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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, nine, episode

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Speaker 1: four of at Least the production of You Guessed at

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it's Thursday, auguste.

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Speaker 1: That is courtesy of Paul Garaventa and it is to

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Speaker 1: the tune of Dirty Das by a CDC. Kind Of

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Speaker 1: started in the middle there, didn't really know where I

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Speaker 1: was in the chorus for most of that, but I

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Speaker 1: am thrilled to be joined by my co host, Mr

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Speaker 1: Miles Grad. I'm a podcasting Looking at the site guys

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Speaker 1: stories that know how to vibe on Twitter and on Google.

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Speaker 1: Looking at the maga hats takes me to my limits.

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Speaker 1: Y'all we a proof fiser. I promise that you will

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Speaker 1: want a vaccine if your hornay, let's mountain do it

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Speaker 1: talking that site, guys. Okay, shout out to Mr bobble

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Speaker 1: for that wonderful genuine wine and genuinine. Ok. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they have a tap in my room or what,

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Speaker 1: because they just repeated a piece of pillow talk that

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Speaker 1: I use all the time, because let's mount't do it. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's mount if your horny, let's mountain do it. Let's

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Speaker 1: mountain do the do it? You know, horrible. I would

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Speaker 1: no longer be married if I ever even attempted. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you would have ever got to marriage if

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Speaker 1: you're on that. Hey, we think are you going? You going? Okay, spright,

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Speaker 1: what do you? What are you into? All right? Just

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Speaker 1: give me a Mexican pizza and uh just stop talk.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to everyone who came out last night. We're actually

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Speaker 1: recording this before the show, but I just want to

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Speaker 1: issue a blanket apology for you know, we didn't know

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Speaker 1: it was going to go off the rails like that.

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Speaker 1: Uh it was. We did not know that that material

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Speaker 1: was flammable. I thought I was going to be able

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Speaker 1: to uh like hold it more than I was. So

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Speaker 1: definitely embarrassing but highly entertaining. You can see what went

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Speaker 1: down again. I don't know what went down, but I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming that it'll be complete chaos because it is Mr

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Speaker 1: cris crofton. It is there, there's ward robe, there's a there,

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Speaker 1: there might be even stunts. I think there is a stunt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you can see it all go down with video

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Speaker 1: You can still watch the video. Want the mand and

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Speaker 1: like we are. I just want to say, like, if

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Speaker 1: you like Method acting, wait to see Method podcasting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it's it's wild. Yeah, well Miles. We are thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined by the brilliant anti racist educator, activist, writer,

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Speaker 1: and creator of the acclaimed podcast White Homework. If you're

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Speaker 1: and honored to be joined by a fan favorite on

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Speaker 1: US favorite, Tory Williams. Doug Webbing, thank you, excited to

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Speaker 1: see you again and you the Shovin Verdict. Yeah, actually

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Speaker 1: I was in Minneapolis. Yeah, I feel like yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was like, wow, what timing it's over there back in

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Speaker 1: the Portland back in Portland. Yep, yep, trying to pretty

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Speaker 1: wild weekend, trying to hold it down with all these

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Speaker 1: it's been a very intense weeks. Yeah sure here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I mean I just, yeah, I love this town

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Speaker 1: even though these folks come in from the suburbs to

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Speaker 1: try to funk everything up. Right. Well, can you talking

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Speaker 1: a little bit about what happened for people have been

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Speaker 1: second apparently this is like an annual that's become like

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Speaker 1: an ani whole thing. Now, So the Proud Boys, we're

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Speaker 1: going to have this rally protest freedom of speech. We're

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Speaker 1: then the mayor is like, we're going to counter this

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Speaker 1: He was like, well, we're gonna do choose Love instead,

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Speaker 1: and so they're like put up all of these signs

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Speaker 1: fucking hilarious. Um, and then like smoke bombing themselves, which

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Speaker 1: Like this is not complicated. But yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: insecurity right now, I feel among white men who find

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Speaker 1: just like they're really in their fields. They don't know

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Speaker 1: how to process, you know, the whole toxic masculinity. Like

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Speaker 1: you that that bullshit. Yeah so anyway, um, we are

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Speaker 1: it's really been a I think unexpected for a lot

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Speaker 1: mean they're there. There have been protests here forever. That's

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Speaker 1: just what we do. Uh So it wasn't like this

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Speaker 1: long term trend. We're gonna talk about Trump's border wall

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Speaker 1: I've been trying to explain dual power to my friends,

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Speaker 1: What are we doing? Now? What's the plan here? So

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Speaker 1: And the cyclemo No? So So the idea is, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was like, fucking we gotta know. And I think, look,

425
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Speaker 1: that's us, us discovering. It's the fucking around and finding

426
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Speaker 1: out that makes us human. I did growing up expect

427
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,719
Speaker 1: like doing what you just described would have just like

428
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 1: turned into like a pink mist and I wouldn't have

429
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: had a hand anymore. Like I just definitely see. I

430
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: had to know because you know what I did. I

431
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: went in with a fist. As a kid, I was like, no,

432
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: I feel like my fingers are too weak. Yeah, jam

433
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: in there. I'm like, I gotta fucking destroy this thing.

434
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Speaker 1: And I did. I broke it and I cut my

435
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: busting my ship. It was everybody lost that day. There

436
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: was a kid at camp who could stop fans. I mean,

437
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: I guess everybody could do this, but like stopped little

438
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Speaker 1: like hand fans with his tongue and he would do that,

439
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: and like that blew my mind. I was never the

440
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: same after that. He's a senator now, right, Yeah, it's

441
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: the best. Alright, let's talk about kind of the main

442
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: mainstream media news story of the past two weeks has

443
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: been basically, look how bad Biden fucked this up? When

444
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: when it comes to Afghanistan, you know, it's being treated

445
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: this is the first big failure of his administration him,

446
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: which I haven't been paying attention apparently, but they really like,

447
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: are you know that it's a It's one of those

448
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: news stories where it's like they're reporting on it as

449
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: a failure than they're reporting on his slipping poll numbers.

