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Speaker 1: get into were they.

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Speaker 2: All just a bunch of tall tails, some of Damian

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Speaker 2: Lillard talk, and some early NFL season projections, as there's

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Speaker 2: nothing else to talk about in July.

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Speaker 1: A little baseball as well. VJ, how are you doing,

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Speaker 1: my good friend. I'm doing I'll standing as always.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for asking, what's up playing? I'm doing well. I

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Speaker 1: know this. I know you have an opending on NBA

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Speaker 1: Summer League.

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Speaker 2: But first, as we sit here and watch the Detroit

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Speaker 2: with about six minutes left, and that's the type of

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Speaker 2: seacon see in Summer League. Somebody just banked in a

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Speaker 2: three for the Orlando Magic, and Jalen Sugs and Cole Anthony.

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Speaker 1: Look on and cheer out in law Vegas.

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Speaker 2: But oh wow, Anthony Black, congratulations to you the new

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Speaker 2: first round pick for the Orlando Magic.

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting shot.

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Speaker 2: Well, yesterday was an interesting day out there in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I was at the last sellout of Summer League, a

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Speaker 2: after an earthquake happened, and Zion Williamson made.

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Speaker 1: His Summer League debut.

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Speaker 2: And then later on that evening, Kawhi Leonard and Paul

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Speaker 1: Busy day in NBA history. Well, yesterday we had another one.

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Speaker 2: Victor wen Benyama made his NBA Summer League debut, which

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Speaker 2: it's not exactly quite the same as his professional debut,

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Speaker 2: so let's not necessarily go with that.

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Speaker 1: I've seen people saying it that's wrong.

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Speaker 2: Now that we've got that out of the way, it

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Speaker 2: was his summer league debut. VJ, what were your initial

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Speaker 1: Brought casting lot of prime time.

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Speaker 2: That you had the opportunity to see And I'm not

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Speaker 2: just making a dig at you.

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Speaker 1: Nobody could have.

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Speaker 2: They were in France, right, so now that they're playing

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Speaker 2: in Vegas, he's playing Vegas getting opportunity to see him

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Speaker 2: live and then live in color on your television screen.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on list slim.

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Speaker 4: He looked nervous, you know, but that was expected. But

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Speaker 4: he looked what I thought he would look like. I'm

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Speaker 4: not even looking at the stat line or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: I reluctantly, as you've already mentioned, have a problem with

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Speaker 4: got a problem with Summerleague. We'll talk about that later.

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Speaker 4: But I reluctily went back at about two o'clock this

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Speaker 4: you know, actually, you know, come on and talk about it.

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Speaker 4: I thought he played well, he moves well, he handles

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Speaker 4: you ask me, is Victor ready NBA ready? Now, No,

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Speaker 4: he's not. He's in the league, he will start, he

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Speaker 4: will play. He's their franchise guy. That does not mean

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Speaker 4: that you're NBA ready. Lebron James was NBA ready. Kevin

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Speaker 1: He's not NBA ready. So that's why I hate.

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Speaker 4: The the double p man, potential, and prospect are just

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Speaker 4: But I walked away going, Okay, you know, BROB moves well,

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Speaker 4: he can handle. You can see nice pass when he penetrated.

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Speaker 1: Stuff like that. You see.

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Speaker 2: The other the one that you didn't mention in your

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Speaker 1: Out of everybody in the world, all the people in

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Speaker 2: I saw Victor winn Binyama yesterday and I mean, to me,

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Speaker 2: Like one of my uh, one of my friends has

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Speaker 2: this good phrase, watch your eyes.

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Speaker 1: What do your eyes tell you?

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Speaker 2: The art test, Well, what my eye test for Victor

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Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm betting under on his rebounds every game.

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Speaker 2: But the thing that I saw was him almost hit

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Speaker 2: School if I'm not mistaking, it was Brandon Miller. Oh Miller,

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Speaker 4: And the commentator said, oh, got a little guy on him,

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Speaker 4: But you can see Brandon Miller's strength alone wasn't enough

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Speaker 4: sucking down at that point and swiping down. Those are

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Speaker 1: I don't see that happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The day you walk in, the day you walk in.

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Speaker 2: that's what it comes down to. How many times, with

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Speaker 2: seven checonds left on the shot clock, can I pass

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Speaker 2: These guys who come in the league and generally have

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant has been shooting free throw line jumpers since

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, basically.

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Speaker 2: So that's the type of thing I see concerned about

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Speaker 2: Victor Webinyama.

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Speaker 1: But again, this is the summer league.

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Speaker 2: There's really only you can only confirm the bias that

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Speaker 2: you had going in on summer league, right.

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Speaker 1: No, It's like I saw Scoop and he looked like

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Speaker 2: He was moving around good, I understand, but just he

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Speaker 2: looked comfortable with the ball. He's driving the lane looks

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Speaker 2: good defensively, and of course again it's summer league night.

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Speaker 1: Like this, this is like an enterprise commercial.

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Speaker 2: Eighty percent of these people are going proing something other

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Speaker 2: playing asistant coach.

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Speaker 1: You know, jeez, Louise speaking up.

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Speaker 2: This is this is a truth now, I know, but

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Speaker 2: this is a this is unfair, but I'm gonna do

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Speaker 2: it anyway. James book Night, Good night, gracious, get your

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Speaker 1: The one thing that everybody.

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Speaker 2: Tuned in to watch Victor Wenbinyama, and the problem was

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Speaker 1: Miller at James Booknight from his time in Connecticut.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, you're a little old to be

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Speaker 2: I think that's what happened, and then if people didn't

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Speaker 2: To be a question because prior to two weeks ago

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Speaker 2: Is he seven to six when it's seventy eighteen feet

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Speaker 1: No one's gonna be able to stay. He'll stand and

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Speaker 2: It's not a long list of dudes in the NBA

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Speaker 4: Something else I didn't see from him last night, explosiveness.

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Speaker 2: Well, and congratulations to his his coach, per Adrian Roderanowski.

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Speaker 2: Spurs coach Greg Popovich just signed a five year deal

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie after, especially after the video came out.

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Speaker 2: After the video came out with with Britney Spears and

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Speaker 2: Victor Winnbin yama I and then AP report. Y'all see

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Speaker 1: The one of the biggest supposed to be out there.

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Speaker 1: He's up there. It's up there.

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Speaker 2: He They said, rather that it was determined that Britney

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Speaker 2: I just I was trying to think of like a

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Speaker 2: But I just figured I just let the other I

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Speaker 1: That was good. Chris, Hey, Brandon, I ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: Your two your two step with your finger with your

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Speaker 4: double finger point in the air, on point man. Very empty,

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Speaker 4: very cribs, empty cribs. Yeah, yeah, very very empty cribs. MVTV, MTV.

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Speaker 1: Chris whatever, but I love them. MVT.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, not official media, but we were rocking out here

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Speaker 4: The whole Britney Spears thing was like when I first

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Speaker 1: Touch him like you don't know him like that? Why

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Speaker 4: and he didn't do anything.

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Speaker 4: Name is attached to Britney Spears and hit me baby

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Speaker 1: I liked that. I wouldn't have thought of that one.

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Speaker 1: It's fine. How are you serious? It's one of the

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Speaker 2: Because you know how he felt, you know how you

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Speaker 1: You know, she used to be very, very very popular

438
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Speaker 1: in the world. She was.

439
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 2: I can remember when everything was either her or Christina Aguilera, that.

440
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Speaker 1: Is the two.

441
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 2: There you go, big day for Kentwood, Louisiana, thirty minutes

442
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 2: fromhere I grew up.

443
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,879
Speaker 1: Is that where she's from. Yep, we used to play.

444
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,679
Speaker 2: We used to like participate again like track me to

445
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 2: stuff against kent Wood High.

446
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Speaker 1: Are you a Britney Spirits fan or where you a fan?

447
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Speaker 2: I mean, I always we're about the same age was making music.

448
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,919
Speaker 2: It was my generation. You know what I'm saying, So

449
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 2: like so yes or no? I mean, I wouldn't say

450
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 2: I was a fan. I'm familiar with their music.

451
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 1: I didn't.

452
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 7: I wasn't rushing out like, oh my god, I got

453
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 7: her about. We're about the same age. I think, my

454
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 7: you might have fallen into my cage. You're not a

455
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Speaker 7: fan of the music, be you're fan of her?

456
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Speaker 2: Well, It's like I've also just been aware of her

457
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 2: since she was like Britney Jean at like eight years old.

458
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Speaker 1: I'm from like again, she grew up half an hour

459
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 1: fro where I'm from.

460
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Speaker 8: Ok.

461
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Speaker 1: You know, So it's like, so you're a fan, what

462
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 1: are you trying to do here? Nothing?

463
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Speaker 2: I'm just asking where you were Britney Spears because no, no, no, no,

464
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 2: you're not just asked because you've asked me now three

465
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 2: separate times. Well, I gave you the answer that it's required.

466
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Speaker 2: So what, like, I'll you just get to the bottom

467
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Speaker 2: of what you're trying to do here. I'm not trying

468
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 2: to do that, all right, silence if you were a

469
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Speaker 2: Britney Spears fan, bro, that's all. I'm just trying to

470
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Speaker 2: figure out what you're trying to do here.

471
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Speaker 1: I was. I'm surprised you knew the song. It's not

472
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Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty five? Yeah? Oh is that with that

473
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Speaker 1: a dick?

474
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Speaker 7: Come on, man, he didn't get toxic? No, you know,

475
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Speaker 7: I didn't get what's toxic for songs?

476
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Speaker 1: What's toxic? Yeah? That was the one Brandon brought up.

477
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well it's a good song. Okay. I'm not

478
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: a Britney Spirits fan, so I just know who she is? Right,

479
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 1: but you knew that song? What it hit me? One

480
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 1: more time? That thing was on the radio, right you

481
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: and you know episode we've done this. We've done this

482
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Speaker 1: dance before. VJ. I'm not a fan of him. What's that?

483
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Speaker 2: And then you come back for the next break, and

484
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 2: then the next three breaks it comes back and it's like, ooh,

485
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Speaker 2: this was my song. And then it'd be like, oh,

486
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Speaker 2: you know what this the other day I was dropping

487
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Speaker 2: my kids off at school and then it was a

488
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 2: red light and I heard this song come on.

489
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: I had to roll the windows down. It was my jam.

490
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: And he's like, ooh you know what? No, no, no.

491
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Speaker 2: Back in nineteen eighty five, but I was back in Woodbridge, VA,

492
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 2: me and my homeboys. We used to play this on

493
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Speaker 2: the way to football practice. You know, I'm saying, make

494
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 2: sure I didn't fumble the ball.

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Speaker 1: No, this is out.

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Speaker 9: We still listen to Brittany Spears on the way to

497
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Speaker 9: football practice.

498
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Speaker 1: But the point is VJ has done this before where

499
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Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know who that is. I don't

500
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: listen to that. I don't know what that is. And

501
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it's like wait a minute.

502
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: They Alanna Braids and the Tavia Van Rays are playing

503
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 2: in an al matchup right now.

504
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 1: They got two on two out in the bottom of

505
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: the first inning. That's just a preview.

506
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Speaker 2: What more to come from Steve to say, you're coming

507
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 2: up right now in the world of sports, Steve, what's

508
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: going on my guy?

509
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Speaker 1: Hello, gentlemen.

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Speaker 10: That's on Fox TV for much of the country. They've

511
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 10: just ended the first inning, Braves at Raves scoreless. The

512
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 10: Atlanta Braves, with a win tonight, will have a record

513
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 10: of sixty and twenty eight. The All Star Break comes

514
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 10: after tomorrow's games, although for the Angels and Dodgers, the

515
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 10: All Star breaks starts after tonight. They'll play each other

516
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 10: at LA and then that's it for their first half schedule.

517
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 10: Better for the Halos, they've lost eight of their last nine.

518
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 9: After all.

519
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,959
Speaker 10: Their game starts up in an hour and a half

520
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 10: in Los Angeles.

521
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 9: The Mets have the late game. Mets have won six

522
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Speaker 9: in a row.

523
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Speaker 10: They're at San Diego against Blake Snell and the Padres

524
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 10: ten pm Eastern time. By the way, for part of

525
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 10: the country, the other game on Fox TV right now.

526
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 10: Houston already out to a two to nothing lead on

527
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Speaker 10: the Seattle Mariners bottom of the first. Seattle will be

528
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 10: hosting the MLB All Star Game Tuesday nights on Fox TV.

529
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Speaker 10: Quite a game on FS one today. Cincinnati was an

530
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 10: eight to five winner at Milwaukee, so the Reds first

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Speaker 10: place in the NL Central, now two games ahead of

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Speaker 10: the Brewers. Cleveland Guardians are winning seven to four over

533
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 10: the Royals in the top of the eighth. The Twins

534
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 10: have already lost the Twins War tied for first in

535
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Speaker 10: the AL Central with the Guardians. Baltimore won at Minnesota

536
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 10: six to two. The Nationals trying to get into the

537
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Speaker 10: wing column. They've lost five straight. Washington is winning eight

538
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 10: three over the Texas Rangers. In the top of the ninth,

539
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 10: Miami beat Philadelphia five to three. D h Bryce Harper

540
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 10: of the Phillies left after being hit by pitch on

541
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Speaker 10: the elbow. The Arizona Diamondbacks started the day first place

542
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Speaker 10: in the NL West, game over the Dodgers. Arizona has

543
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Speaker 10: won in ten innings against Pittsburgh three to two. The

544
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Speaker 10: Pirates have lost five straight. Yankees sixty three winners over

545
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Speaker 10: the Cubs. Winning pitcher Garrett Cole now nine and two,

546
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 10: and yes, there was a combined no hitter in Detroit

547
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 10: today first game of the day went two nothing Tigers

548
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 10: over the Blue Jays. Detroit scored the two runs in

549
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 10: the bottom of the first start of the game was

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Speaker 10: delayed almost an hour and a half by rain. When

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Speaker 10: they finally began, the top of the first inning started

552
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 10: with a hit, batter and a walk. Matt Manning in

553
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 10: fact walked three and was pulled in the seventh inning

554
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 10: with two outs. When he was pulled, did not realize

555
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 10: he had a no hitter going. Two pitchers finished it

556
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 10: up for him to save to Alex Lang his thirteenth

557
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 10: And yes, as you referred earlier, the Spurs have given

558
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 10: coach Greg Popovich a new five year contract.

559
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 2: Back to you, my best, Steve, I'm over here breaking up. Sorry,

560
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't happen in the middle of a second.

561
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Speaker 10: As a fan of sports radio and of sports, if

562
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 10: it happens, say.

563
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: It all right.

564
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 2: I never want to step on Steve disaegus corner. He's

565
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: the best in the business and I'm just you know,

566
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: you know, I'm.

567
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 9: Just being a live radio show. Take advantage of it.

568
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 2: Thanks Buddy Martin and Bja coming to you live from

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Speaker 2: the Tyraq dot Com Studios, BJA.

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00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: You want to move on to let's talk about the

571
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: NBA currently.

572
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 2: This is actually something we need to talk about as

573
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: an issue that like some other conversation for another day.

574
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: How in any given moment, the fifth biggest star in

575
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: the NBA actively doesn't play in the NBA, right Like

576
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: Victor Bama is a big, huge star at the NBA,

577
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: He's never played a minute anyway, talking my guys, dad

578
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: played a minute.

579
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: You like the move that the Dallas Mavericks made.

580
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like what Dallas is doing here, period, man,

581
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 4: And I was waiting to see they got a lot

582
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 4: of flat for re signing Kyrie. I thought the deal

583
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 4: worked for both parties, and I thought it was the

584
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 4: deal that should have happened for both parties. That you

585
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 4: keep him there, give him a whole off season, give

586
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 4: him a whole training camp, give him a whole summer

587
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 4: working out with each other with him and Luca, who

588
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 4: just actually got engaged to his long term girlfriend in Slavena, congratulations.

589
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: Yep, Luca, I think yesterday, day before yesterday.

590
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 4: But I look at this roster and I'm like, Okay,

591
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 4: I like what they're adding around.

592
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: They need toughness. They need defense.

593
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 4: And when they traded away Reggie Bullock, there was a

594
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 4: head scratching of me because he's a knockdown shooter. Plus

595
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 4: Tar Hill got love for one playing my nephew Kendall

596
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 4: know him and his family out of North Carolina. But

597
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: then when you added Seth Curry, I said, okay, they

598
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 4: bring Seth Curry back. Now you replace that shooter. The

599
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 4: Grant Williams signing recently really made my eyebrows go up

600
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 4: and say, okay, Now, I think great Ones is one

601
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 4: of the big whiners in baseball.

602
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: The guy's always mad.

603
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 4: Excuse me, basketball, the guy's always mad and pissed off

604
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 4: at something. He is always upset at something like every call,

605
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 4: every everything that happens on the court, he's not happy

606
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 4: with it.

607
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: Would you get a knockdown corner.

