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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where not only football is back,

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Speaker 1: but my tortoise, Norri's back too. More on that in

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Speaker 1: a bit fun show today. We were at Rams camp

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Speaker 1: at Loyola Merrymount earlier and Jordan Rodrigue of the Athletic

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Speaker 1: joined me. We played a fun if then game about

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Speaker 1: the whole league, like if Rashad Bateman stings healthy, you

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Speaker 1: know that man is getting a thousand yards this year.

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Speaker 1: Then we talked a little bit about the Rams practice

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Speaker 1: that we watched and about the team this year, and

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Speaker 1: then finally wrapped it up with a fun interview with

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Speaker 1: defensive Rookie of the Year runner up Kobe Turner and

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Speaker 1: emerging Rams second year center Steve Agula. Who are buddies,

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say it, they were delight They were

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Speaker 1: delightful people. But I'm adding this to the top of

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Speaker 1: the show because we got a sneaky amount of news

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Speaker 1: and a game to talk. Yeah, football is back, Randy,

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Speaker 1: hit the news drop, Okay, So I will get to

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game soon.

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Speaker 2: That was the plan.

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Speaker 1: We just got to take two minutes at the top

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Speaker 1: to cover a little Hall of Fame game and feel

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Speaker 1: as fresh as you can when you listen to this,

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Speaker 1: but look, that game is never going to end. It's

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Speaker 1: technically going on forever. And then suddenly this afternoon became

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Speaker 1: the biggest day of news we've really had in training camp.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to go over the big stuff first.

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Speaker 1: This Justin Herbert foot injury is a bummer. He has

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Speaker 1: an injury to his planter fascia, so he will be

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Speaker 1: in a walking boot for two weeks, but the team

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Speaker 1: has publicly said the expectation is he will be ready

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Speaker 1: for Week one against the Raiders. Very very interesting by

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Speaker 1: the Chargers how much information they did gave give after

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh was giving no information in terms of injuries

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Speaker 1: just earlier this week. So there's an important distinction to

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Speaker 1: not the same, according to medical experts, as having planter paschitis,

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Speaker 1: and so there's a hope here that this injury is

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Speaker 1: not something that drags his whole season down as he

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Speaker 1: plays through pain. As we've seen with planter phauschitis over

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Speaker 1: and over. It's a really terrible injury. So that's the

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Speaker 1: hope because I've seen enough Justin Herbert playing through injuries

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Speaker 1: over the last few years, and it's just not fun.

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Speaker 1: And maybe being in a walking boot for a couple

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Speaker 1: We will see, because it should go without saying. This

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Speaker 1: team just cannot compete without him. We were at practice

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Speaker 1: on Monday. The difference between East and Stick is like

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Speaker 1: the difference between me and Kobe Turner and Steve Avola.

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Speaker 1: If you check out my socials, I look like a

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Speaker 1: tiny little baby next to these men. And so I

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Speaker 1: think even with East and Stick running the offense in

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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, it's gonna make it harder

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Speaker 1: to install the offense and get the receivers good reps.

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Speaker 1: But hopefully Herbert can come back. I'm gonna be optimistic. Also,

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Speaker 1: hert DeAndre Hopkins of the Titans is out about four

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Speaker 1: weeks with a knee injury. According to our NFL Network

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Speaker 1: reporter Tom Pellasero, that four weeks number is so definitive

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Speaker 1: that that gets him back before the season, But a

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Speaker 1: knee injury to a receiver his age obviously a big

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Speaker 1: concern that he won't be one hundred percent right this season.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully they're being extra careful they are deeper than they

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Speaker 1: Hopkins should be better, but it's a concern. Also a concern.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, we wish you know the best. We ask

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Speaker 1: everyone to send their thoughts, their best thoughts to the

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Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest Bucks were in the news today made Tristan

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Speaker 1: Wurf's the highest paid tackle in the league. On the

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Speaker 1: up with the Hall of Fame game. This was fun.

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Speaker 1: It got stopped midway through the third quarter, which you know,

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Speaker 1: Roshawn Johnson. The Bears receiver Colin Johnson, who was once

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Speaker 1: His numbers don't look amazing, but this is a guy

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Speaker 1: the kickoff rule, the dynamic kickoff, that was really the

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Speaker 1: story all season. It looked weird. I don't think teams

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Speaker 1: is going to be interesting. And yeah, that's it for

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Speaker 1: will cover all those on NFL Daily. And finally, thank

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Speaker 1: you to everyone who really cared about my tortoise, Nori,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the rest of the show.

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Speaker 1: This was fun. Jordan and I are gonna play a

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Speaker 1: little game off the top, and then, like I said,

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Speaker 1: we will get to some RAMS coverage. I will be

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Speaker 1: down at Saints camp on Friday, not doing that for

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Speaker 1: NFL Daily, but if you're watching NFL Network, I'll be

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Speaker 1: on Inside Training Camp Live. We will be back with

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Speaker 1: NFL Daily Monday, morning, covering every team in the AFC

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Speaker 1: with Camp notes with Nick Schuk and in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: I'll throw it to myself in Jordan. All right, excited

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Speaker 1: to be welcoming in Jordan Rodrigue, our friend, our coworker.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm using the Royal Wei, but

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Speaker 1: I'm speaking for Randy and Jason, Drake and Cynthia, the

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Speaker 1: whole crew we have out here at RAMS Camp, your home,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to some Rams talk. Jordan, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 4: Greg, Welcome to my domain. Doesn't the grass smell amazing?

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Speaker 1: It is really nice?

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Speaker 5: Totally our first take doing this.

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Speaker 1: It was it was not Sonny before while they were practicing.