450
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: Then they're reporting on people talking about his slipping pull

451
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: like it's like this is this is where we get

452
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: to prove our bona FIDE's as like both sides ares, yeah.

453
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: They The whole thing is, it's like the media just

454
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: has an inability to have a reckoning with anything. So

455
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: rather than going like, zoom out, let's talk about this

456
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: military occupation for twenty years, they're like, let's just talk

457
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 1: about the last part where we're seeing like the chaos

458
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: of it. And it's not often you're hearing someone actually

459
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Speaker 1: say like this. I mean, I think the only time

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00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 1: you hear it is a way to be like, well,

461
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: don't worry about Joe Biden, okay, because like this was

462
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: the Bush really started it, and like so let's let's

463
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: divorce the blame from Biden to Bush. Is like the

464
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Speaker 1: most you can see somebody's zoom out about like looking

465
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Speaker 1: at this thing holistically, because like what's happening right now

466
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan is terrifying. Right there's a human humanitarian crisis

467
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: taking place and it's not just at the Hamid Carsai Airport.

468
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Speaker 1: This is this is a huge, massive displacement event for people,

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Speaker 1: and NGOs already saying they're having trouble getting to people

470
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Speaker 1: and not sure what the Taliban will allow them, like

471
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Speaker 1: how they'll help if they can have access to supplies

472
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: things are like the prices of things, like inflation is

473
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: hitting in a really intense way. But again, the whole

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Speaker 1: coverage has mostly been about like, well, how many people

475
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Speaker 1: did we get out today? How many of you? Which?

476
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: And I get the and I get the the what

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00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: is owed to the people that unfortunately got caught up

478
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Speaker 1: in having to help the US military during the occupation

479
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: and not leaving them there to answer for you know,

480
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: them just merely trying to survive during that time. But

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00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: I feel like every headline should be about failed fucking

482
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: American military occupation and what this means. But this is

483
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: the frustrating part. As we understand, I think for decades,

484
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: you know, we know that the media is used to

485
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: not really report things. Clearly, it's just giving a spin

486
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: on things to avoid see our actual reckoning. And this

487
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: is like another moment by like C I A and

488
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: Pentagon sources that like this is you know that this

489
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: is just the only way that they're able to see

490
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: things is through you know, the They couldn't possibly just

491
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: take a step back and be like maybe the whole

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00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: system's fucked up because we're the stories on like how

493
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: the Pentagon saw this as a fucking never ending checkbook,

494
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, and how they were incentivized to fucking not

495
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: do sh it really because the main money kept coming in,

496
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, or the fact that the fucking you know,

497
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: while people are yes queening Nancy Pelosi for getting some

498
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: kind of you know, getting the moderate Democrats in line

499
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: for an infrastructure deal, that we're not talking about all

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00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: of the politicians who are currently in office, who are

501
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: making the decisions to stay there or avoid talking about leaving.

502
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: Where is that now, you know? And it's it's really

503
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: convenient that they do this because it keeps us from

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00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: having any kind of reckon We saw this over the

505
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: summer too, just with just with the America's white supremacy

506
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: and policing problem. It was just just talk about the chaos.

507
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: Just talk about the body counts, talk about the looting,

508
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: talk about the anger. Don't talk about the fucking root cause.

509
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: Don't talk about how this is a failure of the

510
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: United States government to provide people with a way to live,

511
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: or that it's an absolute failure to provide them with

512
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: opportunities for upward mobility. So survival crime isn't something people

513
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: resort to, but it can't be like that, And I

514
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: think That's what's really frustrating over and over is like

515
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: if you're and again, I feel like I'm precently acquire

516
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: anyone who has some level of awareness around these situations,

517
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: that it's just such a fucking disservice to people because

518
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: most people just open their their mouth agape watching CNN

519
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: or MSNBC or a whatever these news annals are, and

520
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: they're getting like such a skewed, fucking superficial version of

521
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: it without actually like being able to drive the country

522
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Speaker 1: in a direction that's actually forward. It's more like, damn,

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00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: that's fucked up, all right? Anyway, Yeah, we talked, We

524
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: talked at the beginning of this story about just the

525
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: unforgettable image of the plane taking off with people clinging

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Speaker 1: to the outside, and how you know my hope for

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00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: that was that you know that that image is not

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00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: going away, that like that would be sort of a

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00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: stake in the ground of like the US cannot proceed

530
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: like this ever again. But instead the way the media

531
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: is treating it is as a man but Biden's gonna

532
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: own this at the polls, and BID's gonna own this

533
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: at the ballot box. Was just how about all the

534
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: fucking people of Afghanistan, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: that image of those people holding onto the plane, that

536
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: is an image of failure, you know what I mean

537
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: more than anything. It's harrowing, of course, but you really

538
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: need to look at that as an American person. Goal

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00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: Holy sh it, things a fucking l from the beginning,

540
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: and when we weren't able to have the you know,

541
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: because obviously the military industrial complex isn't gonna suddenly be like, no,

542
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: we don't need to occupy these foreign lands and do

543
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: some light mineral extraction. We don't know, that's not going

544
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: to happen, but doesn't fit in right, doesn't deserative, it

545
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: doesn't ever ever, right, So it's like, yeah, we can't.

546
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: We can't frame it that way as journalists because you know,

547
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: the system also kind of works for us right now.

548
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: Where oh man, that's that's a goddamn shame. Like okay, yeah,

549
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: can we can we hold some people accountable? I can

550
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: you start asking some questions because like you're the ones

551
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: with with the mics and the cameras and stuff, like

552
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: you want you want to go trace these people down.