608
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 4: Shooter, you get a good three point shooter, you get

609
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 4: a defender, you get a guy that's gonna get gritty,

610
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 4: get dirty. You're playing some high octane officers in the

611
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 4: Western Conference. I thought it was really good and it

612
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 4: made me kind of look at it and go, okay,

613
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 4: I see what Dallas is doing. Still, Dwight Powell, you

614
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 4: still get You got Seth Curry. I mean, I just

615
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: I just like the way that they're trying to put

616
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 4: pieces around Luca and Kyrie. And to me, it's slid

617
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 4: of maybe a spot or two up where I would

618
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 4: initially have had them after free agency or when free

619
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 4: agency started then where they are now. I slid them

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00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 4: up a couple of rungs, Like, Okay, if they play

621
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Speaker 4: a whole season together, Kyrie actwright, Luca comes in in

622
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 4: shape and ready to play and be a professional. You

623
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 4: are some pieces here, man, that can make some noise

624
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 4: in April.

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00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: Man.

626
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: Just everybody knows the reason why VJ said baseball is

627
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: because probably because he was looking at the back of

628
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: my head is I was staring at the Royals Guardians

629
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: up in your pumping my fast as the outfield assist

630
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: from the left fielder in the Guardians game guns down

631
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: the Royals as they almost took the tide. The game

632
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: up seven to seven right there and ends up being

633
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: seven to six at the top ninth inning.

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Speaker 1: And I have a sizable wager on the Guardian.

635
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: So there we go with that. I feel great about

636
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: that one. Thank you Cleveland. Anyway, Grant Williams, Man, I

637
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: don't know what the Celtics are doing.

638
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: Thank you, It doesn't make much sense to me. Nope.

639
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: Grant Williams is a were talked about him last week,

640
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: a Bruce Brown type of player. If you have a

641
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: championship level roster, Grant Williams is such an addition because

642
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 2: he is a intelligent. Okay, he's not going to make

643
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: dumb mistakes overwhelmingly. B he's a pretty good corner three

644
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: point shooter, so he's gonna require spacing and then C,

645
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: which is probably the most important, and I'm going in

646
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 2: backwards order.

647
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: He can guard.

648
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: There was times in last year's postseason he was guarding James.

649
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 2: There were times he's guarding doing a bead. He was guarding.

650
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: He can do everything in that way. He's like the

651
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: I got to come up with something like the Bruce

652
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: Brown All Stars or whatever. Like these guys who they

653
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: fit in and at the right number. They are great

654
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: pieces for a championship level team because they do the

655
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: little things. They do the little things and they're really

656
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: smart about it. You look at that backcourt, Kyrie Luca,

657
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: good luck playing defense. Even if everything you said goes

658
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: absolutely correct. One wing right, so now you have a

659
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: perimeter defender somebody could slide in front of guys and

660
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: that that is something you're going to need in this

661
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: Western Conference for Boston. It's just again what I said.

662
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: I said that I don't know what they're doing. I

663
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: do know what they're doing.

664
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: I was about to tell you they're going on with Joe.

665
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: They're laying in every every every every every chip with Joe.

666
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: They're going all offense. They're not defense anymore.

667
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: And and hey, look, I mean this is what Bray.

668
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: You know what though Brad Steves, he gave him the endorsement.

669
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, if they hire some assistant

670
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: coaches there, you gotta be thinking, you gotta be hoping.

671
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: I should say that that Joe Mizzoula is going to improve.

672
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: And I mean, to be fair, he had very rough

673
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: moments in the playoffs, but he also had some good ones. Right,

674
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: you gotta take it the good with the I mean, well,

675
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: the bad with the little good that was there.

676
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: It was a lot more bad than good.

677
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: But again, a lot of it is figuring out the

678
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: job on the fly, but the idea, leaning all the

679
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: way in to his concepts, leaning it to his ideas.

680
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: I like it as an organization for Boston. You have

681
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: a clear message, right you have. There's no two timetable situation.

682
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: There's no Hey, look how we used to do things.

683
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: That's gone. You just better hope that you are betting

684
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: on the right the right guy right because you're leaning

685
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: all the way in. Now you got the heart and soul.

686
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: Marcus Schmart gone. And what happened last postseason. Everybody made

687
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: fun of him for it, but Graham Williams was.

688
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 4: Showing some hard He was the young I was about

689
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 4: to say, he's the great fruit of the team. He's

690
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: the only one who got in Jimmy Butler's face, and

691
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 4: not only got in his face, went forehead to forehead

692
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 4: with Jimmy Butler. And I love the way how the

693
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 4: refs just let it play out. No technicals, nobody throwing,

694
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 4: no punches. Wasn't even those shoves, just two grown ass

695
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 4: men in a high octane situation trying to get to

696
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 4: the pinnacle event of your sport, and that's the NBA Finals.

697
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 4: And he was the only one who would even open

698
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: his mouth and step in Jimmy Butler or at least

699
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 4: try to intimidate somebody. Jason Tatum was far from doing it.

700
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: Jalen Brown ain't never gonna do it, and you get

701
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 4: rid of this guy.

702
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: I just they're trading defense for offense, and you better

703
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: be careful with that because we even saw it in

704
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals.

705
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: You gotta stop people from scoring. You can't just outscore people.

706
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: You gotta be able to play defense.

707
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a weird move for me, but again, as

708
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: a plan, and I would say this a lot of times,

709
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: just having a plan can be a good plan. Yeah,

710
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Because there's a lot of

711
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: times that people are making moves to happen and then aggregate.

712
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: It is like this, none of these moves make any sense.

713
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: What are we doing here?

714
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: They're still in the market for Trey Tumar and watch

715
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: Boston as a team that's gonna still make I don't

716
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: know if they get in Dame Lillard, but something else

717
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: is still going to happen here because they were already

718
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: trying to go for for PG and they were They've

719
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 4: already been trying to shop off Malcolm Brockman like they

720
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: they're not done. I don't think Boston's done, but I

721
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: just don't like the two moves that they've made so far.

722
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: Right, now, the NBA is doing a unveiling of the

723
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: n Season Tournament. They had just now five guys trying

724
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: to lift up a sheet and it didn't seem to

725
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: have the most coordination that Trey Young, Anthony Edwards, KKNAM,

726
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: Paolo Bancho, and Victor Win Binyama, one of which has

727
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: never played an NBA game.

728
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: I'll let you guess, but.

729
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: The Western groups and the Eastern groups will be revealed next.

730
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: Also revealed next Martin vd's opinion on the NBA In

731
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: Season Tournament Fox Sports Radio Martin and VJ coming to

732
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: you live from the Tireck dot Com studios. The NBA

733
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: n Season Tournament groups are in the process of being

734
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: announced right now. Group A has the Suns, the Lakers,

735
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: and two other teams that I can't remember. Group B Nuggets, Clippers, Pelicans.

736
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: Essentially what we're gonna be at the end of this, again,

737
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: another TV show was probably could have been an email

738
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: or a press release in this NBA In Season Tournament

739
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: Reveals show here, so I can't imagine that it's super

740
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: compelling television to watch at the moment as we sit

741
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: here with the sound down and get rest. Group B Nuggets, Clippers, Pelicans, Mavericks,

742
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: Rockets VJ. Eventually this will be six groups of five

743
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: teams each. All those six groups will be within the

744
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: same conference, so we're looking at twelve total groups I'm sorry,

745
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: three groups total, all in the same conference, and the

746
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: team's placed in the groups based on the final standings

747
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: of last season. Each group will then have one of

748
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: the top three seeds from the previous season, one through

749
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: four through six, one that finished seven to ninth, one

750
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: that finished ten to twelve, another one thirteenth to fifteen.

751
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: So it's supposed to be pretty spread out.

752
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: Although as you sit here and look at it, this

753
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: breakdown has gress group see being the Kings, the Warriors,

754
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: and the Timberwolves right there, and that seems like it's

755
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: probably a pretty strong group, even though they all did

756
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: fall where they fell in the standings. And that's the

757
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: way it breaks down. The thunder the last team in group.

758
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: See Steve to say you're paying attention all this. You

759
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: got this at the top of the hour. Anyway, the

760
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: six group winners plus the two wildcard teams will advance

761
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: to the knockout stage.

762
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: The knockout stage will be held in Vegas, VJ.

763
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: Go ahead and tell me how you hate this in

764
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: season tournament and you think it's stupid at Cardian whack. Yeah,

765
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: I'm with you missing I'm with you, Steve when you

766
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: missed the stager like this is a v shake up

767
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: the head.

768
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: No, exactly, this is stupid. This is stupid.

769
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 4: No, I don't like it, you know what I'm saying.

770
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 4: I don't like how you led into that too. Man

771
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 4: like me not liking it is a problem.

772
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: No, I knew that you were I knew where you

773
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: were going. I knew you didn't I knew you weren't

774
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: gonna like it. Well why would like? Who does like this?

775
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 2: Are you seriously? End season tournament? But I'll tell you

776
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: I won't bang on it. I'll look at a positive side.

777
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the NBA is doing. The NBA

778
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: c is college football and the NBA SS NFL football,

779
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: And I don't care what they've tried to do over

780
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: the last let's say decade. They in the NFL in

781
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: college football. You all will agree they're walking away from

782
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: the NBA.

783
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 4: It's getting broader and broader as far as popularity, product

784
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 4: on the product, on the television, the players, the stars

785
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: like it's getting It's the gaps getting bigger and bigger away.

786
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 4: That's why they think they have to make a move

787
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 4: like this, because if you think your product is fine,

788
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 4: you don't do anything like this.

789
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: That's why they do the playing tournament.

790
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 4: Now, That's exactly why they do the playing because they're

791
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 4: trying to draw people back to the league, back to

792
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: the game. That's when they start making changes like this.

793
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: We just saw it with baseball with the rule changes

794
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 4: that you talked about for three weeks straight that you loved. Right,

795
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 4: They are trying to bring people back to the game.

796
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 4: So I get why they're doing it. This is just stupid,

797
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 4: and it isn't it what It's in December like okay,

798
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 4: and then you have the All Star break.

799
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: So this whole thing is just them trying the all

800
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: start breaks out till February. I get it, That's what

801
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's until February.

802
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: I know that.

803
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 4: But now you have these two in season things that

804
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: are gonna happen in the league. They're trying to draw

805
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 4: eyes and get people back to the league. I checked

806
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 4: the ratings this morning and just wanted to look twenty eighteen,

807
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 4: nineteen twenty up until now.

808
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: It's just it's falling every year.

809
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 4: People are really walking away from Man, I don't need

810
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: to watch the regular season. I'll wait till April and May.

811
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: I don't have to watch. They're trying to bring eyes

812
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 4: back to the regular season, and being that it's going

813
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 4: to be actually before Christmas Day, they're trying to bring

814
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 4: eyes back to the game before you can get the

815
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 4: Christmas Day because the Christmas Day rating numbers have fallen

816
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 4: over the last four or five years. So I get

817
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: what they're doing, man, So I'm not even gonna bang

818
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 4: on it. Am I fan of it?

819
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: Nope? I think it's silly, think it's stupid, but I

820
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: get while they're doing it. So if it's stupid, then

821
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: why are they doing it? I don't like.

822
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: If it's stupid, than why they're a better idea to

823
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: get better eyes? Because I love it.

824
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 4: Well, okay, okay, I'll give you one thing that we

825
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 4: already talked about an agree on you how you get

826
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 4: better eyes on it? Make guys play, get rid of

827
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: load management, like punished teams for purpose load management.

828
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: So that's what they did in the new CBA. Yeah,

829
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: oh yeah, well that's coming.

830
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: That's it's not that's what they did in the well, no,

831
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: it is, it is now, it's in the CBA's right.

832
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: What it's going in fact with the other day, like

833
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: two days ago, three days ago, something like that.

834
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: As soon as the new CBAS goes those them's the laws. Okay,

835
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: so but it's sixty five games right now. If you

836
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: don't qualify, you don't qualify. Sorry, do not pass, go,

837
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: do not collecting it out. But it hurt the game

838
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: over the last four or five years though.

839
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: That's the thing.

840
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: This is something they're trying to get it straight now

841
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 4: and they're adding this to it the whole until hopefully.

842
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 4: But this has been in the works. This isn't nothing

843
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 4: they came up with. This is something they've been talking

844
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 4: about in the front offices for a few years now.

845
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 4: This is nothing they thought about two three months ago.

846
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, we're gonna do this. No, they've been

847
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 4: throwing this around behind closed doors, just like the playing

848
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 4: turn trust me, they've been talking about three or four

849
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 4: years before they actually brought it to the public and

850
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 4: say hey, look what we're like thinking about doing. Then

851
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 4: the next year is hey, we're gonna put this up

852
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 4: for vote. Then it's like, oh, here we go, it

853
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 4: starts next year. That's how these things go in the

854
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 4: pro League. I just I still think it's stupid, just

855
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: from a fans standpoint of Okay, first of all, it's

856
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 4: confusing as hell.

857
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: It's a round what is it? Round robin? It's not

858
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: that confusing, Okay, well to me, it is just it's

859
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: just like, you know, that's the way it'll be.

860
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: You know they have group I'll let you break it down,

861
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: then go ahead. They'll have group play, right, the same

862
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: as you watch.

863
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Oh so like soccer. Yeah, I'm about to say, you

864
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: can't tell me you.

865
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: Watch soccer's gonna be round softball and all these other

866
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 2: players you don't understand group play.

867
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: I do understand. I thought it was gonna I thought

868
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: it was gonna be.

869
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 4: Round robin type AAU style tournament thing is what I'm

870
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 4: used to when they do when UH leagues sometimes make

871
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: these crazy turna I thought it's gonna be a round rid.

872
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: It's just it'sard. It's just it's a shame.

873
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: As most of these tournaments you have four games in

874
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 2: group play right there, all have two games on the home,

875
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: two games at home, two games on the road, and

876
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: they will play out over the first six weeks of

877
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: this and that will be determined in your group play, right.

878
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: So if so, the way it.

879
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: Is lining up, let's say the the Nuggets and I'm

880
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: sorry the Clippers. Let me get this right, the Warriors

881
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: and the Kings are in the same group. So as

882
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: I understand it right now, let's say the Warriors and

883
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: the Kings open Night one against each other. That game

884
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: would count for group play for the tournament in December.

885
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: Then if the Warriors play let's say the Knicks night two,

886
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: and then for some reason we're to play the Kings

887
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: again in night three, then night three would also count

888
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: for group play.

889
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: So they think like those games are the ones that count.

890
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: After that, they'll have the seedings and the teams that

891
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: went Look, I'm sorry, did I?

892
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: Did I? Do you want me to go slower because

893
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: you're shaking it.

894
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like you understand group today, man, trying

895
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 4: to play nice today. Man, it's like the third shot,

896
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 4: the third dig man trying to play nice today. No

897
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: shucking my head at it, because it's still just it's

898
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 4: silly to me, man. It's just even you happen to

899
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 4: sit here and try to even explain it. Play the

900
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 4: eighty two damn games, and let's go back to the.

901
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 2: Playoffs, and now some teams will have eighty three, like

902
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: it just the winner of this, the winner will have

903
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: eighty three. No, but now the way they're doing the

904
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: schedule is every team is just going to have eighty two,

905
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: I mean eighty games in the schedules, and then well

906
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: and then two will be added to everybody else after

907
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: they determine who's going to win or who's going to

908
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: be the team that's playing December seventh and December ninth

909
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: in Vegas.

910
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: Like, look how they even presented it to us.

911
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 4: This is a show like they have an actual NBA

912
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 4: tournament revealing Now we got Trey Young on stage, Like

913
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: they're bringing current players poor in sweatsuits and shorts and sneakers.

914
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: I mean they're they're trying.

915
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: I get it. I get what they're doing. I just

916
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: got man.

917
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: This is winners of this get five hundred thousand dollars.

918
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: That's all that every player on the winning team. I

919
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: think that's pretty incentivizing anything.

920
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't. It's just a weird to me.

921
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: It's a weird angle to be like this is gonna suck,

922
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: Like when it's something that they're actively trying to improve

923
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: the sport.

924
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: No one is watching basketball.

925
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say no one, but like as you said,

926
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: the numbers, no one's paying attention to it in December,

927
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: especially December seventh and December ninth.

928
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: Now people will.

929
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: But coming up next we'll talk about why that's the

930
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: NFL they taken over Christmas Day and VJ has some

931
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: predictions coming up next.

932
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:12,600
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933
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,640
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934
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935
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936
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,040
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937
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,040
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938
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939
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,279
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941
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: dot com. It's the way tire buying should be, VJ.

942
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: We gotta be left in what seventy some days away

943
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 2: from NFL start. Yeah, less than three weeks from trash,

944
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: less than three weeks from training camps. That's one of

945
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: my things I really appreciate on social media. It's like

946
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: when we're seventy eight days away, and everybody's to name

947
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: their favorite seventy eight and it's like if you had

948
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: a great left tackle, there you go, there you go.

949
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: That's about That's about everything, and everybody defensive linemen.

950
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: That's about it when it comes to that.

951
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: But as the NFL season quickly approaches, I said, VJ,

952
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 2: you know what you should do. Let's play, mister klail,

953
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: pull out the pull out the crystal ball. Called me

954
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: now for every thought or eating, VJ.

955
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: What you got, my guy?

956
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: In terms of your early NFL predictions, I like three

957
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: teams to surprise us. There's always these teams that we

958
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: don't talk about and we think are gonna be either

959
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: average or bad, and we just don't pay him attention.

