1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Pacificoffice dot Com. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown. Wanna throw by 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray facing pressure Connor to the five and end 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: of the end zone for the touchdown. 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Underground presented by Pacific Office Automation. Visit 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Pacificofice dot com. Problem solved Harrison. 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 3: Guys for the en zone, he said, touchdown. 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: the team. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: Touchdown, Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 4: Oh that was nasty right there. 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: Rights slam the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo. 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 4: I ain't scared of nobody. 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: Here's Paul calvic see. 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: I'm conflicted and maybe even a little confused. Off the 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: top of your Cardinals on the Ground brought you Pacific 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: Office Automation. How can I polyparental unit tell the teenagers 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: to stay off social media, especially in the month of 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: July when it's smoking hot in the az And now 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: we're going to spend the next episode here talking about 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: what social media. 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 4: To be fair, this was social media that never actually happened. 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: Even better, so more social media it's. 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 4: It's it's pretend, it's pretend. 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: It's wishing there was more social media, Danny Sirek, Is 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: that correct in a sense? 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: Kind of? 30 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: I mean we're talking about in the past. 31 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: Okay, So we're framing sports and Cardinals history and some 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: other history, okay, in the context of what if if 33 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: only there was social media when this happened, and then 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: we're going to fill in the blank and then speculate accordingly. 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: The range we discussed of was like nineteen eighty eight 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: to two thousand and nine range things that happened that 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: social media was either not around for or not nearly 38 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: as big and popular as it is now. And what 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: events do we think could have been amplified in one 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: way or another if social media had been around. 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 4: And we picked nineteen eighty eight because that's when the 42 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: Cardinals moved to Arizona, so that seemed like a good 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: start date. We're not going to start talking about, hey, 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 4: what if social media had been around in nineteen forty 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 4: seven when the Cardinals won the championship Charlie Trippy. 46 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: We're not how many clicks with Charlie tripping not. 47 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 4: Doing that, so like you and it's a little bit 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: of a I mean, we asked Danny to really stretch 49 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: here because she wasn't around for part of that timeframe. 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: My older sister wasn't around for part of that timeframe. 51 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: Point well taken. 52 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: All right, he's done of a biscuit. 53 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: All right, here we go, Miss eighteen to thirty four demo. 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: Why don't you bad lead off? Since this is your 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: concept anyway, We'll start with a Cardinals event that that 56 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: we wish or you know, would have been featured in 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: social media. 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: What if I actually learned this from a Cardinal's folktales 59 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: that we put out within the last couple of years. 60 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: I'm telling you to watch them to September seventh, nineteen 61 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: ninety seven. Do you know where I'm going with this, Paul? 62 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 3: I know you still probably haven't started prepping for wise Guy. 63 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: So that's okay. 64 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: September seven, ninety seven. 65 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 4: Well, he was actually in that folk tale is quite 66 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: a bit. 67 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: Actually I covered this game. It was Jake Plumber and Company, 68 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: and it was the season opener and helped me out 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: from there. 70 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: Okay, Cardinals beat the Cowboys twenty five, twenty two Sun 71 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: Devil Stadium after thirteen consecutive losses to the Cowboys. But 72 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: what I wish social media would have been around for 73 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: at that time would have been when the fans took 74 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: down the goalposts and took it to Millave. Because we 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: don't see this often, and when we see it now, 76 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: it's it's mostly in college football. It is incredible. Now, 77 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: if you're dry, you're walking in some sense, I had 78 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: imagine it's absolutely horrible. How are you supposed to get 79 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: around when you've got thousands of people surrounding you and 80 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: these goalposts that are social media, though, it is riveting 81 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: when you're seeing all the different angles and people are 82 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: putting the photos, they're juxtaposing it on other things, and 83 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 3: people get really creative. That to me is something so 84 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: fun that even if you want to be a bit 85 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: of like a fun sucker, you can still understand the 86 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: fun behind tearing down goalposts after a huge win for 87 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: your team, storming the field and then taking them out 88 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 3: to the city. 89 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: I mean, that's the thing is if social media had 90 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 4: been around, you're assuming that phone camera phones will will 91 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: have been out there, and you know that everybody would 92 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 4: have been filming. 