Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where not only football is back,
Speaker 1: but my tortoise, Norri's back too. More on that in
Speaker 1: a bit fun show today. We were at Rams camp
Speaker 1: at Loyola Merrymount earlier and Jordan Rodrigue of the Athletic
Speaker 1: joined me. We played a fun if then game about
Speaker 1: the whole league, like if Rashad Bateman stings healthy, you
Speaker 1: know that man is getting a thousand yards this year.
Speaker 1: Then we talked a little bit about the Rams practice
Speaker 1: that we watched and about the team this year, and
Speaker 1: then finally wrapped it up with a fun interview with
Speaker 1: defensive Rookie of the Year runner up Kobe Turner and
Speaker 1: emerging Rams second year center Steve Agula. Who are buddies,
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say it, they were delight They were
Speaker 1: delightful people. But I'm adding this to the top of
Speaker 1: the show because we got a sneaky amount of news
Speaker 1: and a game to talk. Yeah, football is back, Randy,
Speaker 1: hit the news drop, Okay, So I will get to
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game soon.
Speaker 2: That was the plan.
Speaker 1: We just got to take two minutes at the top
Speaker 1: to cover a little Hall of Fame game and feel
Speaker 1: as fresh as you can when you listen to this,
Speaker 1: but look, that game is never going to end. It's
Speaker 1: technically going on forever. And then suddenly this afternoon became
Speaker 1: the biggest day of news we've really had in training camp.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to go over the big stuff first.
Speaker 1: This Justin Herbert foot injury is a bummer. He has
Speaker 1: an injury to his planter fascia, so he will be
Speaker 1: in a walking boot for two weeks, but the team
Speaker 1: has publicly said the expectation is he will be ready
Speaker 1: for Week one against the Raiders. Very very interesting by
Speaker 1: the Chargers how much information they did gave give after
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh was giving no information in terms of injuries
Speaker 1: just earlier this week. So there's an important distinction to
Speaker 1: be made here. An injury to the plan fascia is
Speaker 1: not the same, according to medical experts, as having planter paschitis,
Speaker 1: and so there's a hope here that this injury is
Speaker 1: not something that drags his whole season down as he
Speaker 1: plays through pain. As we've seen with planter phauschitis over
Speaker 1: and over. It's a really terrible injury. So that's the
Speaker 1: hope because I've seen enough Justin Herbert playing through injuries
Speaker 1: over the last few years, and it's just not fun.
Speaker 1: And maybe being in a walking boot for a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks and then ramping up as activity gets him better.
Speaker 1: We will see, because it should go without saying. This
Speaker 1: team just cannot compete without him. We were at practice
Speaker 1: on Monday. The difference between East and Stick is like
Speaker 1: the difference between me and Kobe Turner and Steve Avola.
Speaker 1: If you check out my socials, I look like a
Speaker 1: tiny little baby next to these men. And so I
Speaker 1: think even with East and Stick running the offense in
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, it's gonna make it harder
Speaker 1: to install the offense and get the receivers good reps.
Speaker 1: But hopefully Herbert can come back. I'm gonna be optimistic. Also,
Speaker 1: hert DeAndre Hopkins of the Titans is out about four
Speaker 1: weeks with a knee injury. According to our NFL Network
Speaker 1: reporter Tom Pellasero, that four weeks number is so definitive
Speaker 1: that that gets him back before the season, But a
Speaker 1: knee injury to a receiver his age obviously a big
Speaker 1: concern that he won't be one hundred percent right this season.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they're being extra careful they are deeper than they
Speaker 1: were a year ago. They've got Calvin Ridley, They've got
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd, they still have Nick westbroog Akina and Treylon
Speaker 1: Burke's you know, gets in the mix. So do the math.
Speaker 1: Hopkins should be better, but it's a concern. Also a concern.
Speaker 1: Gino Smith has missed practice the last two days with
Speaker 1: issues to his knee and hip, which doesn't sound that
Speaker 1: bad until you heard Mike McDonald, their coach, talk about
Speaker 1: him getting some imaging that usually means an MRI. And
Speaker 1: so we are holding our breath. NFL Daily is officially
Speaker 1: not taking any questions on this matter at the time.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we wish you know the best. We ask
Speaker 1: everyone to send their thoughts, their best thoughts to the
Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest Bucks were in the news today made Tristan
Speaker 1: Wurf's the highest paid tackle in the league. On the
Speaker 1: same day, they got some rough injury news. They lost
Speaker 1: one of their guards to a peta for the season
Speaker 1: to a torn aco and then Yaya Diabe, who's the
Speaker 1: best edge rusher on a pretty thin group, is out
Speaker 1: four to six weeks, so we will see if he
Speaker 1: can get back in time. All right, let's wrap this
Speaker 1: up with the Hall of Fame game. This was fun.
Speaker 1: It got stopped midway through the third quarter, which you know,
Speaker 1: stinks for the players that were got to get some snaps.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't you know, maybe that's perfect for the preseason.
Speaker 1: It was a crazy lightning storm. I hope our friend
Speaker 1: Nick Shook is all right. He was there. Colleen Wolf
Speaker 1: was there. The game ended twenty one to seventeen Bears win.
Speaker 1: Well played game, kind of fun. Davis Mills and case
Speaker 1: Keatam like lit it up. They cooked. Brett Repin had
Speaker 1: three touchdowns for the Bears, a couple of small nuggets.
Speaker 1: Khalil Herbert at running back for the Bears, played behind
Speaker 1: Roshawn Johnson. The Bears receiver Colin Johnson, who was once
Speaker 1: with the Giants, once with the Jags, I believe made
Speaker 1: some big time plays. This is what happens in Week one,
Speaker 1: but will keep an eye on him and then Cam Akers.
Speaker 1: His numbers don't look amazing, but this is a guy
Speaker 1: coming off his second torn achilles in a few years,
Speaker 1: and I thought he had a lot of juice. He
Speaker 1: looked good. He made some people miss. I think he's
Speaker 1: going to make that Texans team. Joe Mixon, by the way,
Speaker 1: has not hit the practice field since the first day
Speaker 1: of camp. That is something to worry about. Also, of course,
Speaker 1: the kickoff rule, the dynamic kickoff, that was really the
Speaker 1: main story of the night. It's going to be the
Speaker 1: main story of the month. It's gonna be a big
Speaker 1: story all season. It looked weird. I don't think teams
Speaker 1: are going to break out exactly all the wrinkles they're
Speaker 1: going to add to this in the preseason. But Matt
Speaker 1: Eberflu said after the game, the Bear's coach, He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't want to break everything out, but we also
Speaker 1: are trying to figure it out. And you could see
Speaker 1: that the Texans looked a little lost on how to
Speaker 1: block this. That they could not get the ball deep
Speaker 1: on their kickoff returns at all, and you could see
Speaker 1: the returners just like looking back to the ball, which
Speaker 1: is just not what you want to do to figure
Speaker 1: out when the guy catch it. The Bear seemed to
Speaker 1: have it more under control. They ran some plays like
Speaker 1: a trap, almost like you see an offense. It's going
Speaker 1: to be very interesting. But we had seven returns on
Speaker 1: the night and only one touchback, and I think that's
Speaker 1: the idea. Get more plays, get another talking point. It
Speaker 1: is going to be interesting. And yeah, that's it for
Speaker 1: the first preseason game of the year. We'll get a
Speaker 1: full slate of games in about a week and we
Speaker 1: will cover all those on NFL Daily. And finally, thank
Speaker 1: you to everyone who really cared about my tortoise, Nori,
Speaker 1: who was lost and remained lost for hours after I
Speaker 1: stopped haping, and it was driving me crazy. I had
Speaker 1: to leave at one point and come back. I was
Speaker 1: on my hands and knees digging through my backyard, but
Speaker 1: in the corner, about a foot under the ground was
Speaker 1: my lovely tortoise, Nori. So I thank you for all
Speaker 1: the good wishes you sent her, and she scared me
Speaker 1: and I'm putting a track and device on her.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the rest of the show.