960
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: But I think this year that flips around. I think

961
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: some other teams that made the playoffs last year don't

962
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. The Chargers of one team I look

963
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: at it. I don't love as much as everybody else does.

964
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: They have all the names on the paper, they have

965
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: all the they have the pretty parly white teeth, shiny,

966
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: good looking quarterback that you can market do all those

967
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: things with.

968
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: They don't run the ball very well, and they actually

969
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: let Austin Eckler go test free agency and nobody signed him.

970
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 4: Nobody wanted them, and there's a reason for that. I

971
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 4: don't know what the reason it is, but they obviously

972
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 4: other teams know the reason of I think the Chargers

973
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 4: are a team I think it takes a step back

974
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 4: and doesn't make the playoffs this year. Three teams I

975
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 4: like to surprise US Falcons, Saints, and the Commanders, and

976
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 4: all for different reasons. I know you're a big Saints fan,

977
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 4: you're not big on Carr.

978
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: I am.

979
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 4: They still have Jamis wood Winston there also as a

980
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: backup if they need them. But I just kind of

981
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 4: like how this team's put together and they actually fought

982
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 4: and almost won a division along with the Falcons.

983
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: The Falcons with Ritter, they know he's the quarterback.

984
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 4: Bijon mc collins was a great pick up, and they

985
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 4: have Pits and Drake, and I think once you get

986
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: these rookies a second year in the same system with

987
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: their talent around them, I think these are two teams

988
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 4: that I really like that finish just below five hundred

989
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 4: and almost won the division, got to the playoffs two

990
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 4: or three more wins this year. They're eleven win football

991
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 4: teams that will gets you to the playoffs. But my

992
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 4: team I'm really really got my eyes on are the

993
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 4: Washington Commanders because of Sam how This was a guy

994
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: going into a year in Carolina. He couldn't even come out.

995
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: He was a highs and front runner. People predicted him

996
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: to be the number one overall pick. I never thought

997
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 4: he could beat a number one overall pick. I thought

998
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: he'd be a higher pick that he was. But I

999
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 4: think that they've settled on him as the quarterback there.

1000
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 4: They have offensive weapons all day long. The enemies in

1001
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 4: there now calling the offense. Gibson, Dodson, McClaren, Robinson Junior,

1002
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 4: the guy that the young kid that got shot being

1003
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 4: carjack in DC came back and played last year and

1004
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 4: ran well for them. Samuel and then the tight end

1005
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: Logan Thomas, former quarterback from Virginia Tech. I love that kid, big, strong, fast,

1006
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 4: great hands, doesn't get a lot of talk as far

1007
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 4: as you know, versatile tight ends, and I just like

1008
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 4: what they have it. Ron Rivera's always gonna have that

1009
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 4: defense ready. They were number three in the league last year.

1010
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: The offense number twenty. The offense takes six moves up

1011
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: and becomes the number fourteen ranked offense in the league.

1012
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: I really do have.

1013
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 4: My eyes man on a team like Washington to make

1014
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 4: some noise. I don't think that they win the division,

1015
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 4: but I think that they they pull on Philly's cape

1016
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 4: a little bit and then Philly kind of pulls away

1017
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 4: later in the year to win the division. So those

1018
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 4: are some of the things along with Detroit Lions. I

1019
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 4: know there's you and Chris Big with the Lions, I

1020
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 4: still think that's Minnesota's division. I think they'll be better,

1021
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 4: but I just can't give them the division yet. And

1022
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 4: their favorite in Vegas to win it. And then lastly

1023
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 4: de Watson Cleveland, everything that's happened, they come back, weapons galore,

1024
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 4: great defense number one in my opinion, one of the

1025
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 4: best pass rushers, and Miles Garrett on the end, great

1026
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 4: offensive line.

1027
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus has a ranked number three. They can't

1028
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: run the football.

1029
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: Hey, let's see.

1030
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: Let's see what they do with a whole offseason. And

1031
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 4: so those are some of the things that I looked

1032
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 4: at early this year so far.

1033
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: Well, my first thing is, you know, I'm here every Friday,

1034
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: I mean every Saturday when we cross in between Steve

1035
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: Hartman and Bucky Brooks say, you singing the praises of

1036
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: one Bryce Young, How did the Saints and the Falcons

1037
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: both have great years if Bryce Young doesn't.

1038
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 4: No, No, I think Bryce youngle Stick can have a

1039
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 4: great year. But I just still think that might be

1040
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 4: a seven win team, which will be which you would

1041
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 4: probably be okay for coming from a rookie quarterback. He's

1042
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 4: still gonna take his bumps and bruises. I'm not saying

1043
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 4: Bryce Young's walking into the NFL and it's gonna blow

1044
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 4: everybody away.

1045
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: What I'm telling people was is that he's he is

1046
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: a ten to.

1047
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 4: Twelve years started NFL quarterback, a franchise type guy, and

1048
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 4: a franchise type kid. They're gonna have to continue to

1049
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 4: put pieces around him and build for him to be

1050
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 4: successful there.

1051
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: But I think these other teams have veteran quarterbacks. Uh.

1052
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: I think these teams can be better.

1053
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 4: They're better suited to, you know, make a longer push

1054
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 4: through the season and make it to.

1055
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: The players I like.

1056
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: I like Carolina with maybe about seven, eight, maybe eight wins.

1057
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: I like, and I'll keep it there.

1058
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 4: But I think the Falcons or the Saints in that

1059
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 4: division can win ten or eleven games.

1060
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: Oh no, I know you don't.

1061
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: That's fine, But there's no way anyone just winning games.

1062
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: Like I said, that's almost the statistical impossibility.

1063
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 4: I like the weapons, I like the offense, and I

1064
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: like Derek Carr. And I think Derek Carr is gonna

1065
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 4: come into this year with a major chip on his

1066
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 4: shoulder about the way the Raiders, about what the Raiders

1067
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: did are the way the Raiders. He had a great

1068
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 4: year last year. Guys, what are you'all talking about? He

1069
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: had a great year last year. Renfro went down with

1070
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 4: an injury. Walla went down with an injury. Like, go ahead, Chris, No,

1071
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: I just I'm doing the napkin math here. You are

1072
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 4: giving to NFC South team's double digit wins. I don't

1073
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: know when the last time we had that in that division.

1074
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: That's cool.

1075
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm giving them both. I think either

1076
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 4: one of these teams can win ten or eleven games, absolutely,

1077
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 4: And of course it'll be a wash because they'll beat

1078
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 4: each other and there's other things. But I'm just giving

1079
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 4: you two teams in that division that I'm looking at. Hey,

1080
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 4: this guy's sitting right here to the next to the right,

1081
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: And he told me the Falcons are gonna win that

1082
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 4: division last year.

1083
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: So he he.

1084
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 4: Believed in him and felt them a little bit last

1085
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: year with a rookie quarterback that was coming in for

1086
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 4: Hurt Marriotta.

1087
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: And let's remember, had PJ.

1088
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: Walker not had the Da Hail Mary from fifty yards

1089
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: out and then Tom Brady have one of the most

1090
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: historic NBA, NFL comebacks in the history of the game

1091
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: ninety seconds, two touchdowns, Falcons would have won that, they

1092
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: would have won the South. All right, So then if

1093
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: and winning whoever, you know, all that doesn't matter. But

1094
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: you know, I like the Falcons again to win the

1095
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: South here.

1096
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 4: Okay, so then you actually like that one, then that

1097
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: I have there as far as the South, the Falcons,

1098
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 4: the winnings, he just.

1099
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: Got the Saints tied up in there. I don't know

1100
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: what you got. I don't know what. Don't you have

1101
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: personal issues with the same.

1102
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 4: Don't just look at the rot like for like, look,

1103
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 4: there were seven okay, let me where were the wreck

1104
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: of last year at eight nine?

1105
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: Right? Where the a nin last year? Seven? Eight nine? Yes?

1106
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: All right?

1107
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 4: So eight nine last year? You mean to tell me

1108
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 4: they can't scratch out two wins. Things can't go You

1109
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 4: just gave a scenario of if if, this and that.

1110
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: So Panthers just got better, Atlanta Falcons just got better.

1111
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: You know, think the.

1112
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: Buccaneers stink, but they stunk last year. The only thing

1113
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 2: that had they had that was really going for was

1114
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: Tom Brady and his ability to move the balls on

1115
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 2: the field in that two minute period, that was about it.

1116
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: I mean, what's for the Saints. I think they're under seven.

1117
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: I'm taking the unders half of their half of their

1118
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: I mean they got thirty five percent of the salad cap.

1119
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: Is just on.

1120
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 2: Other teams are not playing like it's just they're not sustainable.

1121
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: And then they had the.

1122
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: Opportunity there were multiple quarterbacks available this offseason. You could

1123
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: have went and got a former league MVP Janie Works,

1124
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: could have got a former two time.

1125
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: League MVP, and you got there Ak Carr. So there

1126
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: you go.

1127
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 4: Remember these two names for the Saints this year, Miller,

1128
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 4: the rookie running back from TCU and Jamal Williams, a

1129
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 4: guy that you both both loved. Seventeen touchdowns last year

1130
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 4: over a thousand yards for the Detroit Lions. They with

1131
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: Kamara and we don't know what's gonna happen with his

1132
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 4: court case, But you have three pieces there.

1133
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: I think it'll be fine too.

1134
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 4: I said that last year with Michael Thomas is healthy,

1135
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 4: Chris o'lave is a beast at the receiver position. There

1136
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 4: are weapons here in office to score points, ladies and gentlemen,

1137
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 4: There really are. Now can they put it all together?

1138
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 4: We'll see what I'm saying, you know, early July and

1139
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 4: looking at them, say hey, I like the pieces they

1140
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 4: got here. I like what they have on paper. The

1141
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,479
Speaker 4: division is open, right, The division's open. Anything can happen.

1142
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 7: Man.

1143
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 4: I like those two teams in that division, that's all.

1144
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 4: And I'm really high on the Commanders. I think Commanders

1145
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 4: are ten ten can be a ten win team this year,

1146
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 4: the Washington Commanders.

1147
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 7: I think you're stepping into a bit of a trap

1148
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 7: with the Vikings, like they lost a lot of their

1149
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 7: defense this offseason. I know that everyone loves Jefferson, but like,

1150
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 7: besides him, there's not much else to that team.

1151
00:48:58,920 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: Now.

1152
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 7: I'm not even just talking about Alvin Cook, especially on

1153
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 7: the defense. Like we all just kind of shrugged and

1154
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 7: assumed they could get by with the poor defense they

1155
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 7: had last year. They just made it worse. They just

1156
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 7: made it a lot worse.

1157
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 4: The only reason why I'm just not all sold in.

1158
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 4: And I've stated this about other teams, for even my Dolphins.

1159
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 4: The night we did the show where the Dolphins were

1160
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 4: playing up at Buffalo and I picked Buffalo, Martin.

1161
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: Looks at me, go, how could you go and get

1162
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: your team?

1163
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 4: Because I've never seen the Dolphins go in and win

1164
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 4: up there when it's less than thirty two degrees. So

1165
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 4: until I see them do it, And that's how I

1166
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 4: feel about the Lions. I think they have a good

1167
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 4: football team, but until I see them win the division.

1168
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: We used to see this with the Cardinals.

1169
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 4: Remember the Cardinals were that hot team for like four

1170
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 4: or five straight years and they just couldn't put it

1171
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 4: together with and Kwam Bolden and even with Larry Fitzgoe.

1172
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 4: They had weapons, and they couldn't seem to put it together.

1173
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 4: I just kind of feel that way with the Lions.

1174
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 4: I know they're the darlings of that division of the

1175
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 4: Darlands in the NFL, but just to say, oh, yeah,

1176
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 4: they're gonna win the NFC North this year, I'm like, ah,

1177
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 4: I still think it's Minnesota's I still think it's Minnesota's division.

1178
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: Until I see it.

1179
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: That well, you know, at this point on the NFC

1180
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: North bit, don't really care to go into it too much.

1181
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 1: But I kind of like the Packers on Jordan Love.

1182
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: I'll see it. I still look good.

1183
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: Actually, I gotta I gotta look at it further and

1184
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: suss it out and watch some of the preseason and

1185
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But if Jordan Love is capable, like

1186
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: if he's if he's okay, that's still a good football team.

1187
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: Football team.

1188
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1189
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 2: Uh, the Commanders, though, I don't see it. I like

1190
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: Sam Howe, sure, and I think that a lot of

1191
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: people he got jokes when Cam Newton came over with

1192
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: his list of quarterbacks that he would back up, and

1193
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: Sam Howell was on the list. But I do like Sam.

1194
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 2: I think he was a good player of North Carolina.

1195
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: Probably if he could have came out a year earlier,

1196
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 2: people will look at him a little differently. But with

1197
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: that being said, for the Panther, I mean for the

1198
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: Carolina Commanders. The Commanders to win ten games, that would

1199
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 2: be the third time in Ron Rivera's history from Carolina

1200
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: and Washington that he's ever won double digit games. He's

1201
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,479
Speaker 2: coached I believe over one hundred and eighty.

1202
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,959
Speaker 1: So it's RIVERI your is Riveria was distance against my

1203
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: pick on this.

1204
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how good of a coach he is.

1205
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: I know that he has I know that he's a

1206
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: good leader and the team. I know that he's the

1207
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: good you know. I know he's a good leader.

1208
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: I know.

1209
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: But in terms of the day and day our preparation,

1210
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: in terms some of that, you know, you continually are

1211
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 2: seven and nine.

1212
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: Guy.

1213
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 7: Do you think people in the media just really like Rivera?

1214
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 7: Do you think that's part of a good No's yes,

1215
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 7: and not only that he's like he survived cancer. Like

1216
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 7: there's a lot of a lot of sentimental there's a

1217
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 7: lot of reasons.

1218
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of different things behind why you

1219
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't necessarily want to fire Romavera. And I'm not calling

1220
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 2: for his job or anything of that nature, but I

1221
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: just wonder when you're looking at it. And now you

1222
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: had the Eagles who had a little bit of coordinator

1223
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: brain drain with Stike and leaving and and then Gannon Leavin,

1224
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: the offensive and defensive coordinators respectively, are now coaches in

1225
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: the NFL as well head coaches. So there's something there,

1226
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: and then you got Kellen Moore leaving in Dallas. So

1227
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 2: now you Mike McCarthy call him more to plays. Oh,

1228
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: I can't really think of it time off the top

1229
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: of my head, that the head coach kind of take

1230
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: more control.

1231
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 7: Do the Giants even build on their success from last year?

1232
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: Now? Is it a bit of a fluke?

1233
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 6: No?

1234
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: I think that's that's to be something that you got

1235
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: to look out for, especially with Brian Daboll and his

1236
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: track record right that he had in Buffalo.

1237
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: Offensively, still don't really have a quarterback there either.

1238
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 4: Not only that they're paying their quarterback forty million, but

1239
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 4: they're screwing up this Saint kWh Barkley thing.

1240
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: This is what they're screwing up.

1241
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 4: And this is where they also have to pay for

1242
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 4: failed draft picks. You don't get to just walk past

1243
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 4: that now because as Tony went to the Chiefs and

1244
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 4: did what he did with the Chiefs. But remember he

1245
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 4: was a first round draft pick and then they sound

1246
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 4: Galladay to seventy plus million dollars. Those were two slip

1247
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 4: ups by that front office. You have to replace that

1248
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 4: and you have to correct that. I just don't think

1249
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: that they can to I don't think they can repeat

1250
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 4: what they did last year. Last year might have been

1251
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 4: a little bit of a fluke. Not just this division.

1252
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 4: I grew up in this division, man. I've seen his

1253
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 4: division flip year to year back in Whipprids Virginia. It

1254
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 4: flips year eighty three. It fits year to year. It

1255
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 4: flips year to year. And I've seen teams in this

1256
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 4: division and play hard and then the next year when

1257
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 4: they get some more pieces, they kind of get it together,

1258
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 4: they make a leap.

1259
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: And I like the Commanders. Like I said, number three

1260
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 1: ranked defense.

1261
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 4: If the twentieth ring offense just improves like five or

1262
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,959
Speaker 4: six slots, that's a fourteenth ring offense with a top

1263
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 4: five defense, that's normally a ten win football team.

1264
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: In the NFL. You're going to the playoffs.

1265
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 4: And that's why I like them, and I just love

1266
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 4: the weapons on both sides of the football.

1267
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 1: The only NFC team that I truly feel confident about

1268
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: right here, right now today and that they will be

1269
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: playing in the playoffs, it's the Seattle Seahawks. Oh y'all

1270
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: love what Seattle's done.

1271
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 2: I feel confident the Seattle will qualify for the playoffs.

1272
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: Whether they win the West or its wildcard.

1273
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: Whatever I think when it's all said and done and

1274
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: everybody is invited to the dance, Seattle will get a car.

1275
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 4: San Francis your squad last year, do you think they

1276
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 4: have Do you think they have enough now to challenge,

1277
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 4: to legitimately challenge San Francisco for the NFC.