93 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: That whole family would have been live streaming down on 94 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: the way. 95 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 4: We would have had video all the way down Mill Avenue, 96 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: and that's just that would be crazy. Like again, this 97 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: is one of the things we liked about this exercises. 98 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: It wasn't necessarily a whole game, but that that small 99 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: window of like the goalpost coming down and going down 100 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: the street, that would have been crazy. I didn't even think. 101 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna assume neither of you participated in that. 102 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: No, that was before my Cardinals time, believe it or not. 103 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: I wish I was down in that field working at 104 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: Channel CINCO and boom, We're on the field and it's 105 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: chaos and they win and we're interviewing players. Back in 106 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: the day, you could do that. You could actually bum 107 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: rush guy, especially after a win. And then all of 108 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: a sudden, wait a minute, head on a swivel. There 109 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 2: goes the goalpost out the far end of the stadium. 110 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: And we had two photographers and one tried to chase 111 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: it down and I'm trying to remember how much video 112 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: they got. They did get a little bit of video 113 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: of it going down Mill Avenue and then ultimately ended 114 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: up in the dry riverbed in the Salt River, and 115 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: so it was either Ricky Bogran or Jim Escobido. Shout 116 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: out to one of you, two guys, because somebody chased 117 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: that down back in the day. That's fantastic with a 118 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: big beta cam on their shoulders. It was weighing about 119 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 2: fifty pounds. 120 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: These days, Paul would have just put in his speed, 121 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: his safety speed and chased it down with his own phone. 122 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: Okay, that begs for a segue, Darren, what do you 123 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: have here? 124 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: So I happened to be part of this. Now, when 125 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: it first happened, it probably wouldn't have been on social media, 126 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 4: but the conversation around it absolutely would have been. Which 127 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: is the day that Dave McGinnis told myself and Kent 128 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 4: Summers and Mike Dreki pulled us into a back room 129 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 4: and said Pat Tillman isn't going to resign here because 130 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 4: he's joining the army, And I think to myself, And 131 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 4: then there was obviously multiple times where we could talk 132 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 4: about Pat Tillman's story being ended up on social media, 133 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: but I'm gonna choose this one, which was the positive 134 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: one where he decided to join the military. But holy cat, 135 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 4: like when we were hearing this. I unfortunately worked for 136 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 4: a newspaper at the time that was not in the Internet. 137 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: It didn't have a website, so I literally couldn't get 138 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: the news out there until the next morning. Wow, the 139 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 4: Republic was in the baby stages of a website and 140 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: Mike Director could go right on the radio, so I 141 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 4: was a little behind. But still it was a huge story. 142 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: And I just keep thinking to myself, as soon as 143 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: we're done racing to our twitters and like being able 144 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: to say this, and who knows, because if social media 145 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 4: had been a thing, maybe Dave McGinnis isn't pulling us in. 146 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: It's the Arizona Cardinal's official account announcing that he's going 147 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 4: in there, so it might have played out differently. But 148 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: I just imagine the reaction on so many different levels 149 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: of what people would be saying about a NFL football 150 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 4: player turning down a three year contract for significant money 151 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: at the time to join the Army. 152 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can go on YouTube and find Tom Broke on, 153 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: Peter Jennings and all the news anchors of the day. 154 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: It led the Network News. It was a certified mind 155 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: blow that Pat Tillman was going to join the Army 156 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: and pursue a spot on the Rangers. 157 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 4: Dave McGinnis told us, And the next words out of 158 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: his after he said he's joined the army was there 159 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: and you can close your mouth now because my jaw 160 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: literally dropped. My mouth was open. 161 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: Wow. Well, speaking to Tillman, I will go. Mine would 162 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: be the ninety eight playoff win at Dallas. 163 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: That's a good one. 164 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: Just the before and after the Cardinals leaving Sky Harbor 165 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: and there's five hundred fans out there, the Cardinals returning 166 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,119 Speaker 2: to Sky Harbor in the middle of the night, five 167 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: thousand fans waiting for the team playing Redbird won to land. 168 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: The video we could have obtained of all the Cowboys 169 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: fans filing out of the stadium, out of Texas Stadium 170 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: late in the fourth quarter, and then all the Bird 171 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: gang behind the Cardinals bench as if they had planned 172 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: the flag and taken over the stadium. 