WEBVTT - Hour 1 - Mike Florio (02-06-20)

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Patrick. Welcome to the program. Already in progress. As

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<v Speaker 1>I was walking in getting ready to turn on the microphone,

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<v Speaker 1>McLevin goes, you know a fashion trend that I really

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem with, And I go and then I

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<v Speaker 1>close the door. McLevin, do you want to expound upon

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<v Speaker 1>that the fashion trend that you really are bothered by? So,

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<v Speaker 1>when the Danets took over South Beach last week, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all the young hipsters are wearing white sneakers instead of

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<v Speaker 1>dark sneakers. Okay, And first of all, I don't look

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<v Speaker 1>good at white sneakers. And second of all, they get

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<v Speaker 1>dirty so fast that I feel like this is a

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<v Speaker 1>fashion investment that I cannot afford to make. Okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>that really bothers you. Yes, the white sneaker trend bothers me. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize to the audience for pausing and listening to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was something dramatic. You should have fought

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<v Speaker 1>stay in there. Yes, Dan, I checked moments ago GEQ

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<v Speaker 1>because Andrew mentioned this, and it's been a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years now that the dark jeans white sneakers thing has

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<v Speaker 1>been popular and h but he's got a point. Keeping

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<v Speaker 1>them clean seems like a brutal thing. I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>guy on our staff who had brand new sneakers visible.

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<v Speaker 1>They were clean, gorgeous, but by the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>week they looked like he'd rolled him down a flight

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<v Speaker 1>of stairs. Okay, that's it, all right, back to you,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, okay, welcome to the program. As I said

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<v Speaker 1>already in prog Grass. Coming up, we'll talk to Richard Roper,

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<v Speaker 1>film critic for the Chicago Sun Times. The Academy Awards

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<v Speaker 1>coming up this weekend. Steve Levy from the Mothership, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>drop by and we'll check in with Mike Florio from

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Talk, as it remains a little bit vague

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<v Speaker 1>with Joe Burrow in the Cincinnati Bengals. I know we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this yesterday. I heard from the Bengal fans

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe Burrow's dad has talked about the Bengals going

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<v Speaker 1>number one. Mike Florio wrote about this as well, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk to Florio. Also, Yes, Steve Levy. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>big black shoes with a suit, black sneakers with a

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<v Speaker 1>white bottom, is that cool in your mind? That's what

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in ESPN wears, those Kohan blacks. Oh yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>I started to see that with Howie Long and Michael

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<v Speaker 1>straighthand where you could go casual in the bottom and

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<v Speaker 1>then you could be dressing up top. Yeah, Paul, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching Fox and ESPN on Saturday and Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>and all the anchors are wearing like nice sneakers, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're definitely like sketcher type sneakers where they're dark with suits,

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<v Speaker 1>which looks horrendous because you should wear dress shoes with

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<v Speaker 1>a suit. Do you think like a dress shoes company.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the best ones are. Coolhan should

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<v Speaker 1>put a shoe that's got more of a grippy bottom

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<v Speaker 1>instead of a slippy bottom, and then you can have

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<v Speaker 1>a nice dress shoe and look like a gentleman. It's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a chefter the other day. He's got this

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars suit on and a pair of sketchers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you'd be surprised how much those shoes cost. They

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<v Speaker 1>may not look like they cost a lot, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you look bad, it ruins the whole out. Yeah. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the new look though, that you have these like

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<v Speaker 1>colorful shoes. So you could have like a blue suede

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can have like green or yellow or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the sole of the shoe. They're good looking shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not meant to be warm with a suit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you want to be comfortable. I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they're going for. Yes, then you wouldn't be wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a suit, right, No, your shoes are comfortable while you're

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a shoe if you're standing on your feet, like

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<v Speaker 1>those NFL analysts are for like your four hours a day.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, then you want to be comfortable. I though

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna say thirty or four minutes. Well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>NFL analyst is really standing on the seat for four hours. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>during the Super Bowl coverage they are. Yes, mclough. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you've talked about it, but what was on the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom when you're doing Sports Center for all those years? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we wore pants. There were times we wore shorts, and

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<v Speaker 1>then somebody took a wide shot of the Sports Center

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<v Speaker 1>set and somebody had shorts on and that ruined it

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody. Then we had we got yelled at and

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<v Speaker 1>said you got to wear you must wear pants. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>that meeting where you come in and we want you

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<v Speaker 1>to wear pants. You don't normally hear that from your boss,

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<v Speaker 1>but we did that at ESPN. Yeah, who decided it

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<v Speaker 1>was unprofessional or not a good look for the company

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<v Speaker 1>to have to if you were wearing sweats or not

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<v Speaker 1>to look slovenly, but something comfortable. You're talking Bucks ninety three,

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<v Speaker 1>Raptors eighty eight or four two cubs. Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be in a sports back in the tie,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's Sports Center or a studio show or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does it have to be well dressing well? You

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<v Speaker 1>want to be presentable, you're on TV, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be perfect national. I mean, it is a place of business.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to look like a slab. But they

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<v Speaker 1>are coaches that some dress up in some like a belochie,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not. They're not reporters, they're not at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people anchors, They're coaches. They can dress like that if

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<v Speaker 1>they want to. Would would it? Boy? Would it bother?