1278
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: WORL is an entirely different scenario when you get down

1279
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: to your third string quarterback throughout the core of the

1280
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: season because you planned for your second string quarterback to

1281
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: be who it was and your thirstring quarterback to be

1282
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 2: who it was. Right now, it seems to me very

1283
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: much that San Francisco does not have a healthy quarterback

1284
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: on the roster.

1285
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: They went in last year with.

1286
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: Two and a half, right, Jimmy was heard a little bit,

1287
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 2: went in last year with two and a half. Feel

1288
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: better about that. When you have just the mystery airhead

1289
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: as your quarterback, that's that's a big word.

1290
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: That's the word rely, when you kind of don't know

1291
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: your yeah and so like, if you if they had

1292
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: a plan like.

1293
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: Part of the reason why I was in is because

1294
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: this front office, which has done a great job evaluating

1295
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 2: talent so far, spent so much on Trey Lance. So

1296
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: it's like, if they're going to bet on them, then

1297
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: I can you know, I'm not getting on them too.

1298
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: But they didn't do all that for a rock party,

1299
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. They took him in the

1300
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 2: seventh round, and it took me in the seventh round.

1301
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 2: It was available from one round one pick one.

1302
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He was. He was picked

1303
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: four hundred, two hundred and fifty four in the seventh round.

1304
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: I like to Seattle pick.

1305
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: So I wonder about that. The Pan the Panthers, the

1306
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: other the couple, the Cardinals, they're gonna stink.

1307
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 4: And they're gonna get into one draft pick. I think

1308
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 4: that's one of my I think they're they're the worst

1309
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 4: team in the league this year.

1310
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: Cardinals are gonna stink? Is the Rams are gonna stink?

1311
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, is there a team in the

1312
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 7: NFL with more questions than the Rams right now?

1313
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: I got a lot of questions. But the thing is,

1314
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals have more questions. I think I

1315
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: think we.

1316
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 7: Know I think we know who Murray is. I think

1317
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 7: the questions with the Rams, like Stafford just can he

1318
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 7: stay healthy?

1319
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 2: Probably not, No, probably not. Martin VJ is brought to

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1325
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: You know what, I think it's time for this franchise

1326
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 2: to let someone else.

1327
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: Take the wheel. Martin and VJ, Fox Sports Radio.

1328
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: Martin and VJ coming to you a lot from the

1329
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 2: Tireck dot Com studios. VJ, we're looking at uh goodness, gracious,

1330
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:07,959
Speaker 2: your headphones are loud.

1331
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: Fuck, but VJ.

1332
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: We're looking right now at the Angels and the Dodgers.

1333
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: Right now, they're getting ready, they're warming up. Shoe haal

1334
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: Tany will be leading off at and he'll be the

1335
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: starting DH. He's not hit well against the Dodgers so

1336
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: far this year, just one for ten, but he's hit

1337
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: just about well against everybody else and everything else in

1338
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 2: baseball team. He ain't doing well right, so I'm saying,

1339
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: and again, you know, he has another opportunity in a

1340
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: series that starts today, all right, no series that consumes

1341
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: to day. But the trout is out of here. He's

1342
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 2: hurt right now on the injured list. The Los Angeles

1343
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 2: Angels sub five hundred, the Anaheim Angels reality because if

1344
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 2: you know you live anywhere in southern California, you're awhere.

1345
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 2: This team is nowhere near Los Angeles.

1346
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 3: But.

1347
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: They're in LA now, especially right's pressing on a Friday.

1348
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: On a Friday, you better off buying a flight to

1349
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: get down to the Orange County on Friday afternoon. But

1350
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 2: at this point, man, if you're the Angels, this is

1351
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: another I mean, it's not poolholes. I mean, I'm sorry,

1352
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: not pooled, but this is another star player that you've had.

1353
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: When o Tanys contracts about to be up, you've had

1354
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: trout for this whole time to decades, So is it

1355
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: time to move on and try to just get picks

1356
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: and do essentially what we see the Cincinnati Red's doing.

1357
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: Now. They were in the toilet, they were terrible. They

1358
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: and they drafted well.

1359
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: And now you see Hunter Green coming up, Jonathan India

1360
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: coming up, Ellie and Cruz is superhuman, you know, and

1361
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: you draft well and all of a sudden, now you

1362
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: got it's a team that you feel good about because

1363
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: right now what you got in Anaheim, there's two players

1364
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 2: you feel good about and that's about it.

1365
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: Yep.

1366
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 4: Well, Charlet's been there since twenty eleven, so this is

1367
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 4: year twelve for him. I think it's time to blow

1368
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 4: it up. I just do. There's nothing that show. Hey,

1369
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 4: Otani's not coming back. He's not gonna resign there. Okay,

1370
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 4: he said he wants to play for contender, and that's

1371
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 4: all he said. I think he's done a very smart

1372
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 4: job as far as what he said, or what his

1373
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 4: camp is saying or team is saying, or people in

1374
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 4: the know all those little catchphrases and words people like

1375
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 4: the use sources and whatnot. But he's he's he's clearly

1376
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 4: said I want to play for contender. That's not there,

1377
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 4: that's not there, that hasn't been there, and it's not

1378
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 4: gonna be there. So he's gone, So you wanted you

1379
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 4: might as well get something back for him. Now, you're

1380
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 4: either gonna be known as one or two things, as

1381
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 4: the owner the GM and the VP of day to

1382
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 4: day baseball operations, as the guy that let Shoha Tani

1383
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 4: walk for free, or the guy who traded him and

1384
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 4: got a haul back. Which one do you want to

1385
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 4: be known for? Because you're gonna be known for one

1386
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: of those two.

1387
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: That's it.

1388
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 4: That's all you're gonna be known for. When it comes

1389
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 4: to Otani, they traded him, Yeah they traded them.

1390
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: Okay, but we.

1391
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 4: Got those we got those picks, we got those four

1392
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 4: or five farm guys, we got another picture, or we

1393
00:58:58,560 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 4: got a big.

1394
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: Bat in a lot of that was in the trade.

1395
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 4: Or yeah, they gambled, They put a deal on the

1396
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 4: table and they let them walk for nothing.

1397
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: So you're back to just Mike Trout again.

1398
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 4: I think at this point, especially when Mike Trout being

1399
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 4: hurt there, I haven't seen a player this is great

1400
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 4: in my life who looks disinterested when he goes to play.

1401
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 4: Not that he doesn't care about the game, not that

1402
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to talk that way about him, but

1403
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 4: just the fact that he knows where he's at and

1404
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 4: what he's in and this is as good as it's

1405
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 4: gonna This is what it is here in Anaheim. From

1406
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 4: the front office, I have some serious talks about getting

1407
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 4: both these guys move reset because if you lose show

1408
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 4: Hay to nothing, you're stuck with Trout. He's gonna be

1409
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 4: the next one out, and then you're gonna get a

1410
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,439
Speaker 4: bottom of the barrel deal for that, because everybody's gonna

1411
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: know he wants out, and you let show hey walk

1412
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 4: I to go ahead and try to make some deals

1413
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 4: and get him out now and reset it now.

1414
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: Well, the thing about resetting it now is you don't

1415
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: see the same in baseball. You're not necessarily gonna see

1416
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: the same.

1417
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: Return immediately after the trade deadling, right, overwhelming You're gonna

1418
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 2: be trading a guy like you'd hope to get major

1419
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: league players back for a guy at Otani's level, right,

1420
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But generally you're trading these

1421
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: guys for the number one pick two years ago or

1422
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 2: something like that, you know, the guy who's still coming

1423
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: up through the minors. Yeah, that's one thing. As a

1424
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: small market fan from New Orleans, I like small market teams.

1425
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 2: You know, Anaheim essentially is small market in the way

1426
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: that they operate. You know what I'm saying in terms

1427
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: of the.

1428
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: Dodgers here too, So that's that's what makes them small.

1429
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: That's what makes it.

1430
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: You know, the Dodgers are the are the are the

1431
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: big the big men on campus out here. But ye,

1432
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: unless you're about to unless you're willing to make otany

1433
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: you know.

1434
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: An off he can't refuse. You know, you better off

1435
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: just go ahead and get it over with.

1436
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 2: Rip the band aid off, trade them somewhere that's gonna

1437
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: pay him, that's gonna pay him that. And then yeah,

1438
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: and here's the thing, like, especially in baseball, players move

1439
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: like it's not like football, like d season players don't move,

1440
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, not for real impactful

1441
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 2: players like Christian McCaffrey obviously got traded for that was

1442
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: a big move that impacted the postseason. I think, uh,

1443
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: San Francisco doesn't make it to the conference championship if

1444
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: he doesn't play absolutely, oh if he stays in Carolina.

1445
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: But this was something like this, I think, just go

1446
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: and look at the New Orleans Pelicans. Man, they went

1447
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: traded Anthony Davis, missed on the number one overall pick afterwards,

1448
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 2: and still we're able to compete and still able to

1449
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: get up there. It's like you can move on and

1450
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: if you can get the right assets back, you can

1451
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: really change your franchise. And it goes valid way back

1452
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 2: to the Herschel Walker trade. But you know these types

1453
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: of trades, free agency is key, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1454
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 2: and if you can move on from a guy, why

1455
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: you still have that that money on your books and

1456
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: that contract on your books. You can really really impact

1457
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: the future of your franchise and honestly in the future

1458
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: of everybody watches baseball because we'd rather see him on

1459
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 2: a good team.

1460
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm sorry, not sorry.

1461
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 4: Not only that, guys, go to the Angels game. They

1462
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 4: have two of the best players in baseball, right go

1463
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 4: to Angels games. It's still half empty. It's still half

1464
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 4: empty with the both those guys on the roster.

1465
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: So I mean, come though.

1466
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: Next we have Angels fan and MLB content reported the

1467
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: Marj Moores on. But first, let's get Steve the Seger

1468
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: in here go around the horn with some of these

1469
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: baseball scores and everything else.

1470
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 10: And we're gonna start with the star of the Cincinnati Reds.

1471
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 10: Can't stop watching him, Elie Dela Cruz. My goodness, if

1472
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 10: you don't know this guy yet, still Red zinfielder who

1473
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 10: started the season at Triple A batt at about three

1474
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 10: hundred and got the call up, and he hit about

1475
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 10: three hundred in the minors the year before six '

1476
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 10: five two hundred, hitting three hundred in the majors this year,

1477
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 10: very fast. In fact, on the game at Milwaukee today,

1478
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 10: on a fast one, he steals second. On the next pitch,

1479
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 10: goes for third.

1480
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: They didn't even copper third.

1481
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: Dayla Cruise got a massive jump and.

1482
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 6: They're stolen base number three.

1483
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: And now let's see he's coming home. They want the game,

1484
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: Tay touch the playgaess he did.

1485
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 10: In this span of two pitches, he steals second, third

1486
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 10: and home at Milwaukee, My goodness, and the Reds wind

1487
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 10: up winning eight to five, and the Reds are the

1488
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 10: first place team in the EDEL Central, now two games

1489
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 10: ahead of Milwaukee. La de la Cruz of the Reds

1490
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 10: the first player since nineteen sixty nine who, during one

1491
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 10: at bat of a teammate steal second, third and home.

1492
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 10: The Atlanta Braves are winning again. Yes, they have homered

1493
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 10: again for nothing. The Braves lead at Tampa Bay top

1494
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 10: of the fifth. That's the game on Fox TV for

1495
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 10: much of the country elsewhere, top of the fifth.

1496
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 9: That Houston.

1497
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 10: Seattle now tied with the Astros two to two. Late

1498
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 10: games and a half an hour in La, the Dodgers

1499
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 10: hosts the Angels. The Mets, who believe it or not,

1500
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 10: have won six in a row. Are at San Diego

1501
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 10: at ten the Eastern time. Arizona's the first place team

1502
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 10: in the EDL West game over the Dodgers San Francisco

1503
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 10: three and a half back. Arizona won its game today

1504
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 10: in ten innings over slumping Pittsburgh three to two. Giants

1505
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 10: won five to three against Colorado. Miami beat Philadelphia five

1506
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 10: to three. DH Bryce Harper of the Phillies left after

1507
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 10: he was hit by pitch on the elbow. Cleveland defeated

1508
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 10: Kansas City ten to six, while Minnesota lost at home

1509
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 10: six two to Baltimore. That means the Twins falled a

1510
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 10: second place in the AL Central half game back at

1511
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 10: the Cleveland Guardians. The Yankees and Garrett Cole defeated the

1512
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 10: Cubs today six to three, and Detroit pitched a combined

1513
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 10: no hitter, shutting out Toronto two nothing. Detroit scored the

1514
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 10: two runs in the top of the first. Start of

1515
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 10: the game was delayed almost an hour and a half

1516
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 10: by rain, and the San Antonio Spurs announced they'd given

1517
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 10: coach Greg Popovich a new five year contract.

1518
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: Back to you, thanks Steve, and without further ado, let's

1519
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 2: get him in here. We've just been bagging on your team,

1520
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 2: my guy, the Los Angeles Angels, but with Themarj Morris

1521
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 2: MLB broke content.

1522
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: Reporter DeMars, how you doing, my guy? What's going on? Good?

1523
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 3: I'm good? How you doing, brother?

1524
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm doing well.

1525
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 2: The first question I got to ask you, man, I

1526
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: was going to ask you about the Al East and

1527
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: how the Tigers are two and fifteen as before he

1528
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,439
Speaker 2: asked it every before today, I guess the al least

1529
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 2: if they were gonna win the division. But we had

1530
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 2: to combine no hitter. Ain't Detroit, And I want to

1531
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 2: know to Mars, he does that count for you? A

1532
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 2: combine no hitter. We had a perfect game earlier this year,

1533
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: combine no hitter Matt Manning against the win for the Tigers.

1534
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 3: You know, before it really didn't. It didn't impress me.

1535
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 3: It didn't have that same allure as you know, when

1536
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 3: a starting pitcher would would go all the way and

1537
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 3: get it. But now that I think about it more,

1538
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 3: it is kind of impressive because you got to have

1539
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 3: your relieving pictures come in. However many it is that

1540
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 3: that are used to finish the game. They all got

1541
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 3: to be locked in, they all got to be on

1542
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 3: their a game, especially that first one who comes in

1543
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 3: because you do not want to be the picture to

1544
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 3: give up the no hitter after your started just went

1545
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 3: out there and threw a gym. So yeah, I would

1546
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 3: say I would say the combine no hitters impressive for sure.

1547
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: My man de mars En vis verner Husky here the

1548
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: big Vanilla. How you doing, player, I'm good, I'm good.

1549
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: How you doing, I'm doing out standing?

1550
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 6: Man.

1551
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 4: We talked through the week from time to time, especially

1552
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 4: over the last two or three weeks. Man tchat about

1553
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 4: a lot of baseball, Man, and I threw this at

1554
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 4: you the other night. I'm gonna let you just rolling

1555
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 4: it because this is your account, this is your squad.

1556
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 4: You were just there with your with your lovely son, man,

1557
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 4: beautiful pictures and join baseball. But I text you about

1558
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 4: three nights ago and I said, dude, they need to

1559
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 4: reset this.

1560
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: I know there.

1561
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 4: I know I'm gonna get fight back on that, but

1562
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 4: they just do show. Hey, Tany, he's not gonna resign there.

1563
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 4: Trust's been there twelve years. You've done absolutely nothing with him.

1564
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 4: Dig into this man. You know this roster in and out,

1565
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 4: what they probably need to be asking for, what they're missing.

1566
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 4: But if you're the guy calling the shots. Or if

1567
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,919
Speaker 4: they called you today and say, hey, give us your opinion, buddy,

1568
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 4: do we make it, we blow this up, or do

1569
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 4: we try to band aid this thing together.

1570
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: You have to try to band aid it. There's no

1571
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 3: way we can let O'tier. You can lettle Tony walk

1572
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 3: a player of that caliber walk walk away for nothing,

1573
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 3: or I wouldn't even trade him. You got to try

1574
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 3: and give him whatever he wants. To throw the bag

1575
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: at him. If he doesn't take it, okay, at least

1576
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 3: you did you apart and then you can move on,

1577
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 3: get some assets and and and rebuild from there. Trout bro,

1578
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 3: We've had him this whole time and we've sucked, So

1579
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 3: why get rid of him now? We might as well

1580
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 3: just keep him right, might as well just write it

1581
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 3: out the last couple of years of his career. That's

1582
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 3: how I see it. It just it's it's so frustrating

1583
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 3: because you go back to when they won the World

1584
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 3: Series and just how everything just fell apart. They were

1585
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 3: known for having a great both and they were known

1586
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 3: for having a great farm system, and you know what

1587
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to say. I'm gonna say it all started

1588
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 3: to go downhill when Reno changed the name to Los

1589
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 3: Angeles Angeles. Not immediate right away, because we still made

1590
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 3: the playoffs a couple of years, like his first couple

1591
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 3: of years as owner. But then right after that it

1592
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 3: all went downhill. And I get it. I get the name.

1593
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 3: You know, when they played in the Pacific Coast League

1594
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 3: at Washington Park and Brigley Field. Yes, people, there's a

1595
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 3: Rigley Field in la Is mainly for a minor league team,

1596
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 3: excuse me, minor league teams. And then yeah, and you

1597
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 3: have a couple of good seasons. I mean, we make

1598
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 3: it to the ALCS twenty nineteen, lose four to two,

1599
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, best record in baseball, make it to the Aods. Oh,

1600
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 3: it's looking good, best record in baseball. We're about to

1601
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 3: do something. Nope, we get swept three zero, like they've

1602
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 3: been a joke since twenty ten, pretty much. And it's sad.

