were friends of the people we were with.

2023
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: Who are who? Texas pulled Luke.

2024
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 3: They were appalled that I had eight before we walked

2025
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 3: into there.

2026
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,719
Speaker 1: We say eight hot dogs, that's eight with the bun.

2027
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, ordered that once and just took it all.

2028
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: There are you used Joey Chestnut in this bit? All right?

2029
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: Let me see. So let's see. Let's get a review.

2030
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send this to my wife. Here we go

2031
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: get let's do a rating, one out of ten. Tell

2032
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: me what you like to tell me what you did,

2033
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: and give us a number.

2034
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 3: The quail eggs scared me. I don't know if I

2035
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 3: identified the taste within there. It was just one concoction,

2036
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 3: and I like that. But the dog itself tastes good,

2037
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 3: and then the chips and that orange sauce is what

2038
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 3: makes it. So I was expecting out of ten for

2039
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 3: this to be about a four, and you know, if

2040
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 3: that's disrespectful to Colombians, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna give

2041
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 3: this like an eight and a half.

2042
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2043
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 3: In fact, I want to further investigate this, even if

2044
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 3: though it you know, it takes probably five days off

2045
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 3: my life each my life expects at each time, I think,

2046
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 3: I want to figure out if this is the way

2047
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 3: I should be doing this, Like I shouldn't be doing

2048
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 3: this at all, but if I do, I should do

2049
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 3: it Colombian style. And that's what you chose a that

2050
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 3: life path too, That's what I did. Like, I don't

2051
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 3: know if marriage is for me, but if I do,

2052
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 3: it'll be Colombia.

2053
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 1: The potato chips on top, they're a winner. Is there

2054
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 1: apple sauce in there? They're probably pineapple pineapple sauce in there?

2055
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:49,560
Speaker 3: Cream up some young guy or something in here. I

2056
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 3: don't know a little bit.

2057
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: But okay, there we have it. Look at that, and

2058
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:53,759
Speaker 1: how winter a winner?

2059
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 3: I can I dip the rest of my food?

2060
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me say, I don't even know that. So

2061
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: that's more, that's more of the pink sauce.

2062
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 3: Then I'm gonna eat this whole thing.

2063
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, do it? Do it? Do you want to do fansops? Wow, Luke,

2064
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: so so far in terms of my way, that's a

2065
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 1: very mild version of Columbian hot dogs. They come much

2066
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: more like sprouting or I should say, covered in toppings.

2067
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 1: You can get them significantly more involved.

2068
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 3: My mom was life texting me about this shirt and hair.

2069
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 3: She thinks it looks nice on me.

2070
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 1: The tight Yeah, well your mom is lying to you, bitch.

2071
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: You look terrible, you.

2072
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:31,600
Speaker 3: Know, you know? Okay, there we go, Luke Thomas, I

2073
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 3: wanted to remind you. And so so if the Columbian

2074
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 3: things you've tried to bring into my life, I've accepted.

2075
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 3: Danny Sagar. I love that guy.

2076
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 1: He's great.

2077
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,560
Speaker 3: All right, Yep, that's about it. Oh, the two Escobars

2078
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 3: documentary was fantastic.

2079
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:43,959
Speaker 1: That's an amazing documentary.

2080
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 3: Thirty for thirty it was incredible. And now the hot

2081
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 3: dogs you know in Tuki and Senora Thomas and now

2082
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 3: these hot.

2083
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: Dogs and do you know what they call hot dogs

2084
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 1: in Spanish? No perros calientes hot dogs or dogs hot really?

2085
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, right, we should get we Yeah, I'm gonna

2086
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 3: we're gonna, yeah quickly when we talk about our friends

2087
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 3: over that Showtime in the thirty days you can get

2088
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 3: for free at showtime dot com. It would be a

2089
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 3: good time right now, Luke, We played some clips earlier

2090
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 3: this week, but I just want to remind people. The

2091
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 3: documentary Catching Lightning will debut on all Showtime streaming platforms

2092
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 3: on April seventh, meaning you know you can stream Showtime anywhere,

2093
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 3: right to your phone, all that stuff. The television debut

2094
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 3: is Sunday, April ninth. But it's a story, of course,

2095
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 3: about the infamous Mma legend Lightning Lee Murray and his

2096
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 3: ties into organized crime, which led to the largest bank

2097
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 3: heist in UK history, the equivalent of ninety two million

2098
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 3: dollars they'd took back in what two thousand and six ish.

