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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds. And Trump threatens protesters who reign on

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Speaker 1: his military parade Saturday that they will be met with

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Speaker 1: big fours. We have a great show for you today.

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Speaker 1: Inside Elections, Jacob Lubashkin stops by to talk about his

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Speaker 1: new report on how the House is shaping up for

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Speaker 1: the midterms. Then we'll talk to Democratic House Leader Keem

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Speaker 1: Jeffries about the status of the phoebeb Big Bullshit Bill.

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Speaker 1: Plus we have a special bonus interview with Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: So Molly, like all things Trump, the planning just really

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Speaker 2: isn't their thing, you know, for people who had this

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Speaker 2: like Project twenty twenty five for like years before they

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Speaker 2: got in office. Everything they've done aside from that, the

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Speaker 2: planning is just, oh Jesus.

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Speaker 3: Not good.

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Speaker 1: This crew is not good at planning. We have a

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Speaker 1: few protests in California, all of which were started by

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Speaker 1: ice cruelly kidnapping these people who were day laborers were

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Speaker 1: looking for work in the home depot parking lot. This

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Speaker 1: hate immigrants, so they deployed these troops to La. Now

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Speaker 1: here's the thing about La. La has a housing problem.

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Speaker 1: So here we have all these troops with nowhere to sleep.

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Speaker 1: And he said, you know these are so you have

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Speaker 1: So he's nationalized the California Guard. And then, because DoD

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Speaker 1: Secretary Pete Hegst has never seen a photo op he

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to get involved with, he sent seven hundred

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Speaker 1: active duty Marines. Now what are these marines going to do?

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Speaker 1: There aren't even seven hundred at least. I mean Sunday

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Speaker 1: many protesters. So now you have four thousand National guardsmen,

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Speaker 1: and there's no place for them to sleep. There's no

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Speaker 1: setup for this, there's no planning for this. And Newsome

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Speaker 1: sensing the political opportunity, and he's right. It tweets out,

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Speaker 1: on the floor. Now these images have gone viral. I

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Speaker 1: That said, there definitely are Republicans who are saying and

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Speaker 1: in fact, the Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnow accused Newsom of

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Speaker 1: using the troops as political props. This is a little

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Speaker 1: ironic because these troops are actually there for political reasons,

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Speaker 1: not for actual war reasons. But there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: troops and marines would be about one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: four million dollars. That's money that could be spent on

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Speaker 1: just creating an atmosphere where you can use all of it.

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Speaker 1: It's reality television, right, it's reality television. Trump thinks authoritarianism

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Speaker 1: last week actually wrote a column about this. So in

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Speaker 1: wrote this column about how last week was actually a

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Speaker 1: really bad week for Trump. Elon was really crazy. This

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Speaker 2: So this person was very early to this idea. It's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so interesting in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: The whole idea of fraud raised interviews. They kept saying it.

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Speaker 1: But remember Elon had no government experience. He just didn't

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Speaker 1: example of how they were using people to confirm their priors.

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Speaker 1: Abuse to me feels relatively non existent. This guy told MPR,

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Speaker 1: example of how Elon wasn't transparent. Because if you were transparent,

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Speaker 1: really this was about killing government programs that Elon didn't like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and speaking of doge, judges determined that OPM broke

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, Elon had before he got involved in politics,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I always go back to that. Peter Thiel told

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Speaker 2: the late David Graeber that their motto at PayPal was

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Speaker 2: to ask for forgiveness. Rather than permission, and this was

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Speaker 1: Yep, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: So my the most horrifying news of the day I

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Speaker 2: the current members of the CDC Vaccine Advisory Committee.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he said he wasn't going to He said

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Speaker 1: absolutely did it. His seventeen member Advisory Committee on Ammusation Practices,

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Speaker 1: the entire panel. It's unprecedented. It may actually, like so

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Speaker 1: many things this administration does not be legal. But you know,

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Speaker 1: air pediatricians, etymologists, immunologists, and I'm telling you those are

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Speaker 1: not people that RFK Junior agrees with. So here we are,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Jacob Rabashkin is an analyst and reporter

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Speaker 1: for Inside Elections. Welcome to Fast Politics.

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Speaker 4: Jacob, thank you so much for having me. It is

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Speaker 4: always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about you have new house race information pulling,

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Speaker 1: let's go, and also you have on the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's get into it because there's so much

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Speaker 4: It is the House of Representatives. And at the moment,

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Speaker 4: you know, Democrats are on offense right they've got the

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Speaker 4: right now, you know we've got our ten toss up races,

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Speaker 1: Just give me them all the famous ones because we're

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Speaker 4: Interestingly enough, Valadeo we actually don't have as a toss up.

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Speaker 1: Can I just ask one question not to just focus

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Speaker 1: you think that the way that Trump is targeting these

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Speaker 1: Yes, Also, though one of the disconnects in the twenty

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that may well be the case. I think,

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Speaker 4: No, absolutely, So, you know, Mike Lawler in New York

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Speaker 1: So Mike Lawler is often on television. He's much more

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Speaker 1: You're seeing from these two twenty twenty five gubernatorial races

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Speaker 4: Yeah, voters are voting in New Jersey. It's exciting. This

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Speaker 1: Is it in New Jersey? I think so who's running

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: He also ran for governor twenty seventeen. He's a known quantity.