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Speaker 1: Nicely cool. You got the ocean breeze. It is great.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm insane for wearing a jacket. It was

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Speaker 4: about to rain a second ago, but I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 1: Yes, everyone should check out the YouTube version of this show,

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Speaker 1: like subscribe. We could use the help there because you

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Speaker 1: can find Sean McVay and Jordan talking in depth right

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Speaker 1: behind my interview that's coming up a little later in

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Speaker 1: the show with Steve Avula and Kobe Turner. But first,

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Speaker 1: a game. It's gonna be a fun game, and Randy

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Speaker 1: then proposition. You came up with this idea, Why don't

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Speaker 1: It's a great one.

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Speaker 4: It's a great one, as you after you sent me

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Speaker 4: a very strange photo of Skip Bayless without any context

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Speaker 1: It was just a funny tweet. If you saw the tweet,

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Speaker 5: It was a candid It was a candid shot.

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Speaker 4: If then the concept is literally what it sounds like.

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Speaker 4: If X happens, then I believe why will happen? Yes,

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Speaker 4: so these are takes, but there takes with steaks because

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Speaker 4: to go off once we run out of time, yes.

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Speaker 1: Thirty seconds. So we wanted to get as many teams

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Speaker 1: takes as we could in the show. Great analysis. Why

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Speaker 1: don't you kick us off? Are you ready? Jordan?

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Speaker 5: I'm ready? You let me know when the clock starts, right.

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Speaker 1: Let's start the clock, Randy, Let's go.

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Speaker 4: Okay, if Tajy Spears and Tony Pollard can stay healthy,

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Speaker 4: then I think the Titans have a top five rushing

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Speaker 4: And I just think that this could potentially.

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Speaker 5: Be a top Oh see.

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Speaker 4: This is the good thing about this because I ramble,

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Speaker 4: So we actually started this is a this is we

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Speaker 4: actually started this idea because we both honk.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you ramble, but yeah, we're both big

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Speaker 1: time honkers. Sometimes we need to be a little more concise.

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Speaker 1: And nothing like allowed airhorn to motivate us. I thought

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Speaker 1: No, I'm joking because I am a chronic overtalker. Let's go.

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Speaker 4: If quote unquote the media is finally tired of quarterback

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Speaker 5: So let's not let's not get crazy here.

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Speaker 4: Second, you basically what you basically did was you proverbially

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Speaker 1: Just now. It was just a realization that the Russell

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Speaker 1: But he's gonna make a efficient offense, all right, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: If the Giants dropped four of their first six, then

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Speaker 4: The reason I say this is cleanhouse slash blow things

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Speaker 1: All right, I guess we have to move on. But

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Speaker 4: Rickety one more point, please please, yes, I brought you

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Speaker 1: Coach Hm just got in there. I agree, we're going

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Speaker 1: Take a lot of buzz, a lot of Dolphins. I

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Speaker 5: My next start the clock, Randy. Okay.

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Speaker 4: If Russell Wilson misses much longer I guess he did

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Speaker 4: He's gonna love the dynamic playmaking ability of Justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: But that was the most perfect one. I can can't

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Speaker 5: Again, I have nothing to add.

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Speaker 1: but I went and watched and when Tyreek Kill did it,

436
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Speaker 1: they timed it up perfectly. He wasn't moving forward and

437
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: the only times players probably were moving forward it was

438
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Speaker 1: like half a step and they just didn't time it right.

439
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Speaker 1: But in that's the rule.

440
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Speaker 4: Chain has more to do with players, skill players who

441
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Speaker 4: are vacillating between a two point stance and a three

442
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Speaker 4: point stance, which one coach described to me as what

443
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Speaker 4: are we returning to f N nineteen sixties football, which

444
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 4: for those skill players that's just not something that comes

445
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Speaker 4: up very much, for specifically wide outs people like that.

446
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 4: So this is not that actual. The actual rule change

447
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Speaker 4: was more pertaining. This is how it's explained to me

448
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Speaker 4: by the crew and by people I talked to here

449
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Speaker 4: today at Thursday at RAMS camp. This was more to

450
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Speaker 4: do with that part of it. Now, the motion can

451
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Speaker 4: still be used, so cheat motion or fast exit motion,

452
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Speaker 4: and the Dolphins have a really funny name for it

453
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Speaker 4: that I don't think I can use without Randy bleeping out.

454
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Speaker 4: But the short fast exit motion that you saw Tyreek

455
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Speaker 4: Hill and other players across the league really excel with

456
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Speaker 4: that can still happen. It's just the rules are still

457
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Speaker 4: the same for that motion. You have to time the

458
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Speaker 4: snap perfectly with the receiver in order to get upfield

459
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Speaker 4: at the snap. Cannot get upfield before the snap.

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Speaker 1: I thought Randy was going to hit you with the

461
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Speaker 1: horn there.

462
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Speaker 4: You were trying to go to him into hitting me

463
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Speaker 4: with the horn, and I'm like, so upset.

464
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Speaker 1: With you, dare you? I just thought it'd be funny.

465
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Speaker 1: I just thought it'd be funny. It was a time out,

466
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Speaker 1: So I'm just breaking all the roals. No, it's badass.

467
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Speaker 1: I mean you were talking, thank you, my hero. You're

468
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: talking to you're you're a real Capital R reporter. You're

469
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Speaker 1: talking to the officials. You have this conversation that's going

470
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Speaker 1: on with Sean McVay right behind me, getting into the weeds.

471
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Speaker 4: Just like a sasquatch side. I was behind your interview, just.

472
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Speaker 1: Just trying to understand this rule. Do you want to

473
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Speaker 1: throw out one more if then? Or you want me to?

