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She's expected 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: to stay at least today, and of course the Chinese 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: didn't like the fact that Nancy Pelosi made a visit 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: to that island. They consider it their territory. There was 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: some that think that China might react to the rather 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: explosive way. So far, it's mostly just been a show 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: of force. We'll talk about it coming up later on 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: in the hour. Going to give you an update now 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: on the La County District Attorney George Gascone. We had 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: gotten a heads up last week that the La County 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: Register of Voters had notified the La County Board of 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: Supervisors that it was possible that today at their regular 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: meeting of the Board of Supervisors, he might have the 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: results of the signature verification process for the recall effort 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: against George Gascone. He actually gave them a letter last 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: week saying it was possible that on Tuesday, August second, 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: at the regular meeting, he would come to them with 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: the results, and that the results were that the recall 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: qualified for the ballot. They had to get ready to 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: set a date for the recall election within thirty days, 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: but we were told it was pulled from the agenda. 39 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: It is not happening this week, so we'll find out 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: if it happens next week or the week after. Okay, 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: so let's talk now to a woman by the name 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: of Heather Scott, and we're going to talk to Heather 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: and Kathy. Katie, of course has been on the show 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: many times. She was a long time Deputy DA. Now 45 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: she works on behalf of victims because with this La 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: County DA, George Gascon, there's nobody representing victims. Heather Scott's father, 47 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: Fred Rose, was murdered back in nineteen ninety two. We 48 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: talked about this story yesterday with John Lewin in La 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: County Deputy DA. The headline is families feel tricked by 50 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: La County DA George Gascone over resentencing of death row inmates. 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: And the murderer of Heather's father is one of those 52 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: people we're talking about. His name is Scott Forrest Collins, 53 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: who killed her father in nineteen ninety two, and the 54 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: DA's office, through the use of these deputy das that 55 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: he brought over, they are actually public defenders are working 56 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: to re sentence death row inmates see what is known 57 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: as life without the possibility of parole, but there is 58 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: when you get LWOP and the way the California system 59 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: is set up always the possibility of parole, even if 60 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: it's elder parole. So let's bring on Heather and Kathy 61 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: Katie to talk about the story a bit more. Welcome 62 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: to the show, both of you. Thank you, thank you 63 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: so much, thank you for covering this for us. Yes, so, Heather, 64 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: talk about your dad. I know you were a youngster 65 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: at the time, but this must have been quite a 66 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: hardship for the family. It was in so many ways. 67 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: I mean, the initial trauma, it was just horrific. You know, 68 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: you really can't even even in my victim's impact statements, 69 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: I really haven't been able to put into words how 70 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: horrifying the murder itself was. And Um, and then honestly, 71 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: this last this latest trauma has just really brought up 72 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: so many raw emotions for us. Um, he was a 73 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: precious man. He was a father of three children and 74 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: a loving husband. And then you know, all of this 75 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: left my mom to raise us by herself, and she's 76 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: done a wonderful job. Um, but she has also been 77 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: completely traumatized by by this latest absurd move to resentence 78 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: Scott Collins. Yeah, now, when you're when you're this man 79 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: did get the death penalty for killing your father, right, 80 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: he did, and now the move is being made by 81 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: the La County DA to resentence this man to the 82 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: life without the possibility of parole. How did you come 83 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: to learn of this, Well, my mom received a voicemail 84 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: from someone in the DA's office. And the voicemail we 85 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: were very confused by because it promised that nothing would change, 86 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: that we should just trust the District Attorney's office, that 87 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: they were just simply going to resentence Scott Collins, and 88 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: the promise was specifically made on this recording that he 89 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: would never get out of prison. So Mom called, and 90 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: she was upset because I think initially the voicemail just 91 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: sounded so informal to hers that she was very confused 92 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: by what was being said. And so I called Lane 93 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: Joseph's office and asked for some clarification, and it was 94 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: I just got bits and pieces of information. They refused 95 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: to tell me who had filed the motion to resentence him, 96 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: why this was being done. They just continued to promise 97 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: that he would never get out of prison and that 98 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: nothing would change. But in later conversations with Shaylon Joseph, 99 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: when I really pressed her, I said my concern As 100 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, of course, We've known since I've known since 101 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: I was twelve years old that he that Scott Collins 102 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: likely would not be executed, but we felt very safe 103 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: with this extra layer of protection that he was in 104 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: San Quentin, that he would never get out of prison. 