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Speaker 1: Hi, this is jacom Utah. Welcome to the Philly.

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Speaker 2: Show Tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury, todds Alecki. It's the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, it's Tuesday, July fifteenth, twenty twenty five. It

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Speaker 2: is the All Star Break. Everybody's doing well. I assume

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Speaker 2: out there, hopefully right, no Phillies baseball a couple days,

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Speaker 2: you get a little mental break, team gets some microt.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting some rest.

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Speaker 2: Now, we're all getting a little bit of rest. Unless

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Speaker 2: you're covering the draft a couple of days and ready

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Speaker 2: with the draft. Then there's no draft. You're Brian Barber,

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Speaker 2: who we had on a couple of weeks ago. No

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Speaker 2: rest for Brian Barber.

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Speaker 3: But check out that podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was good, barbar it was good.

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Speaker 3: He was sold. It was great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. Phillies finished the first half on

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Speaker 2: Sunday in San Diego two to one victory over the

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Speaker 2: Padres at Petco Park. They went two and four on

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Speaker 2: the road trip out West, but they entered the All

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Speaker 2: Star Break with a half game lead over the Mets

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Speaker 2: in the National League East. They had the fourth best

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Speaker 2: record in the National League East or in the National League.

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Speaker 2: They had some great times, they had some not so

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Speaker 2: great times. They look really good. Sometimes they were inconsistent,

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Speaker 2: sometimes really crappy. Sometimes yeah, really crappy. Sometimes they couldn't

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Speaker 2: hit sometimes. So I wanted to get your guys opinion

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Speaker 2: on the first half, and that is a great time.

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Speaker 2: first half give why don't you.

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Speaker 3: Give us some opinions? Topic?

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Speaker 2: All right here? I try to listen to as much

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Speaker 2: the show, which is great. We get a lot of

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Speaker 2: Obviously we're all on X. We hear from what we

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Speaker 2: hear from people at WOW. We hear from our friends

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Speaker 2: asking about the Phillies, and a lot of concern about

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Speaker 2: the offense, a lot of concern. I don't think this

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Speaker 2: team's good enough to win the World Series, and yet

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Speaker 2: here they are. They've been really inconsistent, but they're in

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Speaker 2: first place. Now do they have flaws? One hundred per

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent? They have flaws. The rotation, though, is

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Speaker 2: out of this world, and I think that is something

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Speaker 2: They have they have a rotation that is on an

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Speaker 2: historically excellent pace. They finished the first half again just

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Speaker 2: I like to use war just as a kind of

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Speaker 2: a general measuring stick. They finished the first half Phillies

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Speaker 2: rotation with a thirteen point one war that's the fourth

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Speaker 2: highest of any rotation at the All Star break this century.

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Speaker 2: Number one, of course, the twenty eleven Phillies. But I

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Speaker 2: look at the rest of this league. You get the Dodgers,

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Speaker 2: you got the Cubs, the Brewers right now have a

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Speaker 2: better record than the Phillies. All of the teams have

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Speaker 2: had really rough stretches. There's no perfect team out there.

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Speaker 2: And so anytime somebody says that they're not, you know,

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Speaker 2: hold on a second, Hold on a second. If they

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Speaker 2: I think they you know, they can go on a run.

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Are they going to win the World Series. Probably not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's really hard to win the World Series.

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Speaker 2: But the way I see this team, it's a good team.

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Speaker 2: It's got a chance. They just need to kind of

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Speaker 2: to step up there or currently on the rosters. That's

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Speaker 2: kind of where I stand on this team. After the

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Speaker 2: first half. They're a good team. They're good. Are they

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Are the Cubs? No, the Brewers? No, even the Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: Did they lose?

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Speaker 2: Just lose like six to seven in a row? We

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Speaker 1: There you go route.

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Speaker 3: So I'm a great point.

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Speaker 5: So you guys know how I feel about pitching, pitching

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Speaker 3: Other than what they're going to do with the fifth,

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Speaker 6: Right now, it's Taiwan, and it's gonna be Taiwan out

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Speaker 6: of the break. It could at some point be Nola,

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Speaker 3: Win the World Series?

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Speaker 6: I don't know that, because they're going to have to

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Speaker 6: and they have proven so far that they are a

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Speaker 3: The guys that have to step up.

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Speaker 6: For this team to win a World Series are the

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Speaker 3: And I'm talking about.