Speaker 1: This was fun. Jordan and I are gonna play a
Speaker 1: little game off the top, and then, like I said,
Speaker 1: we will get to some RAMS coverage. I will be
Speaker 1: down at Saints camp on Friday, not doing that for
Speaker 1: NFL Daily, but if you're watching NFL Network, I'll be
Speaker 1: on Inside Training Camp Live. We will be back with
Speaker 1: NFL Daily Monday, morning, covering every team in the AFC
Speaker 1: with Camp notes with Nick Schuk and in the meantime,
Speaker 1: I'll throw it to myself in Jordan. All right, excited
Speaker 1: to be welcoming in Jordan Rodrigue, our friend, our coworker.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm using the Royal Wei, but
Speaker 1: I'm speaking for Randy and Jason, Drake and Cynthia, the
Speaker 1: whole crew we have out here at RAMS Camp, your home,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to some Rams talk. Jordan, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 4: Greg, Welcome to my domain. Doesn't the grass smell amazing?
Speaker 1: It is really nice?
Speaker 5: Totally our first take doing this.
Speaker 1: It was it was not Sonny before while they were practicing.
Speaker 1: Nicely cool. You got the ocean breeze. It is great.
Speaker 4: I think I'm insane for wearing a jacket. It was
Speaker 4: about to rain a second ago, but I'm feeling good.
Speaker 1: Yes, everyone should check out the YouTube version of this show,
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Speaker 1: can find Sean McVay and Jordan talking in depth right
Speaker 1: behind my interview that's coming up a little later in
Speaker 1: the show with Steve Avula and Kobe Turner. But first,
Speaker 1: before we get to the Rams talk. We're gonna play
Speaker 1: a game. It's gonna be a fun game, and Randy
Speaker 1: is in charge here and it's gonna be an if
Speaker 1: then proposition. You came up with this idea, Why don't
Speaker 1: you you explain it?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: To be clear, Yes, came up with it very last minute.
Speaker 1: It's a great one.
Speaker 4: It's a great one, as you after you sent me
Speaker 4: a very strange photo of Skip Bayless without any context
Speaker 4: or captioning.
Speaker 1: It was just a funny tweet. If you saw the tweet,
Speaker 1: you would know Ernestine caught a can.
Speaker 5: It was a candid It was a candid shot.
Speaker 1: It was okay, it was amazing.
Speaker 4: If then the concept is literally what it sounds like.
Speaker 4: If X happens, then I believe why will happen? Yes,
Speaker 4: so these are takes, but there takes with steaks because
Speaker 4: we are timed and I already had the poop scared
Speaker 4: out of me by the air gun that is going
Speaker 4: to go off once we run out of time, yes.
Speaker 1: Thirty seconds. So we wanted to get as many teams
Speaker 1: takes as we could in the show. Great analysis. Why
Speaker 1: don't you kick us off? Are you ready? Jordan?
Speaker 5: I'm ready? You let me know when the clock starts, right.
Speaker 1: Let's start the clock, Randy, Let's go.
Speaker 4: Okay, if Tajy Spears and Tony Pollard can stay healthy,
Speaker 4: then I think the Titans have a top five rushing
Speaker 4: attack this season. I also think think that Will Levis
Speaker 4: at quarterback does provide a little bit of help and
Speaker 4: support there because they're going to be able to do
Speaker 4: some of the run pass misdirection stuff, and you know,
Speaker 4: the quarterback being able to run the ball is always
Speaker 4: going to help the running backs. Running backs being able
Speaker 4: to run effectively is always going to help the quarterback.
Speaker 4: And I just think that this could potentially.
Speaker 5: Be a top Oh see.
Speaker 4: This is the good thing about this because I ramble,
Speaker 4: So we actually started this is a this is we
Speaker 4: actually started this idea because we both honk.
Speaker 1: I don't think you ramble, but yeah, we're both big
Speaker 1: time honkers. Sometimes we need to be a little more concise.
Speaker 1: And nothing like allowed airhorn to motivate us. I thought
Speaker 1: you were going to get it stopped there at the end,
Speaker 1: and I like that take. It's a lot of faith
Speaker 1: in the Callahan father son duo to turn that offensive
Speaker 1: line around, but just pure running back talent, that's one
Speaker 1: of the best duos in the league. All Right, I'm
Speaker 1: going to stay in the backfield, start the clock. If
Speaker 1: Randy's Packers get good year Josh Jacobs, And if you
Speaker 1: look at Josh Jake his career, it's either incredible or
Speaker 1: it's really not incredible, like injuries or just he doesn't
Speaker 1: look like the right guy. Last year he had both
Speaker 1: of those guys in the same year. But if they
Speaker 1: get good year Josh Jacobs, they have a top three
Speaker 1: offense in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 4: And he put a little bow on it too with
Speaker 4: the shoulder shrug. YouTube watchers can can see that you
Speaker 4: like you kind of like, did the the shrug at
Speaker 4: me a little bit?
Speaker 1: I mean, and I feel confident in that I'm emphasizing
Speaker 1: the Packers having a top three offense. I just I
Speaker 1: just have so much faith in Matt Lafleur and what
Speaker 1: Jordan Love can do, and this receiver corps and how
Speaker 1: dynamic like I think they have the absolute perfect combination
Speaker 1: of continuity and youth at the exact same time.
Speaker 4: I think they're blessed with great quarterback play and they
Speaker 4: should be again this year. They also have tight ends
Speaker 4: who are super active both in the run and the
Speaker 4: past are going to be using those a lot.
Speaker 5: We've talked about this.
Speaker 4: Everything springs forth, everything else, everything like unlocks everything else.
Speaker 5: That's the way that offense works.
Speaker 1: I think you should, also, Randy, have just kind of
Speaker 1: the freedom to use the airhorn whenever you want, whenever
Speaker 1: Jordan talks too much? Right, go on, It's not I'm joking.
Speaker 5: Because I see there we go.
Speaker 4: All right, let's start too much Jordan.
Speaker 1: No, I'm joking because I am a chronic overtalker. Let's go.
Speaker 4: Okay, ready, keep it moving. Oh are we going right now?
Speaker 1: Start the clock.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 4: If quote unquote the media is finally tired of quarterback
Speaker 4: and VP candidates, then candidates I believe who will be
Speaker 4: in MVP conversation non quarterbacks this year Tyreek Hill, justin
Speaker 4: Jefferson pending the quarterback situation.
Speaker 5: I'm on raw Saint Brown, TJ.
Speaker 4: Watt, and Max Crosby unlocked by Christian Wilkins.
Speaker 1: Okay, you can use the response as part of the
Speaker 1: thirty seconds to here. Defensive players are never going to
Speaker 1: get it. If JJ Watt in twenty fifteen or whatever
Speaker 1: it is, are never going to get it. Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: never really got considered, you're.
Speaker 5: Talking about most valuable, most valuable.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm gonna get one more word in there.
