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Speaker 2: Yes, man, how's y'all weekend? It was good for Saturday.
Speaker 2: That ring was crazy. Yeah, that was that was that
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Speaker 2: No, not the weekend for you.
Speaker 4: I hate to see it.
Speaker 2: I hate to see it this. Uh well, I'm just
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Speaker 2: hating Easby. She's now hating Easby from upstairs. Man, she
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Speaker 4: It was off the charts.
Speaker 2: It was glad.
Speaker 4: They did it right.
Speaker 5: They did it right on Saturday, did right, cold as
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Speaker 2: It was like that for really, that's what's up.
Speaker 4: Glad to see y'all had a good Saturday.
Speaker 2: I helped them with the open bar to put the youth. Yeah,
Speaker 2: everything is good, man.
Speaker 4: I love to see it, man, I love to see it.
Speaker 2: Got a picture with Judge Ryan Hope, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know from from Beverly Hills Cop and Fast Times,
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Speaker 5: I've only seen pieces Beverly Hills cop. You know, that's
Speaker 5: one of my favorite, one of my favorite. Yeah, So
Speaker 5: hold on, was he in the was that Wally World,
Speaker 5: Beverly Hills, Yeah he was, Yeah, he's in all of them.
Speaker 4: Okay, it is here. It is. What's going on, bro, Cowboys? Uh,
Speaker 4: draft taking injured players, especially in the second round, has
Speaker 4: been something that they've done. They have, so let's get
Speaker 4: your thoughts.
Speaker 5: I mean, they've had success when you look back all
Speaker 5: the way to you know, from what I can remember,
Speaker 5: Bruce Carter, he was coming off that a c L.
Speaker 5: He had a really good, you know, career here with
Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys. Sean Lee of course in the second round. Uh,
Speaker 5: So they've had success developing these guys, getting them right.
Speaker 5: The guy you know, mister Smith, he was the second
Speaker 5: round pick too as well, right, so he he had
Speaker 5: a couple Jalen Smith, he had a.
Speaker 4: Couple of good years here as well.
Speaker 5: You know, to me, man, he just got to be
Speaker 5: right because because if you're not, that's the second round pick,
Speaker 5: you know, and the injuries just keep piling up. The
Speaker 5: next thing, you know, you had a second round pick
Speaker 5: and a guy that's supposed to come in here, and
Speaker 5: if you're a second round you're supposed to contribute immediately,
Speaker 5: whether it's starting or you know, you're getting a lot
Speaker 5: of snaps out there. So if they do go that route,
Speaker 5: you know, they just better be right like they're were
Speaker 5: in the past with those guys that I just named,
Speaker 5: because if you're not, that's that's almost two years in
Speaker 5: a row where that second round draft pick really hasn't
Speaker 5: panned out. You know, maybe we'll see a little bit more,
Speaker 5: you know, coming from schoolmaker, but from what I've seen
Speaker 5: so far, that would be two years back to back
Speaker 5: where that second round pick, you know, didn't provide much
Speaker 5: for your team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but you also have to throw in there.
Speaker 2: Diggs was the second round pick. I mean, come on,
Speaker 2: so you had some success in the second round. I
Speaker 2: think more than anything, what has been the thing that
Speaker 2: is kind of caught my attention as just the Cowboys
Speaker 2: affinity for injured players coming into the draft. You've heard
Speaker 2: about Jonathan Brooks being you know, there's been some attention
Speaker 2: on him. And obviously you need a running back, you do.
Speaker 2: I don't killing no money saying you need a running back,
Speaker 2: but you know they're going out on the limb. You
Speaker 2: just mentioned I think you just mentioned Jalen Smith, you know,
Speaker 2: and taking him out of Notre Dame with a horrible
Speaker 2: injury that he you know's probably the reason why guys
Speaker 2: don't play in Bowl games now because of what happened
Speaker 2: to Jalen Smith. But you get a guy like that
Speaker 2: and he comes back from drop foot, they were very
Speaker 2: patient with him. But these these injuries, I mean, you're
Speaker 2: able to get picked these guys up, man, and obviously
Speaker 2: try and make them into something based off of what
Speaker 2: their past performance was. And I just you know, Jonathan
Speaker 2: Brooks out of the University of Texas, to me, man,
Speaker 2: it's just one of those guys that you hope is
Speaker 2: going to be there for the Cowboys to pick, even
Speaker 2: with the injury. I mean, even with it. I mean
Speaker 2: tshar Choice talked about him, former Dallas Cowboy and the
Speaker 2: University of Texas coach man, when he talks about this kid,
Speaker 2: he glows about. I mean, you know, is gonna keep
Speaker 2: it real, He's gonna keep it a buck and and
Speaker 2: he's you know, talked about him being a dog and
Speaker 2: you need that, you need that in between the tackles guy.