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, we saw such shifts in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Virginia, because Virginia seems like a state

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Speaker 4: I think that she's made some unfortunate comments about, you know,

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Speaker 1: Good. Good, let them suffer political consequences for firing all

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So on the Democratic side, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: Would you talk about those primaries? Sorry, finish your thought

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Speaker 4: No, No, I think it's just on the flip side.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about the people being primary because that, I

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Speaker 4: This is something that I think is just getting off

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Speaker 4: The big line here is age.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: We have started to see Democrats talk much more openly

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Speaker 4: the Democratic progressive movement for a very long time. She

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Speaker 4: represents a suburban Chicago district and she got a primary

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Speaker 4: challenge from Kataboogazela, who's a progressive influencer and media researcher,

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Speaker 4: and she ended up not running for election. She announced

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Speaker 4: that she wasn't going to seek another term, so she

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Speaker 4: kind of got pushed out of that race when it

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Speaker 4: became clear things were going to get dicey for her.

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Speaker 4: I really do think that age and kind of willingness

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Speaker 4: to fight, and those two are intertwined. Those two elements

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Speaker 4: are going to be the dividing line in these primaries

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Speaker 4: far more than ideology. You know, we're not in the

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Speaker 4: kind of AOC versus Joe Crawley era of like ideological

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Speaker 4: primaries anymore. We're in the energy and willingness to stand

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Speaker 4: up to Donald Trump era of the Democratic primary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Aren't you seeing with this poland that the

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Speaker 1: base is still very angry at the Democratic Party? Is?

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Speaker 1: I know everywhere I go people want to stop me

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Speaker 1: and tell me how mad they are, So that feels

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Speaker 1: like a real time Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, certainly, the polling that we have in

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Speaker 4: the first you know, half of the first year of

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Speaker 4: the second Trump administration, I think I got that right,

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Speaker 4: would suggest that, you know, Democrats are unhappy with Democrats

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Speaker 4: in Congress, right, Republicans are happy with how their leaders

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Speaker 4: are doing. Democrats are unhappy with how their leaders are

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Speaker 4: handling themselves. That kind of hit a peak, I would say,

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Speaker 4: or you know, a maximum during the debate over keeping

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Speaker 4: the government open and when Chuck Schumer cut that deal

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Speaker 4: to keep the government open after saying he didn't have

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Speaker 4: the votes to cut a deal, and it became a

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Speaker 4: very you know, it was a very contentious moment in

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Speaker 4: intraparty politics. But I think it certainly still holds true

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Speaker 4: right now. Democrats are unhappy. They're in the wilderness, I mean,

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Speaker 4: and they have very little, if any power in DC,

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Speaker 4: and so there's not a whole lot that Democrats in

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Speaker 4: Congress can do to placate their base because they don't

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Speaker 4: have a lot of power, and I think that puts

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Speaker 4: them in a vulnerable position in some of these primaries

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Speaker 4: as they materialize. But you know, we have to see

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Speaker 4: how voters are feeling a year from now, which is

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Speaker 4: going to be more important than how they feel right now.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any polling on sort of the couple

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Speaker 1: of first things Trump has done, like Doge? Like do

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Speaker 1: you give a polling on Doge? Do you see anything

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Speaker 1: you know what is not working for him? What is

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Speaker 1: working for him.

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Speaker 4: As with all these things, it matters kind of how

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Speaker 4: you're asking the question and how you're thinking about these issues.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you mentioned dog in particular. Right, If you

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Speaker 4: ask people, do you believe that there's waste, fraud and

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Speaker 4: abuse in government? You're going to get a very positive result.

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Speaker 4: If you ask people, do you think it's a good

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Speaker 4: idea to increase government efficiency or to reduce waste, fraud

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Speaker 4: and abuse, You're still going to get a very positive result.

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Speaker 3: If you ask.

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Speaker 4: People, do you support what Elon Musk has done in

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Speaker 4: his time is at the federal government in cutting programs,

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Speaker 4: You're gonna get a much more negative result.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: It does kind of depend how you frame it, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think generally speaking, right, like, Trump's popularity has dropped

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Speaker 4: since he got into office. He came in basically the

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Speaker 4: most popular that he's ever been when you know, he

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Speaker 4: took office in January, and since then he's seen his

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Speaker 4: approval rating fall down, you know, into negative territory and

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Speaker 4: stabilized kind of in the you know, mid forty approvals

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Speaker 4: and low fifty disapprovals. And that pretty much holds true

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Speaker 4: across most issues. I mean, economy, trade, inflation are some

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Speaker 4: of his worst right, which is new. That's different from

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Speaker 4: his first term when he was very strong on the economy.

