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Speaker 1: the Mercedes man Cave, a very handsome vehicle. This is
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick. Welcome to the program. Already in progress. As
Speaker 1: I was walking in getting ready to turn on the microphone,
Speaker 1: McLevin goes, you know a fashion trend that I really
Speaker 1: have a problem with, And I go and then I
Speaker 1: close the door. McLevin, do you want to expound upon
Speaker 1: that the fashion trend that you really are bothered by? So,
Speaker 1: when the Danets took over South Beach last week, yeah,
Speaker 1: all the young hipsters are wearing white sneakers instead of
Speaker 1: dark sneakers. Okay, And first of all, I don't look
Speaker 1: good at white sneakers. And second of all, they get
Speaker 1: dirty so fast that I feel like this is a
Speaker 1: fashion investment that I cannot afford to make. Okay, and
Speaker 1: that really bothers you. Yes, the white sneaker trend bothers me. Okay.
Speaker 1: I apologize to the audience for pausing and listening to me.
Speaker 1: I thought it was something dramatic. You should have fought
Speaker 1: stay in there. Yes, Dan, I checked moments ago GEQ
Speaker 1: because Andrew mentioned this, and it's been a couple of
Speaker 1: years now that the dark jeans white sneakers thing has
Speaker 1: been popular and h but he's got a point. Keeping
Speaker 1: them clean seems like a brutal thing. I saw a
Speaker 1: guy on our staff who had brand new sneakers visible.
Speaker 1: They were clean, gorgeous, but by the end of the
Speaker 1: week they looked like he'd rolled him down a flight
Speaker 1: of stairs. Okay, that's it, all right, back to you,
Speaker 1: all right, okay, welcome to the program. As I said
Speaker 1: already in prog Grass. Coming up, we'll talk to Richard Roper,
Speaker 1: film critic for the Chicago Sun Times. The Academy Awards
Speaker 1: coming up this weekend. Steve Levy from the Mothership, we'll
Speaker 1: drop by and we'll check in with Mike Florio from
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk, as it remains a little bit vague
Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow in the Cincinnati Bengals. I know we
Speaker 1: talked about this yesterday. I heard from the Bengal fans
Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow's dad has talked about the Bengals going
Speaker 1: number one. Mike Florio wrote about this as well, so
Speaker 1: we'll talk to Florio. Also, Yes, Steve Levy. By the way,
Speaker 1: big black shoes with a suit, black sneakers with a
Speaker 1: white bottom, is that cool in your mind? That's what
Speaker 1: everyone in ESPN wears, those Kohan blacks. Oh yeah, well
Speaker 1: I started to see that with Howie Long and Michael
Speaker 1: straighthand where you could go casual in the bottom and
Speaker 1: then you could be dressing up top. Yeah, Paul, you're right.
Speaker 1: I was watching Fox and ESPN on Saturday and Sunday
Speaker 1: and all the anchors are wearing like nice sneakers, but
Speaker 1: they're definitely like sketcher type sneakers where they're dark with suits,
Speaker 1: which looks horrendous because you should wear dress shoes with
Speaker 1: a suit. Do you think like a dress shoes company.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the best ones are. Coolhan should
Speaker 1: put a shoe that's got more of a grippy bottom
Speaker 1: instead of a slippy bottom, and then you can have
Speaker 1: a nice dress shoe and look like a gentleman. It's terrible.
Speaker 1: I saw a chefter the other day. He's got this
Speaker 1: two thousand dollars suit on and a pair of sketchers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you'd be surprised how much those shoes cost. They
Speaker 1: may not look like they cost a lot, but if
Speaker 1: you look bad, it ruins the whole out. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: that's the new look though, that you have these like
Speaker 1: colorful shoes. So you could have like a blue suede
Speaker 1: and then you can have like green or yellow or
Speaker 1: whatever the sole of the shoe. They're good looking shoes,
Speaker 1: but they're not meant to be warm with a suit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you want to be comfortable. I think that's that's
Speaker 1: what they're going for. Yes, then you wouldn't be wearing
Speaker 1: a suit, right, No, your shoes are comfortable while you're
Speaker 1: wearing a shoe if you're standing on your feet, like
Speaker 1: those NFL analysts are for like your four hours a day.
Speaker 1: You know, then you want to be comfortable. I though
Speaker 1: you're gonna say thirty or four minutes. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: NFL analyst is really standing on the seat for four hours. Well,
Speaker 1: during the Super Bowl coverage they are. Yes, mclough. I
Speaker 1: know you've talked about it, but what was on the
Speaker 1: bottom when you're doing Sports Center for all those years? Well,
Speaker 1: we wore pants. There were times we wore shorts, and
Speaker 1: then somebody took a wide shot of the Sports Center
Speaker 1: set and somebody had shorts on and that ruined it
Speaker 1: for everybody. Then we had we got yelled at and
Speaker 1: said you got to wear you must wear pants. Imagine
Speaker 1: that meeting where you come in and we want you
Speaker 1: to wear pants. You don't normally hear that from your boss,
Speaker 1: but we did that at ESPN. Yeah, who decided it
Speaker 1: was unprofessional or not a good look for the company
Speaker 1: to have to if you were wearing sweats or not
Speaker 1: to look slovenly, but something comfortable. You're talking Bucks ninety three,
Speaker 1: Raptors eighty eight or four two cubs. Why do you
Speaker 1: have to be in a sports back in the tie,
Speaker 1: whether it's Sports Center or a studio show or whatever.
Speaker 1: Why does it have to be well dressing well? You
Speaker 1: want to be presentable, you're on TV, you want to
Speaker 1: be perfect national. I mean, it is a place of business.
Speaker 1: You don't want to look like a slab. But they
Speaker 1: are coaches that some dress up in some like a belochie,
Speaker 1: but they're not. They're not reporters, they're not at you know,
Speaker 1: people anchors, They're coaches. They can dress like that if
Speaker 1: they want to. Would would it? Boy? Would it bother?