Speaker 2: But also obviously you be a little h You're gonna
Speaker 2: shy away from a guy coming off of an injury
Speaker 2: like that. But the doctor from the Cowboys did do
Speaker 2: the injury. Can he do all the other intangibles? Can he,
Speaker 2: you know, pick up blocks, you know all those things
Speaker 2: he catch out of the backfield? Yes, all those things.
Speaker 2: So look, this is gonna be an interesting couple of
Speaker 2: days for the Cowboys who they pick up in this draft. Man,
Speaker 2: and I'm just give me a running back, please go
Speaker 2: to all give me whatever you call him. Just give
Speaker 2: me a dog, please, I got you.
Speaker 4: Jonathan Brooks is six foot two hundred and sixteen pounds.
Speaker 4: According to the Cowboys Draft Guy, his comparison is lebyon
Speaker 4: Bell Kyle Yeomens. Number two running back is Trey Benson
Speaker 4: out of Florida State stateful dude to sixteen a senior.
Speaker 4: His comparison is aj Dillon and Bucky is number three
Speaker 4: like him about His comparison is Kyraene Williams, who's with
Speaker 4: the Rams. Blake Koram, Michigan national champion, ran behind a massive,
Speaker 4: big offensive line. His comparison is Zach Moss. But Blake
Speaker 4: korm is small five eight two o five a very
Speaker 4: interesting kid Audric estimate out of Notre Dame five eleven
Speaker 4: two twenty one. Carlos Hyde has been his comparison. There's
Speaker 4: an interesting type of player like that. He's he is
Speaker 4: a big back. If you're concerned about third and two.
Speaker 4: There's a gentleman right there that they could definitely be
Speaker 4: on the radar. Kid out of Kentucky Ray Davis five
Speaker 4: eight to eleven. His comparison to Sony Michelle. Mike McCarthy's
Speaker 4: had an affinity for Wisconsin guys in his career. Brayln
Speaker 4: Allen six foot one, two hundred and thirty five pounds.
Speaker 4: That's a big boy I see in him play Brian
Speaker 4: Robinson junior his comparison there and the thing that they
Speaker 4: wrote about here and the cowboy guy. The con on
Speaker 4: him is a bit of a fumbling issue with four
Speaker 4: fumbles as both a freshman and a junior. And Allen
Speaker 4: never really pieced together a run as a receiver.
Speaker 5: So and you know, out of all those backs, at
Speaker 5: all those backs, to me, I like the body type
Speaker 5: that can get downhill in a hurry, like like I understand,
Speaker 5: like you know our offsive line.
Speaker 4: You know, we're getting things together.
Speaker 5: We have some great vets along with some you know,
Speaker 5: guys that are getting better as they go along. I
Speaker 5: feel like the back that would compliment our offensive line
Speaker 5: right now will be a straight downhill guy. You know,
Speaker 5: no duking, no jive and no trying to create space
Speaker 5: and all that stuff. Straight downhill and punish just this,
Speaker 5: these defenses that the Cowboys are going against, you know,
Speaker 5: these past couple of years, you know, since Zeke's departure
Speaker 5: and since he's been split in time with TP, we
Speaker 5: really never had that guy that can just get downhill
Speaker 5: and punish these you know, defenses, make them respect the run.
Speaker 5: I mean, the defenses were playing with us with a
Speaker 5: light box with Tony Polla last year and allowing those
Speaker 5: guys to put people in coverage to make those wind
Speaker 5: these murky or those windows murky for Dak Prescott in
Speaker 5: the passing game and play action. If you got a
Speaker 5: guy that can get downhill in a hurry as a defender,
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, once you hit these guys a couple
Speaker 5: of times, you know you're gonna be like, I gotta
Speaker 5: get in this box early. I can't, you know, play
Speaker 5: around this guy. I gotta get in the box earlier
Speaker 5: to stop him before he gets started. That'll open up
Speaker 5: so many more things for Dak Prescott in this passing offense.
Speaker 5: So to me, all those backs, you know, they've got
Speaker 5: great skills individually, but I like the guy that can
Speaker 5: get downhill in a hurry, hit the hole if it's
Speaker 5: two three yards in the cloud of dust, okay, make
Speaker 5: that defense respective and that'll bring that coverage up and
Speaker 5: allow Dak Prescott with the weapons he has on the
Speaker 5: outside to expose these defenses.
Speaker 4: So to me, I like that downhill guy man, you
Speaker 4: know with that, And I.
Speaker 2: Like where you're going with that BC because really, to me,
Speaker 2: that's the intriguing thing about rico' dadele because that's him.