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<v Speaker 1>You would? Would you think the average would be uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>if people on TV talking sports weren't in a jacket

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<v Speaker 1>and tie or in like all dressed up. How do

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<v Speaker 1>we get you know what? I apologize I got on

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<v Speaker 1>this topic that I don't know if the only problem

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<v Speaker 1>I have is when you see a golf event and

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a shoot and tie. That's where you should

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<v Speaker 1>be in a golf shirt if you're covering golf. I

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<v Speaker 1>always thought that that was awkward. You'd be out there

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<v Speaker 1>in a suit and tie instead of a golf shirt

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<v Speaker 1>when you're covering the sport, and you'll see that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when they go to Nick Faldo and Sara, Nick Faudo

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<v Speaker 1>and Jim Nanson, they got a shooting tie on, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least they have a sport coat in the tie,

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<v Speaker 1>and I always feel that's awkward at a at a

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<v Speaker 1>golf event. Already, if you got a chance to watch

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs victory pray, you probably notice one player who

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit louder than everybody else, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was tight end Travis Kelsey. He's become the unofficial party

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<v Speaker 1>starter for the World Champs and he's reminiscent of Rob Gronkowski.

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<v Speaker 1>You might call it at the Gronk effect, and Kelsey

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<v Speaker 1>and Gronk are actually the same exact age. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was the former Patriot who really introduced the concept of

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<v Speaker 1>the highly visible party tight end. When you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, down through the years there have been great

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends, but you know Mike Ditka after his playing career,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know John Mackie was a wonderful tight end,

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<v Speaker 1>Kellen Winslow, but Gronk was the guy who came out

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<v Speaker 1>and said, I'm basically the personality on this team. And

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, tight ends were known for blocking

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<v Speaker 1>and occasionally catching passes. Now, when you think of a team,

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<v Speaker 1>you always you know, you start with the quarterback and

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<v Speaker 1>then you a lot of these teams. You look at

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<v Speaker 1>the tight end, you know, look at the Ravens. They

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<v Speaker 1>had three tight ends this year. San Francisco and Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City both had very very good tight ends. So the

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<v Speaker 1>personality the tight ends, it feels like the tight ends

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<v Speaker 1>are to take over for wide receivers and get into

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<v Speaker 1>the Hey notice us personalities, and certainly with Travis Kelsey

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<v Speaker 1>and Rob Grunkowski leading the way, it's become one of

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<v Speaker 1>the more fan friendly groups in the NFL. It was

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<v Speaker 1>fun yesterday for the Kansas City Chiefs seeing the victory parade.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, parades have changed a lot over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where it got to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>you go, give me that microphone. I can say whatever

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<v Speaker 1>I want to because I'm liquored up and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember alcohol being involved in a lot of these parades

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. But you know, you're seeing you know, the cavaliers,

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<v Speaker 1>guys got their shirt saw I mean, it's there's no

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<v Speaker 1>decorum whatsoever. It feels like Kansas City was a little

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<v Speaker 1>more modest than what the Philadelphia Eagles had. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was another Kelsey brother in there too, who was leading

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<v Speaker 1>the charge. But it feels like you give somebody a mic.

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<v Speaker 1>We just want a championship. Who cares if there's mothers

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<v Speaker 1>children in the crowd. Maybe it's say in fact, they

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<v Speaker 1>would say mothers. That's what you had yesterday with Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 1>But the congratulations to the Kansas City Chiefs. Here is

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Kelsey at yesterday's victory. Pretty everything look touchdown, every

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<v Speaker 1>single point we score at Arrowhead is going in with

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<v Speaker 1>the anthem and y'all gotta help me stay right here

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<v Speaker 1>one last time for two thousand, ninety two thousand, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>world champions You gotta fight. I love it. Okay, his

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<v Speaker 1>voice is gone. Patrick Mahomes voice, it had always sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like it was ready to go. Here's Mahomes yesterday season

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<v Speaker 1>here burthday. We deal with with the injuries. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>my knee was in the side of my leg, but

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<v Speaker 1>we still went back and we won the Super Bowl. Baby, alrighty, alrighty.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're gonna have I have as Kelsey

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<v Speaker 1>on for a little while. I'll wait till it gets

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<v Speaker 1>his voice back or Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, it's the one

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<v Speaker 1>time in your life you could scream anything into the microphone,

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<v Speaker 1>anything at all, even negative and hundreds of thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>are staring out. I hate that. Make a wish foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>They think, what you just keep lapping? Yes, you just

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be caught dancing if you can't dance.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Mark Mattson with the Lakers. Remember we played

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<v Speaker 1>that clip for a year. I think, get a bad Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do that on that day when you win

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<v Speaker 1>a championship. I don't think anybody's critiquing you. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>we win the sport, When we win the Sports Emmy

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<v Speaker 1>this year, we're dancing. We're dancing on stage. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna raise the roof when we win the Sports Emmy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if I win it individually, I won't be dancing. But

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<v Speaker 1>if we win for a show, then we're up there dancing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>See I'm means plugging down beers too? Out of that, imman,

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<v Speaker 1>just like, uh yeah, I think you've got to fight

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<v Speaker 1>for your right to Lombardi. Sounds a whole lot better,

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<v Speaker 1>and fight for your right to party. I mean, PC

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<v Speaker 1>boys great, but fight for your right to Lombardi. That

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<v Speaker 1>sounded like it was a I figured Travis Kelsey was

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<v Speaker 1>going to trademark that maybe you already had. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>if you like get in touch with the program. You

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<v Speaker 1>can h seven seven three DP show email address DP

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<v Speaker 1>at dan Patrick dot com. I do have some more

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<v Speaker 1>trigger Meat Friday songs. We gave you a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>them yesterday and was at the day before. They were great,

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<v Speaker 1>really well done, and we'll set that up for our

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<v Speaker 1>Meat Madness coming up in March. And then of course