474
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: I want to.

475
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Speaker 5: I want you too. You have some good ones.

476
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Speaker 1: Let's go. If if Marvin Harrison Junior is that dude,

477
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Speaker 1: time in all right, start the clock.

478
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Speaker 4: This is a very official, serious game.

479
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Speaker 1: So if Marvin Harrison Junior is that dude, the Cardinals

480
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: will be top eight in EPA per play this year.

481
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Speaker 4: Offensively, I'm gonna put him top twelve. I'll give him

482
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Speaker 4: a little bit more of a like on ramp for that.

483
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Speaker 4: But I love, I already love what I'm hearing.

484
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Speaker 1: Do you know what they were weeks ten through eighteen

485
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: last year with Kylery like fifth, they were top ten around?

486
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: They think they were in eighth or ninth or something. Yeah,

487
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Speaker 1: second and running.

488
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Speaker 4: I think with anything, you're gonna need an on REMP.

489
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 4: You're gonna install a bunch of new things and try to,

490
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Speaker 4: like again, stay ahead of the curve. So I think

491
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Speaker 4: that's very possible.

492
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Speaker 1: I'm buying. I don't buy a lot of hype.

493
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Speaker 4: I set you up for that. I saw his hand moving.

494
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Speaker 1: I'm weirdly buying this a Jones type just that, like, oh,

495
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Speaker 1: he's a nice fourth receiving option. When you have Harrison

496
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Speaker 1: Junior and Trey McBride and Michael Wilson's probably third and

497
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Speaker 1: zee nice.

498
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Speaker 5: They're gonna run the hell out of the ball. They're

499
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Speaker 5: going to run the hell out of the ball.

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Speaker 1: That nice little group of offensive players there maybe not

501
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Speaker 1: as good as the ones here with the Rams. Let's

502
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Speaker 1: take a quick break. Then we'll come back on the

503
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Speaker 1: other side and Jordan and I are going to talk

504
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Speaker 1: about the Rams, and then we're also gonna talk to

505
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Speaker 1: Kobe Turner and Steve Avula right after this. Okay, we

506
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Speaker 1: are back with Jordan rod Rieg doing her favorite thing

507
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Speaker 1: to do in the entire world, talk about the Los

508
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Speaker 1: Angeles Rams.

509
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Speaker 5: I do see your tweets, folks.

510
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh, don't be don't be hard.

511
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 5: I talk about them too much.

512
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: Don't be hard on Jordan.

513
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Speaker 5: Uh, she's team that I cover.

514
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Speaker 1: She's usually gonna be covering the whole league. And yes,

515
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: we're here at the RAMS practice because we live in

516
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. It's twenty minutes from work, and it is

517
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Speaker 1: great to come out to the practice. And I like

518
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: that these first these couple of weeks of camp is

519
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: a different vibe of NFL daily because we're not going

520
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: to be out in the field at all moving on.

521
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: But it is cool to see live football and this

522
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: was a perfect practice to be at. It was very competitive.

523
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: A lot of sessions with a certain amount of time

524
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Speaker 1: is on the clock, they have to go down the field.

525
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Speaker 1: Rob Havenstein, I guess was the biggest. You know, just

526
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Speaker 1: a little item of news. He had an injury appeared

527
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: to be a foot or an ankle injury, Yeah, and

528
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: had to leave the field. So it's been a lot

529
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Speaker 1: of injuries for the Rams. This training came.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're currently without by the way, welcome. Doesn't the

531
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Speaker 4: grass smell good? Yeah, it's incredible. I will be in

532
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 4: many fields over the course of this year, and this

533
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 4: is my happy place. So I am so happy that

534
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 4: you guys are here today, that we're bringing the listener

535
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Speaker 4: in as well. Yeah, they're missing three offensive linemen right now,

536
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 4: three starters. They invested millions upon millions, including in that

537
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 4: interior line.

538
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Speaker 5: Each guard a three year deal.

539
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 4: We have some great background sound as well, some excitement,

540
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 4: some great excitement behind us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

542
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Speaker 4: They extended the the right guard, Kevin Dotson, three years,

543
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Speaker 4: three year, forty eight million. They also paid Jonah Jackson

544
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Speaker 4: three years fifty one million, and he's injured. He's got

545
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Speaker 4: a shoulder injury. He's weak to week. Left tackle Aleric

546
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Speaker 4: Jackson is not playing right now. He has an ankle sprained.

547
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Speaker 4: I asked Sean McVay when we can expect to see

548
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Speaker 4: Aleric back, and he seems optimistic that he'll be back

549
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 4: by the char the Chargers scrimmage in a couple of days.

550
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Speaker 4: Rob Havenstegin though that that one's a little bit scary.

551
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 4: The foot injury. You know, he is there stalwart on

552
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: the offensive line. He's the veteran, he's a team captain.

553
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Speaker 4: I don't like seeing, you know what I'm seeing from

554
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 4: the backups right now. There was a lot of pressure

555
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 4: on those backups today. A lot of run plays that

556
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 4: got blown up. I'm not confident in that backup group

557
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 4: right now, but getting those guys back, it does seem

558
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Speaker 4: like Sean believe they're going to get them back at

559
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Speaker 4: some point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that would be a massive injury. It's

561
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Speaker 1: so crazy to think about the rams and I think

562
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: just like going big picture, not just about what we

563
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: saw today. Although the offense got plenty of wins, you

564
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: might say you didn't like what they you saw and

565
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: there was a lot of pressure on Matthew Stafford. But

566
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Speaker 1: let's just say that they looked a lot better than

567
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Speaker 1: the Charters offense on Monday that I was witnessing, like

568
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: Puko is making play after play, Cooper Cup was open

569
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Speaker 1: all day. Matthew Stafford is getting a lot of hoots

570
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: from his teammates because he's you know, dodging defenders and

571
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: making people miss and throwing spin moves out and doing

572
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford things. So the offense look pretty good on balance,

573
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Speaker 1: But it is crazy to think the way this Rams

574
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: team has evolved since you've started covering them that now

575
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: the offensive line is just a huge part of their identity.