Speaker 2: He don't have a lot to him. He's the one cut,
Speaker 2: go kind of guy. And you mentioned the offensive line
Speaker 2: and having to build this offensive line back up with
Speaker 2: the guys that you have missing. I think he fits
Speaker 2: the bill as well. And look you right now you
Speaker 2: go and you sign the Royce Freeman, who is uh
Speaker 2: have to give that you know, credit uh that to
Speaker 2: the organization bringing him in. But right now, your your
Speaker 2: backfield is Ross Freeman, Duce, Von Malik Davis and ricco o'dadele.
Speaker 2: You want to you want to you need another guy
Speaker 2: in the mix to compete and and I think and
Speaker 2: I just believe that wholeheartedly the Cowboys are going to
Speaker 2: do that. I don't believe that this is your you know,
Speaker 2: beginning of training camp backs. Uh, you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 2: add a rookie to it in some way. And if
Speaker 2: they don't go through the draft, the thing obviously free agency,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have somebody in there as well. But I
Speaker 2: think ricco' dadle fits the bill for exactly what you're
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 4: Hill one cut Imani Bailey of TCU has been a
Speaker 4: player that's come to visit over here at the Star
Speaker 4: five seven to two, big twelve performer Jason McClellan of Alabama.
Speaker 4: It's been someone else who's had interest from the team.
Speaker 4: He's five eleven two twenty one big.
Speaker 2: And a local guy. I mean, Jase McClellan got an
Speaker 2: opportunity to call his games in high school. Chris Beam
Speaker 2: in the back, he knows he knows this guy pretty well. Man.
Speaker 2: It's uh, he is a big, physical kid. Can I
Speaker 2: also catch the ball? So that would be And I
Speaker 2: don't know what grade they have on McClellan. I know
Speaker 2: he's going to be a later round guy. But you
Speaker 2: have some opportunity there, especially when you mentioned the money.
Speaker 2: Bailey also a local kid, just fast, fast, quick twitch,
Speaker 2: but he's more of the type that you're not looking for.
Speaker 2: He's a space player. Yeah, he's definitely you know, in
Speaker 2: between and you know that that short area quickness kind
Speaker 2: of guy.
Speaker 5: It's nothing, you know, no, we can have, you know,
Speaker 5: power back in a space guy. You know she had
Speaker 5: those too. You know, I have to be wrapped up
Speaker 5: in one package, but you know I definitely lean to
Speaker 5: is the guy that's gonna be downhill putting that shoulder
Speaker 5: pass in the guy's chest.
Speaker 4: So we'll see what's happening. We'll say Cody Schrader out
Speaker 4: of Missouri had a really good year, and you know
Speaker 4: there's potentially another player. Frank Gore Junior played in the
Speaker 4: East West Shrine Bowl over here at the Fords and
Speaker 4: it was MVP. Obviously his daddy, Frank Gore Senior, many
Speaker 4: many great years in the NFL M Southern Mississippi five
Speaker 4: two hundred pounds. So by all accounts, we could probably
Speaker 4: expect to see a running back taken by the club
Speaker 4: at some point. And the question I think has to be,
Speaker 4: is it in round two or three. You don't have
Speaker 4: a fourth round pick, and so it's going to be
Speaker 4: interesting because they have a lot of needs. So we'll dive,
Speaker 4: you know, obviously, see what happens. Come Thursday's take our
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Speaker 2: You mean that he's gonna call this lawyer immediately with
Speaker 2: a second it does happen.
Speaker 4: That's kinda catch you. What's going down?
Speaker 5: Got the paperwork ready? Quarterback Dak Prescott, I'm on BC. Gone, man,
Speaker 5: I'll let you to.
Speaker 4: Dive into it. But I did put out a tweet
Speaker 4: and I just simply said, name me another quarterback who's
Speaker 4: led the league in touchdown passes, who finished second team
Speaker 4: All Pro that is sitting here wondering about his future
Speaker 4: with the club. Very legitimate, very legitimate.
Speaker 2: Gone, bear go ahead, very like that.
Speaker 5: I get on my mans every now and then, right
Speaker 5: when I only go about what I see out there.
Speaker 4: That's all I can go about what I see out there.
Speaker 4: Do I think he's a hell of a quarterback? Yes?
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 5: I mean you don't get those accolades like nu, he
Speaker 5: just said, without being able to go on the field
Speaker 5: and get things done like you just said, you know,
Speaker 5: let it. Let the league, not just the team, let
Speaker 5: the league and touchdown passes, last year, second team All
Speaker 5: pros in the MVP category, all that great stuff. So
Speaker 5: he is a hell of a quarterback. My thing is,
Speaker 5: and I'm not saying they should go this route. I'm
Speaker 5: not saying it at all, because I believe that he
Speaker 5: should come back to the Dallas Cowboys and he gives
Speaker 5: them the best opportunity to win right now. If that's
Speaker 5: what you know they're trying to do is win this
Speaker 5: year right now. I believe that Prescott gives you the
Speaker 5: best opportunity. But the question I want to pose to
Speaker 5: you guys is, with all this these young guys coming
Speaker 5: out in the draft, there's a lot of you know,
Speaker 5: great talented quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: In this draft.