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<v Speaker 1>the final four NBA trade deadline. My Memphis Grizzlies did

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<v Speaker 1>a great job. Now they traded Andre Iguodala, they get

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Winslow. Igudala didn't want to be there. The Memphis

0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Grizzlies have had a good year. You know, they're fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for a playoff spot, and you start to look at

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<v Speaker 1>some of the moves that they've made. You get Brandon Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>who I like a lot. They traded Mike Conley and

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<v Speaker 1>Ja Crowder for a future first round pick. They got

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<v Speaker 1>the Heat to take Andrea Gudala, and then they flipped

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<v Speaker 1>Igudala for Justice Winslow. So they've done pretty well here.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Miami Heat or gearing up Miami Heat are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna probably add Danilo Gatlinari, who's a really good addition

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<v Speaker 1>for this team. And the Miami Heat could be the

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<v Speaker 1>second best team in the eighth. You know, we wait

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<v Speaker 1>for the seventy Sixers to be what we thought they were,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if we're going to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a column today that talked about is it

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<v Speaker 1>time for the Sixers to really consider trading Ben Simmons.

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Hayes had the article, and keep in mind, the

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<v Speaker 1>Sixers tried to trade for Anthony Davis last year, but

0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.720
<v Speaker 1>they realized that Anthony Davis was probably not going to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Hayes in his column says, as I reported last year,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sixers were willing to trade Simmons last season for

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis, which would have given them the league's best

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<v Speaker 1>big man as well as the number two big man

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<v Speaker 1>in joe El Embiad, But they believe Davis would ball

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<v Speaker 1>gets staying long term, and ownership wasn't eager to admit

0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:07.000
<v Speaker 1>another drafting development failure on the heels of the Marquelle

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<v Speaker 1>Folts fiasco. But somebody, it feels like, has to go,

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<v Speaker 1>either Joel Embiad or Ben Simmons. And Ben Simmons is

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<v Speaker 1>playing extremely well here in the last ten games. You know,

0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:22.880
<v Speaker 1>he's I think twenty three, nine and seven or twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>eight and nine. You know, he's got some really really

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<v Speaker 1>good numbers here. I just don't know you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>two year window. It feels like with Ben Simmons and

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<v Speaker 1>Joel Embid together, that's my gut feeling, and then you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go, now it's time to trade somebody. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what Ben Simmons is going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>two years. I don't know what Joe l. Embiid is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in two years. I get a little

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<v Speaker 1>more nervous with Embiid because he's injury prone. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he wants to be great. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>very good, extremely talented. I just don't know if he

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<v Speaker 1>has that desire to want to kill you to be great.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if Ben Simmons wants to do that.

0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons caught heat because speaking of the heat and

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the heat, the Sixers were playing the Heat

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<v Speaker 1>and in Miami, and Ben Simmons was pool side with

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<v Speaker 1>one of the Kardashians, and therefore he must not be

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<v Speaker 1>committed to winning basketball or something he was seeing pool

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<v Speaker 1>side with one of the Kardashians. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>indict him on that. I'm going to indict him because

0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.440
<v Speaker 1>he can't shoot and won't. I think he can shoot,

0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.400
<v Speaker 1>he just won't shoot. And if you can tell me

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<v Speaker 1>in two years from now that he can go from

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<v Speaker 1>where he is now to where the Greek freak is

0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.360
<v Speaker 1>with his shooting ability, I mean, markul Folds is a

0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:43.000
<v Speaker 1>better shooter than Ben Simmons. Who would have thought, But

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I want to know. If I'm the seventy

0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.480
<v Speaker 1>sixers and you got to look at this roster, Al

0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Horford was supposed to be. That's the missing ingredient here. Boy,

0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.880
<v Speaker 1>wait till we get to the postseason. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why the Heat are bringing in Andrea Goodalla, guys who

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<v Speaker 1>know how to play basketball, because the NBA in the playoffs,

0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:02.000
<v Speaker 1>he's completely different than what you're seeing during the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just recess time. Go out and have fun

0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.320
<v Speaker 1>going down the floor. Playoff basketball gonna be a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot different. It is every year for James Harden. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a certain team or certain players where you go. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just different. You play them differently or they play differently.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I'm the Philadelphia seventy six Ers, what could

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<v Speaker 1>I get in return for Ben Simmons? What could I

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<v Speaker 1>get in return for Jill WELLMB And that's what it

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to. Is there somebody out there that you

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<v Speaker 1>can get that's going to make you a better team.

0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:38.680
<v Speaker 1>And Ben Simmons fascinates me because Magic Johnson had this

0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.200
<v Speaker 1>ability to dominate a game and not score. Magic became

0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a respectable shooter. He worked on it. Ben Simmons is

0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a larger version of Jason Kidd, a triple double waiting

0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:52.880
<v Speaker 1>to happen, but not going to hurt you with this

0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.840
<v Speaker 1>jump shot. And then Jason Kidd learned to rely on

0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:59.200
<v Speaker 1>that jump shot later in his career. But if I'm Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>I really have to start looking at this and say,

0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:05.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, Toronto's got a sneaky good roster there, and

0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:07.840
<v Speaker 1>they got a great front office, and you might have

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<v Speaker 1>the best coach in the NBA. They're not going away.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I look at Miami, what pat Riley has done,

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<v Speaker 1>you know is sustainable. Riles is a great GM president

0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and he never stops. He has this question. You know,

0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.800
<v Speaker 1>He's like Jerry West, like they just never stopped. They

0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.480
<v Speaker 1>want to they want to win Philadelphia. I think Brett

0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Brown is coaching first job. You know, if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>go to the NBA at least the Eastern Conference finals.