Speaker 1: You would? Would you think the average would be uncomfortable
Speaker 1: if people on TV talking sports weren't in a jacket
Speaker 1: and tie or in like all dressed up. How do
Speaker 1: we get you know what? I apologize I got on
Speaker 1: this topic that I don't know if the only problem
Speaker 1: I have is when you see a golf event and
Speaker 1: you're in a shoot and tie. That's where you should
Speaker 1: be in a golf shirt if you're covering golf. I
Speaker 1: always thought that that was awkward. You'd be out there
Speaker 1: in a suit and tie instead of a golf shirt
Speaker 1: when you're covering the sport, and you'll see that, you know,
Speaker 1: when they go to Nick Faldo and Sara, Nick Faudo
Speaker 1: and Jim Nanson, they got a shooting tie on, or
Speaker 1: at least they have a sport coat in the tie,
Speaker 1: and I always feel that's awkward at a at a
Speaker 1: golf event. Already, if you got a chance to watch
Speaker 1: the Chiefs victory pray, you probably notice one player who
Speaker 1: was a little bit louder than everybody else, and that
Speaker 1: was tight end Travis Kelsey. He's become the unofficial party
Speaker 1: starter for the World Champs and he's reminiscent of Rob Gronkowski.
Speaker 1: You might call it at the Gronk effect, and Kelsey
Speaker 1: and Gronk are actually the same exact age. But it
Speaker 1: was the former Patriot who really introduced the concept of
Speaker 1: the highly visible party tight end. When you think about it,
Speaker 1: you know, down through the years there have been great
Speaker 1: tight ends, but you know Mike Ditka after his playing career,
Speaker 1: or you know John Mackie was a wonderful tight end,
Speaker 1: Kellen Winslow, but Gronk was the guy who came out
Speaker 1: and said, I'm basically the personality on this team. And
Speaker 1: back in the day, tight ends were known for blocking
Speaker 1: and occasionally catching passes. Now, when you think of a team,
Speaker 1: you always you know, you start with the quarterback and
Speaker 1: then you a lot of these teams. You look at
Speaker 1: the tight end, you know, look at the Ravens. They
Speaker 1: had three tight ends this year. San Francisco and Kansas
Speaker 1: City both had very very good tight ends. So the
Speaker 1: personality the tight ends, it feels like the tight ends
Speaker 1: are to take over for wide receivers and get into
Speaker 1: the Hey notice us personalities, and certainly with Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: and Rob Grunkowski leading the way, it's become one of
Speaker 1: the more fan friendly groups in the NFL. It was
Speaker 1: fun yesterday for the Kansas City Chiefs seeing the victory parade.
Speaker 1: You know, parades have changed a lot over the years.
Speaker 1: I don't know where it got to the point where
Speaker 1: you go, give me that microphone. I can say whatever
Speaker 1: I want to because I'm liquored up and I don't
Speaker 1: remember alcohol being involved in a lot of these parades
Speaker 1: years ago. But you know, you're seeing you know, the cavaliers,
Speaker 1: guys got their shirt saw I mean, it's there's no
Speaker 1: decorum whatsoever. It feels like Kansas City was a little
Speaker 1: more modest than what the Philadelphia Eagles had. And that
Speaker 1: was another Kelsey brother in there too, who was leading
Speaker 1: the charge. But it feels like you give somebody a mic.
Speaker 1: We just want a championship. Who cares if there's mothers
Speaker 1: children in the crowd. Maybe it's say in fact, they
Speaker 1: would say mothers. That's what you had yesterday with Kelsey.
Speaker 1: But the congratulations to the Kansas City Chiefs. Here is
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey at yesterday's victory. Pretty everything look touchdown, every
Speaker 1: single point we score at Arrowhead is going in with
Speaker 1: the anthem and y'all gotta help me stay right here
Speaker 1: one last time for two thousand, ninety two thousand, twenty
Speaker 1: world champions You gotta fight. I love it. Okay, his
Speaker 1: voice is gone. Patrick Mahomes voice, it had always sounded
Speaker 1: like it was ready to go. Here's Mahomes yesterday season
Speaker 1: here burthday. We deal with with the injuries. I mean
Speaker 1: my knee was in the side of my leg, but
Speaker 1: we still went back and we won the Super Bowl. Baby, alrighty, alrighty.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna have I have as Kelsey
Speaker 1: on for a little while. I'll wait till it gets
Speaker 1: his voice back or Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, it's the one
Speaker 1: time in your life you could scream anything into the microphone,
Speaker 1: anything at all, even negative and hundreds of thousand people
Speaker 1: are staring out. I hate that. Make a wish foundation.
Speaker 1: They think, what you just keep lapping? Yes, you just
Speaker 1: don't want to be caught dancing if you can't dance.
Speaker 1: I remember Mark Mattson with the Lakers. Remember we played
Speaker 1: that clip for a year. I think, get a bad Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can do that on that day when you win
Speaker 1: a championship. I don't think anybody's critiquing you. Like if
Speaker 1: we win the sport, When we win the Sports Emmy
Speaker 1: this year, we're dancing. We're dancing on stage. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna raise the roof when we win the Sports Emmy. Now,
Speaker 1: if I win it individually, I won't be dancing. But
Speaker 1: if we win for a show, then we're up there dancing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: See I'm means plugging down beers too? Out of that, imman,
Speaker 1: just like, uh yeah, I think you've got to fight
Speaker 1: for your right to Lombardi. Sounds a whole lot better,
Speaker 1: and fight for your right to party. I mean, PC
Speaker 1: boys great, but fight for your right to Lombardi. That
Speaker 1: sounded like it was a I figured Travis Kelsey was
Speaker 1: going to trademark that maybe you already had. All right,
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Speaker 1: them yesterday and was at the day before. They were great,
Speaker 1: really well done, and we'll set that up for our
Speaker 1: Meat Madness coming up in March. And then of course
Speaker 1: the final four NBA trade deadline. My Memphis Grizzlies did
Speaker 1: a great job. Now they traded Andre Iguodala, they get
Speaker 1: Justice Winslow. Igudala didn't want to be there. The Memphis
Speaker 1: Grizzlies have had a good year. You know, they're fighting
Speaker 1: for a playoff spot, and you start to look at
Speaker 1: some of the moves that they've made. You get Brandon Clark,
Speaker 1: who I like a lot. They traded Mike Conley and
Speaker 1: Ja Crowder for a future first round pick. They got
Speaker 1: the Heat to take Andrea Gudala, and then they flipped
Speaker 1: Igudala for Justice Winslow. So they've done pretty well here.