173 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 4: And what you're talking about is multi leveled, because if 174 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 4: there were social media, we certainly know that half the 175 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 4: conversation would have been beating down the Cowboys for losing 176 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 4: to the lowly Cardinals in the playoffs. And Troy Aikman 177 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: and Dion Sanders and etc. Like what happened there? How 178 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 4: did you let that happen? Yep? 179 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 2: I mean there would have been, for example, locker room 180 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: video of a beaming mister b with the game ball 181 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: because Vince Tobin awarded him the game ball for the 182 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: cardinals first playoff win in nearly a half century, and 183 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: just this smile on his face when the media was 184 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: allowed in and he was standing there and just looking, 185 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: you know, sort of like a proud parent. At the 186 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: entire locker room there was a jubilation of young guys 187 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: like Jake Plummer who knew how to celebrate a win. 188 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: And then there was still the intensity on the face 189 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: of a Pat Tillman talking about that. I mean it 190 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: was his rookie year and he was already you know, 191 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: one of the heart beats of that team. Not only 192 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: a Tyron Matthew as a rookie, he was that kind 193 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: of guy. So yeah, that would have played real well 194 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: on social media. 195 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure, even just locker room footage postgame of speeches 196 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 3: and everything like that. 197 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 4: Again, I think what we're what we've all hit on 198 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 4: here is the social media component of It's not necessarily 199 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: something that happens directly on the field. That really resonates 200 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: with social media. 201 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: Right. How about a sports event, non football, non Cardinals 202 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: that you think would have played real well. 203 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: Ooh, I had some trouble deciding on one. Here I 204 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: am keeping us in the year nineteen ninety seven. We 205 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: are changing sports game five. It is tied to two, 206 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: the very famous Michael Jordan flu game, thirty eight points. 207 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: They beat Utah, solidified his clutchness. I can only imagine 208 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 3: the photos that we have from that. I mean, if 209 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: you had seen all of that in real time, I 210 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 3: will say that is a good example though, of something 211 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: I love, which is when you go back and you 212 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: see video footage or photos and you look in the 213 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: stands and there's not a cell phone in sight because 214 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,239 Speaker 3: people that have cell phone and so everybody, their undivided 215 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 3: attention is on the moment and what is happening in 216 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: front of them. And I understand nowadays you want to 217 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: capture your own content, right, you want to say that 218 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 3: there's something just so different and so special about savoring 219 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: the moment, being present with the people near you and 220 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: whether or not you know them, and just enjoying that together. 221 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 3: And that is just a great example of all of that. 222 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: Would that be great for social media. Heck yeah, that 223 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: is something that came to mind, just the clutchness. 224 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 4: And again when we're talking about levels, how much discussion 225 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 4: Jordan hater because you know, there would have been Jordan 226 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 4: haters because just like LEBRONI, there would. 227 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: Have been they would have had the outlet to hate. 228 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 4: How many people were going to be talking about I'm 229 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 4: the one who spit in his pizza or it wasn't 230 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: really the flu. 231 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: We don't need to talk about skip baylists around here, Dren. 232 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: You don't need to bring him up. 233 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 4: Okay, I like that idea. 234 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: All right, what about yours? A sports EVN non cardinals. 235 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: I'm going to go with a somewhat obvious one that 236 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: hits local but definitely as national reach. Luis Gonzalez's two 237 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: thousand and one game winner. Sure, you're beating the Yankees, 238 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: so it's a national brand. It's the World Series Game seven, 239 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 4: so it's a national brand. Were a month out, well 240 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 4: two months out by then, of nine to eleven. There 241 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 4: was so much emotion tied up into that World Series. 