0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.000
<v Speaker 1>He might lose his job here. Milwaukee is great, we

0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:43.480
<v Speaker 1>know that, But who is going to challenge Milwaukee here?

0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.840
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if it's Philadelphia? I thought it was,

0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.880
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know if it is. Yeah, mclovin, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>this on the coach that Simmons an MBID can't work

0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:58.680
<v Speaker 1>together to some extent. I would hope that they could divide.

0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you devised. Or you have a

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<v Speaker 1>big man who's outside and you got a point guard

0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:09.320
<v Speaker 1>who's great inside. It's just a weird combo there, and

0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.520
<v Speaker 1>they just don't It doesn't fit. It's awkward when you

0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.280
<v Speaker 1>watch that team play. Yeah. Can I give you two

0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:21.680
<v Speaker 1>completely nonsensical trade scenarios as Andrew from Satin Island calling

0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.520
<v Speaker 1>into the dam patch? Okay? Can I give you joellenb

0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:31.399
<v Speaker 1>to Phoenix for Devin Booker? Okayning, but Phoenix has a

0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.639
<v Speaker 1>big man. Yeah, we get eight and too. I didn't

0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.639
<v Speaker 1>I forgot. Oh, you get eight Booker for Joe? Why

0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.800
<v Speaker 1>would Phoenix do that? We'll give you Josh Richardson in

0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:42.360
<v Speaker 1>that deal? And why would Day wouldn't know they wouldn't. Yes,

0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.520
<v Speaker 1>there's seventy figures draft history. It's not near as good

0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.720
<v Speaker 1>as it appears. You know, all the players that they

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<v Speaker 1>draft either washed out or played well elsewhere. Going back

0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.680
<v Speaker 1>from Michael Carter Williams, Joel Embad panned up for a bit,

0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Joe lil Oka for it done, Ben Simmons, Marquel Foltz,

0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Mikaal Bridges who they traded and got. Basically I hear

0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Smith who doesn't play. You can go back. There's guys

0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like they've had Lou Williams on their team, Andre Goodala,

0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.240
<v Speaker 1>and they all moved on. Even the players they drafted

0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:12.120
<v Speaker 1>that were good eventually just leave. It's a tough history. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think the worst drafting team of all time

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<v Speaker 1>h in any sport or just the NBA. Let's just

0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.560
<v Speaker 1>keep it to the NBA. Okay, now are you kidding me?

0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.159
<v Speaker 1>At least they got sim and mb like remember the

0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:30.200
<v Speaker 1>old Cavs team, Like they they those guys were right

0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.560
<v Speaker 1>there for them to take. There was no strategy. They

0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.440
<v Speaker 1>just go, oh, Ben Simon's the best player, will take him.

0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, be brought the risk of his back injury,

0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:42.040
<v Speaker 1>but you know, still extremely talented by none of this

0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:45.000
<v Speaker 1>is on Sam Hinky, the process guy. They're all Colangelo

0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Elton Brand Man. That's true, and then you know there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a big or a high confidence level in

0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Elton brand being able to make some moves here for

0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the seventy six ers. But I'm curious if if those

0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.359
<v Speaker 1>guys are off the market like anybody else you can have,

0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.360
<v Speaker 1>but those two guys you're not. You're not gonna trade.

0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.920
<v Speaker 1>They're untouchable. But I don't know, I'm curious. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if there's any big deal that goes down. I

0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.359
<v Speaker 1>think the Sixers, you know, do they make something. The

0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Lakers and Clippers, you know that possibility. I think Golden

0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.000
<v Speaker 1>State's trying to get rid of DeAngelo Russell, But on

0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the net doesn't seem like there's much going on. Yeah, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>I googled the worst NBA draft history and the first

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<v Speaker 1>game that came up was the LA Clippers. Unfortunately, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could go through a lot of days, but

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have the time. Okay, it was bad though,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad, especially in the eighties and nineties. Remember all

0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:39.640
<v Speaker 1>over Candy when Michael Dark and Vince Carter and these

0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:43.080
<v Speaker 1>guys are right behind them, and you can go Benjamin, Oh,

0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:49.040
<v Speaker 1>you can go for days ben Wa Benjamin Yeah, bo Kimpbell.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the Sixers, the Sixers might be up there. No

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<v Speaker 1>way there there in the history. There weren't the great

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<v Speaker 1>No in the last twenty years years Didlie look for

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<v Speaker 1>draft by the way, it was nobody would. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the one draft with the whole first raft was that

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<v Speaker 1>Nerlands Noel. One of those drafts had the one where

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<v Speaker 1>the calf didn't make take Neurlands Noel and jelil Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they got jalil ok for but it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was because the one and done and like it was

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<v Speaker 1>bad drafts. Remember the Calves told Bennett and like, nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you. I would watch U and LB play

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.920
<v Speaker 1>and I had no idea that Anthony Bennett was any good.

0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Like I would see him and go, all right, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a nice college player. And then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>when the Calves are taking him and I go, where's

0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:37.520
<v Speaker 1>he playing? The like UNLB And I'm like, I've watched

0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:40.720
<v Speaker 1>UNLB play and he didn't stand out. Yeah, pull he

0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:42.840
<v Speaker 1>had the build of Zion Williamson without any of the

0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:47.040
<v Speaker 1>athletic ability like he couldn't get rim. He could get

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<v Speaker 1>net though, Oh yeah, he gets scrape the net like

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<v Speaker 1>me and I always like that. You know, when you're young,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going, hey, man, he can get rim and then

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.240
<v Speaker 1>you're just trying to get net. That was a big deal.