Speaker 1: And the Miami Heat or gearing up Miami Heat are
Speaker 1: gonna probably add Danilo Gatlinari, who's a really good addition
Speaker 1: for this team. And the Miami Heat could be the
Speaker 1: second best team in the eighth. You know, we wait
Speaker 1: for the seventy Sixers to be what we thought they were,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if we're going to see that.
Speaker 1: I saw a column today that talked about is it
Speaker 1: time for the Sixers to really consider trading Ben Simmons.
Speaker 1: Marcus Hayes had the article, and keep in mind, the
Speaker 1: Sixers tried to trade for Anthony Davis last year, but
Speaker 1: they realized that Anthony Davis was probably not going to stay.
Speaker 1: Hayes in his column says, as I reported last year,
Speaker 1: the Sixers were willing to trade Simmons last season for
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, which would have given them the league's best
Speaker 1: big man as well as the number two big man
Speaker 1: in joe El Embiad, But they believe Davis would ball
Speaker 1: gets staying long term, and ownership wasn't eager to admit
Speaker 1: another drafting development failure on the heels of the Marquelle
Speaker 1: Folts fiasco. But somebody, it feels like, has to go,
Speaker 1: either Joel Embiad or Ben Simmons. And Ben Simmons is
Speaker 1: playing extremely well here in the last ten games. You know,
Speaker 1: he's I think twenty three, nine and seven or twenty three,
Speaker 1: eight and nine. You know, he's got some really really
Speaker 1: good numbers here. I just don't know you've got a
Speaker 1: two year window. It feels like with Ben Simmons and
Speaker 1: Joel Embid together, that's my gut feeling, and then you're
Speaker 1: going to go, now it's time to trade somebody. I
Speaker 1: don't know what Ben Simmons is going to be in
Speaker 1: two years. I don't know what Joe l. Embiid is
Speaker 1: going to be in two years. I get a little
Speaker 1: more nervous with Embiid because he's injury prone. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he wants to be great. I think he's
Speaker 1: very good, extremely talented. I just don't know if he
Speaker 1: has that desire to want to kill you to be great.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if Ben Simmons wants to do that.
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons caught heat because speaking of the heat and
Speaker 1: talking about the heat, the Sixers were playing the Heat
Speaker 1: and in Miami, and Ben Simmons was pool side with
Speaker 1: one of the Kardashians, and therefore he must not be
Speaker 1: committed to winning basketball or something he was seeing pool
Speaker 1: side with one of the Kardashians. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: indict him on that. I'm going to indict him because
Speaker 1: he can't shoot and won't. I think he can shoot,
Speaker 1: he just won't shoot. And if you can tell me
Speaker 1: in two years from now that he can go from
Speaker 1: where he is now to where the Greek freak is
Speaker 1: with his shooting ability, I mean, markul Folds is a
Speaker 1: better shooter than Ben Simmons. Who would have thought, But
Speaker 1: that's what I want to know. If I'm the seventy
Speaker 1: sixers and you got to look at this roster, Al
Speaker 1: Horford was supposed to be. That's the missing ingredient here. Boy,
Speaker 1: wait till we get to the postseason. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: why the Heat are bringing in Andrea Goodalla, guys who
Speaker 1: know how to play basketball, because the NBA in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: he's completely different than what you're seeing during the regular season.
Speaker 1: This is just recess time. Go out and have fun
Speaker 1: going down the floor. Playoff basketball gonna be a whole
Speaker 1: lot different. It is every year for James Harden. There's
Speaker 1: a certain team or certain players where you go. It's
Speaker 1: just different. You play them differently or they play differently.
Speaker 1: And if I'm the Philadelphia seventy six Ers, what could
Speaker 1: I get in return for Ben Simmons? What could I
Speaker 1: get in return for Jill WELLMB And that's what it
Speaker 1: comes down to. Is there somebody out there that you
Speaker 1: can get that's going to make you a better team.
Speaker 1: And Ben Simmons fascinates me because Magic Johnson had this
Speaker 1: ability to dominate a game and not score. Magic became
Speaker 1: a respectable shooter. He worked on it. Ben Simmons is
Speaker 1: a larger version of Jason Kidd, a triple double waiting
Speaker 1: to happen, but not going to hurt you with this
Speaker 1: jump shot. And then Jason Kidd learned to rely on
Speaker 1: that jump shot later in his career. But if I'm Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: I really have to start looking at this and say,
Speaker 1: you know, Toronto's got a sneaky good roster there, and
Speaker 1: they got a great front office, and you might have
Speaker 1: the best coach in the NBA. They're not going away.
Speaker 1: And if I look at Miami, what pat Riley has done,
Speaker 1: you know is sustainable. Riles is a great GM president
Speaker 1: and he never stops. He has this question. You know,
Speaker 1: He's like Jerry West, like they just never stopped. They
Speaker 1: want to they want to win Philadelphia. I think Brett
Speaker 1: Brown is coaching first job. You know, if they don't
Speaker 1: go to the NBA at least the Eastern Conference finals.
Speaker 1: He might lose his job here. Milwaukee is great, we
Speaker 1: know that, But who is going to challenge Milwaukee here?