105 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: And when I really pressed Shayla Joseph and asked her 106 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: for assurance or some type of promise that he wouldn't 107 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: be resentenced again in the future, she couldn't give that 108 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: to me. She wouldn't. She said, I can't promise you that. 109 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: And I said, you know, well, how long do we 110 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: have to write our opinions we are opposed to this? 111 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: And she said, oh, well, you've got a couple of 112 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: weeks to write to the judge before I file. And 113 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: she filed the next day without buying. Wow, and again, 114 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: Deputy Day And Joseph, who you're referring to, is another 115 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: one of these public defenders that George Gascone brought into 116 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: his office to handle this kind of dirty work. Let 117 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: me bring Kathy Katie in here. I mean, what are 118 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: the rules in terms of notifying the family. I'm surprised, Kathy, 119 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: the way this office operates of Gascone that they even 120 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: reached out to the family of Fred Rose to tell 121 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: them they were doing anything with resentencing. Well, right, and 122 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean, of course I'm glad that they did. And 123 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: thankfully Heather was able to get in touch with Steve 124 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Cooley and myself, who you know, we're both representing her 125 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: and her mom and the family in this case. But 126 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: I think the point to be made here is that 127 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: it would appear, certainly from this case that when miss 128 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: Joseph on behalf of Gascon reached out that the way 129 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: that she phrases everything is, oh, it's all okay, you 130 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: should go ahead and trust us. There's nothing really to 131 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: see here, and you know, and then what she does 132 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: is she will write in her emotions, which she has 133 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: in several other cases, that she's contacted the victim's family 134 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: and they have no objection. Well, it's possible that some 135 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: families may have no objection, but many families, if they 136 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: had things explained to them the way that they have 137 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: a right to have them explained in a meaningful way, 138 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: they might well have objections. And unfortunately this Joseph has 139 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: filed a similar motion in at least five other cases 140 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: that I'm aware of. And then there are other former 141 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: career public defenders who have been rehired to work for 142 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: the county. They were retired and then they're coming back 143 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: now to work as deputy das filing these similar resentencing 144 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: motions in other cases where the death penalty had in 145 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: the sentence, and what's going on in terms of the 146 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: District Attorney's attempts to have all of this done essentially 147 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: in secret, because when you look at their motion, they're 148 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: trying to do it based on a stipulation between themselves 149 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: and the defense and have it done in chambers, which 150 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: of course completely violates the Constitution and does not allow 151 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: the victim an opportunity to be heard, to be able 152 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: to say, I don't apprec I don't approve of this. 153 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: This is not okay to me. So I think, really 154 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: that is you know, what happened in Heather's dad's case 155 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: is a good example of what the District Attorney's office 156 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: is trying to do. So they're trying to use various 157 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: legal mechanisms that in my opinion, do not really apply 158 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: to try to resentence people, and they're essentially trying to 159 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: do it in secret. Now I'm gratified to know that 160 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: at least in many cases, it's not all the judges 161 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: are saying, no, we're not going to be doing this 162 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: in chambers based on a stipulation. We'll be doing it 163 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: in open court, which is where, of course everything should 164 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: be done when you're talking about a criminal case. So, 165 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm really grateful that Heather was able to 166 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: reach out to mister Cooley and myself and that we 167 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: were able to come in and at least give them 168 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: an opportunity to feel like their voices being heard, because 169 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: it would appear as though Chalon Joseph is trying to 170 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: take that right away from victims. And this killer is 171 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: fifty two years old. So what are the possibilities if 172 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: they are successful in resentencing him to life without the 173 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: possibility parole, what are the possibilities for him of actually 174 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: being parole? Do you know? Well, if he stays in 175 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: on a life without the possibility of parole, he should 176 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: not be able to get out. But unfortunately, the legislature, 177 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: as you know, has enacted some recent laws. But more importantly, 178 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: what Salan Joseph is not doing. She's going ahead and 179 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: affirmatively making this motion on her own on behalf of gascon. 