2099
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 3: The stories in this that are told in this doc

2100
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 3: shout out to Pat Candelis, the director. You can check

2101
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 3: out my interview with him was apparently my twin. I

2102
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 3: couldn't get that picture put up in time on this show. Look,

2103
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 3: but they're saying essentially if you went, if you shaved

2104
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 3: your head bald tomorrow, that you and Pat Candelis could

2105
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 3: could swap place.

2106
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah they're wrong, great director, though, right we saw people

2107
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: told me for fifteen years. I looked like Matt Brown.

2108
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: Then Matt Brown and I stood next to each other,

2109
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 1: people like, oh.

2110
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, really one of you is immortal, Luke, that's for sure.

2111
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 3: All right, I'll tell you this, guys. Look, this is

2112
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 3: a good one. Okay. It's got the Mma side, Anderson Silva,

2113
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 3: Chuck Lidell and many more. Pat Milic's many legends give

2114
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 3: the voice here of those behind the scenes stories, the

2115
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 3: crazy street fights, but that whole element of crime. And

2116
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 3: I mean, look, this is good stuff. And I can't

2117
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 3: wait to get your full review. You know, Mikey said

2118
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 3: it's the best thing he's ever seen. I although you

2119
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 3: no longer are going to allow Mikey to pick the

2120
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 3: restaurants on it whenever we.

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Speaker 1: W well, Mikey is. I love Mikey. First of all,

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01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 1: Michael did unbelievable.

2123
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 3: Job grinding all his life right.

2124
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 1: This trip shouts to Mikey. But Mikey, you got the

2125
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 1: palate of a toddler. I love you, But you got

2126
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 1: the pallet of a toddler. We got to fix that, bro,

2127
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: We got to fix that. All right.

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01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,799
Speaker 3: There you go check out that documentary. Friday, April seventh,

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01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 3: the premiere I believe was just last night in La

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01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 3: so a lot of.

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01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: Lumin Yeah yeah, e cac Lydon went absolutely.

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01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 3: Look seriously, it's a four part docuseriies it is fan

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01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 3: frigg fantastic. We close though with the email address that

2134
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 3: we offer you, and we put a little pressure on

2135
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 3: you to step up your game of late or I mean, look,

2136
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 3: people are making great fans us, becoming legends and then disappearing.

2137
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,560
Speaker 3: Is it us? Is it them? Is it the legal system?

2138
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 3: We give you an email address of warning combat at

2139
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 3: gmail dot com to reach out to Mikey touch him

2140
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 3: and you know, pictures of you wearing tight T shirts,

2141
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 3: some artwork. We put it up on our fridge. It's

2142
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 3: called fan submissions.

2143
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 1: Submissions.

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01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 3: We do have a lot of those male viewers, Luke,

2145
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 3: and one of them is named Jordan, and he says,

2146
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 3: what's up, y'all, I'm coming to you from Atlanta, GA.

2147
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 3: I'd like to co sign Luke's occasional slander of Marietta.

2148
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 3: Everyone there is either an attorney or a younger looking

2149
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 3: lt vaporing mystery liquids and driving a lowered Honda Civic. Anyway,

2150
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 3: I'd like to ask Luke to rate my tat I'm

2151
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 3: working on a sticker sleeve above my great uncle who

2152
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 3: was handing out CTE way before BKFC. I just got

2153
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 3: this new bear trap piece. I knew this was the

2154
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 3: number one Combat Sport past podcast. Ever when I saw

2155
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 3: Why Nations Fail on luketah bookshelf.

2156
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: Which actually turns out to be not a great book.

2157
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 3: And I've been a down ass donk ever since. Thank

2158
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 3: you for all you do. It's Jordan Luke rate his task, so.