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Speaker 6: Scharter, Harper, Turner, Casianos, those four guys. They may not

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Speaker 3: Pitching, because they've done it in the past, some of

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Speaker 6: It, do it a little more consistently and get more

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Speaker 3: And they do have a real legitimate chance because they're talented.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen. Do they

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Speaker 3: need more bullpen help, No doubt. They gotta have it.

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Speaker 6: They gotta have it because the games that where the

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Speaker 3: They have to be able to lock.

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Speaker 7: It down because their offenses so inconsistent. So yes, that

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Speaker 6: I hope that Dave Dombrowski can come up with one

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Speaker 7: And if they do, and if he does, then they

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Speaker 3: If they do not do that, then I think it's

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Speaker 7: For us to think that they will be a World

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Speaker 1: I agree, well, I agree with you.

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Speaker 8: They need their twenty million dollar crew to you know,

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Speaker 8: we talk about this all the time. You need you

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Speaker 8: for ninety three wins, nice spot, leading the division.

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Speaker 1: Nice spot. Honestly, I think they left some.

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Speaker 8: Meat on the bone here though. They are a five

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Speaker 8: the Mets scuffled a lot in that period of time,

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Speaker 8: nineteen nineteen or five hundred since June one, thirty eight games,

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Speaker 8: you know where they are offensively, It's just you know,

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Speaker 8: I'm feeling like their priority is definitely bullpen. If they

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Speaker 1: But you know, all in all, I'm.

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Speaker 8: Pleased with with I think you have to be pleased

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Speaker 8: with where they are, though they left some meat on

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Speaker 8: the bone, like I said, with their performance since June one,

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Speaker 8: No Aaron Nola, Bryce Harper banged up and not producing

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Speaker 8: I mean, those are three big things right there, and

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Speaker 8: they've essentially played over them and survived them. Right Your

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Speaker 8: two of your big off season acquisitions in Romano and

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Speaker 8: Bryson Stott has not produced. The offense has been inconsistent.

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Speaker 8: You know, you're getting a great run out of shore

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Speaker 6: And let me just say this finally, I think Rob

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Speaker 6: Thomps has done a really good job. Based on some

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not good. It's one of the worst

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Speaker 6: League East, you got to give a little credit to

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Speaker 1: I think they're both pretty slammed dunkish. What do you got?

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Speaker 6: And then do you imagine each year orow not making

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Speaker 6: You know, it's ridiculous. I won't go there too much.

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Speaker 8: Go out and take some names and kick some ass

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm looking forward to, Phillies Brewers early September.

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Speaker 6: The Miz on the mound, right, five start, five start,

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Speaker 3: Surprise, there's one big surprise for me. The surprise for.

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Speaker 6: Me is the is the futility of Bryson Stott because

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Speaker 8: He's he's under he's under two hundred since June one.

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Speaker 1: On Jordan Romano. It's just that, you know, he was

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Speaker 1: They are below league average, below league average in total.

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Speaker 2: My bold prediction was Jose Alvarado is going to be

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Speaker 2: the first Phillies reliever with thirty saves since Jen Mar

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Speaker 2: Gomez in twenty sixteen. That's not gonna happen. That's not

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Speaker 2: gonna happen. Jose gets suspended for pe.

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Speaker 3: He could have been had he not gone on that

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Speaker 3: whatever of this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. If that would have been natural and

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Speaker 2: he had been able to pitch like that and stay healthy,

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Speaker 2: maybe he would have done it, because man, he was

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Speaker 2: having a fantastic season before he got suspended. So that

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Speaker 2: was my bold prediction. Obviously that will not happen. Ruben,

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Speaker 2: You're actually correct on this, uh in a sense, but

448
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Speaker 2: not in the way. But it hasn't really turned out

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Speaker 2: the way you thought about it, and you just mentioned it.

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Speaker 2: You said, Bryson Scott is going to ascend to the

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Speaker 2: leadoff spot after the first month of the season. You

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Speaker 2: said he's gonna stay there and he's going to have

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Speaker 2: a breakout, big breakout year, And obviously that has he

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Speaker 2: He did hit leadoff for a stretch. Half of that

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Speaker 2: half of that was right. He did ascend the leadoff spot,

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Speaker 2: but did not stick there because he you know, he's

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Speaker 2: he's been struggling a lot. Like you said, somebody mentioned

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Speaker 2: what under two hundreds since uh one, since June one,

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Speaker 2: Bryson Stott, So it's been a real struggle for him.