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's Philadelphia? I thought it was,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if it is. Yeah, mclovin, isn't
Speaker 1: this on the coach that Simmons an MBID can't work
Speaker 1: together to some extent. I would hope that they could divide.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you devised. Or you have a
Speaker 1: big man who's outside and you got a point guard
Speaker 1: who's great inside. It's just a weird combo there, and
Speaker 1: they just don't It doesn't fit. It's awkward when you
Speaker 1: watch that team play. Yeah. Can I give you two
Speaker 1: completely nonsensical trade scenarios as Andrew from Satin Island calling
Speaker 1: into the dam patch? Okay? Can I give you joellenb
Speaker 1: to Phoenix for Devin Booker? Okayning, but Phoenix has a
Speaker 1: big man. Yeah, we get eight and too. I didn't
Speaker 1: I forgot. Oh, you get eight Booker for Joe? Why
Speaker 1: would Phoenix do that? We'll give you Josh Richardson in
Speaker 1: that deal? And why would Day wouldn't know they wouldn't. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's seventy figures draft history. It's not near as good
Speaker 1: as it appears. You know, all the players that they
Speaker 1: draft either washed out or played well elsewhere. Going back
Speaker 1: from Michael Carter Williams, Joel Embad panned up for a bit,
Speaker 1: Joe lil Oka for it done, Ben Simmons, Marquel Foltz,
Speaker 1: Mikaal Bridges who they traded and got. Basically I hear
Speaker 1: Smith who doesn't play. You can go back. There's guys
Speaker 1: like they've had Lou Williams on their team, Andre Goodala,
Speaker 1: and they all moved on. Even the players they drafted
Speaker 1: that were good eventually just leave. It's a tough history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think the worst drafting team of all time
Speaker 1: h in any sport or just the NBA. Let's just
Speaker 1: keep it to the NBA. Okay, now are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: At least they got sim and mb like remember the
Speaker 1: old Cavs team, Like they they those guys were right
Speaker 1: there for them to take. There was no strategy. They
Speaker 1: just go, oh, Ben Simon's the best player, will take him.
Speaker 1: I mean, be brought the risk of his back injury,
Speaker 1: but you know, still extremely talented by none of this
Speaker 1: is on Sam Hinky, the process guy. They're all Colangelo
Speaker 1: Elton Brand Man. That's true, and then you know there's
Speaker 1: there's not a big or a high confidence level in
Speaker 1: Elton brand being able to make some moves here for
Speaker 1: the seventy six ers. But I'm curious if if those
Speaker 1: guys are off the market like anybody else you can have,
Speaker 1: but those two guys you're not. You're not gonna trade.
Speaker 1: They're untouchable. But I don't know, I'm curious. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's any big deal that goes down. I
Speaker 1: think the Sixers, you know, do they make something. The
Speaker 1: Lakers and Clippers, you know that possibility. I think Golden
Speaker 1: State's trying to get rid of DeAngelo Russell, But on
Speaker 1: the net doesn't seem like there's much going on. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: I googled the worst NBA draft history and the first
Speaker 1: game that came up was the LA Clippers. Unfortunately, Okay,
Speaker 1: and I could go through a lot of days, but
Speaker 1: we don't have the time. Okay, it was bad though,
Speaker 1: it's bad, especially in the eighties and nineties. Remember all
Speaker 1: over Candy when Michael Dark and Vince Carter and these
Speaker 1: guys are right behind them, and you can go Benjamin, Oh,
Speaker 1: you can go for days ben Wa Benjamin Yeah, bo Kimpbell.
Speaker 1: Oh the Sixers, the Sixers might be up there. No
Speaker 1: way there there in the history. There weren't the great
Speaker 1: No in the last twenty years years Didlie look for
Speaker 1: draft by the way, it was nobody would. That was
Speaker 1: the one draft with the whole first raft was that
Speaker 1: Nerlands Noel. One of those drafts had the one where
Speaker 1: the calf didn't make take Neurlands Noel and jelil Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they got jalil ok for but it was it
Speaker 1: was because the one and done and like it was
Speaker 1: bad drafts. Remember the Calves told Bennett and like, nobody,
Speaker 1: that's where you. I would watch U and LB play
Speaker 1: and I had no idea that Anthony Bennett was any good.
Speaker 1: Like I would see him and go, all right, he's
Speaker 1: a nice college player. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: when the Calves are taking him and I go, where's
Speaker 1: he playing? The like UNLB And I'm like, I've watched
Speaker 1: UNLB play and he didn't stand out. Yeah, pull he
Speaker 1: had the build of Zion Williamson without any of the
Speaker 1: athletic ability like he couldn't get rim. He could get
Speaker 1: net though, Oh yeah, he gets scrape the net like
Speaker 1: me and I always like that. You know, when you're young,
Speaker 1: you're going, hey, man, he can get rim and then
Speaker 1: you're just trying to get net. That was a big deal.
Speaker 1: Or you could slap the backboard when you went in
Speaker 1: for your layup like that was a big deal. Like,
Speaker 1: whoa man, you see that he slapped the backboard. Didn't
Speaker 1: mean you could play, yeah McGlenn. Yeah. It was like
Speaker 1: the worst draft ever, the one Aladipa went too, but
Speaker 1: he got He didn't do anything for the magic. There
Speaker 1: was some weird dude who win fifteen though? Who's in
Speaker 1: Milwaukee now in that draft? Now? The Greek freak? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah about the Sixers had it? Think Michael Carter, Willy
Speaker 1: Mike Rookie of the year. I think didn't he have
Speaker 1: a triple doubles first game? Yeah, he was on fire.