Speaker 5: Do y'all believe and I could be way off, but
Speaker 5: do y'all believe Prescott is fifty five to sixty million
Speaker 5: dollars better than these young guys coming out the draft
Speaker 5: this year?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely? Okay, yeah, right, no, go ahead. New So
Speaker 4: you bring up the number of sixty million, go back
Speaker 4: to when the number of forty million to DAK got
Speaker 4: for some reason, when DAK is being paid, we look
Speaker 4: at it as a oh my gosh, forty million dollars.
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray now makes forty six million dollars. True, justin
Speaker 4: Herbert Joe Barrow they're well over fifty. The way this
Speaker 4: works with this TV deal and the new batchup money,
Speaker 4: it's gonna go up. Dak Prescott sixty million if that's
Speaker 4: what he gets, because right now that's what you're sitting
Speaker 4: at here. You're gonna be looking at that kind of number.
Speaker 4: This is just going to be where it goes to next. True,
Speaker 4: But for some reason people want to point at the
Speaker 4: player as though, oh my gosh, you say, is he
Speaker 4: worth it? The Cowboys determined he was worth it because
Speaker 4: they wrote it in the contract. They did that. That's true.
Speaker 4: At the end of his day, Jerry and Steven could
Speaker 4: have said no, but they didn't. So they're sitting here
Speaker 4: with the number renegotiated extended. We'll see whatever they do.
Speaker 4: But when you talk about, hey, man, is he worth this?
Speaker 4: With all due respect to Kirk Cousins, is he worth
Speaker 4: the money he is getting right now coming off an
Speaker 4: achilles injury for a guy who's never won anything significantly.
Speaker 4: He asked your quarterback to cut down on his interceptions
Speaker 4: because he led the league in interceptions. He turns around
Speaker 4: and becomes the NFL's passing leader in touchdowns in the
Speaker 4: first year of an offense So when you ask the question,
Speaker 4: in my mind, I look at and I say, outside
Speaker 4: of winning in the playoffs, what else did he do
Speaker 4: in this league that says pay him? That's true, you
Speaker 4: know that.
Speaker 2: No, great, absolutely great point. But you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's why I knew it. That's why you got the Emmys. Man,
Speaker 2: You're the wordsmith, see you. You put it together so well.
Speaker 2: But other than saying what the hell is wrong with everybody?
Speaker 2: And why what it is? What is it about Dak
Speaker 2: that's so polarizing that people are either far left or
Speaker 2: far right? There's nobody in between on Dak right mediocre?
Speaker 2: He had done this, he hadn't done it. He didn't.
Speaker 2: But then when you point to the money that other
Speaker 2: quarterbacks make, it, mum's the word. Nobody even has anything
Speaker 2: to say about these other guys. You give the quarterback
Speaker 2: that you're just talking about at market setting deal and
Speaker 2: he Kirk Cousins at his age coming off of an
Speaker 2: achilles injury, and nobody's even talking about the Achilles injury.
Speaker 2: What is it about Dak? What is it about Dak
Speaker 2: that makes it where he he has to after the
Speaker 2: year that he had answer questions about not being in Dallas.
Speaker 2: If the salary cap whatever it was designed to do,
Speaker 2: quarterbacks it on. All thirty two teams take up about
Speaker 2: fifteen percent of the salary cap. That's the norm. And
Speaker 2: now he's just talking about how the salary cap is
Speaker 2: going up. So if it's three hundred million dollars in
Speaker 2: the next five years or so, quarterbacks are gonna take
Speaker 2: up the lion's share of that, no matter what. Right,
Speaker 2: And you could point to the teams that have rookie
Speaker 2: deals whatever. Joe Burrow ain't on a rookie deal no more,
Speaker 2: all right, and nobody's Matt Stafford is not on a
Speaker 2: rookie deal anymore. Nobody cares about those deals. Look, in
Speaker 2: order to win anything, you have to have a quarterback,
Speaker 2: and you know, building around those quarterbacks is paramount. I
Speaker 2: think the only guy that can do it without any
Speaker 2: talent is Patrick Mahomes, and there's only one of him, okay,
Speaker 2: But everybody else you are gonna have to build around.
Speaker 2: I think the one thing that's puzzling for me is
Speaker 2: if you don't get this deal done, it stops you
Speaker 2: from getting done everything else. You can only bring in
Speaker 2: these B level guys or that's you can't go out
Speaker 2: and get any free agent of note because of you
Speaker 2: not getting Dak's deal done. And look, it's just to me,
Speaker 2: it gets well beyond disrespect when he has to answer
Speaker 2: that question. And I believe it was it wasn't Clarence Hill,
Speaker 2: it was Calvin Watkins that was asking the question. And
Speaker 2: he has to say, you know, look I don't and basically,
Speaker 2: you know being here in Dallas or do you fear
Speaker 2: going somewhere else? And he's and he's like, I don't
Speaker 2: fear either scenario, and exactly what do you think he's
Speaker 2: gonna say? Exactly exactly.