2159
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 1: It's a little hard for me to rate the other

2160
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: ones because they're older. But the new one he has

2161
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 1: is first rate. This is a style called American Traditional.

2162
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 1: You do see a lot of sort of bare knuckle

2163
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: boxer types tattooed, and that one looks fine, But the

2164
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 1: one above it with this sort of the chain as

2165
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 1: it were, and then then the blood drops coming off

2166
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 1: of it is exactly how it's supposed to look. The

2167
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 1: shading looks good, the dimensions look good. It's it's solid.

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01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 1: It's pretty good.

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01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 3: I like it.

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01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: That a solid eight and a half.

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01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 3: I like it. How he has his grandpa on there too.

2172
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome.

2173
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 3: Shout out to Jordan from Atlanta, GA. Thank you very much.

2174
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 3: Let's go over to Eric YOU'BC NLT. I'm a washed

2175
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 3: up donk who's been living in Fuket, Thailand for twenty years.

2176
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 1: Quette pouquette, fuck it, Luke.

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01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 3: Okay, he says, I haven't missed an episode of m

2178
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 3: Case since my buddy recommended the show to me early

2179
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 3: on during the pandemic. Here's a pick of me wearing

2180
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 3: my sch Medium MK shirt after a recent haircut. My

2181
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 3: barbershop is literally next to Tiger muy Thai and the

2182
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 3: owner is a bit of a local legend, having cut

2183
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 3: hair for some of the biggest names in UFC Belator

2184
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 3: and one Risen pfl all that rise and countless promotions

2185
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 3: around Asia. A cut and a beard trim set me back.

2186
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 3: Get ready for this ten bucks the equivalent to three

2187
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty Thai bots, Luke. There's no eighty dollars,

2188
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 3: no one hundred dollars in here. Beat that price in service, BC.

2189
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 3: It's also customary in Thailand to use a straight blade

2190
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 3: razor to clean up the edges around the ears and

2191
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 3: shave off us Neanderthal's neck salad. What would something like

2192
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 3: that set you back? In DC? Luke ninety five dollars.

2193
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,799
Speaker 1: Yes, at least at least that's a good looking at haircut.

2194
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 3: What do you think brought him to Thailand? The sex trade?

2195
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, sex trade and antibiotics.

2196
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 3: And I like Eric, Eric's our guy, right, you know,

2197
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 3: and he's investing in that. Like do you think he's

2198
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 3: gonna hang out outside of Tiger Muytai just hoping that

2199
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 3: the Chefchenko show up? I know you would, yo, Pavel.

2200
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:05,600
Speaker 3: He knows how to use that piece. You know what

2201
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 3: I'm saying. No, No, the shooting that happened, I don't know,

2202
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 3: you know, No, they're no, seriously, dude it but he

2203
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 3: was a Euro, right, you know what I mean? I

2204
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 3: mean the other parts probably true too. Luke, All right,

2205
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 3: let's go over to Yannick. He says, Hi, guys, a

2206
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:18,720
Speaker 3: little meme I thought of.

2207
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 1: Luke talking to Danny Segura Columbia.

2208
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 3: Luke talking, Yeah, Luke, what's with that?

2209
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 1: Hey? He was our guest. Like I always try to

2210
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 1: explain it to people, like some of the insults I mean,

2211
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 1: but the vast majority I don't. And it's all part

2212
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 1: of the bit. It's all part of the bit, skits

2213
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 1: and bits.

2214
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 3: Look, I love when people are like you know it's

2215
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 3: Luke like really a bitch in real life. I'm like,

2216
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 3: of course, this is not like that part's not a

2217
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 3: bit like yes, yes, there's no question about it. Let's

2218
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 3: go over the average Joe art. Luke, this guy's really

2219
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 3: talented man. He says, all reigning champions deserve to have

2220
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 3: their own title belt. So I present to you the

2221
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 3: MK World title from original concept sketch to a flat

2222
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 3: colored render. I try to include as much from the

2223
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 3: show as possible without making it overcrowded. It's been almost

2224
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 3: a year since I sent in that poster artwork featuring

2225
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 3: Luke and Bryan, so I thought it was about time

2226
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 3: to liven up fans. Hey, can we get a red

2227
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 3: hat make fansubmissions great again? Yeah?