180 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: But there are other legal claims that are still pending, 181 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: and she is not curn is that she'll go in 182 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: and try to have it resentenced to life without the 183 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: possibility of parole, and then when that's done, then she'll 184 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: go back and try to deal with these other claims 185 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: that the defense has made that have been out there 186 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: for years, that were previously being defended by prosecutors in 187 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: the office, that she may now come in and concede, 188 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: which would change the sentence again. And I think that's 189 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: really the main concern, is that what used to be 190 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: something where victims could have, you know, they could they 191 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: could feel comforted in knowing that justice has served and 192 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: that the conviction was over and that which, by the way, 193 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: the constitution guarantees them a right to have, you know, 194 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: confidence in. But based on what's going on in the 195 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: DASA office, based on his policies, which are really his politics, 196 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: he through Shalan Joseph and others, is trying to have 197 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: all of these sentences essentially overturned on their own motion 198 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: and not based on any the illegal statute. And I 199 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: would say that, you know, he really is hot. We're 200 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: losing you occasionally, Kathy, Heather, are you still there? I 201 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: am all right, Heather, I do have to go. I 202 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: appreciate talking to you and keep us posted on your 203 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: efforts to block this move. We will and I'm sure 204 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: that you will. Followed this story all these years and 205 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: for justice for your father. We hope this man remains 206 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: in prison for the rest of his natural life. Thank 207 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: you for coming on, Thank you for covering this for us. Okay, 208 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: that's that's Heather Scott. Her father, Fred Rose, was executed 209 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: for what appeared to be two hundred dollars in nineteen 210 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: ninety two in Lancaster. His murderer, somebody named Scott for us, 211 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: collins Is got the benefit of La County District Attorney 212 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: George Guest going on his side. He's trying to get 213 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: this man resentenced from the death sentence to life without 214 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: the possibility parole. You also heard Kathy Katie, an advocate 215 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: for victims. Kathy and many other attorneys have stepped dot 216 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: Cathy's in retirement to help the victims and their families 217 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: because the La County DA's office doesn't do that anymore. Basically, 218 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: everybody that works there is a public defender that works 219 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: for the criminals. John and Ken show here on KFI 220 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: Am six forty John is on vacation this week. Coming 221 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: up after five thirty, I'll talk to ABC News and 222 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: Washington d C for the latest on Nancy Pelosi's visit 223 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: to Taiwan. She did get into the country today, escorted 224 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: by some fighter jets. She arrived, she was greeted by 225 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: the Taiwanese leaders. It's a tricky situations since we don't 226 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: officially recognize Taiwan as its own independent nation. China considers 227 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: it part of their territory, and China has made some 228 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: not so veiled threats to not sit by when Nancy 229 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: Pelosi visits Taiwan. But had happened today and from my understanding, 230 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: she's still there. We'll get the latest from ABC News 231 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: after our news update coming up at five thirty. Now 232 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: that we're really no longer going to deal with COVID 233 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: nineteen because we're allowing people to just make their own 234 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: decisions on whatever precautions they want to make. Even LA 235 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: Unified gave up today. They're not going to mandate masks, vaccines, testing. 236 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: Everybody's finally decided to move on, and this particular round 237 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: of subvariants is beginning to subside. We moved to the 238 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: new obsession from the health field, and that is none 239 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: other than the monkey poks. The state of California has 240 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: declared an emergency. LA County has declared a local emergency. 