553
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: The thing is, the problem is America is so horrible

554
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: that I don't know if We've understood that there's a

555
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: thing where you're when you're objective about American news, foreign policy,

556
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: of history, the people say you hate the fucking country, right,

557
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: you know that's always the refrain, Oh you hate this place,

558
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of people say, no, actually,

559
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: I think this place can be better. That's why I'm

560
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: screaming about because because you know, what as fucked up

561
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: as it is that they adam bombed the country where

562
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: my mom came from, and she still somehow came here

563
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: to try and make it better for herself. I don't know.

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00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: So there's something there that pulls people, but you owe

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00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: it to fucking human beings to do it right. And

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00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: but and that's what's so you look at even the

567
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: ship when the last year right, or everything, You'll have

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00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: a Palestinian activist on you have a prison abolitionist on

569
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: MSNBC for like two fucking minutes and act like it

570
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: was a halftime magic show at that basketball game, you know,

571
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: a glimpse into something fucking fantastic and not real, and

572
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,479
Speaker 1: then immediately be like, all right, well we were inter

573
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: vegetables from someone who was actually thinking about what needs

574
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: to happen, and go back to round the clock shit

575
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: show that will prevent people from critically thinking about what

576
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: the actual problems that we have are. They treat the

577
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: military industrial complex like it's the meat and the vegetables

578
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: like that that is what what Well, this is the

579
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: realistic stuff. And obviously those people like are that's great

580
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: in theory, but none of that can actually happen because

581
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: all of our sources are miles You were pointing out that,

582
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, Al Jazeer's main story on their front page

583
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: is about how millions of Afghan children are in dire need.

584
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: And CNN they have an op ed from a guy

585
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: that works at RAND. Yeah, the Defense Development Yeah, the

586
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: people who gave us some thought up mutually assured destruction

587
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: as a nuclear deterrence. Those people have front page access

588
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: on CNN and they're spending it like actually, like this

589
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: isn't a story. This isn't a story at all about

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00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: America and retreat. Yeah, and that's that's everything. Like that

591
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: you were talking about the America's white supremacy policing problem,

592
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: and the police are the media. The mainstream media is

593
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: like one of the primary sources, uh, the when it

594
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: comes to anything overseas. The military are the media is

595
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: like primary source. And yeah, Like an interesting kind of

596
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: wrinkle of this is like people were talking during the

597
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: Trump administration about like how these Trump Cabinet members and

598
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: you know people members of the Trump administration we're getting

599
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: shouted out of like these incredibly fancy restaurants in Northern Virginia.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, what, Like I used to

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Speaker 1: live down there. That's not a part of the country

602
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: that's known for like how cuisine. And the reason people

603
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: were pointing out the reason it got so fancy all

604
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden is because military contractors have been able

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00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: to just pay themselves like millions and millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: because of Afghanistan. And they're all located in Northern Virginia.

607
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: So like that is what's happening. And they're all the

608
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: primary sources for you know, the corporate mainstream media, the

609
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: CNNs of the world. M it yeah, because again, it's

610
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: it's all about the media. Is not about journalism. It's

611
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: this way for Americans to rationalize that they don't live

612
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: in a fund up place. That's really what it is.

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00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: It'll it'll give you a glimpse of old It's something

614
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: something's popping off over here. Let's not get too into

615
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: the why because that'll freak you out. Yeah, I mean,

616
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: it's still it's the it's the narrative, right, Like we

617
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: have to have like this myth of Americanism. We have

618
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: to have that because otherwise it's like, oh, everything's gonna

619
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: fall apart and we're not gonna be in charge anymore.

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00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: I can't have that, okay over here, Like it's like,

621
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Speaker 1: let's pretend like that stuff isn't all you know, the

622
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: stock market you guys, um, it's like, yeah, it's all distraction.

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Speaker 1: I feel like for for real life, be like in

624
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Speaker 1: the position that I am in from my perspective, I

625
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: feel like it is all distraction from what is actually occurring,

626
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: like the next block over really instead of instead of

627
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: dealing with oh, yeah, like we we really mess this

628
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: up and we should take take responsibility for all the

629
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: things that we sucked up over there, you know, like

630
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: just a thought, but it's like, ah, man, this is

631
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: so sad and Biden screwed up, and who else can

632
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: we lay this on because you're damn sure can't be

633
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: us America well, and it definitely can't be like the

634
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: way that America operates generally is these like failed attempts

635
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: at like being powerful and then just actually destroying hundreds

636
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: of thousands of millions lives might Yeah, and then yeah,

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Speaker 1: every story you look at, even like stories about the

638
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: unhoused people, it's about what's this mayor doing? Mayor doing?

639
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: What's this city doing? Not what is our society doing?

640
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: What is our country doing? Where are we in a

641
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: position where people who have mental health issues quite literally

642
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: just left for dead on the street and they were

643
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: like freaky people on the street. No, man, have some

644
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: fucking empathy an understanding that other countries aren't like this. Yeah,

645
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: this is a uniquely bad country that we live in

646
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: in a lot of respects and like that. It's just

647
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: they can't take the hell like we can't admit now.

648
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: I mean like everybody, every place has its own fucked

649
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: up problems, but we we we have our superpowers ignoring

650
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: the funk out of them and then just keeping it

651
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: moving and then wondering when it's a total mess, what

652
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: went what went wrong? You're watching a slow motion car

653
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: crash for twenty years the funk are you talking about?

654
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: And they're like, whoa, what the funk? Huh h? So, yeah,

655
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: it's just it's just very frustrating. And you know, when

656
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: you look at really what the stakes are for human beings,

657
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: like in any number of these to sub you know,

658
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: these stories or whatever these events that are taking place,

659
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: you're just like, damn, we're not even giving the people

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00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: who are affected by a fair shout by actually accurately

661
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: describing what's happening. Yeah, so hopefully that well, I don't know,

662
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: we'll see, We'll see what happens there. But it's tough

663
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: when you have to again, you have to go to

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00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: the the news websites of other countries to figure out

665
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: a better idea of what your country is up to.