0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Or you could slap the backboard when you went in

0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:58.879
<v Speaker 1>for your layup like that was a big deal. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>whoa man, you see that he slapped the backboard. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean you could play, yeah McGlenn. Yeah. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>the worst draft ever, the one Aladipa went too, but

0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:08.800
<v Speaker 1>he got He didn't do anything for the magic. There

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<v Speaker 1>was some weird dude who win fifteen though? Who's in

0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee now in that draft? Now? The Greek freak? Yeah?

0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah about the Sixers had it? Think Michael Carter, Willy

0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Mike Rookie of the year. I think didn't he have

0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.080
<v Speaker 1>a triple doubles first game? Yeah, he was on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>He just couldn't shoot. But he I don't even think

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<v Speaker 1>he's an NBA anymore. He's been around a lot. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's still around. Is he is? He playing somewhere

0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:30.399
<v Speaker 1>out west? So I think so, all right, let me

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<v Speaker 1>take a break. Mike Floria was going to join us.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about this seventeen game regular season schedule for

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, the players Association, the players are going to

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<v Speaker 1>get together. I don't think they're voting on this today,

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<v Speaker 1>but just the fact that you know they're starting to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm told that the seventeen game regular season schedule is

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<v Speaker 1>really the big bargaining ship that the players have with

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<v Speaker 1>the owners, and they're trying to milk it for as

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<v Speaker 1>much as they can. We'll talk to Florio about that. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike wrote a column on the Joe Burrows situation with

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals, and he's there with me. It feels a

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<v Speaker 1>little noncommittal with Joe Burrow and his side of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the quotes attached to Joe, his dad, Carson Palmer,

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<v Speaker 1>whose brother Jordan Palmer is working with Joe Burrow. T J.

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<v Speaker 1>Hushman Zada, former Bengal wide receiver. He's also working with

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow. So we'll talk to Florio about that. Separate

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<v Speaker 1>not broadcasting. Sportscasting all right. I've of course caught a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of heat yesterday from the Bengals fans and read

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<v Speaker 1>some of their tweets, some of the tweets that I

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<v Speaker 1>could read. You know, Joe Burrow came on the show

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<v Speaker 1>at the Super Bowl, and you know we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>going number one and the Bengals, and is that one

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<v Speaker 1>and the same where you're going to a team. You

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<v Speaker 1>know you're going number one, but you want to go

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>to a team that's committed to winning. You know, Carson

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:15.199
<v Speaker 1>Palmer talked about the Bengals aren't committed to winning super Bowls.

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 1>His brother Jordan is working out. Joe Burrow, I thought

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Joe was a little bit vague on the Bengals. Okay,

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>let me let me just play the clip. Here's Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll put it in context. Do you want to hear

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 1>from the Bengals of whenever you're in the conversation for

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the number one pick, it's obviously a dream comes true,

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.160
<v Speaker 1>but they I know they have a process to go through.

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I have a process to go through. So that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a long ways the way, but it is being number

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<v Speaker 1>one or going to the right team the most important

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to you combination of both. You know, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go number one, but you also want to go to

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 1>a great organization. That's committed to winning, committed to winning

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:54.119
<v Speaker 1>super bowls. All right, let me bring in Mike Florial

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>from Pro Football Talk. Mike, thanks for joining us. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you hear in that comment from Joe Burrow? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear that at some level he is influenced by

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Carson Palmer. And how could you not be? The threads

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>are right in front of us. Carson Balmer says the

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Bengals aren't committed to winning a Super Bowl. He quit

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 1>on the Bengals. He quote unquote retired until the opportunity

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 1>came to trade him to the Raiders after Jason Campbell

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 1>broke a collarbone back in two eleven. And all worked

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:22.679
<v Speaker 1>out just perfectly and the Bengals got a good return,

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>but he was done. He was not going to play

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>anymore because he was frustrated with the bengals lack of

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:29.440
<v Speaker 1>effort to try to win a Super Bowl. Jordan Palmer's

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>brother is training Joe Burrow. It doesn't take many steps

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>to get to the point where all of a sudden,

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow is saying those things like I want to

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>play for a team that's committed to winning, and Dan,

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:41.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm a firm believer, and this is a take that

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 1>becomes less and less popular every year, but I really

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. I don't like the draft. I don't like

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:53.160
<v Speaker 1>the fact that these guys are forced to go live

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.439
<v Speaker 1>in a certain city, play for a certain team, they

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>get to pick their college. I don't and it's turned

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 1>into this it's an honor. It's not an honor. It's not.

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>You don't get to pick where you start your NFL career.

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 1>And for some of these quarterbacks, I think that getting

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:10.199
<v Speaker 1>picked by a bad organization keeps you from ever becoming

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 1>the guy you could have been. I say all the

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>time in nineteen ninety nine, if Donald mcnavit been picked

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>by the Bengals and at Kelly Smith has been picked

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>by the Eagles, how different would those two careers have gone.

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 1>We don't know, but I think it's a factor. And

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that especially when you are a guy like

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.679
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow and you are at the top of the stack.

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>I like it when the guy takes a stand and

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>says I don't want to play for the team that

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>has the first pick, like Eli Manning did, like John

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 1>Elway did. I think it needs to happen more often.