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Speaker 4: But voters really didn't like the trade war stuff. They

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Speaker 4: really didn't like the tariffs. They responded very poorly to

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Speaker 4: the stock market tanking, They are not responding great to

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Speaker 4: the bond market looking shaky, and they really don't like

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Speaker 4: how Trump is handling the econom me. Immigration, right is

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Speaker 4: his best issue now and we kind of forget. But

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Speaker 4: back in the first term, immigration was his worst issue

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Speaker 4: by far. Voters really were not on board with Trump

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Speaker 4: on immigration policy in the first term. They really rejected it.

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Speaker 4: You know, you go back to twenty sixteen and people

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Speaker 4: you ask people about the wall, building the wall, and

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Speaker 4: the wall was getting like twenty five percent support and

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Speaker 4: pulling maybe thirty percent. And things have really improved for

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Speaker 4: Trump on the immigration picture overall. But from a perspective

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Speaker 4: of just this administration, even his support on immigration has

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Speaker 4: fallen a little bit since he took office. It's still

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Speaker 4: his best issue, but there's still a decrease there. And

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Speaker 4: you know, I think it fluctuates depending on what's in

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Speaker 4: the news. Right, So, when the Abrago Garcia case was

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Speaker 4: dominating the news cycle. Voters really didn't like that, and

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Speaker 4: Trump's approval on immigration took a big hit. And since

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Speaker 4: people have kind of moved on from that, we're not

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Speaker 4: talking about al Salvador anymore. You know, Abrego Garcia is back,

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Speaker 4: but everyone else who got sent there is still in

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Speaker 4: ol Salva Or. As voters kind of move on think

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Speaker 4: about other things, his immigration approval has rebounded a bit.

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Speaker 4: You know, we'll see how the situation in southern California

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Speaker 4: plays out. There was a poll out today from you

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Speaker 4: goov that said that voters disapproved of sending in the Marines,

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Speaker 4: sending in the National Guard by about a ten to

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Speaker 4: thirteen point margin. But we're talking like thirty five to

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Speaker 4: forty eight, right, We're not talking, you know, twenty five

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Speaker 4: seventy five disapproval. So I think voters are still kind

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Speaker 4: of figuring out, you know, they're like the rest of us.

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Speaker 4: They're just kind of chasing the latest thing that Trump

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Speaker 4: did and trying to understand it before he does something

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Speaker 4: else that totally shifts the news cycle in the narrative.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Jacob, absolutely all. This This was a lot

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Speaker 4: of fun.

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Speaker 1: Hikeem Jeffries is the House Minority leader and represents New

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Speaker 1: York's eighth congressional district. Welcome Leader, Jeffries.

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Speaker 3: Great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: I just want you to get us up to speed.

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Speaker 1: The BBB made it through the House. We knew it

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Speaker 1: probably would, right because they do have the majority. It

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Speaker 1: is filled with stuff like you can't regulate AI for

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Speaker 1: ten years, a lot of crazy, crazy stuff, stuff to

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Speaker 1: limit judicial oversight, I mean, just not wildly unpopular. Cuts

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Speaker 1: to Medicaid food stamps also grows the deficit three trillion dollars.

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Speaker 1: Talk to me about what that passage was like in

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Speaker 1: the dead of night, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: So the GOP tax scam is one big, ugly bill

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Speaker 3: that will hurt everyday Americans in order to reward their

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Speaker 3: billionaire donors. They're probably three important things to know about

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Speaker 3: the bill. And there are a whole hosts of other items,

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Speaker 3: as you indicated only that are highly problematic. But the

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Speaker 3: three things that I would mention at the top that

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Speaker 3: we battled against during markups throughout the month of May,

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Speaker 3: some of which went on for more than twenty four

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Speaker 3: consecutive hours, and then a marathon session before the Rules

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Speaker 3: Committee the day before the vote. We're more than a

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Speaker 3: hundred different Democrats showed up to testify. We introduced more

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Speaker 3: than five hundred different amendments, and under the leadership of

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Speaker 3: Jim McGovern, the top Democrat on the Rules Committee, really

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Speaker 3: pushed back aggressively against what Republicans are trying to jam

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Speaker 3: down the throats of the American people. And then of

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Speaker 3: course we had the floor vote and debate during the

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Speaker 3: dead of night. Why are Republicans trying to hide this

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Speaker 3: one big, ugly bill from the American people. One, it's

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Speaker 3: the largest cut to Medicaid and healthcare in American history.

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Speaker 3: More than sixteen million Americans will lose their health care.

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Speaker 3: Hospitals will close, nursing homes will shut down, People of

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Speaker 3: course will die, and tens of millions of Americans are

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Speaker 3: going to pay higher premiums, co pays and deductibles. Second

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Speaker 3: issue that the American people should be deeply concerned about,

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Speaker 3: and when they learn about this bill, are opposed to

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Speaker 3: this reckless legislation. It's the largest cut to nutritional assistance

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Speaker 3: in American history. More than three hundred billion dollars will

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Speaker 3: be taken away from the supplemental nutritional Assistance program, which

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Speaker 3: benefits everyday Americans. All across the country, but they are

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Speaker 3: literally taking food out of the mouths of children, seniors,

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Speaker 3: and veterans. Third problem, and final problem that I'd mentioned

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Speaker 3: at the top, is that all of this is being