2228
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 1: All right?

2229
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 3: The strap is old washed leather, Luke. The center play

2230
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 3: is adorned with the flags of the champions DC and CT.

2231
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 3: Each side plate represents a cornerstone segment of the show.

2232
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 3: Have you seen this shit? Dms from Donks etc. The

2233
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 3: segments and rather than fastened with regular snap buttons, the

2234
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 3: pointed fingers would go tip to tip when when wrapped

2235
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 3: around and clasped. Throw in some gold and silver sprinkling

2236
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 3: diamonds and rubies, as well as red enamel backing for

2237
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 3: the show's main logo in the center. Perhaps one day

2238
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 3: the fine folks at Showtime will commission a pair of

2239
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 3: these for the reigning defending Combat Sports Podcasting Champions for

2240
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 3: two and soon to be three years and a row.

2241
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 3: Keep up the good work, especially rsd Arnold, Allen and

2242
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:02,519
Speaker 3: Paul made me laugh harder than I've laughed in a

2243
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 3: good wile. Luke, speak to average Joe Art's design pattern here,

2244
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 3: because did you see him and Brian Daily were tweeting

2245
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 3: at each other.

2246
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 1: I did see that Daily you got something for us bro,

2247
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 1: try to find that out. But dude, average Joe, I

2248
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 1: mean he put the DC flag on there, he put

2249
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 1: the Connecticut and I think I don't know state symbol

2250
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever it is. Yeah, but then the tip

2251
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 1: to tip thing I did. It's just so many, just

2252
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 1: the tales that only a super fan could get and

2253
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 1: would even care about to try truly appreciate it.

2254
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 3: But we can't wait till you disappear like Damien the

2255
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:35,599
Speaker 3: Donken Web scream and you.

2256
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 1: Know, no, I'm just you know, I'm just careful about

2257
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 1: answering my dms. You just let all the house cats in,

2258
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 1: all the stray cats in the house just come on in.

2259
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 1: Fuckers like you know, they go over and shit and

2260
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 1: fists everywhere. And then you'll come to me being like, head,

2261
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 1: this guy's really weird, and I'll be like, right, well,

2262
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 1: you're don't let we wos in your orbit stupid? Okay,

2263
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 1: all right, but average Joe is not. He seems like

2264
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 1: a very nice guy and he's very talented, and it

2265
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 1: would be do how cool would it be if we

2266
01:36:58,400 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 1: got a couple of.

2267
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 3: Those, be incredible for the set to, you know, to

2268
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:06,759
Speaker 3: celebrate our winds in life. Look, there's a great quote

2269
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 3: from the singer Josiah Johnson used to Be in the

2270
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 3: Head and the Heart in his song False Alarm that says,

2271
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 3: do the work to uh to discover other people's magic.

2272
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: Have you done the work to discover my magic?

2273
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:23,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why we're still together.

2274
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 1: I've discovered your magic. It's just farts and hand gestures.

2275
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 3: Oh, do the work to keep yourself open to other

2276
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 3: people's magic. These stray cats out there, Luke, they just

2277
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes they just need a good pet in

2278
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 3: a clean bowl.

2279
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 1: But then they want a little more.

2280
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 3: Well, look, I'm not welcoming them into my house or

2281
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 3: into my UNEs, not yet, but I will say that

2282
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 3: I love that, you know. That's why they reach out

2283
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 3: to me and only pipes. That's why I'm shouting out

2284
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 3: people on cameo for their birthdays and stuff. Lu because

2285
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 3: we build a community. You're not ready to embrace that community.

2286
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 1: Listen. I just know that in six months there's gonna

2287
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 1: be pictures of your buttthole circulating on the Internet, and

2288
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really sad about it.

2289
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 3: Depends on my contractegotiation doesn't go as play. And let's

2290
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 3: hear from Andrew. He says, what's up, guys, Congrats on

2291
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty four k subscribers, and in honor

2292
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 3: of BC's love for Kelvin Gasolom and the fact that

2293
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 3: he is fighting at two eight seven, I have included a.