Speaker 4: So let's just run through the numbers, all right, You're
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four quarterback average ranking in in terms of salaries,
Speaker 4: Number one. Joe Burrow fifty five million dollars. Joe Burrow's
Speaker 4: been to Super Bowl, so also had trouble with health.
Speaker 4: Part of that is they have not given him a
Speaker 4: good offensive line in his career at Cincinnati. Justin Herbert
Speaker 4: fifty two point five million dollars. Lamar Jackson fifty two
Speaker 4: million dollars. And keep in mind the year before Lamar
Speaker 4: Jackson basically had to demand a trade, and people think
Speaker 4: there was a collusion about getting him paid despite having
Speaker 4: won an MVP. He got the money and then he
Speaker 4: won a second MVP. Jalen Hurts, who's been to a
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, fifty one million dollars. Kyler Murray forty six
Speaker 4: point one million dollars. Go back to when Kyler Murray
Speaker 4: got his deal, there was a clause in there about
Speaker 4: him studying. Yeah, so there were questions.
Speaker 2: Seriously, put the call of duty down, put the sticks down.
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson guaranteed that he's making forty six million dollars. Yes,
Speaker 4: that was tripping. Joe Flacco was brought in and took
Speaker 4: them to the playoffs. DeShawn was hurt. Number seven Kirk
Speaker 4: Cousins forty five million dollars. Then Patrick Mahomes is with
Speaker 4: him forty five million dollars, Josh Allen forty three million dollars.
Speaker 4: Number ten Matt Stafford forty million dollars, Daniel Jones forty
Speaker 4: million dollars.
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott forty million.
Speaker 4: So if you talk about paying people and you look
Speaker 4: at the production the last three years, how wasn't a
Speaker 4: pretty good team? Is he.
Speaker 2: The Mahomes guy the airon run? No, he's not.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, they made a determination.
Speaker 4: We think you're that they paid the note. And some
Speaker 4: people say, well, okay, fine, move on. What are you
Speaker 4: moving on to? What is Trey Lance showed you? I
Speaker 4: haven't seen anything, and so maybe that's the plan. I
Speaker 4: don't know what it is, but if you don't have
Speaker 4: one of these players, you're going to be in a
Speaker 4: really tough spot. You want to be Tampa Bay. Tampa
Speaker 4: Bay is going to pay Baker Mayfield thirty three million
Speaker 4: dollars this year. Okay, they've saved money, but ultimately, where
Speaker 4: do you see this team two to three years with
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 5: I don't know where do we see the Cowboys in
Speaker 5: two to three years after pay? Because like, if we
Speaker 5: if we pay that, are you able to make these
Speaker 5: other deals get done? Can you pay the CD Lambs?
Speaker 5: Can you pay to Michael Parsons? Absolutely get getting back done.
Speaker 4: So, so to me, I'll counter your point with this,
Speaker 4: is this a quarterback league or not? It is? Okay,
Speaker 4: it is a quarterback league, I will give you that. So,
Speaker 4: so if it's just a quarterback league and you're basing
Speaker 4: things off that, if you don't have one and Trey
Speaker 4: Lance is your best option are you're going to use
Speaker 4: a pick right now? Now you're in the Hope game.
Speaker 4: And Jerry and I keep telling people this, and I
Speaker 4: was here. I saw it. The Quincy Carter Hera to
Speaker 4: Chad Hutchinson, to Clint Sterner, Ryan Leif to oh, let's
Speaker 4: roll out Drew Blood. See, let's put him on the
Speaker 4: Let's get lucky with Tony Romo. They got lucky with Dak.
Speaker 4: So this has not been an operation. It's been finally tuned.
Speaker 4: We've got we've got a plan, we've got a strategy.
Speaker 4: The two quarterbacks that have had the most success here
Speaker 4: they ran into him by accident. Was undrafted. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: only smart thing they really did because Sean Payne tried
Speaker 4: to trade for him, and I don't know where they
Speaker 4: at this point time. Oh maybe he really is good
Speaker 4: Kashawn Watson, But when have they took that leap in
Speaker 4: the first round?
Speaker 5: So they haven't taken that leap, So we can't sit
Speaker 5: there say, Okay, you know they got lucky with this,
Speaker 5: that and the third because they haven't tried that leap
Speaker 5: into the first round.
Speaker 4: Now you know, if it was a fifth, you.
Speaker 5: Know we'd all be But the process of just you know,
Speaker 5: getting lucky on these quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: Isn't that what kind of led them to where we
Speaker 4: are right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Being a great regular season, mediocre playoff.