666
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: That's a fucking terrifying thing that's been true for many years,

667
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: but it only persists. There's a I think it was

668
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: a Wall Street Journal story about how Eric Prince is

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00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: charging six thousand, five hundred dollars for a seat on

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00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: a flight out of Suble. That that's just a single

671
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: like anecdote in the story, and then they just kind

672
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: of move past it to talk about how like Biden

673
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: is like rebuffing requests from other Western allies. It's like, no,

674
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: that is like, that's that's the core detail is that

675
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: we have somebody who gets away with bringing a like

676
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: Cala's disregard to like just monetizing human lives and deaths

677
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: in the Middle East, and he exercises power to this day,

678
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: like in a in a pretty profound way. That's that's

679
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: your story, not you're fucking like all the I don't know,

680
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: it's it seems like that should be a bigger deal. Yeah,

681
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: but you know, I think when you look at those stories,

682
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: it helps you even you start really seeing it for

683
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: what it is, you know, the fact that it is,

684
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, that's that's the part of American

685
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: society that well just it keeps humming along um and

686
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: we it's hard to bring attention to it because I

687
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, everybody's already so

688
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 1: fucking pressed and so many fucking different directions like oh great,

689
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: another corrupt fucking thing. I don't know, like I'm just

690
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: trying to make ends meet, right, So yeah, but that's

691
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: where are those stories, you know? Yeah, all right, let's

692
00:39:46,600 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be right back. And

693
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: we're back. So we wanted to update everyone on Trump's

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Speaker 1: border wall Texas. We as we talked about a couple

695
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: I think it was about a month ago. Texas is

696
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Speaker 1: continuing to pour money into expanding Trump's border wall using

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00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: state funds, even though it appears to be like completely

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00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: tied up in the same sort of just bullshit, you know,

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00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: money laundering that the first pass at the border wall

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Speaker 1: was famous for. And so meanwhile in Arizona, the wall

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00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: that was built is falling apart, and like not not

702
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: in the metaphor, it's literally falling apart. Portions of the

703
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: what was supposed to be the world's most amazingly impenetrable

704
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: great wall, the best wall you've ever seen, have been

705
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: torn apart by summer monsoon rains, which has something to

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Speaker 1: do with the fact that it was just completely rushed.

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Speaker 1: The courts allowed construction companies to bypass dozens of environmental laws.

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00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: The flooding and monsoon rains were already a huge issue

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00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: of concern, which is why the wall already required floodgates

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00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: which had to be left open for months every summer

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00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: during the monsoon season, which I don't know. So how's

712
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: that like this wall for anyway? But like you don't

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00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: even you're like, y'all can't even do basic wall ship Yeah,

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00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean again, it's a it's a monument to racism.

715
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: It's not a wall. Also, like to your point, like Afghanistan,

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00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: it's a money laundering up, you know, like like who's

717
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: built Like think about like they're spend on money for

718
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: who to get that contract because his damage are not

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00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: because because all these people know it's the fucking border.

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00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: Wall isn't the issue. So you just do that bluss,

721
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: somebody gets rich here, ramp up the Islamophobia. Now we

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00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: go to the Middle East. Now somebody's getting rich. It's

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00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: just yeah, so yeah, I'm glad to hear that they

724
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: even knew these problems. Like yeah, still completely fucked up. Yeah,

725
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: And it also highlights how bad Biden's plan has been

726
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: around the wall, because I think you know, he was like, oh,

727
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: it's just a political symbol, let's move on. And so

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00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: he basically campaigned on not building anymore wall, but he

729
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: also just like won't tear it down either, and so

730
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: wall construction has been on pause, which actually is a

731
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: big problem because it forces migrants to travel through more

732
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: dangerous terrain, which obviously doesn't stop people. As we've talked about,

733
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: it just ends up killing them. This past July, the

734
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: number of migrant deaths at the border skyrocketed to the

735
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: highest and nearly a decade because they've they built small

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00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: parts of the wall in places where people chose to

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00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: cross a lot of the time, and now they can't

738
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: cross there, and there was a reason they were crossing

739
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: there because the other places are deadly. And yeah, it's

740
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: just it's just kind of ignoring a very concrete problem

741
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: because of political like bullshitty political implications. It's wild to

742
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: be when I think about, like you said, like these

743
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: intense monsoon rains, like if that would force a Republican

744
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: to use climate change as a reason why their wall

745
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: to can now, like you know, because I'm like, we

746
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: couldn't have. I mean this climate change. These rains are

747
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: way more intense so that we could have. And that's

748
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: why the wall feeling like well, just climate change, yeah,

749
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: but I mean only as it relates to this very

750
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: specific part of the border wall. Like when your engineers

751
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: reject climate change, they're like, that's not a thing that

752
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: can happen, Like, you know, it's fine, the climate isn't

753
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: changing that much. It'll be okay, we don't have to

754
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: worry about it, right. And then also just like that

755
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: the people that so you can so you I guess

756
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: apparently in trust with building this wall, they don't give

757
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: a fun no, they didn't build it to fucking last.

758
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, all right, whatever, give us, give us

759
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, here here here, good good good good good. Yeah,

760
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: we gotta keep it open. Most of the time they'll

761
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: just say, you know, all right, I gotta go, I

762
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: gotta go buy a fucking mega Yatt. Briefly, Delta is

763
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: going with a vaccine encouragement approach rather than a vaccine mandate.