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 1>And you had some quotes in your column on Pro

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Football Talk dot Com, where you know we heard from

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>his dad, Jimmy Burrow. Joe's dad, so he texts somebody

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>at Fox nineteen in Cincinnati. I'm not sure where that

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>information is coming from. Jimmy Burrow said, we're all excited

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>that Joe has put himself in a position to be

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<v Speaker 1>considered as a possible high draft choice. All right, well,

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't say anything about them. Here's the problem. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem, and this is I think driven by the

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>way that fans react to players who buck the system. Right.

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 1>We applaud owners when they make savvy business deals that

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>result in more billions being piled on top of the

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 1>billions they have so they can buy a two hundred

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>and fifty million dollars yacht and be titans of industry.

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>When players try to make business decisions, fans get mad.

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Fans think players should just submit to the process. You

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>get drafted, you happily go there. And the reality is,

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.159
<v Speaker 1>and you know, people who know Mike Brown firmly believe

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>if he wants Joe Burrow, he's taken Joe Burrow. And

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>if Joe Burrow don't like it, tough crap. Joe Burrow

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>sit out the whole year and re enter the draft.

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>So it could be that these maneuverings, if there are any,

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 1>that are going to happen, fail and you got to

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>go to Cincinnati. And if you have to choose between

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>going to Cincinnati or sitting out the year, maybe you

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>just bite the bullet and go to Cincinnati. And you

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>don't want the fans to hate you walking through the door.

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why they're being vague about it. They

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>don't want to come out and say we don't want

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati because in the end they may have no choice.

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>But also you have t J. Houshman Zada, who played

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>with the Bengals. He's working with Joe Burrow wide receiver,

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and he said, hey, we're not disparaging the Bengals. But

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>then he did say that they should strongly consider any

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>gigantic crane offer they might get what Hey, Dan, I

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>can tell you this, And I don't like to traffic

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>in pre draft rumor and smoke screens because there's agendas,

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and you know, there's always a motivation to try to

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 1>get something out there. And I'm always skeptical about the

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>things I hear, but every once in a while you

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 1>hear something that under the circumstances, given the talk, context,

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>given the source, you can take it to the bank.

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Take this to the bank. Stephen Ross, the owner of

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins, wants Joe Burrow, and I assume that has

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>gotten back to Joe Burrow. So Miami and the Dolphins,

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati and the Bengals, if there's a way you can

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>work it that you get to Miami, maybe that's the

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>better choice. And that's why they keep it vague, because

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:07.959
<v Speaker 1>you don't know if a team wants to go up

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and get you, and the Dolphins have the draft capitol,

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>you know. I asked Todd McShay yesterday. I said, if

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you're Joe Burrow, would you rather go to Cincinnati or

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Miami right now? Given the state of those organizations? He said, Miami,

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>What do you think Miami? Look? Look, some of the

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>folks in Cincinnati are getting upset that the national media

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>is making this a thing. But let's be fair about it.

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>If you got to choose between Cincinnati and pretty much

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 1>any other team right now, Sorry Bengals, but I'm picking

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the other team right unless it's a team that has

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>a franchise quarterback that's going to be starting for years

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>to come like the Chiefs. But all things being equal,

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to play for the Bengals. I agree

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>with Carson Palmer's assessment. Why would Carson Palmer be lying

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>about this. He lived it from two thousand and three

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 1>through two thousand and ten, So yeah, I defer to that.

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 1>And it messes with everything I've all always heard about

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Mike Brown and the Bengals that it's not about winning championships.

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>It's about making money. And they make a ton of

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>money and they don't spend a lot of money. It's

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>a profitable business, period and some owners look at it

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 1>that way, and some are less discreet than others about,

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, letting it be known that that is the motivation,

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>not winning championships. Talking to Mike Florio co host a

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Talk with Chris Simms on the NBC Sports Network,

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the Jags with another game in London, and the Jacksonville

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>fans always get upset with me, where I just say, hey,

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>hold on for dear life, man, because now you've got

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>an owner saying hey, I can make money in London

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and that helps me in building this whatever, this community

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>around the stadium and all these big plans he has

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>business wise, At what point do you think that they

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>only do one game in London or they add a

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 1>third game in London. What happens first with the Jags? Oh,

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it may go back to one game next year.

0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that this really is an experiment, right, see

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 1>how it goes. Let's see how two games with the

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>same team there goes. Because I had somebody who was

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>in London reach out for me and say, look, when

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I go to a Jaguars game, twenty five percent of

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the fans or Jaguars fans. The other people are just

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>football fans, fans and the other team fans of any team.

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>They just want to go to a game. I don't

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>know how much of a fan base the Jaguars can build,

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 1>but I think the vision for shod Con would be

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Remember how the Packers used to split their schedule between

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>County Stadium in Milwaukee and lambeau Field. I could see

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>four games in Jacksonville, four games in London. Make the

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>playoffs host a game. You don't have to worry about

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>all the extra logistics of taking teams to London to

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 1>play a playoff game, and then you got to turn

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>around the team the road team wins have to fly

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>back across the ocean and maybe play a game in California.

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it would get ridiculous. Jacksonville's your home base.

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>If you host playoff games, you're still the Jacksonville Jaguars.

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>You play half your games in London, and I wouldn't

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 1>be surprised Dan at some point if there are two

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>teams that do that, so you have the two stadiums,

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you split your schedule between your US base and London.

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that makes sense. Otherwise, too many logistical problems,

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>too many hurdles, too many hardships for players if they

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>if they're I would I would much prefer to moving

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>a team to London. This concept of having up to

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 1>eight games with different teams, I think that's the better approach.