Speaker 1: He just couldn't shoot. But he I don't even think
Speaker 1: he's an NBA anymore. He's been around a lot. I
Speaker 1: think he's still around. Is he is? He playing somewhere
Speaker 1: out west? So I think so, all right, let me
Speaker 1: take a break. Mike Floria was going to join us.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about this seventeen game regular season schedule for
Speaker 1: the NFL, the players Association, the players are going to
Speaker 1: get together. I don't think they're voting on this today,
Speaker 1: but just the fact that you know they're starting to talk.
Speaker 1: I'm told that the seventeen game regular season schedule is
Speaker 1: really the big bargaining ship that the players have with
Speaker 1: the owners, and they're trying to milk it for as
Speaker 1: much as they can. We'll talk to Florio about that. Also,
Speaker 1: Mike wrote a column on the Joe Burrows situation with
Speaker 1: the Bengals, and he's there with me. It feels a
Speaker 1: little noncommittal with Joe Burrow and his side of things.
Speaker 1: Some of the quotes attached to Joe, his dad, Carson Palmer,
Speaker 1: whose brother Jordan Palmer is working with Joe Burrow. T J.
Speaker 1: Hushman Zada, former Bengal wide receiver. He's also working with
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. So we'll talk to Florio about that. Separate
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Speaker 1: lot of heat yesterday from the Bengals fans and read
Speaker 1: some of their tweets, some of the tweets that I
Speaker 1: could read. You know, Joe Burrow came on the show
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl, and you know we talked about
Speaker 1: going number one and the Bengals, and is that one
Speaker 1: and the same where you're going to a team. You
Speaker 1: know you're going number one, but you want to go
Speaker 1: to a team that's committed to winning. You know, Carson
Speaker 1: Palmer talked about the Bengals aren't committed to winning super Bowls.
Speaker 1: His brother Jordan is working out. Joe Burrow, I thought
Speaker 1: Joe was a little bit vague on the Bengals. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me let me just play the clip. Here's Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: That'll put it in context. Do you want to hear
Speaker 1: from the Bengals of whenever you're in the conversation for
Speaker 1: the number one pick, it's obviously a dream comes true,
Speaker 1: but they I know they have a process to go through.
Speaker 1: I have a process to go through. So that's it's
Speaker 1: a long ways the way, but it is being number
Speaker 1: one or going to the right team the most important
Speaker 1: to you combination of both. You know, you want to
Speaker 1: go number one, but you also want to go to
Speaker 1: a great organization. That's committed to winning, committed to winning
Speaker 1: super bowls. All right, let me bring in Mike Florial
Speaker 1: from Pro Football Talk. Mike, thanks for joining us. What
Speaker 1: are you hear in that comment from Joe Burrow? Well,
Speaker 1: I hear that at some level he is influenced by
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. And how could you not be? The threads
Speaker 1: are right in front of us. Carson Balmer says the
Speaker 1: Bengals aren't committed to winning a Super Bowl. He quit
Speaker 1: on the Bengals. He quote unquote retired until the opportunity
Speaker 1: came to trade him to the Raiders after Jason Campbell
Speaker 1: broke a collarbone back in two eleven. And all worked
Speaker 1: out just perfectly and the Bengals got a good return,
Speaker 1: but he was done. He was not going to play
Speaker 1: anymore because he was frustrated with the bengals lack of
Speaker 1: effort to try to win a Super Bowl. Jordan Palmer's
Speaker 1: brother is training Joe Burrow. It doesn't take many steps
Speaker 1: to get to the point where all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is saying those things like I want to
Speaker 1: play for a team that's committed to winning, and Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer, and this is a take that
Speaker 1: becomes less and less popular every year, but I really
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't like the draft. I don't like
Speaker 1: the fact that these guys are forced to go live
Speaker 1: in a certain city, play for a certain team, they
Speaker 1: get to pick their college. I don't and it's turned
Speaker 1: into this it's an honor. It's not an honor. It's not.
Speaker 1: You don't get to pick where you start your NFL career.
Speaker 1: And for some of these quarterbacks, I think that getting
Speaker 1: picked by a bad organization keeps you from ever becoming
Speaker 1: the guy you could have been. I say all the
Speaker 1: time in nineteen ninety nine, if Donald mcnavit been picked
Speaker 1: by the Bengals and at Kelly Smith has been picked
Speaker 1: by the Eagles, how different would those two careers have gone.
Speaker 1: We don't know, but I think it's a factor. And
Speaker 1: I think that especially when you are a guy like
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and you are at the top of the stack.
Speaker 1: I like it when the guy takes a stand and
Speaker 1: says I don't want to play for the team that
Speaker 1: has the first pick, like Eli Manning did, like John
Speaker 1: Elway did. I think it needs to happen more often.
Speaker 1: And you had some quotes in your column on Pro
Speaker 1: Football Talk dot Com, where you know we heard from
Speaker 1: his dad, Jimmy Burrow. Joe's dad, so he texts somebody
Speaker 1: at Fox nineteen in Cincinnati. I'm not sure where that
Speaker 1: information is coming from. Jimmy Burrow said, we're all excited
Speaker 1: that Joe has put himself in a position to be
Speaker 1: considered as a possible high draft choice. All right, well,
Speaker 1: that doesn't say anything about them. Here's the problem. Here's
Speaker 1: the problem, and this is I think driven by the
Speaker 1: way that fans react to players who buck the system. Right.
Speaker 1: We applaud owners when they make savvy business deals that
Speaker 1: result in more billions being piled on top of the
Speaker 1: billions they have so they can buy a two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars yacht and be titans of industry.
Speaker 1: When players try to make business decisions, fans get mad.
Speaker 1: Fans think players should just submit to the process. You
Speaker 1: get drafted, you happily go there. And the reality is,
Speaker 1: and you know, people who know Mike Brown firmly believe
Speaker 1: if he wants Joe Burrow, he's taken Joe Burrow. And
Speaker 1: if Joe Burrow don't like it, tough crap. Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: sit out the whole year and re enter the draft.