764
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: They will be making it unprofitable for people to remain

765
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: on vaccinated. They're they're basically saying that people who are

766
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: on their company insurance and remain on vaccinated will have

767
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: to pay two hundred extra dollars a month. And you know,

768
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: on the one hand, again they're just like kind of

769
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: putting a dollar figure on human life, and that seems

770
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: to be a weird, weird thing that resonates with Americans

771
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: for some reason. On the other hand, it does, you know,

772
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: it's better than nothing. I guess I would say it's

773
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: just weird because it's kind of like undercuts this like

774
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: fundamental belief that you should have your health care you know, like,

775
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: and that's kind of I and I, but I get

776
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: the logic of your you can't you can't make it

777
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: easy for people to take this choice that puts people

778
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: at risk. But then like to do that with like

779
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: adding more premiums and things like that feels like a

780
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: fucking weird run rate train that could leave. But yeah,

781
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: funk at this. I don't know what do they I

782
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's other ways to do things, but yeah,

783
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely like one of those things. I'm like,

784
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: it's like it's an effective rebuttal to them being like,

785
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: you can't force me to have it, And it's like, well, okay,

786
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: so you guys are into the market, Like from a

787
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: market perspective, you are at greater risk. We're going to

788
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: have to pay more to like for you guys health

789
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: care because of this belief. So therefore we're just we're

790
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: just following the market, which seems to be like what

791
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: y'all are into. On the other hand, it's like, what

792
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: why are we even going? You know, it assumes their

793
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: first argument that you can't mandate a vaccine is true,

794
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: which is just not a good look because that's that's incorrect.

795
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: Delta can do whatever the funk they want their prey

796
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: a company and they're so they're still essentially paying people

797
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: to endanger their customers lives and their other staff's lives.

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00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: It feels really classes to me too, because you know,

799
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: not everybody adulta is going to feel two hundred bucks, right, Like,

800
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: if you're a flight attendant, like, yeah, that's probably a

801
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: ton of your page, right, But you know, if you're

802
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: a philot who cares like that's not even gonna that

803
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: that that you're not going to notice two hundred dollars missing.

804
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: So I don't feel that doesn't feel like an effective

805
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: wildly underpaid but executives. But yeah, I mean if you

806
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, I can I can afford the two

807
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: hundred bucks a month. I'm just going to take a hit,

808
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, to make a political point, because that's at

809
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: this point, that's all that you know, people who are

810
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: rejecting vaccinations, at this point, they're just trying to make

811
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: a political point, and it is worth it for them

812
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: to spend money to continue to be able to make

813
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: that point. I don't understand the logic personally, but that

814
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: that's what's motivating them, is it's like this ideological thing

815
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: doesn't actually have anything to do with the science or anything, obviously,

816
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, it just feels really really classes to me

817
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: to be like blanket fee. Everybody, you know, everybody pays

818
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: the same amount, and if you're one of these Republican

819
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: mega donors within our company, and then hey, you can

820
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: shoulder that right, right, and then it's like, oh, well

821
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: that's cool, I'll just pay that sounds good. Let's go

822
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: all right, let's get into their Nirvana baby. I think

823
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: one of the most iconic images of of the past,

824
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: but I don't know forty years because everything has to

825
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: be like commercial these days. Like I feel like that

826
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: is that is like a culturally significant image, even though

827
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: it's like just an album cover that was sold by

828
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: a record company, right, and if you don't remember, it's

829
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: the never Mind album covers a baby in a pool

830
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: naked and there's a dollar bill and a fish hook

831
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: and it's going after it. Okay, bring a bell. Yeah,

832
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: I think we're on the same page that that baby

833
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: still a baby in my mind. Now that person is

834
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: now an adult and is suing the band for basically

835
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: child endanger man. I thought at first they were suing

836
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: him for for not giving him that dollar, but it

837
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: turns out there suing him for a little bit more

838
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: than that, and it kind of makes sense. Yeah, yeah,

839
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: well this is the thing. I just I just want

840
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 1: to go through what he's alleging here. Um. He claims

841
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: that he could not consent to his image being used

842
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: on the album way back in the day because you

843
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: were four months old, and he says his legal guardians

844
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: didn't consent to it either. That's okay, I didn't That's

845
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: what he's so he was kidnapped for the photo shoot

846
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: and put back in his crib. I don't know, that's

847
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: where you started, Like, so what are you saying here?

848
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: Was that a picture that your parents took and like

849
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: they actually that was just for our private collection and

850
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: then they re repurposed that, so I don't know. He

851
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: also says that he claims that the image is actually

852
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: child pornography. He claims the band made a promise to

853
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: cover his genitals with a sticker, but it was never

854
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: incorporated on the album cover. You know, I think most

855
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: people say that baby nude baby photos generally don't legally

856
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: rise to what they would consider pornography because of the

857
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: lack of like sexual implied sexual nature of like an

858
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: image to why like national geographic things aren't considered port

859
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: like if it's merely something that's being captured with nudity,

860
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: that's one thing. Pornography kind of the different, higher, higher

861
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: definition that has to meet. And so they go on

862
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: to say that his lawyers also twisting and say like

863
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: it's also kind of like him being a sex worker.

864
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: So he says, quote defendants intentionally commercially marketed Spencer's child

865
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: pornography and leverage the shocking nature of his image to

866
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: promote themselves and their music at his expense, meaning the

867
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: child defendants used child pornography depicting Spencer as an essential

868
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: element of a record promotion scheme co mainly utilizing the

869
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: music industry to get attention, where an album covers post

870
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: children in a sexually provocative manner to gain notoriety, drive sales,

871
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: and garner media attention and critical reviews. What like what

872
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: how I'm like trying to I'm trying to keep an

873
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: open mind here, you know what I mean, because like

874
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, like I get it. Yeah, maybe

875
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: you were a baby, Like yeah, it's kind of weird.