Speaker 1: A receiver I think someday maybe could may maybe, And
Speaker 1: you can't add a qualifier with it if the quarterback
Speaker 1: situation doesn't work. All right, I'm gonna go to my
Speaker 1: next one. This is what I'm calling a medium warm
Speaker 1: take start the clock. If the Broncos offensive line holds up,
Speaker 1: they will be an efficient offense. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: I'm setting the bar a bar so medium, so low though,
Speaker 1: but people just think this is going to be a
Speaker 1: tire fire. I think if you're looking at their skill
Speaker 1: position players, you can make an argument they're the worst
Speaker 1: group of skill position players in the entire league. There's
Speaker 1: probably about five or six groups. If you're counting quarterback
Speaker 1: as a skill position, which I do, that would be
Speaker 1: in that mix. They're one of those five or six teams.
Speaker 1: But I actually think it's a good offensive line. If
Speaker 1: it holds up like I think it will, they'll actually
Speaker 1: be like efficient. They'll be like a fourteenth best offensive league.
Speaker 5: A.
Speaker 4: You are totally under selling the apparent whispers coming out
Speaker 4: of training camp. Everybody is a buzz over the Josh
Speaker 4: Reynolds bo Nicks connection.
Speaker 5: So let's not let's not get crazy here.
Speaker 4: Second, you basically what you basically did was you proverbially
Speaker 4: gave the meme of the gold star that says you tried.
Speaker 4: That was your handoff to the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Just now. It was just a realization that the Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson Broncos, which were hard to watch if you looked
Speaker 1: at the end of the year like, they were totally
Speaker 1: average in terms of DVOA. And that's just what Sean
Speaker 1: Payton can do. So I've been quite down on Sean
Speaker 1: payn on this show in various shows for some reasons.
Speaker 1: But he's gonna make a efficient offense, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Ready, start the clock.
Speaker 4: If the Giants dropped four of their first six, then
Speaker 4: the house is clean. The defenses in their first six
Speaker 4: are Vikings, Browns, Cowboys, Seahawks, Bengals quarterback exposed rough scene.
Speaker 5: If they drop the first four or six.
Speaker 1: Cleaning house that early. I disagree. Let's start the clock again,
Speaker 1: because I have one very close to that I want
Speaker 1: to talk about them together. If the Saints starts slow,
Speaker 1: they could be picking in the top five of the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. They start with the Panthers, gotta win that.
Speaker 1: But then at Dallas, Philadelphia, at Falcons, at Kansas City,
Speaker 1: the vibes there are funky. The depth chart is funky
Speaker 1: and so okay, I think we're looking at these two
Speaker 1: teams Giant Saints as potential ones for slow starts where
Speaker 1: it could go really bad.
Speaker 4: The reason I say this is cleanhouse slash blow things
Speaker 4: up is because you always have to try to recoup
Speaker 4: anything you could possibly get before the trade deadline. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying that they two more words. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that we combined two in one time.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'm dying.
Speaker 1: All right, I guess we have to move on. But
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't get get the Hanks
Speaker 1: too much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Greg, Greg think the.
Speaker 1: Saints is I'm not trying to be too harsh. I
Speaker 1: actually think they could go nine and eight and that
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. But they just feel like a team
Speaker 1: if they start one in three that the whole thing
Speaker 1: could fall apart because the foundation just feels a little.
Speaker 4: Rickety one more point, please please, yes, I brought you
Speaker 4: a water bottle. Okay, So the why I'm saying this.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's like, Okay, you lost four of
Speaker 4: your first six, Okay, it's October thirteenth, goodbye. I'm just
Speaker 4: saying you try to recoup anything you can possibly exchange
Speaker 4: in the franchise, obviously keeping a few people around player wise,
Speaker 4: including ones that have been highlighted here on hard knocks.
Speaker 4: But I do think that if you drop that and
Speaker 4: your quarterback is exposed in that way, you do have
Speaker 4: a serious conversation about not only trying to recoup things
Speaker 4: before the trade deadline, and then you have a serious
Speaker 4: talk about personnel and head.
Speaker 1: Coach Hm just got in there. I agree, we're going
Speaker 1: to see some Drew lock. They don't really have many
Speaker 1: veterans to through out there. I'll go again, what the
Speaker 1: heck start the clock and I'm keeping mind simple, so
Speaker 1: I'll give you part of the thirty seconds if you
Speaker 1: If Anthony Weaver's scheme is as good as I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be, h and gets Chop Robinson one on ones,
Speaker 1: he can win Defensive Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 5: Oh I like that.
Speaker 1: Take a lot of buzz, a lot of Dolphins. I
Speaker 1: feel like we've had some negative Dolphins buzz, a lot
Speaker 1: of good buzz of chop. Robinson might just be a
Speaker 1: pass rusher only as a rookie, like kind of like
Speaker 1: Byron Young was here. But that's fine. You can win
Speaker 1: the Rookie of the Year by getting twelve sacks and
Speaker 1: five hundred snaps.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like his upside too.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm just setting you up, all right. The
Speaker 1: rules say you gotta move on.
Speaker 5: My next start the clock, Randy. Okay.
Speaker 4: If Russell Wilson misses much longer I guess he did
Speaker 4: individuals today, then the Steelers will full on go to
Speaker 4: Justin Field's Art Smith ooh, he of the overhauled.
Speaker 5: Dynamic, a new lease on life.
Speaker 4: He's gonna love the dynamic playmaking ability of Justin Fields.
Speaker 4: I want to see them spam the slants. One point
Speaker 4: two two epa per play for Justin Fields on slants
Speaker 4: the highest in the NFL. Didn't actually use him enough
Speaker 4: in that previous offense and lean into the run game
Speaker 4: with an extremely explosive quarterback who can run do it art.
Speaker 1: But that was the most perfect one. I can can't
Speaker 1: possibly add anything to that. I'm gonna say, if Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick has enough fun this year, we doing the media
Speaker 1: that we may never see him on the sideline again
Speaker 1: because he realizes what a good gig it is. He's
Speaker 1: making a lot of money, I'm sure between his four jobs, Underdog,
Speaker 1: our friend Josh Norris, great job by him, getting Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick signed up. We got the Monday Night Football Belichick
Speaker 1: with Manning, we got McAfee, we got inside the NFL
Speaker 1: like we're getting a lot of Belichick as a Belichick
Speaker 1: a file. I love it, and I have a feeling
Speaker 1: he might really love it too, and not ever coach.
Speaker 5: Again, I have nothing to add.
Speaker 4: Okay, ready, please, this isn't even if I'm changing the
Speaker 4: rules of my own game here. Even if Justin Herbert
Speaker 4: gets that planner fasciitis in his right foot addressed properly,
Speaker 4: and I hope he does, he has so much fun
Speaker 4: to watch, then I'm still worried.
Speaker 5: That is a lingering injury.
Speaker 4: That's one that can pop up randomly years down the road.
Speaker 4: That's one where a quarterback who we really wanted to
Speaker 4: see run a little bit more this year, a quarterback
Speaker 4: who that's his plant foot. That's something I'm really concerned about.
Speaker 4: John Jim Harbough is going to run the hell out
Speaker 4: of the ball anyway, So just protect him a little bit.