2294
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 1: Meme, Ho, shit, they know you boy?

2295
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 3: Can you read this.

2296
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 1: I know that Gaslum is forty one, and I know

2297
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 1: he's two and seven from VKFC, But Luke, I just

2298
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 1: can't forget that night in Atlanta. I still believe, is

2299
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 1: what I'm telling you. I still believe, dude, this guy

2300
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 1: knows you very well.

2301
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 3: Oh Kelvin Kelvin t popa. Yeah, yeah, thank you. You

2302
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 3: know that's true. I can't run from that, just like

2303
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:36,679
Speaker 3: you know, Luke, you never ran from your ckb love

2304
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 3: of you know, of the respect for those people, you know.

2305
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 3: I mean I follow strawwaights for a reason. Luke research research, Luke.

2306
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 3: Let's go over to that. Alan W to close off

2307
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 3: who has been a rising star in this area. He says,

2308
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:52,560
Speaker 3: I got two photos for you. The first one is

2309
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:54,759
Speaker 3: Luke Thomas is John Vape.

2310
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 1: Oh wow, whatever the vape, I'll vape them, I'll vape

2311
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: them all wow. That is amazing. I look like the

2312
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 1: guy from Harry Potter. Who's that?

2313
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 3: So that's supposed to be Keanu Reeves for John Wick?

2314
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 3: But look, what do you think about the idea of

2315
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:13,680
Speaker 3: not only growing long hair but dying at dark and

2316
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 3: then look at that's what that could be your future?

2317
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 1: Right? I don't want to look like a sad Vegas magician?

2318
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 3: All right? Finally, Alan W says Luke Thomas is now

2319
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:24,799
Speaker 3: going command.

2320
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Oh.

2321
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 3: That's a new film case right there.

2322
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 6: That is.

2323
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:33,680
Speaker 3: Well done, Alan W.

2324
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 1: Look they took a toy and then put my face

2325
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:39,600
Speaker 1: over the top of it. Right, like that's an actual figurine.

2326
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 3: No, I think that's actually Arnold. He's really that Jack, Luke.

2327
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 1: No, that's a toy, Mikey. Is that a toy? Mikey's

2328
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 1: just too busy.

2329
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 3: He's like he's playing dinner tonight at Burger K.

2330
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 1: Mikey, what's your favorite toy in the Happy Meala?

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Speaker 3: There you go, Luke, that's the show. I got to

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Speaker 3: catch a bird back home.

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Speaker 1: And then here's a bird you can catch that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a free bird right there, Luke. Then I'm

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01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 3: going on a little v K. And guess what when

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01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 3: I come back, You're going on a little So we

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01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:15,919
Speaker 3: are really setting up to piss all of our guests.

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Speaker 1: Next, here's the deal, folks. He's got kids. I've got kid,

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01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 1: a kid. We are at the mercy of when the

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01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:25,760
Speaker 1: various public school systems that we have enrolled them in

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01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 1: tell us they have spring break.

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01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 3: My kid's curriculum in ninth grade is pretty intense. Your

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01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 3: daughter at three year old, three schools.

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01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of days early.

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01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:34,679
Speaker 3: But just here's the thing.

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01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. She likes. She likes going. It's really

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01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 1: good for her for.

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01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 3: Her, she's going full time Espanol there right full time.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. I support that. So Luke uh, you will

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01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 3: be as we mentioned you F two eighty seven post

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01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 3: Fight Show Morning Combat channel on YouTube. Don't miss that.

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01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 3: Lucill be called the Prelims Saturday on the Showtime Sports

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01:40:55,280 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 3: YouTube channel for the PBC Cars, Carson, California. And I

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01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 3: think that's about it. Do I have anything to plug?

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01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:07,679
Speaker 1: Friday show will be a special roundtable with me BC

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01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: and Sugar Rashad Evans and when I say this, I'm

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01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,759
Speaker 1: not doing a bit. We did a couple of shoots

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01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 1: with him yesterday. It was the best stuff we've ever

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01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 1: done with Rashad, and honestly, I'll just take the cat

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Speaker 1: of the bag. We did an RSD with him as well.