876
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: I was just I was like one of the most

877
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: famous naked babies of all time, and maybe people teased

878
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: me or whatever, although like who, like, wait, aren't you

879
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: the never mind baby? Who would who would know? That's

880
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: the thing about babies is it's like they all pretty

881
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: much looked the same at four months. You're not really

882
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: gonna be able to like pull your kid out of

883
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: a line up very easily. And like I'm trying to

884
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: not like be like some kind of Nirvana stand to

885
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: be like do touch the never mind? No? But I'm

886
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: like really trying to understand, like, is this is what

887
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: he's accusing them of? Is this going? Is this this

888
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: is where I don't know the law or the nuances

889
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: of what is or is not, you know, pornography or

890
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: things like that, but just based on my very terribly

891
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: superficial knowledge, I didn't think it was that controversial. But

892
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: it's like a political cartoon, Like sure, it feels like, yes,

893
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,959
Speaker 1: this is false. This is a false premise that they

894
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: were doing it with the intent of like setting up

895
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: child pornography. On the other hand, just give him some

896
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: money like that. I don't know. It's I'm like, what's

897
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: that deal look like? Because you know how lawsuits happened,

898
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: almost says, hey, man, let me come on, what the

899
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: funk man cut me a little check? Man, I was

900
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: a baby. You gave my parents a bunk deal. You

901
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: know they were sucked up on fucking acid at the time,

902
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: and they did it for forty bucks. Man, can like

903
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: help me out here? You're you, You're fucking Dave Grohl,

904
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: You're Chris Nova Shelick. You know you're the Kobane Estate.

905
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: Helped me out here with something, and they probably funk

906
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: out of here. Okay, we already signed a contract. It's

907
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: right there. See you later. So then you pivot to

908
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: something else, because at the end of the day, he

909
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: wants Kobain, the Kobaine Estate, Dave Grol and Nova Schlick

910
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: to cough up at least one fifty each, fifty thousand

911
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: dollars a thousand dollars each. That feels fair to me.

912
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: I feel like they should just do that, like a

913
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: reasonable amount, frankly, right. So that's what I'm curious. It's like,

914
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: what did they rebuff him first when he asked for

915
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: something and they said, well, then fine, let's I'll make

916
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: a lawsuit out of this and then I'll just make

917
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: out you fucking settled with me. Yeah, I feel like

918
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,479
Speaker 1: you're taking it too far though, because it's like there's

919
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: something very wrong with you if you see a four

920
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,959
Speaker 1: month old baby and think this is sexually explicit pornography,

921
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's creepy, Like why why is that

922
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: the first thing that you go to. I feel like

923
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: that's not the angle that maybe he should have taken,

924
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: because that again, like you're trying to make an image

925
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: of an infant into pornography in order to make your case.

926
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know about that art Hyam, but

927
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about that argument. That's

928
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: I think that's where maybe his lawyer is the one

929
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: who's like really being like, no, see, this is how

930
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: you do it, man. He tends yea, you know they

931
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: never mind baby. Yeah, I signed him as a client. Man,

932
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna go get We're gonna go after Nirvana now

933
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna say he was a sex worker at

934
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, especially because that album was so like

935
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: made them illogically immorally wealthy, like to a degree that

936
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: like I think they all admitted at the time, was

937
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: like this is this sort of fame, this sort of

938
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 1: wealth is absurd and like shouldn't exist, but I'm sure

939
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: and also less likely to admit that now, right. And

940
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: the album cover itself is like, you know, a commentary

941
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: on capitalism and being like, hey, here a little baby,

942
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: here's a get get hooked on the dollar. And rather

943
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: than something like that, like what they're saying, it's like,

944
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, they were trying to get people that

945
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: could be the most controversial thing. I feel like, I

946
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: don't know. Again, I was only a but a boy

947
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: at the time, so I wasn't in touch with all

948
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: of the news media commentary around this. But I I

949
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: thought a boy named Google the Google Dolls cover got

950
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: more heat than this ship did. When they're like it's

951
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: got it's this little boy has blood on his face. Um,

952
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: and it's like what But again, I I leave it

953
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: to the gen Xite gang people. What was the tone

954
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 1: where people like, oh my god, this baby No not really,

955
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: I I don't think so. And it like has such

956
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: a clear it really does contribute to the album though,

957
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: Like the the it really like nails the sort of

958
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: vibe of the album, and like this, you can tell

959
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: that it's like kind of intentionally stupid, but also like,

960
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, just that just the tone of the

961
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: album is a fit, which is why I think they

962
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: should just pay him what he's asking, because it's like

963
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: it really was like that image resonated with that album,

964
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: and the combination really resonated with everybody. I don't know

965
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: the meaning I got from it was just that like

966
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: they were doing a kind of a silly self mocking

967
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: like political cartoon, but at the same time, you know

968
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: they were anti capitalist. It's interesting. He then in sixteen,

969
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: he talked about how he got quote got a little

970
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: upset about his notoriety. He's a quote I just woke

971
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: up already being part of this huge project. It's pretty difficult.

972
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: You feel like you're famous for nothing. It's hard not

973
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: to get upset when you hear how much money was involved.

974
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: When I go to a baseball game and think about it, man,

975
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: everybody at this baseball game has probably seen my little

976
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: baby Penis, I feel like I got part of my

977
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: human rights revoked. That's a very specific though, buts this journey.

978
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why he said, I'm at this baseball game, like, huh,

979
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, I get it, you know, because you look

980
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: at now this this fucking all the whole unseeen that

981
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: ship's coming back around visually, graphically, you see it in

982
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: the fashion people are rocking this beep. I've seen this

983
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: shirt printed millions of times. So in that way, I

984
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: would be like, yo, I'm like the jump man of

985
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: the grunge scene. Yeah, and you're not gonna give me

986
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: my fucking cut. That's I think you have something to

987
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: go with their But that's why I don't. I don't

988
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: want to take whatever. You know, that's his experience. So

989
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: if that's how it feels, that's how I feels. I

990
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: feel like that's really common though, in in in imagery

991
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: of like African Americans historically that we're used to market things,

992
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: right like Anshemima, Uncle Ben situations where yeah, it was

993
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: like your image was just taken and you you know,

994
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: maybe got a couple of dollars for it, if you

995
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: were paid at all, and then yeah, it's like, hey,

996
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 1: we we still hundreds of millions of units of whatever

997
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: thing that's that this is, and sorry, he still don't

998
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: get any money for it because you know, it's it's

999
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: our It's like your images are so like from that perspective,

1000
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm not cool with not paying him

1001
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: more given what we now know over the last forty years.