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Speaker 3: done to provide massive tax breaks to their billionaire donors,

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Speaker 3: and they're going to skyrocket the debt and the deficit

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Speaker 3: by traions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: I want you to talk about the snap cuts because

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Speaker 1: I think it's really important that you talk about what

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Speaker 1: they did with the age of seven. So explain that

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Speaker 1: to us.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so, under current law, if you have a child

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Speaker 3: in the household, these so called work requirements that they

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Speaker 3: would impose don't apply if your child is a teen

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Speaker 3: or a preteen. But under the GOP tax scam, what

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Speaker 3: they are trying to do is effectively say that once

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Speaker 3: your child turns doesn't matter if you have no childcare

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Speaker 3: or capacity to provide for your child outside of the

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Speaker 3: school hours, you're gonna have to find some way to

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Speaker 3: go to work. This basically means that children seven, eight

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Speaker 3: nine years old, very fragile ages, could be left to

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Speaker 3: fend for themselves. Under the Republican view of how to

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Speaker 3: stand up for American families, this is the opposite of

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Speaker 3: family values. But this is an example of the fact

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Speaker 3: that Republicans often say one thing and then do the

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Speaker 3: exact opposite exactly.

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Speaker 1: So talk us through where we are at this very minute.

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Speaker 1: The bill went through, Republicans starting getting pushback, and I

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Speaker 1: think this is really worth thinking about for a second.

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Speaker 1: You know, you had people from Marjorie Taylor Green to

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Speaker 1: the left, right, or really to the middle saying I

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Speaker 1: didn't see any of this in the bell seems unbelievable

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Speaker 1: to me. Now this bill heads to John Tune. Can

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Speaker 1: you just talk us through how intent it is to

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Speaker 1: have Republicans There were two different members and they've probably

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Speaker 1: been more now. They didn't realize what was in the bill.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's incredible. Several different Republicans have openly acknowledged that

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Speaker 3: they didn't read the bill in its entirety and as

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Speaker 3: a result, had no idea what was in it. This

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Speaker 3: is extraordinary because Republicans have not passed a single piece

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Speaker 3: of legislation throughout this entire Congress that makes life better

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Speaker 3: for the American people at all. These aren't serious people,

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Speaker 3: and this hasn't been a serious congressional session. And for

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Speaker 3: the last several months they've been working on this one big,

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Speaker 3: ugly bill, so they have every reason to have known

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Speaker 3: exactly what is in it. As you indicated right at

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Speaker 3: the top, you had an effort to prevent states across

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Speaker 3: the country from reasonably regulating artificial intelligence. This is extraordinary.

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Speaker 3: This is the most significant technological development in modern American history,

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Speaker 3: and Republicans have basically said, we don't want states doing

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Speaker 3: anything about it. It was a blanket prohibition. The other

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Speaker 3: thing that was in the bill that you mentioned at

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Speaker 3: the top, Molly, is an effort to limit the ability

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Speaker 3: of the independent judiciary, the federal courts from being able

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Speaker 3: to hold members of the Trump administration in contempt for

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Speaker 3: a refusal to comply with the law. That's extraordinary as well.

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Speaker 3: Now what's interesting this week, as you mentioned, the bill

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Speaker 3: is over in the Senate as these additional provisions come

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Speaker 3: to light, and Republicans, including people like Marjorie Taylor Green,

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Speaker 3: have said they would have never voted for the bill

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Speaker 3: had they been aware of these provisions. Next time, read

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Speaker 3: your damn.

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Speaker 1: Bill, or at least let have your staffers read it right.

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Speaker 3: Well that's correct, and be briefed about it. If you're going

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Speaker 3: to cast this significant vote that can so dramatically change

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Speaker 3: the quality of life of the people that you represent.

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Speaker 3: Is your responsibility to fully understand what is in it

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Speaker 3: that Republicans in the House this week are going to

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Speaker 3: try to strip out actually the regulation related to artificial

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Speaker 3: intelligence in terms of preventing any states from acting, and

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Speaker 3: strip out the aggressive provision that would prevent certain courts

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Speaker 3: from issuing contempt decisions against members of the Trump administration.

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Speaker 3: So those two things look like they're going to go out,

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Speaker 3: which is a victory for the American right.

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Speaker 1: But the Parliamentarian was never going to go along with that.

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Speaker 1: So this bill is this one piece of legislation that

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration is probably going to pass, right, this

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Speaker 1: is it, And it's a bill that puts together sort

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Speaker 1: of everything it possibly can to keep these tax cuts

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Speaker 1: from expiring, which is really the whole reason that rich

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Speaker 1: people voted for Trump in the first place. So the

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Speaker 1: Parliamentarian was never going to go along with a lot

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Speaker 1: of the work they put in there. So who even knows.