241 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: There's emergencies all over the state. The County of La 242 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: and the County of San Francisco account for the large 243 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: majority of cases. Monkey park cases in LA County rose 244 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: to four hundred and twenty three yesterday. It's an eighty 245 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: percent jump from a week before. And that's always the 246 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: way that they react to news like this. I remember 247 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: there's always a lag. But when people get infected with something, 248 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: even like the monkey pox, to the time that it 249 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: shows up in the numbers, I'm sure that there are 250 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: some people now that have gotten a vaccine, although it's 251 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: hard to get The supply is critically low, which is 252 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: a complete failing by local and national emergency workers to 253 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: try to get more of this vaccine to people. The 254 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: monkey pox virus, in case you haven't heard this by now, 255 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: is disproportionately that's the word that's used affecting men who 256 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: have sex with men, as well as transgender and non 257 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: binary people. Although the caution is it is not a 258 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: sexually transmitted disease. It is contracted through skin to skin 259 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: contact or through fabrics that have touched the virus. In fact, 260 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: today the news came down that there is a child 261 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: in Long Beach who has been officially infected with monkeypox. Now, 262 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: the other thing about monkeypox you need to understand is 263 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: it's not likely to be fatal. Worldwide. There have been 264 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: a few people that have died, but it's not near 265 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: what COVID and other types of transmissible diseases have caused. 266 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: As far as casualties, that is unlikely to happen. But 267 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: it is indeed highly uncomfortable because of these lesions that 268 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: grow on your skin and then eventually they pop and 269 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: there's pus and they're painful and it's awful. So one 270 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: thing that's been happening, they got some attention. San Francisco, 271 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: of course, is one of the places that's been hit 272 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: by monkeypox cases. Again, I want to repeat this is 273 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: not like COVID. It's not spreading that way, it's not 274 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: likely to spread that way. But nevertheless, for the people 275 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: that have it, it's not a pleasant thing and they 276 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: deserve some help whatever can be done, and more vaccine 277 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: should be administered to the population. But up in San Francisco. 278 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: They have something called Up your Alley Leather and Fetish Fair, 279 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: and this particular type of festivities which goes on in 280 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: the community of San Francisco called SOMA is well you 281 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: can guess by the name. It's supposed to celebrate kink, 282 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: a day of kink demonstrations, dancing, and shopping. And some 283 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: people up there were disappointed that the organizers behind the 284 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: festival didn't really put out any warning about the dangers 285 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: of monkeypox because people that go probably will be gay, lesbian, transgender, 286 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: maybe non binary people. I don't know, but there is 287 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: a possibility that they'll meet up with some other people 288 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: and they could end up with monkeypox. In fact, one 289 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: San Francisco resident told the Chronicles name is David Harris. 290 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: He just had a ten day quarantine after what he 291 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: thought was monkeypox symptoms but turned out not to be. 292 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: But he says he doesn't understand the silence. It's the 293 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: elephant in the room. Why aren't people talking about this 294 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: warning people. I'm not going to go to this year's 295 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: festival because I think people need to understand that the 296 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 1: danger is probably higher in certain populations. It's kind of 297 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: the way AIDS started men who have sex with men 298 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: are more likely to continue to have sex with other men. 299 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: That's what kept AIDS pretty much in that population, and 300 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: it seems to be working the same way with the 301 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: monkey pox. But there's no excuse for them not getting 302 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: enough vaccine out there. There isn't really any treatment for this, 303 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: so that's about the only way that you can deal 304 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: with this. Frere announced that they're getting an additional nine 305 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: thousand doses of one of the vaccines so they can 306 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 1: expand eligibility and eventually do an online registration process. All right, 307 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: Coming up next, talk about one of the big international stories, 308 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: and that is the visit of the Speaker of the House, 309 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: California's own Nancy Pelosi to Taiwan. Russia. Has been Russia. 310 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: China has been warning for about a week that she 311 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: better not visit that island nation. But it's not a nation. 312 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: It belongs to us. We'll talk next to ABC News 313 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: about it on the John and Ken Show. The Big 314 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: International Story. Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, Democratic 315 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: Congress member from California eighty two years old, has arrived 316 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: in Taiwan today and the Chinese, after saying that they 317 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: weren't going to stand for it. Well, so far they're 318 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: not doing much except for a bunch of military exercises 319 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: like saber rattling stuff. We're going to talk to Jail Brian, 320 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: ABC News for KFI for more on the story. Jay, Hey, Ken, 321 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: how are you. I'm fine? How are you so? Has 322 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: this being received in Washington? It's good, That's good. That's 323 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: the million dollar question. Is the biggest question right now 324 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: is how Beijing chooses to respond. As you just alluded to, 325 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: there are planned military exercises now in the waters around Taiwan. 