576
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: How nasty they are, and they kind of need that.

577
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: They need that group to be great to do what

578
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Speaker 1: they want to do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Matthew Stafford staying upright is literally the key to

580
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 4: this season going the way that the Rams wanted to go.

581
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 4: They have extremely high hopes and high aspirations for themselves.

582
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 4: It's whispered about in this building here and there about

583
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Speaker 4: what they believe they're potentially capable of doing.

584
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Speaker 5: And they had a lot.

585
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Speaker 4: Of momentum, sorry, momentum going into the end of last

586
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 4: season before that Detroit Lions loss, and this this offensive

587
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 4: line is was planning on moving people, on running whatever

588
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 4: the heck run concept they want it to run, not

589
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 4: staying in a world of mid zone and outside zone,

590
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 4: which you know, not stretching the field wide, going right

591
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 4: at your face if they needed to, and also protecting

592
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 4: matt Stafford entering his sixteenth season. They got the Stafford

593
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: deal done and he's out here dealing. This was his

594
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: best day so far. Now, granted, the first two days

595
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: he was out here and the first two pads days

596
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 4: it was a very run heavy installation day, so less juice,

597
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 4: less energy. I thought they looked flat on Tuesday, and

598
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: then they came out here. Someone said something to someone

599
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 4: because they came out here and Matthew Stafford played what

600
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Speaker 4: I politely call his very particular brand of fu football,

601
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: and guys are getting open for him and he can

602
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 4: still sling it around.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome to watch, just like that high.

604
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 5: It doesn't get old. He can throw that high.

605
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Speaker 1: Level of skill between him Pooka and now that Cooper

606
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Speaker 1: Cup is looking like Cooper Cup. That feels like one

607
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: of the big takeaways from camp. Just you know, cross

608
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: your fingers. But he just I'm guessing at no point

609
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: last year he certainly didn't ever on the field in

610
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: a regular game ever, really look like the guy that

611
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: we've seen dominate the league. Maybe he hasn't quite looked

612
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: like that for a couple of years, but he looks

613
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Speaker 1: different this year.

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Speaker 4: You're saying, yeah, one day, Cooper Cup looked like Cooper

615
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: Cup last year. And it was the first joint practice

616
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 4: between the Rams and the Denver Broncos in Denver. And

617
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 4: then he heard his hamstring again, and so that one

618
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 4: day is now carrying over and over and over and over.

619
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Speaker 4: He looks like that. It's it's you know, he's crossing

620
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 4: thirties past thirty this this season. When the season starts,

621
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Speaker 4: we know about the injury history, we know at what

622
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: point receivers start to drop off. But when I watched

623
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Speaker 4: these practices, this is the best time a year for

624
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Speaker 4: me because we get to be right on the sideline

625
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Speaker 4: up close.

626
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Speaker 5: Obviously I didn't even know where you were.

627
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Speaker 1: Where's George?

628
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 5: He lost me multiple times.

629
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Speaker 4: I was over in the back corner of the end

630
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: zone when they were working, when they were working on

631
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Speaker 4: red zone, I was watching Cooper literally in his cut split,

632
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: moving an inch to the right because that movement, you know,

633
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 4: resetting it and making sure he was right on the

634
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: detail of the space he needed to be on pre snap.

635
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 4: And then that play ended up springing DeMarcus Robinson loose

636
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 4: for a big catch in the end zone. And it's

637
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: just those little tiny details. But then also he like

638
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 4: broad step against Quentin Lake. It almost was like a

639
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: heavy but it wasn't. But it was like almost like

640
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 4: that at the beginning of his route in order to

641
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: catch that you know, that high flying leap that he

642
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: made in the back of the end zone. And you

643
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: didn't see him pushing his body like this last year

644
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 4: when I saw him take those strides the way that

645
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: he did in that one particular play, you just never

646
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: saw that last year. He was so worried about his body,

647
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 4: and for good reason, because it just wasn't right last year.

648
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: Yet he skied for what would have been a touchdown,

649
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: but he only got one foot down. But I think

650
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: I got I was like the only play I recorded.

651
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: I fanned out, I guess, and recorded one play the

652
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Speaker 1: whole practice and that was it. So I got some

653
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: ig heat coming.

654
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Speaker 4: Maybe I hope it luck because dart to the neck.

655
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: These guys don't let you report or record scheme. I'm

656
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 4: going to give you a lot of scheme.

657
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: It's just him jumping in the end zone or whatever.

658
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: But he also had another play where Stafford was scrambling around,

659
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: and like I said, Stafford looked very mobile today. And

660
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: he comes back to the ball on, you know, to

661
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: get it close to the end zone. That to me,

662
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: that was just such a Cooper Cup and Stafford no

663
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: each other is doing. But then you also have for

664
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Speaker 1: the first time healthy Gooper Cup next to the best

665
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: receiver on the team. I'm just going to assume Pooka

666
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: Akua is the best receiver on the team. He looks

667
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: extremely quick. Everything's going to him, and those two together

668
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: that special. Let's talk about the defense before we go,

669
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Speaker 1: because it is it's such a weird thing to expect

670
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: a defense that loses Aaron Donald to get better, or

671
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: that loses Raheem Morris to get better. But it is

672
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: kind of year two of this rebuild with the defense,

673
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: and there are some reasons, i think to believe that

674
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Speaker 1: they can be at least where they were last year

675
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: or maybe better. Like what stood out to you from

676
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: the defense sos far well, the.