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Speaker 2: So there we go on our first two predictions. Jim,

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Speaker 2: your bold prediction, it could actually still maybe happen. Probably

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Speaker 2: needs some help, but it could actually probably still happen.

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Speaker 2: Christopher Sanchez will finish top three for nlcion.

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Speaker 3: Oh, great call.

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Speaker 2: He might.

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Speaker 3: Steens and Chris Sanchez.

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Speaker 2: How about that Wheeler Skien Sanchez.

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Speaker 1: I thought, I thought my prediction was Ryan Kirker.

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Speaker 2: In the you you had mentioned that, but in that

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Speaker 2: segment that we did where you officially yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 2: the one that you gave. So that's I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think you did also mention though Ryan Kirker in twenty

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Speaker 2: plus saves at some point, but that was the one

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Speaker 2: you gave is your official bold prediction.

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Speaker 8: Well, Christophers Sanchez absolutely has a chance at that, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: The Phillies selected in the first round since Aaron Nola

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Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen, and uh, Ruby, Yeah, Ruben's guy. The draft,

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Speaker 2: all pitchers. Fourteen out of the twenty players selected by

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Speaker 2: the Phillies in this draft pitchers, and uh, Gauge would

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Speaker 2: obviously college pitcher. I asked Brian Barber, I said, you know, hey,

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Speaker 2: last time you guys took a college pitcher in the

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Speaker 2: first round, Aaron Nola. Everybody said, hey, you know he's

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Speaker 2: a college guy, first round guy. Could he be a

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Speaker 2: fast mover and get to the big leagues pretty quickly?

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Speaker 2: And of course I think, you guys, you know, you

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Speaker 2: can't say, of course, yeah, one hundred percent. But he

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Speaker 2: was in the big leagues a year later. And you know,

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Speaker 2: certainly he said, Gauge is the type of guy that

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Speaker 2: could could move fast through the system. Now I do

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Speaker 2: not think he is. There's any expectations that he's gonna

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Speaker 2: mean the Phillies bullpen at the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: I saw that a lot on X last night. You know,

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Speaker 2: He's gonna mean the bullpen in September.

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Speaker 3: He made him the next David Price.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be the next.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris saled David Price. I guess you know. So

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Speaker 2: he have any thoughts on Gage? Would Jim? I remember you?

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Speaker 2: You texted, uh, texted me during that game. You're like,

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Speaker 2: this guy, tell us what you said. Remember when you're

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Speaker 2: watching the no hitter.

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Speaker 8: I'm a bit of a college baseball geek. I love

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Speaker 8: college baseball, and I watched the World Series and it

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Speaker 8: was a day game. I watched that game against Murray

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Speaker 8: State when he no hit Murray State and his fastball,

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Speaker 8: you know, it was ninety seven, ninety eight ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: The whole game, and he threw a lot of pitches

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Speaker 1: because he had.

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Speaker 8: This no hitter and they were not going to take

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Speaker 8: him out, so his pitch con is climbing. He's still

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Speaker 8: ninety eight ninety nine. And what just the carry through

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Speaker 8: the zone, you know, the way it just the ride

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Speaker 8: through the zone, the way it stays on plane, whatever

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Speaker 8: fancy terminology they give to ride these days. It was just,

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Speaker 8: you know, it was power, and he had some bulldog

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Speaker 8: in him. He kind of reminded me of a sunny

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Speaker 8: Gray type with better stuff, you know, maybe body wise

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Speaker 8: and tenacity wise he had, you know, just watching on TV,

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Speaker 8: he looked like a bulldog. He was emotional, but he

558
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 8: was riding that fastball, good breaking ball, and you know,

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Speaker 8: watching that game, and I think I texted you and

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Speaker 8: gel right or I texted, yeah, I texted somebody. I said, uh,

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Speaker 8: because he's working with uh history bruined in Omaha. And

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Speaker 8: and then and the course of this text, uh, I said,

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Speaker 8: I did say it. I know, I go, this is

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Speaker 8: this is the Phillies first pick.

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Speaker 2: He did, Oh my god, you history brun and Omaha.

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Speaker 6: And then you know what that tells me, Jim, you

567
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Speaker 6: taint just a great post scout.

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Speaker 3: You are you? You taint just one of those. You

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Speaker 3: are a great, great college scout.

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Speaker 2: He said, He said that there was he said, history

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Speaker 2: brun in Omaha. There's a couple of comments back and forth,

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Speaker 2: and then Jim's that, indeed, Philly's pick looks like young

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Speaker 2: Sonny Gray.