Speaker 1: So it could be that these maneuverings, if there are any,
Speaker 1: that are going to happen, fail and you got to
Speaker 1: go to Cincinnati. And if you have to choose between
Speaker 1: going to Cincinnati or sitting out the year, maybe you
Speaker 1: just bite the bullet and go to Cincinnati. And you
Speaker 1: don't want the fans to hate you walking through the door.
Speaker 1: I think that's why they're being vague about it. They
Speaker 1: don't want to come out and say we don't want
Speaker 1: Cincinnati because in the end they may have no choice.
Speaker 1: But also you have t J. Houshman Zada, who played
Speaker 1: with the Bengals. He's working with Joe Burrow wide receiver,
Speaker 1: and he said, hey, we're not disparaging the Bengals. But
Speaker 1: then he did say that they should strongly consider any
Speaker 1: gigantic crane offer they might get what Hey, Dan, I
Speaker 1: can tell you this, And I don't like to traffic
Speaker 1: in pre draft rumor and smoke screens because there's agendas,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's always a motivation to try to
Speaker 1: get something out there. And I'm always skeptical about the
Speaker 1: things I hear, but every once in a while you
Speaker 1: hear something that under the circumstances, given the talk, context,
Speaker 1: given the source, you can take it to the bank.
Speaker 1: Take this to the bank. Stephen Ross, the owner of
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, wants Joe Burrow, and I assume that has
Speaker 1: gotten back to Joe Burrow. So Miami and the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and the Bengals, if there's a way you can
Speaker 1: work it that you get to Miami, maybe that's the
Speaker 1: better choice. And that's why they keep it vague, because
Speaker 1: you don't know if a team wants to go up
Speaker 1: and get you, and the Dolphins have the draft capitol,
Speaker 1: you know. I asked Todd McShay yesterday. I said, if
Speaker 1: you're Joe Burrow, would you rather go to Cincinnati or
Speaker 1: Miami right now? Given the state of those organizations? He said, Miami,
Speaker 1: What do you think Miami? Look? Look, some of the
Speaker 1: folks in Cincinnati are getting upset that the national media
Speaker 1: is making this a thing. But let's be fair about it.
Speaker 1: If you got to choose between Cincinnati and pretty much
Speaker 1: any other team right now, Sorry Bengals, but I'm picking
Speaker 1: the other team right unless it's a team that has
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback that's going to be starting for years
Speaker 1: to come like the Chiefs. But all things being equal,
Speaker 1: I don't want to play for the Bengals. I agree
Speaker 1: with Carson Palmer's assessment. Why would Carson Palmer be lying
Speaker 1: about this. He lived it from two thousand and three
Speaker 1: through two thousand and ten, So yeah, I defer to that.
Speaker 1: And it messes with everything I've all always heard about
Speaker 1: Mike Brown and the Bengals that it's not about winning championships.
Speaker 1: It's about making money. And they make a ton of
Speaker 1: money and they don't spend a lot of money. It's
Speaker 1: a profitable business, period and some owners look at it
Speaker 1: that way, and some are less discreet than others about,
Speaker 1: you know, letting it be known that that is the motivation,
Speaker 1: not winning championships. Talking to Mike Florio co host a
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk with Chris Simms on the NBC Sports Network,
Speaker 1: the Jags with another game in London, and the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: fans always get upset with me, where I just say, hey,
Speaker 1: hold on for dear life, man, because now you've got
Speaker 1: an owner saying hey, I can make money in London
Speaker 1: and that helps me in building this whatever, this community
Speaker 1: around the stadium and all these big plans he has
Speaker 1: business wise, At what point do you think that they
Speaker 1: only do one game in London or they add a
Speaker 1: third game in London. What happens first with the Jags? Oh,
Speaker 1: I think it may go back to one game next year.
Speaker 1: I think that this really is an experiment, right, see
Speaker 1: how it goes. Let's see how two games with the
Speaker 1: same team there goes. Because I had somebody who was
Speaker 1: in London reach out for me and say, look, when
Speaker 1: I go to a Jaguars game, twenty five percent of
Speaker 1: the fans or Jaguars fans. The other people are just
Speaker 1: football fans, fans and the other team fans of any team.
Speaker 1: They just want to go to a game. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much of a fan base the Jaguars can build,
Speaker 1: but I think the vision for shod Con would be
Speaker 1: Remember how the Packers used to split their schedule between
Speaker 1: County Stadium in Milwaukee and lambeau Field. I could see
Speaker 1: four games in Jacksonville, four games in London. Make the
Speaker 1: playoffs host a game. You don't have to worry about
Speaker 1: all the extra logistics of taking teams to London to
Speaker 1: play a playoff game, and then you got to turn
Speaker 1: around the team the road team wins have to fly
Speaker 1: back across the ocean and maybe play a game in California.
Speaker 1: I mean, it would get ridiculous. Jacksonville's your home base.
Speaker 1: If you host playoff games, you're still the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: You play half your games in London, and I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised Dan at some point if there are two
Speaker 1: teams that do that, so you have the two stadiums,
Speaker 1: you split your schedule between your US base and London.
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. Otherwise, too many logistical problems,
Speaker 1: too many hurdles, too many hardships for players if they
Speaker 1: if they're I would I would much prefer to moving
Speaker 1: a team to London. This concept of having up to
Speaker 1: eight games with different teams, I think that's the better approach.
Speaker 1: But if anybody's gonna establish that base there, it would
Speaker 1: be the Jaguars playing half their games. I think that's
Speaker 1: where it ends up the seventeen game and NFL regular
Speaker 1: season schedule. I'm not sure where we stand on this,
Speaker 1: and I know the players are going to vote on this,
Speaker 1: to the the union's going to vote on this, but well,
Speaker 1: how do you think that vote would would play out?
Speaker 1: If I said to you know, the entire NFL player base.