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>But if anybody's gonna establish that base there, it would

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>be the Jaguars playing half their games. I think that's

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>where it ends up the seventeen game and NFL regular

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>season schedule. I'm not sure where we stand on this,

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>and I know the players are going to vote on this,

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>to the the union's going to vote on this, but well,

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>how do you think that vote would would play out?

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>If I said to you know, the entire NFL player base.

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>You guys want to play a seventeen game schedule and

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you'll get an extra game check. Well, it's got to

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>be more than an extra game check to play an

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>extra game. There's got to be a premium there. And

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.959
<v Speaker 1>it can't just be extra salary cap space, because then

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the stars get that money, the minimums have to go up.

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>You have to ensure that that money is going to

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>make its way to the average player who is out

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>there grinding weekend and week out. Here's what's happening, Dan,

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>And this is in a nutshell where things stand. The

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>union and the league have negotiated a deal. They have

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 1>a deal. You have to sell the deal to your client, though,

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's like a lawsuit. You set all a lawsuit,

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the lawyers work out a deal, and then they go

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 1>sell the deal to their clients. The NFLPA is trying

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>to sell the deal to its client. The problem is

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:25.879
<v Speaker 1>the NFLPA is getting unexpected pushback from the client and

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>so there hasn't been a vote yet. Because they did

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>a vote, they're afraid it would be no. So they're

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to work this through. And here's the reality. Here's

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 1>what the union has to ask itself, will we take

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>a work stoppage, lockout, or strike and actually miss game checks.

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 1>If you won't miss game checks and football games, then

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>why take the best deal on the brink of missing

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 1>game checks when you can take the best deal now

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>at a time when that can be parlayed into new

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>TV deals that are done before the presidential election hurts

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>ratings before our session, which is being expected by the

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>folks behind the curtain who accounting the money for the NFL,

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>before the budgets getting pined because of that, they want

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 1>to turn this around now. I think d Smith understands

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>when push comes to shove, these guys are going to

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>take seventeen games because they're not going to miss game

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>checks to take a stand. So let's just do it

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>now and then let's get billions more on these TV

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>deals that will be negotiated immediately after this is done.

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 1>That's what you've got to sell these guys on, and

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't been able to do it yet. Final question,

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>The most interesting offseason quarterback storyline is, without question, where

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>does hashtag Tommy go? Where does he go? Right? Because

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I think, look Dan in New England, he's only going back.

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>If Bill Belichick gets on a knee and applies his

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>lips to the butt cheeks each side of Tom Brady,

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>he's sick of dealing with being beaten down by this

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 1>guy for twenty years. Bill Belichick is who he is.

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>He wants some appreciation, some acknowledgement, some recognition. Without that,

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I think he's leaving. And we were throwing this around

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>today on PFT lot because Sims knows Kyle Shanahan really well.

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm of the mindset that Kyle Shanahan

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 1>needs to be thinking about potential upgrades at the quarterback position,

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>because championship quarterbacks make championship throws, and Garoppolo had one

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>that he could have made and he didn't. If you're

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Shanahan and you pick up your cell phone and it's

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady and he says, I'd really like to come

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>play for the team that I rooted for growing up.

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that with me, we can win championship this year.

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>What do you say, if you're Kyle Shanahan, what do

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you say to that? What do you say? I'd be

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 1>tempted to say yes if I were Kyle Shannon. Do

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you think that the Niners would have won the Super

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Bowl with Tom Brady. Yes, okay, without question, Okay don't

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you Yes, I do, I do. I just don't know,

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>because Belichick would love to get Garoppolo back. Right, wouldn't

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>that be something traded back to Belichick? Right, wouldn't be

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I don't know, if Belichick saw

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 1>enough where he goes No, you know, on second thought,

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.879
<v Speaker 1>I'll let you keep Garoppolo in San Francisco. Hey, Dan,

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 1>in all serious a seriousness, note the way that the

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers structure these contracts. They have until April

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>one to make a decision on Garoppolo. That's an eternity

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL offseason. You can wait to see what

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>plays out with Brady. You can wait to see what

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:10.919
<v Speaker 1>other free agents are out there. You can you could

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe make a subtle phone call to the Vikings and say, hey,

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're not going to extend Kirk Cousins,

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll take him here. Kyle Shannahan said last week the

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.319
<v Speaker 1>reason he didn't evaluate Patrick Mahomes in twenty seventeen is

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>he was certain he was gonna get Kirk Cousins in

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>free agency a year later. And that's the those thing

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 1>they could do. They give Garoppolo one more year and

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>then go get Kirk Cousins if he doesn't sign an

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>extension in Minnesota. I'm telling you, look, yeah, I think

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Garoppolo is a week link on that team, and at

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>some point in nineers fans get upset. It's like, folks,

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>you should want your team to get better, and if

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:40.839
<v Speaker 1>there's a better option out there at quarterback, why don't

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 1>you want it. I don't know if it would ever happen,

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 1>but it's fun talking about it. Wouldn't be great, would

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 1>it be great? It would be great. I root for chaos, right,

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>It keeps us, It keeps us occupied. If you're chaos.

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.359
<v Speaker 1>Did you like the off season better than the regular season? Oh,

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 1>we get we make we have more traffic, make more

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>money in the offseason. I mean that's because because there's

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>no football, so it's just rumor all the football fans.