1603
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: But people.

1604
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 3: Together, I mean, only because Oltani's there, only because if

1605
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 3: we can, if we can somehow convince him to stay. Yes,

1606
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 3: But I do think Ardi Morenos is the root of

1607
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 3: the problem. I do think a seller the team would

1608
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 3: be best. Obviously that's not going to happen. But like Bro,

1609
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 3: you have people talking about how he didn't want to

1610
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 3: invest in the development system, he didn't want to tap

1611
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 3: into the Latin American market. Players, players weren't getting paid bonuses,

1612
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 3: scouts were taking money from players, like all kind of

1613
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 3: mess was going on. And from twenty eleven to twenty

1614
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 3: twenty one, the Angels farm system has ranked twenty ninth

1615
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 3: or thirty it's five times in the last yeah, in

1616
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 3: the last ten years. And then from two thousand and

1617
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 3: thirteen to seventeen they were dead last four out of five.

1618
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 2: So here's the thing, though, you have a terrible farm

1619
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,520
Speaker 2: system like that. I'm not dismissing.

1620
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 3: Anymore, not anymore. It's much improved now.

1621
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: But okay, well let's just say for so long.

1622
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: Well, you know, because the whole point of why you would,

1623
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:20,799
Speaker 2: you know, sentisly try to move on from your stars would.

1624
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: Be essentially to refill that farm system.

1625
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: And I guess I kind of want to move off

1626
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: him and ask you about the Reds because when I

1627
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 2: look at the way that they have called up guys

1628
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,839
Speaker 2: one hundred greens out of in India and Ellie Dala Cruz,

1629
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: who is just probably the second most unsuperhuman the second

1630
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 2: most unhuman player in baseball besides Otani day La Cruise

1631
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 2: today as he steals three bases on two pitches.

1632
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, he stole home plate. You know, like,

1633
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: what are we doing right now?

1634
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 2: It's just like, I mean, he's the most fun to

1635
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 2: me to watch in baseball, and I don't I don't

1636
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: even have a damn.

1637
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: Question because just how awesome is he? That's my question.

1638
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: It's amazing, Yeah, super amazing.

1639
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 3: Fast this first to third time, I think it was

1640
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 3: he got there in like ten seconds something ridiculous, Like, bro,

1641
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 3: well he's doing things we haven't seen. And but like

1642
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 3: you brought up the Reds and I'm sorry to go

1643
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 3: back to the Angel, No, go for it.

1644
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 2: Because I was trying to kind of do the same

1645
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 2: thing because all of those guys, you know what I'm saying,

1646
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 2: came up through go ahead and.

1647
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 3: We're in a position to do that now. Well, we

1648
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 3: got guys like Ben Joyce, Kirn Perris, Sam Bachman. I think, yeah,

1649
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 3: he has. He had a little time up in the

1650
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 3: league this year so far. Logan o'happy who we brought

1651
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 3: him up. He was going to be a big piece

1652
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 3: till he got hurt. So we're in a position to

1653
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 3: call guys up and try to improve the team with

1654
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 3: youth and try to maybe land some other free agents.

1655
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 3: I know we brought Daniel Murphy and some other veterans,

1656
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 3: but maybe try to bring some other guys in and

1657
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 3: inject more of the youth, you know, keep them at

1658
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 3: their at a consistent on a consistent basis. And I

1659
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 3: can't forget Zach Nettle. I mean, we got to study

1660
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 3: in Zack nettl So we got guys. They got guys.

1661
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 3: So you can't let a Tony go man, you can't.

1662
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 4: Let's stick with Dayla Cruz. I think he's a fascinator

1663
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 4: and I think he's a youngster player too. I enjoy

1664
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 4: watching him play. And I told Martin when you playing

1665
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 4: your music, to bring you on. He brought up that

1666
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 4: there's a two game lead over the Brew Crew. Him

1667
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 4: and I got the Red and Brew Crew thing going on.

1668
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 4: I told him, I said, you're not gonna trust me.

1669
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 4: I'm on that division every day, I'm watching them games.

1670
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 4: I'm looking at both those squads every day. But Dela

1671
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 4: Cruz has this bat knob incident the other night that,

1672
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 4: in my opinion, just kind of leaves another black eye

1673
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 4: on umpiring because they didn't know the rule. And you,

1674
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 4: I'm so tired of these pro sport leagues having the

1675
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 4: guys that are calling the games not know the rules.

1676
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: They send them over, they make him take it off.

1677
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 4: He grounds out, pops out, and then launches one four

1678
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 4: fifty seven. I love how he turned and showed the

1679
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 4: knob to them into the batflip. Just talk to me

1680
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 4: about this man, because you and I we talked off

1681
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 4: the record about, you know, umpiring in baseball and how

1682
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 4: it's frustrating to both of us. We saw the whole

1683
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 4: plate thing happen with the Padres and the rangers about

1684
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 4: the catcher blocking the plate, and you know, one one

1685
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 4: on Pire called it one way, another on Part called

1686
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 4: other way. Just talk to me about this with the

1687
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a black guy with not knowing

1688
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 4: the rules and this whole Batknov sensor thing with Dela Cruise.

1689
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 3: It's a minor shiner. I wouldn't say it's a complete

1690
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 3: black guy like I said, Shiner.

1691
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: I love it.

1692
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 3: For the most part, the umpires do a great job

1693
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 3: when making the cause. I know those two home play

1694
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 3: calls were ridiculous, but how do you not have one

1695
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 3: umpire know the rule. You got multiple umpires out there

1696
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 3: now one of them recognizes the rules. So I get

1697
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 3: how that looks, like, come on, you guys, you got

1698
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 3: to be on top of it. But and the league

1699
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 3: approved it, so I'm good with it. But what I'm

1700
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 3: not good with is manager Dave Martinez over there complaining, crying,

1701
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 3: talking about, oh, we don't like de la Cruise's antics.

1702
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 3: We can go, we can be without that, Like, no,

1703
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 3: why not be mad at your picture for giving up

1704
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 3: a four hundred and fifty five foot bomb after you

1705
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 3: try to point out and make it seem like this

1706
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 3: guy was doing something against the rules exactly Matt because

1707
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 3: he showed you up.

1708
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: But I feel like Dave Martinez doesn't like like fun

1709
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: baseball things, like.

1710
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 2: At all guys all the time, the Melo no hitters,

1711
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, helpball guys were perfect games

1712
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 2: and it's just like, oh, you know I had to

1713
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 2: do it, You know I had to do it. But

1714
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 2: you know what, Demarja, we would never pull you from

1715
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 2: a perfect games long, no matter how many pictures you

1716
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: were throwing, as long as you want to stay in there,

1717
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 2: because you know what you got nothing but gas and

1718
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:13,839
Speaker 2: great information.

1719
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming along, my guy. J telling mister Curtis,

1720
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: I said, what up?

1721
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 3: Oh he's listening for So let's tell mister Curtis.

1722
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 2: All right, you can get the Marja on Twitter at

1723
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 2: M A R Z H A Y ninety one. Just

1724
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 2: sound it out, TOMORJ, just sound it out. All right,

1725
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 2: there you go, Thanks for coming on again, my god,

1726
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 2: mister Morris and uh coming up next, So Uncle Vj's corner, VJ.

1727
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:37,759
Speaker 1: What can do people expect?

1728
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 4: And just after the break, no problem man, coming up

1729
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 4: next with Uncle Vj's corner. I'm gonna tell you guys,

1730
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 4: how sometimes believing in the big guy upstairs, as they

1731
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 4: say in black churches all the time, he may not

1732
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 4: come when you want him, but he's just on time,

1733
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 4: especially with three season, being cool, calm and collecting all that.

1734
01:13:55,880 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 4: Coming up with more Vj's corner our spart Fox Sports.

1735
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 2: Radio Martin and VJ comments to your liar from the

1736
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: Tireck dot Com studios, this time for Uncle Vj's corner.

1737
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: All right, everybody gat her around.

1738
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 6: It's that time of the week.

1739
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's that time of the day. I'm telling

1740
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: y'all man.

1741
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 6: Yes, it's time for everyone's favorite uncle.

1742
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: And you add the cherry on the top.

1743
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 6: It's time for Uncle Vjay's Corner.

1744
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, what up?

1745
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 4: Everybody is always gonna welcome to Uncle Bjy's Corner. I

1746
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 4: am your Uncle VJ. Verner Husky, the big vanilla funny

1747
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 4: chilling out here in La Man. Eighty seven degrees. Man,

1748
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 4: we finally hit Los Angeles July summer weather Man, gonna

1749
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 4: be one hundred degrees a couple of days next week

1750
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 4: over here on Vanilla driving Handsome one.

1751
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: Y'all know how I do.

1752
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 4: Come over and have a seat down, man, because I

1753
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 4: got a very very special award this week. Earlier this week,

1754
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 4: it was announced at Tennessee State University shout out to

1755
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 4: my HBC using the building will actually be the first

1756
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:04,799
Speaker 4: HBCU with a hockey program that will start in twenty

1757
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 4: twenty four.

1758
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: Tu ts excuse me. President Glinda Glover was caught on

1759
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: saying we are.

1760
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 4: Continue commitment to provide new opportunities in broaden new interest.

1761
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 4: They have a partnership right now with the Nashville Predators,

1762
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 4: the NHL International Hockey College Incorporated. You're probably asking us, so, well,

1763
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 4: why is this going to be Vanilla Brothers Sister of

1764
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 4: the week. Let me tell you why, because in life

1765
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 4: sometimes to be able to have the three season be

1766
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 4: a cool common collective, you gotta believe in a big

1767
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 4: dude upstairs whatever you want to call them, God, the

1768
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 4: Maker or the Creator, whatever you got named for him.

1769
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 1: Right there. If you want to be ok Olgan, it

1770
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: was the big dude up stairs. Right. So let's go

1771
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: all the way back over one hundred.

1772
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 4: Years to the first all black hockey league that was

1773
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 4: actually started by four pastors.

1774
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: Four Baptist church pastors that were.

1775
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 4: Actually trying to build a congregation by attracting young black

1776
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 4: men to come to the church on Sundays.

1777
01:15:58,479 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: You know how they did it.

1778
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 4: They promised them that if they came to service, that

1779
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 4: they will battle the other churches in a hockey game.

1780
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: This is the Colored Hockey League.

1781
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 4: It started up in Nova Scotia in eighteen ninety five

1782
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 4: where teams across the Canada's Maritime providence I mentioned before.

1783
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 4: It was found by the four leaders, Pastor James Borden

1784
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 4: of Dartmouth Church, James A. R. Kenny, James Robinson Johnston

1785
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 4: who was a lawyer, and Henry Sylvester Williams, who was

1786
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 4: a Pan American organizer. The reason why this is so

1787
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 4: important because when you're cool comic collective in.

1788
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: Life, sometimes you gotta wait your turn and you gotta

1789
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 1: wait for.

1790
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 4: Thieves to come to you, and believe it in the

1791
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 4: big Dudo upstairs will eventually bring you your fruits of

1792
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 4: your labor that you won. This league went on to

1793
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,560
Speaker 4: have twelve different teams over four hundred players, and it

1794
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 4: was the first hockey.

1795
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: League to allow the goalie to leave his feet and

1796
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 1: cover the puck.

1797
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 4: That was in nineteen hundred, one hundred and twenty three

1798
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 4: years ago. Also too, the famous slap shot. There was

1799
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 4: a famous hockey who we call slap shot you know

1800
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 4: who started that general by the day of Eddie Martins

1801
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 4: credit for that Halifax Eureka in nineteen oh six. This

1802
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 4: league was actually celebrated in Canada in January twenty twenty

1803
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 4: when the Canadian Posts actually issued a postioned stamp of

1804
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 4: the nineteen oh six champions, the Halifax Eurekas to commemorate

1805
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 4: history of black hockey players. And now nine point four

1806
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,560
Speaker 4: percent as an NHL are black players. And now the

1807
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 4: first HBCU will have a Hockey pro that's over, Howard

1808
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 4: Spelman Grambling, damn you.

1809
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: Alabama State you camp?

1810
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 4: Did you mentioned that there's no other hockey ice hockey.

1811
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 2: Programs in any of them schools. Tennessee State University the

1812
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 2: first HBCU.

1813
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 1: So this award goes out to just.

1814
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 4: Time cheaping the breed, the three seeds, believing in the

1815
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 4: big dude upstairs. And it also shows me that we

1816
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 4: are still evolving in society. Or people joke around a

1817
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 4: lot and say, well, black people don't play hockey, or

1818
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 4: a I ask somebody, hey, who you got in the

1819
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 4: Stanley Cup.

1820
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm black. I don't watch. I get jokes like that

1821
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: thrown at me all the time. Hahaha, I get it.

1822
01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: It's all good.

1823
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 4: It's tongue and cheap, but it's show that we are

1824
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 4: still evolving as a society. We're still evolving in sports.

1825
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 4: This is beautiful to see. And you guys all know

1826
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 4: as soon as it starts, if they put anything on

1827
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 4: the NNLTV VJ will dv R and watch it. So

1828
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 4: Mss Glinda Glover, the president of Tennessee State, Tennessee State

1829
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 4: University and the first Colored Hockey League of Maritime founded

1830
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 4: in Nova Scotia. Thanks for starting this over one hundred

1831
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 4: years ago and now we are here to where our

1832
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 4: kids at our universities can partake and playing hockey at.

1833
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: The university's Tennessee State University. And Glenda Glover, you are

1834
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: the Vanilla Winners of the week. Hockey was my first sport.

1835
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: You told me. Yeah, you told me. You told me,

1836
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: and that's why you said you win.

1837
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 4: I was trying to get you to come out for

1838
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 4: the softball league and you're like, you don't exactly say

1839
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 4: you do can't swing a bat. I'm like, you say,

1840
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 4: hockey was your thing, so your swing was more that,

1841
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 4: which is, you know, understandable. Most guys that play hockey

1842
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 4: probably don't swing a back gracefully.

1843
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it.

1844
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. If I have a baseball bat

1845
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 2: in my hand and somebody says swing it, I can

1846
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 2: swing it.

1847
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 4: Could you go to the packcages and it hit like

1848
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 4: seventy million hours, right, Like, at least get some contact.

1849
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 2: I think I could be able to put the bat

1850
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 2: on the ball, but get some content, Okay, but yeah,

1851
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: like like I could, I could probably lay down bunts,

1852
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1853
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 1: I'd be real good a lining it up.

1854
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 2: I have good hand eye coordination, you know, but just

1855
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 2: the whole transfer of motion, the hip swing, like all

1856
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 2: of that, it doesn't translate the same way for me.

1857
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 1: I play streaming.

1858
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 4: I can't ice skate, so I never could play ice skates.

1859
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 4: Is very impressive that you can ice skate because I

1860
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 4: can never ice skate. But we did play Wayne's World

1861
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 4: style street hockey in my neighborhood growing up. It'd be

1862
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 4: twelve fifteen of us in the street Man and the

1863
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 4: two nets car. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, But I grew

1864
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 4: up playing again.

1865
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: I love it. When I saw this story, I thought

1866
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 1: it was tremendous. Man, they're gonna start the.

1867
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 4: Club level and then they're gonna eventually their goal is

1868
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 4: to move up to Division one status. But I thought

1869
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 4: this was a beautiful story, and I love to see

1870
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 4: that we're still evolving in sports like this.

1871
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: There you have it, hockey, Yeah, Tennessee State Universe, baby grow.

1872
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 2: How about that Mandavie Louisiana play hockey. Anyway, Speaking of Louisiana,

1873
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: another star did this same thing that Dramian Littland is doing.

1874
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: Like it or not, it seems to be the NBA's business.

1875
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,560
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1876
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,000
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1877
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

1878
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 6: listen live.

1879
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,879
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1880
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1884
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: But I tweeted at the night of the draft, Okay,

1885
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: because at that.

1886
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: Point I was like, all right, in the words of

1887
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 2: Marlow Stanfield, either do it or don't. I got somewhere

1888
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 2: to be Portland trailblazers. Either trade him or don't. I

1889
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 2: got other things to handle. Okay, you know, Census Strider's

1890
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: got eleven strikeouts. It's the middle of July. I'll just

1891
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 2: watch baseball, right, We're gonna wait this thing. A long

1892
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,799
Speaker 2: summer league has happened and bicked there wein Ben Yama

1893
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 2: is out here.

1894
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: I'll worry about that all right.

1895
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 2: Whether or not Damian Lila is a Portland trail Blazer

1896
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 2: today tomorrow, yesterday, starting not to care, right, to make

1897
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 2: it happen.

1898
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: Just make it happen, you know. Whenever it happens, then

1899
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't care, you know. It kind of reminds me

1900
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 1: of the Aaron Rodgers did the jests thing earlier this summer.

1901
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 2: It was going to happen eventually at some point, but

1902
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: until it happened, I didn't need the every minute, every day,

1903
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 2: every day of oh well, you know, Aaron Rodgers said

1904
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: he only used face times in the house, not phone calls.