326 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: These are live fire military exercises, but so far that's 327 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: the extent to which we've seen China go to counter 328 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: this trip. We've seen some pretty sharp rhetoric from Beijing. 329 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: You've seen some of the statements out there. Those who 330 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: will play play with fire will perish by it. That 331 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: was from Xijing Ping to President Biden. And then we 332 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: saw Chinese officials calling this a furious violation of what's 333 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: called the One China Policy, which is China's claimed to 334 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: Taiwan that the US hasn't officially dispute. But other than that, 335 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: we are not certain as to where Beijing goes from 336 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 1: here and what the White House is saying, is that 337 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: Beijing's response to this diplomatic visit from the Speaker is 338 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: up to Beijing, meaning that the Speaker's there, she's wheels down, 339 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: she's touched down, she's spending the night in Taipei, Taiwan's capital, 340 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: and where we go from here, diplomatically, the White House 341 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: says is up to Beijing. Now, explain to our listeners 342 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: what really is the relationship between the United States and 343 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: the government of Taiwan. I guess it was an agreement 344 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: from nineteen seventy nine that was reached over this exactly right, 345 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: And so officially the United States government doesn't dispute China's 346 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: claim that Taiwan is a part of China. Taiwan as 347 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: an island off the coast of China, obviously, and the 348 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: Chinese government has laid claim to it. They do not 349 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: say it's a sovereign state to say it's a part 350 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: of China. And officially, the United States government's diplomatic position 351 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: has always been that they don't dispute that claim. That's 352 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: the official position. Now, the unofficial position of the United 353 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: States government has a very close relationship with Taiwan, primarily 354 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: because it is a democratic government in the shadow of 355 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: an autocratic government from China. We sell weapons to Taiwan, 356 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: we have diplomatic relationships with Taiwan, etc. Etc. All while 357 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: not officially disputing China's claim that it is a part 358 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: of China. Now, apparently there's about twenty some odd million 359 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: people that live in Taiwan, the island of Taiwan, as 360 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned, did they have anything of a military themselves. 361 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: Thaiwan as a military and obviously is not the size 362 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: of China's military. It does conduct military exercises, obviously not 363 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: the scale to which China's does. But the question now 364 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: is going forward diplomatically, how does China choose to act 365 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: after the Speaker's trip and does that escalate militarily? Obviously 366 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: live fire exercises are some degree of an escalation because 367 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: you're conducting military drills near by Taiwan, and therefore that 368 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: is a concern. But beyond that, what does Beijing do. 369 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: There was some talk earlier in the year that because 370 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: of Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine that Russia, some foreign 371 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: policy experts, has said, views Ukraine similarly to how Xijing 372 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: Ping views Taiwan, and does that involden Xijing Ping. All 373 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: of that was obviously talk, but again Beijing chooses to 374 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: go forward is up to Xijing Ping and the Chinese government. Now, 375 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: she arrived on an air force plane, and she did 376 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: have some kind of a military escort, because China had 377 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: said things like if she does have military planes escorting 378 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: her into Taiwan, that's okay for us to possibly shoot 379 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: them down. Obviously that didn't happen, but that was the 380 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: threat apparently, and that was the bluster exactly right from 381 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: the Chinese government. Now, the White House has said that 382 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: the Speaker has every right to travel with the military 383 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: plane because when speakers of the House and congressional delegations 384 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: for that matter that don't include the Speaker travel abroad, 385 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: they use military equipment. Military planes often have some you 386 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: paired down version of a military escort, nothing like you know, 387 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: the president or other diplomatic leaders when they travel abroad. 