1002
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, exactly, it's yeah, it's it is. It's iconic,

1003
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, it's totally reasonable for

1004
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: him to ask to be paid more. Yeah, that's where

1005
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: like the legal ease comes in. It's like, well, this

1006
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: agreement has been signed, so like the claim that they're

1007
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: making that it is in a long history of there

1008
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: are some severely fucked up classic rock albums that do

1009
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: use child pornography and like should be banned, and I

1010
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: think have been banned in a lot of cases. But

1011
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: this just feels like trying to graft onto that, Like

1012
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: the Naked Baby. It feels feels weird more than anything.

1013
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, if that if this young man or

1014
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: whatever this is like in the thirties, now this dude,

1015
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: this feels like he's owed more than Yeah, I have

1016
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: that conversation role for how like you know, how you

1017
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: know hi crunchy and hippie dippie and all love E

1018
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: dove you you seem to be like a check bro.

1019
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: I feel slightly differently about so. Vampire Weekend had a

1020
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: similar thing. They had pretty iconic album cover for Contra

1021
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: that was like this young woman looking very eaties and

1022
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: it was apparently a like they they bought it off

1023
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: of a photographer who claimed that he had taken the

1024
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: picture like of a model at like a behind the

1025
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: scenes like it was just a very obscure picture. But

1026
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: the photographer was like a scam artist, and they she

1027
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: sued the band for two million dollars. They settled with

1028
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: her and then like countersued the photographer essentially, and I

1029
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: think they're gonna win that because the photographer was like

1030
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: lying and to the point that like his lawyer fired

1031
00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: him and now he's representing himself. Oh great, that's what

1032
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: That's how you know you're in good shape. But that

1033
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: I also have a difficulty with, Like any band like

1034
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: Nirvana would be the last band that I'd be like, oh, well,

1035
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: they're rich, because like after that, like nobody everybody stopped

1036
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: making money in the music industry. I feel like, maybe

1037
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: not immediately after that, but for like they're of that

1038
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: generation of bands that was still getting like kind of

1039
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: absurdly wealthy. Like I don't think Vampire Weekend has two

1040
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: million dollars laying around. They might. I'm sure they licensed

1041
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: their ship enough I remember seeing in a bunch of

1042
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: But I mean that's the difference, right, because you have

1043
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: the musicians who make their ship. Now are the ones

1044
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: who get their stuff put in TV of film and commercials,

1045
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: or you do arenas that's kind of like the or

1046
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: you do the hyper indie model where you can cut

1047
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: out the labels so you're not cut up caught up

1048
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: in some three sixty deal and you actually do it

1049
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: independent and try and keep you know, the revenue coming

1050
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: back to you the artist. But yeah, I mean there's

1051
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: the people making money. But yeah, it's definitely become like

1052
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: like it's like the one percent of bands essentially do

1053
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: like nineties style revenue. Yeah, I remember that there was

1054
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: like a profile of that beingd Grizzly Bear, which was

1055
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: like a popular indie band. Like I hadn't seen them live,

1056
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: but I like new people who had gone to see

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Speaker 1: them live, and I had like one of their albums

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Speaker 1: on like one of the download services and somebody like profile.

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Speaker 1: It was back before the everything was streaming, and uh,

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Speaker 1: they somebody profiled them and they were like really struggling

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Speaker 1: to like make ends meet, like after at the time

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Speaker 1: they were like peak fame. They were like yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: like we live in two small like apartments there are

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01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 1: too small for our families, and like really are check

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Speaker 1: to check because of just like the way that the

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Speaker 1: music industry went, like they're stopped being as much money

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Speaker 1: when album sales stopped, but that that didn't come out

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Speaker 1: of the record company's pocket, that came out of the

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Speaker 1: artist kind of pocket. Yeah, they really kind of got

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Speaker 1: fucked in a lot of ways. So that's why that's

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Speaker 1: why I go and Hyperandi is a is a great route.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Chance. He hasn't really he dropped that

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Speaker 1: stinker and I haven't heard much from him since then,

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Speaker 1: just like features on Justin Bieber tracks. I'm not worried

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Speaker 1: about him financially, He's so great. I'm just wondering, like

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Speaker 1: is he gonna have a return to form. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it depends on you know, everyone's uh, everyone's on their

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Speaker 1: own path artistically. But I can only imagine when you

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Speaker 1: when you come from like money, Yeah, at a certain point,

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Speaker 1: like it almost like you took that box. You're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I did that. Mha, I love my wife. I should

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Speaker 1: sucked all right, Well, Tory, it has been such a

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Speaker 1: pleasure as always having you. Where can people find you

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Speaker 1: and follow you? Yeah, thank you so much. I always

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Speaker 1: loved chatting with y'all the best. I'm sometimes on the

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Speaker 1: internet in social social places, mainly Twitter and Instagram. So

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Speaker 1: my personal stuff is at Tory Glass and all the

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Speaker 1: White Homework stuff is just at White Homework. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: have podcast called White Homework and then an they're called

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Speaker 1: Go Home Bible. You're drunk, you want to check either

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Speaker 1: of those out? So yeah, that's that's usually where you

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Speaker 1: can find me on the internet. All right, what's the

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Speaker 1: wildest ship you discovered in the Bible that you did

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Speaker 1: not expect to be there in the course of this podcast? Okay,

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01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: so it's like my my favorite, my favorite wild bananas

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Speaker 1: story in the Bible is Moses, right, the guy with

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Speaker 1: like the Staff and the parting of the Red Sea.