677
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: Defense has been feeling themselves a little bit through the

678
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 4: first part of camp, particularly when the pads got on.

679
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 5: They've been making plays.

680
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: They've been getting into the backfield on a lot of

681
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 4: these run plays Byron Young was really active today, both

682
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: you know, in the pass rush, but then also he

683
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: was getting out into the flat on some of those

684
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: little underneath plays and some of those checkdowns to Kyroen

685
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 4: Waban he.

686
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: Took out Blake Korum mean, actually, we saw a nice

687
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: moment here by the set as Blake was leaving the

688
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: field and he he came over young came over to

689
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: him and it was just apologizing PROFUSI like, I would

690
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: never mean to do that, man, and I didn't do

691
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: that on purpose, and Blake was kind of like, yeah, okay, man,

692
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: but this was still yeah.

693
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 4: The Byron has a good saying. They got it from

694
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: a team meeting where you're not gonna make it. You

695
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 4: don't have any enemies on your own sideline, and so

696
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 4: it's basically reminding them. Because the defense came out so

697
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 4: fired up the last couple of days, there were some

698
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 4: moments where you thought, oh, could this boil over. It's

699
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 4: a young group. It's a lot of new guys mixing

700
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: with guys who are now in their second year, their

701
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 4: third year, and then a couple of vets, especially on

702
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 4: the back end.

703
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 5: I think Trey White looks great.

704
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 4: Some of the plays today that Matthew Stafford made against him.

705
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 4: Only two quarterbacks maybe in the league could fit the

706
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 4: ball where they fit it. The other being Pat Mahomes

707
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 4: when Cooper cup was was kind of in that he

708
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: was doubled back there in that back corner and then

709
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 4: Trey let another one go through. But it was it

710
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: was in basically, there's nothing you could do about it. It

711
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 4: was one of those where you just shrug your shoulders

712
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 4: and the and the DB's coach comes over and congratulates

713
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 4: Cooper because there's nothing you can do about it. And so,

714
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 4: but I think Trey White looks really good. They obviously

715
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: miss Darius Williams had the had the hamstring issue. They

716
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 4: do expect him to be back at some point as well.

717
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, this this is a really scrappy young defense.

718
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 4: They're fired up about life. It's kind of energizing to

719
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 4: be to be out here listening to them talk to

720
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: each other. Braden Fisk does not look like a second

721
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 4: round pick at all to me so far. His hands

722
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 4: are good, his feet are great. When the pads came on,

723
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: he validated all of those better so far. It's different positions,

724
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 4: you know, so I think they've been you know, you

725
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 4: know me, I don't like comps, right like I don't

726
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 4: like rankings or comps, And it's different so obviously for

727
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 4: the listener, Jared versus playing.

728
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: Where I am? You know, just a bunch of ranthing.

729
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: Jared versys to calm down a little bit, though he

730
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: ran right through Stafford hit him fairly hard today.

731
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got to pull it back.

732
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: That was just the dicey moment. Stafford got out, just

733
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: not looking old or anything, but looking like he just

734
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: got run over by a two hundred and seventy pound guy.

735
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: And I'm just that's what a first round pick looks like.

736
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: Right, But also just like that, you do not want

737
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: to do that. It could have gone very poorly. I'm

738
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: worried about the defensive coordinator change, but talent wise, I'm

739
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: with you. I kept my eyes on Trey White, who

740
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: just was not healthy at all the last two years

741
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: in Buffalo and could be a big difference maker. And

742
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: then Cam Curl was a big addition at safety coming

743
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: off a really good season with Washington. Good player and

744
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: the two point conversion that the Rams tried today and

745
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: was unsuccessful. If I was reading the play right, and

746
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: I think I was, Curl really took away where Stafford

747
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: wanted to go on that play and it was unsuccessful

748
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: and the defense went absolutely crazy, and Sean McVay was

749
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: not happy about, you know, the offense not getting it,

750
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: but that was like what a heady older safety is

751
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: going to do. So that's interesting what you said about

752
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: the whispering in the building of what they think they

753
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: can accomplish. I mean, I guess we can guess, Hugh

754
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: je expect to win a Super Bowl. They think they

755
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: can do that.

756
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 4: This team thinks that if they can stay healthy, that's

757
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 4: being the key, and we're going to go to if

758
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 4: then my if then for the Rams, if they can

759
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 4: keep Matthew Stafford healthy, then this team believes that they

760
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 4: are Super Bowl contenders.

761
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: M I believe it. Why not in this NFC they

762
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: look like it. At the end of last year they

763
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: had a chance, and yeah, it's no fun losing Donald,

764
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: But I think for the most part, this is a

765
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: really young team with a couple key older guys sprinkled in,

766
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: but for the most part, it's one of the youngest

767
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: teams in the league. That's our RAMS talk. But we're

768
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: not done with Rams talk. We are going to hear

769
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: from Kobe Turner, the conductor and Steve Avula, one of

770
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: the best young offensive linemen in the league. Left handed

771
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: who just happened to be best friends are good friends.

772
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm saying best friends, but that

773
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: they're friends. You can as it was fun sitting down

774
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: with them. Let's take a lesson. That's good. You gave

775
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: us our sound check for us. I love it all right,

776
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: let's get going. Oh, sure, there you go.