388 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: But China did make that threat. In fact, there was 389 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: some early reporting that they China had claimed that it 390 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: scrambled jets says the Speaker's plane approached Taiwanese officials have 391 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: disputed that claim. But one thing's for certain is that 392 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: the Chinese government has that minimum decided it's going to 393 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: double down on this rhetoric condemning the trip. They posted 394 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: a big post on Chinese social media that said, you know, 395 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: there is but only one China, etc. Etc. So that's 396 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: how the Chinese is at least planning to go forward 397 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: in the next few hours. Apparently we do have some 398 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: sort of US military ships somewhere in that region of 399 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: the world. Is that true? Yes, that's true. There have 400 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: been at least two, if I recall correctly, US ships 401 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: that have been moved into that region. Whether or not 402 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: that's a response to the live fire exercises the speakers 403 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: visit or just moved on their own is somewhat up 404 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: in the air. But again, it's those live fire exercises 405 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: that will take place after the speaker leaves. That is 406 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: the next chapter of this story that's going to draw 407 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: everyone's attention, and then how China decides to if that's 408 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: the capstone, if that's the last thing that they do, 409 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: or if that's just one reaction In many did people 410 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: in Taiwan turn out to greet her or was it 411 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: just officials. There was a number of people in Taiwan 412 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: that turned out to greet her. In fact, if some 413 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: of the footage that you see are people celebrating the 414 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: speaker's trip, there was a number of taiwan As people 415 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: in the streets welcoming the speaker. There was even some 416 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: footage of people who were there opposing the speaker's trip 417 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: and saying, don't come to Taiwan. We also saw a 418 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: pretty significant reaction on Chinese social media of people posting 419 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: that they opposed the speaker's trip. This is obviously social 420 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: media that's used by people on mainland China, so there 421 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: was a variety of reaction back here at home. Interestingly enough, 422 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: there was significant positive reaction from Republicans on Capitol Hill, 423 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, who said he supported 424 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: the speaker's decision to go to Taiwan. He supported the 425 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: message that it's sent to the Taiwanese government, and he 426 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: said that the Chinese government cannot tell members of Congress 427 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: where they can go and where they can't go. Yeah, 428 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: and apparently though the Biden people are saying very little, 429 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: they seem to want to be neutral on this visit. Well, 430 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: we've seen now from the White House after the Speaker 431 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: neared Taiwan, and landed that it's you know, the White 432 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: House doesn't oppose the Speaker's trip, and in fact, they've 433 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: been saying that for the last few days that it's 434 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: not up to the administration to tell the Speaker where 435 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: to go and where she can't go, because she's a 436 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: coequal branch of government. Was obviously some diplomatic concern that 437 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: going to China at this point would perhaps imperil some 438 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: diplomatic efforts that the administration was having with the Chinese government, 439 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: including a call that the administration wanted to set up 440 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: between Chinese President Xijing Ping and President or Chinese leader 441 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: Jijing Ping and President Joe Biden last week. That call 442 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: did take place, however, and the administration has continued to 443 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: say subsequent to that meeting or that call between the 444 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: two leaders that it's up to the Speaker as to 445 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 1: where she wants to go, and they can't tell her 446 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: not to go anywhere she wants to. Now, part of 447 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: me said, what's the big deal. Apparently there's been other 448 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: congressional delegations that have gone to Taiwan. I guess she's 449 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: just the highest ranking in a number of years. Well, 450 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: she's the highest ranking in about twenty five years, and 451 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: the last Speaker of the House to go was new 452 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: Gingrich back when he was Speaker, and show decades have 453 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: passed obviously since that trip. Pelosi now is the highest 454 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: ranking official to go since that trip. But yeah, there 455 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: have been other congressional delegations that have gone. There have 456 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: been other Speakers of the House, obviously Gingrich, as we said, 457 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: that have gone to Taiwan. But this is somewhat of 458 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: a different Taiwanese government, but is certainly a much different 459 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: Beijing government than when Gingrich went in the nineties. And 460 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: so the question really focuses on Shijing Ping and how 461 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: he chooses to respond and how he views Taiwan as 462 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: it relates to China, not just in the next few 463 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: days responding to Pelosi's trip, but in the next few 464 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: years and what actions he may or may not take 465 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: against Taiwan in that time. Yeah, I mean, the big 466 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: thing here is the parallels to Russian Ukraine. And everyone 467 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: said back in February when Russian Ukraine, all China's watching 468 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: this because they may move on Taiwan. So it's interesting 469 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: that she decided to make this trip just a few 470 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: months after that. There's no official business she's going to conduct. 