Speaker 1: And I mean, Jim Harbory is going to be playing
Speaker 1: quarterback at these practices because he's going to see enough
Speaker 1: at East and Stick and say I want to get
Speaker 1: in there. I'm bummed out because that is a long
Speaker 1: term concern. Maybe we'll be proven wrong, but I am
Speaker 1: bummed out about that.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Last one for me, I'm gonna say, if the NFL
Speaker 1: thinks they can prevent the quote unquote cheat motion, they
Speaker 1: are dead wrong. And I don't even think they're necessarily
Speaker 1: trying to prevent it. All right, let's take We're gonna
Speaker 1: take a time I'm taking a time out. I'm making
Speaker 1: new rules as we go because this is too complicated
Speaker 1: to explain in less than fifteen seconds. You've dived deep
Speaker 1: into this on Thursday. Here, explain it to me. Explain
Speaker 1: a little context, because Mike Florio wrote about how they
Speaker 1: adjusted some of the rules that was maybe going to
Speaker 1: curb what Kyle Shanahan had called the cheap motion, which
Speaker 1: was a very NFL dorks bonanza of the motion that
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill started to do in Week one where he
Speaker 1: was just suddenly jumping out at the last second from
Speaker 1: the inside, and all the teams in the league, like
Speaker 1: the Rams, started copying it. Explain how maybe it was
Speaker 1: this adjustment was a little misunderstood.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love how deep Mike Florio gets into
Speaker 4: the rule book because someone has to do it. It's
Speaker 4: not fun work. Someone has to do it, and he
Speaker 4: really is deep into the rule book and all of
Speaker 4: those things.
Speaker 5: The thing is is.
Speaker 4: That motion rule that you cannot move upfield before the snap.
Speaker 4: That's been the motion rules, the rule since motion began,
Speaker 4: and so the way that it's been described to me,
Speaker 4: We've had an entire crew of officials led by Sean
Speaker 4: Hockeley here. They're basically training with the Rams for the
Speaker 4: next few days. They're going to do a couple of
Speaker 4: other camps as well, but I grilled them this morning
Speaker 4: pleasantly on what this actually was and what it means. Basically,
Speaker 4: they are still looking to make sure this pre snap
Speaker 4: motion that offensive skill players are not moving forward towards
Speaker 4: the line of secuit.
Speaker 1: Is what they do in the CFL. But that was
Speaker 1: the rule last year as well.
Speaker 5: It's been the role, it's been the rule that has.
Speaker 1: Maybe some players were getting away with it a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I went and watched and when Tyreek Kill did it,
Speaker 1: they timed it up perfectly. He wasn't moving forward and
Speaker 1: the only times players probably were moving forward it was
Speaker 1: like half a step and they just didn't time it right.
Speaker 1: But in that's the rule.
Speaker 4: Chain has more to do with players, skill players who
Speaker 4: are vacillating between a two point stance and a three
Speaker 4: point stance, which one coach described to me as what
Speaker 4: are we returning to f N nineteen sixties football, which
Speaker 4: for those skill players that's just not something that comes
Speaker 4: up very much, for specifically wide outs people like that.
Speaker 4: So this is not that actual. The actual rule change
Speaker 4: was more pertaining. This is how it's explained to me
Speaker 4: by the crew and by people I talked to here
Speaker 4: today at Thursday at RAMS camp. This was more to
Speaker 4: do with that part of it. Now, the motion can
Speaker 4: still be used, so cheat motion or fast exit motion,
Speaker 4: and the Dolphins have a really funny name for it
Speaker 4: that I don't think I can use without Randy bleeping out.
Speaker 4: But the short fast exit motion that you saw Tyreek
Speaker 4: Hill and other players across the league really excel with
Speaker 4: that can still happen. It's just the rules are still
Speaker 4: the same for that motion. You have to time the
Speaker 4: snap perfectly with the receiver in order to get upfield
Speaker 4: at the snap. Cannot get upfield before the snap.
Speaker 1: I thought Randy was going to hit you with the
Speaker 1: horn there.
Speaker 4: You were trying to go to him into hitting me
Speaker 4: with the horn, and I'm like, so upset.
Speaker 1: With you, dare you? I just thought it'd be funny.
Speaker 1: I just thought it'd be funny. It was a time out,
Speaker 1: So I'm just breaking all the roals. No, it's badass.
Speaker 1: I mean you were talking, thank you, my hero. You're
Speaker 1: talking to you're you're a real Capital R reporter. You're
Speaker 1: talking to the officials. You have this conversation that's going
Speaker 1: on with Sean McVay right behind me, getting into the weeds.
Speaker 4: Just like a sasquatch side. I was behind your interview, just.
Speaker 1: Just trying to understand this rule. Do you want to
Speaker 1: throw out one more if then? Or you want me to?
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 5: I want you too. You have some good ones.
Speaker 1: Let's go. If if Marvin Harrison Junior is that dude,
Speaker 1: time in all right, start the clock.
Speaker 4: This is a very official, serious game.
Speaker 1: So if Marvin Harrison Junior is that dude, the Cardinals
Speaker 1: will be top eight in EPA per play this year.
Speaker 4: Offensively, I'm gonna put him top twelve. I'll give him
Speaker 4: a little bit more of a like on ramp for that.
Speaker 4: But I love, I already love what I'm hearing.
Speaker 1: Do you know what they were weeks ten through eighteen
Speaker 1: last year with Kylery like fifth, they were top ten around?
Speaker 1: They think they were in eighth or ninth or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: second and running.
Speaker 4: I think with anything, you're gonna need an on REMP.
Speaker 4: You're gonna install a bunch of new things and try to,
Speaker 4: like again, stay ahead of the curve. So I think
Speaker 4: that's very possible.
Speaker 1: I'm buying. I don't buy a lot of hype.
Speaker 4: I set you up for that. I saw his hand moving.
Speaker 1: I'm weirdly buying this a Jones type just that, like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's a nice fourth receiving option. When you have Harrison
Speaker 1: Junior and Trey McBride and Michael Wilson's probably third and
Speaker 1: zee nice.
Speaker 5: They're gonna run the hell out of the ball. They're
Speaker 5: going to run the hell out of the ball.
Speaker 1: That nice little group of offensive players there maybe not
Speaker 1: as good as the ones here with the Rams. Let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break. Then we'll come back on the
Speaker 1: other side and Jordan and I are going to talk
Speaker 1: about the Rams, and then we're also gonna talk to
Speaker 1: Kobe Turner and Steve Avula right after this. Okay, we
Speaker 1: are back with Jordan rod Rieg doing her favorite thing
Speaker 1: to do in the entire world, talk about the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams.
Speaker 5: I do see your tweets, folks.
Speaker 1: Oh, don't be don't be hard.
Speaker 5: I talk about them too much.
Speaker 1: Don't be hard on Jordan.
Speaker 5: Uh, she's team that I cover.
Speaker 1: She's usually gonna be covering the whole league. And yes,
Speaker 1: we're here at the RAMS practice because we live in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. It's twenty minutes from work, and it is
Speaker 1: great to come out to the practice. And I like
Speaker 1: that these first these couple of weeks of camp is
Speaker 1: a different vibe of NFL daily because we're not going
Speaker 1: to be out in the field at all moving on.
Speaker 1: But it is cool to see live football and this
Speaker 1: was a perfect practice to be at. It was very competitive.
Speaker 1: A lot of sessions with a certain amount of time
Speaker 1: is on the clock, they have to go down the field.
Speaker 1: Rob Havenstein, I guess was the biggest. You know, just
Speaker 1: a little item of news. He had an injury appeared
Speaker 1: to be a foot or an ankle injury, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: had to leave the field. So it's been a lot
Speaker 1: of injuries for the Rams. This training came.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're currently without by the way, welcome. Doesn't the
Speaker 4: grass smell good? Yeah, it's incredible. I will be in
Speaker 4: many fields over the course of this year, and this
Speaker 4: is my happy place. So I am so happy that
Speaker 4: you guys are here today, that we're bringing the listener
Speaker 4: in as well. Yeah, they're missing three offensive linemen right now,
Speaker 4: three starters. They invested millions upon millions, including in that
Speaker 4: interior line.
Speaker 5: Each guard a three year deal.