242 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: Giving up a couple of. 243 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: First of all, that whole World Series would have lived 244 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: on social media in terms of virality, but but the 245 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: hit itself to win the game. Again, people would be 246 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 4: talking about, oh wait, the greatest relief pitcher in the 247 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 4: history of the game, choked or whatever, and Mad Yankees 248 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 4: fans and there's again, there's so much plays into that 249 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: one moment that would work on the video and then 250 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 4: like there's tentacles to it to like all these other 251 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 4: social things that could have come out of that moment 252 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: that I think would have been fascinating. And again, that 253 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: was a moment, just like the flu game, like there's 254 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: enough out there that it still lives well enough, Like 255 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: there's some things that you could talk about we've missed 256 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 4: socially because it would have been awesome to have people 257 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 4: filming it because there just isn't enough. The goal post 258 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 4: coming down that would have been cool to have on 259 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 4: social because there's not a lot there there. But like 260 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: these all the things, there's enough video out there that 261 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 4: you can piece it together now, but still to see 262 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: people reacting in the moment would have been cool. 263 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 3: I do think that's part of the reason why the 264 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: Last Dance during when did that come out twenty twenty 265 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. 266 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: One, during the pandemic, it was I think that's. 267 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 3: Why everybody was so hooked on it was because if 268 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 3: to a certain degree there is limited footage, you don't 269 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: have thousands and thousands of people who have their own 270 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: angles and can provide their own take. That's why everybody 271 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: was so drawn in, was because you were limited to 272 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: what you could see from what was going on back then. 273 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: Go with baseball for mine, and I don't even need 274 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: to look it up. October seventeenth, nineteen eighty nine, five 275 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: oh four PM, The A's and Giants World Series. The 276 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: earthquake game. 277 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 4: I thought about that one. 278 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: And yours truly was in the Bay Area. It was 279 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: in college. I was actually in a safe way and 280 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: I put Express into Express lane when the isle was 281 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: in came down and it was the jar Good isle. 282 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: Because I was I was cooking for my three roommates 283 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: in college. Don't tell no to KELVYC. I was buying 284 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: jarred sauce and I was gonna make pasta that night, 285 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, down came the aisle and 286 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: I ran a four two forty straight out and uh everything, 287 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: lights went out, stuff crashing down, people screaming, and uh, 288 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: we knew it was bad. I had no idea how 289 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: bad it was, though, because there wasn't really no such 290 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: thing as ke There wasn't even the Internet at that point, 291 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: was there. So you're relying I go back, I go 292 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: back to the our place dump and I turned on 293 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: the TV and it's Snow, next channel, Snow, next channel, Snow. Finally, 294 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: there's one channel that's on the air auxiliary lighting in 295 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: a newsroom and it's the CBS affiliate, and their chopper 296 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: was in the air for traffic, and so they actually 297 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: had still had a link. And then that's when you 298 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: saw the iconic shot of the Bay Bridge and it's down, 299 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: and that's when you realize how bad it was. All 300 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: the phone service was down. It was epicenter about five 301 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: miles from my parents' house in Santa Cruz. Couldn't get 302 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: hold of them for three hours. No idea, no idea, 303 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: And so anyway, that's the one I'll go with. And 304 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: without social media, the entire world basically was relying on 305 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: Al Michaels, who did a phenomenal job anchoring all the 306 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: news coverage from the TV booth, and one of his 307 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: competitive advantages was the fact he used to be the 308 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: Giants announcer, so he knew the Bay Area like the 309 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: back of his hand. Anyway, he ended up getting an 310 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: Emmy for that for live news coverage and we deserved it. 311 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: That was amazing. And to have it tied around a 312 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: sporting event that crazy. 313 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so there we go. Now let's see nonsports as 314 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: an X category. 315 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: You guys are not beating me here. 316 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: If only social media existed. 317 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: This is why we came up with the idea. 318 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: Just so you know the conception of this podcast episode. 319 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: I was in the back room and I was just 320 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: blabbing away to Darren and I said this like out 321 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: of nowhere, and he looks at me. He goes, oh, 322 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 3: that that's a great podcast episode idea. It is still 323 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: semi sports related nineteen ninety four, anything bigger than the 324 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 3: two hour police chase with oj Simpson. I don't think so. 325 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: No, No, you're absolutely right. 326 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: I mean, and I don't. I don't bring this up 327 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: as it would be funny on social media. I'm not 328 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: saying this to be disrespectful of the families, right, I'm 329 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: not saying it in that sense, but just again, the 330 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: footage of if you're sitting in your car on the 331 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: highway and your live streaming or taking videos or whatever 332 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: that might be. I think the coverage would have been insane. 333 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: The coverage was insane. He wouldn't have social. 334 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 3: Media, you know, like just a Heisman winner. Everyone would 335 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: have been out of their. 