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 1>When you don't have that outlet every week, you're constantly

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:10.879
<v Speaker 1>trying to check in to see what happens. So, yeah,

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>we we'll have our biggest month of the year in March,

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and then in April and then even in May, June

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:17.880
<v Speaker 1>and July. When people don't have their football fix, they

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>go look for whatever they can get. Great to talk

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 1>to you again, Mike, Thank you always. That's Mike Florio,

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<v Speaker 1>my god, the play of the day that day? Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>look's up court dear gets going up? Being the courtesy

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<v Speaker 1>of IMG Learfield College, Villanova and Butler. Butler knocks off

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<v Speaker 1>the number ten team in the country. Butler will host

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<v Speaker 1>number twelve Seaton Hall on Saturday. Let me see if

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<v Speaker 1>I know where Mario was going with this with Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Indiana Native Gary, Indiana and the song beat It.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it. Okay, that's our play of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson, Gary, Indiana and Villanova loses. Butler's got Seaton Hall,

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<v Speaker 1>and Seaton Hall's playing really well and got one of

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<v Speaker 1>the top players in the country. All right, poll question,

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 1>what are we going with? McLevin? How about NBA? Is

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>there anybody outside of the Big three the Lakers, Clippers,

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and Bucks that can make the finals? Choice being the Heat,

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the Celtics, the Raptors, the Nuggets. Uh in Toronto not

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.879
<v Speaker 1>Houston and Easton? Sorry but yeah, he said, I guess

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Is that small ball gonna work? I

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>actually don't understand. Well, there's a lot riding on this

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 1>because you know, you got Mike d'antoni's job is on

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 1>the line, So this is gonna win now. So yeah, yeah,

0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>they yes, they probably have to go to the Western

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Conference finals. It feels like, but they're all in on

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 1>small ball. I feel like they're still going to have

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to get a big guy. You know, you're not gonna

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>be spending the money you did with Clint Capella. But

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:47.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, at some point, and I've said this before,

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 1>everybody shooting threes, Eventually somebody's gonna go, now, why don't

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you deal with us? And we're gonna have inside presence here,

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>like we're gonna we're gonna do something that's you know,

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>different than everybody else. Everybody want to have a wide

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:03.760
<v Speaker 1>open offense in the NFL. And I said, what happens

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 1>when somebody runs the football, controls the clock, makes you pay, pounds,

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 1>you down. You know, eventually somebody gets around too that.

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, the Ravens did that, But they also had

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.879
<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson lead the league, and you know, touchdowns, that's

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 1>why they were great. If he doesn't have half of

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:23.759
<v Speaker 1>those touchdowns or three quarters of those touchdowns, then maybe

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:26.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a different story for the Ravens during the regular season.

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 1>But they dominated you. The Niners dominated you. With their

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 1>running attack there. So eventually you get to a point

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 1>where you go, why don't we do something different? I mean,

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:37.279
<v Speaker 1>that's the gut feeling I have, And maybe that's what

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Houston's doing. They're doing something different. They had sixty three

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:45.440
<v Speaker 1>point attempts the other night and they made twenty and

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:48.800
<v Speaker 1>they were thrilled with that. Yeah, po Nobody talks about Toronto,

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 1>but Pascal Siakama, his stats arens exactly what what what

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 1>the last year? You know, with Kauai and they still

0:43:55.760 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 1>got Lowery Van Vleete, Abaca and Agobe with Gasol that

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>nobody talks about them though, because they got their attention

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>last year. But they could easily upset somebody. And I

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 1>don't even be that big of an upset, I don't think.

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 1>And you know that Nick Nurse is maybe the best

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>coach in the NBA or on the short list. He's

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>done a great job with that. Siakam is a wonderful

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:17.240
<v Speaker 1>player to watch, and you know, we sort of forget

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>about Toronto until they're right there in front of you,

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:23.799
<v Speaker 1>and then you go, oh, okay, and then you see

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:26.879
<v Speaker 1>that they have you know, quality team there, depth there

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and a surprising team. What about the Heat and I

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>like the heat I do. It feels like that's a team.

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>But I wondered if they were going to trade Tyler Hero.

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't you know. There was there was talk that

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:44.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe he's available, but I don't know who you're getting

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 1>just saying that that. This is just sort of trade

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 1>chatter here. But it feels like if there's nothing to

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>talk about, then we just sort of go, maybe that guy,

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe Buddy Heels will be traded, you know, I don't know,

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.440
<v Speaker 1>But then we start to throw things out because there

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 1>aren't enough marquee names to talk about when it comes

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to the trade deadline. Yeah, I'm the club Marcus Morris

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 1>seems like a real thing though. Yeah, but it's the Knicks,

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if they know what they're doing,

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, just fired your GM. Yeah, what are they

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>going to do there? I know that they're all in

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>on Jerry. But I heard an interesting theory let me

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 1>float down on Twitter that Rich Paul would be the

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 1>perfect GM of the the Lebrons. Agent had to Clutch Sports,

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 1>would be the best guy that they could hire. Why

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 1>would he take that jump? Well, a lot of agents

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:29.760
<v Speaker 1>are moving on the team side at Brody band Wagon

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 1>in I know, but why would he do that? I

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 1>mean that used to be at a steam place to be. Oh,

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I know, but it may not be to Rich Paul.

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 1>It is to people who are over the age of fifty.

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I have you got new ownership in there, then I

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:48.759
<v Speaker 1>would say, all right, I'd consider that. Not with this ownership,

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 1>because that's another owner who thinks he's smart when it

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 1>comes to basketball. The smart owners are smart enough to

0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:59.840
<v Speaker 1>let somebody who does know more than them get involved

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:02.800
<v Speaker 1>in all these decisions. Now they want the Angelo Russell

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:06.839
<v Speaker 1>good luck? What about Missaiyu Jerry? Would you jump over

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks get to a bigger market than Toronto? No,

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go in there with that ownership.

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't unless you give me a piece of the ownership.

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