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Speaker 8: With better stuff by wise and and and competitiveness wise.

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Speaker 8: He reminded me of because I love Sonny young Sonny

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Speaker 8: Gray coming out of Vandy.

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Speaker 1: He don't crow like he used to. But I always

578
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Speaker 1: liked him.

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Speaker 3: Well, the interesting thing about this is, you know, you talk.

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Speaker 6: We we talk often, and we talked often about the

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Speaker 6: mentality that takes the pitch in Philadelphia. And this guy

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Speaker 6: looks like he's got some as we say uh in

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Speaker 6: the vernacular, uh when we're Latin Americans.

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Speaker 3: Some cojones. And I really think that he's a guy that.

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Speaker 6: Sort of fits the bill for Philadelphia. You got to

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Speaker 6: have him if you're get to pitch there, and whether

587
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Speaker 6: he pitches in a rotation or the ends up being

588
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Speaker 6: a bullpen guy, you gotta have those. And it certainly

589
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Speaker 6: seems like he's one of those types of guy. Now

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Speaker 6: he's got obviously a plus fastball, plus breaking ball. Can

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Speaker 6: he put it together and be the guy at the

592
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Speaker 6: major league level? It's possible, And and the way he

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Speaker 6: went about it in the College World Series, he can't

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Speaker 6: get bigger than that. You can't get bigger than that.

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Speaker 3: As far as uh being having to perform under pressure

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Speaker 3: and for him to have done that pretty impressive. And

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Speaker 3: hopefully we'll see him Billy.

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Speaker 8: So, especially for a team like Arkansas, has big expectations.

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Speaker 8: I mean, of course, you know, so he's cruising for

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Speaker 8: this No hitter, and I think it was like the

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Speaker 8: eighth inning or maybe at ninth inning, I kind of forgot,

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Speaker 8: but he got a little bit cute because he was

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Speaker 8: just the fastball right at the letters by people, and

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Speaker 8: he flips up a breaking ball and hits the guy,

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Speaker 8: loses his perfecto.

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Speaker 1: He said. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: First comment after the game was I hit the guy.

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Speaker 2: Shouldn't hit the guy.

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 2: I loved it.

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Speaker 1: That was all just buried fastballs.

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Speaker 6: But it was interesting for them to go so many

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Speaker 6: pictures early. And I want to ask you the question

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Speaker 6: of the question was and do they feel comfortable enough?

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Speaker 6: I think I think if you if you held a

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Speaker 6: gun to him, Barbara would probably just tell you, listen,

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Speaker 6: these are the best guys we had on the board

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Speaker 6: at the time.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you typically don't go picture after picture

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Speaker 3: after picture because you.

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Speaker 6: Got to mix in some you know, you got to

622
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Speaker 6: mix in some some position players. But it also may

623
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Speaker 6: mean something about their overall system, whereby they feel pretty

624
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Speaker 6: good about, you know, some of the.

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Speaker 3: Position players that they have coming at a certain levels.

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Speaker 1: So a two parter, they're gonna subtract some pictures.

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Speaker 8: Rangers probably gone, and they might say goodbye to one

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Speaker 8: here at the trade gadline.

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Speaker 6: So they may lose Able or Painter or someone like that,

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Speaker 6: or multiples of some of those guys, and and they're

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Speaker 6: trying to make sure that they have plenty of depth

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Speaker 6: when and if they do.

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Speaker 1: Yep, I don't think the I don't think they've given

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Speaker 1: up Painter, do you.

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Speaker 3: I do not think so. I think he's still an untouchable.

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Speaker 3: But you never know.

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Speaker 8: It's all about the opportunity. You never know what it

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Speaker 8: might happen, this whole untouchable stuff.

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Speaker 6: I think the only way that Painter goes in a

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Speaker 6: deal is if they get two players they have under control.

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Speaker 3: I mean you're talking about like the Kwan class.

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Speaker 6: A type of uh you know that one of those

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Speaker 6: types of deals because you have them under control for

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Speaker 6: a while and there and the performers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would get me thinking.

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Speaker 3: They would make me think that I would do that.

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Speaker 6: I would move him for the if I'm talking about

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Speaker 6: getting that those two pieces, you're talking about the best

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Speaker 6: one of the best in the game leadoff hitters and

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Speaker 6: left fielders, and you're talking about you know, pretty damn

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Speaker 6: good back end of the bullpen piece.

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Speaker 2: So I would think about that. That would I would

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Speaker 2: consider think about that for sure. We will be back

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