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Speaker 1: That will not be out Friday, but a special two

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01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 1: day seven preview with Rashot will be on Friday. We

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01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 1: did an RSD with him. It is easily, in my view,

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Speaker 1: the best RSC we've ever done. I think it's the

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01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 1: best Reshot interview you'll ever see, and I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: with how it turned out. It vastly exceeded my expectations,

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01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 1: and I had pretty high expectations. I thought it could

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Speaker 1: be something great. It was so far beyond that and

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Speaker 1: BC the only reason it went that well is because

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Speaker 1: Rashad is so smart, so thoughtful, so humble, so experienced.

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Speaker 1: He really delivered.

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Speaker 3: He does the work to keep himself open to other

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01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 3: people's magic. He does. He does, Yeah, and he's magical.

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01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 3: I think that's magic.

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Speaker 1: I do that by just taking my pants down.

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Speaker 3: And Okay, so you're going to get a pregame preview

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01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 3: with real talk and to have that's the first time

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01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 3: we put re shot in that element and it was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the RSDs that are coming in the future.

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Speaker 3: Over the next week, we'll be releasing a ton of

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01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 3: great content. One of those is that John Annix sit down,

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01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 3: and I think jaa for making time with us. He

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01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:22,759
Speaker 3: was like unfiltered John Anick.

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Speaker 1: It was good for a couple of things he says

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01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 1: in there that caught my attention and I think it

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Speaker 1: will catch your.

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01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you want the inside story on the whole Colby

2389
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 3: Covington beef in the aftermath, He's got that for you too.

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Speaker 3: But I think you're really gonna enjoy John Nix's look,

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01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,680
Speaker 3: who's one of the most meticulous preparer. I mean so

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Speaker 3: it is more Ronalo by the way, another great legend, right,

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01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 3: there's no secret why people end up where they are

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01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 3: with if they're willing to work that hard. But John

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01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 3: Annick takes us through the process behind the scenes and

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Speaker 3: also the lament of his occupational divorce from Brian Stan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, seems like it seems like it was a little

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01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 1: bit more substantive than we all realized.

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Speaker 3: But I'm like John put a ring on that.

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01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's thriving. He's thriving, make no mistake about it.

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01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 3: And also a shout out to Phil Duru over there

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01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 3: at drous On Film. He's building his own empire, one

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01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 3: of the greatest strength coaches in the game today across

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01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 3: all combat sports. We did a wonderful sit down on

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01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 3: his gym and his backstory, which I think will open

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01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 3: up a lot of people's eyes. I really really happy

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01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:12,640
Speaker 3: to see where Phil is at. So thank you for

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01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 3: having us. Thank you CBS Sports for welcoming us. Are

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01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,559
Speaker 3: our boss, Sambo Tesh, Jeff Gertula, Mikey Mormal, all the

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01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 3: great people that took time with us this week. It

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Speaker 3: was a fruitful one for this brand. Luke big fights

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Speaker 3: this weekend. Enjoy them. You know. I hope not to

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01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 3: check my phone much. Look, you you can carry the brand.

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01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 3: You've done it. You know you can do this.

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01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 1: It'll be just I've been doing it for four years.

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01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I gotta eat this Columbian hot dog, Luke.

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01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 3: So why don't you take us out of here?

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01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 1: All right? So, I want to thank everyone who helped

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01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 1: make this trip down here to Miami so successful. So

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01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 1: many things coming your way, as BC indicated, catch me

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01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 1: for the prelimbs on Showtime's YouTube channel, Showtime Sports YouTube channel.

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01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 3: And cash from me outside how about that?

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01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 1: How about that? And then of course live after UFC

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01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 1: two eighty seven, I'll be doing the post fight show

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01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 1: right here at Morning Combat. So for Mikey Morms, everyone

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Speaker 1: at CBS plus Malka in Showtime. That's Brian Campbell. I'm

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Speaker 1: with Thomas. Thank you, Miami, We appreciate it. Until next time,

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Speaker 1: may all of your gains be loyal