1905
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 1: That's why they couldn't get with him. Whatever, I don't

1906
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: here we are, so now we are. We are now.

1907
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:47,560
Speaker 2: One of the good Wins is Damian Liller's agent, And

1908
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: of course Lillard does not have a no trade clause,

1909
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 2: but he has what I said in the NBA had

1910
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 2: no trade suggestion right, and that his contract is cumbersome.

1911
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: And his agent is out there saying I ain't for him.

1912
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: If you want.

1913
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 2: To, I dare you if you're not Miami, we not reporting.

1914
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 2: There's something to that effect. Not a direct quote. You

1915
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 2: think that you understand the general point. Damian O Little says,

1916
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 2: if you don't trade me to Miami, might as well

1917
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 2: just leave me here.

1918
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 4: Well, not only that would and another I think what

1919
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 4: it was also to is he said, you're getting a

1920
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 4: disgruntle are an unhappy player. I'm gonna spend something here

1921
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 4: on Dame Lillard that I know I'm gonna get pushed

1922
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 4: back on, which I love and that's why I'm doing it.

1923
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 4: But I also really feel this way, I'm starting to

1924
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 4: think Dame Lillar's been been swindling us for a long time.

1925
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 4: I really do the loyalty thing in the not wanting

1926
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 4: to join the super team. Let's just be real, guys,

1927
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 4: everyone in the studio right now that if you're in

1928
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 4: the NBA and you can join a super team and

1929
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 4: win yourself a couple of championships, get deep runs three

1930
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 4: four years in a row. I honestly believe everybody and

1931
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 4: still get paid, still get paid top dollars, get.

1932
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: Get paid your money.

1933
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 4: I believe everybody in here would take that opportunity to

1934
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 4: go win a championship. Dame Lillard was really the only

1935
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 4: guy kind of left in the league that was like, no, no,

1936
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 4: I don't want to go nowhere.

1937
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: I want to do it here.

1938
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna run from the grind like going to

1939
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 4: a super Team. I don't think that's running from the grind.

1940
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 4: It's still a grind. But I thought that Dame Lillard,

1941
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 4: it looks smart on him, because let's get real, we

1942
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 4: haven't been killing Dame Lillard. We don't say, well, he's

1943
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 4: never won a championship. Dame Little is not that good.

1944
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 4: People were foolishly saying a week and a half ago

1945
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 4: that he was the best player in the Blaze his

1946
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 4: history forgetting about Bill Walton and Clyde Drexler, who went

1947
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 4: the two finals and went the four conference finals. Dame

1948
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 4: Little's been to one conference finals and he got swept

1949
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 4: by the Warriors.

1950
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: He's been to one.

1951
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 4: He's been eliminating in the first round five times. Like

1952
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 4: those things happen. But I just think this loyalty thing

1953
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 4: Dame was kind of using to really kind of keep

1954
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 4: us off his back because no one blames him for

1955
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,600
Speaker 4: No one knocks him for not having a championship.

1956
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: No one knocks him for not winning yet because he

1957
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 1: was so loyal. But you're seeing the loyalty now where

1958
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: he's telling you, no, I just want to go here.

1959
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 1: The deal sucks. I said it was gard. I said

1960
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: it was gonna be garbage. Two weeks ago.

1961
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 4: Now there's reports they don't want Hero, So what else

1962
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 4: is Miami giving him garbage compared to getting Dame Lillard.

1963
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 4: I think now the tables are starting to turn a

1964
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 4: little bit and people starting to go, Okay, Dame, we

1965
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 4: got the loyalty thing, bro, but you just want to

1966
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 4: leave them in shambles. They're they're willing to see you

1967
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 4: to a contender, but you're just narrowing it down. No,

1968
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 4: I only want to go here. And he got an agent,

1969
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 4: like mar said, that comes down and goes, well, if

1970
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 4: you trade for him, Hey Boston, Hey Philly, Hey somebody

1971
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 4: else out there. If you're going to trade for him, oh,

1972
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 4: you're getting an upset guy, all right.

1973
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: I just that's to me.

1974
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 4: An agent wouldn't put that out if there was some

1975
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 4: feeler from his client to put that out. And I

1976
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 4: think this is starting to kind of turn on Dame

1977
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 4: a little bit here.

1978
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I don't I don't know how

1979
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: the loyalty thing.

1980
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying and that he has not

1981
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 2: been banged on, but I don't think he has anything

1982
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 2: to do with the fact that he's been in Portland

1983
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: the entire time. It's more along the lines of the

1984
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 2: teams that's been around him. Like I think if Damian Lillard,

1985
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 2: for example, had had Klay Thompson and Draymond Green on

1986
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 2: his left and right wing in Portland, they would be like,

1987
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 2: why didn't you win?

1988
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 3: More?

1989
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: Right? That wasn't But it wasn't really because he would

1990
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: have won if he had that.

1991
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: But that's but but you know, but that's the rub,

1992
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 2: Like that's I don't think I think you have there's

1993
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 2: two parallel.

1994
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 1: But I think it's two parallel thoughts.

1995
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 2: It's like, we saw how the roster that he was

1996
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 2: on had shortcomings and he did not then leave that roster.

1997
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 2: But it's not that because he couldn't win with the

1998
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 2: shortcomings roster. It was like, oh, now here's the thing

1999
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: that I think is interesting. If he does move, we're

2000
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 2: taking a guy to your point who has been he

2001
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 2: say eliminated what the first round five times or whatever?

2002
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: You just said.

2003
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm I'm the one, you know, you know, to say

2004
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 2: foolest people. I'm the one who was saying he's one

2005
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 2: of the best.

2006
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 1: I saw that. I want him to sit next to

2007
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: you who said it, And that's fine. I still kind

2008
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: of stand on it.

2009
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,480
Speaker 2: Because you look at the last thirty years, like the relevancy,

2010
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 2: it's really been like you're talking about CJ at all

2011
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 2: star level. CJ has been an all star I believe

2012
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 2: once in his NBA career, Like when you look at

2013
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 2: when you have looked at around what is Damian Lillard

2014
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 2: and then Clyde Drexler or something, that those teams were

2015
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 2: better than what Damien had and he's been there for

2016
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 2: But anyway, it really is a conversation with no point.

2017
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: But the point is here.

2018
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 2: If Damian Lillard moves to Miami, which all the tea

2019
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 2: leaves are saying is such, it's just a matter of

2020
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:21,560
Speaker 2: how much the price is gonna be. It's really a

2021
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 2: The only other analogy I can think that is football.

2022
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: It's when Matthew Stafford left Detroit and became a Los

2023
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 2: Angeles ram. You gotta deliver a championship if you are

2024
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,560
Speaker 2: who we say you've been right when Matt Stafford and

2025
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 2: if people think he never won the Big Game out

2026
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 2: of and I was you know, telling me, you know,

2027
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,560
Speaker 2: he's got the arm talent, he's tough as nails, and

2028
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,959
Speaker 2: but like he got the arm talent, tough as nails.

2029
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 1: But the number one overall pick.

2030
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,600
Speaker 2: He came in there and did not necessarily raise the

2031
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 2: ceiling of the Detroit Lions. They had no more playoff

2032
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 2: or postseason success than they did prior to when he

2033
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 2: got there. But when you put him in the right scenario,

2034
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 2: you put him in the right situation, it all came together. However,

2035
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 2: here's the thing, Well, Matthew Stafford was not, in my opinion,

2036
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 2: even the best player on that team.

2037
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:18,799
Speaker 1: Right. He had to play at a level that matched

2038
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: everybody else Bowl, Right. I don't think it was the

2039
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: best player. I don't think it was the best.

2040
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 2: Quarterback in the NFC that year, right, But he had

2041
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 2: to raise his game in the moments that mattered. Cooper

2042
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 2: Cup was probably the best player on that offense, but

2043
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 2: a lot of the reason why was Matthew Stafford was

2044
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: able to get him the ball.

2045
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: Right.

2046
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard may not be the best I think it'll

2047
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 2: be the best offensive player on Miami if he goes.

2048
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: But you want to talk about best player, I'm not.

2049
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 2: It's it's whatever it plays like in Miami especially. I

2050
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 2: don't think it matters as much, right, But it's gonna

2051
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: be the moment you are not getting any grace period.

2052
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 2: You are not getting any moment of hey, you know

2053
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 2: it's okay, it's just as early on. No, we'll get

2054
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 2: him next year. You don't get that anymore once you

2055
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 2: get traded to this scenario. I don't have an issue

2056
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 2: with the Blazers, I mean with Damien Lew's agent coming

2057
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 2: out here and saying all of this, because this is

2058
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 2: the thing. NBA teams have their own agent c in this,

2059
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 2: and that their own ability to make decisions. They could

2060
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 2: have traded Damian Lillard at any point in time prior

2061
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 2: to this. They could have not signed him to the

2062
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 2: massive contract extension that they did sign him to. And

2063
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 2: that is why you are in the scenario that you're

2064
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 2: in right now, is because you offered them that contract.

2065
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: Damien's got a great agent.

2066
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 2: Challenge you to tell me another player who's had less

2067
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 2: conference finals appearances and more commercials.

2068
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: He's all over the place. And I don't say that

2069
01:28:58,400 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 1: as a knock you know what I say. Somebody will

2070
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 1: say that the knockout he's all over the He's all

2071
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 1: over the place, and I'm not. I'm not trying to

2072
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: say he's distracted and that's why he's not winning.

2073
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 2: But generally it comes with a little bit of playoff

2074
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 2: successful you have your name out there like that in

2075
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 2: the same way.

2076
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: That's my point in that matter.

2077
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 2: But the thing is here, Portland could have you could

2078
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 2: have traded him at any point in time. There was

2079
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 2: no no trade clause. There wasn't one. Washington had one.

2080
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 2: They were in a tough spot in the league. But

2081
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,759
Speaker 2: like I tweeted O Draft night, it seems that Bradley

2082
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 2: Bill's no trade clause is stronger than Damian Lillard's no

2083
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 2: trade I mean, Damian Lillard's no trade ask was stronger

2084
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 2: than Bradley Bill's no trade clause, which is backwards to

2085
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 2: say the least. So if the Portland trail Blazers don't

2086
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 2: like where they currently sit and don't like the options,

2087
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 2: I tell you you only have you to blame because

2088
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 2: had you had you done CJ and Dame in the

2089
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 2: same summer, Yeah, all right, right now being a much

2090
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 2: different one, A's for sure, you being a much different one.

2091
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 2: Maybe you got Zion on your team and he didn't.

2092
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe in Portland he loses some weight. Maybe you've

2093
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 2: got a Lamello ball, maybe you've got Anthony Edwards. Because

2094
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 2: those are the guys who were available after the fact.

2095
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Those were the guys who

2096
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 2: were available.

2097
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: After the fact.

2098
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 2: Now you got Scoot, I guess you hear you were

2099
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 2: there regardless, just came out. Scoot's not gonna play tomorrow

2100
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 2: in the Summer League game.

2101
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 1: Hurt his shoulder. You know, not a big deal. We'll

2102
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: see it. You know, it really matters when the game

2103
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 1: start to count.

2104
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 2: As much fun as it would have been to watch

2105
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 2: Victor and Scoot go back to go ahead the head,

2106
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen in Vegas. But the Blazers only

2107
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 2: have themselves to blame. This relationship advanced on past the

2108
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 2: eleventh hour, on to midnight, on till one o'clock, on

2109
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 2: to the twelve hour, onto the thirteenth hour. You know

2110
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 2: what they said, We're still having fun. I don't want

2111
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,639
Speaker 2: to go home yet. Well, the sun is up, all right,

2112
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 2: the sun is up. Work starts in an hour.

2113
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do a few things with this?

2114
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 4: Also to a Portland's front office, this had it almost

2115
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 4: has kind of a feel good story. That's worthless, right

2116
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 4: because no one wanted to be the bad guy. Portland

2117
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 4: should have traded him said this two weeks ago. You

2118
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 4: should have traded him a year and a half ago,

2119
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 4: probably maybe two years ago, you knew you weren't getting

2120
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 4: the superstar to go along with him. They were able

2121
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 4: to draft CJ, but they haven't landed the superstar free

2122
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:33,799
Speaker 4: agent guy that was gonna come there, and they couldn't

2123
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:35,839
Speaker 4: windle and swindle a deal.

2124
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 1: Insted in forty million dollars a year for Jeremy Grant.

2125
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, my god, please man, former Piston. I already

2126
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 4: know what that's like right there. He just fleeces the

2127
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 4: hell out of them. One sixty Jeremy Gray, A shout

2128
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 4: out to you, brother. You got your bread and it's

2129
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 4: all guaranteed, so I ain't mad at you. But if

2130
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 4: this had a feeling of I don't want to be

2131
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 4: the bad guy, so Dame's gonna say, I'm loyal.

2132
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to do a super team.

2133
01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 4: I don't want to run from the Gray and Portland's like,

2134
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 4: we're committed the day, we're committed the building around Dave.

2135
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 1: But let's be real. Other than the free other than

2136
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 1: the the signing, excuse me, the drafting of CJ.

2137
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 4: McCullough, What real deal did they make what real movement

2138
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 4: they made in the last three to four seasons where

2139
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 4: you said, okay, all right, I see what Portland doing.

2140
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 4: Portland's trying to get something going. They're trying to match

2141
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 4: somebody up there. You haven't seen that.

2142
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 1: So it just felt like both sides weren't trying to

2143
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 1: play the bad guy, and they knew this was coming

2144
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 1: to a head.

2145
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 4: And just like business as usual, guys, we hear these

2146
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 4: teams and these players say a bunch of stuff. But

2147
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 4: when the money on the table, when the dice is

2148
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 4: about to be rolled, and everybody got to push all

2149
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 4: they chips in, everybody's gonna run for cover, duck for cover, cover,

2150
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 4: and and look out for themselves. Ie, Portland should be

2151
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 4: looking for the best deal. They should trade Dame to

2152
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,560
Speaker 4: wherever they want to trade Dame. They don't have to

2153
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 4: trade Dame to Miami because he said that's where he

2154
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 4: wants to go. Because at this point, you don't want

2155
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 4: to be here. It's like a relationship. You don't want

2156
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 4: to be married to me or you don't want to

2157
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 4: date me. All right, peace, no problem. Yeah I heard

2158
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 4: for a minute.

2159
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 1: That's the thing that gets me though.

2160
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 4: But go ahead, and but go ahead and bounce, but

2161
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 4: hold on. I gotta do what's best for me right

2162
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 4: now though, because you've already told me you don't. That's

2163
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 4: like your girlfriend telling you she don't want to be

2164
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 4: with you. But she doesn't want to. She don't want

2165
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 4: you to get the best of your career. She don't

2166
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 4: want you to get another better. Hold on, you don't

2167
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 4: want me, So I gotta do what's best for me

2168
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,560
Speaker 4: right now. I can't do what's best for you.

2169
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 2: But there's the thing, though, here's the thing, and the

2170
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 2: reality of the situation is at this like you're here now,

2171
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 2: if you're Portland, you if you were gonna be cold

2172
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 2: and calculated, the time to do it was well before now.

2173
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 1: Trade in the middle of the nine a year and

2174
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: a half again, speak out in the dark. You know

2175
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You want to? You want to You're

2176
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 1: talking about that, you want to be toxic in the

2177
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: empty the drawers and leave a note so I won't

2178
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: be back. You gotta pay the whole rent, you know

2179
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. To get milk and cigarettes. I'll be

2180
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: back right I'm not coming back. Like that's the way

2181
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 1: to do it now at this point, since you're here, now,

2182
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: be nice.

2183
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 2: You have to make sure that Damian Lillard and I look,

2184
01:33:58,240 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 2: I don't think that he is necessarily somebody have to

2185
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:01,560
Speaker 2: worry about in terms of him in general, but in

2186
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 2: general about NBA players. You do not want it to

2187
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 2: be acrimonious. You don't want it to be something like

2188
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 2: we're talking about earlier with the Angels and Mike Trout. Right,

2189
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 2: you trade Mike Trout. You want him to come back

2190
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,679
Speaker 2: to Anaheim and feel good about it. You want Damian

2191
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 2: Lillard to feel like he can come back to Portland.

2192
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 2: You want him to feel like a Portland Trailblazer legend.

2193
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,600
Speaker 2: And if he I'm telling you, the time to do

2194
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 2: it was before now. It was before now. It was

2195
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 2: after see after you got swept in the conference finals,

2196
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 2: then it was time to be like, Okay, we're not

2197
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 2: gonna get over the hump.

2198
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 1: Time to go. Then that's when you're cold hearted this one.

2199
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 1: You kind of gotta give him what he wants.

2200
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 2: You got to in part because the rest of the

2201
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 2: league and the landscape across the rest of the league

2202
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 2: and be this is just the way that it goes, right,

2203
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 2: It's the way like Anthony Davis wants out. Guess what

2204
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 2: he gets out. He wants to La. He gets to La.

2205
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 2: Don't often could have traded for him. The only time

2206
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 2: we've seen it not really happen in the last fifteen

2207
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 2: or so years was Kawhi Leonard and he.