Speaker 2: Squad and you're picking right around twenty three, twenty four
Speaker 2: every year?
Speaker 4: Is that what this organ like?
Speaker 9: You know?
Speaker 7: That?
Speaker 4: Is that the priority for this organization? Following up on
Speaker 4: what you said, we look at the playoff loss and
Speaker 4: Dak did not have a good game. Defense didn't have
Speaker 4: a good game. Coaching staff didn't have a good game.
Speaker 4: CD lamb didn't have a good game. Offensive line didn't
Speaker 4: have a good game. It wasn't good. I look at
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson two and four in the playoffs, he did
Speaker 4: not have a good game for Baltimore. Offense didn't have
Speaker 4: a good game. And so we look at the performance
Speaker 4: and Dak Prescott two and five in his career, and
Speaker 4: we put it all on the player. And yes, you're
Speaker 4: paying him that much, and when you get paid that much,
Speaker 4: you're supposed to make up for things. How do they
Speaker 4: fix this trend in Baltimore and in Dallas to get
Speaker 4: your franchise quarterbacks playing at this high level that you
Speaker 4: want them to be. And then what else do you do?
Speaker 4: With your team. If we're pointing the finger there, then
Speaker 4: let's also make sure we're looking at other aspects of
Speaker 4: how have you built your football team? Talking about it, man,
Speaker 4: your run defense has been terrible in these games. The
Speaker 4: other teams, these three playoff losses have been able to
Speaker 4: establish the run and make life hard for you, and
Speaker 4: you haven't been able to really effectively run the ball.
Speaker 4: While Tony Pollard did have a nice game against the
Speaker 4: forty nine ers, it was effected, but he got hurt
Speaker 4: brokes leg.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so it's so easy to say that guy, and
Speaker 10: I'll go back to this and I took And sometimes
Speaker 10: it's about fairness, but we always say it's interesting on
Speaker 10: who we choose to forgive and who we choose to condemn.
Speaker 4: Peyton Manning's playoff record we started his career was terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's terrible, thirteen to three seasons getting drilled at home.
Speaker 4: And so once again it's interesting what you'd say, Ah,
Speaker 4: I roll with him and then well get rid of him?
Speaker 4: Getting rid of him, and where are you going to
Speaker 4: do when you haven't been a franchise. It's shown you
Speaker 4: know what to do if you draft Michael Pennings in
Speaker 4: the first round, they're starting all over him. Now, you
Speaker 4: got a quarterback room with Dak, Prescott, Cooper, Rush, Trey Lance,
Speaker 4: Michael Pennings. How are we going to get anyone better?
Speaker 4: That's true? And you know you hear the old trade
Speaker 4: dec What are you trading that for? It's got no
Speaker 4: trade claws? And why would you give up your nerd
Speaker 4: trade class to go someplace without an extension? How many
Speaker 4: teams right now we all look at salary cap and
Speaker 4: people have just spent money. Who's in a position right
Speaker 4: now where they have a slot of sixty million dollars
Speaker 4: that they can go make this deal, give up potential
Speaker 4: draft picks and everything else.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I think the cause and effect of
Speaker 2: everything that you're talking about, especially with teams like Baltimore
Speaker 2: that had to bring in an offensive coordinator to be
Speaker 2: able to coach up guy like Lamar Jackson to make
Speaker 2: him a better quarterback. You know their defense as well,
Speaker 2: they've pretty much built everything around around that. The Cowboys
Speaker 2: felt like they were built to get through the playoffs,
Speaker 2: and you're building to beat the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: I just look whatever Dak did, whatever he's doing to
Speaker 2: tack people off, you know, to get to be this
Speaker 2: polarizing guy that guys will people the media, people won't
Speaker 2: just choose on and say, look, who's better than him,
Speaker 2: because you say, you'd say Herbert in his contract, but
Speaker 2: nobody even questions his record regardless of where he is
Speaker 2: athletically there, Okay, and even when you talk about Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, as polarizing as he is, he found a
Speaker 2: home in Tampa and he made it work, all right,
Speaker 2: So we got to give him credit. Give him credit
Speaker 2: for that. Like not getting an extension done does not
Speaker 2: allow you to sign your star players. And if you're Dak,
Speaker 2: you want to be able to sign a CD LAMB
Speaker 2: because you'll success is equally tied together. Okay, you want
Speaker 2: to be able to bring a running back in that's
Speaker 2: gonna help you have that ball, ball, control, field position,
Speaker 2: all of those things that are running back running back
Speaker 2: gives you if you're Dak Prescott Man, there are no
Speaker 2: We just pointed out there's only one guy that can
Speaker 2: do it with B level talent, you know, but other
Speaker 2: than that, there aren't three or four other quarterbacks that
Speaker 2: you would mention above them. Now there are Dak haters, right,
Speaker 2: now streaming and throwing their phones around because they're like, no,
Speaker 2: I didn't get Michael Pennix, but for who?