471 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: This is really just ceremonial to say hello, well hers, yes, 472 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: and her thought process has been this trip underscores the 473 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: United States commitment to the fact that Taiwan is a 474 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: democratic government in that region. And she said quote in 475 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: the Washington Post, actually right as she touched down, she 476 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: released this off ed and said, we cannot stand by 477 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: as the Chinese comp Is Party proceeds to threaten Taiwan 478 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: and democracy itself. And so that really is the sentence 479 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: that sums up the entire trip. It's meant to reaffirm 480 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: to Taiwanese officials that the United States government, particularly the 481 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: United States Congress. These Pelois a member of Congress, obviously 482 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: has their back. All Right, Jay, thank you very much 483 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: for that report. I appreciate it. Thank you. Ken. All right, 484 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: that's Day O'Brien, ABC News for KFI covering the Nancy 485 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: Pelosi trip. She did arrive in Taiwan. That news came 486 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: out yesterday. She was going to go. It wasn't a secret. 487 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: Some thought that she might try to get in there 488 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: without any kind of fanfare announcement, but apparently she did 489 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: land in Taiwan earlier our time today. I think she's 490 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: going to stay a day or so. And basically all 491 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: the Chinese have done so far as run military exercises. 492 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: They've got military tanks across the way. Taiwan's an island 493 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: off at China, so they're on the beaches of the 494 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: other side acting tough. There were some pro Chinese supporters 495 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: who showed up in Taiwan with signs. My favorite was 496 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: go home, Torrible Maker. Well, they wanted to write the 497 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: sign in English so English media would pick up on 498 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: it because they were telling Pelosi to go home, but 499 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: they spelled it torrible go home, torrible Maker. The other 500 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: one was good, though, was American, which go home, calling 501 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: Pelosi an American? Which all right. I got more coming 502 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: up here on the John and Ken Show on KFI. 503 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: By the way, the update in Pelosi. She's in a 504 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: heavily guarded hotel in Taiwan. Apparently Taiwan has sent a 505 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: lot of military and police there to make sure that 506 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: she's safe overnight. With her stay in Taiwan. Another one 507 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: has left the building. Geico, the big insurance company, the 508 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: Geico Gecko. They're no longer offering in person locations in 509 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: California for you to go and purchase car and homeowners insurance. 510 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: That's about a hundred people that are laid off. There's 511 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: a company, it's actually based in Maryland, but they literally 512 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: closed down all their offices the state. They had locations 513 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: in Santa Monica, Hawthorne, Burbank, and Torrance. They are now 514 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: permanently closed. I think you could still buy Geico insurance, 515 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: you just can't go into one of their offices in 516 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: California because the lights are out. Then there's nobody home. 517 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: Big story today on the John and Ken Show, which 518 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: we're expecting to be able to talk to the man 519 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: at the center of it tomorrow, involves a man by 520 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: the name of Craig Coope. He's eighty years old. He's 521 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: the Norco Market and liquor store owner and he was 522 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: behind the counter early Sunday morning when he looked at 523 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: his surveillance cameras and he noticed something that didn't look good. 524 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: A car pulled up, guys with masks, dark clothing, weapons. 525 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: He knew right away this isn't going to be good. 526 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: He did talk to The New York Post this afternoon. 527 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: He basically said they didn't do their homework because Norko 528 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: is a place that sort of has a Western style 529 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: to it. A lot of people own horses, and a 530 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: lot of people own guns, and Craig is one of them. 531 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: If you haven't seen the video, I've seen it like 532 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: a hundred times. The guy comes into There was four robbers, 533 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: but only one enters the store with his weapon up 534 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: and it sounds like he says something to effect to 535 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: put your hands up. But Craig is behind the counter 536 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: a little bit shielded. There are some distance apart across 537 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: the store, and Craig opens fire with a shotgun and 538 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: he got the guy apparently on the shoulder. You have 539 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: that seventeen seconds. Yeah, he shot my arm off. He says. 540 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: I saw them getting out of the car and masks 541 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: and with guns, so I figured this was going to happen. 