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Speaker 1: We don't even know, right, if Speaker Johnson, you know,

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Speaker 1: knows how this works. I mean, I would love you

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Speaker 1: to talk to us out here. We are in the

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Speaker 1: most important legislative body. Republicans have completely given away their power.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's it like on the day to day

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Speaker 1: you have been in converse a long time, what is

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Speaker 1: it like. Is there anyone who sees how insane this

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Speaker 1: is on the Republican side?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there are a handful of Republicans who

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Speaker 3: know that this is wrong, and we're going to continue

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Speaker 3: to try to press them on a whole variety of

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Speaker 3: issues to have some Liz Channy like courage, some Adam

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Speaker 3: Kinzinger like courage, and some John McCain like courage. All

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Speaker 3: we need are a handful of Republicans in the House

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Speaker 3: and a handful of Republicans in the Senate to do

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Speaker 3: what they know is right and to push back against

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Speaker 3: this GOP taxcam and we can actually stop it. So

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Speaker 3: we're going to continue to work hard to do that.

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Speaker 3: The bill limped out of the House of Representatives by

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Speaker 3: just a single vote, a single vote, and it faces

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Speaker 3: challenges in the Senate. Now. It's interesting because the challenge

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Speaker 3: is that the bill faces in the Senate similar to

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Speaker 3: the issues in the House, or that you have far

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Speaker 3: right Republicans who have basically suggested that the bill correctly,

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Speaker 3: is fiscally irresponsible and will continue to blow a hole

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Speaker 3: in the deficit and saddle our children and grandchildren with

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Speaker 3: trillions of dollars of debt. This was part of the

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Speaker 3: reason that Elon Musk came out against the bill and

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Speaker 3: correctly said that if this was pasted, it would actually

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Speaker 3: set us on a course toward bankrupting America. Then you've

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Speaker 3: got some so called swing seat Republicans who have publicly

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Speaker 3: expressed concern with the out of control nature of the

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Speaker 3: Medicaid cuts, but when it came time to vote, they

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Speaker 3: just caved as they always do and function not as

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Speaker 3: a separate and co equal branch of government, but as

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Speaker 3: a reckless rubber stamp for Donald Trump's extreme agenda. And

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Speaker 3: that was unfortunate in the House. And we've got to

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Speaker 3: try to push for some John McCain like courage in

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Speaker 3: the Senate.

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Speaker 1: I mean, nobody expected the Democrats to be able to

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Speaker 1: stop this bill. But was there behind in the scenes,

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Speaker 1: because we haven't seen any TikTok reporting about what was

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Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes, except it seems as if

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Speaker 1: Mike Johnson was able to sort of bully people. Was

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Speaker 1: there a moment where you felt like there could have

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Speaker 1: been the numbers to derail this thing or now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what's interesting is that it seemed to

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Speaker 3: us that there was a moment of opportunity where you've

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Speaker 3: got twelve to fifteen Republicans and some of the toughest

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Speaker 3: districts that they hold in the country that in any

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Speaker 3: given election cycle can go either way, like a Mike Lawler,

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Speaker 3: Don Bacon and others. David Valadeo's got more Medicaid recipients

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Speaker 3: in the country than any other member of Congress publicly

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Speaker 3: wrote a letter saying he was not going to support

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Speaker 3: a bill that cut Medicaid, and then turned around and

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Speaker 3: supported a bill that represented the largest cut to Medicaid

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Speaker 3: in American history. So the problem is.

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Speaker 1: He may not be able to read right.

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Speaker 3: God, yeah, maybe he didn't read the bill either. And

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Speaker 3: you know the problem is that these swing Sea Republicans,

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Speaker 3: they talk a good game and they go home and

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Speaker 3: they pretend to be moderate, but they vote with the

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Speaker 3: extremists every single time in Washington, DC. All we needed

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Speaker 3: were two of them to step up and join the

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Speaker 3: other two Republicans who were from the far right who

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Speaker 3: voted no, and his bill would have died In fact,

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Speaker 3: all we needed was one of them to do it,

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Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, this bill passed

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Speaker 3: by one vote. So we just have to keep the

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Speaker 3: pressure on them because the more the American people learn

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Speaker 3: about the GOP tax scam, the massive attack on healthcare,

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Speaker 3: the massive attack on nutritional assistance, all being done to

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Speaker 3: benefit their billionaire donors with massive tax breaks, the more

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Speaker 3: the American people rejected, and the greater the pressure is

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Speaker 3: on House and Senate Republicans to do the right thing

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Speaker 3: by their constituents.

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Speaker 1: The Democratic base is I think fractured and also angry,

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Speaker 1: but just from like talking to people on the street.

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Speaker 1: But one of the things that I'm struck by, and

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Speaker 1: I write a lot and I talk to a lot

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Speaker 1: of members, is that Democrats have a sort of way

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Speaker 1: of doing things that is much more polite. You know,

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Speaker 1: everybody is sort of good to each other. They sort

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Speaker 1: of honor these older members, and you know, there's something

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Speaker 1: to be said for that. But as we're seeing now,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the ranking oversight, it's a really good example.