336 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 2: Minds just his notoriety. I mean he was he was 337 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: a national broadcaster. So was that viral without social media? 338 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 4: I think it was. 339 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 2: It really was. 340 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 4: I think it was. 341 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 2: It might have been the really first legitimate viral video instance. 342 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: Without social media. 343 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: What you would have had is just a lot more 344 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 4: commentary with what was already going on because all the 345 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 4: news stations were showing it anyways. But you would have 346 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 4: had everybody piling on. You would have had definitely some 347 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 4: absolutely inappropriate people piling on. But I think because we 348 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: lived through it, obviously, I was on a date bowling 349 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 4: with my wife to be in Flagstaff, Arizona that night, 350 00:17:55,119 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 4: I I think that the I think the amount was 351 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: crazy anyways. And to think if social media was in it, 352 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: and what you're not including in there is when that 353 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: was going down, there was also an NBA Finals game 354 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 4: going on at the same time. That's the other thing 355 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 4: that social really would have like run with sure, yep. 356 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 4: So that's that's always a good one, you know. Unfortunately 357 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: some of these moments are not the best. And I 358 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 4: like how you picked the that as opposed to something 359 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 4: else attached to that. But the slow speed chase, I 360 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 4: mean Rob Prez, the NBA, the NBA tweet guy who 361 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 4: also all does all the Birds in the Air live 362 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: streaming of if he if he finds out there's a 363 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 4: especially in California, there's a cart police chase, he puts 364 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 4: it on. He streams on that. Those are just normal ones. 365 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: I can't imagine what he do with OJR. 366 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: What do you have, Darren? 367 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: I am also going with nineteen ninety four, Hell of 368 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 4: a year. Nineteen ninety four, Hey. 369 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: That's when I was born. Straight year. 370 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 4: You barely miss some stuff. How about Nancy Carrigan getting 371 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: her knee bashed it before the Olympics, I mean I 372 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: can't And and again partially how it plays out, because 373 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: you would have the original thing, which the video existed, 374 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 4: of the why why right after it happened. But you'd 375 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 4: have the original thing, you'd have everybody tweeting about it, 376 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: you'd have people trying to figure out and then as 377 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 4: it played out, I mean I'm talking about the moment 378 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 4: it happened, but as it played out, people tweeting about 379 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 4: and then the day harding got connected to it, everybody 380 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 4: would be like, what the heck's going on? And then 381 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 4: even further down the road, when she gets she's allowed 382 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 4: to go skate anyways, I'm like that that whole thing. 383 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: You can't write a crazier script than that. 384 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't remember games I covered, but I 385 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: remember Jeff Galuli, right. 386 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: Jeff Galue Hell yeah. 387 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that's uh all right, what's yours? 388 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: Polly Grunge music? 389 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 4: Oh that's a yeah. 390 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: It would have been good. But you know, just more 391 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: from the perspective of grunge saved us from the hairbands. 392 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: You know, no more Cinderella and White Snake and I 393 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: don't know, Dowkin and Poison. You know, I mean, America 394 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: needed to change. 395 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 4: America bands. I'm going to tell you. 396 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: Deserved to change, earned to change. And so grunge was there. 397 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 4: You know, I thought you were going to go the 398 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 4: very specific because one of the ones I did consider 399 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 4: was Kurt Kobain. 400 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, uh so there you go. That's that's the 401 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 2: one I would I would go with. 402 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 4: That's a big one. Would have been change, although there 403 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 4: is enough. 404 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 2: If you go to YouTube and you can go down 405 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: a rabbit hole, you can find a lot of good 406 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 2: stuff early Pearl Jam and Alison Chains and Nirvana from 407 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: clubs back in the day, and it's crazy. I don't know. 408 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 2: You don't make me put on the flannel. Okay, here 409 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 2: we go. Uh, now we come back. We'll bookend it 410 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 2: with a Cardinals event that would have played out really 411 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: well or been prominent on social media. 412 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: This one, I'm hoping doesn't upset people listening because it 413 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 3: still technically fits within the framework of what we are 414 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: talking about. I'm taking us to the end of the timeline, 415 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: February of two thousand and nine. I would actually love 416 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: to see what the two of you looked like covering 417 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl for the Cardinals. 