Speaker 4: We have some great background sound as well, some excitement,
Speaker 4: some great excitement behind us.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: They extended the the right guard, Kevin Dotson, three years,
Speaker 4: three year, forty eight million. They also paid Jonah Jackson
Speaker 4: three years fifty one million, and he's injured. He's got
Speaker 4: a shoulder injury. He's weak to week. Left tackle Aleric
Speaker 4: Jackson is not playing right now. He has an ankle sprained.
Speaker 4: I asked Sean McVay when we can expect to see
Speaker 4: Aleric back, and he seems optimistic that he'll be back
Speaker 4: by the char the Chargers scrimmage in a couple of days.
Speaker 4: Rob Havenstegin though that that one's a little bit scary.
Speaker 4: The foot injury. You know, he is there stalwart on
Speaker 4: the offensive line. He's the veteran, he's a team captain.
Speaker 4: I don't like seeing, you know what I'm seeing from
Speaker 4: the backups right now. There was a lot of pressure
Speaker 4: on those backups today. A lot of run plays that
Speaker 4: got blown up. I'm not confident in that backup group
Speaker 4: right now, but getting those guys back, it does seem
Speaker 4: like Sean believe they're going to get them back at
Speaker 4: some point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that would be a massive injury. It's
Speaker 1: so crazy to think about the rams and I think
Speaker 1: just like going big picture, not just about what we
Speaker 1: saw today. Although the offense got plenty of wins, you
Speaker 1: might say you didn't like what they you saw and
Speaker 1: there was a lot of pressure on Matthew Stafford. But
Speaker 1: let's just say that they looked a lot better than
Speaker 1: the Charters offense on Monday that I was witnessing, like
Speaker 1: Puko is making play after play, Cooper Cup was open
Speaker 1: all day. Matthew Stafford is getting a lot of hoots
Speaker 1: from his teammates because he's you know, dodging defenders and
Speaker 1: making people miss and throwing spin moves out and doing
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford things. So the offense look pretty good on balance,
Speaker 1: But it is crazy to think the way this Rams
Speaker 1: team has evolved since you've started covering them that now
Speaker 1: the offensive line is just a huge part of their identity.
Speaker 1: How nasty they are, and they kind of need that.
Speaker 1: They need that group to be great to do what
Speaker 1: they want to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Matthew Stafford staying upright is literally the key to
Speaker 4: this season going the way that the Rams wanted to go.
Speaker 4: They have extremely high hopes and high aspirations for themselves.
Speaker 4: It's whispered about in this building here and there about
Speaker 4: what they believe they're potentially capable of doing.
Speaker 5: And they had a lot.
Speaker 4: Of momentum, sorry, momentum going into the end of last
Speaker 4: season before that Detroit Lions loss, and this this offensive
Speaker 4: line is was planning on moving people, on running whatever
Speaker 4: the heck run concept they want it to run, not
Speaker 4: staying in a world of mid zone and outside zone,
Speaker 4: which you know, not stretching the field wide, going right
Speaker 4: at your face if they needed to, and also protecting
Speaker 4: matt Stafford entering his sixteenth season. They got the Stafford
Speaker 4: deal done and he's out here dealing. This was his
Speaker 4: best day so far. Now, granted, the first two days
Speaker 4: he was out here and the first two pads days
Speaker 4: it was a very run heavy installation day, so less juice,
Speaker 4: less energy. I thought they looked flat on Tuesday, and
Speaker 4: then they came out here. Someone said something to someone
Speaker 4: because they came out here and Matthew Stafford played what
Speaker 4: I politely call his very particular brand of fu football,
Speaker 4: and guys are getting open for him and he can
Speaker 4: still sling it around.
Speaker 1: It was awesome to watch, just like that high.
Speaker 5: It doesn't get old. He can throw that high.
Speaker 1: Level of skill between him Pooka and now that Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup is looking like Cooper Cup. That feels like one
Speaker 1: of the big takeaways from camp. Just you know, cross
Speaker 1: your fingers. But he just I'm guessing at no point
Speaker 1: last year he certainly didn't ever on the field in
Speaker 1: a regular game ever, really look like the guy that
Speaker 1: we've seen dominate the league. Maybe he hasn't quite looked
Speaker 1: like that for a couple of years, but he looks
Speaker 1: different this year.
Speaker 4: You're saying, yeah, one day, Cooper Cup looked like Cooper
Speaker 4: Cup last year. And it was the first joint practice
Speaker 4: between the Rams and the Denver Broncos in Denver. And
Speaker 4: then he heard his hamstring again, and so that one
Speaker 4: day is now carrying over and over and over and over.
Speaker 4: He looks like that. It's it's you know, he's crossing
Speaker 4: thirties past thirty this this season. When the season starts,
Speaker 4: we know about the injury history, we know at what
Speaker 4: point receivers start to drop off. But when I watched
Speaker 4: these practices, this is the best time a year for
Speaker 4: me because we get to be right on the sideline
Speaker 4: up close.
Speaker 5: Obviously I didn't even know where you were.
Speaker 1: Where's George?
Speaker 5: He lost me multiple times.
Speaker 4: I was over in the back corner of the end
Speaker 4: zone when they were working, when they were working on
Speaker 4: red zone, I was watching Cooper literally in his cut split,
Speaker 4: moving an inch to the right because that movement, you know,
Speaker 4: resetting it and making sure he was right on the
Speaker 4: detail of the space he needed to be on pre snap.
Speaker 4: And then that play ended up springing DeMarcus Robinson loose
Speaker 4: for a big catch in the end zone. And it's
Speaker 4: just those little tiny details. But then also he like
Speaker 4: broad step against Quentin Lake. It almost was like a
Speaker 4: heavy but it wasn't. But it was like almost like
Speaker 4: that at the beginning of his route in order to
Speaker 4: catch that you know, that high flying leap that he
Speaker 4: made in the back of the end zone. And you
Speaker 4: didn't see him pushing his body like this last year
Speaker 4: when I saw him take those strides the way that
Speaker 4: he did in that one particular play, you just never
Speaker 4: saw that last year. He was so worried about his body,
Speaker 4: and for good reason, because it just wasn't right last year.
Speaker 1: Yet he skied for what would have been a touchdown,
Speaker 1: but he only got one foot down. But I think
Speaker 1: I got I was like the only play I recorded.
Speaker 1: I fanned out, I guess, and recorded one play the
Speaker 1: whole practice and that was it. So I got some
Speaker 1: ig heat coming.
Speaker 4: Maybe I hope it luck because dart to the neck.
Speaker 4: These guys don't let you report or record scheme. I'm
Speaker 4: going to give you a lot of scheme.
Speaker 1: It's just him jumping in the end zone or whatever.
Speaker 1: But he also had another play where Stafford was scrambling around,
Speaker 1: and like I said, Stafford looked very mobile today. And
Speaker 1: he comes back to the ball on, you know, to
Speaker 1: get it close to the end zone. That to me,
Speaker 1: that was just such a Cooper Cup and Stafford no
Speaker 1: each other is doing. But then you also have for
Speaker 1: the first time healthy Gooper Cup next to the best
Speaker 1: receiver on the team. I'm just going to assume Pooka
Speaker 1: Akua is the best receiver on the team. He looks
Speaker 1: extremely quick. Everything's going to him, and those two together
Speaker 1: that special. Let's talk about the defense before we go,
Speaker 1: because it is it's such a weird thing to expect
Speaker 1: a defense that loses Aaron Donald to get better, or
Speaker 1: that loses Raheem Morris to get better. But it is
Speaker 1: kind of year two of this rebuild with the defense,
Speaker 1: and there are some reasons, i think to believe that
Speaker 1: they can be at least where they were last year
Speaker 1: or maybe better. Like what stood out to you from
Speaker 1: the defense sos far well, the.