Speaker 7: For what?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Come on? Like you you are definitely starting all over again.
Speaker 2: Maybe that helps you with your contract negotiation with the
Speaker 2: rest of these guys, but that puts you back at
Speaker 2: square one as it relates to the talent and at
Speaker 2: the quarterback position. When in the NFL, the most coveted
Speaker 2: position is the quarterback, and we are treating ours like
Speaker 2: you know, red head step child, I guess you shout
Speaker 2: out to all the redheads.
Speaker 4: Do you want to become the Pittsburgh Steelers? No, no,
Speaker 4: where the Steelers right now?
Speaker 2: And quarterback?
Speaker 4: Hell, you don't want that trade for Russell Wilson for nothing? Yeah,
Speaker 4: you make a trade for Justin Fields. How confident do
Speaker 4: you feel in them even though you know they're going
Speaker 4: to make the playoffs because of the Mike Tomlin ten
Speaker 4: wander in the desert Washington since Kirk Cousins left and
Speaker 4: they didn't sign him. Look at them the road to
Speaker 4: what are we doing a quarterback? It's real, real hard.
Speaker 4: Atlanta got rid of Matt Ryan. Look at them, Mary Joe,
Speaker 4: So you can question the sixty million dollars and say
Speaker 4: what about this? And can he take them? And you
Speaker 4: can say all of these things, and I will not
Speaker 4: sit here and debate you to say you're wrong, but
Speaker 4: I will come back to the thing. This is hard.
Speaker 4: We got too many teams out here who don't have
Speaker 4: somebody the New England Patriots. Okay, we're gonna let Tom
Speaker 4: Brady lee. Oh, we can get cheaper, we can get this,
Speaker 4: we can get that. Oh we'll use a first round
Speaker 4: pick that Jones made the Pro Bowls first year. Where
Speaker 4: are you at now.
Speaker 2: Looking Jordan Love is.
Speaker 4: The example and the hope that you would think at
Speaker 4: some point in time teams would do, let's draft a quarterback.
Speaker 4: While we have a quarterback, let's develop him, and let's
Speaker 4: get ready to go. Trey Lance, in a sense, is
Speaker 4: supposed to be that type of player. But we haven't
Speaker 4: seen anything just yet. No, so let's get a break
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Speaker 4: round one in Detrouce. Sure who is your dream pick
Speaker 4: at number twenty four? Heck Maherrison.
Speaker 2: You know, hey, this is dream pick because we've already
Speaker 2: done what we know, being sensible about what we're going
Speaker 2: to get in the draft. And I've already said offensive
Speaker 2: line first track for first pick. All right, So who
Speaker 2: is my dream my dream pick? And this is gonna
Speaker 2: it's gonna be all North Texas. Uh here on my
Speaker 2: dream pick, that's gonna be not North Texas University. I'm
Speaker 2: talking got you. I've had to get in my back
Speaker 2: I go. I'm gonna go with my mayor, Byron Murphy,
Speaker 2: Barron Murphy from the University of Texas. My comp for
Speaker 2: Byron Murphy has always been Corey Simon. You remember Corey
Speaker 2: Simon from Florida State doing the Florida Florida State Power
Speaker 2: Days with mas. No, it's the defense line, defense line,
Speaker 2: and so uh one of those guys six foot, three
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty pounds, but just one of those immovable
Speaker 2: objects in the middle of your defense. And I just
Speaker 2: believe that Byron Murphy, he's been that way since he
Speaker 2: played it in high school here at DeSoto. Uh Man,
Speaker 2: just one of those guys that I think is gonna
Speaker 2: be a fabulous pro And if we can get some
Speaker 2: talent like that, man, and I'm jacking that from you. Too,
Speaker 2: by the way, But Byron Murphy is my is my guy,
Speaker 2: and the other guy if we trade back, if we
Speaker 2: trade out Tavian Sanders from the University of Texas. Also,
Speaker 2: he's a t Texas guy. Yeah, he's a tight end.
Speaker 2: He's from North Texas, so athletic cat. Don't let him.
Speaker 2: Don't let him follow the Kansas City. It's gonna be trouble. Trouble, yes, sir, uh,
Speaker 2: well for me because you went d line, you know,
Speaker 2: the d limp pic.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna stay on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna give up on Mozzi just yet. You know,
Speaker 5: I'm hoping he could got that hope you'll pack on me.
Speaker 5: I'm hoping he's able to come through. And we've seen
Speaker 5: the jump that Tolbert was able to make, you know,
Speaker 5: from his rookie year, his second year. Hopefully Mazie can't.
Speaker 5: I'm saying hopefully a lot, but he can he can
Speaker 5: make that job. I'm not asking him to be you know,
Speaker 5: Warren Sap or Aaron Donald, I'm not asking that. But
Speaker 5: can he be you know Hankins? Can he be Hankins consistently?