418 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: What was it. 419 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 4: It would have been January of nine. I don't look 420 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 4: a whole lot. 421 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 3: Different, had a little more hair, You had a little 422 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 3: more hair on your face. I would have loved to 423 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: have seen the stress levels from Darren in the press box, 424 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 3: because I'm sure they were just astronomical. 425 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 4: Okay, you want to talk about stress levels. It's funny 426 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 4: because in the in the NFC Championship game, the Cardinals. 427 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 4: This is before teams were aligned with the NFL in 428 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 4: terms of the hubs of the servers for all the websites, 429 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 4: which is what we are now. In those days, teams 430 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 4: had did their own thing with their websites, and right 431 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 4: as the NFC Championship game ended, Theasycardinals dot Com crashed 432 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 4: and was out for like oh into the next oh. 433 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 4: I did not know that, so none of my coverage 434 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: from the NFC Championship game was able to be read. 435 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 4: We would have had a well, that's everybody was coming 436 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 4: to our website and it just crashed. 437 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: Danny my famous story. Let's see if I can do 438 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: this in thirty seconds or less. You want stress levels. 439 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: Pash wolf Ley and yours truly were on the last 440 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: Cardinals bus over to the stadium from the hotel, and 441 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: of course we're away in the back and this is 442 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, this is Super Bowl Sunday. 443 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 4: Yep. 444 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: I've never ever been on a bus ride anywhere close 445 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: to the tension and anxiety and stress that was prominent 446 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: on that bus. You could cut it with a knife 447 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: and everyone knew it, and the last guy in the 448 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 2: bus and I have no idea if this was by 449 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: design was Kurt Warner, and he walked on and almost 450 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: every guy was in a suit. Kurt was not using 451 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: like slacks and a shirt sort of a Florida colorful shirt. 452 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: Just gets on without a care in the world. How's 453 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: it going, guys, how's it going? And everyone in that 454 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: bus said, oh, yeahquarterback's been here, Our quarterback's done this, 455 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: and the whole bus exhaled at once. I swear everyone 456 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: exhaled and okay, and he that's the sort of leader 457 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 2: he was that season for that team. Let's see, all right, 458 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 2: and I'll go speaking of those days, I'll go with 459 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: the whole Danny Green meltdown, which was borderline viral as 460 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: it was, but the Bears, who are they? And then 461 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: they played on a loop on Sports Center and everything 462 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 2: else where people consumed all their media. But can you 463 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: imagine how long it would have taken for that to 464 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: take so many different derivatives of the Danny Green and 465 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: banging the podium and then maybe, just maybe I would 466 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: have had video of for those who don't know, his 467 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 2: next stop when he exits through the door is to 468 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 2: meet the hapless pencil neck radio guy who was on 469 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: the other side of that door. Yours truly, And then 470 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: you want to talk about swallowing hard and stress level 471 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: and doing a live in the moment postgame interview with 472 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: a head coach who had just you know, pounded the postodium. 473 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. My last one is 474 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: also everybody knows. But I just think it would have 475 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 4: been fantastic to see socially. Is mccount apool. The end 476 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: of the two thousand and three season, the Cardinals on 477 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 4: one play had a crazy play number one, knocked the 478 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 4: Vikings out of the playoffs, cost themselves to the number 479 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 4: one overall pick, although it ended up going number three 480 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 4: and they got Larry Fitzgerald. And this is all in 481 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 4: one thing. And when you combine the play itself knocking 482 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 4: a team out of the playoffs and Paul Allen, the 483 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 4: Minnesota Vikings play by play guy, having his call which 484 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 4: is famous, infamous, all of the above, I think that 485 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 4: just would have that really could have that would have 486 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 4: gone viral on about seven levels. 487 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: Did you have a two quick notes? 488 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: One? 489 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: Paul, you were talking earlier the Cardinals and Cowboys playoff 490 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: game in nineteen ninety eight. My dad was there, so wow, 491 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: how about that? I also, I do have two honorable 492 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: mentions that I really want to mention. I'm not going 493 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 3: to go into depth about him because we already did that. 494 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: I just want you guys to know what I really 495 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 3: struggle with keeping and cutting out, similar to the Oj 496 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: Simpson of not really sports but still involving an athlete. 497 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: One of my honorable mentions two thousand and nine the 498 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: Tiger Woods cheating scandal. Again not in the sense to 499 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 3: make fun of what was going on. I just remember 500 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 3: as a kid flipping through People magazine and seeing pictures 501 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: of the car crash at two thirty in the morning 502 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 3: outside his house when Woods drove into the tree and 503 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: the fire hydrant and his wife at the time, Elin 504 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 3: was using the. 505 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: Club and she sandwich. 