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Speaker 1: But Chasmin Crockett, it has a similar kind of ability

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Speaker 1: to communicate that AOC does. So now there's an oversight

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Speaker 1: this is still going I just am curious. I know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask you to say that younger

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Speaker 1: members should be elevated over older members, because I know

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Speaker 1: that this is like a seismic sort of crisis, and

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Speaker 1: it's a crisis we're all having, right I'm here doing

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Speaker 1: a book tour about aging parents. So we're having a

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Speaker 1: conversation about how Democrats can communicate effectively. But I'd love

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Speaker 1: you to talk about that.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations on your book. Very powerful memoir and very important

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Speaker 3: contribution at this moment. You know, it's interesting because in

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Speaker 3: the House we've been in the midst of generational change

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Speaker 3: and transition. You know, Speaker Emerits or Pelosi, who I

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Speaker 3: think will go down in history as the most effective

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Speaker 3: speaker of all time in terms of what she was

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Speaker 3: able to consistently get done for the American people. Speak

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Speaker 3: of Pelosi, Stenny Hoyer, Jim Clyburn, who collectively were in

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Speaker 3: leadership for twenty years, did an incredible job. All in

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Speaker 3: two thousand and twenty two decided to step down and

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Speaker 3: pass the torch to another generation of House Democratic leaders.

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Speaker 3: So Pete Aguilar and Ted lou and jo Nagoose and

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Speaker 3: myself and a whole host of others, including Maxwell Frost,

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Speaker 3: most recently the youngest member of Congress, were able to

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Speaker 3: step into leadership roles, and that was a sign that

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Speaker 3: generational change had come to the House of Representatives. We

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Speaker 3: had an additional effort that was supported by the members

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Speaker 3: of the Caucus where Jerry Nadler, a long serving member

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Speaker 3: at the top of the Judiciary Committee, stepped aside so

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Speaker 3: that Jamie Raskin, an incredible lawyer, advocate, leader, constitutional scholar,

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Speaker 3: was able to step in for such a time as

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Speaker 3: this and use all of his skills to lead the

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Speaker 3: Judiciary Committee, perhaps the most important accountability committee in the Congress.

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Speaker 3: Angie Craig actually defeated two more senior members who are

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Speaker 3: north of seventy five, she's in her early fifties to

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Speaker 3: lead the AD Committee. And now, of course Angie has

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Speaker 3: made the decision to pursue a seat in the Senate

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Speaker 3: and the House. We think that's a demotion, but we

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Speaker 3: understand her decision. But she's still doing a great job

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Speaker 3: leading the AD Committee, pushing back against the snap cuts.

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Speaker 3: And you have members like Jasmine Crockett, who we were

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Speaker 3: able to get a seat on the Judiciary Committee this Congress,

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Speaker 3: as well as Castio Cortez, who we were able to

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Speaker 3: put on the Energy and Commerce Committee, where she's been

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Speaker 3: a champion and pushing back against the Medicaid cuts. And

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Speaker 3: so we're seeing generational change come to the House. But

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Speaker 3: we do have about two hundred and fifteen members, and

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Speaker 3: so it's a process and everyone assesses these things on

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Speaker 3: a case by case basis. No one would argue that

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Speaker 3: Maxine Waters still doesn't have the fire in the belly

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Speaker 3: to push back aggressively against the Trump administration, and so

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Speaker 3: she continues to lead the Financial Services Committee. But listen

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Speaker 3: to the House. We have elections every two years. I

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Speaker 3: think we as an institution are all about renewal, and

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Speaker 3: every two years there's that opportunity to have a fresh

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Speaker 3: infusion of newer members of Congress to contribute to the

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Speaker 3: work that we try to do as House Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Sure we are in this moment there is an opportunity

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Speaker 1: for Democrats to win back the House. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: going on. We have these Democratic National Committee. Whatever is

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Speaker 1: going on there, there's a recap, you know, there's vice chair,

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Speaker 1: there's chair. I mean, there's just a lot of conflict there.

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Speaker 1: I am not convinced that that's necessarily bad, because I

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Speaker 1: think when people are talking about it, it's actually maybe good,

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Speaker 1: especially because there's so little breaks through. I think one

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Speaker 1: of the lessons about Biden administration was that because I

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Speaker 1: remember talking to them and they just could not break

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Speaker 1: like they would do these things and nobody noticed. Do

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Speaker 1: you have ideas about how Democrats can break through and

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Speaker 1: sort of what they should be doing.

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Speaker 5: It's different, it's new.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, we'll definitely in a more is more environment,

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Speaker 3: and we have to meet the moment in terms of

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Speaker 3: the flooding of the zone that Donald Trump engages in

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Speaker 3: the unleashing of a parade of horribles. He's trying to

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Speaker 3: disorient the American people, tries to distract the American people

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Speaker 3: to hide the extreme things that they are trying to

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Speaker 3: do in terms of the assault on the economy, the

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Speaker 3: assault on healthcare, the assault on the rule of law,

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Speaker 3: the assault on the American way of life, the assault

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Speaker 3: on democracy itself. So we're in a more's more environment.