Speaker 4: Defense has been feeling themselves a little bit through the
Speaker 4: first part of camp, particularly when the pads got on.
Speaker 5: They've been making plays.
Speaker 4: They've been getting into the backfield on a lot of
Speaker 4: these run plays Byron Young was really active today, both
Speaker 4: you know, in the pass rush, but then also he
Speaker 4: was getting out into the flat on some of those
Speaker 4: little underneath plays and some of those checkdowns to Kyroen
Speaker 4: Waban he.
Speaker 1: Took out Blake Korum mean, actually, we saw a nice
Speaker 1: moment here by the set as Blake was leaving the
Speaker 1: field and he he came over young came over to
Speaker 1: him and it was just apologizing PROFUSI like, I would
Speaker 1: never mean to do that, man, and I didn't do
Speaker 1: that on purpose, and Blake was kind of like, yeah, okay, man,
Speaker 1: but this was still yeah.
Speaker 4: The Byron has a good saying. They got it from
Speaker 4: a team meeting where you're not gonna make it. You
Speaker 4: don't have any enemies on your own sideline, and so
Speaker 4: it's basically reminding them. Because the defense came out so
Speaker 4: fired up the last couple of days, there were some
Speaker 4: moments where you thought, oh, could this boil over. It's
Speaker 4: a young group. It's a lot of new guys mixing
Speaker 4: with guys who are now in their second year, their
Speaker 4: third year, and then a couple of vets, especially on
Speaker 4: the back end.
Speaker 5: I think Trey White looks great.
Speaker 4: Some of the plays today that Matthew Stafford made against him.
Speaker 4: Only two quarterbacks maybe in the league could fit the
Speaker 4: ball where they fit it. The other being Pat Mahomes
Speaker 4: when Cooper cup was was kind of in that he
Speaker 4: was doubled back there in that back corner and then
Speaker 4: Trey let another one go through. But it was it
Speaker 4: was in basically, there's nothing you could do about it. It
Speaker 4: was one of those where you just shrug your shoulders
Speaker 4: and the and the DB's coach comes over and congratulates
Speaker 4: Cooper because there's nothing you can do about it. And so,
Speaker 4: but I think Trey White looks really good. They obviously
Speaker 4: miss Darius Williams had the had the hamstring issue. They
Speaker 4: do expect him to be back at some point as well.
Speaker 4: But yeah, this this is a really scrappy young defense.
Speaker 4: They're fired up about life. It's kind of energizing to
Speaker 4: be to be out here listening to them talk to
Speaker 4: each other. Braden Fisk does not look like a second
Speaker 4: round pick at all to me so far. His hands
Speaker 4: are good, his feet are great. When the pads came on,
Speaker 4: he validated all of those better so far. It's different positions,
Speaker 4: you know, so I think they've been you know, you
Speaker 4: know me, I don't like comps, right like I don't
Speaker 4: like rankings or comps, And it's different so obviously for
Speaker 4: the listener, Jared versus playing.
Speaker 1: Where I am? You know, just a bunch of ranthing.
Speaker 1: Jared versys to calm down a little bit, though he
Speaker 1: ran right through Stafford hit him fairly hard today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got to pull it back.
Speaker 1: That was just the dicey moment. Stafford got out, just
Speaker 1: not looking old or anything, but looking like he just
Speaker 1: got run over by a two hundred and seventy pound guy.
Speaker 4: And I'm just that's what a first round pick looks like.
Speaker 1: Right, But also just like that, you do not want
Speaker 1: to do that. It could have gone very poorly. I'm
Speaker 1: worried about the defensive coordinator change, but talent wise, I'm
Speaker 1: with you. I kept my eyes on Trey White, who
Speaker 1: just was not healthy at all the last two years
Speaker 1: in Buffalo and could be a big difference maker. And
Speaker 1: then Cam Curl was a big addition at safety coming
Speaker 1: off a really good season with Washington. Good player and
Speaker 1: the two point conversion that the Rams tried today and
Speaker 1: was unsuccessful. If I was reading the play right, and
Speaker 1: I think I was, Curl really took away where Stafford
Speaker 1: wanted to go on that play and it was unsuccessful
Speaker 1: and the defense went absolutely crazy, and Sean McVay was
Speaker 1: not happy about, you know, the offense not getting it,
Speaker 1: but that was like what a heady older safety is
Speaker 1: going to do. So that's interesting what you said about
Speaker 1: the whispering in the building of what they think they
Speaker 1: can accomplish. I mean, I guess we can guess, Hugh
Speaker 1: je expect to win a Super Bowl. They think they
Speaker 1: can do that.
Speaker 4: This team thinks that if they can stay healthy, that's
Speaker 4: being the key, and we're going to go to if
Speaker 4: then my if then for the Rams, if they can
Speaker 4: keep Matthew Stafford healthy, then this team believes that they
Speaker 4: are Super Bowl contenders.
Speaker 1: M I believe it. Why not in this NFC they
Speaker 1: look like it. At the end of last year they
Speaker 1: had a chance, and yeah, it's no fun losing Donald,
Speaker 1: But I think for the most part, this is a
Speaker 1: really young team with a couple key older guys sprinkled in,
Speaker 1: but for the most part, it's one of the youngest
Speaker 1: teams in the league. That's our RAMS talk. But we're
Speaker 1: not done with Rams talk. We are going to hear
Speaker 1: from Kobe Turner, the conductor and Steve Avula, one of
Speaker 1: the best young offensive linemen in the league. Left handed
Speaker 1: who just happened to be best friends are good friends.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm saying best friends, but that
Speaker 1: they're friends. You can as it was fun sitting down
Speaker 1: with them. Let's take a lesson. That's good. You gave
Speaker 1: us our sound check for us. I love it all right,
Speaker 1: let's get going. Oh, sure, there you go.
Speaker 6: Wait did you hear the sound of that? That sounded
Speaker 6: like the start of a dreams by?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: He wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Let's just start the interview that way. We're keeping this
Speaker 1: out here with Kobe Turner and Steve Ovula.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 1: Right, you're a star. You're not if it was your
Speaker 1: rookie year, but you're the center. You had a great
Speaker 1: rookie season. And before we even started talking, you come
Speaker 1: over to me and you're like, oh, Erica said, you're
Speaker 1: the little one.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know. I told her.
Speaker 3: She was like, yeah, just say it.
Speaker 7: I'm like, dude, I don't want like, am I gonna offense?
Speaker 7: I don't want to anybody. You gotta let me know
Speaker 7: what the inside joke.
Speaker 1: There's not an inside joke. She made that up, but
Speaker 1: just no, that's Erica. But she's right. I'm standing sitting
Speaker 1: next to two large humans who has great rookie seasons
Speaker 1: and from what I can tell, our good buddies. Kobe
Speaker 1: Turner gave out, what just because the rookie class, you
Speaker 1: guys bonded.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it kind of start. I mean we
Speaker 7: have our lockers are right next to each other there.
Speaker 7: But I mean off Rip, I mean I just knew
Speaker 7: I could feel, you know, just the energy that he brings.
Speaker 7: I feel like we're kind of like each other in
Speaker 7: a lot of ways. So I mean it also helps,
Speaker 7: you know, going against each other every day. But I
Speaker 7: mean the whole rooky class last year, I mean we
Speaker 7: were bonding over the things we were going through, just
Speaker 7: you know, with adjusting to a lot of things, just
Speaker 7: the coaching staff adjusting two different experiences.
Speaker 2: So it was cool.