777
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 6: Wait did you hear the sound of that? That sounded

778
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 6: like the start of a dreams by?

779
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 5: Uh?

780
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: He wouldn't.

781
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: Let's just start the interview that way. We're keeping this

782
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: out here with Kobe Turner and Steve Ovula.

783
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: There we go.

784
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: Right, you're a star. You're not if it was your

785
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: rookie year, but you're the center. You had a great

786
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: rookie season. And before we even started talking, you come

787
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: over to me and you're like, oh, Erica said, you're

788
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: the little one.

789
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: Yes, you know. I told her.

790
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: She was like, yeah, just say it.

791
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 7: I'm like, dude, I don't want like, am I gonna offense?

792
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 7: I don't want to anybody. You gotta let me know

793
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 7: what the inside joke.

794
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: There's not an inside joke. She made that up, but

795
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: just no, that's Erica. But she's right. I'm standing sitting

796
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: next to two large humans who has great rookie seasons

797
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: and from what I can tell, our good buddies. Kobe

798
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: Turner gave out, what just because the rookie class, you

799
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: guys bonded.

800
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it kind of start. I mean we

801
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 7: have our lockers are right next to each other there.

802
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 7: But I mean off Rip, I mean I just knew

803
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 7: I could feel, you know, just the energy that he brings.

804
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 7: I feel like we're kind of like each other in

805
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 7: a lot of ways. So I mean it also helps,

806
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 7: you know, going against each other every day. But I

807
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 7: mean the whole rooky class last year, I mean we

808
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 7: were bonding over the things we were going through, just

809
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 7: you know, with adjusting to a lot of things, just

810
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 7: the coaching staff adjusting two different experiences.

811
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Speaker 2: So it was cool.

812
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: I like how you wanted to kind of interview voice

813
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: there because you were like so live and so I

814
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: was very professional now in a good way, in a way.

815
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: I liked you came over and that's what I was

816
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: talking about, Kobe. You seemed really excited, so for everyone listening.

817
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: Kobe Turner, of course, one of the defensive Rookie of

818
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: the Year candidates last year, the conductor my friend JB.

819
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: Long nicknamed you I Belie, and you were really excited

820
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: because today was your first day. I think back out

821
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: at practice, how did that go? How did your your

822
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: matchups go?

823
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: Here?

824
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: It was so much fun.

825
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 6: Like I'm not somebody who takes for granted things, but

826
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 6: I mean every step of the way, I would be

827
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 6: dressed up for walkthrough and it's everybody else's down day.

828
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 6: It's like third day, and I'm like, oooh, I'm out

829
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 6: there with the ones today even though it's chogged through,

830
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 6: or oh I get to put on my pads and

831
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 6: I haven't put on my pads yet, but everybody else

832
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 6: has been practicing, and then today to be able to

833
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 6: put it all together. You know, I'm still not getting

834
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 6: the full snap count yet, but that'll be picking up

835
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 6: in the next couple of days. But it's just such

836
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 6: a blessing to be back out here with the guys.

837
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: And you guys seem competitive because you were saying, Steve,

838
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: like you guys on the offense needed to bring the

839
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: energy a little bit more, which I'm surprised having watched

840
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: the defense got their wins early but the offense got

841
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: their wins late.

842
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's something that Sean emphasizes

843
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 7: a lot. There's a lot of acronyms that he uses,

844
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 7: but I know one of them has to do with energy,

845
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 7: and I did feel like the defense brought it today.

846
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 7: But you know, that's something that we definitely need to

847
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 7: work on because I feel I mean, it's a long season,

848
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 7: you know, so we definitely needed through the games.

849
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: But I feel like overall it was a good practice.

850
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 7: It was also it was nice having him back out there,

851
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 7: so that's another person to get me better.

852
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's really good to be able to go

853
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 3: back and forth.

854
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 6: I mean, that's the sign of a good team, in

855
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 6: my opinion, is that no one day dominates the entire day.

856
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 6: It's about how you respond and whether that be play

857
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 6: the play basis, uh, series of series basis, and so

858
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 6: to be able to go out there and see the

859
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 6: back and forth, uh, that leads to bigger energy on

860
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 6: both sides, right, because it's an actual competition.

861
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 7: It's not just one side dog walking the other. The

862
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 7: entire I feel, I mean that similates a game. I mean,

863
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 7: we've been in a lot of different instances. I feel

864
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 7: like this past year, like when we were playing the Colts,

865
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 7: bro like we were up by so much and then

866
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 7: towards the end it was.

867
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Speaker 2: Like, oh my gosh. The same thing with the.

868
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 7: Ro the same thing with the commanders.

869
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: That it seemed like Robert when when the defense broke

870
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: up at two point play at practice today, like Sean

871
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: McVay almost sounded like he was talking trash to the defense,

872
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: almost that he was upset. Does that annoy you as

873
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: a defensive player that like he doesn't seem to be

874
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: rooting for y'all.

875
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, not at all.

876
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 6: Like Sean is, he's a head coach, so you know,

877
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 6: whichever way the day goes, he wins.

878
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: You know, his.

879
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: Office and defense.

880
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 6: But it's good because I'm pretty sure he's a play caller, right,

881
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 6: So it's good to have that like little competition. And

882
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 6: even with the head coach would be like I knew

883
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 6: that one was coming. Or sometimes we'll be talking on

884
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 6: the sideline and I'll call out his plays or something

885
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 6: like that, and.