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Speaker 3: To me, that means more press conferences, more town hall meetings,

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Speaker 3: town hall meetings in Republican districts, townhall meetings in Democratic districts,

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Speaker 3: steering in policy meetings that we convene as we've been

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Speaker 3: doing on Capitol Hill, steering in policy meetings that we

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Speaker 3: and hearings that we take on the road and districts

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Speaker 3: all across the country, site visits, sit ins, speeches on

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Speaker 3: the House, flow speeches on the Senate, new media, traditional media,

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Speaker 3: and social media. It's all of the above, and I

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Speaker 3: think that over time we begin to break through. And

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Speaker 3: one example of that is the fact that Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: at the one hundred day mark, was the most unpopular

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Speaker 3: president in American history, and so the American people are

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Speaker 3: actually paying attention and they don't like what they see

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Speaker 3: in terms of how Democrats and others are communicating from

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Speaker 3: the standpoint of principled opposition. And as you mentioned, another

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Speaker 3: indication that we are having some success in breaking through,

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Speaker 3: we have to do more is that the GOP tax scam,

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Speaker 3: the disgusting abomination, the one big ugly bill, is also

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Speaker 3: very unpopular. Notwithstanding the fact that Donald Trump controls this

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Speaker 3: massive megaphone and the bully pulpit of the Oval Office,

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Speaker 3: but he hasn't been able to pull the wool over

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Speaker 3: the eyes of the American people with respect to this

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Speaker 3: legislation that They're trying to jam down the throats of

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Speaker 3: everyday Americans and we just have to keep it up,

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Speaker 3: sustain the entire desity, do more, and then, of course

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Speaker 3: make sure that we make our case as to why

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Speaker 3: to save the country. One of the most significant things

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Speaker 3: we can do is take back control of the House

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Speaker 3: of Representatives in November of next year.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Thank you, Leader Jeffries, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. Karen vass is the mayor of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: I'm Mayor Vass. Hi. How are you, I'm god, how

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Speaker 1: are yell?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing okay, thank you doing all right?

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Speaker 1: I'm actually in Los Angeles too. Oh. Tell me what

870
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Speaker 1: the city is like right now?

871
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, the overall city.

872
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Speaker 5: It's two ways.

873
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Speaker 3: Let me describe it.

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Speaker 6: You do have a sector of a city that is

875
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Speaker 6: absolutely terrified in fear that they don't know if they

876
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 6: should go to schooler work, because who knows when the

877
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 6: ice raids are going to hit their one place. So

878
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Speaker 6: it's a degree of uncertainty that is very, very strong

879
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Speaker 6: and very corrosive. The other side is is if the

880
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 6: city is functioning perfectly normally, the protests and the vandalism

881
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 6: has taken place over a few blocks in the downtown area,

882
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 6: and I'm not making light of that these few blocks.

883
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 6: It is not citywide civil unrest, and that is how

884
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Speaker 6: it's being portrayed. Some of the national pictures that I've

885
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 6: seen were actually pictures from nineteen ninety two and twenty

886
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 6: twenty that are all mixed in with what is happening to.

887
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Speaker 1: That right, there's a real disinformation problem. So I understand

888
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: that Trump is targeting Los Angeles, and we have a

889
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: similar thing going on in New York too, But I

890
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: just wondering what can and what are you doing to

891
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Speaker 1: sort of push back against him.

892
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Speaker 6: You know, I cannot interfere with what federal officials are doing.

893
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Speaker 6: We are trying to make sure that people in the

894
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Speaker 6: city feel safe by making sure that they are well

895
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Speaker 6: informed of what their rights are, what they can do,

896
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Speaker 6: what they shouldn't do, all of that, and then absolutely

897
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Speaker 6: content in you my advocacy on the federal level. At

898
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Speaker 6: some point, I am hoping that the administration will cease

899
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Speaker 6: that when they describe our city as being in chaos

900
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Speaker 6: and all of that, it is a misrepresentation of the city.

901
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Speaker 6: But to the extent that there is tension and turmoil,

902
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Speaker 6: it's tension and turmoil that was started on Friday with

903
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Speaker 6: the first rates.

904
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Speaker 1: So we've seen pictures of marines sleeping on the floor,

905
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Speaker 1: we've seen I mean, they've sort of not gamed out

906
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: what this looks like. So are the people who are

907
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: down there? Is there a place for them? Is it

908
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: set up for them? What's that like?

909
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 6: Right now we have one hundred soldiers and those hundred

910
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 6: soldiers are guarding the Federal building and that is it.

911
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 6: That is their sole mission. They're not involved in crown

912
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 6: control or anything like that. The thing is is that

913
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 6: the one hundred soldiers are not needed, and I have

914
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 6: no idea where the seven hundred marines are going to go.

915
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Speaker 6: And so to me, this is just, you know, very

916
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 6: troubling and contributing to the sense of fear and terror

917
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 6: that so many people feel. What is going on here?

918
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Speaker 6: Can I go to work? Can I go to school?

919
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 6: Can I find my father who I watch get taken away?

920
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 5: You know, those kind of things are really impacting the city.

921
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 6: And that is in a lot of different neighborhoods because

922
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 6: people never know when and where the raids will take place.

923
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, and the terror is really the point.

924
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: So you've had a tough time a bit. I think

925
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: that there's been a lot of targeting of you. The

926
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Speaker 1: city is now in a moment of crisis. You've been

927
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Speaker 1: through so much, right, You've been through these fires. You've

928
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Speaker 1: got a lot of people being quite I don't know,

929
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Speaker 1: just aggressive towards you. I wonder where you are at

930
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: this moment with this job. I mean, this is seems

931
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: like the worst job in the world.