Speaker 5: If he can do that, I'll be alright with that
Speaker 5: for the second year. So my dream pick is going
Speaker 5: to be the cat, the linebacker from Mississippi State.
Speaker 4: I believe in that Cooper very yeah, I'm sorry, very
Speaker 4: fast Faraga athletic.
Speaker 5: If you put him next to the Kendricks, who's been
Speaker 5: in the league since forever, since I was playing in
Speaker 5: the league, he can show on the ropes. You gotta
Speaker 5: have that one two combo at that linebacker spot. When
Speaker 5: this team had that at you know, the Jayalen Smith
Speaker 5: and the Wolf Hunter when he was on a rookie year, the.
Speaker 2: Defense was rolling.
Speaker 4: They was making plays left and right.
Speaker 5: So if Mozzie can do his thing on the inside
Speaker 5: and just be Hankins consistently, my dream pick would it
Speaker 5: have to be Cooper at that linebacker spot sideline and
Speaker 5: sideline guy can blitz.
Speaker 4: He'd be a nice piece dream pick. I want to
Speaker 4: just address Mazzie shoulder surgery, lost weight at the end
Speaker 4: of the year. Yeah, right now, he's your only one
Speaker 4: tech Yeah yeah, that come on wise, They got to
Speaker 4: help him for you, man, But where's the trust, time, proof,
Speaker 4: and consistency. Are you ready to just trust him? And
Speaker 4: when you say Jalen Tolbert Okay, I want you to
Speaker 4: understand what you said when you tried to compare his
Speaker 4: hey Jalen Tolbert disappointing rookie year, then second Jalen Tolbert
Speaker 4: came into his second year, Ceede Land was the number
Speaker 4: one receiver and Cooks was the number two receiver. Michael
Speaker 4: Gallant was a number three receiver. It was the number four.
Speaker 4: You weren't sitting around here looking for him to be
Speaker 4: a starter. Right now you're talking about Monsie Smith in
Speaker 4: a starting role. That should scare you because that's a
Speaker 4: whole lot of hope. That is he said hope a lot.
Speaker 2: So that's what he already told you about to hope
Speaker 2: you that was in that take is hope?
Speaker 4: Is hope the right strategy? And you look at that
Speaker 4: and I just say, I just want to make sure
Speaker 4: we put it all in there about when we talk
Speaker 4: about it, and that's what we're saying at number twenty four.
Speaker 4: I actually hope that you make a trade down. They
Speaker 4: don't have a fourth round pick because you gave it
Speaker 4: up for Trey Lance. And I had no problem with that,
Speaker 4: which is why not taking a quarterback? According to Stephen
Speaker 4: Jones in the draft, But if you can trade down
Speaker 4: a little bit, then you have an option to maybe
Speaker 4: secure a center in the second round or Edderan Cooper
Speaker 4: in the second round, and then maybe someone else later
Speaker 4: and potentially you know, two second round picks. If you
Speaker 4: can get yourself a let's say, the linebacker in the
Speaker 4: center from West Virginia Fraser. You need walk in starters,
Speaker 4: you need that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, off the bus, Off the bus, guys, I'm with you.
Speaker 4: So if you can trade down and try to pick
Speaker 4: something up there and then dream to arrow, to me,
Speaker 4: I think that makes a lot of sense because there's
Speaker 4: so many holes that they need to have filled here.
Speaker 2: But you're gonna have to give us somebody though, knowing
Speaker 2: who's your dream pick now you just said.
Speaker 4: So if you trade back and you get yourself in
Speaker 4: the second round and you can get a high second
Speaker 4: round pick, that's what I think about. A player like
Speaker 4: an Edren Cooper or set the center from West Virginia
Speaker 4: Fraser walk in starters. So I'm talking about Cooper's got
Speaker 4: the ability to rush the passer, that kind of player,
Speaker 4: you know, A and M. You know he's a fast guy,
Speaker 4: CEC player, Fraser the center, he's a bigger he's a
Speaker 4: bigger than Tyler. He can hold him.
Speaker 2: He's got bricks in the pocket.
Speaker 4: And I was told he was one of the great
Speaker 4: character players at West Virginia who coming into the season
Speaker 4: people were picking last in the Big twelve or near
Speaker 4: last in the Big twelve, and that the coach was
Speaker 4: going to get fired. They turned that thing around, and
Speaker 4: so he was one of those kind of key players
Speaker 4: in the room. You talk about a character guy and
Speaker 4: what you need in the center spot. That's what I
Speaker 4: think about. And so there's where I'm thinking of when
Speaker 4: I say trade back potentially, Hey, do you have two
Speaker 4: second round picks and do something with those where you
Speaker 4: can address needs up front. You got to get your needs.
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