2208
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:05,640
Speaker 1: Said I do not want to go. I want to

2209
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 1: go to Toronto, and Toronto said I don't care. Yep,

2210
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

2211
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,560
Speaker 2: And what happened besides trades form, But again, even that

2212
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 2: was a funny experience because he had been hurt the

2213
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 2: whole year prior, the goods were slightly damaged. And then

2214
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 2: he comes out and he plays well in that season

2215
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 2: and win a title. So on you know what, first

2216
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 2: trade smoking, he's out the door. So this is the

2217
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 2: way you gotta do it now. So if you were

2218
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 2: gonna be cold hearted, do it like Pop did do it.

2219
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 2: But well before this is ever even play because now

2220
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 2: nobody wants to take this contract because it's astronomical, and

2221
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:39,679
Speaker 2: you got to say, hey, he doesn't even want.

2222
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:41,600
Speaker 4: To be here, and there's another max he's up for

2223
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 4: two coming, so you still gotta pay Dame even more.

2224
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 4: If you're gonna get him now, you're still gonna pay

2225
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 4: him about two fifty two sixty. So Martin Vjay is

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Speaker 4: brought to you by Progressive Assurance. The Blazer sure could

2227
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,320
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2232
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 2: just this little.

2233
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 1: Sleepy, quiet event out.

2234
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 2: There in the sands in the heat. It's heating up

2235
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 2: now though everybody's out there. Martin and VJ. I get

2236
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 2: to that next. Martin and VJ coming to your line

2237
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 2: from the Tirack dot Com Studios.

2238
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 1: VJ. What you call yourself the DVR King? Yes, I am.

2239
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 2: I haven't had cable in six seven years now. No

2240
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 2: longer than that, you'd be twelve years. But no, it's

2241
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 2: that I haven't had it over ten I.

2242
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 1: Haven't had you have DVR K two TV homeboy, all right,

2243
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 1: And that's how long it's been since I dvard anything.

2244
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:48,719
Speaker 2: Just to your point, Uh so, I haven't DVR anything,

2245
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 2: like I said, about ten years.

2246
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 1: But I used to DVR every.

2247
01:36:53,800 --> 01:37:00,600
Speaker 2: Summer League game wow, and watch them Orlando Vegas Acremento

2248
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 2: in part because it wasn't a big baseball guy.

2249
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't all else on.

2250
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 7: You know.

2251
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 2: So at that point, and I'm younger and all I

2252
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 2: watched growing up with sports, That's it. I didn't watch

2253
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 2: like cartoons and other things like. I watched sports and

2254
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 2: the History Channel, BECAU. That's what my dad was watching.

2255
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 2: So I used to was locked in on these Summer

2256
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 2: League games. But and I always had a thing. It

2257
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:25,640
Speaker 2: was like, man, I want to go. I had it

2258
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 2: like I had a vision and I want to go.

2259
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 2: When I moved to California seven years ago, I was like, hell, yeah,

2260
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 2: I'll just pull up.

2261
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 1: Man pulled up the Summer League. Got me a little

2262
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 1: airbnb right next to Thomas and Mack. It was hot

2263
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: as hell, but it was cool. Yeah, it's hot, walk in,

2264
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:42,759
Speaker 1: I could walk in. I was talking to Scout, talking everybody.

2265
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, a year later, Linzo Ball is

2266
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 2: the second overall picking the draft. Then at that point

2267
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 2: I see the change in Summer League. You know what

2268
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 2: the change was VJ. About half the arena was wearing

2269
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 2: Laker jerseys. Probably to that there wasn't even people in

2270
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 2: half the arena. Yeah, exactly, all right, So I think, ah,

2271
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 2: something has changed here. Then I go a year after

2272
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:12,639
Speaker 2: and it's on. We knew it was coming, the big

2273
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 2: fellow Zion. I was like, I gotta go, I gotta

2274
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 2: go get eyes on him. Nineteen, gotta go get eyes

2275
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 2: on I said, I gotta go see him with my

2276
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 2: own tooths, what stood on the floor with my credential

2277
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 2: and looked at him at a three sixty dunk and

2278
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:27,720
Speaker 2: still I still gotta say it to my phone. And

2279
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 2: I thought at the time, Wow, that's a big old

2280
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 2: that's a defensive tackle right there.

2281
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it was, Wow, it's a big that's a

2282
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 1: that's a risk guy.

2283
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:39,839
Speaker 2: But that was the last Summer League sellout before yesterday,

2284
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 2: and yesterday big time sellout. Victor Winben Yamas, Scoot Henderson.

2285
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, VJ. If you're uninitiated and you're not

2286
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 2: aware Summer League, the games kind of start when they starts.

2287
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: It's not like you know the build up there.

2288
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:55,680
Speaker 2: There's a game on the court prior, so they need

2289
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 2: to get ten fifteen minutes of warm up. So once

2290
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,120
Speaker 2: the game, the game before it goes to overt on

2291
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 2: very aau style, you're hanging on for a minute.

2292
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 1: The players are right, they're standing right there, they're waiting

2293
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 1: to come to Summer League. Game goes double overtime.

2294
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 2: Guess what you're waiting, right, So those people that went

2295
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 2: to go see Victor win, But Yama, I don't know.

2296
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 2: It was probably a six o'clock tip off local time.

2297
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 2: They're probably in there conservatively at noon.

2298
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 1: They've been there.

2299
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you gotta be there at eleven o'clock to

2300
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 2: make sure you can get in there and see what

2301
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 2: you're trying to see.

2302
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, I just I get it.

2303
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:34,599
Speaker 4: I get what Summer League is, man, and it's it's

2304
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 4: changed so much, but I don't know if it's changed

2305
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 4: for the better. My opinion on it is the NBA

2306
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 4: needs to scale Summer League down. They dude, they need

2307
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 4: to scale sumer League.

2308
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 3: That.

2309
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 4: I'm with you of watching it back in the day

2310
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 4: when it was in Orlando, when it looked like in

2311
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 4: La Fitness. It looked like they were at the YMCA.

2312
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 4: But and they didn't even really have real uniforms. They

2313
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 4: you play ball in high school, you had a practice jersey, right,

2314
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 4: you had to game jersey. Right, they were playing in

2315
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 4: practice jerseys.

2316
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 1: You go back.

2317
01:39:58,000 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 4: I look back and look at some old Kobe Bryan

2318
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 4: highlights his first summer game, or by the way, he

2319
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:04,799
Speaker 4: had twenty seven points. It was a practice, It practiced

2320
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 4: jersey practice shorts, and the Summer League has kind of

2321
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 4: scraped off a little bit on the shirt, which means

2322
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,760
Speaker 4: somebody wore that last year. They just washed it and

2323
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 4: put it in a box and stuck it in the

2324
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 4: closet an attic somewhere in the arena. And then when

2325
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 4: they come around this year, Yeah, here, Gars, there was

2326
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 4: number thirty two. Yeah, here's your number right here, here's

2327
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 4: your uniform, here's your jersey. So I just think they

2328
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 4: should scale it back nineteen thousand for a game where

2329
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 4: eighty percent of the guys gonna be playing overseas and

2330
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,440
Speaker 4: won't ever see the light of the NBA. The overhypedness

2331
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 4: of it, I think it actually bothers some of the players.

2332
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 4: And I think it bothered Victor when Beyami last night,

2333
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 4: I thought the lights were a little bright.

2334
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 1: He ain't never seen that over in France. He ain't

2335
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 1: saying that yet. He ain't saying nineteen thousand yet.

2336
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 4: Wait till the NBA season starts, Bruh, Where you're getting

2337
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 4: that three four nights a week. It's it's just the

2338
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 4: light that the lights were a little bright for him.

2339
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 4: But I guarantee you he plays better if it's in

2340
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:56,920
Speaker 4: a non fan type atmosphere like he like you said,

2341
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 4: like it used to be, and it's just it's still

2342
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:01,600
Speaker 4: on TV. You can still watch it, but do you

2343
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 4: have to go there?

2344
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:04,640
Speaker 2: Was the idea wasn't to draw like they like the

2345
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 2: idea that, well, we gotta see him in Summer League.

2346
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,680
Speaker 2: It didn't feel the same exact way unless you were

2347
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 2: a real hoop head. I have no issue with Summer

2348
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 2: League being as big as it is now because there's

2349
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 2: the three is the real rupe. By Tuesday, everybody's gone

2350
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 2: and it's the same Summer League it has always been.

2351
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 1: It's all it's all about the first weekend.

2352
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:22,640
Speaker 4: Well, some of the big guys play one game, they're like, like,

2353
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 4: scoots out right, do you think school.

2354
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 1: To play again? I don't. Depends on Saveria was injury.

2355
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 1: If they holding him out tonight, it's so it depends

2356
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 1: on the Saveria Amen.

2357
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 2: Thompson's already ruled out for three to four weeks due

2358
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:36,560
Speaker 2: to his ankle right got hurt playing, So it's like

2359
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 2: if they didn't do that with Scoots, I'm you wait.

2360
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 1: To see what the ankle's different from a shoulder, but

2361
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:42,520
Speaker 1: I feel but this is I gotta.

2362
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 2: Wait and see what you know. We'll see what the

2363
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 2: m alright say. But speaking of the summer League, in

2364
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Mark Padena is out there sweating and uh

2365
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,920
Speaker 2: sweating in the gym, out there watching Victor, Scoot and

2366
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 2: everybody else. Will have him come up after the break,

2367
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 2: but right now, show hell Tony in La Steve what's going.

2368
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 10: On and getting cheers at Dodger Stadium before his first

2369
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 10: at bed but the big cheers Mookie Bets another leadoff homer.

2370
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 10: It's Dodgers one nothing over the Angels. In the top

2371
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 10: of the second. Betts has already set the Dodgers single

2372
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 10: season record for leadoff homers.

2373
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 9: We are in early July.

2374
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 10: This, by the way, the ten leadoff homers this year

2375
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 10: by Betts, most all time in.

2376
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 9: A first half in MLB history.

2377
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 10: On Fox TV, Brave still shutting out the Rays at

2378
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,759
Speaker 10: Tampa for nothing. Bottom of the eighth inning. Starting pitcher

2379
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:36,759
Speaker 10: Spencer Streyder, an All Star who because he's pitching tonight

2380
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 10: will not pitch Tuesday. Strider eleven strikeouts in six and

2381
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 10: a third scoreless sittings. Part of the country is seeing

2382
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 10: Mariners at Houston at game still two to two, top

2383
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 10: of the eighth. I mentioned Dodgers up one nothing early

2384
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 10: the late game. In about a half an hour, we'll

2385
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 10: have the Mets six games in a row. They've won

2386
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 10: playing at San Diego. Well, Arizona's the first place team

2387
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,759
Speaker 10: in the NLS, game over the Dodgers right now. Arizona

2388
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:01,639
Speaker 10: and two and in ings beat Pittsburgh three to two

2389
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 10: thanks to two.

2390
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 9: Runs in the bottom of the ten. Pirates have lost

2391
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 9: four in a row.

2392
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 10: Philly had won four straight, but at Miami the Marlins

2393
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 10: beat him five to three, and pinch hitter Luis Arias

2394
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 10: had an RBI single.

2395
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 9: He's betting three to eighty eight d h. Bryce Harper

2396
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:17,200
Speaker 9: of the Phils left after being hit by pitch on

2397
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:17,719
Speaker 9: the elbow.

2398
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 10: Cincinnati's La Da La Cruz amazing again today, and not

2399
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 10: just because of the two hits the Reds one at

2400
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 10: Milwaukee eight five three straight stolen bases for Day La

2401
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 10: Cruz in the bottom of the seventh. The three steals

2402
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 10: came on two pitches The Reds are first in the

2403
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 10: NL Central, now two games ahead of the Brewers in

2404
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 10: the AL Central. The Twins fall to second place, half

2405
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 10: game back of the Guardians because the Twins lost at

2406
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 10: home six to two to Baltimore, and then Cleveland won

2407
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 10: its home game against Kansas City ten to six.

2408
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 9: Royals have lost six in a row.

2409
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 10: Yankees and Garrett Cole beat the cub six to three,

2410
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 10: and Detroit pitched a combine no hitter in a two

2411
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:55,759
Speaker 10: ninheing victory over Toronto. A reminder, Seattle will be hosting

2412
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 10: the MLB All Star Game Tuesday night on Fox TV.

2413
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 10: Fives were named as replacements by the Way, including Corbyn

2414
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 10: Burns of Milwaukee for Spencer Strider. The Spurs gave coach

2415
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 10: Greg Popovich a new five year contract. The Hawks acquired

2416
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:13,680
Speaker 10: veteran guard Patty Mills. Golden State gave Dario Sarich a

2417
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,760
Speaker 10: one year deal. Philadelphia forward Paul Reid signed a three

2418
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 10: year offer sheet with Utah. Megan Rapino will retire from

2419
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,640
Speaker 10: pro soccer after this year. Of course, Fox will have

2420
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,600
Speaker 10: the Women's World Cup this summer. It starts soon. The

2421
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,799
Speaker 10: US women have a final exhibition in San Jose tomorrow

2422
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 10: against Wales and then they get on the flight down.

2423
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 10: Under Men's soccer has the Gold Cup quarterfinals this weekend

2424
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 10: on FS one. Mexico about to start up in Dallas

2425
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 10: against Costa Rica US Versus Canada tomorrow night on FS one.

2426
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 1: Back to you, thanks Steve Martin and VJA.

2427
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 2: Coming to live from the tire Raq dot Com studios

2428
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 2: and with that, coming to us live from.

2429
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 1: The sands of Las Vegas, Nevada.

2430
01:44:56,640 --> 01:45:01,599
Speaker 2: My man at Fox Sports Radio, NBA insider Mark Medena, Mark,

2431
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 2: he's staying cool out there.

2432
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 1: My friend.

2433
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm staying cool. I've been an NBA Arenas and

2434
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 8: at the convention Center at NBA Con. So so far,

2435
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 8: so good.

2436
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 2: So this is a you know, I want to ask

2437
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 2: you about NBA Con. But do we got to talk

2438
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 2: about the biggest name and the biggest person. Does seem

2439
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 2: to be as out there? Uh pun intended? Vikdre Win

2440
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 2: Binyama makes his Summer League debut yesterday. Mark, What's what's

2441
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 2: your takeaway from from the big fellow?

2442
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 8: Well, there are a lot of takeaways. I mean, I

2443
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 8: think the short term was I was disappointed, I was

2444
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 8: getting ready and I was excited to see like a

2445
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 8: really cool moment of him putting on a performance, and

2446
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 8: so like, I don't think it necessarily beats anything in

2447
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 8: the big picture of this summer league. It was just

2448
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:44,680
Speaker 8: disappointing that it didn't live up to the hype for

2449
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 8: the excitement of that event. But I think the tangible

2450
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 8: takeaway is clearly he's an amazing passer, great defender, but

2451
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 8: he showed a lot of weaknesses his shooting, the turnovers,

2452
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 8: his frustration with the physicality, absorbing the physicality, and and

2453
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 8: some of this stuff can be understandable. He had mentioned

2454
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:10,560
Speaker 8: that he was struggling with his conditioning because he was

2455
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:13,559
Speaker 8: he's just been playing so much basketball in the last year,

2456
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:15,760
Speaker 8: and so I think that he hit a wall. But

2457
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 8: some of it also is a reminder that while he

2458
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:21,600
Speaker 8: is going to be an instant impact player, some of

2459
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 8: his weaknesses physicality and all that that's going to take

2460
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 8: some time. So he's not a franchise savior in the

2461
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 8: first year, but I think eventually he will do.

2462
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 1: Hey, it was going on my man Martin Medina VJ

2463
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:36,759
Speaker 1: Bread a Husky. How you doing, brother, I'm.

2464
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 8: Doing well man so far. Having lost any money, Yeah,

2465
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 8: I don't worry about it.

2466
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:42,840
Speaker 4: I'm seeing some money put down on my Dolphins plus

2467
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 4: three hundred to win the AFCs.

2468
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 1: I would that I would lose some money, right whatever,

2469
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 1: y'all talk to me all football season.

2470
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,479
Speaker 4: Let's jump to School Anderson, man, because there there there

2471
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 4: are certain players I just like to say, there are

2472
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 4: tgn they're ready to go now. And when you watch

2473
01:46:57,439 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 4: him play, as Martin was saying earlier, very comfortable, like

2474
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 4: not shuog not light's not too big. I thought that

2475
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 4: happened to Victor a little bit last night in nineteen thousand,

2476
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 4: sold out, everybody eyes on him. I thought the lights

2477
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 4: were a little big for him. But School just looks like,

2478
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 4: hey man, I'm ready, I'm ready to go. I'm ready

2479
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 4: to play. I know we had the shoulder thing here.

2480
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:15,680
Speaker 4: I'll wait to hear back the results on. I don't

2481
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 4: like shoulder injuries in July because that means they're gonna

2482
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 4: be problems in November, December, and that means they're going

2483
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 4: to be problems in March and April at some point

2484
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 4: also too. They don't heal by themselves. But just talk

2485
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 4: to me about School Henderson and what you saw with

2486
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 4: your own eyes. They're just his explosiveness, his readiness to

2487
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 4: want to compete. Talking try it's like smacking the floor,

2488
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:35,599
Speaker 4: looking at the guard eye to eye coming up the court.