932
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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, you know, I feel very honored and

933
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 6: the privileged to be here in this position. Yes, I mean,

934
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Speaker 6: I don't know a mayor around that doesn't come under

935
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Speaker 6: criticism and attack, and especially in this environment. It is

936
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Speaker 6: not surprising at all.

937
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Speaker 5: But I am a fighter.

938
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Speaker 6: I've been involved in community issues, city issues, state, federal,

939
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Speaker 6: international issues for years and years. And I'm a fighter

940
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 6: and I come from a city of fighters. So I

941
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Speaker 6: know that LA will be okay, LA will rebound, But

942
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Speaker 6: I really wish that the administration would not make our

943
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Speaker 6: lives more difficult. For example, when they bring in these

944
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Speaker 6: federal troops, Lord knows where they're going to be or

945
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Speaker 6: what they're going to do, then that's going to.

946
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Speaker 5: Cost one hundred and thirty million dollars.

947
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw those numbers. Is that federal money?

948
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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, no, it's federal money.

949
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Speaker 6: But my point is, is it in a year we're

950
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Speaker 6: going to have the World Cup. The President wants the

951
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Speaker 6: World Cup to be a real moment for our country.

952
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Speaker 6: How about giving us thirty million dollars so we can

953
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Speaker 6: prepare for the games.

954
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Where are you guys with rebuilding after the fires?

955
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Speaker 5: So, actually, that has been going well, and the irony

956
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 5: is is one of the reasons it has been going

957
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 5: well is because of the support from the administration. So

958
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Speaker 5: last week I was bragging about their support. This week,

959
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 5: I'm baffled and at their response to this. Last Thursday,

960
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 5: there were no problems in the city. The city was functioning.

961
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Speaker 6: Normally, and there was nothing happening in the city that

962
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 6: warrants the aggressive response on Friday. That aggressive response has

963
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 6: really been a provocation and it feels intentional, which is

964
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Speaker 6: why I feel like we are part of a grand experiment.

965
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Speaker 6: What happens when the federal government steps in and seeses power.

966
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Speaker 1: So what is your situation with ICE? I mean, how

967
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: much power do you have against ICE?

968
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Speaker 6: Well, I think you know that as a city official

969
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Speaker 6: that I do not have power over the federal government.

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Speaker 6: So I do not know when they're coming, where they're coming, why,

971
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Speaker 6: or any of that, and so what I have to

972
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Speaker 6: do is do my best to keep it to leap

973
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Speaker 6: safe and make sure that they are informed with their rights.

974
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Speaker 5: That is what I have to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like a pretty dark moment in American life.

976
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Speaker 1: We've had many of them. But I just wonder, are

977
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Speaker 1: you able to work with the governor in tandem, are

978
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: you able to sort of provide a kind of as

979
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Speaker 1: much as possible firewall against some of the federal stuff.

980
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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think we're both grappling with that.

981
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Speaker 3: I work very well with the governor.

982
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Speaker 6: He has been very, very supportive, and I certainly expect

983
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Speaker 6: for that to continue. But as you know, the President

984
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 6: took the power from the governor of the National Guard.

985
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Speaker 6: So I think that kind of says what the situation is.

986
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. Are there things that you guys can

987
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: do as a city to make you guys safer against buyers?

988
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 6: Yes, there's a number of things you know that we

989
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 6: can do, and we definitely are doing that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So interesting. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you're welcome.

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Speaker 6: No more.

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Speaker 1: Thicko Jesse Cannon Molly.

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Speaker 2: So, yesterday I started seeing a thing that I always

995
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: think is funny, which is that it's no secret that

996
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: there's some coordination of messages on both sides, but the

997
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: right wing always seems to be a little bit more vast,

998
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: Like Hillary said, a conspiracy. I thought it was very

999
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: funny when I saw some of my least favorite characters

1000
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: on that side, Matt Walsh, Charlie Kirk, and Jack Pisobiac

1001
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: all tweeting that it's time to ban third world immigration,

1002
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 2: legal or illegal. We've reached our limit. We have a

1003
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 2: huge cultural, educational, housing, financial, and essential services problem. And

1004
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: almost all of them used the exact same language. No

1005
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: creative input here, What are you thinking?

1006
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is really get to see exactly what

1007
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: it looks like. There's clearly like a group chat where

1008
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: everything is and here it is ban all third world

1009
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: called immigration illegal or legal period And they start each

1010
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: three Matt wash Charlie Kirk, and Jack Pasobiac all start

1011
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: with the same sentence and then they continue on. It's

1012
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: all the same, Every piece of it is the same.

1013
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: We need a net zero immigration moratorium with a ban

1014
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 1: on all third worlders. I don't know what a Third

1015
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: worlder is.

1016
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: I think it's a fan of the reggae band Third World.

1017
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Speaker 1: Yes, it's the only answer. So here we are hearty

1018
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Speaker 1: fuck all of them. That's it for this episode of

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1021
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