Speaker 1: You guys want to play a seventeen game schedule and
Speaker 1: you'll get an extra game check. Well, it's got to
Speaker 1: be more than an extra game check to play an
Speaker 1: extra game. There's got to be a premium there. And
Speaker 1: it can't just be extra salary cap space, because then
Speaker 1: the stars get that money, the minimums have to go up.
Speaker 1: You have to ensure that that money is going to
Speaker 1: make its way to the average player who is out
Speaker 1: there grinding weekend and week out. Here's what's happening, Dan,
Speaker 1: And this is in a nutshell where things stand. The
Speaker 1: union and the league have negotiated a deal. They have
Speaker 1: a deal. You have to sell the deal to your client, though,
Speaker 1: and it's like a lawsuit. You set all a lawsuit,
Speaker 1: the lawyers work out a deal, and then they go
Speaker 1: sell the deal to their clients. The NFLPA is trying
Speaker 1: to sell the deal to its client. The problem is
Speaker 1: the NFLPA is getting unexpected pushback from the client and
Speaker 1: so there hasn't been a vote yet. Because they did
Speaker 1: a vote, they're afraid it would be no. So they're
Speaker 1: trying to work this through. And here's the reality. Here's
Speaker 1: what the union has to ask itself, will we take
Speaker 1: a work stoppage, lockout, or strike and actually miss game checks.
Speaker 1: If you won't miss game checks and football games, then
Speaker 1: why take the best deal on the brink of missing
Speaker 1: game checks when you can take the best deal now
Speaker 1: at a time when that can be parlayed into new
Speaker 1: TV deals that are done before the presidential election hurts
Speaker 1: ratings before our session, which is being expected by the
Speaker 1: folks behind the curtain who accounting the money for the NFL,
Speaker 1: before the budgets getting pined because of that, they want
Speaker 1: to turn this around now. I think d Smith understands
Speaker 1: when push comes to shove, these guys are going to
Speaker 1: take seventeen games because they're not going to miss game
Speaker 1: checks to take a stand. So let's just do it
Speaker 1: now and then let's get billions more on these TV
Speaker 1: deals that will be negotiated immediately after this is done.
Speaker 1: That's what you've got to sell these guys on, and
Speaker 1: he hasn't been able to do it yet. Final question,
Speaker 1: The most interesting offseason quarterback storyline is, without question, where
Speaker 1: does hashtag Tommy go? Where does he go? Right? Because
Speaker 1: I think, look Dan in New England, he's only going back.
Speaker 1: If Bill Belichick gets on a knee and applies his
Speaker 1: lips to the butt cheeks each side of Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: he's sick of dealing with being beaten down by this
Speaker 1: guy for twenty years. Bill Belichick is who he is.
Speaker 1: He wants some appreciation, some acknowledgement, some recognition. Without that,
Speaker 1: I think he's leaving. And we were throwing this around
Speaker 1: today on PFT lot because Sims knows Kyle Shanahan really well.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm of the mindset that Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: needs to be thinking about potential upgrades at the quarterback position,
Speaker 1: because championship quarterbacks make championship throws, and Garoppolo had one
Speaker 1: that he could have made and he didn't. If you're
Speaker 1: Shanahan and you pick up your cell phone and it's
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and he says, I'd really like to come
Speaker 1: play for the team that I rooted for growing up.
Speaker 1: I think that with me, we can win championship this year.
Speaker 1: What do you say, if you're Kyle Shanahan, what do
Speaker 1: you say to that? What do you say? I'd be
Speaker 1: tempted to say yes if I were Kyle Shannon. Do
Speaker 1: you think that the Niners would have won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl with Tom Brady. Yes, okay, without question, Okay don't
Speaker 1: you Yes, I do, I do. I just don't know,
Speaker 1: because Belichick would love to get Garoppolo back. Right, wouldn't
Speaker 1: that be something traded back to Belichick? Right, wouldn't be
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know, if Belichick saw
Speaker 1: enough where he goes No, you know, on second thought,
Speaker 1: I'll let you keep Garoppolo in San Francisco. Hey, Dan,
Speaker 1: in all serious a seriousness, note the way that the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers structure these contracts. They have until April
Speaker 1: one to make a decision on Garoppolo. That's an eternity
Speaker 1: in the NFL offseason. You can wait to see what
Speaker 1: plays out with Brady. You can wait to see what
Speaker 1: other free agents are out there. You can you could
Speaker 1: maybe make a subtle phone call to the Vikings and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're not going to extend Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: we'll take him here. Kyle Shannahan said last week the
Speaker 1: reason he didn't evaluate Patrick Mahomes in twenty seventeen is
Speaker 1: he was certain he was gonna get Kirk Cousins in
Speaker 1: free agency a year later. And that's the those thing
Speaker 1: they could do. They give Garoppolo one more year and
Speaker 1: then go get Kirk Cousins if he doesn't sign an
Speaker 1: extension in Minnesota. I'm telling you, look, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: Garoppolo is a week link on that team, and at
Speaker 1: some point in nineers fans get upset. It's like, folks,
Speaker 1: you should want your team to get better, and if
Speaker 1: there's a better option out there at quarterback, why don't
Speaker 1: you want it. I don't know if it would ever happen,
Speaker 1: but it's fun talking about it. Wouldn't be great, would
Speaker 1: it be great? It would be great. I root for chaos, right,
Speaker 1: It keeps us, It keeps us occupied. If you're chaos.
Speaker 1: Did you like the off season better than the regular season? Oh,
Speaker 1: we get we make we have more traffic, make more
Speaker 1: money in the offseason. I mean that's because because there's
Speaker 1: no football, so it's just rumor all the football fans.