Speaker 1: I like how you wanted to kind of interview voice
Speaker 1: there because you were like so live and so I
Speaker 1: was very professional now in a good way, in a way.
Speaker 1: I liked you came over and that's what I was
Speaker 1: talking about, Kobe. You seemed really excited, so for everyone listening.
Speaker 1: Kobe Turner, of course, one of the defensive Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year candidates last year, the conductor my friend JB.
Speaker 1: Long nicknamed you I Belie, and you were really excited
Speaker 1: because today was your first day. I think back out
Speaker 1: at practice, how did that go? How did your your
Speaker 1: matchups go?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 3: It was so much fun.
Speaker 6: Like I'm not somebody who takes for granted things, but
Speaker 6: I mean every step of the way, I would be
Speaker 6: dressed up for walkthrough and it's everybody else's down day.
Speaker 6: It's like third day, and I'm like, oooh, I'm out
Speaker 6: there with the ones today even though it's chogged through,
Speaker 6: or oh I get to put on my pads and
Speaker 6: I haven't put on my pads yet, but everybody else
Speaker 6: has been practicing, and then today to be able to
Speaker 6: put it all together. You know, I'm still not getting
Speaker 6: the full snap count yet, but that'll be picking up
Speaker 6: in the next couple of days. But it's just such
Speaker 6: a blessing to be back out here with the guys.
Speaker 1: And you guys seem competitive because you were saying, Steve,
Speaker 1: like you guys on the offense needed to bring the
Speaker 1: energy a little bit more, which I'm surprised having watched
Speaker 1: the defense got their wins early but the offense got
Speaker 1: their wins late.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's something that Sean emphasizes
Speaker 7: a lot. There's a lot of acronyms that he uses,
Speaker 7: but I know one of them has to do with energy,
Speaker 7: and I did feel like the defense brought it today.
Speaker 7: But you know, that's something that we definitely need to
Speaker 7: work on because I feel I mean, it's a long season,
Speaker 7: you know, so we definitely needed through the games.
Speaker 2: But I feel like overall it was a good practice.
Speaker 7: It was also it was nice having him back out there,
Speaker 7: so that's another person to get me better.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's really good to be able to go
Speaker 3: back and forth.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's the sign of a good team, in
Speaker 6: my opinion, is that no one day dominates the entire day.
Speaker 6: It's about how you respond and whether that be play
Speaker 6: the play basis, uh, series of series basis, and so
Speaker 6: to be able to go out there and see the
Speaker 6: back and forth, uh, that leads to bigger energy on
Speaker 6: both sides, right, because it's an actual competition.
Speaker 7: It's not just one side dog walking the other. The
Speaker 7: entire I feel, I mean that similates a game. I mean,
Speaker 7: we've been in a lot of different instances. I feel
Speaker 7: like this past year, like when we were playing the Colts,
Speaker 7: bro like we were up by so much and then
Speaker 7: towards the end it was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh my gosh. The same thing with the.
Speaker 7: Ro the same thing with the commanders.
Speaker 1: That it seemed like Robert when when the defense broke
Speaker 1: up at two point play at practice today, like Sean
Speaker 1: McVay almost sounded like he was talking trash to the defense,
Speaker 1: almost that he was upset. Does that annoy you as
Speaker 1: a defensive player that like he doesn't seem to be
Speaker 1: rooting for y'all.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, not at all.
Speaker 6: Like Sean is, he's a head coach, so you know,
Speaker 6: whichever way the day goes, he wins.
Speaker 2: You know, his.
Speaker 3: Office and defense.
Speaker 6: But it's good because I'm pretty sure he's a play caller, right,
Speaker 6: So it's good to have that like little competition. And
Speaker 6: even with the head coach would be like I knew
Speaker 6: that one was coming. Or sometimes we'll be talking on
Speaker 6: the sideline and I'll call out his plays or something
Speaker 6: like that, and.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, Okay, I was thinking about the identity
Speaker 1: of this team that you guys have. Because you have
Speaker 1: you're such a young team. You guys are great representatives
Speaker 1: of that too. Kind of I think of now Core Rams,
Speaker 1: young starters, but you also have obviously the veterans like
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. You have Tredevius White now coming in, but
Speaker 1: you no longer have Aaron Donald here, Like, how do
Speaker 1: you see the identity of this Rams team now that
Speaker 1: now that the younger guys have some some miles.
Speaker 7: Under Yeah, I mean I feel like me and him
Speaker 7: definitely had a lot of talks this offseason just with
Speaker 7: the understanding and realization of those people are leaving, you know,
Speaker 7: I mean this is our second year. Uh, you know,
Speaker 7: I've set this for myself as well. I mean, you know,
Speaker 7: you have to be a leader. I feel like a
Speaker 7: lot of the reason why we had success last year
Speaker 7: is because the coaches trusted us, and I feel like
Speaker 7: the coaches me being moved to center was also another
Speaker 7: indicated that the coaches trust me. So I feel like
Speaker 7: that will put me more in a leadership role. Overall,
Speaker 7: I feel like I'd have to earn that, you know,
Speaker 7: respect for my teammates. And I'm sure the same thing
Speaker 7: you know for you with ad departying and stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like a it's an everyday quest to just
Speaker 6: keep getting better and better and better and to keep
Speaker 6: bringing people to what I know and what I've experienced,
Speaker 6: and I haven't experienced much of anything, Like I'm only
Speaker 6: a rookie, but to keep bringing people along and keep
Speaker 6: only a rookie until we get some games under our
Speaker 6: belt this season. But to just keep bringing those guys
Speaker 6: along and you know, hoping that the work ethic that
Speaker 6: I exemplify, my process is something that's worth following. But
Speaker 6: we have so many great leaders on this team, and
Speaker 6: even just thinking defensively like a d left. But at
Speaker 6: the same time, you have guys like Ernest Jones, who's
Speaker 6: just like the heart of the defense, the true heart
Speaker 6: and soul of the defense, and that makes it easier
Speaker 6: also to lead my respective group up under, you know,
Speaker 6: and and learning and kind of uh using his leadership
Speaker 6: also as as fuel for that as well. And then
Speaker 6: you got got guys like Tradevius White who comes in
Speaker 6: and he's just a natural leader.
Speaker 3: He's only been here, you know since the.
Speaker 1: Spring, but he was talking like the photographer on the side.
Speaker 6: He might be playing around, I don't know, but yeah,
Speaker 6: we have a lot of good guys and a lot
Speaker 6: of just strong character, uh a strong leadership guys, and
Speaker 6: you know, we're all building this up together. Now everybody
Speaker 6: has a piece of the puzzle and we're all putting
Speaker 6: it together.
Speaker 2: I feel like one thing, and I'm sorry, I don't
Speaker 2: mean that.
Speaker 1: It's good.
Speaker 7: I feel like one thing for us last year is
Speaker 7: just the relationships that we had. You know, when you
Speaker 7: have siblings, man, you'll fight all the time. And that's
Speaker 7: how I kind of try to approach practice. Like there
Speaker 7: was talking, just talking all the time, like on the field,
Speaker 7: and I tried my best not to take it to
Speaker 7: heart because at the end of the day, you know,
Speaker 7: we're on the field, you know, leave everything on the field.
Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, man, like we're
Speaker 7: all like teammates, you know, we're all brothers, and that's
Speaker 7: you know, how we how we treat each other. So
Speaker 7: we haven't had any thing go on in the locker room,
Speaker 7: and I feel like everything has been focused on trying
Speaker 7: to win games and trying to do it with the
Speaker 7: person next to you.