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Speaker 1: He's on his way to Egypt with his wife and

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Speaker 1: God decides to meet them in the middle of the

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Speaker 1: road and starts fighting with Moses because the Bible says

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Speaker 1: God wants to kill him. So you just had like

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Speaker 1: this one eight like complete change of heart, is like,

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Speaker 1: actually I don't like you anymore, and so basically most

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Speaker 1: of his wife shows up and like the text says,

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01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: circumcises for Sun on the spot with a flint knife

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Speaker 1: and then apparently God is okay with this. She like

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Speaker 1: throws it at God and God's like okay, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm gonna leave now. Yeah, it's true. That

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Speaker 1: is true. I just yeah, no, I know, but like

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Speaker 1: that's that's my personal favorite story because like a black

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Speaker 1: a black woman and God get into a fight and

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Speaker 1: the black woman wins and care for that. Is there

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Speaker 1: a tweet or some of the work of social media

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Speaker 1: you've been enjoying, well, I mean obviously the tweet like

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Speaker 1: the CIA put all the milk rates in the hood.

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Speaker 1: It's my favorite right now, Like where do we all

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Speaker 1: get these milk Like they just they just magically appeared

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Speaker 1: in every single neighborhood, Like where did this come from?

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Speaker 1: That's it's that we would be the FBI would not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not fucking with it, and either shoot, but it's

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Speaker 1: always feels like it's like behind like a liquor store

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Speaker 1: or something like it, because that's where you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: the milk rates. Anyone who's borrowed the milk crate, typically

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Speaker 1: we'll find it near a grocery store, local bodega, liquor store.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a lot of milk rates. It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if I just wasn't noticing the milk crates before,

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Speaker 1: because now I'm starting to see them. Granted it was

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Speaker 1: on the set of our live show, but there were

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Speaker 1: a bunch of milk crates all over the place. I

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Speaker 1: was like, well, yeah, great, great thing for production. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, You'll see a lot of milk

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Speaker 1: crates for production. Where's the production version? Come on? Yeah, Miles,

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Speaker 1: where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray

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Speaker 1: and the other show for twenty Day Fiance with Sophia

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Speaker 1: Alexandra talking a ninety day with each other. And let's

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Speaker 1: see a couple of things that I like. The first

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Speaker 1: one is from at carly Ja Garber. She tweeted a

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Speaker 1: guy at my high school reunion asked me, didn't you

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Speaker 1: like create Broad City? And I said, yes, Like who

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Speaker 1: the fund is this? Yes? W yeah, fucking funny as

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Speaker 1: fun to me. And then ray Apolo at ray Apollo tweeted,

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Speaker 1: I just like this is as a creator. Your community

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01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: is a reflection of you, and I shout out was

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Speaker 1: like game because y'all are dope makes me feel good.

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Speaker 1: So yep, good good feels there. Yeah. Yeah, let's see

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Speaker 1: a couple of tweets I've been enjoying. Pizzerina Sparrow tweeted,

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Speaker 1: I just talked to everyone in the grocery store that

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Speaker 1: you're at. They all said you're acting super weird and

1150
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: they know that you're hot. I just talked to everyone.

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Speaker 1: I feel really insecure just listening to that. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: everyone's there. They can tell I'm not talking right, just like,

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Speaker 1: enter a conversation and laugh really laugh. Big Honker Caboos tweeted,

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Speaker 1: your honor, what's the move after this? Like? What's everyone

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Speaker 1: getting into? Excuse me, you're here for an appeal? Uh?

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Speaker 1: And then Daddy Longlegs tweeted pronouncing milk crates the same

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Speaker 1: way I would Socrates, which I always like a good pronunciation. Note, uh,

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Speaker 1: milk rates so crazy. Yeah, that's the other way to

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Speaker 1: go with. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. Oh, Brian,

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Speaker 1: you can find us on Twitter at daily ze Geist.

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Speaker 1: We're at the Daily Zegeist on Instagram. We have a

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Speaker 1: Facebook fam page, and a website daily zeygeist dot com,

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Speaker 1: where we post our episodes on our footnotes, where we

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Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about in

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Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think

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Speaker 1: you might enjoy. Miles, what song are we suggesting people

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Speaker 1: go check out? This is a track from deb Never

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Speaker 1: and jim Eat Stack. I'm not really I don't know

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Speaker 1: much about deb Never, but the track was real upbeat

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Speaker 1: and just kind of it's like this new era of

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Speaker 1: like hip hop e pop music that just kind of

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Speaker 1: feels I don't know, like I just like the way

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Speaker 1: music is evolving right now. There's a lot of like

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Speaker 1: genre lest genres that are just like so multi hyphen

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Speaker 1: it that I'm like, yeah, this is like everything I like,

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Speaker 1: but you somehows like the best parts have made it

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Speaker 1: one thing. So this is deb Never and Jimmy Stack

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Speaker 1: is called Sweet and Spice. There's so much good music

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Speaker 1: we can ever understand it when people are like music

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Speaker 1: to sucks. It's like, oh man, I cannot okay what

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Speaker 1: you can't be passive about this? Ship? Like if you

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Speaker 1: really funk with music like it's out there, it's just

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01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: gotta put a little energy in there and it will

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Speaker 1: rivule itself. Also, Jimmy Stacks is a like that feels

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Speaker 1: like something eat a Jimmy Stack or something like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's you know, he's also you know one of the

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Speaker 1: most famous great challenge people, Jimmy Stack. Oh really say yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: down those facts alright. The Daily zey Geys is a

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts from I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio, visit the I heart Radio app, Apple podcast,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is

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Speaker 1: going to do it for us this morning. We're back

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Speaker 1: this afternoon to tell you what's trending and hey, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to y'all. Man By