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Speaker 1: back to the huddle one of our good friends from

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, Trevor Sekama. Trevor, what's going on, man, John?

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Speaker 1: It is always good to be with you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: It feels like this is the time of year when

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Speaker 1: we actually get to connect news, some content together, get

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Speaker 1: to talk about the NFL Draft, and so it's a

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Speaker 1: wonderful time of the year, my friend. Yeah, and we'll

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Speaker 1: obviously talk many more times after this before the draft here,

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Speaker 1: trev But you know, Giant fans have been involved in

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Speaker 1: the season. Three weeks into January, it's been a while.

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Speaker 1: So this is everyone, at least the people for the

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Speaker 1: Giants Huddle that haven't been tracking our draft podcast draft season.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of their introduction to what the draft

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Speaker 1: is going to look like this year. And we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about the Senior Bowl and Shrine Game as well. So

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Speaker 1: let's start there, Trev, give me an overview of this

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Speaker 1: draft class. You know, it's the depth of it first

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Speaker 1: in terms of blue Chippers, and then once you get

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Speaker 1: quality and depth of the class. Yeah, so blue Chippers.

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Speaker 1: It feels like there's three guys really that everybody looks

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Speaker 1: at as potential blue chip prospects in this class. Jalen Carter,

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Speaker 1: the interior defensive linement from Georgia. Truly one of the

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Speaker 1: most physically gifted players I've ever watched. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: as close to the Dominican Sue as you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: for those for those people who have been following the

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Speaker 1: draft since the Novocansue was coming out, I mean, just

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Speaker 1: like an insane combination of speed, size, and strength, and

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Speaker 1: a guy who should have been up for the Hisman Trophy.

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Speaker 1: Honestly last year had a little bit of a dip

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Speaker 1: he's a blue chip player as well. And then on

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Speaker 1: But nobody here or anywhere can deny how talented Bijan

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Speaker 1: some really good twos. Give me an idea for fans

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Speaker 1: like it's gonna be that much difference, Trevor. To my

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Speaker 1: you know you mentioned Charlie Jones and Tank Dell is

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Speaker 1: And then quarterbacks too, right, I mean like it always

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Speaker 1: people like Jaren Hall, the quarterback from b y U.

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Speaker 1: He's just got a lot of a lot of armed talent,

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl Shrine Bowl, they got plenty of prospects. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be moving up and down the draft board all

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Speaker 1: weekend long, and so it's gonna be a great week,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. It should be a lot of fun. It'll

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Speaker 1: be good Senior after Chave, we'll catch up again out

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Speaker 1: there and I'll see at the Combine as usual. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: draft season and we'll catch up with you down the road.

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