Speaker 1: Is there something you learn from Aaron specifically just being
Speaker 1: next to him. It must have been. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was intimidating at first, just coming into the league,
Speaker 1: and you I know it's different with Rob Havnstein, but
Speaker 1: I think of they were both on the Saint Louis Rams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now they're here. They've obviously won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You guys had that success that you had last year, Like,
Speaker 1: what was it like and was there something you took
Speaker 1: from being next to those guys?
Speaker 6: So first of all, it was a little intimidating to start, Like,
Speaker 6: I don't think I was looking him in the eyes
Speaker 6: in the huddle till like week seven, maybe like after
Speaker 6: I started making a couple of plays or something like that.
Speaker 6: But no, I think the thing that I appreciated the
Speaker 6: most about him was his process. And he was a
Speaker 6: man of like few words, but when he said something,
Speaker 6: he meant it. But to be able to have the
Speaker 6: impact that he had where people were following him just
Speaker 6: strictly off of this is the work that I'm putting in.
Speaker 6: You guys see what I'm putting in, and if it's
Speaker 6: worthy of being followed, then you guys are going to
Speaker 6: follow me. And that's something that I kind of try
Speaker 6: to model the way in as well. If my process
Speaker 6: is worthy of being followed, then it doesn't matter what
Speaker 6: words I say, and obviously I can you know, my
Speaker 6: personality lends itself a little bit more vocal leadership, but regardless,
Speaker 6: like my if my example is worthy of being followed,
Speaker 6: then people will.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And for Rob, I mean I feel like it's a
Speaker 7: lot of the same thing. I mean they've been through
Speaker 7: a lot, man, you know, when you're part of a
Speaker 7: team for that long, you know, you go through ups
Speaker 7: and downs and you just I mean he's learned from
Speaker 7: people too. I mean Wit was on the team, so
Speaker 7: that's some knowledge from Wit that Rob you know, eventually,
Speaker 7: you know, passes down to us.
Speaker 2: But that was one of the.
Speaker 7: First people, you know, he has. He was actually one
Speaker 7: of the first people to text me when I got drafted.
Speaker 7: I remember that. But you know, I've always tried to
Speaker 7: learn under him. I remember one of the best things
Speaker 7: he told me. I was so nervous before this first game.
Speaker 7: He was like, you know, the difference between college and
Speaker 7: the NFL. And he was I was like what, and
Speaker 7: he was like nothing, you know, it's football and it's
Speaker 7: so simple. But like to know that he could, you know,
Speaker 7: give me that advice. You know, it really called me
Speaker 7: for that game. And there's a lot of different stuff
Speaker 7: that he tells me, you know, during practice, during the
Speaker 7: meeting time, in the you know, weight room everything.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm just glad that I have someone.
Speaker 1: Like him, who's someone you I like going against. That's
Speaker 1: a good challenge, not on this team necessarily like on
Speaker 1: another team. Yeah that you played against that, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying they gave you the business, but a good battle
Speaker 1: back and forth. And it was same for you too.
Speaker 7: Uh for me, there's okay, people ask me who's the
Speaker 7: best person I go against. I feel like I kind
Speaker 7: of categorize defenses, you know, and I know that uh
Speaker 7: Dallas was was a good matchup for all of us.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: I've learned a lot about myself, you know that game.
Speaker 7: But I will say, you know, Jonathan Allen had this
Speaker 7: one move that he does on offensive lineman I have
Speaker 7: never seen in my life, you know. Yeah, and like
Speaker 7: I have, I've seen it, I've never gone against it.
Speaker 2: So it took me. It was a process, you know,
Speaker 2: in the game.
Speaker 7: And I feel like Sean talks about having a growth mindset,
Speaker 7: and you know, that's what I have to have during
Speaker 7: that game to make adjustments, you know, to figure out
Speaker 7: what to do against that move.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: But I feel like that was one of the h
Speaker 7: That was a good game and it definitely, you know,
Speaker 7: boosted my confidence to know that I can lock in
Speaker 7: you know, mid game and and and try to establish
Speaker 7: myself to figure out what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: He's nasty, who's an offensive lineman, Kobe that that's tough.
Speaker 1: So other than other than your body.
Speaker 6: Here right aside from our team, Uh, we faced a
Speaker 6: good couple. But I think some of the best battles
Speaker 6: that I've had have been against.
Speaker 3: Is it Chris Lindenbaum from the Ravens the center?
Speaker 2: Yeahland Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 6: That was one of the games where I look back
Speaker 6: and I'm like, that was just like good work, and
Speaker 6: I know he's a respectable center in this league, and
Speaker 6: I felt like there's a good back and forth. And
Speaker 6: then I'm excited for Week one too, uh to be
Speaker 6: able to go back and see Frank rag now again.
Speaker 6: You know, of course one of the top old linemen
Speaker 6: in the league, one of the top centers, and you know,
Speaker 6: there's just certain things going into that game where it's
Speaker 6: like you gotta gotta lock in. See this he blocks
Speaker 6: a different way and picked up some wins and and
Speaker 6: took some losses.
Speaker 3: But it was a really good battle. So looking forward
Speaker 3: to that as well.
Speaker 1: Last thing I'll leave you with, My daughter, Ellis is
Speaker 1: a huge RAMS fan.
Speaker 7: Okay, are you help me on the spot?
Speaker 1: That's my girl. So I'm rooting for her happiness. But
Speaker 1: I grew up in Massachusetts and now you know, I
Speaker 1: got this, I got this logo on, so I'm not
Speaker 1: supposed to be rooting. But of course I want my
Speaker 1: daughter to be happy. So they gave her a moment
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl that I'll never forget. It came
Speaker 1: out of her eyes. So so can you can you
Speaker 1: give her some optimism about these twenty twenty four Rams
Speaker 1: that you're gonna You're gonna speak to her and give
Speaker 1: her some great man.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, I feel like a couple of things you'll
Speaker 2: get out of us. You know. One, you're rooting for
Speaker 2: some great guys. That's number one. You're rooting for some
Speaker 2: great guys.
Speaker 7: And two, you're rooting for some guys that are gonna
Speaker 7: give it all every play, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that the work that we put in is
Speaker 6: something that's every day, you know, growing and going in
Speaker 6: the right trajectory. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: we all realize that we are one team, and we
Speaker 6: are one unit and We truly are our brotherhood in
Speaker 6: more ways than just words and uh and more than
Speaker 6: just cliches. And so when when you see us out
Speaker 6: there during the season, it's gonna be twenty two playing
Speaker 6: is one this entire time.
Speaker 1: She's twelve.
Speaker 7: She can understand it, right, Like, I don't know why
Speaker 7: I was thinking like time, I'm like, she's over here
Speaker 7: running the book.
Speaker 2: They call them.
Speaker 1: I can see that. I know you got the vocal
Speaker 1: range and you might have like a career in politics
Speaker 1: with that voice. All right, that's Kobe Turner and then
Speaker 1: Steve Avula, second year players of the Los Angeles Rams. Okay,
Speaker 1: wrapping the show up here. That was a fun one.
Speaker 1: That was a lot. We got a game, we got injuries,
Speaker 1: we played a game, We got the Rams. Kobe Turner
Speaker 1: and Steve Ovula were great, and we appreciate everyone that
Speaker 1: has been listening to NFL Daily. This is our fourth
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Speaker 1: We are gonna be back on Monday morning. First thing
Speaker 1: in your podcast feed, Nick, Chuck and I are going
Speaker 1: to go through the entire AFC and we're gonna do
Speaker 1: the same for the NFC the following day with Jordan.
Speaker 1: Really get you caught up on all the camp takeaways,
Speaker 1: the nuggets. It is really picking up now until then,
Speaker 1: see you next time.