886
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: I'll be like, Okay, I was thinking about the identity

887
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: of this team that you guys have. Because you have

888
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: you're such a young team. You guys are great representatives

889
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: of that too. Kind of I think of now Core Rams,

890
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: young starters, but you also have obviously the veterans like

891
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. You have Tredevius White now coming in, but

892
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: you no longer have Aaron Donald here, Like, how do

893
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: you see the identity of this Rams team now that

894
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: now that the younger guys have some some miles.

895
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 7: Under Yeah, I mean I feel like me and him

896
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 7: definitely had a lot of talks this offseason just with

897
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 7: the understanding and realization of those people are leaving, you know,

898
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 7: I mean this is our second year. Uh, you know,

899
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 7: I've set this for myself as well. I mean, you know,

900
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 7: you have to be a leader. I feel like a

901
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 7: lot of the reason why we had success last year

902
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 7: is because the coaches trusted us, and I feel like

903
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 7: the coaches me being moved to center was also another

904
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 7: indicated that the coaches trust me. So I feel like

905
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 7: that will put me more in a leadership role. Overall,

906
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 7: I feel like I'd have to earn that, you know,

907
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 7: respect for my teammates. And I'm sure the same thing

908
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 7: you know for you with ad departying and stuff.

909
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like a it's an everyday quest to just

910
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 6: keep getting better and better and better and to keep

911
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 6: bringing people to what I know and what I've experienced,

912
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 6: and I haven't experienced much of anything, Like I'm only

913
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 6: a rookie, but to keep bringing people along and keep

914
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 6: only a rookie until we get some games under our

915
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 6: belt this season. But to just keep bringing those guys

916
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 6: along and you know, hoping that the work ethic that

917
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 6: I exemplify, my process is something that's worth following. But

918
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 6: we have so many great leaders on this team, and

919
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 6: even just thinking defensively like a d left. But at

920
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 6: the same time, you have guys like Ernest Jones, who's

921
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 6: just like the heart of the defense, the true heart

922
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 6: and soul of the defense, and that makes it easier

923
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 6: also to lead my respective group up under, you know,

924
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 6: and and learning and kind of uh using his leadership

925
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 6: also as as fuel for that as well. And then

926
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 6: you got got guys like Tradevius White who comes in

927
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 6: and he's just a natural leader.

928
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: He's only been here, you know since the.

929
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: Spring, but he was talking like the photographer on the side.

930
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 6: He might be playing around, I don't know, but yeah,

931
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 6: we have a lot of good guys and a lot

932
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 6: of just strong character, uh a strong leadership guys, and

933
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 6: you know, we're all building this up together. Now everybody

934
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 6: has a piece of the puzzle and we're all putting

935
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 6: it together.

936
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 2: I feel like one thing, and I'm sorry, I don't

937
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: mean that.

938
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: It's good.

939
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 7: I feel like one thing for us last year is

940
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 7: just the relationships that we had. You know, when you

941
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 7: have siblings, man, you'll fight all the time. And that's

942
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 7: how I kind of try to approach practice. Like there

943
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 7: was talking, just talking all the time, like on the field,

944
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 7: and I tried my best not to take it to

945
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 7: heart because at the end of the day, you know,

946
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 7: we're on the field, you know, leave everything on the field.

947
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, man, like we're

948
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 7: all like teammates, you know, we're all brothers, and that's

949
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 7: you know, how we how we treat each other. So

950
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 7: we haven't had any thing go on in the locker room,

951
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 7: and I feel like everything has been focused on trying

952
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 7: to win games and trying to do it with the

953
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 7: person next to you.

954
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: Is there something you learn from Aaron specifically just being

955
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: next to him. It must have been. I don't know

956
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: if it was intimidating at first, just coming into the league,

957
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: and you I know it's different with Rob Havnstein, but

958
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: I think of they were both on the Saint Louis Rams. Yeah,

959
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: and now they're here. They've obviously won a Super Bowl.

960
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: You guys had that success that you had last year, Like,

961
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: what was it like and was there something you took

962
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: from being next to those guys?

963
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 6: So first of all, it was a little intimidating to start, Like,

964
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 6: I don't think I was looking him in the eyes

965
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 6: in the huddle till like week seven, maybe like after

966
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 6: I started making a couple of plays or something like that.

967
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 6: But no, I think the thing that I appreciated the

968
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 6: most about him was his process. And he was a

969
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 6: man of like few words, but when he said something,

970
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 6: he meant it. But to be able to have the

971
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 6: impact that he had where people were following him just

972
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 6: strictly off of this is the work that I'm putting in.

973
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 6: You guys see what I'm putting in, and if it's

974
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 6: worthy of being followed, then you guys are going to

975
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 6: follow me. And that's something that I kind of try

976
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 6: to model the way in as well. If my process

977
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 6: is worthy of being followed, then it doesn't matter what

978
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 6: words I say, and obviously I can you know, my

979
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 6: personality lends itself a little bit more vocal leadership, but regardless,

980
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 6: like my if my example is worthy of being followed,

981
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 6: then people will.

982
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

983
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 7: And for Rob, I mean I feel like it's a

984
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 7: lot of the same thing. I mean they've been through

985
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 7: a lot, man, you know, when you're part of a

986
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 7: team for that long, you know, you go through ups

987
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 7: and downs and you just I mean he's learned from

988
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 7: people too. I mean Wit was on the team, so

989
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 7: that's some knowledge from Wit that Rob you know, eventually,

990
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 7: you know, passes down to us.

991
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: But that was one of the.

992
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 7: First people, you know, he has. He was actually one

993
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 7: of the first people to text me when I got drafted.

994
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 7: I remember that. But you know, I've always tried to

995
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 7: learn under him. I remember one of the best things

996
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 7: he told me. I was so nervous before this first game.