Speaker 1: When you don't have that outlet every week, you're constantly
Speaker 1: trying to check in to see what happens. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: we we'll have our biggest month of the year in March,
Speaker 1: and then in April and then even in May, June
Speaker 1: and July. When people don't have their football fix, they
Speaker 1: go look for whatever they can get. Great to talk
Speaker 1: to you again, Mike, Thank you always. That's Mike Florio,
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Speaker 1: my god, the play of the day that day? Come on,
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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, Gary, Indiana and Villanova loses. Butler's got Seaton Hall,
Speaker 1: and Seaton Hall's playing really well and got one of
Speaker 1: the top players in the country. All right, poll question,
Speaker 1: what are we going with? McLevin? How about NBA? Is
Speaker 1: there anybody outside of the Big three the Lakers, Clippers,
Speaker 1: and Bucks that can make the finals? Choice being the Heat,
Speaker 1: the Celtics, the Raptors, the Nuggets. Uh in Toronto not
Speaker 1: Houston and Easton? Sorry but yeah, he said, I guess
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is that small ball gonna work? I
Speaker 1: actually don't understand. Well, there's a lot riding on this
Speaker 1: because you know, you got Mike d'antoni's job is on
Speaker 1: the line, So this is gonna win now. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they yes, they probably have to go to the Western
Speaker 1: Conference finals. It feels like, but they're all in on
Speaker 1: small ball. I feel like they're still going to have
Speaker 1: to get a big guy. You know, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: be spending the money you did with Clint Capella. But
Speaker 1: you know, at some point, and I've said this before,
Speaker 1: everybody shooting threes, Eventually somebody's gonna go, now, why don't
Speaker 1: you deal with us? And we're gonna have inside presence here,
Speaker 1: like we're gonna we're gonna do something that's you know,
Speaker 1: different than everybody else. Everybody want to have a wide
Speaker 1: open offense in the NFL. And I said, what happens
Speaker 1: when somebody runs the football, controls the clock, makes you pay, pounds,
Speaker 1: you down. You know, eventually somebody gets around too that.
Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens did that, But they also had
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson lead the league, and you know, touchdowns, that's
Speaker 1: why they were great. If he doesn't have half of
Speaker 1: those touchdowns or three quarters of those touchdowns, then maybe
Speaker 1: it's a different story for the Ravens during the regular season.
Speaker 1: But they dominated you. The Niners dominated you. With their
Speaker 1: running attack there. So eventually you get to a point
Speaker 1: where you go, why don't we do something different? I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the gut feeling I have, And maybe that's what
Speaker 1: Houston's doing. They're doing something different. They had sixty three
Speaker 1: point attempts the other night and they made twenty and
Speaker 1: they were thrilled with that. Yeah, po Nobody talks about Toronto,
Speaker 1: but Pascal Siakama, his stats arens exactly what what what
Speaker 1: the last year? You know, with Kauai and they still
Speaker 1: got Lowery Van Vleete, Abaca and Agobe with Gasol that
Speaker 1: nobody talks about them though, because they got their attention
Speaker 1: last year. But they could easily upset somebody. And I
Speaker 1: don't even be that big of an upset, I don't think.
Speaker 1: And you know that Nick Nurse is maybe the best
Speaker 1: coach in the NBA or on the short list. He's
Speaker 1: done a great job with that. Siakam is a wonderful
Speaker 1: player to watch, and you know, we sort of forget
Speaker 1: about Toronto until they're right there in front of you,
Speaker 1: and then you go, oh, okay, and then you see
Speaker 1: that they have you know, quality team there, depth there
Speaker 1: and a surprising team. What about the Heat and I
Speaker 1: like the heat I do. It feels like that's a team.
Speaker 1: But I wondered if they were going to trade Tyler Hero.
Speaker 1: I don't you know. There was there was talk that
Speaker 1: maybe he's available, but I don't know who you're getting
Speaker 1: just saying that that. This is just sort of trade
Speaker 1: chatter here. But it feels like if there's nothing to
Speaker 1: talk about, then we just sort of go, maybe that guy,
Speaker 1: maybe Buddy Heels will be traded, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: But then we start to throw things out because there
Speaker 1: aren't enough marquee names to talk about when it comes
Speaker 1: to the trade deadline. Yeah, I'm the club Marcus Morris
Speaker 1: seems like a real thing though. Yeah, but it's the Knicks,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they know what they're doing,
Speaker 1: you know, just fired your GM. Yeah, what are they
Speaker 1: going to do there? I know that they're all in
Speaker 1: on Jerry. But I heard an interesting theory let me
Speaker 1: float down on Twitter that Rich Paul would be the
Speaker 1: perfect GM of the the Lebrons. Agent had to Clutch Sports,
Speaker 1: would be the best guy that they could hire. Why
Speaker 1: would he take that jump? Well, a lot of agents
Speaker 1: are moving on the team side at Brody band Wagon
Speaker 1: in I know, but why would he do that? I
Speaker 1: mean that used to be at a steam place to be. Oh,
Speaker 1: I know, but it may not be to Rich Paul.
Speaker 1: It is to people who are over the age of fifty.
Speaker 1: I have you got new ownership in there, then I
Speaker 1: would say, all right, I'd consider that. Not with this ownership,
Speaker 1: because that's another owner who thinks he's smart when it
Speaker 1: comes to basketball. The smart owners are smart enough to
Speaker 1: let somebody who does know more than them get involved
Speaker 1: in all these decisions. Now they want the Angelo Russell
Speaker 1: good luck? What about Missaiyu Jerry? Would you jump over
Speaker 1: the Knicks get to a bigger market than Toronto? No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go in there with that ownership.
Speaker 1: I don't unless you give me a piece of the ownership.
Speaker 1: All right, Brooklyn's got a brighter future than the Knicks.
Speaker 1: Do you know who should take over the Knicks? Theo Epstein.
Speaker 1: That's great. He took over the Red Sox, he took
Speaker 1: over the Cubs. That's because his flunky, Johnny to put
Speaker 1: Podessa did so well with the Browns though when he
Speaker 1: switched for it. Just throwing that out there, it's theo
Speaker 1: Epstein the Cubs GM maybe he takes over I'm hearing
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