506 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was breaking down the back window to get 507 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 3: him out. And it was the timing of all of 508 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 3: his official affairs that were coming out. That's something that 509 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: was right before social media really getting big. And the 510 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 3: other which I cut was the nineteen ninety seven this 511 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: is kind of all the same nineteen ninety seven ninety 512 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: eight range, which was the Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinski. 513 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that would have been something that was honorable 514 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 4: mention for me. The one thing that a Cardinals won. 515 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 4: I had a couple quick ones. I had you mentioned 516 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 4: Jordan the Flu game. I'm going a little bit earlier 517 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 4: than that. But the Jordan over Craig e Low in 518 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: eighty nine to beat him in the best of five, 519 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 4: that was really his first. He did have the sixty 520 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 4: three point playoff game against the Celtics, but they lost 521 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 4: that series three to one. That shot over the Cows 522 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: was really the first moment where Jordan really like he 523 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 4: had been great in the regular season. That was his 524 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 4: first huge playoff moment, and obviously he just trended up 525 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 4: from there and then the Cardinals won. I know Larry 526 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 4: Fitzgerald had an amazing playoffs in two thousand and eight, 527 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 4: but I keep thinking to myself as far as a 528 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 4: game and the stage, the NFC Championship game, the Twitter 529 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: verse going crazy over Larry Fitzgerald and the way he'd 530 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 4: played all through the playoffs, and then what he did 531 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 4: to the Eagles in the NFC Championship Game would have 532 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 4: been off the I mean he would have been He 533 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 4: would have been called a god about seventy two times. 534 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: And there is video that exists of this. But the 535 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: number of grown men and women who were crying enjoy 536 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: at State Farm Stadium. Longtime Cardinals fans literally moved to tears, 537 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: grown men and women, and no one left the stadium 538 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 2: for like an hour after the end of the game. 539 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 2: Just the celebration and the confetti falling and the volume 540 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 2: is still the loudest sporting event I've ever covered. 541 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 4: So jim O Mahundro, our fine producer, had a couple 542 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 4: of throw ins. We won't talk about these a lot, 543 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 4: but we do want to mention them. The Dream Team, 544 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 4: the Basketball dream Team in ninety two, that's a great one. 545 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 4: The fall of the Berlin Wall in eighty nine. I 546 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 4: actually had that as my nonsports one for a while 547 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 4: before I changed to the Carrigan one. That's that's that's 548 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 4: so huge, and it would have been international. 549 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: Even the home run Chase McGuire and Sosa Yea, even 550 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: just McGuire's like pregame batting practice sessions which were epic, 551 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 2: and he sent one at Chase Field out one of 552 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 2: the panels, I mean, out of this stadium. Stuff like that. 553 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 4: So I think it's interesting Amo included all these famous 554 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 4: TV shows signing off Cheers, Seinfeld friends like that would 555 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 4: have been a viral moment too. 556 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think people just sharing what they thought of 557 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 3: the series finales. 558 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 4: Especially in those days when TV wasn't busted up like 559 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 4: it is now and it wasn't all streaming. It was 560 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 4: literally you're you're still on the four channels. 561 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: Well, and also like you couldn't pause, right, you had 562 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: to start on time, you had to wait to go 563 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 3: to the bathroom until commercial. 564 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 4: You could tape it on your VCR and then fast 565 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 4: forward through the commercials. You could what's. 566 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 2: The famous saying about the Seinfeld Show. It's a show 567 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: about nothing, all right. Don't let that be said about 568 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: this edition of Cardinals Underground. 569 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 4: I also do I. 570 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: Also do want to say, if we have sparked any 571 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: sort of answers of your own, I do think that 572 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: could be really cool. 573 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 4: To send them along to me and Danny and Paul 574 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 4: and we will social. 575 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: Media Darren's mailbag, he'll see him, I mean wherever. I 576 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: think that could be a fun conversation. 577 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 4: Ye mentioned something on YouTube. 578 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll be why. Yeah, there you go. 579 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 4: All right. 580 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. I'm not gonna lie. I was a 581 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: little skeptical, but you guys brought it home and once again, 582 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: and this happens with regularity on Cardinals Underground, brought to 583 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: you by Pacific Office Automation. I am proven wrong.