2489
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 8: I like what I saw it to again, Yeah, I

2490
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 8: love his competitiveness and what you said, the ready to

2491
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:44,000
Speaker 8: go kind of player. That's what people with G League

2492
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 8: I expected of them because he's just so quick, so

2493
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 8: athletic and drive to the cupies. He has such a

2494
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 8: great court vision and makes the right play. And while

2495
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 8: there are weaknesses about him with his shooting, his skill

2496
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 8: set everywhere else is just so profound that he can

2497
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:01,760
Speaker 8: still be an effective player. But I think the thing

2498
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,759
Speaker 8: with these summer league games, it's not about the stats.

2499
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 8: It's not about all that because the grand scheme of things.

2500
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:10,720
Speaker 8: They're playing against either young guys or guys that are

2501
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 8: just trying to make G League rosters and training camp rosters.

2502
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 8: But you hit on a really good note about the competitiveness.

2503
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 8: It's all about the intangibles with summer league. What makes

2504
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 8: them tick. How competitor are they, how well do they

2505
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 8: engage with teammate's how much are they actually enjoying basketball

2506
01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 8: as opposed to everything else that Vegas has to offer.

2507
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 8: And I think with Scoot well I'm not gonna, you know,

2508
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 8: make anything significant about the performance. I just love seeing

2509
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 8: all those intangibles and think the most important thing when

2510
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 8: you're looking summer League like, fans just want to enjoy

2511
01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:45,560
Speaker 8: the games and the show. And he certainly put on

2512
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 8: a show.

2513
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what his body. You look like

2514
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,160
Speaker 2: a running back right now he is. I'll tell you

2515
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 2: what he's ready.

2516
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I'm he's ready.

2517
01:48:57,640 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 8: How about these player comps about him, I mean, people

2518
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 8: and j League be Knight say that he has the

2519
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 8: speed of a young Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, they got

2520
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 8: the playmaking of Jason Kiddy, and he has some of

2521
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 8: the strength and explosiveness that a step on marlbur and

2522
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:16,960
Speaker 8: Steve Francis had. I mean, those are those are amazing

2523
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 8: player comp combinations, and I think that he can live

2524
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 8: up to that.

2525
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:22,880
Speaker 4: Another quick one out though, to back to Martin a second.

2526
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 4: John Wall, when I watch him go in the end,

2527
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:27,640
Speaker 4: reminds me a lot of how quick John Wall was.

2528
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 1: You know John Walls having training right now, he's having

2529
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:30,879
Speaker 1: open tryouts.

2530
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:33,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, let's hope they're in the afternoon. No one's showing

2531
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 8: up in the morning in Vegas, that's that's what Doug Golly,

2532
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:36,920
Speaker 8: that's all.

2533
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:41,240
Speaker 1: I heard that too, I heard I heard Colly. Hey

2534
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:41,680
Speaker 1: he got it.

2535
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,240
Speaker 2: You say, John Wall got a better chance people showing up.

2536
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 2: If you put it at nine thirty at night with

2537
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:49,679
Speaker 2: an open bar right at that, it'll be packed.

2538
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 8: It'll be All he needs are tables of five dollars

2539
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 8: buy ins and everyone will show up.

2540
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 1: I know that's right.

2541
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 2: Vegas table limits are insane. That's a conversation for next week.

2542
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 2: But Mark, I gotta ask you.

2543
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:03,679
Speaker 1: I was there at the last.

2544
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 2: Summer League sellout, the Summer League's Iion debut and do

2545
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:10,200
Speaker 2: with an earthquake in the middle of the second quarter,

2546
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 2: and then later that night Paul George and Kawhi Leonard

2547
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 2: both were traded to the Clippers. Big night in the

2548
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:18,759
Speaker 2: NBA at that time. What was the environment like leading

2549
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 2: up to Victor's when Binyama's you know debut. I know,

2550
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 2: we watched that kind of crazy Houston game ending with

2551
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 2: your Mark Smith hitting the three pointer. Everybody was just

2552
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,640
Speaker 2: hoping that didn't go to overtime, right Like, how was

2553
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 2: the environment that day leading up to what was it like?

2554
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:36,840
Speaker 2: And Thomas and mackin in the building because I know

2555
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 2: you've been there for all bunch of games and I'm

2556
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 2: sure it had a different Yeah.

2557
01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 8: Well, look, it wasn't a playoff type atmosphere, but it

2558
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 8: was comparable to an atmosphere of like a Marquee regular

2559
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 8: season game matchup. I mean, it was a sold out crowd,

2560
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 8: a lot of passionate fans. I think a lot of

2561
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 8: people just whine us the Victor, and they had to

2562
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 8: have a lot of security, you know, to quester a

2563
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:01,200
Speaker 8: lot of media folks away that wanted to get a

2564
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 8: glimpse of them, because I just didn't want them to

2565
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 8: become Britney Spears, if.

2566
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

2567
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:11,519
Speaker 8: Right, They had a press conference room for Victor, which

2568
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:15,000
Speaker 8: is the first time in Summer League, Kisser that's ever happened,

2569
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 8: because usually just guys talk in the hallways, et cetera,

2570
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:20,800
Speaker 8: et cetera. But there's just so much media there that

2571
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:25,599
Speaker 8: they wanted obviously, uh, spread everything out. So the buzz

2572
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:28,280
Speaker 8: was there. But I think the disappointing part was basically

2573
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 8: after the first few possessions where you know, Webin Yama's

2574
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:35,600
Speaker 8: missing open dunk and missing some shots, you know, it

2575
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:38,679
Speaker 8: kind of faded back to normal summer League vibes, which

2576
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 8: isn't necessarily a good thing. There's like kind of like

2577
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 8: a casual feel of oh yeah, you can tune in

2578
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 8: every so often, but then there's some mix with bad basketball,

2579
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 8: and that's ultimately what we wound up seeing. And with that,

2580
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 8: I definitely heard some fans grumbling on their way out, man,

2581
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 8: like I paid one hundred for this, so again, it's

2582
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:59,719
Speaker 8: summer league. This isn't get to the finest career, obviously,

2583
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:03,800
Speaker 8: but just given the moment itself, for sure is disappointed.

2584
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:06,679
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you go to Summer League.

2585
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 2: You see and you pay to see Victim Wambam, and

2586
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 2: you see James Book might go one.

2587
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 1: For thirteen from the floor. I feel it. I'm watching

2588
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 1: that game.

2589
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 2: Initially I was like, oh, Charlotte is not going to

2590
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 2: break sixtyn't even game mark. So I know the Lakers

2591
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 2: and the Warriors had the nightcap in Summer League, just

2592
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 2: real quick, I know you're tied into both of those teams.

2593
01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:32,759
Speaker 2: Is there anybody on those rosters that you saw yesterday

2594
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 2: or looking forward to going forward that by two weeks

2595
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 2: from now, when they're crying in the champion and the

2596
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 2: MVP of Summer League. That'll be a name that we remember.

2597
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 8: Oh wow, Summer League championship implications here, I know there

2598
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 8: was such a thing. But yeah, I think Max Christy

2599
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 8: with the Lakers, he's under contract, it's the second year,

2600
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:57,200
Speaker 8: maybe he gets some more time. He's been playing really

2601
01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:00,559
Speaker 8: aggressive and it clearly shows that the up or he's

2602
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,240
Speaker 8: making of having an all round game with being a

2603
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:07,040
Speaker 8: polished playmaker as well as you know, an aggressive scorer,

2604
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 8: has come to fruition. But I think the tough part

2605
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 8: here is when he do see good things in Summer League,

2606
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 8: like all of a sudden, fans are getting excited. But

2607
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 8: then you always had to keep in mind, well, he's

2608
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 8: playing with younger players. He's playing against younger players and

2609
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:26,720
Speaker 8: with Cheelee koche Fulls and training camp hopefuls. But I

2610
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 8: think from you know, those caveats aside, the Lakers were

2611
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 8: encouraged that he has shown growth in his second season.

2612
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 8: And while nothing will be guaranteed because obviously they're they're

2613
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 8: trying to win championships, there could be a comfort level

2614
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:42,560
Speaker 8: where he's you know, he could at least get some

2615
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 8: limited minutes on the floor, and that can always be

2616
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 8: significant because the Lakers, are, you know, trying to preserve

2617
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 8: Lebron and ad as well as they can with the

2618
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:52,960
Speaker 8: rest of the guys so that they're fully rested for

2619
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,320
Speaker 8: a championship run, unlike when they went to the Western

2620
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 8: Conference finals and just clearly was exhausted. So that's who

2621
01:53:59,160 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 8: I would keep my eye on.

2622
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's really what you're kind of hoping

2623
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:04,519
Speaker 2: for out of some of these guys, there's a rotational player.

2624
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:06,719
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you want your stars to be stars,

2625
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:08,920
Speaker 2: but maybe just maybe you can find a guy who

2626
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 2: can get you some buckets in the regular season and

2627
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 2: some of these some of the league runs. But I

2628
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 2: know Mark Madeena is not manling it in. There's no

2629
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 2: there's no just watch as you go with Mark Medina

2630
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 2: right there, because that man. Everything he says full of information.

2631
01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 2: Appreciate you coming on taking a break from Vegas. Say

2632
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 2: good luck out there, pout good luck on the tables.

2633
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:26,720
Speaker 1: Brother.

2634
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 8: I appreciate you guys. Maybe I'll play the song when

2635
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:30,880
Speaker 8: I'm at the stable. I'll give me a walk.

2636
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 1: There you go.

2637
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 2: That's Mark mcdana. You catch them on Fox Sports Radio

2638
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:37,959
Speaker 2: all the time. His on Twitter at Mark g Underscore.

2639
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 2: Medina and get this also on threads at Syracuse Medina

2640
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 2: better follow me back Madina on threads. Martin de Vida

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Speaker 11: High Lake kick coming to the plate, He'll steal third base.

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Speaker 1: Elidena Cruise will without even a throw the third baseman Brian.

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Speaker 11: Brian, and so it didn't even go and that was

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Speaker 1: He threw the ball back to the pitcher.

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Speaker 11: He fell asleep with the ball in his glove, and

2650
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Speaker 11: Dan La Cruz took off from third base into home

2651
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Speaker 11: and he steals home while the pitcher tries to unload

2652
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 11: the ball of the place, couldn't get it to the

2653
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:22,080
Speaker 11: catcher in time, and de la Cruise has simply stolen

2654
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Speaker 11: the run all by himself.

2655
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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati REGI radio network right there, Ellie Dala Cruz,

2662
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead. We have to come up with

2663
01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 2: some type of nickname for this guy. I don't know

2664
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 2: what it is yet, but he is d for right

2665
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 2: now at this point, one of the most electric athletes

2666
01:55:57,560 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 2: to watch in sports. Go ahead, braand you got something?

2667
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? I got one? What you got so, Ellie Dla Cruz?

2668
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean I could think of like E d C

2669
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 1: Electric Daisy Carnival. Is he so electric? Electric Daisy? O? Wait?

2670
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 6: Dies that that?

2671
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 1: That's the festival? Okay, Yeah, I got you? Okay, E

2672
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 1: d C. I think I think of Dayla Soul the

2673
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 1: I got you?

2674
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, something off that Actually like that too because for

2675
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 4: some reason me, myself and I comes into play.

2676
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 1: That was one of their head tracks.

2677
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 4: Because he does so many different things, like you know

2678
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:32,560
Speaker 4: he does so he basically can win by himself.

2679
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:35,600
Speaker 1: He got an RB I h himself and I. Yeah, yeah,

2680
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 1: he got an RB I and then stole three bases. Well,

2681
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:39,560
Speaker 1: I am mad. I did not play that on the

2682
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 1: bounce back. Now you're just putting that in my head

2683
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 1: right now? Damn. I got that right, I got that,

2684
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 1: I got that right right? He does?

2685
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:45,160
Speaker 3: He?

2686
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 2: He singled, does he get an RB I for stealing

2687
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 2: home base? Stealing home play rather than no, I don't

2688
01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:56,240
Speaker 2: think not bad. I know accounts as a run, but

2689
01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, I was just like wondering, like but anyway,

2690
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:00,000
Speaker 2: he did it all by his dog on self.

2691
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 1: He manufactured a run all by himself.

2692
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 2: Pretty manufactured or run the factory. Elie de la Cruz

2693
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 2: a factory. I don't know something. I'm coming up with something.

2694
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:11,640
Speaker 2: We got to bring nicknames back.

2695
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 7: Not just initials too. Everyone's been doing initials for like

2696
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 7: ten years, and yeah, it's.

2697
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: Been longer than that.

2698
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:19,600
Speaker 4: It started, you know where it started real talk, especially

2699
01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 4: in our business Sports center, everybody was Rob Flow. Robert

2700
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 4: Florish was Robbed Flow, Linda Cone was el Coo. We

2701
01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 4: do it with Chrisau. CP three, I think was the

2702
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:34,560
Speaker 4: first point. KG was first home boy, but Kevin Garnett

2703
01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:36,640
Speaker 4: was also the big ticket. Like he had other nicknames,

2704
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 4: but CP three has been just c CP three. I tried,

2705
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 4: but that's but that has been his nickname. There's no other,

2706
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 4: like you know, the fighting mouse. I think my breaking point.

2707
01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:49,720
Speaker 7: I think my breaking point was when everyone stopped calling

2708
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 7: Adrian Peterson a D and kept saying a p A

2709
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:53,680
Speaker 7: to fight them and say.

2710
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:56,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's a D for all day exactly. And

2711
01:57:56,280 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 1: that goes back to Oklahoma.

2712
01:57:57,760 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 2: And that's because his dad he said this pop game

2713
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 2: the nick because they he could just run all day.

2714
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 2: He could run all day long. That goes back to

2715
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 2: his freshman year at Oklahoma. Nineteen hundred yards, twenty something

2716
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 2: touchdowns like that. Hey, if there was a guy that

2717
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:12,080
Speaker 2: could have came out of college as a true freshman,

2718
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:13,880
Speaker 2: just off the top of my head, that I can

2719
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,960
Speaker 2: think about Adrian Peterson. The other one, I think the

2720
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 2: more reason I think Leonard Fournette could have come out

2721
01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 2: of college as a freshman.

2722
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:22,839
Speaker 1: I think I agree with that. I think Leonard Fournette

2723
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:23,600
Speaker 1: like it's funny.

2724
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 2: It sounds funny now seven years later, eight years later,

2725
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 2: but when he was coming out of LSU.

2726
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 1: My god, man, I'll give you another one. Mike Vick.

2727
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Mike vic shitting had to go back. Mike Vick.

2728
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 4: People remember that National Championship game against Florida State. He

2729
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:40,640
Speaker 4: tore two players acls and these were two NFL. One

2730
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:43,200
Speaker 4: was the first round draft pick. He was cutting on

2731
01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:45,520
Speaker 4: dimes and if you ever watch his thirty for thirty

2732
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:48,720
Speaker 4: are the VIC Experience documentary, he talks about that.

2733
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:51,000
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, he goes, that night, I was leaving

2734
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 1: acls on the turf and he was.

2735
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:54,640
Speaker 7: I think a lot of people want to compare like

2736
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 7: running backs to Barry Sanders, but Michael Vick is probably

2737
01:58:57,520 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 7: the closest to like Barry Sanders for just that reason

2738
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:00,880
Speaker 7: cutting power.

2739
01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:02,840
Speaker 1: Like Emma Smith didn't have that cutting power.

2740
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 4: I got something for both of you guys, For you,

2741
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 4: Chris and for Martin. You Detroit Lion fans a tweet

2742
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:09,160
Speaker 4: we got here from sports Q new listener that we

2743
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 4: picked up.

2744
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to a show. We appreciate it,

2745
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:12,640
Speaker 1: he says, mark it down.

2746
01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:15,480
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins will have an all Pro season as he

2747
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:18,120
Speaker 4: looks to finish this contract with the Vikings and looks

2748
01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 4: to be traded to this forty nine Ers reunite with

2749
01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan where he had his great seasons when they

2750
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 4: were both formerly with the team known as the Redskins.

2751
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:30,080
Speaker 4: So there's somebody else that kind of fills Detroit. But

2752
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:33,560
Speaker 4: they think Minnesota it's gonna take that division.

2753
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're wrong. But I've heard this.

2754
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 2: I've heard this a few different times. Right now, VJ,

2755
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:45,080
Speaker 2: right now, Top four quarterbacks the NFC go in the NFC, Jayleen,

2756
01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:49,320
Speaker 2: I'm here in the time in my ear. Jalen Hurts NFC.

2757
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:58,280
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford Wow, Kirk Cousins, Wow.

2758
01:59:58,400 --> 01:59:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's tough. That's tough.

2759
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 2: Been asking people who's the fourth best quarterback of the NFC,

2760
02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 2: and you know what the answer is. They don't know

2761
02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:06,320
Speaker 2: the third it goes Hurts, and then I don't know

2762
02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:08,800
Speaker 2: the answer after that, and maybe Aaron Torres will know

2763
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:09,160
Speaker 2: the answer.

2764
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:12,320
Speaker 1: He's up next with Taxson I bless everybody. Fox Sports Radio,