542 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: I just knew they were armed and mad and they 543 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: were coming in, so I got ready for him. Surveillance 544 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: footage from side the store shows him firing that shotgun 545 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: just seconds after the gunmen you heard him say hands up, 546 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: came into the store. He was screaming that I shot 547 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: his arm off. That's what he said. That guy's apparently 548 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: in critical condition, recovering at a local hospital. Craig of 549 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: course did suffer a heart attack. He's recovering at his 550 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: home and we spoke to the New York Post. He 551 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: wants to keep working at the store, but he says 552 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: you might have to cut back on his hours. That 553 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the attempted robbery. He just 554 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: says it was an isolated incidence. I'll still be around 555 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: one way or another. He purchased a store in nineteen 556 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: seventy six, ran it for nineteen years before selling it. 557 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: Then he bought it back about seven years ago. He 558 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't say whether this is the first time the store 559 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: has been targeted by criminals again. The word right now 560 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: from Riverside County Sheriff's Department is no charges, although they 561 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: were still investigating the incident. Cope said about Norco, it's 562 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: not a high crime area and it's not a good 563 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: place for robbers to come. A lot of people here 564 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: are conservative, they're probably armed. As I mentioned before, these 565 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: guys didn't do their homework, so they have nabbed the 566 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: four suspects. Three are already being held on five hundred 567 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: thousand dollars bond. The fourth, of course, as the guy 568 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: in critical condition that you hear screaming and that bit 569 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: of audio there that he shot off my arm. I 570 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: don't know what that actually happened, but we'll find out. 571 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: He says he grew up in Illinois, he hunted as 572 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: a kid. It's not going to be on my mind 573 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: or keep me from doing anything. It's not going to 574 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: change how I operate. I'm already alert. I pay attention 575 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: to my surroundings. We had learned earlier in the show 576 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: that he had just installed that elaborate surveillance system some 577 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: months ago when the Sheriff's department people came in and said, look, 578 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: convenience store robberies are happening right now all over the place. 579 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: Maybe you just want to prepare yourself. Clearly, Craig Kope 580 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: was prepared. All right, it's time for Conway Ding Dong, 581 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: Ding Dong. Matt money Smith is coming on and talk 582 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: about the live golf and the Saudi Arabia money that's 583 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: behind it. That's interesting, right, David Vasse on the Soto 584 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: trade went from the Nationals to the Padres's All Sports, 585 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: four hours of Sports. I'm auditioning for a five seventy 586 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: am I'm trying to get a weekend gig over it. 587 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: And you need help because if it's not horse racing, 588 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: you don't know it. That's right. And then we got 589 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: another topic, Magic Johnson or Michael Jordan. Call us with 590 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: your favorite who's better? Magic, Kobe Bryant, Michael't forget the 591 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: word the goat? Yeah, the goat? Who's the goat this year? 592 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: Come on? Call us here? One eight hundred and five 593 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: to one five three four. Um La City Council has 594 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: passed an ordinance mandating that homeless camps must be within 595 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: five hundred feet of school or daycare center, must speak 596 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: within five hundred feet. And it did sound weird. That 597 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: does sound reversed. That's quite inordinate, written that down improperly. 598 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe there's a new smart technology where 599 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: glasses can be warmed so deaf people can see in 600 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: real time the captions when talking to others. Wow, And 601 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: I think that's it's gonna be good for international travel too. 602 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: You can put on glasses, you go to Italy and 603 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: then when somebody talks to you in Italian, it'll it'll 604 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: the subtitles and your glasses will be in English. It's fantastic. 605 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: They can breakthrough. You never have to learn another language 606 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: at all. And then the Geico Gecko. There's brand new 607 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: commercial with him walking out of his office with all 608 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: his belongings in a little matchbox and uh and and 609 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: and walking out of an office depressed out of his mind, 610 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: California office. Yeah, they're all gun. You can't get a 611 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: hundred people laid off. That's horrible, right, The Geico Gecko 612 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: is hit the road. Yeah, they could have saved those 613 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: jobs maybe if they just you know, I don't know, 614 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's weird, it's weird. I like the 615 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: Geico insurance so we have Are you amazed by all 616 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: the insurance company as it run? It's just yeah, you 617 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: all over TV night and day, every channel. Right, But 618 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: they say that ninety nine percent of people have seen 619 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: Geico commercials. That's a lot, that is. I read a 620 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: story they were first like forty years ago to see 621 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: with the mascot too. Oh the get good and apparently 622 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: that really stucked in people's brains. So yeah, I like 623 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: that little gecko guy. He's out sailing in a a little boat, 624 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: right yeah. And then an accent, Yeah that's right, yes, yes, yeah, 625 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: he has an accent. Right, I forgot about that. And 626 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: then I starting tomorrow California farm workers are marching three 627 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five miles for union voting rights. 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