997
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 7: He was like, you know, the difference between college and

998
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 7: the NFL. And he was I was like what, and

999
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 7: he was like nothing, you know, it's football and it's

1000
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 7: so simple. But like to know that he could, you know,

1001
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 7: give me that advice. You know, it really called me

1002
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 7: for that game. And there's a lot of different stuff

1003
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 7: that he tells me, you know, during practice, during the

1004
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 7: meeting time, in the you know, weight room everything.

1005
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: You know.

1006
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 2: I'm just glad that I have someone.

1007
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: Like him, who's someone you I like going against. That's

1008
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: a good challenge, not on this team necessarily like on

1009
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: another team. Yeah that you played against that, I'm not

1010
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: saying they gave you the business, but a good battle

1011
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: back and forth. And it was same for you too.

1012
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 7: Uh for me, there's okay, people ask me who's the

1013
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 7: best person I go against. I feel like I kind

1014
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 7: of categorize defenses, you know, and I know that uh

1015
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 7: Dallas was was a good matchup for all of us.

1016
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1017
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 7: I've learned a lot about myself, you know that game.

1018
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 7: But I will say, you know, Jonathan Allen had this

1019
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 7: one move that he does on offensive lineman I have

1020
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 7: never seen in my life, you know. Yeah, and like

1021
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 7: I have, I've seen it, I've never gone against it.

1022
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: So it took me. It was a process, you know,

1023
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:23,959
Speaker 2: in the game.

1024
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 7: And I feel like Sean talks about having a growth mindset,

1025
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 7: and you know, that's what I have to have during

1026
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 7: that game to make adjustments, you know, to figure out

1027
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 7: what to do against that move.

1028
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 2: You know.

1029
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 7: But I feel like that was one of the h

1030
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 7: That was a good game and it definitely, you know,

1031
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 7: boosted my confidence to know that I can lock in

1032
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 7: you know, mid game and and and try to establish

1033
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 7: myself to figure out what I'm gonna do.

1034
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: He's nasty, who's an offensive lineman, Kobe that that's tough.

1035
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: So other than other than your body.

1036
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 6: Here right aside from our team, Uh, we faced a

1037
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 6: good couple. But I think some of the best battles

1038
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 6: that I've had have been against.

1039
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 3: Is it Chris Lindenbaum from the Ravens the center?

1040
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 2: Yeahland Yeah, Yeah.

1041
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 6: That was one of the games where I look back

1042
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 6: and I'm like, that was just like good work, and

1043
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 6: I know he's a respectable center in this league, and

1044
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 6: I felt like there's a good back and forth. And

1045
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 6: then I'm excited for Week one too, uh to be

1046
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 6: able to go back and see Frank rag now again.

1047
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 6: You know, of course one of the top old linemen

1048
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 6: in the league, one of the top centers, and you know,

1049
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 6: there's just certain things going into that game where it's

1050
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 6: like you gotta gotta lock in. See this he blocks

1051
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 6: a different way and picked up some wins and and

1052
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 6: took some losses.

1053
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: But it was a really good battle. So looking forward

1054
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 3: to that as well.

1055
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: Last thing I'll leave you with, My daughter, Ellis is

1056
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: a huge RAMS fan.

1057
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 7: Okay, are you help me on the spot?

1058
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: That's my girl. So I'm rooting for her happiness. But

1059
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: I grew up in Massachusetts and now you know, I

1060
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: got this, I got this logo on, so I'm not

1061
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: supposed to be rooting. But of course I want my

1062
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: daughter to be happy. So they gave her a moment

1063
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl that I'll never forget. It came

1064
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: out of her eyes. So so can you can you

1065
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: give her some optimism about these twenty twenty four Rams

1066
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: that you're gonna You're gonna speak to her and give

1067
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: her some great man.

1068
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: Yes, well, I feel like a couple of things you'll

1069
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: get out of us. You know. One, you're rooting for

1070
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: some great guys. That's number one. You're rooting for some

1071
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 2: great guys.

1072
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 7: And two, you're rooting for some guys that are gonna

1073
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 7: give it all every play, Okay, yeah.

1074
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that the work that we put in is

1075
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 6: something that's every day, you know, growing and going in

1076
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 6: the right trajectory. And at the end of the day,

1077
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 6: we all realize that we are one team, and we

1078
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 6: are one unit and We truly are our brotherhood in

1079
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 6: more ways than just words and uh and more than

1080
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 6: just cliches. And so when when you see us out

1081
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 6: there during the season, it's gonna be twenty two playing

1082
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 6: is one this entire time.

1083
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: She's twelve.

1084
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 7: She can understand it, right, Like, I don't know why

1085
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 7: I was thinking like time, I'm like, she's over here

1086
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 7: running the book.

1087
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Speaker 2: They call them.

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Speaker 1: I can see that. I know you got the vocal

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Speaker 1: range and you might have like a career in politics

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Speaker 1: with that voice. All right, that's Kobe Turner and then

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Speaker 1: Steve Avula, second year players of the Los Angeles Rams. Okay,

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Speaker 1: wrapping the show up here. That was a fun one.

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Speaker 1: That was a lot. We got a game, we got injuries,

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Speaker 1: we played a game, We got the Rams. Kobe Turner

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Speaker 1: and Steve Ovula were great, and we appreciate everyone that

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a little bit of a mailbag episode

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Speaker 1: We are gonna be back on Monday morning. First thing

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Speaker 1: in your podcast feed, Nick, Chuck and I are going

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Speaker 1: to go through the entire AFC and we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: the same for the NFC the following day with Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Really get you caught up on all the camp takeaways,

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Speaker 1: the nuggets. It is really picking up now until then,

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